Phantom 85 V3 4K HIGH FR60
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- Опубліковано 23 сер 2024
- Check out what the difference is between Phantom V2 and the V3. Motorlife - Alex Nave gives his opinion and what his thoughts are on the V3!
One of the most powerful motors right out of the box! Keep an eye out for more videos to come on the V3.
Leave a comment on what you are working on and if you have a V3 engine and what you like about it.
If you don't have a ZTMoto Phantom 85 V3 and want one here is the link to where to go.
bicycle-engines.com/ztmoto-phantom-85-v3-complete-52mm-bore-2-stroke-motorized-bicycle-engine-kit-true-85cc-bike-motor/
3rd time's the charm. also from illinios here. just bought the kit and about 200$ worth of extras to minimize future maintainance. hope to see more from ya in the future my guy
If you have any issues please feel free to reach out to us here at Bicycle-engines.com and we are happy to help.
What extras did you buy? Am planning to buy this kit and minimize future maintenance as well
@@777goncharovv extra clutch pads, tires, tubes, a hub adapter sprocket set and I got the flex pipe and had a buddy weld it up to fit the phantom. If ya do one of these be sure to used JB weld on the hub and the adapter and in all honesty it’s better to just use the exhaust pipe that comes with the kit.
Sorry Guy, not a YD100 bottom end, check with Bicycle-Engines. Even the rod on YD100 is stamped YD100, and 10mm pin. Rod on 85 is stamped ZMN100 with needle bearing takes 12mm pin (Stihl 460 pin).😇 Talk to Kayla, yeah,
The bottom end is the samé, online thing is the rod, not the crank
I broke down and bought vrs 3, my 2nd vrs is in attic, hope this vrs 3 pans out, but from what I've seen on you tube, from other riders, looks like they finally got it right, but I'm still waiting on my F Zero to put it on, update ya later!
I what to the BBR v2 for next year !
Wow, 1 out of 5 phantoms are still working.
We have not heard of any issues on the V3 so your assessment of 1 out of 5 is incorrect. The only issue that has happened are the ones that do not do a proper break-in procedure. That is very important for the life of any motor.
@@BicycleEngines
I'm merely repeating what your assessments were in the video.
1 out of 5 🤣
Awesome I want one
Phantom 85 v3 ❤️❤️❤️💪🇺🇲❤️❤️
What does a proper break-in procedure include in its entirety??
For the Zeda 100 Max it is same break-in procedure as the regular Zeda 100. here is the link.
www.bicycle-engines.com/product_images/uploaded_images/FireStorm-PK80-Installation.pdf
What kind of seat is that?
Im a couple days away from starting my first build. My first engine kit is the zeda 100 max. I dont hear anyone address this concern, so my question is about engine life/longevity.
If properly maintained and operated, what kind of service life can i expect out of a 2 stroke bike engine??
We can never give a exact time frame on how long a motor will last. However, I do know a few of the guys that are on our Motorized bicycle group on FB that have a V1 Phantom that first came out and and still running strong after all these years. My guess if you maintain and treat it right it can last you years. Good luck on your build.
What top down camera are you using?
Still running ?
Ok it's been a couple months now,, is it still running???
🤣
Man I have been really critical over the beta testing that has been done using unwilling customers for V1 & V2, and I stand where I believe it was a quick cash grab that took advantage of our desire to get something with good performance at a value. Trying to build up something that runs this strong out of the box is going to cost us a lot more than actually purchasing one of these ready to rock and roll. However... I am willing to admit, they have been extremely quick to release the next version of the phantom with actual updates that should eliminate or decrease the issue which was causing failure. I don't know the details of warranty work for any of the poor guys who dumped a chunk of change into a full kit one of these, they probably got zero, but I don't communicate with anyone that may have been through the process. If they were totally honorable, they would send a cylinder with needle bearings or whatever has brought them to this point. Yeah it would be a tough position for Phantom, but they are the one's that released the not ready engines to start with!! The customer should be the one protected and if they know anything about retailing they would know that people are ten times more likely to complain about something they see as a negative than a positive. Replacing cylinders for customers that could verify the v1 or V2 purchase who reported a failure would go hundreds of miles in the right direction of the company. I'm not as plugged in to the details of all this issue and what people's experiences have been in totality, but I just get irritated beyond belief when I hear about people losing money on something that was obviously poorly executed.
Really all that however to say that I am glad that phantom has had the guts to update and resell the New versions as themselves and not just disappear and come back as another company or something. I'm not even sure how many of the older kits are still going, but I've gathered the failure rates were ridiculously high. I have never used the phantom but was excited about it's release until I started hearing of the problems. Initially I was totally against trying the V3, but after consideration that they stuck it out and are still trying, I may have to get a kit and give it a try. 😂😂😂, I have been on the fence for a couple days, as I don't have money to burn. I'm building a little minerelli however for a bike I want to be a road Slayer right now and it's going to take me some time to get all the funding inline to complete what I want to do properly. I may get a V3 and mount it first before I have the engine completed. One of my goals with the build is to create a really solid chassis that can easily withstand higher MPH without a sweat. The only thing is that the engines I have are not adequate to put my frame to that test TBH. Oh well, maybe I'll do it and won't wind up feeling like a sucker 😂😂. Thankfully I do this with a lot of my purchases... It's easy to pile up parts in the shopping cart and wind up spending money you don't have to, ya know?
Thanks Alex for the honest and uplifting review. These things are good for Gas mileage, but if they aren't FUN.... What is the point.
Hello, thank you for sharing your opinion on the course of events since the initial release of our Phantom 85 engine. However, there are a few things we would like to clarify for you to give you a more well-rounded and understanding perspective as some of the information you assumed is incorrect.
Yes, there were some initial problems with the V1. It was unexpected, as we had been under the impression that they were tested and ready to go, from our manufacturing partner. Please keep in mind that the phantom 85 is the very first true 85 cc engine. The idea and design had not ever been done before; we were the first. It was in the works for years before it was ready to be produced. Now it is to be expected that some information can be lost in translation when two companies are based in different countries and speak different languages. So, the bushings were not up to par, they were disintegrating, and we did rectify that with the customers that purchased that first version and sent a replacement bushing, that was made from a stronger metal to everyone. And it worked! The upgraded Bushing fixed the issue for the V1 Phantom.
Now we did some research on the differences and benefits of a needle bearing vs. a bushing and decided that the bearing was the better option. So, the V2 came out with that specific upgrade. A few months after the V2 was release it came to our attention that SOME of the pistons had piston ring pins that were placed to wide and were snagging on the intake and exhaust ports, which were also too big. When we discovered this issue, we started working with the manufacturer immediately to get the issue fixed and that fix leads us to the release of the V3 that is currently on the market.
But until we could get them delivered to our warehouse, we had to make the best of what we had. Since not all or the pistons and cylinders were affected, we had to weed out and pull all the ones that had the defect. So, one of our customer service representatives spent days to weeks going through the remaining stock of cylinders, that we had stopped selling, and personally measured each one to make sure that the pins were not too wide and that the ports were not too big so that the likelihood of a ring snag was next to Zero. Then we used the one determined not to have the defect for warranties until we finally got the current version, the V3.
So, you see we were never beta testing anything on anyone. It was merely human/manufacturing errors that caused our journey, as the very first company with a true 85 cc engine, to be a bit rocky. Being that you say you have not purchased one or had to go through the warranty process, it is unfair and uncalled for, for you to assume that we did not do what we could to make sure our customers got what they paid for.
However, these engines do require a very specific break in process, and it must be at least 310 miles of break in procedures for the engines to be fully functional. If it happened to be found that the break in is not followed to the letter, we would have made one acceptation, sent out a replacement and told them how to fix their break in, in the beginning of the fiasco. After the news of the defect was out there for a certain time, if break in is not followed to the letter and the motor fails, it is impossible for us to tell if the failure was caused by defect or by the error/misuse of the rider. So, we must default to user error.
I hope all this information gives you a clearer understanding of how this all occurred and the fact that you are wrong to make assumptions when you don’t have the engine that you’re commenting on. It is also not right to call into question the integrity of a business when you don’t have the knowledge of the policy or even the story in its entirety.
i want one so bad......
The should have changed thd heat wings to longer and ahve rhem face with the wind on the top of jug
We'll let's see if it's actually good!??
After awhile of riding. Once it warms up where you are. And give a thought then.
Mine has done over a 1000km still running strong, retard the timing so you can sit at whatever speed you want make sure the jug is cleaned out and your good to go.
@@grantwatene2080 Well I'm very glad to hear this from all the problems that everyone seemed to have one way or another.
Acabo de adquirir uno yo pero me q costado mas que el ld100 que tenia!!!!
Enciende pero ala hora de kerer dejarlo con el acelerador se apaga es el primer tanque de gasolina use semisintetico y use 70 ml por litro de aceite!!!
Alquien que me oriente porfavor
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Do you think maybe using pieces of rubber (like old bike tire ) with the motor month would help with vibration
With the amount of power that is behind the true 85cc motor. There is vibration, especially on a bike that is hollow frame. I would think any shock absorption would help diminish it. If you do decide to try out the old rubber tire option under the mounting of the engine. Let us know if it helped or not. It may be a great hack?
@@JamesPiccone could you be more specific! Please,
@@JamesPiccone should we weld or get a mountingbracket, what would be best, not being a mechanic and all, lol
@@JamesPiccone thank you!
Yeah are you gonna send engines to the EU? Shipping is horrendous with most engines.
We do send all over. Shipping does depend on where and if there is custom fees as well.
Seems to me like you folks are trying to dethrone Bikeberry
Will it fit on a Schwinn Trailway Hybrid?
Yes it looks like it would fit.
@@BicycleEngines Thank you
This is some straight tweeker shit
Laughed so hard at this and I do not laugh much 😂😂😂😂
Your not wrong 😅
Any information on the new zeda 100 max motor kit I seen on bicycle engines website ?
There will be a video upcoming on the NEW Zeda 100 Max. Stay tuned!
I bought one and right away the stud bolts stripped out and afterwards the exhaust pipe fell apart, then the top end stud bolt stripped by this time I was ready to junk the whole thing, then I did some research and found out I could use a top end chainsaw jug because my spark plug blew out of The jug to be honest that whole build sucks, anyways I bought a new 460 for a chainsaw and the jug fit perfectly, just make sure the jug bolt holes are deep enough
My phantom is rattling around the head somewhere everything is new.
Did you reach out to our CSRs to help figure out the issue and see what they can do for you. We have not heard of this issue yet. So, please contact us. 406-586-5970
@@BicycleEngines yes I did and it's the bearing and connecting rod this is my 2nd engine and I take care of my engine
They need to give me some kind of refund or replacement parts for it or I can send it back
Not happy with bike berry either
They just need to come out with some kind of transmission to go behind that
Nah man, not enough space. I saw a Guy put a 3 speed one behind the seat tube but it was sold before I could look at it.