i watched a video somewhere here on youtube. i dont recall which one. one of those nerdy type guys babbling on about engineering stuff. you know the type. anyway, he proposed that tires were the best performance mod you could make to your car. had the science and everything.
I have been in the tire/tyre industry for about 15 years and I have to say this is a great intro to understanding tires. Well Done. The number one problem people and tires/tyres is Air Pressure! For the average person they rarely check it. Please check it once a month. It better to check it once a week or when going through changes e.g. ... weather changes, climate changes, weight changes, hauling/towing changes, vehicle setup changes, or different use cases. You will save on m.p.g. (gas) - get longer life out of the tires - better handling (safety) e.g. stopping and cornering.
theory816 lots of gas stations have free air for your tires. Just fill them to your manufacture recommended amount located in your driver doorway sticker. Can also use a manual tire pressure gauge.
UK is a funny one because down south winter tyres are completely unnecessary 360 days a year whereas in Scotland in winter you are going to struggle without them. You get 10 Celsius difference just going 400 miles North so the UK can't really mandate winter tyres because it would penalise people in the south.
When you try all-seaons tires in the winter, and then try new winter tires in the winter, you'll no longer thing the all-seasons work fine in the winter.
I'll just share my experience. When I used to swap winter/summer tires every season, i had few annoying issues: - Nowhere to store them, had to drive 150km to my parents because they have a house and garage so I stored my tires there. Every time I had to change them I had to plan to go to my parents. - Had to pay for them to be changed. - You have to plan it and spend some time to change, sometimes had to get out from work, annoying. - One year there was a drastic change in weather, somewhere near the end of the summer, temperatures suddenly dropped below zero C and it started snowing, it was a strange weather and I was left with summer tires, needless to say they performed ultra terrible, I had to drive way under speed limit. I decided to try all season, just for experiment. - Bought 4 x GoodYear Vector 4 (all season). (About $75 / tire). - NEVER changed them or even rotate them (If I had to rotate them I might as well change, I decided not to, even when I understand the benefits of rotation, I decided not to, to see what will happen). Exactly today is the full 4 years of usage, 76.000km traveled, during winters and summers, snow, ice and blazing heats of summer, never had any issues with them. From time to time I have put them to the test, when road is icy I floor it in 2nd gear and see how they hold, pretty good. Then I get up to speed limit, pick some object in front of me 40-50m (Usually some traffic sign), and try to imagine that person is there, then apply full brakes and see if I manage to stop, I was pleasently surprized how well they worked and always stopped way before even getting to that object. Of course I have done it on open roads when there were no cars in front or back of me. I was happy. Today the time has come, my car has finally failed on inspection for registration due to worn out front tires (Back tires are still fine). Since it's a FWD car, and I didn't do any rotation, it makes sense. So what I did is get 2 new front tires (Again all season), my car passed registration, and now I'm analyzing my experience with all season tires. To me it really makes sense to use all season if: - You drive mostly in areas which have no major snowfall, and even if it does it's cleaned quickly (Urban / City /Highway). - You don't drive agressively or take your car to the limits, and be more careful when conditions are bad. - Your car is not very powerful (Mine is 90 HP). So my conclusion is that for me all season tires are the best choice, they are convenient, work decently well and you don't need to think about it twice a year. Just change it every 4 years and forget about it unitl they fail on registration. I will not go back to Winter/Summer, but maybe some people will have more reasons to do it. For me, this is perfect :)
RWD high horsepower car is a different story. if it's your daily driver, All Seasons will get you into a wreck in the winter. I don't think there's a way around not going with winter tires on RWD 500+ HP Cars.
Same. I live in Ohio and it gets cold here in the winter and we do get snow sometimes and sometimes not much other times lots of it. I’ve always only drove with all season tires
Another note: I live in a place with hot summers and wet, slushy winters. There is a 4th type called the *all-WEATHER* tire that is basically an all-season that tends closer to the winter side of tread and compound. They will often have a "three peak mountain snowflake" badge to show they are designed for somewhat severe winter conditions, but not to the level of a dedicated winter tire. Confusing! But good to know. Next someone has to explain what all the "high performance grand standard touring luxury premium" gobbledygook actually means. 😂
Dcoy - Not to be paranoid, but I would not be surprised if Android and Apple smart phones are always listening. The phones could pick up on key words and use that in targeted advertising. I've been noticing targeted advertising on things I've verbally spoken about, but never searched for. It really makes me wonder if we have willingly given up our privacy to big companies for the sake of technology, progress, and convenience.
Uberragen21 I've noticed that too, im not paranoid but it's very privacy intrusive, i read that it happens a lot to mothers-to-be where they just got pregnant and every website throws them baby ads.
Dcoy - Scary when you think about it. I was talking with my fiancee about ideas for our wedding and then I picked up my phone and soon as I opened my news feed, Google ads showed exactly what we were just talking about.
Google tends not to talk about it much but they have a lot of methods to gather loads of data to sell. Have an Android phone, use Chrome, or even watching UA-cam? They technically could harvest data from anything you say, type, or do in those platforms. It can get pretty creepy.
One thing that irritates me working a dealership is people who refuse to change out snow tires in the middle of summer. These tires are only good for temperatures below 40F and wear out badly in summer. You might as well burn $100 bills.
It's a current practice to "finish off" winter tires during the summer when you know they won't make it through the next winter. It can save wear on your summer/all-season set. They'll still perform poorly though...
logan thompson - Me too, but I'm waiting to wear out the craptastic factory tires before dropping $800 on new summer rubber. I loved the Continental summer rubber I had on my old car. It *absolutely* changed the way the car behaved.
I would love to run summer rubber every day of the week. Too bad I had to switch to A/S rubber because of the whole drifting thing when the temps hit 45>. :(
Jonathan Matthews I live in the Northeastern U.S. and I've never had a problem with all-season tires even in the coldest and snowiest conditions. You just have to drive carefully.
Pill Cosby I also am from the North East and I used to "get by" with all seasons. Then I bought my first set of winter tires and I'll never go back. Your right about carefully driving though. I had a mustang that I was forced to drive one winter with all seasons and I never got stuck!
driving carefully won't help you when something sudden happens that you can't foresee. someone or something rushing onto the street out of nowhere for example. even if you react fast, your all seasons won't provide you with enough grip to properly transfer your input to the road.
Everyone saying "All season's are useless" really don't understand what compromise means. Not everyone has the time/money/space to have both summer and winter tires. New Gen all seasons will be sufficient for most people, especially those who live in seasonal climates
I live in a weather similar to UK or Germany, rain all year and warm summer(up to 30ºC). problem is that the weather is so weird that you have all seasons in just one day, in the morning you can get -4ºC with Ice rain, then sunny at mid-day with 14-25ºC, then very hey rainstorm at afternoon and clear weather at night. any tire recommended for this kind of weather? car is a 2ton Mercedes Benz 260E from 1986(it has ABS)
I have an Opel Combo Tour, 1.7 diesel. It takes me from UK-Spain in the spring, back in the autumn. I can't pull over halfway back and change 4 wheels. I've fitted Nexen N Blue 4 Season. They've been good in the dry heat and also in a heavy downpour, without excessive wear. They haven't been exposed to cold conditions yet, maybe on my return across the Pyrenees, next month. I'll try to remember to report back. Press reviews are good - the Michelin Cross Climates are more expensive and more summer-biased. I don't know if the Nexens are in your size, sorry.
@@johndoe-fy6jz They took me back through Spain and France in November well. Still didn't get severe weather, but grip on the twists in the Pyrenees was good. Also good in cold rain of NW England. Wish I could have tried them in the recent snow, but the battery's flattened and I won't replace it until the spring. That said, the summer tyres on my other car only spun mildly under 1st gear acceleration so not a big test anyway. Noise, dry+wet grip, comfort all good and no bad signs from standing a few months in the cold.
@@dizzyonaball4623 Have them as well on Octavia 1st gen diesel. Drove them through the UK also all the way to East Slovakia in the winter and all was good. I also find them good in heavy rain, they are also good in winter even though I haven't really had a chance to try them in very cold weather as temperature didn't went lower than -10°C/14°F and even temperatures below 0°C/32°F very rare whole winter in the central Europe - this really tells you why I choose 4-season tires... Only thing I found quite bad with these Nexens is they seem to wear out quite fast - I did so far 22kkm/13.7k mil and they seems like they have only 1/3 of usable thread left (even for summer driving I prefer not to go under 4mm of thread as this really compromise handling in the rain with my car). I drive lightly (big old 90hp diesel estate) and in 95% just on my own in the car without any heavy luggage.
i honestly found the most informative part to be where you pressed on the winter tire showing us how soft it is instead of simply saying oh its softer like others do
Maybe, just maybe, more people will realize that there are in fact, different tires for different seasons! Period! Spend a couple of bucks people, it might save your life! Thanks for this vids as even more proof. 👍🏼👍🏼
Yeah as soon as you live in temperate climate you absolutely should have winter tires. I get that further south you can get away with it but in Canada it's near suicide to not have them in my opinion. I've scared myself even with the grippiest of winter tires so...
I've always been a summer/ winter tire driver. When I swapped my summer Continental Extremecontact to Continental Extremecontact DWS 06, I was so impressed with it and I have kept DWS and handling is still great!
agreed, I would drive in snow 0-2 days per year, so all year summer tires would be the best choice IMO. I wouldn't be bothered to switch to winter tires for 1 day and all seasons are always mediocre.
Agree, it's would be easier to understand for non American viewer,
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Helmi MuZa not only that the us is currently learning imperial and metric on schools. It's best they go all out to metric like the rest of the world does.
Great video as always, one slight correction. The advantage the summer tyre has in dry and wet braking is down to block movement rather than the compound. Once all season and winter tyres are worn to nearly the legal limit they often match a worn summer tyres braking, and sometimes even beat it due to the softer compounds they use. There's currently no way of getting a siped tyre matching a non-siped tyre in braking, even with fancy things like locking sipes.
I live in the Pacific Northwest (Eugene Oregon) and I always thought that all-seasons were the best because it rains so often here with wildly varying temperatures. But after watching this I'm realizing that summer tires year-round may be my best bet. Great video!
I ran a track event in my G37S last August in the pouring rain. I was astounded at how much grip was available from Michelin Pilot Super Sports. I was the fastest car in the advanced group until the rain quit just before my final session and the track started drying. Then I was mid-pack as the guys with D.O.T. race tires started to shine.
Great video! I live in Arizona with no snow and little rain and they try to sell all season tires all the time. I will be getting summer tires from now on 👍🏻
So basically if you live in a country where it snows once a decade but rains a lot and has quite warm summers, you're better off going Summer tires all year...
Some say use caution in rain because they're road-legal competition tires that have very few tread features to maximize dry grip. How do people not know that's a thing? I've got Nitto NT01 tires and while they look like they'd be acceptable at evacuating rain, I wouldn't go out looking for rain to drive them in. They say "Recommended for competition events only" on the side, and you can tell why just by feeling the compound.
I used to swap between my studded snow tires on the winter and my all terrain tires rest of the year. Now I just leave the tires on different cars and swap cars for different seasons.
The interesting thin about the All Season tires is that they are better than both winter and summer tires for a moderate winters without or with just a little bit of snow, as it does not squirm that much and it is better at breaking and handling when wet. Also the steering feel should be better because of that.
As a motorcycle rider you are (usually) very aware of the importance of tires, compounds, wear and especially pressure. I came to find out what type of tires would do well on a car in South Florida where it's hot but gets some heavy rains, and I am glad to say you answered that question fully.
I'm using summer and winter tires now for the first time instead of all-season and it's striking how much softer and more jelly-like the handling is on the winter tyres is (car is Subaru Levorg). It goes from nice and sharp to floaty boaty when I change tyres in the winter :P
Best tires I ever put on my car (and the most expensive too, sadly) was a set of Nokian WRG3s. Fantastic tire! Super grippy in any weather, and very comfortable.
A few years ago the local news channel had a story about a study that found that winter tires perform better in all conditions except for during the summer while not raining. If I remember correctly, the basis was that winter tires heat up more easily which produces more grip in all conditions, but in dry summer conditions they become ineffective from getting too hot. Maybe it was just a puff piece because I live in MN where everyone runs winter tires year-round, but idk.
Before radial "all season tires" there was the semi annual ritual of changing tires. Growing up on Long Island, NY, Thanksgiving weekend the snow tires went on the rear drive wheels, Easter weekend the snows can off for the regular tires. When all cars had hubcaps and steel wheels it was not too bad to get a spare set of wheels. A lot of gas stations (repair shops) made decent money swapping out and mounting snow tires every year. But in Florida where I have lived for 30 years, winter is only about 3 days long, so no state laws for snow tires, though off road tires are pretty close.
I have a 2002 grand prix gt, and have a set of dedicated winter and summer tires. The winter tires make all the difference in the world I can get through snow better than most trucks and safely do the speed limit in a snow storm with an extremely generous ammount of stopping grip. If you dont have snow tires, GET THEM. But make sure you have a set of summer ones too! I live in Detroit, MI by the way.
I used to have a 2000 Grand Prix GT. My winter tires were Toyo Observes and I haven't had a FWD car before or since that was as good in the snow as that Pontiac. Having a big cast iron v6 over the drive wheels seems to give great traction!
I run winter tires from when the snow starts falling until the heavy snow falls stop. Winter tires aren't law in Ontario yet, but they sure make a hell of a difference when you drive alot. The extra control and confidence behind the wheel let you focus on driving and not worrying that your shitty tires are going to let you down. I run a long tread life all-season for the rest of the year as I might see some light snow and/or cold weather before and after winter. I use summer tires on my summer (fun) car though, as it's never going to see cold weather.
My Trans Am came with Goodyear RS-A all-seasons. They sucked in the rain, sucked in the dry and sucked in the snow. I was living in Maryland at the time where we would occasionally get some snow. But in reality I didn't drive the Trans Am in snow, so I switched to summer tires which gave me excellent dry and rain traction. I would still use these during the winter months and just be a little more cautious during the lower temperature times. Now in NC, I use summer tires on my Mazdaspeed 3 all year long. Thanks for sharing the information, if it snowed more I'd definitely consider some snow tires.
This needs an update to include the new "All-Weather" style. All-Weather tires will have a 2 peak mountain outline with a snowflake in it. Better in snow than standard all season. You should also mention the difference between ASymmetrical and Directional tires. I would love to have dedicated summer and winter tires. However the expense and time of new wheels, TPMS sensors and have to go to the dealer to have have the computer reset for the new TPMS codes every 6 months is nuts.
So annoying to switch between these in Moldova. I should just get All Season because I have nowhere to keep tires anyway. My commutes involve occasionally snow and ice but, frankly I should know better than speeding in places like that. If it's ice, I'm doomed anyway without having chain gripping.
there is cheap good tires now tho i bought 4 for 250 dollars and amazing tires that I bought online. I drove 70mph in heavy rain and had no loss of control. I have had them for several months and still look brand new.
I just got a pair of Goodyear eagle sports from a junk yard, with 85% tread still remaining, mounted and balanced them, haven't had any issues. There's nothing wrong with using used tires. There's a shop near where I live, they sell used tires only. It is really convenient to buy used tires for your spare in the back too, if yours becomes flat or rotted
One thing to look out for is the date codes on the tires. That will tell you what week of what year they were manufactured. Anything over 5 years old is iffy, and as you get toward 10 years the tire compound degradation can make them super dangerous and unpredictable.
All season perform in Lebanon. You get seasonal rain, some snow on mountains, and 30C summer where you suddenly find muddy or soapy water on the road. Not to forget the casual slidy 1st hour of rain (accumulated dust + water =thin slippy mud)
I have Toyo Celsius on my Altima coupe 3.5 6mt. The Celsius are an ALL-WEATHER tire. They are basically a combination of all season and winter tires. They are noisier than my old Potenzas, but they were awesome in the winter. I was able to go down an unplowed highway while bottoming out in the snow going around 40-45. (TCS was on the entire time but the car remained planted and straight as an arrow in the snow). Braking was not as good as high end winter tires, but has overall been great.
Living in the Alps, Winter tires in winter, all seasons the rest of the year. When the weather decides not to play nice (outside of winter) it would be very scary on summer tires. When I drive outside of the alps all season's don't disintegrate quickly. Most of my neighbors who's cars never really leave the valley (we are at 1000m - 3300ft) just run winters year round.
As someone who has grown up where it rarely gets below freezing once a year. I did not realise winter tyres were so soft. Also how do all terrains handle the snow and ice?
me217 it honestly depends on the different tire models. There are some that are pretty decent in the snow and others that are basically useless. For an all terrain tire that will see snowy conditions, look for lots of siping In the tread blocks, as well as enough spacing between the tread blocks for snow to pack. The Dean Backcountry is a good example of this.
What Matt said is pretty much spot on. I use General Grabber AT2s on my XJ Cherokee and am very happy with their snow performance. Lots of siping. Full mud tires are about as useless on snow and ice as summer tires. There's just no siping. Notice how it's always Jeep guys or brodozers with mudders who are in the ditch when it snows?
Some all terrains doesn't handle snow and ice well at all. DOn't expect them to do so anyway. The rubber blend is probably too hard. In Norway it has become a problem that EU seems to have approved "mud tires" for winter use.
I live in north carolina and own a 6 speed manual mustang. We have mild winters compared to most places and hot summers. I run summer tires and switch to all season tires during the winter. In my experience summer tires are amazing but what you didnt mention was wear. Tread on summer tires doesnt usually last as long as all seasons and are reflected in the treadwear ratings. Which arent 100% accurate due to manufactures setting the ratings but usually err on the more generous side.
Buying two sets of tires doesn't cost any extra money because you're only driving one set at a time, so, the time to replace any of those two sets is much longer. Personally I'd go with two sets because an all-season tire is bad for all seasons.
Good analysis using simple terms folks can understand. I prefer summer performance tires April-Oct. on the sports car but once low temps regularly drop below 40F I switch to A/S performance tires. In winter our temps range from teens to 40s with occasional light snow so a dedicated winter tire is not typically needed. Roughly 2 days per year the roads will form black ice and I need to tiptoe a bit until the roads warm up. Those are the only times I really long for dedicated winter tires. On the grocery-getter/dog hauler we use a quality A/S tire all year to good effect. Cheers!
Some tire retailers in Canada, such as Costco, rarely if ever stock summer tires. For all of my cars I have one set of winters on rims and one set of all-seasons on rims. The weather can be highly variable in spring and fall, so all-season gets me through to winter better. This morning, September 12, was 2 celcius but went up to 15 this afternoon.
Switch to winter tires from summer tires when the temperatures start dropping to 45 degrees and below. Very easy to tell. At 45f summer tire compound gets stiff and does not perform anymore.
I live in North Texas, the land of the all season tire. We don't get enough winter to justify the cost of dedicated winter wheels/tires, but we get just enough snow/ice and sustained (more than 2-3 days in a row) below freezing weather every year that relying on summer tires can be downright dangerous. (I learned my lesson firsthand)
That's a decent summary, but here's evidence to the contrary. It's not always that simple as it's dependent on many conditions: ua-cam.com/video/TJsV2ORMsms/v-deo.html
Been driving with all weather tires on the front, and snow tires in the back for the past few months. With temps over 100f the awesome snow tires have been wearing off slower than the all season/ all weather tires.
Nearly new tyres and they are winter tyres and they are horrible feels like I'm driving a Nissan Micra there is practically no grip (loss of Traction around corners or roundabouts and about half the braking force before ABS is kicking on the front wheels and that's before we get too wet conditions) I am going to go back tomorrow and change them for summer or anything that's not winter tyres
lee x Winter tires are for winter only, genius. If you're not somewhere that never freezes, either get two sets and switch in fall/spring or get all seasons.
Generally the transition point between a summer and winter tyre compound is 7C. If it is hotter than that year round a summer will be by far the best performer.
Yes, because the ice/snow features in an "all-season" tire aren't needed in tropical regions. Actually, you may lose more money by using all-season tires in hot climates because of the softer compound that will make them wear faster. Myself, as a Brazilian guy, never used anything but summer tires. Don't be fooled by the category name. "All-season" just means it can cross more weather conditions than specialized tires and makes no sense to countries in polar regions (permanent snow) or tropical regions (never snows).
Here in Québec, Canada we don’t have that choice once winter has arrived: between December and mid-March, law enforces use of winter tires for everyone. And not only your standard Mud + Snow tire, they need to be certified for icy conditions - the mountain and snowflake logo.
You forgot to mention that winter tires are not only for snow and ice. When -30 to -40F on dry, cleaned of snow roads, the winter tire stops and handles a lot better than a summer tire. Often people think and write in the comments that summer tires will be better on dry very cold road.
Depends on your situation. If you drive in mostly city areas where the snow is quickly cleared and lots of traffic to melt whatever falls on the roads, then all season tires will likely be fine. If you drive to ski and cottage country on the weekends, then full winter tires would be best. If you work full time and have no choice when you drive, then the winter tires may also be best. But if you are retired, or work from home, then use all season tires and don't go out during crappy weather.
Here winter tires are mandatory. The best is summer tires for summer and winter tires for winter. Generally don’t like the so called All Season Tires. All season tire really sucks in winter. Yeah if you living in a place and have 5 days of snow per winter All Season will be ok. But by -10C they become hard as plastic and supper slippery.
Depends on how good of a driver you are. I run all season tires and midwest winters are unpredictable and I do just fine. But I know how to drive properly in winter. I drop the speed down 10mph on posted signs or more and I keep more distance between myself and the one in front of me.
Here in Canada we also have All Weather tires. This is different tire than an All Season tire which is really just a 3 season tire at best around here. AWT are an option if you are restricted on finances or don't have storage for the off set of full winter or summer tires but still want the best grip you can afford over all the seasons.
I live in an area that gets around 10°f every winter and 100°f every summer. Normally I can get by with all seasons but not this winter. I moved to an area outside of town where my only 3 routes to work require a big grade (downhill/uphill 170ft). Gotta play it safe and get the winter tires. It would be a shame and keep the winter set all year but we'll see.
We have temperature swings from like 20F to 70F inside of a week where I am so I just run all seasons year round. If I had the money for extra tires, I'd probably go summer from about March to October, and all seasons over the winter.
Here in Florida we can use summer tires all year. Actually, it would be silly to use anything else, because it never snows here. And temperatures rarely go below 0°C.
Jeff Liggett Where I live changing between summer and winter tires is taken for granted because everyone does it, so for us it's instead unimaginable *not* knowing what winter tires are lol. One thing I'm wondering then is, when do you guys rotate your tires if you don't ever need to change to a second pair? Is that even a thing most people do, or do you just change when they get worn? I'm genuinely curious, as everyone where I live does it while changing between sets.
In southern UK nobody uses winter tyres because snow is rare and also there is little of it. Not worth it for 1 week if lucky, Scotland however there is a need for winter tyres.
If you live in a area like Colorado where you can get all seasons of the year in one day it is best to use all season tires. Maybe winter tires with studs for those really bad winters.
Technically they say to keep them at room temperature, nothing extreme. I leave mine inside my garage. Tires see way worse when they're on cars, and they last just fine. I can imagine the garage isn't going to be all that extreme for them.
L3xou97 , never run less friction tires in the rear, especially in winter. You will get tail happy and you want to avoid that. Same set of tires (or similar performance) around all four corners is optimal.
Youn Gu Right. I have to change my front tire soon, and my rear tire are not really used even if they're 2 years old. Should I put the new tire at the rear and the «old» at front?
Im in southeast michigan. Ive always ran all seasons...i think most around here do. We might have couple days of bad winter, but usually the roads are cleared up in a day or 2. And even when its comin down, they work just fine. If i was in northern michigan, i'd prolly be a different story. They get feet of snow
@@pvb9964 they're legal in some states. Both of the main states I've spent a good portion of my life they are completely unrestricted. That being Wyoming and Colorado. They're VERY helpful, Wyoming has some straight nasty winters and tons of people driving to work 50 plus miles on highways during blizzards.
I've been running Michelin Pilot Super Sports on my Speed3 for years. I tried Nitto Motivos once for experimentation. After one high-speed lane change on the highway, I immediately turned around, had them removed, and another set of PSSes put on. The best way to explain it was this: the Motivos made my car feel worse than stock; all of my suspension mods felt like they were no longer there. It was a horrible experience that I'll never repeat.
If people drove appropriately for the conditions, it really wouldn't matter as much if you have all-seasons. Don't want to rear-end someone? Don't drive too fast for conditions or tailgate. Don't wanna plow into something? Don't drive too fast for conditions, and turn to abruptly. Know what your tires and car can handle, don't drive like a moron, know your alternate routes, and pick a solid well performing all season; Not the cheapest set you can get your hands on. Knowing how your car and your tire behave together can go a long way .
Ryan Slemmer your driving points are valid but you obviously haven’t used winter tires or live where they aren’t necessary because no one who has will agree with you.
i've got all-seasons on my Audi A3 Quattro. Living in Britain means that winter weather can be unpredictable, there may be periods of significant snowfall as well as periods of milder, wetter weather. Last winter was particularly snowy and I had no problems getting around.
Thank you for this comment, a lot of people are saying all seasons are rubbish and they live in Canada, I'm looking for something that will get me to work in that brief snow period we get and have been looking to get some all-seasons to deal with it, how are the wear on the seasons and which brand did you choose? Thanks
My 2019 MAZDA CX 5 GT Reserve OEM tires are 225/55/19. When they are shot I'll replace them with Michelin Pilot All Season 245/50/19. I live in the 'Vegas valley but ski nearby (yes, just outside of 'Vegas, at 8,500 ft.) I have AWD for the snow - and chains! 1. better handling and braking 2. fits the OEM rims 3. the circumference is the same as the OEM tires (happily)
Hello,also the main difference is due to the tread wear ,the higher it come,it will lower your acceleration, higher fuel consumption and also much more noise at high speed due to they are much stiffer.I myself suggest that if you live in a warm climate with an average rain, high performance summer tires meet your demands much more than you expect,due to most of them use special silica compounds.
I think this years (late 2019) all season tyres are a much better compromise than you’ve show (in 2018), getting much closer to summer tyres performance in the warm and much closer to the winter tyres in the cold / snow / ice. I live in the Uk and am going to run Vredestein Quatrac Pro tyres this winter I believe in our -4 degrees C to 20 degrees C winter these will be the safest option for me. If there is more than about 4” of snow I wouldn’t go out anyway as the roads will be gridlocked from everyone else stuck with their summer tyres.
My all weather tires might just be better than your summer tires. My all weather tires might just be better than your winter tires. My all weather tires are definitely better than your all seasons. Y-rated 186 MPH, M+S A/S, 3MPSF severe service, Vredestein Quatrac 5. I'm not sure why so many gearheads continue to pretend all-weather tires aren't the next big thing.
I just bought the Quadrac 5 for my Accord and my god I never knew tires could be so amazing, comfortable and sporty in the dry, confident in the wet, and I have no doubts they'll perform great in the snow
I live in Vermont and bought mine for my lexus because I was driving for uber. You gotta figure you'll be on dry pavement much of the time and it also rains during winter so why sacrifice safety (and fail to avoid an accident on dry roads) in those more typical conditions with a winter tire when you can get all conditions covered all of the time. They have low rolling resistance too so it saved me some money. And I used Tire Racks road hazard warranty to get a tire replaced for free.
Preferably get two sets of wheels and tires. Bolts out bolts in. Easier, no balancing every time and u dont kill the rims and sidewalls. Another pro for winter tires is comfort when cold. It rarely snows where I live but I still use them for comfort. And before storage, wash the tires and wheels and keep them in a dark and cool place
My dad and I cut larger grooves in truck tires for plowing snow in Maine. Without the expanded channeling the snow packs around the entire tire like a blanket and traction is terrible. With the much larger channels the snow drops off the tire and grip improves tremendously allowing the truck and plow to do it’s hard work moving 10’-14’ high piles of snow during the most difficult parts of the work. For anything but the plowing, the tires are horrible and they make a racket when driving from driveway to driveway on bare asphalt!
Unless you were in an accident, and they inspected the vehicle, then how would they know? They don't have a VIN, so it's not as easy as a car is. Besides, that makes no sense. If someone causes an accident by having poor tires, then they are already penalized by their insurance, and usually get a ticket as well.
Theyd know the same way that youd provide photos if accident over email....with photos. And no tires dont have a vin number but they have a UTQG mark and load and index rating and speed rating and severe service rating if applicable amongst other identifiers. Not in the mood to debate so sorry if follow up comments or questions arent answered. Wish this was facebook so I could post my 5 michilin certifications including certified trainer and end the discussion there :) Have a great day
I bought a car for 1200 and I'm going to put 1500 worth of wheels and tires on it. Because grip.
sounds like a miata to me
andriolo mx6 GT turbo
i watched a video somewhere here on youtube. i dont recall which one. one of those nerdy type guys babbling on about engineering stuff. you know the type. anyway, he proposed that tires were the best performance mod you could make to your car.
had the science and everything.
SirSquash I'll give you 1000 for it
good idea. They are the only thing between your car and the road :) have fun.
I have been in the tire/tyre industry for about 15 years and I have to say this is a great intro to understanding tires. Well Done. The number one problem people and tires/tyres is Air Pressure! For the average person they rarely check it. Please check it once a month. It better to check it once a week or when going through changes e.g. ... weather changes, climate changes, weight changes, hauling/towing changes, vehicle setup changes, or different use cases. You will save on m.p.g. (gas) - get longer life out of the tires - better handling (safety) e.g. stopping and cornering.
Hungrystudent101 what would you say is a good tire for a Nissan Sentra 2014 for someone who lives in Florida?
@@bea3130 the same tire we'd use here in Alabama. All season for cars and all terrain for trucks since the season changes once a week. Lol
theory816 lots of gas stations have free air for your tires. Just fill them to your manufacture recommended amount located in your driver doorway sticker. Can also use a manual tire pressure gauge.
I have 2014 dodge charger r/t 5.7l hemi ane What would you advice me for rainy and sunny days?
Bro we got tpms. No need to check that shits
I buy tires based on which tread I think looks the coolest 😎
Good tires are about safety, then again, I support Darwinism.
Nothing wrong with that... cool tire thread usually high performance tires.
Yup, I buy tires by how they look. Pilot 4s looked most bling so bought them
Yokohama advan neova AD08R
😂 me too
So weird to hear debates over winter tires. Up here in Quebec, winter tires are mandatory from november to april
People are cheap and value funny things. Cheap pair of junky all-seasons, oh that's good enough. Then thrown down 1 grand on the new smart phone.
UK is a funny one because down south winter tyres are completely unnecessary 360 days a year whereas in Scotland in winter you are going to struggle without them. You get 10 Celsius difference just going 400 miles North so the UK can't really mandate winter tyres because it would penalise people in the south.
Nick DesRosiers They aren't mandatory lol, all-season tires work fine in the winter. Maybe the issue is Canadians don't know how to drive?
When you try all-seaons tires in the winter, and then try new winter tires in the winter, you'll no longer thing the all-seasons work fine in the winter.
Pill. You nailed it! Canucks & driving, not a good combo.
I'll just share my experience. When I used to swap winter/summer tires every season, i had few annoying issues:
- Nowhere to store them, had to drive 150km to my parents because they have a house and garage so I stored my tires there. Every time I had to change them I had to plan to go to my parents.
- Had to pay for them to be changed.
- You have to plan it and spend some time to change, sometimes had to get out from work, annoying.
- One year there was a drastic change in weather, somewhere near the end of the summer, temperatures suddenly dropped below zero C and it started snowing, it was a strange weather and I was left with summer tires, needless to say they performed ultra terrible, I had to drive way under speed limit.
I decided to try all season, just for experiment.
- Bought 4 x GoodYear Vector 4 (all season). (About $75 / tire).
- NEVER changed them or even rotate them (If I had to rotate them I might as well change, I decided not to, even when I understand the benefits of rotation, I decided not to, to see what will happen).
Exactly today is the full 4 years of usage, 76.000km traveled, during winters and summers, snow, ice and blazing heats of summer, never had any issues with them. From time to time I have put them to the test, when road is icy I floor it in 2nd gear and see how they hold, pretty good. Then I get up to speed limit, pick some object in front of me 40-50m (Usually some traffic sign), and try to imagine that person is there, then apply full brakes and see if I manage to stop, I was pleasently surprized how well they worked and always stopped way before even getting to that object. Of course I have done it on open roads when there were no cars in front or back of me. I was happy.
Today the time has come, my car has finally failed on inspection for registration due to worn out front tires (Back tires are still fine). Since it's a FWD car, and I didn't do any rotation, it makes sense. So what I did is get 2 new front tires (Again all season), my car passed registration, and now I'm analyzing my experience with all season tires. To me it really makes sense to use all season if:
- You drive mostly in areas which have no major snowfall, and even if it does it's cleaned quickly (Urban / City /Highway).
- You don't drive agressively or take your car to the limits, and be more careful when conditions are bad.
- Your car is not very powerful (Mine is 90 HP).
So my conclusion is that for me all season tires are the best choice, they are convenient, work decently well and you don't need to think about it twice a year. Just change it every 4 years and forget about it unitl they fail on registration. I will not go back to Winter/Summer, but maybe some people will have more reasons to do it. For me, this is perfect :)
RWD high horsepower car is a different story. if it's your daily driver, All Seasons will get you into a wreck in the winter.
I don't think there's a way around not going with winter tires on RWD 500+ HP Cars.
Same. I live in Ohio and it gets cold here in the winter and we do get snow sometimes and sometimes not much other times lots of it. I’ve always only drove with all season tires
All season tires are useless in the winter where I live.
@@steve8803 same, you'll literally get in a wreck or get stranded, winter tires are mandatory
@@poopscoop5836 where do you live? I'm sure if you just drive cautiously you'll be fine
Another note: I live in a place with hot summers and wet, slushy winters. There is a 4th type called the *all-WEATHER* tire that is basically an all-season that tends closer to the winter side of tread and compound. They will often have a "three peak mountain snowflake" badge to show they are designed for somewhat severe winter conditions, but not to the level of a dedicated winter tire. Confusing! But good to know.
Next someone has to explain what all the "high performance grand standard touring luxury premium" gobbledygook actually means. 😂
Get slicks because race car!
lasagna bloke Pro Tip: drive any tyre long enough and they turn into slicks 😎
Detailing Diaries 😂🤣 BIG facts!
Guess you could say my Vauxhall’s Corsa is reppin slicks on the front at the moment then...
lasagna bloke do I suspect a suspended drivers license?
Best reason yet!
Literally was about to go buy tires and this video pops up
Dcoy - Not to be paranoid, but I would not be surprised if Android and Apple smart phones are always listening. The phones could pick up on key words and use that in targeted advertising.
I've been noticing targeted advertising on things I've verbally spoken about, but never searched for. It really makes me wonder if we have willingly given up our privacy to big companies for the sake of technology, progress, and convenience.
Uberragen21 I've noticed that too, im not paranoid but it's very privacy intrusive, i read that it happens a lot to mothers-to-be where they just got pregnant and every website throws them baby ads.
Dcoy Targeted ads are crazy smart these days.
Dcoy - Scary when you think about it.
I was talking with my fiancee about ideas for our wedding and then I picked up my phone and soon as I opened my news feed, Google ads showed exactly what we were just talking about.
Google tends not to talk about it much but they have a lot of methods to gather loads of data to sell. Have an Android phone, use Chrome, or even watching UA-cam? They technically could harvest data from anything you say, type, or do in those platforms. It can get pretty creepy.
One thing that irritates me working a dealership is people who refuse to change out snow tires in the middle of summer. These tires are only good for temperatures below 40F and wear out badly in summer. You might as well burn $100 bills.
Agreed! And the performance of the winter tires in summer conditions is also poor.
Burning $100 bills is a good way to heat your home in winter, though.
It's a current practice to "finish off" winter tires during the summer when you know they won't make it through the next winter. It can save wear on your summer/all-season set. They'll still perform poorly though...
lajya01 Except when the person then requests Bridgestone Blizzack tires, in the middle of summer.
Ratkill9000 yep, even here is plenty of car (mostly but not only SUV) with winter tires even during Summer, despite temperature always over 30 C
I prefer All-season, medium rare -steaks- tires.
Man I'm glad I only need summer tyres where I live.
logan thompson - Me too, but I'm waiting to wear out the craptastic factory tires before dropping $800 on new summer rubber. I loved the Continental summer rubber I had on my old car. It *absolutely* changed the way the car behaved.
Same
me too
its so rare to see snow here in israel
I would love to run summer rubber every day of the week. Too bad I had to switch to A/S rubber because of the whole drifting thing when the temps hit 45>. :(
I envy you....
I have almost 5 months of cold weather season :-(
Living in Canada, we call "all season" tires "3 season" tires. Using all-season tires in winter is a recipe for an accident
Jonathan Matthews I live in the Northeastern U.S. and I've never had a problem with all-season tires even in the coldest and snowiest conditions. You just have to drive carefully.
Pill Cosby I also am from the North East and I used to "get by" with all seasons. Then I bought my first set of winter tires and I'll never go back. Your right about carefully driving though. I had a mustang that I was forced to drive one winter with all seasons and I never got stuck!
Pill Cosby ... there you are again spouting your lack of wisdom.
Winter tires are for sissies. Run summers all winter long
driving carefully won't help you when something sudden happens that you can't foresee. someone or something rushing onto the street out of nowhere for example. even if you react fast, your all seasons won't provide you with enough grip to properly transfer your input to the road.
Everyone saying "All season's are useless" really don't understand what compromise means. Not everyone has the time/money/space to have both summer and winter tires. New Gen all seasons will be sufficient for most people, especially those who live in seasonal climates
I live in a weather similar to UK or Germany, rain all year and warm summer(up to 30ºC). problem is that the weather is so weird that you have all seasons in just one day, in the morning you can get -4ºC with Ice rain, then sunny at mid-day with 14-25ºC, then very hey rainstorm at afternoon and clear weather at night. any tire recommended for this kind of weather? car is a 2ton Mercedes Benz 260E from 1986(it has ABS)
I have an Opel Combo Tour, 1.7 diesel. It takes me from UK-Spain in the spring, back in the autumn. I can't pull over halfway back and change 4 wheels. I've fitted Nexen N Blue 4 Season. They've been good in the dry heat and also in a heavy downpour, without excessive wear. They haven't been exposed to cold conditions yet, maybe on my return across the Pyrenees, next month. I'll try to remember to report back. Press reviews are good - the Michelin Cross Climates are more expensive and more summer-biased. I don't know if the Nexens are in your size, sorry.
@@dizzyonaball4623 Update on the Nexens?
@@johndoe-fy6jz They took me back through Spain and France in November well. Still didn't get severe weather, but grip on the twists in the Pyrenees was good. Also good in cold rain of NW England. Wish I could have tried them in the recent snow, but the battery's flattened and I won't replace it until the spring. That said, the summer tyres on my other car only spun mildly under 1st gear acceleration so not a big test anyway. Noise, dry+wet grip, comfort all good and no bad signs from standing a few months in the cold.
@@dizzyonaball4623 Have them as well on Octavia 1st gen diesel. Drove them through the UK also all the way to East Slovakia in the winter and all was good. I also find them good in heavy rain, they are also good in winter even though I haven't really had a chance to try them in very cold weather as temperature didn't went lower than -10°C/14°F and even temperatures below 0°C/32°F very rare whole winter in the central Europe - this really tells you why I choose 4-season tires...
Only thing I found quite bad with these Nexens is they seem to wear out quite fast - I did so far 22kkm/13.7k mil and they seems like they have only 1/3 of usable thread left (even for summer driving I prefer not to go under 4mm of thread as this really compromise handling in the rain with my car). I drive lightly (big old 90hp diesel estate) and in 95% just on my own in the car without any heavy luggage.
i honestly found the most informative part to be where you pressed on the winter tire showing us how soft it is instead of simply saying oh its softer like others do
Another great video from TiresExplained!
Basically haha, wait it’s obvious to you guys too that I’m tire obsessed?
Engineering Explained yeah, but it's okay. I'm not getting "tire-d" of it anytime soon. (;
Maybe, just maybe, more people will realize that there are in fact, different tires for different seasons! Period! Spend a couple of bucks people, it might save your life!
Thanks for this vids as even more proof. 👍🏼👍🏼
I live in Texas. I never have these issues.
Exactly. If you live in Texas then summer or all-season are fine all year. Don't get much snow, or many days below 50.
Yeah as soon as you live in temperate climate you absolutely should have winter tires. I get that further south you can get away with it but in Canada it's near suicide to not have them in my opinion. I've scared myself even with the grippiest of winter tires so...
@@karlehamel I live in a temperate climate but it rarely gets below freezing, rains often, etc. Winter tires would be pretty pointless here.
Depends where you live. If you live where you need winter tires then yes you should have them. If you don’t then you don’t
I've always been a summer/ winter tire driver. When I swapped my summer Continental Extremecontact to Continental Extremecontact DWS 06, I was so impressed with it and I have kept DWS and handling is still great!
Great for the Acura TL Types models as well.
A set of good summer tires, and good winter tires is the way to go. ....imo.
And if living in areas with snowy winters, tires with studs is my choice.
John Grytbakk depends where you live. Summer tires are the best year round for where I live.
agreed, I would drive in snow 0-2 days per year, so all year summer tires would be the best choice IMO. I wouldn't be bothered to switch to winter tires for 1 day and all seasons are always mediocre.
Studded tires not legal in most US states.
John Ridley if there's regular snow and studded snow tires are really illegal, that's ridiculous.
Not just for snow. The summer compounds harden when it gets too cold
Please include metric units aswell
Agree, it's would be easier to understand for non American viewer,
Helmi MuZa not only that the us is currently learning imperial and metric on schools. It's best they go all out to metric like the rest of the world does.
No
Flightboss33 LOL
Dave Dörenberg-Veltman I am American and I agree. We try pushing it but no one actually wants to adapt it lmao
Great video as always, one slight correction. The advantage the summer tyre has in dry and wet braking is down to block movement rather than the compound. Once all season and winter tyres are worn to nearly the legal limit they often match a worn summer tyres braking, and sometimes even beat it due to the softer compounds they use. There's currently no way of getting a siped tyre matching a non-siped tyre in braking, even with fancy things like locking sipes.
hi tyre rewievs. which at this video all season tires brand?
I live in the Pacific Northwest (Eugene Oregon) and I always thought that all-seasons were the best because it rains so often here with wildly varying temperatures. But after watching this I'm realizing that summer tires year-round may be my best bet. Great video!
I ran a track event in my G37S last August in the pouring rain. I was astounded at how much grip was available from Michelin Pilot Super Sports. I was the fastest car in the advanced group until the rain quit just before my final session and the track started drying. Then I was mid-pack as the guys with D.O.T. race tires started to shine.
Great video! I live in Arizona with no snow and little rain and they try to sell all season tires all the time. I will be getting summer tires from now on 👍🏻
Live in Phoenix, but travel up north often. I only run one set of tires so all season fits best for me.
So basically if you live in a country where it snows once a decade but rains a lot and has quite warm summers, you're better off going Summer tires all year...
TheFPSPower that's what it seems like what's being recommended.
Many summer tires specifically say not to drive on them in heavy rain...or at least some, maybe not many.
I´d call that crappy summer tires. At least here there is even a rating for wet performance
If they say not use in rainy weather then do not buy. That is a shitty brand.
Some say use caution in rain because they're road-legal competition tires that have very few tread features to maximize dry grip. How do people not know that's a thing? I've got Nitto NT01 tires and while they look like they'd be acceptable at evacuating rain, I wouldn't go out looking for rain to drive them in. They say "Recommended for competition events only" on the side, and you can tell why just by feeling the compound.
I used to swap between my studded snow tires on the winter and my all terrain tires rest of the year. Now I just leave the tires on different cars and swap cars for different seasons.
stonks
Having a car sit unused is not good for it, but I guess money isn't a problem for you
@@FSXgta Neither of my cars are worth much more than $1000 each. The tires are almost worth more than the car. 😁
The interesting thin about the All Season tires is that they are better than both winter and summer tires for a moderate winters without or with just a little bit of snow, as it does not squirm that much and it is better at breaking and handling when wet. Also the steering feel should be better because of that.
As a motorcycle rider you are (usually) very aware of the importance of tires, compounds, wear and especially pressure. I came to find out what type of tires would do well on a car in South Florida where it's hot but gets some heavy rains, and I am glad to say you answered that question fully.
I'm using summer and winter tires now for the first time instead of all-season and it's striking how much softer and more jelly-like the handling is on the winter tyres is (car is Subaru Levorg). It goes from nice and sharp to floaty boaty when I change tyres in the winter :P
Thanks for the explanation. As someone who just moved from a state that doesn't see snow to one that does, this was extremely helpful!
Best tires I ever put on my car (and the most expensive too, sadly) was a set of Nokian WRG3s. Fantastic tire! Super grippy in any weather, and very comfortable.
A few years ago the local news channel had a story about a study that found that winter tires perform better in all conditions except for during the summer while not raining. If I remember correctly, the basis was that winter tires heat up more easily which produces more grip in all conditions, but in dry summer conditions they become ineffective from getting too hot. Maybe it was just a puff piece because I live in MN where everyone runs winter tires year-round, but idk.
Living in Phoenix I run summer tires year round and love it
Before radial "all season tires" there was the semi annual ritual of changing tires. Growing up on Long Island, NY, Thanksgiving weekend the snow tires went on the rear drive wheels, Easter weekend the snows can off for the regular tires. When all cars had hubcaps and steel wheels it was not too bad to get a spare set of wheels. A lot of gas stations (repair shops) made decent money swapping out and mounting snow tires every year. But in Florida where I have lived for 30 years, winter is only about 3 days long, so no state laws for snow tires, though off road tires are pretty close.
I have a 2002 grand prix gt, and have a set of dedicated winter and summer tires. The winter tires make all the difference in the world I can get through snow better than most trucks and safely do the speed limit in a snow storm with an extremely generous ammount of stopping grip. If you dont have snow tires, GET THEM. But make sure you have a set of summer ones too! I live in Detroit, MI by the way.
Living in Detroit makes you invest in a winter vehicle smh ✋quilty
I used to have a 2000 Grand Prix GT. My winter tires were Toyo Observes and I haven't had a FWD car before or since that was as good in the snow as that Pontiac. Having a big cast iron v6 over the drive wheels seems to give great traction!
I run winter tires from when the snow starts falling until the heavy snow falls stop. Winter tires aren't law in Ontario yet, but they sure make a hell of a difference when you drive alot. The extra control and confidence behind the wheel let you focus on driving and not worrying that your shitty tires are going to let you down. I run a long tread life all-season for the rest of the year as I might see some light snow and/or cold weather before and after winter. I use summer tires on my summer (fun) car though, as it's never going to see cold weather.
I make my own tires from duct tape. Super reliable, never got one flat in my entire life!
NieJestemzPolskiPL Damn right
Smart
Nor traction
Plus you always have duct tape with you in case you need some in an emergency- say a rollover or a blown engine!
I saw duct tape repair to toilet roll holder in B&Q once.. if it is good enough for B&Q...
My Trans Am came with Goodyear RS-A all-seasons. They sucked in the rain, sucked in the dry and sucked in the snow. I was living in Maryland at the time where we would occasionally get some snow. But in reality I didn't drive the Trans Am in snow, so I switched to summer tires which gave me excellent dry and rain traction. I would still use these during the winter months and just be a little more cautious during the lower temperature times. Now in NC, I use summer tires on my Mazdaspeed 3 all year long. Thanks for sharing the information, if it snowed more I'd definitely consider some snow tires.
This needs an update to include the new "All-Weather" style. All-Weather tires will have a 2 peak mountain outline with a snowflake in it. Better in snow than standard all season.
You should also mention the difference between ASymmetrical and Directional tires.
I would love to have dedicated summer and winter tires. However the expense and time of new wheels, TPMS sensors and have to go to the dealer to have have the computer reset for the new TPMS codes every 6 months is nuts.
All weather are just winter tyres with a higher speed rating.
3 peak
So annoying to switch between these in Moldova. I should just get All Season because I have nowhere to keep tires anyway. My commutes involve occasionally snow and ice but, frankly I should know better than speeding in places like that. If it's ice, I'm doomed anyway without having chain gripping.
I'm so broke I only buy used tires for years never had an issue lol.
android 25 I've played Russian roulette for years and never lost lol
there is cheap good tires now tho i bought 4 for 250 dollars and amazing tires that I bought online. I drove 70mph in heavy rain and had no loss of control. I have had them for several months and still look brand new.
I just got a pair of Goodyear eagle sports from a junk yard, with 85% tread still remaining, mounted and balanced them, haven't had any issues. There's nothing wrong with using used tires. There's a shop near where I live, they sell used tires only. It is really convenient to buy used tires for your spare in the back too, if yours becomes flat or rotted
One thing to look out for is the date codes on the tires. That will tell you what week of what year they were manufactured. Anything over 5 years old is iffy, and as you get toward 10 years the tire compound degradation can make them super dangerous and unpredictable.
android 25 as if we would hear from you if you did have an issue.
All season perform in Lebanon.
You get seasonal rain, some snow on mountains, and 30C summer where you suddenly find muddy or soapy water on the road. Not to forget the casual slidy 1st hour of rain (accumulated dust + water =thin slippy mud)
Anyone who lives in the snowier areas of the country who has not driven in the snow with winter tires really needs to, they are that much better.
I have Toyo Celsius on my Altima coupe 3.5 6mt. The Celsius are an ALL-WEATHER tire. They are basically a combination of all season and winter tires. They are noisier than my old Potenzas, but they were awesome in the winter. I was able to go down an unplowed highway while bottoming out in the snow going around 40-45. (TCS was on the entire time but the car remained planted and straight as an arrow in the snow). Braking was not as good as high end winter tires, but has overall been great.
Good job on explaining the difference between these tires. Good video over all. Good job!
Good comment!
Living in the Alps, Winter tires in winter, all seasons the rest of the year. When the weather decides not to play nice (outside of winter) it would be very scary on summer tires. When I drive outside of the alps all season's don't disintegrate quickly. Most of my neighbors who's cars never really leave the valley (we are at 1000m - 3300ft) just run winters year round.
As someone who has grown up where it rarely gets below freezing once a year. I did not realise winter tyres were so soft.
Also how do all terrains handle the snow and ice?
me217 it honestly depends on the different tire models. There are some that are pretty decent in the snow and others that are basically useless. For an all terrain tire that will see snowy conditions, look for lots of siping In the tread blocks, as well as enough spacing between the tread blocks for snow to pack. The Dean Backcountry is a good example of this.
What Matt said is pretty much spot on. I use General Grabber AT2s on my XJ Cherokee and am very happy with their snow performance. Lots of siping. Full mud tires are about as useless on snow and ice as summer tires. There's just no siping. Notice how it's always Jeep guys or brodozers with mudders who are in the ditch when it snows?
winter tires are only that soft at room temperature, they harden when they're at the temperature they're designed for.
Some all terrains doesn't handle snow and ice well at all. DOn't expect them to do so anyway. The rubber blend is probably too hard.
In Norway it has become a problem that EU seems to have approved "mud tires" for winter use.
I live in north carolina and own a 6 speed manual mustang. We have mild winters compared to most places and hot summers. I run summer tires and switch to all season tires during the winter. In my experience summer tires are amazing but what you didnt mention was wear. Tread on summer tires doesnt usually last as long as all seasons and are reflected in the treadwear ratings. Which arent 100% accurate due to manufactures setting the ratings but usually err on the more generous side.
Buying two sets of tires doesn't cost any extra money because you're only driving one set at a time, so, the time to replace any of those two sets is much longer.
Personally I'd go with two sets because an all-season tire is bad for all seasons.
In Finland we have this thing called "nastarengas." Large amount of small metal studs that gives traction on icy roads.
Those are illegal in a lot of places though because they destroy the roads.
Living in San Diego id rock summer tires all year long because it never gets colder than 50 degrees 💀and it never rains
Good analysis using simple terms folks can understand. I prefer summer performance tires April-Oct. on the sports car but once low temps regularly drop below 40F I switch to A/S performance tires. In winter our temps range from teens to 40s with occasional light snow so a dedicated winter tire is not typically needed. Roughly 2 days per year the roads will form black ice and I need to tiptoe a bit until the roads warm up. Those are the only times I really long for dedicated winter tires.
On the grocery-getter/dog hauler we use a quality A/S tire all year to good effect.
Cheers!
You are a genius not because you know literally everything, but because you can somehow make boring things interesting
Some tire retailers in Canada, such as Costco, rarely if ever stock summer tires. For all of my cars I have one set of winters on rims and one set of all-seasons on rims.
The weather can be highly variable in spring and fall, so all-season gets me through to winter better. This morning, September 12, was 2 celcius but went up to 15 this afternoon.
I'm planning on doing all seasons and winters. It's hard to tell when to switch to and from winters here in WI.
Switch to winter tires from summer tires when the temperatures start dropping to 45 degrees and below. Very easy to tell.
At 45f summer tire compound gets stiff and does not perform anymore.
Thanks! Now i know for southern California i don't need to go all season just for when it does rain, and that summer tires are the best choice!
Now you should do one on directional vs asymmetrical winter tires
I live in North Texas, the land of the all season tire. We don't get enough winter to justify the cost of dedicated winter wheels/tires, but we get just enough snow/ice and sustained (more than 2-3 days in a row) below freezing weather every year that relying on summer tires can be downright dangerous. (I learned my lesson firsthand)
Simple: all-season are meh to ok-ish all year long
Winter tires are good under 7°C
Summer tires are good above 7°C
No magic.
That's a decent summary, but here's evidence to the contrary. It's not always that simple as it's dependent on many conditions: ua-cam.com/video/TJsV2ORMsms/v-deo.html
Engineering Explained If it's often raining but never snowing, but cold. Which tire should you choose?
Winter tyres are good only on the snow and ice. Summer tyres are better on the asphalt even if it is below freezing.
Apathy Zen Nice thing to know. I'm pretty sure we can get good prices on summer tire because it's soon the end of summer.
Vahid Saberin , witchcraft!!!
Been driving with all weather tires on the front, and snow tires in the back for the past few months. With temps over 100f the awesome snow tires have been wearing off slower than the all season/ all weather tires.
So for rainy season like in the equatorial region where there no snow at all, summer tyre is good for all seasons right !! ?
Summer is great in rain, yes.
Nearly new tyres and they are winter tyres and they are horrible feels like I'm driving a Nissan Micra there is practically no grip (loss of Traction around corners or roundabouts and about half the braking force before ABS is kicking on the front wheels and that's before we get too wet conditions) I am going to go back tomorrow and change them for summer or anything that's not winter tyres
lee x Winter tires are for winter only, genius.
If you're not somewhere that never freezes, either get two sets and switch in fall/spring or get all seasons.
Generally the transition point between a summer and winter tyre compound is 7C. If it is hotter than that year round a summer will be by far the best performer.
Yes, because the ice/snow features in an "all-season" tire aren't needed in tropical regions. Actually, you may lose more money by using all-season tires in hot climates because of the softer compound that will make them wear faster. Myself, as a Brazilian guy, never used anything but summer tires.
Don't be fooled by the category name. "All-season" just means it can cross more weather conditions than specialized tires and makes no sense to countries in polar regions (permanent snow) or tropical regions (never snows).
Here in Québec, Canada we don’t have that choice once winter has arrived: between December and mid-March, law enforces use of winter tires for everyone. And not only your standard Mud + Snow tire, they need to be certified for icy conditions - the mountain and snowflake logo.
You forgot to mention that winter tires are not only for snow and ice. When -30 to -40F on dry, cleaned of snow roads, the winter tire stops and handles a lot better than a summer tire. Often people think and write in the comments that summer tires will be better on dry very cold road.
Summer tyres are better on cold, dry roads. Winter tyres are better on wet roads (and snow of course)
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I don’t think that’s correct. I think cold and dry still goes to winter.
I put blizzaks on my truck this winter ❄️ never again will I go without winter tires. Absolutely amazing and I live in Saskatchewan
Yes ! The tires ! So exciting !
Johnny Yu Wow! Must be...you even took the time to comment.
Depends on your situation. If you drive in mostly city areas where the snow is quickly cleared and lots of traffic to melt whatever falls on the roads, then all season tires will likely be fine. If you drive to ski and cottage country on the weekends, then full winter tires would be best. If you work full time and have no choice when you drive, then the winter tires may also be best. But if you are retired, or work from home, then use all season tires and don't go out during crappy weather.
Here winter tires are mandatory. The best is summer tires for summer and winter tires for winter. Generally don’t like the so called All Season Tires. All season tire really sucks in winter. Yeah if you living in a place and have 5 days of snow per winter All Season will be ok. But by -10C they become hard as plastic and supper slippery.
Depends on how good of a driver you are. I run all season tires and midwest winters are unpredictable and I do just fine. But I know how to drive properly in winter. I drop the speed down 10mph on posted signs or more and I keep more distance between myself and the one in front of me.
"Here winter tires are mandatory."
"Depends on how good of a driver you are."
Lifted_Above there are different quality tires especially all season that do well.
"Here winter tires are mandatory."
Lifted_Above lol like an American NewYorker driver.
Here in Canada we also have All Weather tires. This is different tire than an All Season tire which is really just a 3 season tire at best around here. AWT are an option if you are restricted on finances or don't have storage for the off set of full winter or summer tires but still want the best grip you can afford over all the seasons.
I have learned a lot today. Thank you for sharing.
Here in the UK I've fitted Michelin cross climate tyres on my Golf . Brilliant in the wet , snow and normal summer driving .
Where was this video 5 days ago when I ordered my Pirelli P Zero A/S+
I live in an area that gets around 10°f every winter and 100°f every summer. Normally I can get by with all seasons but not this winter. I moved to an area outside of town where my only 3 routes to work require a big grade (downhill/uphill 170ft). Gotta play it safe and get the winter tires. It would be a shame and keep the winter set all year but we'll see.
Always appreciate your videos Jason! Could you please do a video on "all weather" tires with mud and snow symbols?
We have temperature swings from like 20F to 70F inside of a week where I am so I just run all seasons year round.
If I had the money for extra tires, I'd probably go summer from about March to October, and all seasons over the winter.
Annie Worroll ... look into “all weather” tires. Not quite winter but far superior to all season with better tread life for all year round use.
I never knew there was such a thing a "winter tires" until these videos, they don't even sell winter tires in FL.
Jeff Liggett wtf in finland we need to change to winter tires and summer tires because law and if u dont change u get ticket
Here in Florida we can use summer tires all year. Actually, it would be silly to use anything else, because it never snows here. And temperatures rarely go below 0°C.
There is a reason for that.
Jeff Liggett Where I live changing between summer and winter tires is taken for granted because everyone does it, so for us it's instead unimaginable *not* knowing what winter tires are lol. One thing I'm wondering then is, when do you guys rotate your tires if you don't ever need to change to a second pair? Is that even a thing most people do, or do you just change when they get worn? I'm genuinely curious, as everyone where I live does it while changing between sets.
In southern UK nobody uses winter tyres because snow is rare and also there is little of it. Not worth it for 1 week if lucky, Scotland however there is a need for winter tyres.
If you live in a area like Colorado where you can get all seasons of the year in one day it is best to use all season tires. Maybe winter tires with studs for those really bad winters.
How to store winter tire when it's summer? And at which temperature you should store them?
Technically they say to keep them at room temperature, nothing extreme. I leave mine inside my garage. Tires see way worse when they're on cars, and they last just fine. I can imagine the garage isn't going to be all that extreme for them.
Engineering Explained I have a FWD, do I need to get 4 winter tire or 2 can make it?
(joke) I'd refrigerate winter tires at minimum... freezer is too small for tires.
L3xou97 , never run less friction tires in the rear, especially in winter. You will get tail happy and you want to avoid that. Same set of tires (or similar performance) around all four corners is optimal.
Youn Gu Right. I have to change my front tire soon, and my rear tire are not really used even if they're 2 years old. Should I put the new tire at the rear and the «old» at front?
Im in southeast michigan. Ive always ran all seasons...i think most around here do.
We might have couple days of bad winter, but usually the roads are cleared up in a day or 2. And even when its comin down, they work just fine.
If i was in northern michigan, i'd prolly be a different story. They get feet of snow
"On snow and ice" - The ONLY thing that will grip on ice are studs. No rubber will provide any decent traction on ice.
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@@pvb9964 Legal in some locales. Quebec and northern Ontario allow studs.
@@pvb9964 they're legal in some states. Both of the main states I've spent a good portion of my life they are completely unrestricted. That being Wyoming and Colorado. They're VERY helpful, Wyoming has some straight nasty winters and tons of people driving to work 50 plus miles on highways during blizzards.
I live in the Southeast and just purchased all season tires I was using a summer tire so we will see what differences I detect.
I can't believe you didn't cover all weather.
? Same thing as all season yes?
can't believe you fall for marketing so easily
@@vk2461 it's definitely not just marketing. They perform better than all season tires. I have all seasons now and they're terrible in snow.
I have all 3. Summer for good warm weather. Winter for anything below freezing and with freezing precipitation. All seasons for anything in between.
I think it depends where you live,
Helmi MuZa in the UK no one has winter tyres
Detailing Diaries at least you get some snow
I've been running Michelin Pilot Super Sports on my Speed3 for years. I tried Nitto Motivos once for experimentation. After one high-speed lane change on the highway, I immediately turned around, had them removed, and another set of PSSes put on. The best way to explain it was this: the Motivos made my car feel worse than stock; all of my suspension mods felt like they were no longer there. It was a horrible experience that I'll never repeat.
Again a perfect short video that gives you the true facts and information without the sh1t
Glad you enjoyed it!
All season tires will be my next option.
If people drove appropriately for the conditions, it really wouldn't matter as much if you have all-seasons. Don't want to rear-end someone? Don't drive too fast for conditions or tailgate. Don't wanna plow into something? Don't drive too fast for conditions, and turn to abruptly. Know what your tires and car can handle, don't drive like a moron, know your alternate routes, and pick a solid well performing all season; Not the cheapest set you can get your hands on. Knowing how your car and your tire behave together can go a long way .
Ryan Slemmer your driving points are valid but you obviously haven’t used winter tires or live where they aren’t necessary because no one who has will agree with you.
You are not alone on the road. If you were to drive at 40 km/h while everyone else is driving at 85 km/h, you would not fit into the traffic.
i've got all-seasons on my Audi A3 Quattro. Living in Britain means that winter weather can be unpredictable, there may be periods of significant snowfall as well as periods of milder, wetter weather. Last winter was particularly snowy and I had no problems getting around.
Thank you for this comment, a lot of people are saying all seasons are rubbish and they live in Canada, I'm looking for something that will get me to work in that brief snow period we get and have been looking to get some all-seasons to deal with it, how are the wear on the seasons and which brand did you choose? Thanks
I have Vredesten Quantrac. You need to have bought All season or winter tyres by December at the latest as they stop making them then.
All seasons "decently well" I call 'not being able to stop in winter conditions' complete crap, but everyone has their own style.
My 2019 MAZDA CX 5 GT Reserve OEM tires are 225/55/19. When they are shot I'll replace them with Michelin Pilot All Season 245/50/19. I live in the 'Vegas valley but ski nearby (yes, just outside of 'Vegas, at 8,500 ft.) I have AWD for the snow - and chains!
1. better handling and braking 2. fits the OEM rims 3. the circumference is the same as the OEM tires (happily)
Why am I here? We don't even have winter
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Hello,also the main difference is due to the tread wear ,the higher it come,it will lower your acceleration, higher fuel consumption and also much more noise at high speed due to they are much stiffer.I myself suggest that if you live in a warm climate with an average rain, high performance summer tires meet your demands much more than you expect,due to most of them use special silica compounds.
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@@honestguy7764 Use Google translator next time. He wrote: Thanks for good information.
I think this years (late 2019) all season tyres are a much better compromise than you’ve show (in 2018), getting much closer to summer tyres performance in the warm and much closer to the winter tyres in the cold / snow / ice. I live in the Uk and am going to run Vredestein Quatrac Pro tyres this winter I believe in our -4 degrees C to 20 degrees C winter these will be the safest option for me. If there is more than about 4” of snow I wouldn’t go out anyway as the roads will be gridlocked from everyone else stuck with their summer tyres.
My all weather tires might just be better than your summer tires.
My all weather tires might just be better than your winter tires.
My all weather tires are definitely better than your all seasons.
Y-rated 186 MPH, M+S A/S, 3MPSF severe service, Vredestein Quatrac 5.
I'm not sure why so many gearheads continue to pretend all-weather tires aren't the next big thing.
I just bought the Quadrac 5 for my Accord and my god I never knew tires could be so amazing, comfortable and sporty in the dry, confident in the wet, and I have no doubts they'll perform great in the snow
I live in Vermont and bought mine for my lexus because I was driving for uber. You gotta figure you'll be on dry pavement much of the time and it also rains during winter so why sacrifice safety (and fail to avoid an accident on dry roads) in those more typical conditions with a winter tire when you can get all conditions covered all of the time. They have low rolling resistance too so it saved me some money. And I used Tire Racks road hazard warranty to get a tire replaced for free.
Preferably get two sets of wheels and tires. Bolts out bolts in. Easier, no balancing every time and u dont kill the rims and sidewalls. Another pro for winter tires is comfort when cold. It rarely snows where I live but I still use them for comfort. And before storage, wash the tires and wheels and keep them in a dark and cool place
4 wheels, 4 seasons; 4 different tyres!
My dad and I cut larger grooves in truck tires for plowing snow in Maine. Without the expanded channeling the snow packs around the entire tire like a blanket and traction is terrible. With the much larger channels the snow drops off the tire and grip improves tremendously allowing the truck and plow to do it’s hard work moving 10’-14’ high piles of snow during the most difficult parts of the work. For anything but the plowing, the tires are horrible and they make a racket when driving from driveway to driveway on bare asphalt!
I always thought it was weird that tires didnt play an effect on insurance rates
Unless you were in an accident, and they inspected the vehicle, then how would they know? They don't have a VIN, so it's not as easy as a car is. Besides, that makes no sense. If someone causes an accident by having poor tires, then they are already penalized by their insurance, and usually get a ticket as well.
Theyd know the same way that youd provide photos if accident over email....with photos. And no tires dont have a vin number but they have a UTQG mark and load and index rating and speed rating and severe service rating if applicable amongst other identifiers. Not in the mood to debate so sorry if follow up comments or questions arent answered. Wish this was facebook so I could post my 5 michilin certifications including certified trainer and end the discussion there :) Have a great day
I'd love a discount...
They do where I live. If you put winters on in winter, you get a lower rate.
thats awesome what state or country is that?
I feel like the answer is all of the above.... And bolt on whatever is best suited to the season.