Unveiling Festool KSC60 Miter Saw: Is it Worth $2500?
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- Опубліковано 7 лип 2024
- In this video, we're unveiling Festool's newest product - the KSC60 miter saw. At a price of approx. $2500, is this machine really worth the investment?
If you're in the market for a new miter saw, then you're in for a treat! In this overview video, we'll take you through all of the features of the Festool KSC60 miter saw, and teach you why it's worth the hefty price tag. Whether you're a contractor or a homeowner, the Festool KSC60 miter saw is a valuable tool you won't want to miss! - Навчання та стиль
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Being on the back end of my career, no not worth it. 15 years ago, I would have JUMPED at it. My Kapex in the shop does everything i need it to and MORE and have found that all my Festools were worth the investment as a professional cabinetmaker and millwork specialist. Pay once, cry once. Great overview!
Agreed! Festool has (almost) everything figured out. You’re paying for the superior engineering, user experience, and system integration.
I owned this saw but returned it for the larger Kapex- not because I hated it, but because of my situation.
I found the dust extraction, especially with a 36mm hose, to be exceptional even better than its big brother. It’s a great saw when you’re on site and I realized that I needed the larger Kapex since I’ll be using it mainly in my garage/workshop rather than on site. I also realized that while I could swap batteries back and forth, it was better to buy it with the batteries and at that point, it made more sense to spend the extra and go with the larger one.
One day, I do plan to get the smaller Kapex, but for now, the larger one fits me better.
It’s not hard to justify the money because we all spend our money somewhere; however, a lot of us waste money but it’s in small quantities, that when tallied up, are huge sums of money. So buying a tool that will last you 10+ years, in many cases, prevents us from wasting money on things that only have a moment of satisfaction rather than years and years or satisfaction.
Amazing point! The price is made up for in increased production and less down time.
Thank goodness the Allen wrench is supplied. 🤝
That Allen wrench was $2450 of the $2500
@@TodaysCraftsmen 😂👊🏻
"Is it worth $2500?" . . . absolutely not, but if that's how you want to spend your money, peace. Enjoyed the video, thumbs up, thanks for your time
I think it’s in the eye of the beholder! To us, and our specific intended use, it is but for many folks it’s not. We have a bunch of Festool stuff but most times we opt for another brand (typically Makita,) because the cost isn’t justified for the situation.
It is not 2500 dollars. It is 999. It is worth that & better than any Chinese junk you are buying at Home Depot.
What a wonderful saw, one day I will buy a festool tool, one day. The problem is that here in Mexico they are even more expensive than they are in the United States due to taxes and import tariffs in addition to the dollar-peso exchange rate. Congratulations on your new tool.
That’s a bummer! They’re definitely worth the money IMHo
Ive been woodworking for 40 years and ive never needed fancy saws!
Dang it! You got me there.
I hope you don't use calculators or have internet... but seriously, this isn't that fancy of a saw, just really well designed.
I see the snapbacks have arrived@@AaronGeller
Only 40 years? I've been carpentering for 71.33 years and have 17 of these saws each set at a different angle to speed up the process!
We’re not worthy!
I love the festool gear that I do have but that’s a hard price tag for me. I’m not sure I’d ever get over that safety on the switch either, that really seems unnecessary but I’m sure there’s legal reasons for it. For installs though, being light and having top notch dust collection is hard to find in other saws. I’m considering getting a smaller saw for install work because as much as I love my 12” dewalt, the thing is a bear to lug around to job sites
Yup! Our 10” Makita is about 60lbs. Sick of moving it. We’re going to rip that little safety button off today 😬
Looked at this today in a suppliers in Dublin. On further research it only compounds to max of 20mm of material at 45 degress to the right.(Thats just under 13/16 inches for the US lads).
Really nice saw. Nice and light and if your fitting just floors day to day this is the one to go for but if your an all rounder I would look at something else. The one major benefit I will give festool is the warranty also covers theft once registered with festool under 30 days.
Gives peace of mind but just not for me.
Definitely not the perfect saw but good for a lot!
Thanks!
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I could not do it. I have a pretty nice set up with my Makita 12 inch dual compound slider, the Makita pony style stand and wings I made. The saw and stand.....750? But hey, if it works for you it works for you. God bless you and keep on going.
Right on!
Its a great saw. Can you cut crown molding on it like its big brother?
For sure but I’m not sure the max size.
Great segment, thank you. I have been thinking about that very same tool investment. I ended up with Makita's 8-1/2" cordless miter saw. Almost identical designs, however Makita is at half the cost with their 40 volt system.
When we priced out the 40V Makita it was the same price as the Festool for the saw and batteries.
Not true as the Makita comes with battery and charger, the Festool does not.@@TodaysCraftsmen
$1050 the Makita or $1298 for the Festool.
How did you get it at half ($650) the cost of the festool? I cant find the makita for under $1050? And how is the dust pickup on the makita? I am looking for a 8-1/2" cordless saw and would love to not be locked into festools blade options, but dust pickup is important. If you really did get your makita for $650 please share the details.
@@TodaysCraftsmenMakita with batteries is $1100 cad and Festool with batteries is $1699 near me. What do you think I should get? I don’t mind price but I gotta get a cordless one
Man... if you guus have the budget for it & its what you like & condusive to yout needs then it's 100% worth it. Hoping all is well guys, Dirty Jersey out!!
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That's a nice saw and a good fit for you guys. It's too much for me as a hobbyist woodworker, especially at my age.
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Totally makes sense! Especially for a stationary tool…ours is mobile for installs so we wanted something a little more nuanced.
If I were doing that work as a business, yes. As a professional business I want the best tools I can get. As a hobbyist, I’d be out of my mind to spend that much fir a miter saw. That being said, my son in law has one. Nice saw!
Well said! You could buy several smaller tools for the same price and get far more benefit.
I guess I'm out of my mind but I figure if I own my Kapex ($1,600) for 15 years, then it cost me $8.88 a month. We spoil ourselves all the time, at least I can have this when my current newborn graduates high school.
Yeah, I'd spend the money if it I needed a setup like that for my work. I've got other Festool tools and they've all done as good as, or better than advertised.
They’re definitely more nuanced than other brands.
I would definitely spend the $2,500! 😂
I'm not positive.. but this comment seems biased!
Don’t feed the trolls 😂😂
I get it Jeff. Well actually I have it. Curious as to what install drills you have?
We’re running the Makita 18v sub compact
Thanks!@@TodaysCraftsmen
Anytime!
No, but I'm old and I don't earn a living by woodworking. I have often wondered if the Festool brand is as expensive in Europe as it is here. My 12" Ryobi double bevel sliding miter saw does everything I need it to do. Granted the head only tilts one direction and the dust collection is abysmal.
I’m not sure about their European pricing. My guess is that it’s similar but maybe slightly less because it’s easier logistically for them.
I can't do it. To rich for my blood. I am heavily invested into Dewalt, corded and cordless and I don't own or have ever found myself in a situation where I needed a sliding miter saw.
A lot of guys swear by that DeWalt flexvolt mitersaw.
Is this significantly quieter than other saws?
I don’t have hard data on that but it’s not very loud!
Since I'm not generating any income from woodworking, I would have a hard justifying the cost. It sure looks like a nice machine though.
Just tell your wife you got a good deal!
I realized in 2020 I was spending $125 on fast food, just a couple dollars here and there. I took that money instead and invested it into tools I could use for my hobby and fixing my home.
@@TodaysCraftsmen She's been on to my tools addiction for a while now😂
I feel your pain!
Great for tradesmen, too much for hobbyist woodworkers like me. I have lots of Festool, but Kapex is a bridge too far. Love to have it if it was gifted to me (anyone?) lol
What’s your wife’s email? We’ll drop a hint! 😝
How much is the stand because the saw itself is only $1,300 (including batteries and charger). Is the stand and any other you're running in that set up really $1,200?
The stand and wings are $1000
Yup! The stand is $1000 then you add in your tax on the whole thing.
Pricey but superior is so many ways to everything else out there.
@@TodaysCraftsmen price is what we pay, value is what we get.
Car dealerships offer cars in payments so $30k-$40k doesn’t seem like a lot. In the same way, we discount our small wasteful purchases but it’s still a lot of money after 12 months.
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It's a handsome tool, and arguably creates value for jobsite applications, but seems overkill in a shop scenario. Honestly, if I had $2.5k in the budget, I'd get a Bosch Glide (or even a Dewalt XPS) and put the balance towards a DF500, or you even get pretty close to paying for your Hammer 950. But she's pretty, that's for sure.
Definitely would be overkill in a stationary role. The UG stand is about $1200 of the $2500 price tag. You could build a nice fixed miter saw station for a couple hundred bucks with storage etc…
Nice saw, but I wouldn't spend $2500 for it.
I think you’re in the majority!
It's $1000 for the base unit and $1300 with batteries. It's not that bad especially when you consider it is something you can own for a decade or two.
2500 $ ? It’s not 2500 it’s 4999!!
🤷🏼♂️ never seen it that expensive.
@@TodaysCraftsmen USD 1295 plus tax
Not , too expensive.
It’s pricey but it sure is nice
Nope!!!
I think most people are with you! 😜
As with all of the products from Festool, that saw is way overpriced. Using it as a business write off may be worth it but for the average at home woodworker it's definitely not worth it.
I would disagree that they’re OVER priced. Definitely priced higher than most brands. If you look at other 8-8-1/2” cordless saws from Makita and Metabo they’re actually the same price. But yes, probably not a justifiable purchase for someone using it in a hobby capacity. The write off doesn’t hurt but for us the value is in the increase in speed and production as well as ease of use. Thanks for commenting!
I own the KS 120 Kapex and bought it for $1,600... I'm the "average at home woodworker" and it's definitely worth it. Why? Because you amortize it over 15 years and we are talking just a little $100 a year or $8.88 a month.
Very true!
It’s not 2500
No? Then how much is it?
@@TodaysCraftsmen$1699
On a summer deal now for $2100
4 batteries, dual charger, ctc midi and ksc 60
As mentioned in the video the $2500 price tag includes the UG stand with extensions.
@@TodaysCraftsmen my bad sorry I thought you meant the saw only
It’s a great saw
For sure!
It's half that price . What's with the USD2500 plus tax , click baiting headline ? A Bosch stand is better and USD400 .
It is a downgrade from Kapex 120 in every single way except, what, brushless motor/batteries? Kapex 120 is worth it. Everything that makes the 120 the best, is missing from this tool. I have a lot of festool. Best you can buy. For more reasons than quality. It is not outsourced big box JUNK from china made with sweat labor making china rich, for starters. But 120 is the way to go, 60 is a massive downgrade for more money. It is quieter, which is nice. It has the light like delta cruzer, which is nicer than a laser. Other than that, it has the tiny bevel gauge like cheap saws, it lacks the twist-micro-adjust on the rail, it has a smaller blade, it made the handle/safety etc worse, it is not anywhere near as good as Kapex 120 & lacks all the features that made that the best sliding chop saw.
For us, as an install saw, it’s superior to the 120 in terms of portability.
@@TodaysCraftsmen that makes sense in that use case. Still a massive downgrade; it should have all the things kapex 120 has when it is 1000 dollars more. This from someone who has the csc sys 50 on preorder, too. That said, if I needed it for mobile/site work, I would rather pay the K60 price than buy Chinese-outsourced alternatives at the big box store. It is just worth it to support True American & European companies instead of all the big box stuff outsourced from china. Glad you got it, because the purchase is more than the price, it is the principle, too.
@@bestyoutubernonegraternumber1 Definetly. The KSC 60 is actually $300 less than the 120 though...
@@TodaysCraftsmenCame back to say that. 600 less when you already have batteries. 999 is a great price. I am not sure whether to get this or the 120 now. The only major gripe I have now is that the outriggers only come in metric, no imperial option. I would get the full set + 2 extra batteries to put in my energy set if they had imperial. I am thinking I might be forced to get the full package of the 120, but I like the Ksc 60 a lot - for the shadow line & the light weight. I am having a super hard time deciding, because I would miss the “big” bevel gauge & extra capacity of the 120, they both are the same size on the mobile base when collapsed, so that is not a consideration. The 120 outriggers can come in imperial, which I prefer for woodworking. I am having a superrrrr hard time deciding.
Def a tough decision! If you have a lot of easy load-ins for jobs I say go big with the 120. We have a lot of tricky load-ins going into elevators, etc so the 60 was a better fit for us.