Can Quest 3 Compete With PC Virtual Reality in 2024? Are YOU Ready To Take It To The Next Level?
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- Опубліковано 4 січ 2024
- The Quest 3 is a GREAT headset, there's little denying that! If you have one, and love it, this video may open your eyes to a whole new way to use it! If you don't have a Quest 3 (or a Quest 2, for that matter), this might help you decide whether you should get one! And, If you LOVE PC VR as much as I do, you may have something to say about what is discussed in this video! Tell me I'm wrong if you feel I'm wrong - comment on this video, and we'll "DUKE IT OUT" (in a positive way, of course)! PC VR is a fantastic way to experience virtual reality, but is it THE BEST? Can YOU do it? Can Meta and the Quest 2 and Quest 3 compete? Or, have they already won the battle? Help us all decide!
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Comment below to be part of the discussion - I WILL respond to comments. This is a big debate among VR users! - Ігри
I upgraded from the Quest 2 to the Q3 last week. It was well worth the price. I've never tried PC VR, but you have convinced me I need to give it a try. Keep the videos coming. Your enthusiasm is refreshing.
Thank you so much, my friend! The enthusiasm is real, and my friends are probably glad I have an outlet for it here, as I talk about it ALL the time! LOL.... glad you upgraded, it is a good jump forward! And I'd love to hear how PCVR goes for you when you try it! If you have any questions, don't hesitate to comment, and I'll get back to you. Have a great rest of the weekend!
UEVR is definitely a game changer for VR in general. I can't imagine if someone was able to do this with Unity as well! 🤯
I do wish it worked on older titles (Bioshock 2 was the first title I tried until I found out it only works on UE4 and UE5), but you can't have everything! It's definitely going to be a breakout year for VR and I just hope UEVR works for Hellblade 2 when it comes out. The first one was one of the most emotionally powerful VR experiences I have ever had.
I know, right?! I went through my library most of the day yesterday, googling what games used what engines, and was bummed that BIOSHOCK was UE3... :( But, found some other nuggets, even FREE EPIC GAMES I've been collecting over the last couple years in case something like UEVR happened, and am ready to play some fun things. Playing through DELIVER US MARS right now, and enjoying it. And, I getting ready to be a SHARK in VR devouring people in MANEATER!!! Can't wait!
I have a Mac, a PS5 with PSVR2, and a Quest 3. Stacked up with games for headsets. I’m good.
You are in good shape, for sure! Love that! PSVR2 and Quest 3 - a good mix of "high-quality" VR and Mobile.... both worlds!
This is a very refreshing video. Thank you! All sorts of stuff happens in the VR industry if you follow it, and some of it has been very frustrating. There are certain UA-cam channels that seem bent on declaring PCVR dead or whatever (which is BS). But in your video, you're looking at the larger picture of how far all of it has actually come. And how great it all actually is. And I appreciate your reminder of that.
I have Quest 3 and also PCVR headsets. I enjoy Quest exclusives on the Quest 3, and I also use it when I travel. But otherwise I'm always using my PCVR headsets when I'm at home because they do PCVR better. Also do some PSVR2. But yeah, as someone who owns all of the above, I still spend most of my time in PCVR.
Thank you so much for this, and I do hope to be as positive and honestly optimistic as possible when it comes to this thing we LOVE - VR! I do hope and believe this will just keep getting bigger and bigger. Truly magical. Thanks for the comment, and keep VR-ing!
Thing is, I am 38 years old and I have been playing since Atari, since my first 486 pc, my first Pentium 100, my first Sega, Nintendo, Playstation, Xbox, and got into PC gaming. Yes, PC gaming will ALWAYS SURPASS any other device, and for the last 15 years I spent thousand of hours on Pc gaming, either playing GTA, Skyrim, Fallout, SimCity, or just oldies like Doom, Quake, Duke Nukem, or competitive League of Legends, CS, Valorant, Apex, World of Tanks, etc. Sometimes I seat at my home for 14-18 hours straight, and I cancel my other outdoors activities because I am trapped at the “daily” events and tasks that most of games ask for. That is why for the past 3 years, I gave up and quit stationary gaming. Gaming that forces to go back home, to stay at my room on a pc or xbox or playstation, I migrate to MOBILE gaming. Iphone games. Where I can play anywhere, even when I am hiking for 3-5 days on the 10000 feet mountains in Taiwan. The mobile gaming is where I can live both my gaming passion without being restricted to stay at home. I could care less about the graphics, I can still play for hours Tetris. For me, is long gone the days where graphics were the only thing holding me to a pc. Being able to play anywhere anytime , for me is what matters. That is why I got the Quest 3.
PS: but yes ! I will try the UE injector mod to try my Steam games like Skyrim / Fallout 4 /76
A great post - thank you for sharing that, and with what you said - THE QUEST 3 will be great! Especially with games you can load on the headset and don't need internet for. Can play it literally anywhere. But be careful not to EVER let direct sunlight hit those lenses - it will destroy your headset screens! You probably already know that, but good to mention. Also, for SKYRIM and FALLOUT 4, if you don't mind spending about $15 or $20 a piece during a STEAM SALE, each of them have VR NATIVE versions available! No Mod needed. They are both AMAZING in PC VR - I've spent many an hour in Skyrim, and I always play standing, that way I don't feel so lazy. LOL.... and the motion controls - keeps you moving at least. Can't wait to hear what you think of SKYRIM VR!
@@jollyjuliani did not know about the sunlight ! Thanks a lot. And I already have the Skyrim 5 final edition + Fallout 4 as well, each one of 2000 hours of play time. 🤣 will try VR soon.
Dude u just described me!! Only thing is I am 39 😂😂
Love your post, and loved the video maker!
Thanks for all the modders and devs for all what they have done so far for the community ❤
@@jollyjulian not to mention that neither of those games use UE, so that injector won't work for those games. Great on Robocop though, and I used a custom injector for Resident Evil Village from the same guy (so not UE but a different engine), and it is great as well.
Your enthusiasm is exactly what the industry needs now, excellent work, keep it up.
I am not usually one for taking sides but I believe that the naysayers that believed that VR was a fad are getting left in the dust, I too am a Pc-Vr enthusiast but do not have the most powerful system, even lower than you with a 2070-Super and still would not trade the experience for standalone, don’t get me wrong I too have tried the standalone games and I was very impressed with it, but Pc is, and will likely continue to be the best experience you can have, I have played Moss 2 on both standalone and Pc-Vr and guess who won, the fidelity on the Pc was day and night.
And don’t even get me started on the UEVR mod, I was playing Little nightmares 2 (LN-2) the other night in first person Vr (FP-Vr) and I was blown away, I cant hold in my excitement to see what others do with this mod, the sooner we have a profile repository set up the better, as not everybody will have the time to sink into sifting thru the plethora of settings in UEVR, For anybody interested in how to set up or to see LN-2 running in FP-Vr you can follow this link ua-cam.com/video/j1Mz1ae7X18/v-deo.html , FNH8iT likes to push the bounderies of whats possible here, cudos.
I Invision a day that during the development of games that Vr will be implemented as a mode, like hard mode or first to third person mode, that way all tastes will be catered for.
Thanks for sharing your energy.
I love this comment so much - your enthusiasm and passion is apparent, and I appreciate your openness to look at all sides of the VR world. I'm there with you 100%. Even with not being able to have the "best" computer, PCVR is just magical. Even with the graphics not always being as sharp as we'd like them (especially with older graphics card and such), I'll always pick the immersion of VR over the better sharper graphics. And the graphics are only going to get better as more people create for VR. And I'm having a great time trying things out with the UEVR mod - currently playing through the DELIVER US MARS experience, and really loving it! The idea that development of games include VR as a MODE with almost every game - that would be a dream come true for sure, and I can see a world where that really does happen! Keep up the passion, and hope to run into you in VR some day!
2024 will be another stellar year for us in VR! ❤🎉
I have NO doubt of that! I'm currently going through my EPIC STORE free games I've collected over past few years, and checking them to see which UE games will run! Already found a few that are running well, and are a lot of fun - especially MANEATER! Shark game, where you're the shark! I'd never played before as I wanted to play it in VR if ever possible, and now UEVR mod has made that possible!
it cant quite go toe to toe with pcvr but it is definitely headed that direction :o
It is, overall, a great time to be in VR, for sure. Quest 3 is continuing the growth of mobile VR, and it will only continue to get better and better. And, for those wanting the "BEST" possible visual experience, PC VR will hopefully continue to grow as well, and always be as cutting-edge as possible. Thanks for the comment!
People talk about Quest 3 "closing the gap" with PCVR, but it really isn't. PCVR capabilities are also advancing. So they're comparing Quest 3 against PCVR from like 7 years ago. And this gap will always be case. What we're really talking about is larger computing platforms with much higher TDP versus smaller mobile platforms with lower TDP. Mobile capabilities will always lag behind several years. The larger platform will always be more powerful at the same technology level.
Quest 3 is a marvel of a headset, probably the best mobile headset on the market but I get what you are saying. Probably a combination of both PCVR and mobile. VR/ mixed reality future looks amazing
Agreed! I'm actually very excited about what mixed reality will become - just the hints of what it can be this early make me very optimistic. I think, in many ways, MR will probably be more used on a daily basis in MANY ways than VR within the next 10 years!
Asgard's Wrath installs on your PC, not the quest 3. It would be a PC VR title.
Asgards wrath 2 is native to the quest 3
Yes, you are correct - the original Asgard's Wrath is PC only, but the sequel is Quest ONLY. Strange choice on their part, but it's true. :)
No go lie I just buy a quest 2 from watching this video I ain't know you can play pc on a vr this video getting a like n and I'm subbing to this channel
I love it! Yes, the quest 2 and quest 3 are great for wireless PC VR! If you have any questions getting setup, comment, and I'll respond! Lots of great videos out there to help with setup of PCVR as well, but I'm happy to help in any way I can! Thanks for the sub, and I'll bring you more content! And welcome to the world of PCVR!
I love this guy!
Awwwww - you make-a-me-blush! Thanks, my friend!
I switched to the Quest 3 as my daily driver for pc games. I have a 6ghz router and it with the right settings it is damn near impossible to see the difference between a wired pc headset and the Quest 3 wireless. I am intrigued by the Beyond, but their lenses don't cut it yet, so maybe next gen. The Quest 3 I can put on anybody and they have a nice sharp picture without dialing in how to wear it, and they can move their eyes around without getting weird artifacts or loss of sharpness. It's honestly a bargain for the price. (PS: 90 percent of my gaming is done wirelessly from my pc that has a 4090, so I get all the oversampling goodies haha). Tip for Quest 3 owners with a good pc: Almost all games they have published for the Oculus Rift on PC that also has a Quest version, will give you a free crossbuy, so if you buy a quest 3 game on sale, you can go to the rift version and download that for free. The only exception I found so far is Beat Saber. Another tip is to look for referral codes, it is super easy to find 25% off codes for almost any Quest game, and also quite possible with popular Rift games.
All great points here - especially the cross-buy for RIFT games! Any time I have been able to do that, I have, so I have BOTH versions! Not much of a thing anymore, sadly, as no new games being made (at the moment) for PC VR through "RIFT," but a great point, and I keep hoping Meta might pick the PCVR back up at some point to add to the value of the Quest line, as we've talked about here! Great stuff, and so glad to hear you're getting great PCVR use out of the Quest 3 as well, just as I am. Love that headset!!!
@@jollyjulian very true, but never having owned rift or the earlier quest, I've found some older treasures at least :) Yes, love the Quest 3, probably my biggest wow moment since getting the HTC Vive in the first batch of April 2016 :) I've also owned the Vive Pro Wireless, HP Reverb, Samsung Odyssey, and Pico 4, and all of those have had more incremental improvements for me, rather than a bigger jump like this.
The video quality streaming to a Quest 3 is good. And the Quest 3's lenses are great. The downside versus a PCVR headset is the latency. That's the part that you can't eliminate on Quest no matter what you do.
I would really like a device thats powered by a plug, as in no way to be played without being plugged in. because a lot of the sit down games (prison boss VR) that i play could easily be played much longer than my battery allows and i dont like to have that usb plugged in while using (quest 2) because i feel like ill ruin the port.
Just get BoboVr headstrap or similar. I have that, 3 batteries and a dock for 2 batteries. It's magnetic, so you don't even have to take your headset off when swapping. I'm not sure if it is possible to ever run it down to empty, but if it is, I certainly never managed to.
I'm there with you, LD - that was truly one of the things that kept me using my Valve Index for so long (among other things - it has been a GREAT headset). But I did the same thing @tosvus said here - I have the BOBOVR m3 headstrap, and love it! And I have two of their batteries, and rigged a third from an extra power bank I had lying around, so I can play for probably a good 7 to 8 hours at a time, if needed, just swapping out batteries. I have a video on my channel about that battery hack if you want to check it out. Quest 2 has a version of Bobovr headstrap (m2) as well - just as great!
This year will be a feast for VR in general, Meta is going all out on their own studios, and PCVR modders, we can never thank them enough.
People ask me why I have upgraded my PC after getting the Quest 3 since it is a standalone device... Well, when you have access to the works of Praydog or Team Beef (who gave us Doom and Pray VR just to name a few, Doom 3 even runs natively on the Quest), it is more than enough to put us in a jolly mood.
Amen, my friend! Agree on all points! The beauty of VR (and gaming in general) is it doesn't have to be an "all standalone," or "all PCVR" thing - we can have both, and both are wonderful to have! I love having standalone games I can take with my when traveling, or just pop in quickly if my PC is fired up, and having PCVR for the majority of my gaming for the higher-fidelity games, and the MODS! Great time to be in VR, and I hope it only continues to grow and captivate. JOLLY WE BE!
You seem like a very nice guy
Thank you so much! Very kind, and I hope so.... :)
PCVR is great and I use it a lot more since UEVR has been released, but Asgards Wrath 2 with the Quest Game Optimzer makes a compelling case against PCVR! [:]~))
Good comment - let's go! :) What I've played of Asgard's Wrath so far, it really is a great game! Closest to "AAA" as we've gotten on mobile VR, I think! A game I recommend anyone who likes fantasy and 60 - 130 hour playtime give a try for sure! So cool! I do, however, wonder how AMAZING it would look with a PC behind it for better graphics, more population, better textures, etc.? Again, not to take anything at all away from what they did on the quest 3 - it is amazing - but man, I can only imagine what it would be like on a beefy PC with a good-to-great graphics card! That said - I can't wait to get back into the game!
The way I see it, why not both? In the flat world, PC gaming exists along side smartphone gaming. They're not necessarily in conflict with each other. They serve two related but different markets. And I think we need to figure out that it's exactly the same thing with PCVR vs mobile VR for exactly the same reasons. I mean, Quest literally mounts a smartphone chipset.
@@SargonDragon Agreed, it's good to have both!
@@jollyjulian A PCVR version would be great!
I don't have a computer How would VR games using the quest 3 on a PS 5 go?
I can't justify the expense of a gaming PC
Completely get where you're coming from. Unfortunately, there's no way (currently) to connect a Quest 3 to your PS5. That would be cool, but not able. Expense of a gaming PC is totally understandable, and you could get a PSVR2 (for around $500, I believe), and try some "high-end" VR that way. Even with a middle-of-the-road PC, there may be some things you can try, especially if not some of the newer super-high end games, with the UEVR mod and such. Hope that helps!
@@jollyjulianYes there is a way to connect Quest 3 to PS5. You can look it up..
PSVR2 is a great option. I have that alongside my Quest 3 and it's a great combination. There are some truly high-end games on PSVR2, Gran Turismo, Resident Evil Village and recently RE4, No Mans Sky, Horizon, Crossfire, plus very often the best versions (certainly in terms of optimisation) of 3rd party games. There's already a huge library of games available.
I intend on purchasing a high end PC this year to give me all options, but Quest 3 and PSVR2 should not be dismissed easily as it is a fantastic combination right now. Worth looking into for sure.
I looked for the steam vr performance test and got a message saying that it's unavailable
Yes, that's what it used to be called. Link in the description for the right thing - now called "Are You Ready For Valve Index," as strange as that seems. Hope that helps!
@@jollyjulian awesome thank you
I have a new Quest 3, can I connect it to my MacBook Air M1? Ok I can see you ROFL!!
A great question, and not being a MAC person myself, I'm not sure on that one. I don't believe you can, or if you can, I don't think there are games really as available on the MAC side as of now. I could be wrong, so I'm hoping someone may comment here who is MAC primary, and has more knowledge on this one. I've been a PC guy for about 25 years now, partially because of gaming.
Thanks for your response, I really don’t want to spend up to $5K to get a high powered PC just so I can play games with PCVR, though MS Flight Simulator is compelling. I’ve loaded Sidequest on the Mac so I’m finding out what you can do with that. I reckon once Apple launches Vision Pro developers will work on VR games for the Mac, but until. the price of the VisionPro comes down substantially then we won’t see much. Cheers from Australia@@jollyjulian
In PC VR, most upgrades arent needed or relevant at all. Quest 3 is just the better overall stand alone gear and thats it. Imo not worth the upgrade, borrowed A buddys Q3 for a week, and honestly...its not that different to the Q2.
Totally can understand where you're coming from, and I do feel the "Quest 2 or Quest 3" question will be a very unique to each person question. The quest 2 is still a FANTASTIC headset, especially for the price. No question there. For me, using VR for a few hours every day, the upgrade to the Quest 3 was 100% worth it. I notice the difference in visuals quite a bit more than I thought I would when I go back and forth between the two headsets (I use my quest 2 for "fitness" things like Synth Riders and Until You Fall and Thrill of the Fight). For me, the better lenses and higher FOV are worth the price, but they are luxuries, so nothing wrong with sticking with the Q2 for sure... love it!