We've had the Cross Climate 2 tires on our Honda Pilot for about two weeks. I instantly noticed a marked improvement in handling over the OEM tires, with less noise. I await to see how they handle this winter, and I hope they work as advertised, and as reported by Consumers Reports and other sources. If they improve winter traction, I may place a set on my Odyssey instead of buying a set of dedicated winter tires for the vehicle. UPDATE 12/1/22: We had a three day snowstorm here a week ago, and I made a point of driving the Pilot rather aggressively when it was safe to do so, and I must say, these tires performed very well. I can't complain at all! Now, this is an AWD SUV. I don't know how they would work on my Odyssey, but I would love to try. Unfortunately, I only have about 14,000 miles on those tires, so it isn't cost effective to replace them at this point. Will update with any further observations. Update 4/24: Almost 70K on the odometer, so roughly 40K on the tires. Still going strong with regular rotations, still providing plenty of grip. I’d buy them again. Absolutely!
@Insignificant Speck Of Dust Nokia winter tyres/Finnish winter friction tyres are a total must have! The CC2? seen them around here n there (I'm in Finland), and I do wonder how they get on..
I would love to know how it handles on Pilot. I just put on old Blizzak for this coming winter. I need to purchase summer tire once spring hits. I've used Blizzaks for over 20yrs, so going Mich. brand would be interesting!
They would be good. I had them on my previous mazda3 mk3. I saw some 4x4 struggling while I was driving as if there was no snow. Just wish they would this on more sizes. I have an audi tt now, and wish they would do 20" wheels.
I have these tires on my Subaru Outback. I live on a mountain top in Colorado. It's a 6.5 mile drive to get down the mountain with 87 turns and 500 foot drop offs if you should miss a turn. While the road does get plowed regularly my driveway is about 150 feet long with a serious slope. The snow is often up to the front bumper. I made it all of last winter without using my tracked Honda snow blower even once. I was shocked. The performance is the best I had with any of my vehicles. Two thumbs up from me.
@@Columbus1492 will never buy unidirectional tyres, my friend had a jeep cherokee and when we had a puncture and the spare had to be used. Sods law it was for the wrong side. So fitted in reverse. Dangerous probably but no option.
I put these tires on my Mitsubishi Outlander a year ago. I live in Vancouver Canada, so we have lots of rain and occasional wet snow in the winter. These tires perform superbly in all of these conditions. They are also very quiet on the highway and offer exceptional handling in the summer. By far these are the best tires I ever owned.
My brother and his wife live in Portland Oregon so they too get a LOT of rain. We live in north central Washington state and get 5-7 feet of snow every winter up here in our very mountainous area. We Love the tires !
I bought these today for my rear wheel drive Dodge Challenger RT Plus, cause we got HAMMERED with snow the last 3 days here in Idaho. When I bought them from my local tire dealership, I thought I was getting an upsell. NOPE! These tires and AWESOME! And have turned my rear wheel drive Challenger back into the all weather best she is supposed to be! Great video, and great tires!!!
I bought these last fall for our Subaru Forester and they're fantastic in everything from rain,sleet, ice and snow. I always get the best tires because of how important they are as it's the interface with the road and my wife often drives like a bat out of hell. We lost a young relative a couple of years ago when it was icy out and his car spun out into an oncoming delivery truck. What I wouldn't give to go back in time and buy him a set of these tires.
As a tire mechanic, these are my favorite tires to work on. They are really easy and nice to mount. They always are low roadforce and balance with low weights.
That is the sign of high quality tire. I tell ya, after having been a tire buster myself for a couple of years in the early 90’s, I’ve come to the conclusion that Michelin makes the best tires hands down. From their snow tires to summer sport tires. They just cannot be beat.
@@twistedneck They could probably do one maybe two full years if you don't swap for summer as they are super soft, but you should easily get 5 winters out of them. I'm in Alberta and I know a few people that just rock winters all year, it just gets too hot for like 3 months and it's those months that just shred them apart. True all seasons, I'd almost always go for a Michelin if you're looking to spend Michelin $$
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Yeah big time. Hey, what about a video to see if warm tires really do work better in the snow and ice. Or a video on why some vehicles with less horsepower and torque can tow more than those with more
I've been thinking about some o these, but im trying to be frugal. So I forgot about them, but he had to upload this damn video. Man I wish they made a more "Truck Version" of the tire. No sacrificing anything for road noise, load range d, and with a little more tread depth. It would be my dream tire.
I bought these about 6 months ago for my Nissan Kicks replacing the old Firestone tires of which I had problems with in the Illinois Snow. These have literally been the best all season I've ever owned. They do great in the snow, and the main difference I found was that these are amazing in the rain. I went from hydroplaning on the slightest puddle, to being able to easily go through puddles up to an inch deep with no problem. In the end this video was the one that pushed me over the edge, and I definitely don't regret it!
What is the profile on the tires that you have? Is it ok if my vehicle requires 65 but only 55 is available? I dont think there will be mutch difference
Literally just hit black ice while accelerating and traction control didnt even come on. Drove through nearly a foot of snow also... It just doesnt make sense how they can be this good
I just put a set of CrossClimate 2's on my 2016 HR-V. I can definitively say these tires are unbelievable. The hype is real! Fantastic grip on pavement and snow. Very quiet on the highway. Excellent gas mileage. Michelin knocked it out of the park!
Don't forget to change the rear differential fluid if it's all wheel drive. Recently had a customer ruin the differential in one because they never changed it.
I’ve own a set on my 2021 Hyundai Palisade for 7 months and these are literally the best set of tires that I’ve ever owned. I immediately replaced the factory tires, Hankook’s which I don’t like from previous experience, and decided on the CrossClimate2’s after watching and reading several reviews. It’s been a great decision.
@@Lou-wy1zy yes, my HAKKAPALIETA STUDS ARE some noisy…. On my 2015 JOURNEY , FRONT WHEEL DRIVE( worth it on our miles of ice, uphills,etc: frankly, I ,maybe, should have waited for an ALL WHEEL DRIVE **Bargain, in retrospect : 4 W STUDDED, BEST)..
Do you drive in snow alot? I do. Plus I have a steep driveway. Are these effective in snow? I run two sets of wheels, one for winter another for the other seasons so these would only be used in winter.
Cross Climate 2 - The best all season tire I've ever driven. From Minnesota where we get a lot of snow. The Cross Climate 2 is so stable and controllable in all conditions. I bought mine at Costco and I now see stacks of them ready for sale in my local store. Why stacks of Cross Climate 2's? Because Costco is selling lots of them to Minnesotans who spend half the year driving in nasty conditions. Good news spreads and neighbors are telling neighbors about these great tires. I sure have spread the word. Thanks to Michelin for creating this tire.
@@wakaflockaproject Your climate gets cold enough where any summer tire, even without snow, will see really degraded performance on your coldest days as the tread compound is not optimized to perform in cold. This can, in the worst case, equate to longer breaking distances and loss of traction when cornering, or even the tire being permanently ruined. If you want a performance tire that you can use year round, I would recommend considering the Pilot Sport A/S4, which is an Ultra High Performance All Season, and has a very small amount of snow capability, and is suitable for use in dry, colder weather.
In snowy Minnesota, our roads off you! They lull you into a false sense of security by going into a store to do shopping and it’s 58 degrees out, by the time you’re done shopping it’s a foot of snow and 15.
Been using these! Love them. Big rains here when I bought them. Old tires- nervous in the higher puddles. New tires- hits every single puddle, no worrying.
Love how the pattern looks. It is such a freaking good tire for all seasons. Costco did a $150 promo and its a real steal. It never snows here in Texas but it is too good all year round.
Ummm...I'm seeing a similarity to the Goodyear "gatorbacks" of the 90s. Or tractor tires. I'm thinking noisy (?) Maybe I'll wait for more opinions from unsponsored reviewers. I have Bridgestone Duelers that I like but are worn. A bad choice for tires is something most people are stuck with for a long time so I may opt for sticking with what I already know about the Bridgestones.
I’ve had these on my Pathfinder for almost a year. They are wonderful, and quiet. My wife asked why our engine and roof racks sounded louder than usual and we realized it was because that was All we were hearing, the tire noise was incredibly reduced.
@@Doc1855 Did they smooth out the squirmy steering at highway speeds on the Forester?? That's the one thing I really dislike about my '23 Forester... steering is just very wishy-washy on the highway!
I understood nothing because the lack of a whiteboard explanation and some formulars. Now I have to google whats a tire or tyre or what this video is about
I've been using the CrossClimate tires for three years and they are fantastic. Just got a new set of the CC2 on my AWD Buick Envision back in September, and they are even better in the snow than the previous version. Sometimes it feels like I actually have snow tires on my car! I'd recommend them to anyone who lives in the snowbelt (I'm in West Michigan, so lots of lake effect snow here).
We get 5-7 feet of snow every winter here in north central Washington state. We have the Cross Climate 2 tires on both our Outback and Forester. They’re AWESOME year round tires !
Lazy and convenient. You only need to convert half the money into tyres. You might as well pick 1 set of excellent 4 seasons for less money than a mediocre set of summers and a mediocre set of winters
@@TheNasaDude not entirely true. If you use winter tires, you're increasing the lifespan of your summer/all season tires because you're not using them in the winter.
@@tylersmith4265 of course it's not recommended to drive with all 8 tires installed at the same time. I wonder if duallies can legally mount winters on the external wheel only? Jokes aside sure, you get more or less the same total lifetime from any set of tires, at least for normal cars. But total cost of ownership will be lower on 4 seasons because you don't need to swap, store, balance and fit them 2 times a year, or buy a second set of rims. You also buy 1 set at a time, so cash flow is lower. More money remains in your pockets for longer and you can use it for other tasks until you buy the second set
@@billyracks yes, you get the same mileage out of any set of tyres. This as an approximation, but a fair one IMHO. The difference is that if you want summer and winter tyres, you must buy them at the same time or at best within 6 months of eavh other. With 4 seasons you buy another set after the 1st is used, so usually after a 3-4 years. Might not be the best technical solution, but it makes sense from a financial point of view. For tje same total mileage, you make a smaller investment twice, instead of a big investment once. This also means that if you don't like your tyres, you only wait half the time before replacing them.
Just found this review of the CrossClimate2 tires and I’m glad I watched it. I replaced my worn out Bridgestone Ecopias on my car in December with these very tires. I was impressed by the traction improvements in what little snow we had. Now I’m starting to experience wet weather driving. So far these are the best tires I’ve ever had on a car. I’m planning on installing a set on the wife’s van we bought used a year ago. The tires are reasonably new, but she complained about poor traction in the snow. These will definitely fix that issue. Thanks for the honest review. It makes me feel good about this purchase, especially for what they cost.
The attribute that I expected least from this tire is handling grip on dry pavement. While I’ve only had the tires a year, they are possibly the best all season tire I’ve driven in my 49 years of driving.
I bought these for my son's first car (old Subaru Impreza) before seeing this, now I feel like I made great choice. Way cheaper than buying both a winter and summer tire, plus I don't have to store them and swap them twice a year. Lazy is smart. We some snow recently so I put them to the test. Stopped on a step grade on the side of the road with no tracks. Then drove right out of it. These are the real deal.
Thanks,McKee THANK YOU for comments, ..HOW are these in BLACK,ICEING, SNOW PACKS, -30F,METC?? .(**;i,am still NOKIAN STUDS, SWITCHING BACK ,ETC)..:ps we do love my STUDS!,( actually NOKIAN SUV SUMMERS BEEN GOOD)
We have had the plus on my wife’s 2008 highlander hybrid. We currently have 389,000 miles on it. We have only bought Michelins LTx until we bought the cross climate about 6 months ago. It has been nothing short of outstanding in all weather conditions. As with all Michelins they are a little more pricey. But we have gotten as high as 85k on a set before they hit the wear bars. Just rotate them and keep air pressure right. In addition no more road noise than the prior Michelins. Very quiet.
We own an Outback and a Forester Touring. We get 5-7 feet of snow every winter and were looking for a year round tire for our Subaru’s. We chose the Michelin Cross Climate 2 tires. We’ve found them to be exceptionally great tires. They’re Awesome on dry, wet, slushy and snow covered roads. Their a quiet tire and they don’t cut down on our mileage. We liked them so much that we’ve recommended them to our family who lives in Montana, USA where they get just as much snow as we do here in north central Washington state. I was talking to my brother (who he and his wife live in Portland Oregon) and they get a LOT of rain. He laughed and said that they also have the Cross Climate 2 tires on their Outback. They’re not a good off road tire but are fine on forest and logging roads. When they wear out, we’ll replace them with another set of 4. Thanks Michelin for making such an amazing 4 season tire.
@@vontrap6942 The Michelin Cross Climate 2 tires are Awesome for all road conditions, except for serious off roading. They’re great on logging and forest roads as well. For serious off roading, we take our 4WD pickup with Cooper Discoverer A/T tires. I simply put 240# of sand bags over the rear axle of our pickup for extra traction during our very snowy winter months.
@@ImEpicc sure, but then you notice you pads are worn so you're like we'll I don't want to do them in the winter so I'll do them now, while doing them you notice you have some play in you upper ball joint and you think we'll I already have the tire off and the car jacked I might as well
I have these on our 14 Flex AWD. Absolutely awesome. Dead silent, and great grip. It's so nice not having to bother with swapping tires in the spring and then again in the fall.
This is the exact type of tire I need driving between Nevada and California for work. The snow conditions crossing over the mountain and the dry transitions would make this tire the best choice.
@@garbagetrash2938 I haven't. I went with michelin pilot all weather due to possible clearance issues and availability. It is winter rated. If I had to choose again I would go with these for winter mountain driving. The pilot sports are amazing but I still need to use chains.
Drove a Passat with these on an icy road in Nebraska a year ago and was so impressed I bought a set for my in-laws CR-V as well as my wifes vehicle. They fit our Nebraska needs so well its hard to think of another tire that is even close. We’ll see how they hold up of course, but even if I only get 40k out of them I’ll probably buy another set. Dont skimp when it comes to safety
I just didnt get how he said that they have a compound similar to a winter compound, yet they're all seasons. Sounded to me like they would wear like crazy, and the reviews say they do. How are yours holding up this summer?
@@rabidlenny7221 Thanks for asking! We have about 10K miles on my wife’s set (2005 CR-V)and about 12K on my in-laws (2018 CR-V). So far they are wearing just fine. Its still too early to know for sure how they will do long term but so far I am very happy with them. I think these tires are extremely sensitive to alignment issues and need frequent rotations (though, they can only go from front to rear since theyre directional) or else they’ll wear unevenly and be toast. I really only expect to get 40k miles out of them anyways. Id much rather be confident my wife and baby will be able to stop in the winter than get 80K miles out of a Michelin Defender. Ill happily buy another set if my opinion doesnt change before then.
@@clintonbartek1413 Agreed man! Just curious but im glad theyre workign out for you. I considered them too but they dont make them in the sizes needed for an s2000. The one thing was that they look like they have almost no groves really for lateral grip.. Im sure the fluid dynamics of slush are complex lol. So they might have plenty of lateral grip.. but that was one thing I was wondering about too
@@rabidlenny7221 nice dude, believe it or not I have an S2k as well!! I went with Michelin Pilot Sport 4S on that last year and they are *chefs kiss* fabulous. However, it will never see a flake of snow, so I dont worry about winter with that one!
@@clintonbartek1413 Haha yeah, its my daily, used to live in NJ but now live in VT... gonna have to figure something out for winter. Went with the Contiential DWS 06+'s. A really nice all season. I don't track it, although I would really like to. I do a lot of hiking, and with snow coming, in the same way you bought these michelins, I thought that was the "safest" tire. Would love to be machismo and say I bought summer tires cause I track it! But I dont, so I thought I'd be real with myself. I do enjoy drifting it on dirt roads though lol. And of course you have an S2K!! Game recognize game as they say :)
I have been using them from December 2021 till today in Greece so I have experienced relatively mild weather conditions. They are quite soft and silent and they seem to provide a decent grip in all surfaces as long as you do not push them. During this summer I have decided to put them to a cornering test in high temperatures and my Passat cc would wiggle in every corner .. I would say that it is a family man's tyre and probably that's what it was designed for.
i have them for 4 years now, arround 30000 km, excelent in summer, wet, half decent in winter - meaning once you get going they are ok, getting out of snow, they spin a lot not gripping, but is normal not beign a dedicated winter tire. Overall? beign lazy they are worth every penny just dont get your hopes up. Ah and wear? 40000 km are more than enough not like the vide says 50k mils or 60k miles in their dreams :))
I work at discount tire and we just recently started getting these in. When I first saw it I definitely noticed it had a funky look. Customers seem happy with though they balance easy.
Discount tire my favorite tire spot. Free rotation for the life of the tires. I bought these for my wife's car. They're pretty good in the wet. These replaced some continental DWS03
Same, work at Discount, people rarely buy them but maybe this will get them more sales who knows. As long as they're better quality than most of the rest of Michelin. Been having quality issues for a bit now.
@@thegoodson2000 I actually had great results with the premier A/S. So much so I ran through two sets on my 09 Honda Accord LX-P getting 60k miles each time. Though my alignment was proper and tires were rotated every 6k miles. Sorry for your loss though.
Just bought these for my VW GTI in Minnesota. Only have about 1500k on the tires and honestly are the best all season tires I have purchased. Great in the snow, quite, and drive great on dry roads. Strange looking tire and was hesitant to buy, but I like Michelin tires and the tire shop recommended them. I recently been watching reviews on these tires and can confirm, that if you drive in any snow, these are the best all seasons to get.
Great tyre. Have them on the wife's Subaru Outback all year round, and I swap out the PS4S for these in winter (as I don't need a full winter tyre). Always tempted to leave them on all year, but my car is somewhat sportier than the Outback and does benefit from the PS4S
@@northjerseykevin409 I've got a M340i currently on CrossClimate. They're good. Comfy. soft, not that noisy, good in cold temps that we get south of England. But I don't feel that they grip in the corners anywhere near as good as the PS4S. Adequate but not as confidence inspiring. I found the PS4S lost that grip on cold damp roads, so was happy to swap. But I'll definitely be swapping back to them when it warms up. Guess it depends on car and driving style. Like I said the wife's Outback is a blancmange that wouldn't benefit from PS4S so CrossClimate all year for her. She also drives sedately. So if you drive like "Driving Miss Daisy" then also not much benefit.
@@CM.243 thank you very much for the response. I completely understand what you’re saying. I have a BMW also. Only drove it once on a cold damp morning and it definitely not happy in those conditions but rips on summer day. After a lot of reviews I’m learning I can’t get the best of both worlds. I’m thinking maybe the cross climate will become my winter tire and if I’m not satisfied when it warns up I’ll look into a set of summer tires. Thanks again for sharing your thoughts.
My 15 000km experience on these (CC+) is that those are decent summer tyres with great wet grip on near icing temperature. It is decent on snow on acceleration and braking and its achilles heel is slow speed maneuvering on snow, probably due to lack of sipes. It does not wear fast during summer and noise level is quite low. I will probably buy another set when these are done. Yes I use separate winter tyre for winter but these will shorten my winter tyre season by couple of months as wear resistance and clear road handling in these is great compared to really soft nordic winter tyre. But really not even close on snow and ice when winter really starts.
I'm really happy to see you mention these tires. I bought them the advice of a Renault dealer and I'm happy to see that their advice was worth the price.
@@Larcona_ Good question. 40 years ago they were the only affordable premium tire. I bought them at Sears (Canada). Now I buy them at Costco in Tennessee; the sales guys tell me they are quiter and softer and brake in shorter distances than the comparable Goodyears (but probably don't last as long). That's reflected in online reviews. Probably makes no real difference; I drive a Camry.
@@10tenman10 They are just so damn expensive. I'm a tire guy. Michelin is by far the best, but not everyone can afford them. I have Coopers on my truck and really like them. I live in an area with no snow so I purchased the highway tread for my Ram 1500. (OE is 275/60r20). After 30,000 miles they are holding up nicely (plus Arnold Palmer likes them, anything Arnold Palmer endorses is okay by me.) Coopers are on Air Force one and the space shuttle. I would rather have Michelin but they just cost too much. From 1981 to 1997 I was firmly entrenched in the tire business and I never EVER saw the failure of a Michelin. I would rarely see a Goodyear, Kelly, or Nitto fail either. What I saw fail for no reason was Pirelli, BFG, Firestone, and General. These are just my observations after 16 years of seeing over 200 tires pass through my workplace every day. Michelin is obviously the best.
@@paulh7589 agree with your comment. I have had Coopers and liked them a lot. I have never had any problems with Michelins (apart from nail puncture holes which I have had repaired).
I purchased CrossSeason 2 tires at Costco in the USA. Got four 20 inch rim tires for my Lexus 450h. Cost about $950. Tire rides quiet, excellent handling, great braking. Replaced Bridgestone Ecopia, grateful I had to do the replacement as I have a far superior tire now.
I actually wanted to smack his face when he said that... Made me loose the respect I had. People driving on "all season" tires all year round should be kicked in the nuts.
@@RobWhittlestonesince the vast majority of consumers don’t try different tires with the same vehicle at the approx same mileage since tires last 50k or so miles, doesn’t that mean you’re very limited on the conclusions you can actually draw from your experience? (Biology and psych by training, not by trade).
@@rkuoch1 Hi Robert - I agree - I think average consumers don't do this. They pick by price and maybe performance criteria like wet grip and noise and choose the best of a mediocre bunch. But car nerds possibly have several vehicles (I have two and my wife has one) and may have more opportunities to change. I just got some new ones on my sports car because the rears had been unevenly worn through misalignment - so there was a new choice right there. If I'm happy with my choice I'll stay with them and get the other 2 replaced, if not, I'll replace all of them next spring. There my criteria will be different from my wife's or from my long-distance spacious wagon - I'll want summer grip wet/dry and steering to be good, fuel economy no issue but noise should not be excessive but need not be whisper quiet. Do you see what I mean? All the best, Rob
these will never ever be nearly as good as dedicated winter tires. If ice/snow is a genuine concern of yours, don't bother getting any all-weather tires.
@@gwot Don't be so sure. Reputable tests have indicated that some all-weather tires outperform some dedicated winter tires in snow. Times have changed and these types of tires are a game changer.
@@georgeedwards5173 yes, the best all-weather tire can out perform the worst winter tire in SOME areas, I've seen those tests too. But when it comes to the extreme, as in extreme cold, or wet ice, the dedicated winter Sipes and softer compound will still win. I do not believe we're at the point where we can have the best of both worlds in one tire. I also don't believe the same manufacturer will make an all-weather better than dedicated winters. Again, all-weather tires have no place if you see ice and snow and Extreme cold for more than half a year.
My wife's Suzuki SX4 does fine in the Alberta winters with the CC's but this year we bought Winter tires because of increased driving and its a big jump in improvement of confidence while driving. I think if you live in places where you get some snow but its not constant like some places in the east US and in a place like Vancouver that All Weathers(3peaks) can be ok, but they will be only passable in other places with harsher winters.
I was curious and I installed the CrossClimate+ on my Kia Optima when the short-lived Michelin factory tires wore out. They perform well even in light snow, but they notably decreased the fuel economy -- at least according to the onboard computer.
Thanks for posting this. I'm considering this tire for my Honda Accord, but I think it might be overkill for my local road conditions. I don't know if I'll make up for the lost mpg by driving it on a few skiing trips per year instead of my other AWD, less fuel efficient vehicle.
I had michelin cross climate as a all season here in Iceland. They are awsome lasted me 3.5 years and wouldve lasted longer i am sure if i had noticed earlier that i had to adjust my steering wheels. Which were unbalanced and ruined them early. They are amazing in snow and wet snow and slob and so good in rain, here in Iceland our roads are not great and we get deep tire marks where rain just turns into rivers. Was no issue to drive on the cross climate. And omg they are so quiet, i have a suzuki vitara 2017, its like a beer can when it comes to sound proof.. but those tires made it quiet and soothing. I recomend cross climate from Michelin anyday ! Ill stick with that version always ^^, Ps. I drive on average 30.000km a year so 3.5 years they still had decent tracks after 105.000 kms i drive a lot of just long distance drive.
The guy at costco told me these are for summer only...thats why they dont have em...imagine my surprise. Live in iceland as well and looking for the best.
Lol. Nothing happens to your steering wheel. Its the joints/bushings that get wore out and off center which in turn makes your steering wheel feel off to keep to the vehicle centered down the road.
@@ProjectExMachina right. I was expecting like all terrain-levels of tread growl but honestly not bad. Good to know I shouldn’t attack snow drifts with these, but on a plowed road should be fine, right?
@@S1MN05 Yup. Compacted snow is good. Deep snow is tricky. One of the good things about this climate change is that I don't need dedicated winter tire anymore.
In the winter I always have driven with Bridgestone Blizzak winter tires and they are by far the number one in the industry. I have switched to these Michelin‘s and the best thing about them as they wear totally even as the tread wears down. Amazingly superior in the rain. Great in snow, dry and they are quiet. Highly recommended
Blizzals are definitely good winter tires and I am looking forward to trying these Cross Climate 2s which I put on in early June as my original all seasons are worn out ( 3/32nds tread depth and the winters I use from late October to late April ( 3 1/2 winters ) were under 5/32s. Winter 2023 /24 I will buy the new ( got a set for my wife's car in Fall 2019 ) Michelin Ice and Snow which I would put up against a Blizzak any day. They are quiet, dig through deeper snow, push slush away better than any winter tire I've ever had and stick well on compact snow / ice all without negative effects on fuel consumption. Give a set of those a try ( I got the ones for my wife's car at 25% off at one of Canada's largest "tire retailers".
@@alexwill3722 that’s funny. I actually have the cross climate 2’s on my car. So last winter I drove them in the snow and they did pretty decent. Obviously not as good as the Blizzacks but they did a pretty decent job. And they are clase A in the rain for sure. The good thing about them is they wear evenly all the way down. Definitely nice tires
I've had a few sets of Blizzaks, they are wonderful when new but seem to lose their edge after a few thousand miles and then are just mediocre. I'm a far bigger fan of the Good Year Ultra Grip Ice. It's got all the traction of the Blizzaks but far better wearing and works better on packed snow which is a big portion of my winter driving.
Nokian WR series tyres revolutionized “all weather” (vs all season) with three peak winter certification over a decade ago. I’m happy to see Michelin get into this category for North America.
I’ve tried Nokian Weatherproof and I was very impressed with it on the snow, now I’m on Michelin CC. I think Nokian is better on snow but does wear off quicker and a bit noisier compared to Michelin.
@@DaveBenson I don't know how Nokian compare with the Michelins but I had WR G3 on my Outback and they were pretty good all weather tires. Now on my Ascent I have Goodyear Assurance WeatheReady and to my surprise the Goodyears are much better than the Nokians especially on ice and in deep slush.
I'm running WRG4s right now but haven't had serious winter weather to test them. A fine tire otherwise, would like a little more wet grip though. Cross climates look appealing.
@@trails3597 Central Europe with a few weeks of mild snow and freezing temperatures a year and the tire performed very good in these conditions (as well as summer and rain). If you live in the mountains or somewhere with heavy snow more than a few weeks a year, i'd still recommend more agressive winter tires.
@Engineering Explained I, for one, would love to hear your long term experience with these, especially with respect to tread wear. It's great to hear a engineering oriented forensic analysis done well. Thank you !
I’m on Cross Climate + for 3.5 years now with a rear wheel drive. I got them while living in New England before winter, which provides opportunity. I have 32 K on them with plenty of tread still. When they were knew, I drove on the interstate at night in a huge downpour. You couldn’t see the road or the lanes, as the water was collecting on the road and it was in the country. I slowed down to 40 just because, but honestly, they cut through the water so well, I couldn’t even feel it. One cut on them was there was noticeable noise at low speeds that would disappear once you sped up. After some thousands of miles it went away. I don’t know if the 2 still has that. I have a Lexus LS, which are phenomenally quiet so it was significant. They did well on both snow and ice through one winter. With a rear wheel, I didn’t push it. Before this I went through two sets of Michelin Primacy’s on a Lexus ES. To me, these were just as nice to drive on. Once broken in, just as quiet (again, I have a very quiet car that may fudge that, but I read a review that said they were pretty equal). I discovered them before they were really popular here and watching reviews from European channels that tested them in big snow in Northern Europe and raves about them.
I'd think the tread contact area would go from oval-to-rectangle making the disapating stearing feel and increasing to hydroplaneing .The first noticeable as the tire wears.
The Cross Climate 2s have tread "grooves" that "widen" slightly as they wear down so less depth but a wider "groove" equals or should equal similar water / slush performance. These are rated as 100,000 to 110,000 km??? which is 60,000 to 70,000 miles. It would ne a miracle to get anywhere near that but 60 to 70,000 kms ( 40 ton 45,000 miles ) shouldn't be that hard to achieve and is pretty good for a tire that will grip in snow a lot better than an all season tire ( they call these all seasons but they are an All WEATHER tire . All Seasons are actually 3 season Tires. Wear depends on how you drive, how you are with keeping the tire pressures correct, whether you drive with heavy loads, high speeds. trailer pulling and if you "rotate" the tires every 4,000-5,000 miles ( in this case with directional tires it's simply moving fronts to back and backs to front ). 99% of people brake too hard, accelerate too fast, and don't check tire pressures correctly or at all.
Came here to say I bought these for my mom and sis after watching this video. Mom has a FWD Lexus and sis a CR-V. Awesome tires in the snow on both cars so far after two NE snowstorms, and no more swapping winter/summer wheels
I've done 20k, on the original Cross Climates. One thing that you have missed is the stone pick ups. They get jammed in the Grove, great for not wearing rubber, but have become very noisy. I get a worr worr worr annoying noise now, and have to de stone quite frequently. I'm thinking of changing to the X Climate 2, or to re balance to see if this changes? These are expensive tyres.
Worse than the stone pickup characteristics are the nail, screw, bolt, and washer pickup characteristics that I have read about. Lots of tire damage even if you do not get a road hazard warranty covered puncture. Very concerning as even some of the most generous road hazard warranties eventually will quit providing coverage after too many punctures have to be fixed with full inside the tire patches and inside the tire plugs. I am believing that the new Bridgestone Weather Peak TPMSF(Three Peak Mountain Snow Flake) tires might be a better choice.
I have the cross climate 2 on my Lexus. Love the snow traction. Only thing I noticed is how much mud, and road slop it flicks onto my car when turns are made. Also, on gravel roads, it carries the small stones for quite a while. Thinking about putting them on my Tacoma. I like Mechelin tires.
When I first saw this tire I had doubts if it will work in snow. However my tire change was during snow, and I have checked them on the spot. They work perfectly.
We just put on my wife's Siena awd minivan. They are great! She had those run flats which sucked and were noisy. The CC2 are quiet and she gained 4-5 mpg on her highway mileage! Best tire we ever bought!
@@craigcontofalsky4387 I'm in BC, the Fraser Valley, with a Siena awd minivan. I want to head into the mountains for snowboarding from time to time. Will these tires get me up to Hemlock? I would love to know. If they do I can get them. Secondly, would they be fuel efficient in the summer? So then no need for yearly tire changing. This tire would cover all! I am trying to decide whether I should change to winter tires every season, or get these and be done.
These came with C40 (CrossClimate 2 SUV) and I wanted to try them out. Changed just as we got "one more blizzard". And I can confirm. These are amazing! Almost as good as Continental Viking Contact 7 studless tires. That's saying a lot! Going to keep these well into the winter. Nicely done Michelin!
@@alejandrohector4528 oh don't get me wrong. They can't replace VCs. With - 20° and 100km/h I wouldn't trust CC2s. But with mild weather and city speeds they are excellent. No need to worry if first snow comes at night and you're still rocking CC2s. They buy you time to change to prober winter tyres. Studs or no.
Spot on, this is an excellent tyre. I've driven diesel Passats for the last 17 years with Michelin Primacy Pilots. Now I'm retired and I'm a Community Driver in the Scottish Highlands taking people from remote glens to hospital appointments in the lowlands so I can't let them down on a snowy morning. With the Cross-Climates at 37 psi the car drives better than any I've had in the last 17 years and in snowy or icy conditions it never falters. At a higher pressure than with the PPs the tyres don't feel harsh, probably thanks to a softer compound but the higher pressure improves general handling. I get 61 mpg on long trunk road drives with a bit of motorway. The compound contains more silicon; you can feel it and the gravel on my drive sticks to them. Noise is no worse than the Primacy Pilots and on our frequently flooded roads they never feel vague. While the traction is superb I have a small doubt about lateral grip but that may be because I'm cornering less timidly on snow than I would have done on the PPs. The only thing that stops the Passat is snow deeper than a foot, which builds up in front and blocks the car. My wife has an XC60 with the same tyres and it's unstoppable in snow thanks to higher ground clearance and 4WD. We had a lot of fun in the Volvo during the December snow. Wear seems no worse than on the regular summer tyres, again maybe because I'm a private motorist now paying for my fuel and carrying old folk so I'm not caning the car but after a year at about 1000 miles a month there's still a full 7mm of tread on the front tyres. So yes, an excellent tyre, the best I've had in 47 years of mixed condition driving in the French Alps, northern England and Scotland.
I put these on my wife’s ‘15 Ford Edge. They have amazing traction on the Minnesota snow & ice! Was a little worried that they would be loud on the hwy, but surprisingly quiet. Seem to be a great tire so far
Be curious to see how they do on ice. I'll take dedicated winter tires any day. Switching them and storage is a pain, but not half as much as a collision would be.
I live in Denver, so one day we will have a foot of snow then two days later, the roads are dry again and it doesn't snow for two weeks. I can't imagine running studded snow tires here. However, when I lived in Missouri where we would have ice storms and black ice nearly all winter, I can't imagine NOT running studded snow tires.
I have a competitor 4 season tire- Firestone Weathergrips. Feel the same on snow as a dedicated winter tire, on ice Weathergrips split the difference between 3 season tires and dedicated Winter tires. I feel confident using these 4 season tires all year here in Calgary where we have 7 months of snow :) Micheline Cross Climate+ are probably similar in winter and very good the rest of the year.
@@zzanatos2001 Yep--I'm just north of you. I have run studless winter tires on my Outback, but 3PMS rated all season is really nice since the snow is so sporadic. I have Cooper EnduraMax, but these are a cooler looking tire at least. I haven't tested mine in significant snow yet.
They perform very well on ice. Watch some testing done. The tests I've seen they actually perform better on ice than some cheaper dedicated winter tires,which is a impressive feat. This is also what personal experience have shown, I actually skid less on ice in my car on my all season tires than I do in the company cars dedicated winter tires with about same tire size. (I've used the European crossclimate+ version for the past 3 years.)
You also have to factor in that "not half as much a pain as a collision would be" Keep in mind that during winter, not everyone is on ice 100% of the time. These may outperform wintertires on dry, slurry or wet roads during winter season. Have yet to find good testing videos on this topic.
Great video and it confirms what I have found out for myself. I put a set of the Cross Climate 2s on my AWD Acura MDX and they are absolutely the best tire I've ever run on this vehicle. They are quieter than the Goodyear tires that were originally on the vehicle. Plus the feel and handling is hands down better than it has ever been.
Same here! I have 2 Acura MDX’s, (2003 Tech and 2013 Advance), and the Ross climates are great on my 2003! I use the Forcinium Heptagons for my 2013. Those are even better off-road!
I have to say - I am about a week late finding out about these tires. I live in North Dakota so winters suck for driving, and I just got a second set of wheels with snows mounted for winter. Had I known this tire was out there, I might have saved myself the hassle of two sets of wheels and tires each year. That said, I’m extremely happy with how they perform in the snow. I think when it comes time for a new set of all seasons I’m going to really be looking at these!
Shoot04 don't be to hard on yourself ,if your winters are extremely bad with snow and cold temperatures for long periods ,The full winter tyre is the correct choice, These Michelin are perfect for milder climates like southern uk and lower Scotland , the Highlands of Scotland and northern Europe may require a greater tyre for winter
Just bought these for UK use. Basically need to be confident in wet winters, able to get around in occasional few-inches-of-snow, and there's a few major hills nearby on main roads that get blocked by summer tyre people so being able to climb on untreated minor roads will be fantastic.
Hmm this looks like a good tire for where I live in Oregon. Down in the valleys in the winter we typically just get a lot of rain, rarely snow. But driving between cities or towns, or out to/from the coast you may cross some higher elevations which get heavy wet snow. That and we also have plenty of dirt, gravel, or sand trails too if you like to explore a bit. Something like this looks like it would be a great jack of all trades, and probably superior than all season tires on loose surface conditions. I'll have to keep these in mind.
I have these tires mounted on 17x7.5 wheels on my mk7 Golf R and just drove all weekend in a blizzard in northern Vermont... they're amazing. I was straight tearing up the steep snowy back roads so easily. And they feel good in the dry as well. I initially planned to get a second set of wheels to run summer tires, but now I see no reason to ever take these things off the golf.
@@jasonrodriguez5210 FYI: The Golf R is AWD whereas the GTI is FWD. Me personally, I always buy full sets of tires and rotate appropriately to keep them wearing down evenly throughout their life cycle. The exception being if I get a puncture in a tire early on; then I'll just replace the one tire.
Exactly what I was thinking. I was wondering if Goodyear's patent had expired for Michelin to make such an obvious near-copy of that tread pattern design.
They look really similar to a lot of all-season tyres. I suppose that's because the self-clearing tread patterns are all going to end up looking similar. Vredestein, Hankook and Goodyear all make tyres with patterns similar to these Michelins. And they all look like a tractor tyre when you over-simplify the tread design. Simply because new muck entering the pattern at the start of the contact patch will force muck currently in the contact patch out of the side of the tread pattern. If you want a all-season tyre that's mostly good in rain, handles the salted slush well and has decent performance in summer, it's very hard to get away from a tread pattern like this, because physics.
After an intense amount of research, I put these Cross Climate² on all four tire rims of my Accord Hybrid. I took a hit on mileage, even when you account for the drop due to batteries in colder weather, but I am satisfied because the crazy snow storms in the northeast the last 2 months were not a problem at all. Even when small SUVs got stuck, I rolled right on by *uphill* even in several inches of tire-packed (and unpacked) snow. Hydroplaning resistance is outstanding as well. I would call these the safest tires out there anywhere. Plus Costco has them which ROCKS!
I bought these tires about two months ago, and I can confirm they are awesome! I live in NW Pennsylvania, and we get a TON of snow (usually in the top 3 US cities every year). These things are about 10x better in snow than my old Continental all seasons that came on my 2018 VW. I was worried about them being loud, but they're actually noticeably quieter on the highway than my old tires. We'll see how long they hold up, but I'd definitely recommend them and would buy them again!
@@LeftenantMalachi I don't see much of this dry weather you mentioned. They stopped pretty well when a bunny ran out in front of my car a few weeks ago. I wouldn't take them to a track day if that's what you mean by "pushed to the limit."
I love this tread pattern on my high roof transit van. I drive in one of the highest snow regions in the US(Wasatch Mountains) with RWD. These things totally do the job
What would be your advice in driving in light and deep snow?? How fast would you drive in both conditions? Finally, how would you handle braking in both type of conditions?
@@bigdaddyc7266 picking speeds can't really be done because snow is different from region to region, and even storm to storm. The best thing to do though is only driving Xmph if you know you can stop your car from that speed on the road you're driving
@@veganpotterthevegan I live in New York and recently bought a Lincoln Town car. It was in good shape and a good price, so I bought it. I'm a new driver and rarely drive in snow storms. Trying to get the most advice I can get before I decide to tackle snow storms on my Lincoln Thank u.
@@bigdaddyc7266 I wouldn't drive it in deep snow without winter tires. But for roads that are plowed often you shouldn't have a problem. I have a Grand Marquis, that is almost the same car you have and didn't have a problem driving in Connecticut last winter. Some people put weight in the trunk to give more traction to the rear tires. And if you are stuck in deeper snow, put the transmission in 2 instead of "drive". The car would start moving in second gear and you may avoid spinning that way.
@@bigdaddyc7266 You can drive as fast as any other cars in snow. And breaking is good enough a but you have to press the pedal slowly and earlier than without snow. Handling is decent. I guess being a heavy car helps in these conditions
I agree that these are fantastic, all-season tires. Previously I had always installed a set of Blizzaks for the winter months but, I got fed up of the hassle of swapping them out. Decided to try a 'one tire does all' after reading all the reviews.Had them on a VW Touareg here in the snow belt for 2 years and they performed very well indeed. Drove from west Michigan to Utah, and back, twice for skiing vacations and they handled great on dry, wet, icey and snow-covered roads. I had total confidence in them. They were quiet, smooth and composed. The only drawback was the exceptionally poor longevity. After only 17,000 miles, they were causing all sorts of handling issues and had to be replaced. Paying $1,200 for a set of 4 tires that only last 17,000 miles sucks! It might be a better situation with other vehicles as 'posthumous' research highlighted low tire life as a known issue with Touaregs and Audi Q7s.
I live in Central IL, really can't justify the expense of a set of winter tires; never really know how much snow we're going to get. Sorry the CC 2's didn't last longer. I have about 8,000 on mine - so far!
We’ve had no problems with them prematurely wearing out. We have them on both our Outback and Forester. We rotate them with every 5K mile oil change. They’re wearing normal for us.
Watching this is like having a conversation with myself about tires because nobody wants to talk about tires with me as much as I want to talk about tires with me.
Then check out Tyre Reviews. Founder and presenter, Jonathan, is also very active in comment section. Right now, he is on a American tour, reviewing UHP all season tyres
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I know what you mean. For years I cleaned toilets that I would never be using. Just remember that those tires are very important to the people they end up with, and perhaps indirectly they're grateful for your part in getting the tires out to them. I'm grateful for all of you guys that make shipments possible, and especially so during this COVID.
@@discerningmind sorry, didnt see the response, I try to treat every package like its mine, cant say that about everyone at my location though! Thanks for the thanks and happy holidays!
Perfect tire for cold climates with moderate snow or urban areas with more snow that are frequently plowed. Massive snow/ice grip improvement over all seasons.
I have these tires. One other downside to these are when you want to rotate them. Since they are directional it limits your rotating options without switching wheels. Still love them
That’s a deal breaker for me. I’ve always bought Michelin tires for my wife’s RX 350 and I have gotten good long life out of them by rotating the tires every 7,500 miles.
On radial tires you should only change from front to back keep the left on the left &right on the right anyway only bias ply tires can be rotated side to side
Most "good" tires these days are directional...tread patterns have improved significantly in the last 10 years and almost all are now directional because it works better.
In North America, this Crossclimate "all-season" tire is known as an all-weather tire, as regular all-seasons here aren't 3-peaks-mountain-snow-flake approved (all seaons here are in fact 3-season tires). In EU, all-seasons == all-weather.
1) Reminds me a lot of Goodyear's early Aquatred innovations (1980's?) 2) The 3-peak Euro tire certification is *huge*, and I can't believe that even in the northern US, such a rating is not the norm. Great compromise between winter and summer or even all-season tires! 3) I think I may have found my new tires!
Yep, Goodyear Aquatred was what I immediately thought of. I used to run those and then the Aquatred 2. Not sure why they discontinued them. Maybe the invention of ABS?
I've had a set of Crossclimates on my Subaru Legacy for a couple of years now. Certainly good in snow and on dry roads, but they really shine going through water without hydroplaning. I haven't noticed any more road noise than with any other tire.
This is great for me as I just picked up my Legacy XT touring last week and want to switch out the tires as I'm not a fan of Yokohama. I've ordered a set to be installed next week
Had my CC2's two winters now, and i still love them! Had plenty of snow here in middle part of Sweden and they work great in deep snow and slushy weather. I think AWD is a must though.
We've had the Cross Climate 2 tires on our Honda Pilot for about two weeks. I instantly noticed a marked improvement in handling over the OEM tires, with less noise. I await to see how they handle this winter, and I hope they work as advertised, and as reported by Consumers Reports and other sources. If they improve winter traction, I may place a set on my Odyssey instead of buying a set of dedicated winter tires for the vehicle.
UPDATE 12/1/22: We had a three day snowstorm here a week ago, and I made a point of driving the Pilot rather aggressively when it was safe to do so, and I must say, these tires performed very well. I can't complain at all! Now, this is an AWD SUV. I don't know how they would work on my Odyssey, but I would love to try. Unfortunately, I only have about 14,000 miles on those tires, so it isn't cost effective to replace them at this point. Will update with any further observations.
Update 4/24: Almost 70K on the odometer, so roughly 40K on the tires. Still going strong with regular rotations, still providing plenty of grip. I’d buy them again. Absolutely!
@Insignificant Speck Of Dust Nokia winter tyres/Finnish winter friction tyres are a total must have! The CC2? seen them around here n there (I'm in Finland), and I do wonder how they get on..
let us know how it goes in ice n snow!
I would love to know how it handles on Pilot. I just put on old Blizzak for this coming winter. I need to purchase summer tire once spring hits. I've used Blizzaks for over 20yrs, so going Mich. brand would be interesting!
They would be good. I had them on my previous mazda3 mk3. I saw some 4x4 struggling while I was driving as if there was no snow. Just wish they would this on more sizes. I have an audi tt now, and wish they would do 20" wheels.
I read somewhere that this set pick up screw and nails easier on the road. Have you run into any incidents?
I have these tires on my Subaru Outback. I live on a mountain top in Colorado. It's a 6.5 mile drive to get down the mountain with 87 turns and 500 foot drop offs if you should miss a turn. While the road does get plowed regularly my driveway is about 150 feet long with a serious slope. The snow is often up to the front bumper. I made it all of last winter without using my tracked Honda snow blower even once. I was shocked. The performance is the best I had with any of my vehicles. Two thumbs up from me.
What about rotating these..? Is it okay to rotate tires only from the front to the back of the car instead of cross corners?
@@Columbus1492 That is your only option since they are directional. As long as they evenly wear, you should be ok.
@@Universal.G thanks. I have these on my car and they are still looking great even though they have 30k on them already
If you drive a Subaru, it doesn't even matter what tyres you on... or if you have any tyres on 😅😅😅
@@Columbus1492 will never buy unidirectional tyres, my friend had a jeep cherokee and when we had a puncture and the spare had to be used. Sods law it was for the wrong side. So fitted in reverse. Dangerous probably but no option.
Michelin: "Aww yis, free advertising"
EE: "These are GOOD YEAR round tires!"
Michelin: "Noooooo!"
GOT EM!
As opposed to square 'Mythbuster' tires, perhaps? LOL.
Nothing free about it.
@@richardnavratil9661 how are they
@Richch 💵🤑🤤🤑💰 Navrátil
Ba-bamm!!💥
I put these tires on my Mitsubishi Outlander a year ago. I live in Vancouver Canada, so we have lots of rain and occasional wet snow in the winter. These tires perform superbly in all of these conditions. They are also very quiet on the highway and offer exceptional handling in the summer. By far these are the best tires I ever owned.
My brother and his wife live in Portland Oregon so they too get a LOT of rain.
We live in north central Washington state and get 5-7 feet of snow every winter up here in our very mountainous area.
We Love the tires !
I'm a little bit disappointed in the lack of a whiteboard.
Soooo, more cowbell?
@ebulating I like how wrong you spelled Michelin even though it's in the title
Too dry . . . : )
I feel like I'm the only one who actually doesn't like the whiteboard videos.
Racist much?
I bought these today for my rear wheel drive Dodge Challenger RT Plus, cause we got HAMMERED with snow the last 3 days here in Idaho. When I bought them from my local tire dealership, I thought I was getting an upsell. NOPE! These tires and AWESOME! And have turned my rear wheel drive Challenger back into the all weather best she is supposed to be! Great video, and great tires!!!
2 thumbs up. I learned more about tread function and design in 10 minutes than 50 years of driving. Thank you
I bought these last fall for our Subaru Forester and they're fantastic in everything from rain,sleet, ice and snow. I always get the best tires because of how important they are as it's the interface with the road and my wife often drives like a bat out of hell. We lost a young relative a couple of years ago when it was icy out and his car spun out into an oncoming delivery truck. What I wouldn't give to go back in time and buy him a set of these tires.
As a tire mechanic, these are my favorite tires to work on. They are really easy and nice to mount. They always are low roadforce and balance with low weights.
That is the sign of high quality tire. I tell ya, after having been a tire buster myself for a couple of years in the early 90’s, I’ve come to the conclusion that Michelin makes the best tires hands down. From their snow tires to summer sport tires. They just cannot be beat.
@@twistedneck Michelin makes great, high quality tires, but the best snow/winter tire around is hands down the Bridgestone Blizzak DM-V2
@@SweetShawn999 would that survive year round in Michigan? i'm not saying optimal just would it make it? or would street driving in summer destroy it?
@@twistedneck They could probably do one maybe two full years if you don't swap for summer as they are super soft, but you should easily get 5 winters out of them. I'm in Alberta and I know a few people that just rock winters all year, it just gets too hot for like 3 months and it's those months that just shred them apart. True all seasons, I'd almost always go for a Michelin if you're looking to spend Michelin $$
@@twistedneck spend the money on a winter set with winter wheels the costs are about the same when all is said and done.
That drone footage, and those treads YES YES YES!!!
HELLO!!! I want to spend time with celebrities. Just kidding. GAGAGAGAGA! I only want to spend time with my two girlfriends and record UA-cam videos for with the 3 of us. OH YEAH. Don't hate me for living the best life, dear hjm
Such great drone footy!
Oiii
Yeah big time. Hey, what about a video to see if warm tires really do work better in the snow and ice. Or a video on why some vehicles with less horsepower and torque can tow more than those with more
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Great job Michelin, you successfully designed a tractor tire.
My thought exactly
I've been thinking about some o these, but im trying to be frugal. So I forgot about them, but he had to upload this damn video. Man I wish they made a more "Truck Version" of the tire. No sacrificing anything for road noise, load range d, and with a little more tread depth. It would be my dream tire.
@@zacharykendrick2957 Michelin Agilis Cross Climate
Have fun driving a tractor at highway speeds.
Ikr idiots
I bought these about 6 months ago for my Nissan Kicks replacing the old Firestone tires of which I had problems with in the Illinois Snow. These have literally been the best all season I've ever owned. They do great in the snow, and the main difference I found was that these are amazing in the rain. I went from hydroplaning on the slightest puddle, to being able to easily go through puddles up to an inch deep with no problem. In the end this video was the one that pushed me over the edge, and I definitely don't regret it!
What is the profile on the tires that you have? Is it ok if my vehicle requires 65 but only 55 is available? I dont think there will be mutch difference
welcome to European all seasons
Literally just hit black ice while accelerating and traction control didnt even come on. Drove through nearly a foot of snow also... It just doesnt make sense how they can be this good
"Mountain Snowflake" That's what my boys call me when we're on the slopes! Thanks - once again - for the great work.
I just put a set of CrossClimate 2's on my 2016 HR-V. I can definitively say these tires are unbelievable. The hype is real! Fantastic grip on pavement and snow. Very quiet on the highway. Excellent gas mileage. Michelin knocked it out of the park!
Thanks for confirming! Buying some as we speak :)
Don't forget to change the rear differential fluid if it's all wheel drive. Recently had a customer ruin the differential in one because they never changed it.
I heard the gas mileage gets worse?
@@brianH45 how does one change the RDFluid
Thank U
hmmm how are you doing tire rotations?
I’ve own a set on my 2021 Hyundai Palisade for 7 months and these are literally the best set of tires that I’ve ever owned. I immediately replaced the factory tires, Hankook’s which I don’t like from previous experience, and decided on the CrossClimate2’s after watching and reading several reviews. It’s been a great decision.
Thanks.. interestingly, my 2007 Canyon REAR DRIVE: great with four “”HANKOOK STUDS( “”fairly cheap) ……
are they quiet? because looking at the tread pattern, i would assume they'd be loud
@@Lou-wy1zy yes, my HAKKAPALIETA STUDS ARE some noisy…. On my 2015 JOURNEY , FRONT WHEEL DRIVE( worth it on our miles of ice, uphills,etc: frankly, I ,maybe, should have waited for an ALL WHEEL DRIVE **Bargain, in retrospect : 4 W STUDDED, BEST)..
Do you drive in snow alot? I do. Plus I have a steep driveway. Are these effective in snow?
I run two sets of wheels, one for winter another for the other seasons so these would only be used in winter.
@@Lou-wy1zy They are louder - bit honestly my music or conversation is loud enough to where it doesn't matter.
Cross Climate 2 - The best all season tire I've ever driven. From Minnesota where we get a lot of snow. The Cross Climate 2 is so stable and controllable in all conditions. I bought mine at Costco and I now see stacks of them ready for sale in my local store. Why stacks of Cross Climate 2's? Because Costco is selling lots of them to Minnesotans who spend half the year driving in nasty conditions. Good news spreads and neighbors are telling neighbors about these great tires. I sure have spread the word. Thanks to Michelin for creating this tire.
Barely get snow in London. Am I better off with a summer pilot sport 5 tyre
@@wakaflockaproject Your climate gets cold enough where any summer tire, even without snow, will see really degraded performance on your coldest days as the tread compound is not optimized to perform in cold. This can, in the worst case, equate to longer breaking distances and loss of traction when cornering, or even the tire being permanently ruined. If you want a performance tire that you can use year round, I would recommend considering the Pilot Sport A/S4, which is an Ultra High Performance All Season, and has a very small amount of snow capability, and is suitable for use in dry, colder weather.
@@npaul4171 what about cross climate 2?
All Weather, here in Canada
In snowy Minnesota, our roads off you! They lull you into a false sense of security by going into a store to do shopping and it’s 58 degrees out, by the time you’re done shopping it’s a foot of snow and 15.
Jason without a whiteboard is like Santa without a beard.
kinda prefer this format tbh
It's crazy that both are white too.
Been using these! Love them. Big rains here when I bought them.
Old tires- nervous in the higher puddles.
New tires- hits every single puddle, no worrying.
Still happy with them? I live in Florida so no snow but lots of heavy rain in the summers.
I would like to know too.
Might be overkill for just rain especially for that price. I have some all season p zeros that have had no problems in rain or snow
is it me or does this tire pattern look really satisfying
Yeesssss
Love how the pattern looks. It is such a freaking good tire for all seasons. Costco did a $150 promo and its a real steal. It never snows here in Texas but it is too good all year round.
@@e-care-books9867 I don’t think anyone at all would find this humorous.
@@Opalivian
Texas in 2021 disagrees with the second part of your comment
Ummm...I'm seeing a similarity to the Goodyear "gatorbacks" of the 90s. Or tractor tires. I'm thinking noisy (?) Maybe I'll wait for more opinions from unsponsored reviewers. I have Bridgestone Duelers that I like but are worn. A bad choice for tires is something most people are stuck with for a long time so I may opt for sticking with what I already know about the Bridgestones.
I’ve had these on my Pathfinder for almost a year. They are wonderful, and quiet. My wife asked why our engine and roof racks sounded louder than usual and we realized it was because that was All we were hearing, the tire noise was incredibly reduced.
Did it perform well in snow/ice?
@@sunitjoshi3573 this is the question
@@sunitjoshi3573 yes
We too found the same thing with our Outback and Forester
We LOVE the Cross Climate 2 tires and will buy them again.
@@Doc1855 Did they smooth out the squirmy steering at highway speeds on the Forester?? That's the one thing I really dislike about my '23 Forester... steering is just very wishy-washy on the highway!
There is no white board in this video...
Me: *my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined*
Yes! This is unacceptable beyond any reasoning and may never occur again, or we May have to rally to rebel!
I understood nothing because the lack of a whiteboard explanation and some formulars. Now I have to google whats a tire or tyre or what this video is about
That and the fact I was looking for a quad mountain peak double snowflake tire....
True. That graphic at 2:30 looks so cheap compared to an old fashioned, artisanal drawing made by hand on a white board.
GASP! We have a cross-reference to another youtuber, Houston, I repeat, cross-reference cameo!
I work at discount tire and I’ve sold a few sets of cross climates, I’ve never seen a cross climate come back for being worn down yet 😂
Discount tire gang! Well I live in Cali so it’s America’s tire but same same
We've worn 4 out, took 30,000 miles (and 2 punctures) though...
That's where I bought mine!
@@EngineeringExplained Me too!
@@ewrsteading235 so, about the same as DWS-06
I've been using the CrossClimate tires for three years and they are fantastic. Just got a new set of the CC2 on my AWD Buick Envision back in September, and they are even better in the snow than the previous version. Sometimes it feels like I actually have snow tires on my car! I'd recommend them to anyone who lives in the snowbelt (I'm in West Michigan, so lots of lake effect snow here).
We get 5-7 feet of snow every winter here in north central Washington state.
We have the Cross Climate 2 tires on both our Outback and Forester.
They’re AWESOME year round tires !
Bought a set this year in Alberta, they work great in snow and are surprisingly quiet. Very pleased with the performance so far!
"Why? Because Im lazy"
Yes finally, someone that gets it.
Lazy and convenient. You only need to convert half the money into tyres. You might as well pick 1 set of excellent 4 seasons for less money than a mediocre set of summers and a mediocre set of winters
Laziness has been the reason for many innovations.
@@TheNasaDude not entirely true. If you use winter tires, you're increasing the lifespan of your summer/all season tires because you're not using them in the winter.
@@tylersmith4265 of course it's not recommended to drive with all 8 tires installed at the same time. I wonder if duallies can legally mount winters on the external wheel only?
Jokes aside sure, you get more or less the same total lifetime from any set of tires, at least for normal cars. But total cost of ownership will be lower on 4 seasons because you don't need to swap, store, balance and fit them 2 times a year, or buy a second set of rims. You also buy 1 set at a time, so cash flow is lower. More money remains in your pockets for longer and you can use it for other tasks until you buy the second set
@@billyracks yes, you get the same mileage out of any set of tyres. This as an approximation, but a fair one IMHO.
The difference is that if you want summer and winter tyres, you must buy them at the same time or at best within 6 months of eavh other.
With 4 seasons you buy another set after the 1st is used, so usually after a 3-4 years. Might not be the best technical solution, but it makes sense from a financial point of view. For tje same total mileage, you make a smaller investment twice, instead of a big investment once.
This also means that if you don't like your tyres, you only wait half the time before replacing them.
Just found this review of the CrossClimate2 tires and I’m glad I watched it. I replaced my worn out Bridgestone Ecopias on my car in December with these very tires. I was impressed by the traction improvements in what little snow we had. Now I’m starting to experience wet weather driving. So far these are the best tires I’ve ever had on a car.
I’m planning on installing a set on the wife’s van we bought used a year ago. The tires are reasonably new, but she complained about poor traction in the snow. These will definitely fix that issue.
Thanks for the honest review. It makes me feel good about this purchase, especially for what they cost.
I learned more about tire design from this guy than I ever did anywhere else, amazing!
The attribute that I expected least from this tire is handling grip on dry pavement. While I’ve only had the tires a year, they are possibly the best all season tire I’ve driven in my 49 years of driving.
I work in a tire center and they are the tires I try sell the most. The best passenger rates all season tires I've ever seen
Now this was a great lesson. I’m so tired of switching wheels twice a year. These will be my next set
I bought these for my son's first car (old Subaru Impreza) before seeing this, now I feel like I made great choice. Way cheaper than buying both a winter and summer tire, plus I don't have to store them and swap them twice a year. Lazy is smart. We some snow recently so I put them to the test. Stopped on a step grade on the side of the road with no tracks. Then drove right out of it. These are the real deal.
Thanks, how is steering, braking, etc on -30 Pe4formance, Black ices, snow pak(*;i,am still NOKIAN studs in HELENA Valley MT)??. Thank you.?.
Thanks,McKee THANK YOU for comments, ..HOW are these in BLACK,ICEING, SNOW PACKS, -30F,METC?? .(**;i,am still NOKIAN STUDS, SWITCHING BACK ,ETC)..:ps we do love my STUDS!,( actually NOKIAN SUV SUMMERS BEEN GOOD)
We have had the plus on my wife’s 2008 highlander hybrid. We currently have 389,000 miles on it. We have only bought Michelins LTx until we bought the cross climate about 6 months ago. It has been nothing short of outstanding in all weather conditions. As with all Michelins they are a little more pricey. But we have gotten as high as 85k on a set before they hit the wear bars. Just rotate them and keep air pressure right. In addition no more road noise than the prior Michelins. Very quiet.
We own an Outback and a Forester Touring.
We get 5-7 feet of snow every winter and were looking for a year round tire for our Subaru’s.
We chose the Michelin Cross Climate 2 tires.
We’ve found them to be exceptionally great tires.
They’re Awesome on dry, wet, slushy and snow covered roads.
Their a quiet tire and they don’t cut down on our mileage.
We liked them so much that we’ve recommended them to our family who lives in Montana, USA where they get just as much snow as we do here in north central Washington state.
I was talking to my brother (who he and his wife live in Portland Oregon) and they get a LOT of rain.
He laughed and said that they also have the Cross Climate 2 tires on their Outback.
They’re not a good off road tire but are fine on forest and logging roads.
When they wear out, we’ll replace them with another set of 4.
Thanks Michelin for making such an amazing 4 season tire.
Snow tires!!!!
@@vontrap6942 The Michelin Cross Climate 2 tires are Awesome for all road conditions, except for serious off roading.
They’re great on logging and forest roads as well.
For serious off roading, we take our 4WD pickup with Cooper Discoverer A/T tires.
I simply put 240# of sand bags over the rear axle of our pickup for extra traction during our very snowy winter months.
"Why? Because I'm lazy." And that got my upvote.
Cross climate 2: Electric boogaloo
I posted almost the same thing before I saw your post. Great minds...
it takes 15 min to swap winter setup
@@ImEpicc and?
@@ImEpicc sure, but then you notice you pads are worn so you're like we'll I don't want to do them in the winter so I'll do them now, while doing them you notice you have some play in you upper ball joint and you think we'll I already have the tire off and the car jacked I might as well
This is the type of advertising I can live with.
I have these on our 14 Flex AWD. Absolutely awesome. Dead silent, and great grip. It's so nice not having to bother with swapping tires in the spring and then again in the fall.
This is the exact type of tire I need driving between Nevada and California for work. The snow conditions crossing over the mountain and the dry transitions would make this tire the best choice.
Have you tried these? I'm in a similar scenario.
@@garbagetrash2938 I haven't. I went with michelin pilot all weather due to possible clearance issues and availability. It is winter rated. If I had to choose again I would go with these for winter mountain driving. The pilot sports are amazing but I still need to use chains.
We are in Utah snow and California deserts alternately. I wonder if it would make sense to try these on the wifes 2wd?
@@distilledfreedom1840 yeah that's the only tire I can find like this. Especially if you don't need chains.
Drove a Passat with these on an icy road in Nebraska a year ago and was so impressed I bought a set for my in-laws CR-V as well as my wifes vehicle. They fit our Nebraska needs so well its hard to think of another tire that is even close. We’ll see how they hold up of course, but even if I only get 40k out of them I’ll probably buy another set. Dont skimp when it comes to safety
I just didnt get how he said that they have a compound similar to a winter compound, yet they're all seasons. Sounded to me like they would wear like crazy, and the reviews say they do.
How are yours holding up this summer?
@@rabidlenny7221 Thanks for asking! We have about 10K miles on my wife’s set (2005 CR-V)and about 12K on my in-laws (2018 CR-V). So far they are wearing just fine. Its still too early to know for sure how they will do long term but so far I am very happy with them.
I think these tires are extremely sensitive to alignment issues and need frequent rotations (though, they can only go from front to rear since theyre directional) or else they’ll wear unevenly and be toast. I really only expect to get 40k miles out of them anyways. Id much rather be confident my wife and baby will be able to stop in the winter than get 80K miles out of a Michelin Defender. Ill happily buy another set if my opinion doesnt change before then.
@@clintonbartek1413 Agreed man! Just curious but im glad theyre workign out for you. I considered them too but they dont make them in the sizes needed for an s2000.
The one thing was that they look like they have almost no groves really for lateral grip.. Im sure the fluid dynamics of slush are complex lol. So they might have plenty of lateral grip.. but that was one thing I was wondering about too
@@rabidlenny7221 nice dude, believe it or not I have an S2k as well!! I went with Michelin Pilot Sport 4S on that last year and they are *chefs kiss* fabulous. However, it will never see a flake of snow, so I dont worry about winter with that one!
@@clintonbartek1413 Haha yeah, its my daily, used to live in NJ but now live in VT... gonna have to figure something out for winter.
Went with the Contiential DWS 06+'s. A really nice all season. I don't track it, although I would really like to. I do a lot of hiking, and with snow coming, in the same way you bought these michelins, I thought that was the "safest" tire.
Would love to be machismo and say I bought summer tires cause I track it! But I dont, so I thought I'd be real with myself. I do enjoy drifting it on dirt roads though lol.
And of course you have an S2K!! Game recognize game as they say :)
Not just being lazy. Many of us are unable to purchase 2 sets of tires. Having one set that do all 4 seasons properly.
Plus a second set of Wheels for the Winters
I’d never considered airflow through a tire as something that would contribute to tire noise. Educational, techy, geeky, car-focused content FTW 😎
I have been using them from December 2021 till today in Greece so I have experienced relatively mild weather conditions. They are quite soft and silent and they seem to provide a decent grip in all surfaces as long as you do not push them. During this summer I have decided to put them to a cornering test in high temperatures and my Passat cc would wiggle in every corner .. I would say that it is a family man's tyre and probably that's what it was designed for.
I believe the highest speed rating they posses is V. They're definitely not track tires but I'm seriously considering them for my Taurus SHO.
Kales,,rodes,,,malaka,,
I can confirm that the CrossClimate+ are awesome! Very comfy, very silent, great grip :)
I just bought these for my Impreza outback sport
@@legitballin1986 I’m trying to get the same thing for the same car. What do you think of them
i have them for 4 years now, arround 30000 km, excelent in summer, wet, half decent in winter - meaning once you get going they are ok, getting out of snow, they spin a lot not gripping, but is normal not beign a dedicated winter tire. Overall? beign lazy they are worth every penny just dont get your hopes up. Ah and wear? 40000 km are more than enough not like the vide says 50k mils or 60k miles in their dreams :))
I am trying to choose between these and the Continental ExtremeContact DWS06 plus.
@@MrLips635 DWSs are amazing, have them on a q50, they're about halfway done but handled the snow in PA this winter wonderfully
These non-skippable UA-cam tire ads are getting out of control. 😂
I came here to watch commercials 🤦🏼♂️😳
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@@d0x360 They were making a joke yall.
What would you expect from the money-grabbing (and grubbing) reptiles at ABC Company (Google)?
I work at discount tire and we just recently started getting these in. When I first saw it I definitely noticed it had a funky look. Customers seem happy with though they balance easy.
Hopefully (for Michelin, and customer's sake) they're not a huge flop like the Premier A/S and LTX.
Discount tire my favorite tire spot. Free rotation for the life of the tires. I bought these for my wife's car. They're pretty good in the wet. These replaced some continental DWS03
Same, work at Discount, people rarely buy them but maybe this will get them more sales who knows. As long as they're better quality than most of the rest of Michelin. Been having quality issues for a bit now.
@@USMCPFC1 hopefully better in the snow than the DWS, but those are more of a high performance allseason.
@@thegoodson2000 I actually had great results with the premier A/S. So much so I ran through two sets on my 09 Honda Accord LX-P getting 60k miles each time. Though my alignment was proper and tires were rotated every 6k miles. Sorry for your loss though.
Just bought these for my VW GTI in Minnesota. Only have about 1500k on the tires and honestly are the best all season tires I have purchased. Great in the snow, quite, and drive great on dry roads. Strange looking tire and was hesitant to buy, but I like Michelin tires and the tire shop recommended them. I recently been watching reviews on these tires and can confirm, that if you drive in any snow, these are the best all seasons to get.
Great tyre. Have them on the wife's Subaru Outback all year round, and I swap out the PS4S for these in winter (as I don't need a full winter tyre). Always tempted to leave them on all year, but my car is somewhat sportier than the Outback and does benefit from the PS4S
@@CM.243 - are the ps4s that much better? I was considering them to.
@@northjerseykevin409 I've got a M340i currently on CrossClimate. They're good. Comfy. soft, not that noisy, good in cold temps that we get south of England. But I don't feel that they grip in the corners anywhere near as good as the PS4S. Adequate but not as confidence inspiring. I found the PS4S lost that grip on cold damp roads, so was happy to swap. But I'll definitely be swapping back to them when it warms up.
Guess it depends on car and driving style. Like I said the wife's Outback is a blancmange that wouldn't benefit from PS4S so CrossClimate all year for her. She also drives sedately. So if you drive like "Driving Miss Daisy" then also not much benefit.
@@CM.243 thank you very much for the response. I completely understand what you’re saying. I have a BMW also. Only drove it once on a cold damp morning and it definitely not happy in those conditions but rips on summer day. After a lot of reviews I’m learning I can’t get the best of both worlds. I’m thinking maybe the cross climate will become my winter tire and if I’m not satisfied when it warns up I’ll look into a set of summer tires. Thanks again for sharing your thoughts.
Ive had these on my rav4 for about 3,000 miles so far and I’m quite impressed. Just starting to get snow now and I’m looking forward to it.
Same here. My Rav4 is riding much smoother than with the cheap tires I replaced them from.
I want to put these on my rav as well when my Bridgestone duras wear out.
My 15 000km experience on these (CC+) is that those are decent summer tyres with great wet grip on near icing temperature. It is decent on snow on acceleration and braking and its achilles heel is slow speed maneuvering on snow, probably due to lack of sipes. It does not wear fast during summer and noise level is quite low. I will probably buy another set when these are done.
Yes I use separate winter tyre for winter but these will shorten my winter tyre season by couple of months as wear resistance and clear road handling in these is great compared to really soft nordic winter tyre. But really not even close on snow and ice when winter really starts.
I'm really happy to see you mention these tires. I bought them the advice of a Renault dealer and I'm happy to see that their advice was worth the price.
I have bought Michelins for 30 years. They are quiter and very reliable. I like them a lot.
How do you know how they compare if you've been buying them for 30 years?
@@Larcona_ Good question. 40 years ago they were the only affordable premium tire. I bought them at Sears (Canada). Now I buy them at Costco in Tennessee; the sales guys tell me they are quiter and softer and brake in shorter distances than the comparable Goodyears (but probably don't last as long). That's reflected in online reviews. Probably makes no real difference; I drive a Camry.
@@10tenman10 They are just so damn expensive. I'm a tire guy. Michelin is by far the best, but not everyone can afford them. I have Coopers on my truck and really like them. I live in an area with no snow so I purchased the highway tread for my Ram 1500. (OE is 275/60r20). After 30,000 miles they are holding up nicely (plus Arnold Palmer likes them, anything Arnold Palmer endorses is okay by me.) Coopers are on Air Force one and the space shuttle. I would rather have Michelin but they just cost too much.
From 1981 to 1997 I was firmly entrenched in the tire business and I never EVER saw the failure of a Michelin. I would rarely see a Goodyear, Kelly, or Nitto fail either. What I saw fail for no reason was Pirelli, BFG, Firestone, and General. These are just my observations after 16 years of seeing over 200 tires pass through my workplace every day. Michelin is obviously the best.
@@paulh7589 agree with your comment. I have had Coopers and liked them a lot. I have never had any problems with Michelins (apart from nail puncture holes which I have had repaired).
I purchased CrossSeason 2 tires at Costco in the USA. Got four 20 inch rim tires for my Lexus 450h. Cost about $950. Tire rides quiet, excellent handling, great braking. Replaced Bridgestone Ecopia, grateful I had to do the replacement as I have a far superior tire now.
I have rx350. Does it feel stable in fast turns or at high speeds?
Because I'm lazy: the Engineer's creed.
I actually wanted to smack his face when he said that... Made me loose the respect I had.
People driving on "all season" tires all year round should be kicked in the nuts.
Because he’s got bills to pay too (paid advertising flag did pop up)
Exactly: Think hard, do good research ONCE, now DRIVE while checking hypotheses formed when initially researching. Sounds legit to me. (Physicist).
@@RobWhittlestonesince the vast majority of consumers don’t try different tires with the same vehicle at the approx same mileage since tires last 50k or so miles, doesn’t that mean you’re very limited on the conclusions you can actually draw from your experience? (Biology and psych by training, not by trade).
@@rkuoch1 Hi Robert - I agree - I think average consumers don't do this. They pick by price and maybe performance criteria like wet grip and noise and choose the best of a mediocre bunch. But car nerds possibly have several vehicles (I have two and my wife has one) and may have more opportunities to change. I just got some new ones on my sports car because the rears had been unevenly worn through misalignment - so there was a new choice right there. If I'm happy with my choice I'll stay with them and get the other 2 replaced, if not, I'll replace all of them next spring. There my criteria will be different from my wife's or from my long-distance spacious wagon - I'll want summer grip wet/dry and steering to be good, fuel economy no issue but noise should not be excessive but need not be whisper quiet. Do you see what I mean? All the best, Rob
"Why? Because I'm lazy!" YES! This is a video i can relate to :)
Jason, I'd like an update video once you have some miles driven in ice and snow please.
-30°celsius please!!!!
I'm interested in an update as well!
these will never ever be nearly as good as dedicated winter tires. If ice/snow is a genuine concern of yours, don't bother getting any all-weather tires.
@@gwot Don't be so sure. Reputable tests have indicated that some all-weather tires outperform some dedicated winter tires in snow. Times have changed and these types of tires are a game changer.
@@georgeedwards5173 yes, the best all-weather tire can out perform the worst winter tire in SOME areas, I've seen those tests too. But when it comes to the extreme, as in extreme cold, or wet ice, the dedicated winter Sipes and softer compound will still win. I do not believe we're at the point where we can have the best of both worlds in one tire. I also don't believe the same manufacturer will make an all-weather better than dedicated winters. Again, all-weather tires have no place if you see ice and snow and Extreme cold for more than half a year.
My wife's Suzuki SX4 does fine in the Alberta winters with the CC's but this year we bought Winter tires because of increased driving and its a big jump in improvement of confidence while driving. I think if you live in places where you get some snow but its not constant like some places in the east US and in a place like Vancouver that All Weathers(3peaks) can be ok, but they will be only passable in other places with harsher winters.
I was curious and I installed the CrossClimate+ on my Kia Optima when the short-lived Michelin factory tires wore out. They perform well even in light snow, but they notably decreased the fuel economy -- at least according to the onboard computer.
Thanks for posting this. I'm considering this tire for my Honda Accord, but I think it might be overkill for my local road conditions. I don't know if I'll make up for the lost mpg by driving it on a few skiing trips per year instead of my other AWD, less fuel efficient vehicle.
I had michelin cross climate as a all season here in Iceland. They are awsome lasted me 3.5 years and wouldve lasted longer i am sure if i had noticed earlier that i had to adjust my steering wheels. Which were unbalanced and ruined them early. They are amazing in snow and wet snow and slob and so good in rain, here in Iceland our roads are not great and we get deep tire marks where rain just turns into rivers. Was no issue to drive on the cross climate. And omg they are so quiet, i have a suzuki vitara 2017, its like a beer can when it comes to sound proof.. but those tires made it quiet and soothing. I recomend cross climate from Michelin anyday ! Ill stick with that version always ^^,
Ps. I drive on average 30.000km a year so 3.5 years they still had decent tracks after 105.000 kms i drive a lot of just long distance drive.
The guy at costco told me these are for summer only...thats why they dont have em...imagine my surprise. Live in iceland as well and looking for the best.
Lol. Nothing happens to your steering wheel. Its the joints/bushings that get wore out and off center which in turn makes your steering wheel feel off to keep to the vehicle centered down the road.
I have these tires on my Mini and I love them! No snow yet but the dry traction has genuinely been impressive. They’re shockingly quiet also.
Huh. I have only two complaints. One is heavy snow and inclines with moderate snow. The other one is noise - not too bad but not great also.
@@ProjectExMachina right. I was expecting like all terrain-levels of tread growl but honestly not bad. Good to know I shouldn’t attack snow drifts with these, but on a plowed road should be fine, right?
@@S1MN05 Yup. Compacted snow is good. Deep snow is tricky. One of the good things about this climate change is that I don't need dedicated winter tire anymore.
In the winter I always have driven with Bridgestone Blizzak winter tires and they are by far the number one in the industry. I have switched to these Michelin‘s and the best thing about them as they wear totally even as the tread wears down. Amazingly superior in the rain. Great in snow, dry and they are quiet. Highly recommended
Blizzals are definitely good winter tires and I am looking forward to trying these Cross Climate 2s which I put on in early June as my original all seasons are worn out ( 3/32nds tread depth and the winters I use from late October to late April ( 3 1/2 winters ) were under 5/32s. Winter 2023 /24 I will buy the new ( got a set for my wife's car in Fall 2019 ) Michelin Ice and Snow which I would put up against a Blizzak any day. They are quiet, dig through deeper snow, push slush away better than any winter tire I've ever had and stick well on compact snow / ice all without negative effects on fuel consumption. Give a set of those a try ( I got the ones for my wife's car at 25% off at one of Canada's largest "tire retailers".
@@alexwill3722 that’s funny. I actually have the cross climate 2’s on my car. So last winter I drove them in the snow and they did pretty decent. Obviously not as good as the Blizzacks but they did a pretty decent job. And they are clase A in the rain for sure. The good thing about them is they wear evenly all the way down. Definitely nice tires
I've had a few sets of Blizzaks, they are wonderful when new but seem to lose their edge after a few thousand miles and then are just mediocre. I'm a far bigger fan of the Good Year Ultra Grip Ice. It's got all the traction of the Blizzaks but far better wearing and works better on packed snow which is a big portion of my winter driving.
Beta testing an unreleased tyre? Better not have any bugs in it ...
guess they puked all over the place ... presumambly the rims have to go into the trash
bugsnax
The bugs will be on the windshield.
REMEMBER NO PRE-ORDERS
wait... I wasn't supposed to put bugs in his tires
Nokian WR series tyres revolutionized “all weather” (vs all season) with three peak winter certification over a decade ago. I’m happy to see Michelin get into this category for North America.
Wondering how the Nokians compare here!
Nokian rapes Michelin
I’ve tried Nokian Weatherproof and I was very impressed with it on the snow, now I’m on Michelin CC. I think Nokian is better on snow but does wear off quicker and a bit noisier compared to Michelin.
@@DaveBenson I don't know how Nokian compare with the Michelins but I had WR G3 on my Outback and they were pretty good all weather tires. Now on my Ascent I have Goodyear Assurance WeatheReady and to my surprise the Goodyears are much better than the Nokians especially on ice and in deep slush.
I'm running WRG4s right now but haven't had serious winter weather to test them. A fine tire otherwise, would like a little more wet grip though. Cross climates look appealing.
I have used these on my car for two years, and i confirm that they are very good, reliable and safe tires.
Where abouts do you live?
@@trails3597 Central Europe with a few weeks of mild snow and freezing temperatures a year and the tire performed very good in these conditions (as well as summer and rain). If you live in the mountains or somewhere with heavy snow more than a few weeks a year, i'd still recommend more agressive winter tires.
I've been reading that while they're good tires, gas mileage has been reduced for many people. have you experienced this?
Tested this year and it completely failed on slightly icy hill. I had no problems on other car with proper winter tyres.
@@PavelSkollSuk shouldn't you be comparing against all season tires though?
@Engineering Explained I, for one, would love to hear your long term experience with these, especially with respect to tread wear. It's great to hear a engineering oriented forensic analysis done well. Thank you !
I’m on Cross Climate + for 3.5 years now with a rear wheel drive. I got them while living in New England before winter, which provides opportunity. I have 32 K on them with plenty of tread still. When they were knew, I drove on the interstate at night in a huge downpour. You couldn’t see the road or the lanes, as the water was collecting on the road and it was in the country. I slowed down to 40 just because, but honestly, they cut through the water so well, I couldn’t even feel it. One cut on them was there was noticeable noise at low speeds that would disappear once you sped up. After some thousands of miles it went away. I don’t know if the 2 still has that. I have a Lexus LS, which are phenomenally quiet so it was significant. They did well on both snow and ice through one winter. With a rear wheel, I didn’t push it. Before this I went through two sets of Michelin Primacy’s on a Lexus ES. To me, these were just as nice to drive on. Once broken in, just as quiet (again, I have a very quiet car that may fudge that, but I read a review that said they were pretty equal). I discovered them before they were really popular here and watching reviews from European channels that tested them in big snow in Northern Europe and raves about them.
I'd think the tread contact area would go from oval-to-rectangle making the disapating stearing feel and increasing to hydroplaneing .The first noticeable as the tire wears.
Well he did say he’s already put 8000 miles on the 2’s
The Cross Climate 2s have tread "grooves" that "widen" slightly as they wear down so less depth but a wider "groove" equals or should equal similar water / slush performance. These are rated as 100,000 to 110,000 km??? which is 60,000 to 70,000 miles. It would ne a miracle to get anywhere near that but 60 to 70,000 kms ( 40 ton 45,000 miles ) shouldn't be that hard to achieve and is pretty good for a tire that will grip in snow a lot better than an all season tire ( they call these all seasons but they are an All WEATHER tire . All Seasons are actually 3 season Tires. Wear depends on how you drive, how you are with keeping the tire pressures correct, whether you drive with heavy loads, high speeds. trailer pulling and if you "rotate" the tires every 4,000-5,000 miles ( in this case with directional tires it's simply moving fronts to back and backs to front ). 99% of people brake too hard, accelerate too fast, and don't check tire pressures correctly or at all.
Came here to say I bought these for my mom and sis after watching this video. Mom has a FWD Lexus and sis a CR-V. Awesome tires in the snow on both cars so far after two NE snowstorms, and no more swapping winter/summer wheels
I've heard they get noisy with mileage Any noise complaints now that they've put miles on em? Also, how many miles?
I have always loved Michelins, now I love them more!
“Why? Cause I’m lazy”
My favourite bit 😂
Yep instant like after he said this! After all it's the reason I was interested in the video in the first place!
Because I'm lazy is the best justification for everything xD
I'll admit having to take my WRX to the tire place to get the TPMS recalibrated each time I change tires/wheels is really annoying.
Same reason as me
I've done 20k, on the original Cross Climates. One thing that you have missed is the stone pick ups. They get jammed in the Grove, great for not wearing rubber, but have become very noisy. I get a worr worr worr annoying noise now, and have to de stone quite frequently. I'm thinking of changing to the X Climate 2, or to re balance to see if this changes? These are expensive tyres.
Worse than the stone pickup characteristics are the nail, screw, bolt, and washer pickup characteristics that I have read about. Lots of tire damage even if you do not get a road hazard warranty covered puncture. Very concerning as even some of the most generous road hazard warranties eventually will quit providing coverage after too many punctures have to be fixed with full inside the tire patches and inside the tire plugs. I am believing that the new Bridgestone Weather Peak TPMSF(Three Peak Mountain Snow Flake) tires might be a better choice.
I don’t even have a car, i still watched the whole video
MVP, thanks for watching!
This means you are a petrol head. Welcome to the club 👍
Me Either, Good Luck.
It’s good to know about tires just in case you buy a used car with some bald ones.
@@ronan7812 don’t forget diesel😼
That video just quadrupled my knowledge of tires and now I really want those tires!!!
I have the cross climate 2 on my Lexus. Love the snow traction. Only thing I noticed is how much mud, and road slop it flicks onto my car when turns are made. Also, on gravel roads, it carries the small stones for quite a while. Thinking about putting them on my Tacoma. I like Mechelin tires.
I've noticed they pick up stones quite badly too
I’ve got the cc2 and they grip. The best set of tires I’ve ever bought. Well worth the money.
When I first saw this tire I had doubts if it will work in snow. However my tire change was during snow, and I have checked them on the spot. They work perfectly.
Do they work from home?
@@TheNasaDude haha 🤣
I have had CrossClimate+ on 3 cars by now (Switzerland and Hungary) and I am extremely satisfied with it.
I have them on my two EVs here in Switzerland. I have driven them over snowy mountain passes (Flüla Pass) to the ski resort and I love them.
You specifically mentioned your CrossTrek and showed it throughout the video, but yet covered up the Subaru logo on the steering wheel?
Just bought the CC2 because of this video. Amazing tires.
How are they?
We just put on my wife's Siena awd minivan. They are great! She had those run flats which sucked and were noisy. The CC2 are quiet and she gained 4-5 mpg on her highway mileage! Best tire we ever bought!
@@craigcontofalsky4387 Any regular tire is much better than run flat tires. Runflats are horrible, extremelly hard, heavy and very little life.
@@craigcontofalsky4387 I'm in BC, the Fraser Valley, with a Siena awd minivan. I want to head into the mountains for snowboarding from time to time. Will these tires get me up to Hemlock? I would love to know. If they do I can get them. Secondly, would they be fuel efficient in the summer? So then no need for yearly tire changing. This tire would cover all! I am trying to decide whether I should change to winter tires every season, or get these and be done.
These came with C40 (CrossClimate 2 SUV) and I wanted to try them out. Changed just as we got "one more blizzard". And I can confirm. These are amazing! Almost as good as Continental Viking Contact 7 studless tires. That's saying a lot! Going to keep these well into the winter. Nicely done Michelin!
Do you plan on getting them in the future? Would you go back to Continental?
@@alejandrohector4528 oh don't get me wrong. They can't replace VCs. With - 20° and 100km/h I wouldn't trust CC2s. But with mild weather and city speeds they are excellent. No need to worry if first snow comes at night and you're still rocking CC2s. They buy you time to change to prober winter tyres. Studs or no.
how’s your tread life if you don’t mind?
@@good-tn9sr only had them for like 7000km last year. So still basically brand new. Installing them back in few weeks.
@@Sahkoautoseparempiauto alright thanks for the update!
I have these on our Infiniti Q50. Quiet, handle well, amazing in the snow and dry. It’s expensive, but worth it. $200 each in our size.
Spot on, this is an excellent tyre. I've driven diesel Passats for the last 17 years with Michelin Primacy Pilots. Now I'm retired and I'm a Community Driver in the Scottish Highlands taking people from remote glens to hospital appointments in the lowlands so I can't let them down on a snowy morning. With the Cross-Climates at 37 psi the car drives better than any I've had in the last 17 years and in snowy or icy conditions it never falters. At a higher pressure than with the PPs the tyres don't feel harsh, probably thanks to a softer compound but the higher pressure improves general handling. I get 61 mpg on long trunk road drives with a bit of motorway. The compound contains more silicon; you can feel it and the gravel on my drive sticks to them. Noise is no worse than the Primacy Pilots and on our frequently flooded roads they never feel vague. While the traction is superb I have a small doubt about lateral grip but that may be because I'm cornering less timidly on snow than I would have done on the PPs.
The only thing that stops the Passat is snow deeper than a foot, which builds up in front and blocks the car. My wife has an XC60 with the same tyres and it's unstoppable in snow thanks to higher ground clearance and 4WD. We had a lot of fun in the Volvo during the December snow.
Wear seems no worse than on the regular summer tyres, again maybe because I'm a private motorist now paying for my fuel and carrying old folk so I'm not caning the car but after a year at about 1000 miles a month there's still a full 7mm of tread on the front tyres.
So yes, an excellent tyre, the best I've had in 47 years of mixed condition driving in the French Alps, northern England and Scotland.
I put these on my wife’s ‘15 Ford Edge. They have amazing traction on the Minnesota snow & ice! Was a little worried that they would be loud on the hwy, but surprisingly quiet. Seem to be a great tire so far
How did they perform in the hotter dry months? I’m also in Minnesota and am looking to get these before the winter.
Be curious to see how they do on ice. I'll take dedicated winter tires any day. Switching them and storage is a pain, but not half as much as a collision would be.
I live in Denver, so one day we will have a foot of snow then two days later, the roads are dry again and it doesn't snow for two weeks. I can't imagine running studded snow tires here. However, when I lived in Missouri where we would have ice storms and black ice nearly all winter, I can't imagine NOT running studded snow tires.
I have a competitor 4 season tire- Firestone Weathergrips. Feel the same on snow as a dedicated winter tire, on ice Weathergrips split the difference between 3 season tires and dedicated Winter tires. I feel confident using these 4 season tires all year here in Calgary where we have 7 months of snow :) Micheline Cross Climate+ are probably similar in winter and very good the rest of the year.
@@zzanatos2001 Yep--I'm just north of you. I have run studless winter tires on my Outback, but 3PMS rated all season is really nice since the snow is so sporadic. I have Cooper EnduraMax, but these are a cooler looking tire at least. I haven't tested mine in significant snow yet.
They perform very well on ice. Watch some testing done.
The tests I've seen they actually perform better on ice than some cheaper dedicated winter tires,which is a impressive feat. This is also what personal experience have shown, I actually skid less on ice in my car on my all season tires than I do in the company cars dedicated winter tires with about same tire size. (I've used the European crossclimate+ version for the past 3 years.)
You also have to factor in that "not half as much a pain as a collision would be"
Keep in mind that during winter, not everyone is on ice 100% of the time. These may outperform wintertires on dry, slurry or wet roads during winter season. Have yet to find good testing videos on this topic.
Great video and it confirms what I have found out for myself. I put a set of the Cross Climate 2s on my AWD Acura MDX and they are absolutely the best tire I've ever run on this vehicle. They are quieter than the Goodyear tires that were originally on the vehicle. Plus the feel and handling is hands down better than it has ever been.
Same here! I have 2 Acura MDX’s, (2003 Tech and 2013 Advance), and the Ross climates are great on my 2003!
I use the Forcinium Heptagons for my 2013. Those are even better off-road!
I have to say - I am about a week late finding out about these tires. I live in North Dakota so winters suck for driving, and I just got a second set of wheels with snows mounted for winter. Had I known this tire was out there, I might have saved myself the hassle of two sets of wheels and tires each year. That said, I’m extremely happy with how they perform in the snow.
I think when it comes time for a new set of all seasons I’m going to really be looking at these!
Shoot04 don't be to hard on yourself ,if your winters are extremely bad with snow and cold temperatures for long periods ,The full winter tyre is the correct choice, These Michelin are perfect for milder climates like southern uk and lower Scotland , the Highlands of Scotland and northern Europe may require a greater tyre for winter
Those Michelin Xice i3s shown early in video last almost as long as my all seasons. Amazing tires will buy again. On my 3rd set now.
Just bought these for UK use. Basically need to be confident in wet winters, able to get around in occasional few-inches-of-snow, and there's a few major hills nearby on main roads that get blocked by summer tyre people so being able to climb on untreated minor roads will be fantastic.
I went with summer tyres for UK use. As barely get snow
@@wakaflockaproject depends where in the UK you live!
Hmm this looks like a good tire for where I live in Oregon. Down in the valleys in the winter we typically just get a lot of rain, rarely snow. But driving between cities or towns, or out to/from the coast you may cross some higher elevations which get heavy wet snow. That and we also have plenty of dirt, gravel, or sand trails too if you like to explore a bit. Something like this looks like it would be a great jack of all trades, and probably superior than all season tires on loose surface conditions. I'll have to keep these in mind.
I have these tires mounted on 17x7.5 wheels on my mk7 Golf R and just drove all weekend in a blizzard in northern Vermont... they're amazing. I was straight tearing up the steep snowy back roads so easily. And they feel good in the dry as well. I initially planned to get a second set of wheels to run summer tires, but now I see no reason to ever take these things off the golf.
How are they in the wet ?
Your golf is fwd? Do you only get the front two tires if it was fwd or a set of 4?
@@jasonrodriguez5210 FYI: The Golf R is AWD whereas the GTI is FWD. Me personally, I always buy full sets of tires and rotate appropriately to keep them wearing down evenly throughout their life cycle. The exception being if I get a puncture in a tire early on; then I'll just replace the one tire.
Seems kind of similar to the Goodyear “Aquatread” from the early 90’s. These seem to be more winter friendly, great video as usual👍🏻
Aquatreads were great when wet, although somewhat noisy.
@@n9wox like my ex
Exactly what I was thinking. I was wondering if Goodyear's patent had expired for Michelin to make such an obvious near-copy of that tread pattern design.
Was thinking the exact same thing while watching... Looks like an Aquatread.
They look really similar to a lot of all-season tyres. I suppose that's because the self-clearing tread patterns are all going to end up looking similar. Vredestein, Hankook and Goodyear all make tyres with patterns similar to these Michelins.
And they all look like a tractor tyre when you over-simplify the tread design. Simply because new muck entering the pattern at the start of the contact patch will force muck currently in the contact patch out of the side of the tread pattern. If you want a all-season tyre that's mostly good in rain, handles the salted slush well and has decent performance in summer, it's very hard to get away from a tread pattern like this, because physics.
After an intense amount of research, I put these Cross Climate² on all four tire rims of my Accord Hybrid. I took a hit on mileage, even when you account for the drop due to batteries in colder weather, but I am satisfied because the crazy snow storms in the northeast the last 2 months were not a problem at all. Even when small SUVs got stuck, I rolled right on by *uphill* even in several inches of tire-packed (and unpacked) snow. Hydroplaning resistance is outstanding as well. I would call these the safest tires out there anywhere. Plus Costco has them which ROCKS!
Are they noisier?
You didn’t stop to help those stuck SUVs then? You just rolled right on by.
@@christianpetersen1782 sometimes if you stop to help then you also end up getting stuck, especially uphill
What about rotating these..? Is it okay to rotate tires only from the front to the back of the car instead of cross corners?
I bought these tires about two months ago, and I can confirm they are awesome! I live in NW Pennsylvania, and we get a TON of snow (usually in the top 3 US cities every year). These things are about 10x better in snow than my old Continental all seasons that came on my 2018 VW. I was worried about them being loud, but they're actually noticeably quieter on the highway than my old tires. We'll see how long they hold up, but I'd definitely recommend them and would buy them again!
How do they handle in dry weather when pushed to the limit?
@@LeftenantMalachi I don't see much of this dry weather you mentioned. They stopped pretty well when a bunny ran out in front of my car a few weeks ago. I wouldn't take them to a track day if that's what you mean by "pushed to the limit."
Like 145+
Just put 4 of these on my jeep grand Cherokee,so far there great they ride beautifully and fantastic in the rain.I’m very pleased.
I love this tread pattern on my high roof transit van. I drive in one of the highest snow regions in the US(Wasatch Mountains) with RWD. These things totally do the job
What would be your advice in driving in light and deep snow?? How fast would you drive in both conditions? Finally, how would you handle braking in both type of conditions?
@@bigdaddyc7266 picking speeds can't really be done because snow is different from region to region, and even storm to storm. The best thing to do though is only driving Xmph if you know you can stop your car from that speed on the road you're driving
@@veganpotterthevegan I live in New York and recently bought a Lincoln Town car. It was in good shape and a good price, so I bought it. I'm a new driver and rarely drive in snow storms. Trying to get the most advice I can get before I decide to tackle snow storms on my Lincoln Thank u.
@@bigdaddyc7266
I wouldn't drive it in deep snow without winter tires. But for roads that are plowed often you shouldn't have a problem. I have a Grand Marquis, that is almost the same car you have and didn't have a problem driving in Connecticut last winter. Some people put weight in the trunk to give more traction to the rear tires. And if you are stuck in deeper snow, put the transmission in 2 instead of "drive". The car would start moving in second gear and you may avoid spinning that way.
@@bigdaddyc7266
You can drive as fast as any other cars in snow. And breaking is good enough a but you have to press the pedal slowly and earlier than without snow. Handling is decent. I guess being a heavy car helps in these conditions
I agree that these are fantastic, all-season tires. Previously I had always installed a set of Blizzaks for the winter months but, I got fed up of the hassle of swapping them out. Decided to try a 'one tire does all' after reading all the reviews.Had them on a VW Touareg here in the snow belt for 2 years and they performed very well indeed. Drove from west Michigan to Utah, and back, twice for skiing vacations and they handled great on dry, wet, icey and snow-covered roads. I had total confidence in them. They were quiet, smooth and composed. The only drawback was the exceptionally poor longevity. After only 17,000 miles, they were causing all sorts of handling issues and had to be replaced. Paying $1,200 for a set of 4 tires that only last 17,000 miles sucks! It might be a better situation with other vehicles as 'posthumous' research highlighted low tire life as a known issue with Touaregs and Audi Q7s.
I live in Central IL, really can't justify the expense of a set of winter tires; never really know how much snow we're going to get. Sorry the CC 2's didn't last longer. I have about 8,000 on mine - so far!
We’ve had no problems with them prematurely wearing out. We have them on both our Outback and Forester.
We rotate them with every 5K mile oil change.
They’re wearing normal for us.
had the same issue. The grip was great when new. It started to slip when gets older
Watching this is like having a conversation with myself about tires because nobody wants to talk about tires with me as much as I want to talk about tires with me.
I’m the oddball who loves tire shopping. I can spend hours on tire rack comparing tires! 😀
Then check out Tyre Reviews. Founder and presenter, Jonathan, is also very active in comment section. Right now, he is on a American tour, reviewing UHP all season tyres
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Or maybe you just like to look at tires! :D I like to do both.
Tires are one of the most important thing on cars
I relate so much to this, especially that I’ve just bought a set of winter tires for my car
I work at fedex currently and been getting 100s of these and move them all one at a time by hand, I hate these tires 😂😂
I know what you mean. For years I cleaned toilets that I would never be using. Just remember that those tires are very important to the people they end up with, and perhaps indirectly they're grateful for your part in getting the tires out to them. I'm grateful for all of you guys that make shipments possible, and especially so during this COVID.
Thanks for doing it!
@@discerningmind sorry, didnt see the response, I try to treat every package like its mine, cant say that about everyone at my location though! Thanks for the thanks and happy holidays!
@@pimpsterrrrr no problem, hope you have a good holiday!
Good workout
Perfect tire for cold climates with moderate snow or urban areas with more snow that are frequently plowed. Massive snow/ice grip improvement over all seasons.
I have these tires. One other downside to these are when you want to rotate them. Since they are directional it limits your rotating options without switching wheels. Still love them
That’s a deal breaker for me. I’ve always bought Michelin tires for my wife’s RX 350 and I have gotten good long life out of them by rotating the tires every 7,500 miles.
On radial tires you should only change from front to back keep the left on the left &right on the right anyway only bias ply tires can be rotated side to side
Most "good" tires these days are directional...tread patterns have improved significantly in the last 10 years and almost all are now directional because it works better.
In North America, this Crossclimate "all-season" tire is known as an all-weather tire, as regular all-seasons here aren't 3-peaks-mountain-snow-flake approved (all seaons here are in fact 3-season tires). In EU, all-seasons == all-weather.
Yeeeeup!
Exactly
Notably all seasons can be pretty trash in the rain too where at least the all-weathers that I've had tear that up.
Thank you for mentioning this. I was trying to find this tire at my local shop and couldn't because I was filtering by all-seasons!
I have these tires. They're ok. The all-season General Altimax 43s I had performed just as well, if not better, and for way less money.
Then you must not be driving them in real winter conditions.
@@williamgiffels9961 Not true. Live in New England. Plenty of snowstorms to inform my opinion of the tires.
Since I'm on my 1st set of CrossClimates, it's possible that in the end these will have a longer treadlife than the Generals. Time will tell.
Where did I state I was driving on those tires? I run Nokian WR tires in the winter.
I'm never going back to other tyre types on my daily. They are excellent.
1) Reminds me a lot of Goodyear's early Aquatred innovations (1980's?)
2) The 3-peak Euro tire certification is *huge*, and I can't believe that even in the northern US, such a rating is not the norm. Great compromise between winter and summer or even all-season tires!
3) I think I may have found my new tires!
Yep, Goodyear Aquatred was what I immediately thought of. I used to run those and then the Aquatred 2. Not sure why they discontinued them. Maybe the invention of ABS?
Just had these put on my Palisade. Amazing tire, very quiet as well. Definitely recommend them!
I've had a set of Crossclimates on my Subaru Legacy for a couple of years now. Certainly good in snow and on dry roads, but they really shine going through water without hydroplaning. I haven't noticed any more road noise than with any other tire.
This is great for me as I just picked up my Legacy XT touring last week and want to switch out the tires as I'm not a fan of Yokohama. I've ordered a set to be installed next week
Had my CC2's two winters now, and i still love them! Had plenty of snow here in middle part of Sweden and they work great in deep snow and slushy weather. I think AWD is a must though.