Winter tires VS All Season Tires. Proof that you need WINTER TIRES!!
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- Опубліковано 4 гру 2017
- Motormouth Canada had a chance to travel to Whitehorse in the Yukon to test two identical cars, one with winter tires and one without. Even with a vehicle equipped with AWD, the video proves that driving with winter tires makes a massive difference. Proof that you should invest in winter tires.
Here are the results. Thanks to Subaru for the use of the Crosstrek utility vehicles. - Авто та транспорт
Conclusion get an orange colored Subaru for better traction during winter
It's all fun and games until your Subaru blows a head gasket.
Xachremos LOL!!!!!!
yes , that's it , more lead in orange paint makes the vehicle heavier , just don't let your dog lick the car
anvesh k hahahaha dude 😂😂😂😂
Orange is also a very safe color in the Winter. I mean if somebody hits you your first question should be "what, did you not see me in my bright ORANGE car!?"
YESSS a review that actually uses the same car unlike other reviews...
Brendan Hickey I couldn't believe one review used a 99 Pontiac Grand am versus a 2008 honda civic...seriously lmao.
True, but I would have liked to see something other then a Subaru, which is by far the best vehicle to drive in the winter, regardless of tires.I want to see the extreme difference.
@@Theyralltakenfu LOL best vehicle to drive in winter, you sure of that. I only ask cause I owned a Subaru and Jeep. The Jeep was superior with it's active Drive 2 system which is vastly more complex and versatile AWD/4x4 system. Not to mention the Jeep is higher off the ground and has larger tires which give it better grip and stopping power. Subaru's name is well known for winter driving because they were always AWD back starting in 1992. They were known to have issues in winter since the old AWD had no traction control and people would get over confident and lose control when the tires went over ice. It's known as the Subaru effect. Also without winter tires non of the AWD system can help you when your tires go rock hard like a hockey puck.
@George Lappat LOL. Nice one. We just got hammered in the North East by storm Avery where there was no plowing and everything was covered in snow. Over 550 accidents in NJ alone not to mention the other states. There's always snow and ice on the roads even after plowing. You think the road gets scraped clean with no build of slush that freezes, or snow that falls on it again?
Uh, no. Let's leave it at that for the sake of your remaining brain cells.
There's why this video is great: same vehicle, same (professional) driver (I'm assuming), same road conditions, same maneuvers. This means the only factor that remains is the tires. This shows you how all-wheel drive is not a replacement for winter tires under snowy or icy driving conditions. The only thing I didn't like about the first test is that it (naturally) took the Crosstrek with the all-seasons longer to get up to speed and this made it look like the stopping distance was much longer.
I've been driving for 15 years and started using winter tires 7 years ago when the car I bought came with an extra set of winter tires with rims. All I can say is wow what a difference. I will always use winter tires once the mercury drops as my car transforms into a mountain goat. They don't even need to be expensive winter tires, even the cheap ones do an amazing job.
I agree. Even the cheapest winter tires will out perform the best all seasons. I think all season should be illegal...
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"They're like hockey pucks"
This is so Canadian LMAO
"Just like curling"
As I have lived in Finland all my life, I just cannot get my head around the fact that so many Canadians even thinks buying all season tires. Should be one of the most obvious things in the world to go for a set of good winter tires.
Especially with 4WD's its not about how you accelerate, its about how you gonna come to a stop.
Nah only idiot think that... sadly our south cousin is having a bad influence on them...
@@noway543 ofc only idiots think like that, but its amazing how many idiots there are. Same goes with northern US, Russia, UK.
Yea, most people think you can plan your driving and use summer tires and that you don't need winter tires. But what happens when you drive and something jumps up on the road without winter tires you have 0% chance of stopping. If you're too cheap to buy winter tires then sell the damn car and take the bus instead!
Poor Coyote Yup. Then again, I do not like the studded tires in southern Finland.
If you live in the north in some more remote area with poor road upkeep and/or driving mainly on frozen lakes, i get it.
But there is no reason for a studded tire in Helsinki, Turku, Pori or anywhere were there is snow plowing and where you are going to use highways.
Studded tires are illegal in the Alps. If they can drive ice covered steep downhill hairpins in a snowstorm with a 300m drop 50cm to the right and a mountain wall 2m to the right at a speed restriction of 60-80 km/h using non studded wintre tires, im pretty sure we in Finland would be able to make our grocery runs on snowy flat asphalt without studs too, without ripping up the asphalt, destroying it and filling the air we breathe with the dust created.
@@SportSoulLife buuut on the other hand its not a coincidence that over 80% of fatal accidents happens with non studded tires. You tend to not have the grip when you most need it, usually black ice or something.
The ending location of the two cars was also impacted by the fact that they reached the "mark speed" at different times do to differences in traction during acceleration. It would have been interesting to see the difference in stopping distance as an individual measurement.
"I regret buying winter tires"....said no one.
Ain't that the truth...😀
I regret not buying studded winter tires.
I have never owned a winter tire. Ever. Drove winters in the oil fields for 35 years. Never had a problem. Never in the ditch.
@@daveroberts6884 Yeh.. But winters here in the arctic circle are bit different :)
the only problem is that for city dwellers, storing a set of wheels and tires can be a impossible unless you pay for a storage locker.
What a beautiful scenery.
Also, city road covered in snow/slush is more slippery than thick packed down snow like on the video.
It only makes sense to get cold weather tires. Besides discount you would get from your insurance helps a lot with purchase. (especially for those with higher premium, 5% discount could mean, free winter tires for 4 season use).
What i say to people who don’t get snow tires because they have 4wd . 4wd doesn’t help you stop faster.
Exactly. Stopping is the big issue. Even if you have just 1 axle driving and you get stuck at least you can get out safely by getting a tow or getting people to push. I have actually pulled out a lot of police cars with winters on but they were RWD Crown Vics. But at least you are not rear ending other drivers and sliding through intersections.
Someone i know said that he could drive faster on snow and ice with all season tyres just because he has a brand new AWD/4WD (don't remember exactly what now), and that he would have better control.
Guess who had to tow him out of a snowbank in a '97 FWD with winter tyres?
Four wheel drive doesn't help you turn better either. All it really does is get you going faster and that is what gets people in trouble. thinking you can drive like the road is bare because you have 4 wheel drive
@@johnkendall6962 Well, given that you have the right tyres for the conditions, AWD/4WD will give you better traction, but as far as i know, that's about it.
There is one exception. If it's 4WD with no center differential it removes brake bias. Typically a car will apply more brake pressure to the front wheels than the back because of weight distribution while braking plus preventing an oversteer condition, as the front wheels will lose traction first. In snowy conditions the less traction reduces the weight transfer by a lot and often times the front wheels will begin to skid (ABS counts as a partial skid) before the rear wheels are applying much braking force. With a 4WD vehicle with no center differential such as many pickup trucks have, if in 4WD the front brakes will apply braking power to the rear wheels through the driveline, applying much more braking force to the vehicle which is why it "feels" safer. It absolutely can reduce stopping distance by a big margin. However if the brakes are applied too hard and the vehicle brakes traction it does so on every corner at once. Without the normal understeer tendencies of the vehicle's 2WD mode it can enter a lateral skid where there's no control at all very quickly.
Got my first set of winter tires last month..all I can say is wow..the grip and stopping is great..I will always run winter tires from here on out
Very cool vid here. I just moved to Idaho area and I am dealing with a lot more traffic with winter roads. Thank you for the great lesson.
I always say AWD/4WD helps you get from 0 to 5 km/h. After that it's all about the tires. All cars have 2 wheel steering and all cars have 4 wheel braking. Another way of putting it: AWD helps you GET out of a snow bank, but winter tires KEEP you out of the snow bank.
Great video! Thanks for showing the drastic difference snow tires make, so many people believe AWD vehicles are just fine with ASR's in the winter - simply not true. The right tires can literally be a life saver.
Beautiful setting and great production values.
Thank you for this, as is education and entertaining. Beautiful snowy scenery.
I got a set of Blizzaks for my fwd civic and the winter tires are like night and day difference over my all seasons. I love them. Can't wait for the snow!
Thank you for this presentation ! Much appreciated.
Do you have the best job in the world or what! Big respect for the quality of your work, man!
Great test, wonderful location. Thank you.
I've always said I'd rather drive a RWD car with snow tires than an AWD car with all-seasons in the winter. The tires are far more important than the number of driven wheels in my opinion.
Chris Brook until you drive into A drift and the two tires that are on A good traction surface are not the drive tires, and unfortunately the drive axle is the one that's buried...at least in an AWD you have A greater chance of getting out.. I have lived and grown up in snow since I was born..I have seen every vehicle from front to rear to AWD to 4WD, nothing has ever beaten A 4WD here, except my 2WD truck with ice cleat chains. My dads Ranger tires were bald and we were in A foot or so of snow and ice underneath, and he could Not get going. He never puts A thousand miles A year on it and we were in our private road so new tires aren't needed. I drove right past him lol.
+1 to Chris, because FWD/RWD/AWD only matters in one direction -- going forwards. The other three directions -- turning left, turning right, and braking -- depend on tire grip.
In your opinion. I absolutely do not concur.
Billy Morgan Having driven the same car in poor conditions on three categories of tires (all-season, summer, and winter), I’m absolutely standing by my statement.
BarracksSi drive wheels matter in cornering, you’re not using your throttle correctly if you think this way.
With RWD and AWD you can steer with power, with FWD you are balancing weight with throttle but you aren’t increasing the angle of intent.
Also note, most AWD are open diffs and are only 2WD.
I live in Montreal Quebec and of course here Winter Tires are mandatory Dec 15th until March 15th, for good reason...I am amazed people still need convincing on this as its such a no brainer.
In Norway its mandatory from 1. Oct (depends on how far north) to 1. May. Oh well, its not really mandatory, but youre allowed to use tires with metal spikes during that period. You always have to use winter tires when its slippery. If not your license is gone, even of its before the date youre legally allowed to switch.
@@notmyrealhandle Caught without, what happens? 5 yrs of 3 squares, free internet, and free cable TV and you have to shit in front of somebody; or just annoying community service?
This is a great video with real word situations put to the tests. I live in eastern Pennsylvania where we get a good amount of snow. I use Continental winter tires on my rear wheel drive BMW and it handles like a boss in the snow.
Great Information - Thank you - I just ordered a set of 4 winter tires for the 2018 snow season.
Great review! I have been running winter tires for the past 15+ years. All season tires are terrible in snow and ice.
Great demonstration! It is also important to notice that the same goes for summer tyres vs. all season tyres. In warmer weather and on dry or wet road summer tyres give you much better grip and accident avoidance capabilities than all season tyres. When emergency breaking from 100km/h the difference can be several meters which means that with one set of tyres you might have not slammed into that truck at the end of the traffic jam you didn't see whilst with the other you slam into it and get decapitated.
I love your comparison at 4:40, saying it's "Just Like Curling!" as the car slowly starts to turn.
Great review. Comparing the same model, same conditions. You answered my question. I’ll be getting Cold Weather tires for my AWD for sure.
Thanks, Zack!
Some 4x4 and AWD owners had this "false sense of security" driving in the winter. Drivetrain is useless when you don't have traction on the surface , do yourself a favor and invest in proper set of winter tires.
You need to compare winter tires with all season tires which have mud + snow sign on them, such as winter proof Michelin Crossclimate Plus.
The all season tires in this video look like regular summer tires.
Exacly!SUMMER one!
@George L i have cross climate.(standard, without "+") and belive me thoese tyrese are the Best i hale ever had.
Cross climate isn't all weather tyre.It's summer tyre with winter approval.
It wouldn't be as good of a test if they used a highly rated all-season tire or even better an all weather tire. Here's some science on tires that people should all see. ua-cam.com/video/bKtnczk8Mxk/v-deo.html
The factory Yokohama Geolandar G91F have the M+S sign on them. M+S means it has the minimum void to tread ratio. Michelin CrossClimate also has the 3PMS, which is mentioned in the video is a minimum performance traction test.
His winter tires are actually ms tires lol
Great explanation. It's not only about snow, it's mainly about temperature. Most people make their morning commutes when it's coldest. Once overnight lows are consistently in the 30s I change to my winters.
Great video and great information about the composition of the tire. Looking to purchase some winter tires this year
AWD with snow tires is like cheating your way through winter. Do yourself a favour and get a set. Bonus, you put less miles on your summer/all seasons, so they last a few more years too.
you have the added expense of mounting / balancing an extra sets of tires. Negates any savings on your summer tires.
@@dufus2273 you change the tires with the rim.
@@dufus2273 Get some cheap wheels and put your winter tires on those. If your winter tires are on wheels where I work there's no charge.
And AWD with studded nordic winter tires is godmode on ice vs even winter tires without studs.
Also, one set of summers and one set of winters lasts longer than two sets of all seasons or one all season and one winter.
The only reason i can think of for getting an all season tire is lazyness.
You also need GOOD quality winter tires.
Gordon Freeman I have Nokian hakkapeliitta 9 XL tyres lol.
I'm a fan of Michelin Xice. The only ones I've used since living in northern U.S. Blizzaks may be next though. Studded Nokians are tempting as well.
Any winter tire is better than any all season. There might be some dirt or mud tires that do better on snow than some winter tires, none do better on ice.
Oh yeah.... Winter tires don't help on dry pavement regardless of temperature.
@@isaackarjala7916 True winter tires like Xices, Blizzaks, IceGuards, Hakkas, etc are made of rubber that stays much softer than the rubber of all-season tires once temps decline below 45-degrees F. This means that friction remains greater between dry pavement and winter tires than the all-seasons at freezing temps.
Second test looked like great fun!
Beautiful scene and nice demonstration
Great video! Snow tires a must cuz my life has no price 💰
Great video! 100% Agree! 👍👍
Well done. Very informative. Looks like a great day for testing.
Great review. My wife's Escape (AWD) runs winter tires and it does fantastic! Last year we ran my summer tires all winter (Alaska), because lazy happens; however, this year I put my winter tires back on my vehicles and WOW was it night and day difference.
Also, I think you should repeat this test at temperatures near the freezing point (0C or 32F). Because many people use All Season tires in areas with mild winters, and consider All Season it's enough if the temperature rarely drops well below 0C.
I live in Minnesota and use all season tires with zero problem
It really depends on where you live. If you have snow on the roads for 3 months straight you'll want winter tires. But like in Colorado where it's 20 degrees one day and 60 the next, you don't want to be driving on soft winter tires when the roads are dry half the winter, and wear down your tread enough to make them unsafe for when it snows
I think All Season with the 3 peak mountain snowflake rating is best for this region. At least less chance of getting stuck. Not sure about the steering and stopping as demonstrated in this video. Winter tire for the win. Can always buy a seperate set of wheels and a nice jack and torque wrench and change out to the winter tires based on the 7 day forecast lol
Great video. Good work, I love my winter tyres. Before my snow tires, I had a close call every year for about 3 seasons. Now my second season so far 100% perfect. Way more confidence. And I can slow down when the idiot in front keeps breaking on a hill. When I had like no traction. Scary situation. Now I can grip no problem. And no driving issues. Same drive but with snow tires. Couldn't recommend them more, I have Nokian Nordman 5's I live in Northeast Ohio.
Great comparison. I live in Alberta and have the typical Alberta "family car". A 3/4 ton crew cab pickup truck. I bought a second set of rims several years ago, and every fall around Halloween put on my winter tires. Depending on what you do with your vehicle and where you drive, the tire you pick will vary. Since I have a 4x4 truck, I put on something called Arctic Claws. There are several versions of this made by different manufacturers. They are a little more aggressive than let's say the Blizzaks you'd put on your car, having deeper, wider lugs, but still siped. Hopefully many of the people who saw this video have the sense to buy winter tires!
The “all season” tire they are testing are the G91F, which they put on new crosstreks, including my ‘19. They are rated terribly on snow and are really a summer highway tire to increase MPG. My Geolandar A/T G015’s are WAY better and would be a real A/T vs winter Tire test.
Totally agree. These tests are so biased. I know winter tires get better traction than all-season in snow. But at least show a better comparison. Also show dry winter driving or just some sloppy road. I live in a city and the roads are usually plowed so they are pretty dry. If I lived in the country and no plows than I would buy winter tires.
Wow, very informative!
Great video- I got nervous seeing the two lined up knowing you were going to slam on the breaks!
best review of snow tires, just got a set for the first time and it honestly is such a good feeling just going around every one like nothing lol
Couldn't agree more. I've seen AWD or 4x4 vehicles stuck in snow that I got out of just fine in my 2WD with winter tires. Tires make all the difference. For 95% of drivers with AWD that don't actually go off-road, they're simply wasting money. Just invest in two sets of tires.
I pushed a lifted 4X4 that had AGGRESSIVE on/off road mud/snow tires out of a snowbank with a PLYMOUTH RELIANT on all season radials. Put my wheels where his had been and drove out.
90% of 4X4 drivers are absolutely clueless.
I've driven a VW Thing (essentially a Bug with a boxy body and oversize tires) places that the big 4X4 people said nobody could go... then one tried to follow me and promptly got stuck TDC.
Just knowing your car and operating it properly goes a lot further than tire choice.
F Huber.. I smell Bullsh*t 😂
Who goes off-roading in an awd
You could also drive with snow tires all year, like some people here do. Only downside is faster tire wear.
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Got Michelin X-ice XI3 on my Mercedes E300 this winter, I think they outperformed my OEM Pirellis in most ways. Even on dry pavement, they are very quiet and ride well.
When my first generation X-Ice tires finally wore out, I purchased the same tires you have. They are amazing.
Same here, got Michelin X-ice North. Great winter tires.
Michelin makes great tires, though I only use Michelin for summer tires. If you want an even better winter tire I can recommend the Nokian Hakkapeliitta 9 Studded tire. The amount of grip in ice and snow is just amazing as it continuously gets top marks in tire tests :)
@@Basih Michelin Winter tires are Decent but there is much better tires from competing companies. Bare in mind there are two companies that only make Winter tires as they specialize in them. I had a pair of the Michelin X-ice 3 since I got them for 38% off. Otherwise there are much better winter tires like Nokian Tyres Hakkapeliitta 8's etc...
Thanks so much for the help, I will make sure my next vehicle is orange !
I moved from Canada to the States some years ago. But I can definitely hear the Canadian in your analogies. First you said, the all-season tires become hard like hockey pucks. Then, as you were sliding on the ice, you said it was just like curling! Hehe! Wonderful!
There are a lot of all-season tires that are not good in snow, but I have found the Continental ExtremeContact DWS 06 all-season tires to be very good in the snow. They almost act as legitimate snow tires. So it really depends on which all-season tire you buy.
I have those. I believe they do have an actual snow rating
Excellent example demonstrating why everyone needs winter tires. There are alot of people who do not believe in snow tires. Who would not want their vehicle stop in half the distance. The only difference in cost is rims as summer and snow tires will be on 6 months each. Winter tires should be mandatory in Ontario like they are in Quebec.
Absolutely!
MIke White I'm surprised that Quebec is the only province across Canada which winter tires is mandatory. All those awd/4wd definitely helps in certain situation but nothing compare to a good set of winter tires though.
Ha. Try commuting from Toronto south. Those snow tires are entirely unnecessary and will wear out in one season (seriously..)
1 season? We use our winter tires for 5~6 years just fine.
MXSLICK I've been using mine for around 3 seasons, no problem, lots of tread still. Toronto.
Very informative and 👍 picking the location for this video!!
Superb review with common sense. Short and precise!
waiting to read expert keyboard warriors telling us you don't need winter tires in snow and icey conditions
"I drove my 500HP RWD sportscar with Summer Performance tires in 2 feet of snow this winter and I was fine. All the over-confident soccer moms in their AWD SUVs were skidding left and right around me. It's all about technique"
sounds about right
You dont NEED it. Semi trucks drive all the time with all seasons, and they weigh 50.000kg over here. Its for sure better though.
mornadu when semi trucks go through mountains, for example, they are required (I believe here in AB and BC) to put on tire chains. And I don't know too much about semi trucks, but comparing them to passenger vehicles, is like comparing Apple to orange.
TheVP good luck with you “technique” when a stop sign meets a little bit, just a little bit of up hill ramp!
Would have great to see a 2 wd vehicle WITH Snow tires vs. a 4 wd vehicle without Snow tires.
Thanks it will help me a lot this winter
I purchased a set of Michelin Crossclimate2 all season tires for my 2016 Subaru Forester. They have the Mountain Snowflake (winter tire) approved emblem. I haven’t had a chance to drive in the snow, but the ride is great in the rain and on dry pavement. They also look awesome!
Perfect time for this video, still deciding between x-ice or blizzak ws80.
Costco shopper?
I've used the Michelin X-Ice XI3 tires on my Prius, and later my Chevy Volt. I got those because tirerack said they drive the most "all-season like" when the weather is cold but there's no ice/snow to contend with.
And when there is snow/ice on the ground, it handled just fine.
I've had both as well as Altimax Arctic 12's and I prefered the Arctic 12's.
victor rosario ice-x there amazing and smoother on dry roads.
Blizzak. Everything else is rubbish
3:03 check it is summer tire funny test :) I use 4 season tire Vredestein Quatrac 5 ... and it is awesome
Summer tires and very bad rubber.
Awesome, very well explained and displayed.
Very helpful !! I m gonna invest some money on it considering that i drive between Vancouver and Calgary and the kootenay valley's
Adding to the video also don't mix and match your tires, so no winter tires up front and all-seasons out back. It will upset your car during turning or breaking and cause you to spin out.
Trust me I made the mistake of trying that for a single day this year because the rims needed to be painted, never once been in an accident or lost control of my car before that.
This is true even for FWD?
Yep the car I spun out in was a FWD altima the same rules apply be it FWD,RWD or AWD. It's ultimately your tires ability to grip the road that let you turn and stop in poor conditions so if you have more grip in the front and less out back the rear of the car is far more likely to come around while your turning.
AWD is only really good at getting you going during low traction situations, you still need good tires behind them to actually be able to stop or turn.
Nonsense for any semi-modern vehicle with abs and traction control, unless you were just driving too fast for conditions and would have lost control either way.
It does not upset the vehicle if the same model (and wear/size) are on the same axle and different on the other axle also matched per axle.
You spun out no sooner than you would have if you had same all seasons on all 4 wheels, meaning you were simply driving too fast.
@@BigHeadClan Mmm, no, AWD lets you power your way through a loss of control, and you only spun out because you were driving too fast, had nothing to do with mismatched tires. Less in the back means nothing, you were merely driving too fast for the amount of grip you had. It is crazy that you can't even understand this and came to a false conclusion, but then you did already in thinking you could drive faster than was safe. Don't do either.
It looks to me like he didn’t break the same for each automobile. He seems to have turned the steering harder on the vehicle with the all season tires. With all that said, get winter tires if you want to drive in the snow.
well he ain't a robot
Great video. I just bought a 2024 Hyundai Tucson with AWD drive. Cost me a bit for winter tires but glad I did.
I'm in Australia, and drive an older Audi Q7 fitted with snow tires (on a spare set of rims) during Winter which I use to take folk up to Falls Creek Ski Resort. It is a great feeling cruising past all the people in the chain-bays fitting chains when on the way up the mountain. I do carry chains but I have never had to fit them. Last year I drove through 2 blizzards and snow tires didn't let me down.
I sometimes have to drive 800km round trip on bitumen freeway to Melbourne to pick up guests. The snow tires even work ok on those sealed roads, but I'm careful not to push them hard. So far I have got 2 winters out of them and will go for 1 more.
Best tire decision I have made.
The people who think they don’t need winter tires aren’t watching videos like this.
Wrong you can't make that assumption. It depends where they live and how the roads are maintained in winter. Here as soon as it snows in 25 min we have over 450 plows on duty, salting the roads like know ones business.
its "no ones business" not "know ones business" :D
Or live where it rarely snows... but ya know, the world is only as big as your own back yard.
@@theblitz1687 Oh God, another troll who has nothing of significance to contribute.
@@TedSchoenling It can be confusing where I live since the temperature is so dynamic. I have winter tires but the reality is that usually within a 10 year period you will only need them 50% of the time per session. Also when you need them it's typically only for 2 -3 months. However if you drivw 2 hrs up north here in Ontario, Canada then the situation changes dramatically where you need them significantly more frequent.
I have winters on my legacy, and absolutely love how car takes off of the red light leaving everyone far b far behind 😆 It's crazy to see people driving fwd shitboxes on run down summer or no-seasons in snow/ice. 😏
My brother and I were driving through the city after a big snow storm. He had a Mazda 6 Mazdaspeed, which is AWD. He got stuck in the snow while my FWD Camry on winter tires had no issues.
THANK YOU for this video. I'm working at a roadside assistance customer service hotline, and the number of ridiculous missconceptions people have about all-season tires is just too damn high! The number one question I get every year, when it starts to become reeeally cold but snow didn't yet fall: "Well, there's no snow, so I don't need winter ties yet, right?" Well, wrong you smartass!! As stated in this video, low temperatures make the rubber compound of summer/all-season tires rock solid, hence it loses basically all of its grip (I loved the comparison with the hockey puck :P).
Winter tires are mandatory in northern europe, for a good reason. UA-cam is full of these summer or season drivers, check e.g. the russian videos.
Ps. The best rally drivers used to come from Finland, but driving skills have no correlation with bad tires...be smart and drive safely.
also Germany, Austria, is you drive on snow without "snowflake" tyres, you have to pay....
I'll take cold weather and snow over humidity and 90 degrees any day.
I need to get out of Tennessee.
This aged gracefully as we (Tennessee) just got 3-5 inches of snow this weekend and is on track to get 2-3 more on Wed & Thurs.
I have driven this Crosstrek with winter tires in Banff. -25 Celsius. No problem at all! Brilliant system!
great video! I live in the southern part of the US so we maybe get two snow storms a year. Never normally more than 6inches either. So in my situation I use all season pirelli p7's. But I can definitely see buying winter tires if I lived towards the north where snow is on the ground for a majority of the winter months.
It's horses for courses,all season not suitable for the yukon but perfectly suitable for the Uk.full winters a waste of money here unless you live on a big hill in northern Scotland.Both types have their place.
some people just don't understand the importance to own a set of snow tire. Can't believe they just want to save some money in stead of saving their own lives.
Some people don't realize that there are places that get so little snow that it is an absolute waste .. but remain ignorant and small minded
I've driven my Gen 7 Celica in snow with four winter tyres and can say that for such an unsophisticated little vehicle, it is incredibly practical and feels really safe with winter tyres in snow.
Use to run all seasons (bfgoodrich gforce comp2 as). They're good for wet and dry but are ok for like an inch of snow. Got dedicated winter tires and its a night and day difference.
How to get rear ended in New York City, get Winter tires...
explain. because you can stop too fast?
@@tmass1 The city is packed, so abrupt stopping can cause the accident. Basically, yes
Prefer to get rear-ended instead of running into a pedestrian and NYC pedestrians are the worst.
T-Mass because everyone else is running all season tires at best, some surely just summer tires all year.
stop for a pedestrian any time of year.
And there's difference between brands. Don't get chinese winter tires
Yep. Can't go wrong with Continental, Michelin and some other decent brands. Cheapening out on tyres can impact your own safety. There are lots of good tyre review websites. People should not just get the first set of off the rack tyres they see
Its all about Nokian's. I got the Hakka 8s
Yeah I was too lazy to type in all the decent brands but Nokian is up there.
That's not completely true.
It depends on the tyre diameter. Nokian sucked in the 17 inch tyre. Decent in others. Here in Germany in independent tests, the consistently best winter tyre performers were Continental, Dunlop and Michelin. Pretty much everyone else was one tier behind or much worse. But a lot depends on the tyre size, some brands make great 14 inch tyres, terrible 18 inche ones, some are great in wet but crap on snow etc. But the three brands I mentioned are always on the podium every year.
I have an impresa sport and I get what you mean. We had a little bit of snow in Ohio, and the roads became harder to drive, especially when is pulled out of the turn a little too fast and I could feel the car fishtailing. I think I will need winter tires now. Thanks for the video!
I have a front wheel drive 14' Fusion, I've been putting winter tires on every November It makes a WORLD of difference! I live in N.H.
3:03 It's summer tyre pattern, not all season.
exactly, I drive all season for a few years and they look pretty much the same as "winter tyre" in this test
@@KM-hc6pf AS are summer compound winters
exactly. considering that, test result was impressive. as far as i know all weather tires have to be certified for snow traction
Everybody always wants to sell you something else. If you buy everything they say you need, you couldn't make enough money to buy it all. I'm sure the winter tires are better but who can buy another set of 600 dollar tires for 1, 2 or 3 cars? I can't. we get plenty of snow here in northern Idaho, but get by just fine with good all season tread and AWD. Drive a little slower and be more cautious. They're are always cables/chains for that occasional bad one that blows in.
Fantastic video, I'd like to have see an all terrain in the mix there too like the General Grabber AT3 or BFG KO2.
I have summer and winter wheels on my Cayenne.
Thank U Subaru for showing us this 🙏🙏🙏
the test does not really compare winter tires to some proper all season tires but it does compare the winter tires to the M+S tires the subaru is equipped by factory! It is so much difference between really good all season tires and those M+S!
Test the Goodyear Vector 4 Seasons or Michelin Cross Climate and you will find them better than many average winter tires (sure they will not be equal to the best winter tires but very close)
myslecinaczej that is completely false
All weather tires are winter rated. They have the alpine snow symbol on the tire wall. With that being said they just barely make the federal government standard for qualifying as a winter rated tire..basically its a fine winter tire for most Canadian cities.
myslecinaczej This is what i wanted to say that there is a difference between crap all seasons and ones that will be better than average winter tire
Jean Philippe because the roads are often dry or covered in rain, all year long, conditions for which snow tires are worse? At least that's why I'll probably never buy dedicated tires again. My winter tires are rated to 186mph. That's the other reason.
Michelin Crosslimates are a JOKE of a tire. Awful at -20 degrees of celsius and bordeline useless. Whoever recommends these for winter conditions has never driven with proper winter tires such as Nokian Hakkapeliitta R3 or Hakkapeliitta 8 or 9.
I've NEVER bought a set of winter tires and I live in the heart of snow country. I get all seasons with the mountain/snowflake symbol. They do perfectly fine going up and down solid ice mountain roads.
Yeah but they still do much worse than a good snow tire. Just because you have gotten by doesn't mean an upgrade isn't a good idea. It could be the difference between an accident and getting home safely one day.
Put a set of bilzzaks on the Silverado a month ago. I will ALWAYS use winter ❄️ tires from now on. I stop absolutely fantastic and have not needed 4x4 yet. These freaking tires are amazing
Good comperisments, thank you.
Just remember when driving in traffic to leave plenty of room ahead of you. You may not know I have snow tires and can stop faster than you!
We have a ton of accidents where I am at as an outcome of this. The whole following distance thing in severe weather is an almost completely nonexistent concept...the basic understanding is simply lacking, and the same is true in regard to how higher performance cars with max or extreme performance summer tires can panic stop much more rapidly in warm dry and wet warm weather than a car with touring tires, but people still drive in a manner as if they believe they can modify physics...
Whitehorse, Yukon Ehhh !!!
Nicely explained. Thanks
In germany and most of europe as far as i know, its actually mandatory to have winter or AT LEAST all season tires when it gets below 0°C (aka, "the possibility of ice and snow arises"). Good thing.
I wish you had included all weather tires in the comparison. I would have been interested in the results.
they are not a replacement for proper winter tires. 4 season tire is impossible because it has to be soft when cold and have decent wear when it is warm. that is why you do not drive winter tires in summer.
I'd imagine all weather would be better then 3 season tires in winter conditions, but worse than quality winter tires. although, according to CR, the Nokian and Toyo all weather tires performed better than some dedicated winter tires.
All depends on where your driving as well, Canadian winters even are pretty different depending when you live. In Alberta you can get some really deep snow
but also get chinooks that melt everything and leave lots of black ice. Where as somewhere like Toronto or Vancouver may not get much of either.
Been using all weather tires for 3yrs now and while they're never going to beat full winter tires they are better than the all seasons or 3-season tires. All weathers are winter rated therefore the compound stays flexible during winter conditions and harden during summer. I only use Nokian brand...I also have full winter tires for my other vehicle but there is the add'l cost for the twice a year switchover and storage that's why I use all weathers on my other vehicle. Never going back to all seasons during winter!
Tek z nice to hear your enjoying them, what's the rated tred wear and grip levels on those tires? I'd be suprised if they are rated above 400.
Curiosity aside I don't think it's fair to include the cost to store and Mount them as anyone with a car jack and some space under the stairs can do that for free.
I hate the words All Seasons Tires. It fools a lot of people.
Cao Vinh Tran I call them summer tires. Even though technically a summer tire is it's own beast. I user that term because I don't trust all seasons. I'd rather run a budget winter tire than an all season.
I don't think you can argue with the science and all these test videos that have been done.
It depends where you live. In Canada they should be called three season tires. In UK they really are all season tires. In Florida... summer tire is all season tire :)
I live in Edmonton, AB, Canada and there is a lot of snow here. I know some people proud that they are "smart" to use all season tires.
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This video is a fantastic public service. Bravo!
FYI in BC: If you drive out of the the lower mainland up to Whistler or the OK, you are required to have winter tires. Occasional roadblocks are put up to check. Possible insurance issues if you have an MVI without winter tires Oct-April.