@@SnakeEyesSwimThe all season tires' rubber (and also the central-european winter to some degree) is not soft enough at those temperatures and will start to act more like a summer tire, at those temperatures you definitely need a nordic tire. Nordic winter tires will rapidly start degrading and failing at 30C, especially if the asphalt has been sun-baked the entire day, and are dangerous to run at those temperatures.
My allaeason lavingator catchforce as sucked at 35º in 🇮🇹 at dangerous point. Corner i made at 120kmh whit summer the week before, now done at 80kmh and still feel not pointed to the asphalt. But now whit 5º fell grippier than summer in same temperature. I suggest premium beands whit directional threadpattern
I fitted my Wife's car with a set of Crossclimates, while still running summer tyres on mine and now the temperature has dropped I can feel the lack of grip if the road is even slightly damp ... Just wanted to say a huge thank you for helping to keep my family safe and keep up the good work
@@tudvalstoneI think you are missing the point, I was just stating that I can feel a difference between the Crossclimates and a traditional summer tyre, I can feel the difference between the two, when pulling away and braking in the damp / wet and no difference between them in the dry. I adjust my driving style to the conditions (so yes if it's wet I slow down)
As long as it doesn't snow/ice, you're good to drive even the most bold tires out there. Just don't drive like an idiot, or else no tire will save you from winning stupid trophies.
Great video indeed. Just got some summer tire with my new car, a week later big snow, the esp was always blinking but keep me on the road. Winter tyres uncoming
Dude, the summer tyres got the best dry braking at all temperatures (0-8 °C). Better than allseason and winter tyres, oO? Is this really scientific? Why do you have only 1 measurement per point? It's pure amateurism.
Best Tyre review video I've ever seen! I would like to see a similar video between all season and summer tyres at 15, 25 and 35 C° both wet and dry breaking.
Yeah I would like to know that too, I cannot find any crossclimate+ test at 20°C or 30, 35 So I do not know is it good in hot weather as summer tyre is?
Looking forward to the results. My reasons bore from experience of Perrelli's on my '85 XJS. At 50% or less wear, they where ugly to drive on. Extended braking dry and wet. Then I went to an American tire, "Cooper Cobra" ZR rated, and for the load range required for the heavy XJS. I could not be more satisfied, all tge way down to 80% wear. Cooper no longer makes that tire for the 15 inch rim. I will never put Perrelli on my XJS again. Will have to either go tova custum 17" rim, or buy a set of custom Road and Track tire for the 15" rim. But for performance purposes, I think a performance rating at 50% wear would be of interest for those drivers that want at least 75% of their purchase to be useful.
@@itsagoal182 Maybe not. Michelin boast about widening tread patterns as they wear (inverted V shape. I don't know about others. It's meant to mean longer life early on and lower performance degredation when worn but wearing faster towards the end of life.
Brilliant test, I was hoping you would do something like this! One tyre test I would like to see now is how different tyre pressures affect braking and handling
Slightly flawed test idea, and a good reason why you should use the correct size tyres for your vehicle and follow the owners handbook. I run my tyres at lower pressure when doing track days or at the drag strip, down to about 30psi with the tyres hot, from the manufacturers recommended 35psi when cool. The downside of that is that running that lower pressure on the street destroys the shoulders of the tyre, wearing them out far faster than the centre of the tread. Lower pressure = more rubber on the ground, because physics. Doesn't mean it's good for the tyres life span though!
15days ago the Tire Shop strangely pumped my tires to 1.9 and 2.0 instead of 2.4 and 2.5 I noticed imediatly this in consumption which decreased from 950km with a full tank to 720km. Now I have raised the pressure and the consumption its the same. Premium Contact6 and TS860
You guys recommended Michelin's Crossclimate last year and it's been fantastic for the conditions I experience where I live. I can't recommend others to what your channel enough, it's a public service!!! Keep up the good work xD
I have been swapping from summer to winter tires for about 4 years now. Everyone laughed at me saying it was a waste of money. Then it snowed and I was the only one driving around like nothing had happened. The roads were deserted except for a few abandoned cars, and me. They make an amazing difference in the snow and also when it gets cold. Summer tires you can feel start to skip and lose grip.
I've gotten that too. My parents used to live at the top of a long hill. My dad had a front wheel drive Escort wagon. I had mentioned snow tires to him and he decided to give them a try. During the winter he would make it up the hill while most of the SUV's were left at the bottom. A few years ago a coworker did not understand why anyone would use snow tires. I took him out in my Taurus SHO and we braked hard enough to lock up the seatbelt reels in the snow. I think that he understood after that.
@@alanhassall A lot of people seem to think that all tyres behave the same way. I'm not sure how they think that people in colder countries can drive on snow easily. I remember going to a supermarket when it snowed in the UK once. Everyone else had summer tyres and parked in the crowded snow-free part, but I parked in the middle of the deserted snow-covered section :D.
Good to hear that, exactly the same as me. Far more grip even on cold wet roads around 1 - 5 degrees C, without any snow. I remember getting strange looks as i went to work in a good depth of snow, as if people didn't seem to think it possible.
Also depends on how much you drive. I will consider all seasons on our secondary car. But on the family car, I just got me a new set of TS870 for a fair price. Mostly because they do well in the cold and wet. And to be fair, you will need to adapt your driving in winter conditions anyway.
I currently run conti TS 850 winter tires on my old station wagon. They are good enough for dry use, herrendous in the rain and on snow they behave well even with a trailer. For mountain and winter use, I recommend strongly winter tires, all seasons do the job but just barely so yeah...
I put winters on my car and noticed a massive improvement over the summer tyres which were really struggling in the cold and damp. I can't get cross-climates for my wheel size but I am very happy I made the investment in the winter tyres which have returned so much stability and grip.
I think a great test would be to use half worn tires. I find all seasons tend to do great in the snow the first year I use them and are drastically worse subsequently. I believe this has to do with a lot of the sipes not being full depth in the tread. When I use snow tires I find the drop off is more gradual as the tire wears.
Great, great information. Live in Lisbon, Portugal where doesn't snow and temperatures really never go below 8ºC and mostly go up 30ºC on summer, so after seeing this video I lost all fears of going along with summer tyres all year round!
What a great review, I love the science backed facts. Some conclusions from my perspective living in the west of Scotland an all season tyre makes sense for your average commuter who is not that particular about the increases in performance a quality good summer tyre will bring, more the balance across seasons and not to varied on differences at the wheel. Cross Climate /all season check!. I put these on my wife’s car where I on the other hand switch between UHP summer and full winter. The temperature question has like yourself has always bothered me on where it originates, now we have the science and the testing to back up. The OEM’s and manufacturer’s quite rightly didn’t bore the majority with detail not everyone is as pedantic about tyres than me, yourself and all other channel viewers than represent the 1% . Fantastic 👍
The main message I'm getting from this is that for normal UK driving, the Crossclimate is a staggeringly awesome tyre. Could be run all year round, or if you're an enthusiast, it's ideal to run in the winter, and swap to a high performance summer tyre for summer.
Agreed. We have Michelin Cross Climates on car and found them fantastic. Mixed driving through Wiltshire, Somerset, Devon and Gloucestershire and worth the money imo. Sadly Michelin don't make them in the right size for our other car.
The difference in grip in summer when running all seasons is manageable. But I'd much rather have all seasons in our 6-9 month autumn. Not a care in the world on those cold rainy days even if we do get a bit of snow. I'm running all seasons in the Netherlands all year round and will quite happily replace them with another set on the next change.
Thank you so much for these tests! I always switched between summer and winter tyres but never felt confident driving on the winter set. I always wondered if an all season tyre would perform better in cold conditions without snow. You're review came just in time for my "winter" set-up, thank you again!
Thanks for this video. There is one more thing to consider while choosing tires for the UK roads. In my experience winter tires comparing to summer or all season tires cope much better with a typical winter road debris like - rotten leaves, mud, some oily substances or all the mentioned mixed together. Additionally during UK's winter season the winter tires are much more consistent within the daily spectrum of temperatures. They feel almost the same at 7 degree C and, at 0 or even sub 0. Overall that is much safer than tires which within 10 degree C have noticeable performance difference. There is one thing to remember, tho. Winter tires comparing to some decent summer tires don't cope with deep water very well. On my summer tires I barely notice most of the puddles in my area while driving on winter set requires slowing down significantly to avoid big splashes and aquaplaning. Oh, and there's one more thing. In the UK number and depth of potholes increases drastically during winter. Thanks to a smaller rim size and higher tires profile my winter set of wheels helps drastically with comfort and minimalises rims damage.
WhatTyre.com's 2019 all-season and winter tyre guide adds further detail about the leading seasonal tyres: whattyre.com/news/what-are-all-season-and-winter-tyres/
Glad I switched to crossclimate tyres for myself and my son’s car 2years ago. And it’s all down to your brilliant videos! What price safety and piece of mind. Thank you so much!
So 0°C/32°F is an aspiration here in the upper midwest USA. Many days December through March can be 0F/-18C to 10F/-12C in the morning and not warm up much. Even on dry pavement, if the trends in the graphs continue, the summer/all season tires fall off a cliff compared to the winter tires. I have been slowly amassing winter tires for the family fleet - 2 sets of Blizzaks DMV2, WS70, 2 sets of Hankook, i*pike and i*cept, and a set of Nokian Hakkapelittas. They are all slightly different in their aims (Nordic, winter performance, etc.) but they have already proven themselves in several unexpected early-season snows. We'll find out.
El Marko Same problem here in Canada. Only Quebec makes winter tires mandatory for Dec to Apr or get a $300 fine. I am driving an AWD car fitted with all season tires. Wondering how these would perform in city driving with well plowed, salted streets. Not ideal I am sure, but is it adequate?
Got the crossclimate based on a previous review you did, by coincidence the guy who fit them also had crossclimate on his car. Delighted with them, excellent in all conditions. Didn’t notice any loss from the summer tyre, definitely better than a winter tyres in the UK. Having two sets just seems crazy when the crossclimate are as good as they are.
Working on and off-road in central Canada, the Nokian tires are garbage sadly. In pure winter they're not too bad. However during the shoulder season where we have mud mixed with ice during the mid-day and ice and frozen mud during the early morning and night, they provide no traction in the mud with trucks sliding sideways, terrible stopping, and the groove pattern becoming a big ball of mud. This is true other ice tires though. They're also not very good for deep snow traction. Having tried 10+ different tires over a decade, I'm sticking with the Cooper Discoverer M&S studded.
Tyre knowledge should be included in the driving tests/theory test in the UK and any other country. It is vital knowledge that could save your life. Many people have no idea there is different tyres for different kind of weather. Well done for trying to educate people about the safety when chosing tyres as that's the only thing that connect us to the road.
Indeed, its worrying to think most people just ask the tyre fitter for the cheapest and then they get some horrifically bad tyre from China like a Jinyu or Goodride. Those things are terrifying in the wet even when its warm.
I live on the side of a mountain which is generally 5-10 deg celsius colder than sea level areas in the colder months, and with alot more snow and frost. I use Hankook Kinergy 4S all season generally from mid-autumn , with Bridgestone Blizzak LM-32 for when the snow arrives. Fantastic tyres. (VW Passat)
At 69db in 195/65R15 they are much of a much when compared to others. Most all season tyres are between 69 and 72db on the noise rating. Plenty of summer tyres quieter, but of course plenty more louder.
@@roystratford4361 It's significance is greatly reduced in cabin compared to external. Because the rating is an external rating the relative difference experienced by the driver is closer to 5%
Thank you for your videos! Good job! One tip: What I would appreciate is to see also test of all tires (specially all seasons tires) in hot summer temperatures ideally on highway speed. Thank you!
Really cool test! I live in Sweden and I have tested my summer tires in the dry at -10.0 Celsius and they really owned my winter tires. (Contisport 6 vs. Hakkapeliitta 9) So I believe it has to be way colder for summer tires to be beaten in the dry, if ever.
My experience is that summer tires will always outperform winter tires on dry tarmac , but I have only tested it down to -15c but it will probably outperform winter tires on dry tarmac no matter how coold it gets... Problem is summer tires have 0 grip on ice and snow.
Some of us live where we actually get winter conditions. Not 0deg C. Here it's -10C or less for 3 months and mountains of snow. Why anyone would ever need winter tires for these type of conditions is laughable.
I've worked for Bridgestone's distribution warehouse in the Netherlands from 2003 till 2012 so I became a bit of a tire geek myself. And this video has answered a long time question that I had! Great videos, keep up the brilliant work!
i think they made it two years ago about the michelin "crossclimate" tire. They tested it on snow, so I got them. Where i live, there are usually two-four weeks of snowy/icy roads - perfect for my driving style. Using them as all season tires.
Jon, many thanks for a very useful video. I think the best and most useful section was when you mentioned about the Summer tyre not coping with the greasy corner on the cold surface. Which is a very common situation out here in the countryside. This will now be added to my small list of vids I show when teaching 4x4 driving. Locally I've been teaching the rural Policing team and they have been able to go back to base and use this type of information to get decent tyres on. Last year's stupidly named 'Beast from the East' they had 17 4x4 (mostly Soft-roaders) and couldn't use any of them as they had no traction. Your site and these videos help to get the message out. I personally run the Nokian Weatherproof SUV on my Range Rover, the Mrs' car has winters at the moment as she works on the edge of Dartomoor and often has icy roads. The kids cars have Nokian Weatherproof (rather than Mic CC+) for the muddy roads. I've just put on the Nokian Rotiiva AT Plus on the Defender 90 after many years of major AT brands.
Excellent test , but it would be really nice if you continued the test even further to see how the tyres would handle up to 30 degrees Celsius on wet and dry (of course summer tyres would be reference) I'm especially curious about the Michelin CrossClimate+
I got the Allseason contacts over 2 years ago when they came out. Beast from the East hit and with Quattro we were able to travel around no problems. Continental were cheaper than crossclimate and seemingly just as good. 30k miles on them and the front shoulders are close to the limit (hard cornering). Worth every penny.
@@georgeetoile6686 I'm in the UK, the Beast from the East was an unusual amount of snow for us. Quattro is Audi's AWD, this particular version is proper AWD with a torsen differential. Although snow isn't common, temperatures are often 0C/32F and in this rural area, muddy roads are common and the stipes in the tire help with grip. In the summer they work well too.
The E.E. channel didn't include All Weather variant if I am not mistaken. Sadly, the lap time measurement is far from scientific. That number, to me at least, is a useless measure. Also, stopping distances are to be taken with a "grain of salt" as the human factor is hard to eliminate.
@@skewty Agreed, for an actual scientific study they'd need to use a large test group of drivers and have each one make several runs with each tire. Then after averaging those numbers you'd be able to draw better conclusions. That way, you still have the human element (since humans are the ones behind the wheel, after all,) but you have more standardized stats based off of it. Still, an interesting video and fairly informative.
Disagree, you need one person who knows what they are doing for these tests, you have more control of the experiment and better consistency....he did this test right, by conducting repeat experiments. Having too many people would introduce more chances of error, you must have “control” of the experiment.
Of any car-related youtube channel I know, you might be the most informative. I mean, the information you provide can hardly be found anywhere else, this is so much more precious than the 35th test of the Taycan! (not to denigrate more classic car tests obviously) Thanks a lot.
Excellent video. Great information and recommendations. I myself use both summer and winter tyres and switch to and from between seasons. I have used the crossclimate and it works a treat in the dry and wet, the only downside I've found is when your in the countryside and the snow starts to get about 3 inches deep on the hills, they struggle for traction alot, the winter tyres I use (Ultragrip9) do not suffer the traction loss under these conditions. The only limiting factor tends to be ground clearance now. You get some funny looks when a Kia people carrier calmly climbs a hill on winter tyres when the local Land Rover Discovery's on their low profile sport tyres are stuck at the bottom. Keep up the good work!
Your reviews are why I have Winter tires for all my vehicles. I work in vehicle crash safety and some of the engineers question why I would put snow tires on a brand new 4x4 truck... Please keep spreading the word.
Blizzaks are my go-to winter tire and have been for several years now. I've tried others over the years and these have always been the ones I felt most comfortable driving on when things are at their worst; early season ice storms on dry pavement. That's the driving condition that as a Canadian I find most scary. When you get rain at -1 to -3C landing on dry payment... cold enough for it to freeze but warm enough that it doesn't happen instantly so there is a slick layer of water on smooth black ice. p.s. pro tip... I find winter tires are really only at their best the first couple seasons. So what I do is, buy a set of winter tires, mount them for a season, and then sell them used at the start of the following winter season; repeating the process. This way I always have fresh tires on the vehicle and actually end up spending less then I would had I bought a new set every 3ish years.
I run Blizzaks on my Escape awd. I live in Muskoka right off Georgian Bay. When the lakes get booming we get snow. I wouldn't use any other winter tire... by far best performance in all winter conditions
I am the person who buys the shortly used winter tires and runs them all year around beginning with 80% in winter providing still sufficient traction and finishing on 50% in the following summer when they are hard enough to keep grip even on hot surface.
These videos are incredible. Really going the extra mile to show people just how crucial it is to change your tires for extreme season changes. I’m from NY and we experience rain, shine, sleet, snow. I have purely dedicated summer tires for my Jetta in the summer and pure dedicated snow tires for winter. It makes a huge difference in just everyday driving and there is a huge weight taken off your chest when you know you have equipped your car to be used in its fullest potential in any condition. Also, I’m pretty sure you know this, but the summer tire you ran in this setup looks like our all seasons here in the US. Very similar tread pattern. We don’t have too many tires that look like the crossclimate that can kinda do both summer and winter.
Great video, the best you’ve released and very informative. I use dedicated summer and winter in Scotland, and I use the Conti TS-860, it’s great in the snow!, peace of mind in case we do get bad snow. Depends though, if you live in town you could get by with Summer and All seasons, but for rural, or for peace of mind, then summer and winters. Once again, this is a great video!, thank you.
I really missed the braking test in -7*C or even less... Now it's a bit ... What to drive during autumn /spring. What to do when its -10*C outside, this is the question. I know in UK you do not get such temperatures, but the rest of the world does.
@@cenariusbg It's easy to answer: winter tyres. The Nordic winter tyres are best on snow and ice, so if your driving is (almost) solely in that kind of environment, that's your choice. If you are having snow, frost, water and temperatures above and below 0° C, then the Central European style winter tyre suits probably better.
@@timoterava7108 I live in a town. We have snow cleaning machines - the road is 'dry' but -7*C today. It will get colder => -10*C / -15*C with no snow/ice. This is a test that I need. For 0*C and above it's clear - summer tyres.
Such excellent videos. Discovered your channel a week ago and can’t stop watching. Canada here, thanks for putting some numbers behind my feeling behind the wheel. I always felt that 7C was not precisely the cut off. Make me feels better when I am late putting on my winters…at least if it is not raining…
I had Pirelli Scorpion Verde All Season and switched to Cross Climates; they made it feel like a completely different car, so much quieter and smoother. They stop a lot better in the dry (summer) & I also feel they do stop better in the wet..... Be good to see how similar tyres compare to each other, maybe always using a set of Cross Climates as your test benchmark tyre.
Would've loved to see snow breaking test (although we get a pretty good picture of what the results would've been). What an amazing facility! Great video as always..
Thank you for this test, it makes me more comfortable on the road knowing that I have Vredestein Quatrac 5 tires instead of the Michelin Energy Saver. I didn't got the chance to test it in the snow, but the past 6 month the Vredestein did an awesome job compared tot the Michelin Energy Saver. I read some reactions here about tire wear, I am really interested in one of those tests. Maybe some recycle companies would love to work with you and deliver some second hand tires of one of those brands. Love the content on this page, you've won another subscriber :D
@Tyre reviews: we recently swapped our first series Michelin Crossclimate tyres to HANKOOK K4S2 based on your test and although the tyre feels slightly busy and "on edge" when driving swiftly the limits of actual grip and control in the wet have been astonishing! Taking the price difference into consideration I think the Hankook is probably an even better choice than the Michelin. Thanks for the huge amount of information and really interesting videos. All the best for the new year!
as others said; bought cross climate+ after your previous review for my Golf R; i thought they where fantastic, i'm now running them on a C43.. *South England, Eastbourne way*
This is a fantastic test, and a great addition to your previous recommendations. I live in Reykjavik, Iceland, and thanks to you I tried the CrossClimate Plus (as a summer tire) for the first time this summer, and was mighty impressed. Now we're into winter and every day I do my own little tests of how far I can push them, and am even MORE impressed. Where they fail (understandably) is in pure black ice on pavement, but careful driving still got me through that one evening, whereas I'm sure I would have been stuck on summer tires. Unless the weather drastically changes, I can wait to fit my Hakkapeliitta 9's until I drive up north for the holidays, but so far it looks like I've discovered the golden combo of the CC+'s 9 months a year, and the H9's 3 months a year, instead of summers for 4 months and H9's for 8 months. That saves my studs, and thus saves me from having to buy a new set of H9's every winter!
Great video - I love the access you get for these tests. I wanna go outside and hug my Crossclimates! I bought them, with the idea that i'd change back to my summer tyres in the spring but found them an all round better tyre than the Bridgestone Dueller tyres my car came with, so the Mich CC+ have been on the car for the last 12 months.
I buy crossclimate 2 year ago my god, what kind of tire Hold grip, quiet and make record low fuel consumption on my car I have Opel Astra 1.7CDTI (Isuzu engine) I got 3.9 L / 100 km on 10 year old Astra when I drive to Adriatic coast on regular road On the highway, consumption was about 4.1 L at 120 km/h
Interesting. Main reason I understood the 7°c rule was winter compounds would soften too much and cause excessive wear. Not so much the summer/all season tires. Yes they harden in the cold but after a couple minutes of driving, they will warm up and soften..... dont misunderstand that winter tires should be REQUIRED in certain areas. I live in Canada, but it's not mandatory in this part. Most people do use them and insurance companies offer discounts if you have them. But Quebec actually makes winter tires mandatory.
You're the best man, doing all the testing I've always wanted to do! I love you so much❤️ Keep it up! Definitely considering an all season as a winter tyre next time around, we barely get any snow here but it does drop to around 0°C on some roads I travel.
Great video. I live in Western Canada and have been running the Hakkapeliitta in the winter on my BMW for several years and it is a great tire. I always had the impression that one of the reasons to change to the winter tires below 7 DegC was because the tires would wear a lot faster above that, and hence if the temperatures rise for a bit I drive it conservatively, but I didn't realize that the braking would be affected so detrimentally by higher temperatures. Thanks for the excellent study!
Sooo much good info! This has help me making the decision from being torn between winter and all seasons winter setup... to not bother at all. If I could get cross climates as a run flat I probably would have.
Awesome as usual. One small thought though: While you are using the whole range of "winter season" tires, you only use one summer tire, which I would consider very standard. However, many cars run on UHP or HP tires by default. While you can't surely test every variation, it would have been interresting to see how a UHP compares to a standard summer in those conditions. Given my own experience with a PSS at 2 degrees, I'm sure the temperature curves would be a lot different - and the risks at cold temps a lot higher.
Thanks for the tests. When I was choosing winter tires people said that for my country (Ukraine) you need nordic winter tires. But because of your tests I understood I am probably better of with central european winters tires. One last thing that I would like you to check - Nordics vs CE Winters dry/snow during -20* C. We usually have about 1 day each winter with such temperatures.
After watching your previous reviews about tyres I listened to your advice. I have a set of 19 inch wheels with summer tyres and a set of 17 inch wheels with Goodyear 4 Seasons gen2. For south-east of England should be okay even if we get some snow. Thank you very much for the good videos and for the advice.
I have the Goodyear in 19’ , they are so much better than the Yokohama summer tires in the wet cold ; tried them in light snow last winter they felt as safe as my previous Michelin Alpin, but probably will prove less in heavy snow or ice.
I had Goodyear 4 years ago on a 3 series and could t believe the difference in snow. Wasnt frightened to go anywhere in the snow with those tyres on. After saying that. I took a chance this year by buying a set of Michelin cross climate (price dictated). If they are half as good as the goodyears I will be very happy
Great reviews as ever Jon. I drive about 20k miles a year in South UK and another 3k a year doing a winter road trip to the alps. I’ve always had dedicated winters and summers but circumstances have changed and storing a spare set of wheels is now a bit of a problem. Seeing this, I think I’ll be OK on CrossClimates for the UK year round and also to cover my winter road trip to the Alps. I understand it’s not ideal but I also don’t think it will be a disaster. Thanks again
This was great, really nice to see some in depth independent tests on various types of tyres. I've been running the Cross Climates (both the original and the Plus versions) for a few years now. Up around northern England/southern Scotland they have been great. As a daily driver tyre they feel no different to a summer tyre in the dry and give me that confidence on wet roads. I've driven in snow a few times with them... First time was a real success, getting our front wheel drive car up a snow and slush covered 13% incline and these were partially worn tyres as well, down to 3.0mm - 3.5mm. Was quite impressed. Another time was when the Beast from the East hit us and for whatever reason we had an inch thick slab of heavily compacted snow (more like ice than snow) underneath several inches of snow. Needless to say, the car didn't leave home for a few days as even after the roads had been somewhat cleared by local farmers, the tyres (fairly new ones this time) just had zero grip on the ice. Even the tractors were struggling to find grip it was that bad. But apart from the oddity that was the Beast from the East, they have done well in snow, powering us along roads where others got themselves stuck. I can highly recommend them as a tyre you can run all year round in most of the UK and I will be sticking with them for the foreseeable future. The wear rate has been good and on paper is better than the Conti all-seasons.
I have a matching spare set of M sport alloys fitted with Falken HS01s which served their first season last winter, they have been back on the car since the beginning of November and they really work, the summer wheels go back on in March, great videos and you don't need to convince me of the combination of summer tyres in the summer and winter tyres in the winter making the most sense, it really does
Thank you for this video. I’m in the southwest of USA and we generally use the all seasons tire (tyre). I was clueless about the summer tire. I will give these differences serious consideration in the future. As a woman, I like knowing if a mechanic is being honest.
Finally! I would love to see every review as scientific as this was. Congratulations and thanks! If I could drop a small idea, I would also love to see test old vs new tire, or old, barely usable winter vs new winter and so on.
@@tyrereviews You could get used tyres from a shop to show the difference in performance. As I understand MZVC asks for that, not wear resistance. Great video by the way! Makes me feel nice recommending CC to my sister and two weeks after installation the temp dive to sub 8°C with rains and light snow. I start thinking CC+ for my Vectra C but hot summers(35°C+) is a discouraging factor. Or isn't?
@@nikospsycharis7667 For wear testing you have to have the same age of tyres and have them worn in EXACTLY the same way for it to be fair. As for CC+ in +35c, they'll be fine, but not as good as a summer
I absolutely congratulate that this was a thorough test unlike anything ever done before. With that being said, this testing is still incomplete until you get to complete at colder temperatures like -20C, 0 degrees is not cold enough.
Very very good test, as always :) Coincides with my feelings i had in the last winters here in flatland east germany - as long as its dry (quite more often than in the UK), the winter tires always felt less sure footed than the summer tires. especially on a sunny november/march day were asphalt temperatures rise above 8-10°. and especially if people cheap out on the winter tires and get some middle of the range ones in the smallest size possible for the car. the option to go summer biased all-season for the winter is quite interesting. best performance for 95% of the time, and the few days there is actually snow on the road you simply drive a bit more carefully.
This is what I have plan to do as I do not like the squirmy winter tires. Would you say that All Season tires feel more precise and sporty than winter tires during the winter months?
Another fantastic, interesting video. We're in SE England and fitted Continental All Season Contacts to our Golf based on your recommendation - we wanted an all season with a more winter bias that we could leave on longer throughout the year without thinking about it. Been very impressed with them, although I wouldn't expect miracles in snow/ice. Cheers all.
Great test, really helpful in decision taking; However as the climate changed quite much within the last years and we have like cold winters with -10 to -20 C and +30-38 in the summer, I would be curious how an "All seasons" tire would behave at that high temperatures. Just to understand if it is an option even in really high temperatures.
I am in the same position, to have two sets or just CrossClimate2. My only concern is how do they respond in hot summer scenario. Would be a great test.
@@AdrianNKA I was faced with the same decision. Either CrossClimate 2 or Alpin 6. Since in the future the winter is getting colder and the summer is getting hotter, I opted for the winter tires Alpin 6. The extra charge is worth to me.
@@AdrianNKA and @SWiSSlLiX The Crossclimate2s thend to perform within a few percentages of the Primacy in warm weather. I've put about 20k miles of spring, summer, and fall driving on mine and can honestly say they're the best "all season" out there. I also have Blizzak DM-V2s for winter, but have been feeling less and less like they're a necessity.
@@ouisi7 I have bought the CrossClimate², they are amazing at 0-15°C. That's all I can say for now, I have only 3000km with them, in this winter. Never drove on snow, though. Looking for the summer :)
I own the Kleber Quadraxer 2 (all season tires, Micheline sub-brand). They withstand pretty well to two 40+ degree summers in mid Italy, with reasonable performance and no visible wear or damage. The crossclimate are even better than the Kleber, especially in summer condition.
Thx, very informative! Please do this again in warmer conditions (it would be a fortune now in heating cost's to get the facility to summer temperature's, but maybe in the summer) with the same tyres. Would be very informative how the winter and all season tyres perform in the hot (many people in my country stay on winter tyres all year).
Yes, absolutely, and if possible something about wear and how they perform in winter after a season of hot weather. I have the impression that people think they save money by using only one set of tires, but suspect the wear of softer rubbers at least evens the cost.
Great video, thank you. Living in French Brittany with wet and not so cold winter, the tyre of choice is of course Michelin Crossclimate. Great under the rain, good in the summer, that's the real 4 seasons tyre every driver would expect.
I run just like you recommended, Summer tyres above 7C, below I run the Crossclimates. Most of the colder months it is just cold and wet, perfect for the all season tyre.
The CrossClimate+ is the best tyre for most UK drivers - forget about swapping tyres in summer and winter - it can easily be 15C in the UK during the day and -2C at night - are people going to swap their tyre day and night? This is the best day & night tyre.
The important factor in this testing it the road and tire temperature, which are always going to be higher than the ambient air temperature. That's why the rule is average temperature. Here in Canada, it takes several days of well below freezing average temperature for the roads to freeze. What you really need to watch out for here is getting winters on before the first snow of the year, otherwise you are screwed going to work on snowy slush, and screwed coming back on slushy water. And if it doesn't all melt and dry before the road freeze you are screwed doing anything on icy roads.
@@wyattroncin941 I'm from Minnesota, so I was wondering what your thoughts were regarding all season VS winter, etc? Pretty sure what I have are all season tires but idk.
@@101jir For Minnesota, your are almost certainly fine with just all seasons, that's what most people run, even in Manitoba. It's definitely a plus to have a set of summer/3-season and winters, but don't worry about it until your current tires are getting worn out or you feel like they just aren't doing the job in winter.
I can imagine it was a bit terrifying trying to push snow lap times in basically a walled tunnel with no run off? Just gone crossclimate+ for my winter replacement set so happy with your conclusions.
Hello all. I have had the Dunlop Sport all sesson tyres for abour 2 years. I live in the south of spain and I travel sometimes to the north of Spain and France in winter so I decided to put all season tyres. I can explain you all my experience and the tyres have today, (May 2024), 37.500km of used. Here in summer its really hoy, like more than 40°C and I drive a lot in summer. I usually drive at 120-140km/h and no problems at all. I can brake like with summer tyres. Last winter I test the tyres with lot of water and ice in -5 °C and I can feel more secure than with the last summer tyres I had (Summer Dunlop Sport Blue response). Now I still can use the tyres like sunmer ones, but I need to replace it if I want to go through snow, so I will change the tyres in July or August of this year. Hope this information help some of you and If you like it please upvote it 👍🏻 so many people can read it. Regards!! Edit: I check for tyres pressure once a month to ensure all the pressure are ok. I have a Kia ProCeed with 136hp and the pressure its 38psi in front wheels and 36psi in the back.
Thank you for the test. Well done. I use the Nokian WR DR4 during the winter (it's amazing on snow and wet roads). I always change my tires when temperatures drop to about 5-10 deg. C and I expect to drive on wet roads.
Been using winter / summer tyre combo swapping out at the end of Nov and end of Feb. From this data though might look at putting on some CrossClimate tyres when the winter tyres need replacing :)
I've been running a set of Falken EuroAllSeason M+S 3P on my Kia Soul for over a year now, replacing the OEM Nexen Blue summer tyres. Observations are that the handling of the car has improved significantly, giving much more confidence. MPG increased during the summer months in comparison. In the rain, the tyre especially at speed has been excellent too. I live in the countryside so muddy roads are common, and the tyre retains confidence on all surfaces. Driving off road on mushy grass has posed no problem. Rarely see snow so can't cannot yet.....
It's about time UK law was changed to have CrossClimate+ type of tires fitted as standard on most new cars. The UK is not suited to having Summer tires for Joe average who knows nothing about cars. Such a switch would probably reduce accidents as the results across a variety of driving situations would be more predicable for most people
Very good information here. Confirms what my 40 plus years of driving had led me to believe. Because we get lots of snowy days, I do run a dedicated winter tire. Unfortunately the only winter tire available here in Southern Ontario that is the 195/75R14 size my old Volvo needs is the Uniroyal Tiger Paw Ice and Snow. It is nowhere near as good in any conditions and the Nokian Haakapilliitta we used to run in winter, but still better than the best of our M+S, which is our "all season", and the winter rated all weather.
I would love a test of the Crossclimate+ in hot summer temperatures. I have CC+ fitted to my car, and they feel a bit squishy when the tarmac is very hot (30+c). So while it feels great for the typical weather here in Denmark (which is very similar to UK), the summer drive to southern europe feels a bit compromised as the temperatures are much higher.
I would love to see that test, too :) In Romania we have 35°C or more in summer and -15°C or less in winter. Would CrossClimate² be good for this scenario?
100% professional test as always. This test is very valuable not only in Britain. I live in north Poland next to the sea, where we don't have such snowy winters for many years now. Most of the time temperature it is around 0, and we have more rainy days than snowy. Even in the summer there are only few weeks with temperature over 20-25 celcius, and lots of rainy days. It looks like for this climate best option is to have all season or even summer bias all season tyre than having 2 sets of tire.
Great vid Jon! Even my wife watched it and gained useful insight, which neither of us expected! She was getting up to go to bed then sat on edge of settee glued 😆 Great to validate my stance which is also the same as you, all season are a more balanced 'winter' tyre for our climate. Hence, a set of Quatrac 5 just gone on. Also let me say just try that test with primacy 3 instead of premium 6's... they harden up so much they become a budget tyre below 4°c and get uncomfortably slippery in the wet, never mind frost/ice where they pretty much dont even try to purchase to begin with... I dread to think of all the clueless drivers out there who also have no feel for their vehicle who are on same/similar tyres, its astounding we dont get so many more accidents.
I got Crossclimate+ on my Golf IV and I really can not describe how good they are. I used them for 70 000 km and they still have had 3.5 mm on them. Should also say that I live in Croatia so we have minus 10 with the snow and ice in the winter and plus 40 in the summer. They were so good that I got another set last month. Worth every penny. Great review, keep up the good work.
@John Hooper As I said in previous comment, last month I got another NEW set. Also, in Croatia you must have 4 mm only if you are driving summer tyres with chains. We are allowed 3 mm on winter tires by law.
This is prolly a necro, but I'm interested how do they behave in summer heat? Do they scorch on the heat a become a bit too hard for the winter driving or they are fine goding from -10 to +35 C"
This one's up there among the most useful videos to ever appear on UA-cam.
it busted a myth that summer is always bad in winter - dry braking is better than any other tyre
What about doing the same test at 30 degrees? It would be very interesting to see what the all season tyres can do during the summer.
I was wondering this same thing
Would be great to see +30 and -30. This way we could truly determine how dedicated tyres stack against all season
@@SnakeEyesSwimThe all season tires' rubber (and also the central-european winter to some degree) is not soft enough at those temperatures and will start to act more like a summer tire, at those temperatures you definitely need a nordic tire.
Nordic winter tires will rapidly start degrading and failing at 30C, especially if the asphalt has been sun-baked the entire day, and are dangerous to run at those temperatures.
My allaeason lavingator catchforce as sucked at 35º in 🇮🇹 at dangerous point. Corner i made at 120kmh whit summer the week before, now done at 80kmh and still feel not pointed to the asphalt. But now whit 5º fell grippier than summer in same temperature. I suggest premium beands whit directional threadpattern
I’m guessing that would take a huge amount of energy to heat a warehouse to such cold and hot temperatures.
I fitted my Wife's car with a set of Crossclimates, while still running summer tyres on mine and now the temperature has dropped I can feel the lack of grip if the road is even slightly damp ... Just wanted to say a huge thank you for helping to keep my family safe and keep up the good work
Stupid
Can you slow down 10 km/h when it's cold/wet and get a grip? Maybe not possible where you live, just a suggestion.
@@tudvalstoneI think you are missing the point, I was just stating that I can feel a difference between the Crossclimates and a traditional summer tyre, I can feel the difference between the two, when pulling away and braking in the damp / wet and no difference between them in the dry. I adjust my driving style to the conditions (so yes if it's wet I slow down)
As long as it doesn't snow/ice, you're good to drive even the most bold tires out there. Just don't drive like an idiot, or else no tire will save you from winning stupid trophies.
@@vitaminb4869
I'd suggest driving on bald tyres is stupid...
06:09 wet braking comparison
08:05 snow lap time comparison
09:05 dry braking comparison
Thank You.
thanks broooo
Wow, what an impressive testing facility! And what a fantastic, scientific review!
Test World in an incredible place!
@ DasHalbblut ... I was about to write the exact same comment 👍🏼👌🏼
@@MattCSLnut Just wondering who sponsor and paid for this test? Hope not Michelin or any other tyre manufacturer.
Great video indeed. Just got some summer tire with my new car, a week later big snow, the esp was always blinking but keep me on the road. Winter tyres uncoming
Dude, the summer tyres got the best dry braking at all temperatures (0-8 °C). Better than allseason and winter tyres, oO?
Is this really scientific? Why do you have only 1 measurement per point? It's pure amateurism.
Best Tyre review video I've ever seen! I would like to see a similar video between all season and summer tyres at 15, 25 and 35 C° both wet and dry breaking.
I'd love to, but would be so expensive to do!
Yeah I would like to know that too, I cannot find any crossclimate+ test at 20°C or 30, 35 So I do not know is it good in hot weather as summer tyre is?
@@tyrereviews all the southern and eastern Europe would be grateful :)
Do the same test, but with 50% wear on all tested sets of tires (tyres).
This is naturally the evolution of this test. Excellent content.
Working on it, wearing tyres out equally is very expensive though
Would be similar results barring in very wet conditions (3D volume for water displacement is worse), but 2D foot print the same.
Looking forward to the results. My reasons bore from experience of Perrelli's on my '85 XJS. At 50% or less wear, they where ugly to drive on. Extended braking dry and wet. Then I went to an American tire, "Cooper Cobra" ZR rated, and for the load range required for the heavy XJS. I could not be more satisfied, all tge way down to 80% wear. Cooper no longer makes that tire for the 15 inch rim. I will never put Perrelli on my XJS again. Will have to either go tova custum 17" rim, or buy a set of custom Road and Track tire for the 15" rim.
But for performance purposes, I think a performance rating at 50% wear would be of interest for those drivers that want at least 75% of their purchase to be useful.
@@itsagoal182 Maybe not. Michelin boast about widening tread patterns as they wear (inverted V shape. I don't know about others.
It's meant to mean longer life early on and lower performance degredation when worn but wearing faster towards the end of life.
Brilliant test, I was hoping you would do something like this!
One tyre test I would like to see now is how different tyre pressures affect braking and handling
I'll add it to the list :)
@@tyrereviews And to be exhaustif, impact on fuel consuption and mileage would be perfrect!
You read my mind, pressures, what that does to all different tires braking and handling, and what fredhug said here, consumption!
Slightly flawed test idea, and a good reason why you should use the correct size tyres for your vehicle and follow the owners handbook. I run my tyres at lower pressure when doing track days or at the drag strip, down to about 30psi with the tyres hot, from the manufacturers recommended 35psi when cool. The downside of that is that running that lower pressure on the street destroys the shoulders of the tyre, wearing them out far faster than the centre of the tread. Lower pressure = more rubber on the ground, because physics. Doesn't mean it's good for the tyres life span though!
15days ago the
Tire Shop strangely pumped my tires to 1.9 and 2.0 instead of 2.4 and 2.5 I noticed imediatly this in consumption which decreased from 950km with a full tank to 720km. Now I have raised the pressure and the consumption its the same. Premium Contact6 and TS860
“Turns out the multi billion dollar companies knows some thing about tyre”
That quote thou. 😂
Damn smart businesses :(
You guys recommended Michelin's Crossclimate last year and it's been fantastic for the conditions I experience where I live. I can't recommend others to what your channel enough, it's a public service!!! Keep up the good work xD
Glad you're getting on with them!
Firebrand Agree 100% 👍🏼
Where do you live?
You stay in england ...lol ...not sweeden
twotube family Don’t know what you mean - but it’s Sweden not Sweeden
I have been swapping from summer to winter tires for about 4 years now. Everyone laughed at me saying it was a waste of money. Then it snowed and I was the only one driving around like nothing had happened. The roads were deserted except for a few abandoned cars, and me.
They make an amazing difference in the snow and also when it gets cold. Summer tires you can feel start to skip and lose grip.
I've gotten that too. My parents used to live at the top of a long hill. My dad had a front wheel drive Escort wagon. I had mentioned snow tires to him and he decided to give them a try. During the winter he would make it up the hill while most of the SUV's were left at the bottom. A few years ago a coworker did not understand why anyone would use snow tires. I took him out in my Taurus SHO and we braked hard enough to lock up the seatbelt reels in the snow. I think that he understood after that.
@@alanhassall A lot of people seem to think that all tyres behave the same way. I'm not sure how they think that people in colder countries can drive on snow easily. I remember going to a supermarket when it snowed in the UK once. Everyone else had summer tyres and parked in the crowded snow-free part, but I parked in the middle of the deserted snow-covered section :D.
Good to hear that, exactly the same as me. Far more grip even on cold wet roads around 1 - 5 degrees C, without any snow.
I remember getting strange looks as i went to work in a good depth of snow, as if people didn't seem to think it possible.
Also depends on how much you drive. I will consider all seasons on our secondary car. But on the family car, I just got me a new set of TS870 for a fair price. Mostly because they do well in the cold and wet. And to be fair, you will need to adapt your driving in winter conditions anyway.
I currently run conti TS 850 winter tires on my old station wagon.
They are good enough for dry use, herrendous in the rain and on snow they behave well even with a trailer.
For mountain and winter use, I recommend strongly winter tires, all seasons do the job but just barely so yeah...
I put winters on my car and noticed a massive improvement over the summer tyres which were really struggling in the cold and damp. I can't get cross-climates for my wheel size but I am very happy I made the investment in the winter tyres which have returned so much stability and grip.
I think a great test would be to use half worn tires. I find all seasons tend to do great in the snow the first year I use them and are drastically worse subsequently. I believe this has to do with a lot of the sipes not being full depth in the tread.
When I use snow tires I find the drop off is more gradual as the tire wears.
Great, great information. Live in Lisbon, Portugal where doesn't snow and temperatures really never go below 8ºC and mostly go up 30ºC on summer, so after seeing this video I lost all fears of going along with summer tyres all year round!
What a great review, I love the science backed facts. Some conclusions from my perspective living in the west of Scotland an all season tyre makes sense for your average commuter who is not that particular about the increases in performance a quality good summer tyre will bring, more the balance across seasons and not to varied on differences at the wheel. Cross Climate /all season check!. I put these on my wife’s car where I on the other hand switch between UHP summer and full winter. The temperature question has like yourself has always bothered me on where it originates, now we have the science and the testing to back up. The OEM’s and manufacturer’s quite rightly didn’t bore the majority with detail not everyone is as pedantic about tyres than me, yourself and all other channel viewers than represent the 1% . Fantastic 👍
The main message I'm getting from this is that for normal UK driving, the Crossclimate is a staggeringly awesome tyre. Could be run all year round, or if you're an enthusiast, it's ideal to run in the winter, and swap to a high performance summer tyre for summer.
Agreed. We have Michelin Cross Climates on car and found them fantastic. Mixed driving through Wiltshire, Somerset, Devon and Gloucestershire and worth the money imo. Sadly Michelin don't make them in the right size for our other car.
The difference in grip in summer when running all seasons is manageable. But I'd much rather have all seasons in our 6-9 month autumn. Not a care in the world on those cold rainy days even if we do get a bit of snow. I'm running all seasons in the Netherlands all year round and will quite happily replace them with another set on the next change.
Thank you so much for these tests! I always switched between summer and winter tyres but never felt confident driving on the winter set. I always wondered if an all season tyre would perform better in cold conditions without snow. You're review came just in time for my "winter" set-up, thank you again!
Glad it was useful :)
Thanks for this video. There is one more thing to consider while choosing tires for the UK roads. In my experience winter tires comparing to summer or all season tires cope much better with a typical winter road debris like - rotten leaves, mud, some oily substances or all the mentioned mixed together. Additionally during UK's winter season the winter tires are much more consistent within the daily spectrum of temperatures. They feel almost the same at 7 degree C and, at 0 or even sub 0. Overall that is much safer than tires which within 10 degree C have noticeable performance difference. There is one thing to remember, tho. Winter tires comparing to some decent summer tires don't cope with deep water very well. On my summer tires I barely notice most of the puddles in my area while driving on winter set requires slowing down significantly to avoid big splashes and aquaplaning. Oh, and there's one more thing. In the UK number and depth of potholes increases drastically during winter. Thanks to a smaller rim size and higher tires profile my winter set of wheels helps drastically with comfort and minimalises rims damage.
WhatTyre.com's 2019 all-season and winter tyre guide adds further detail about the leading seasonal tyres: whattyre.com/news/what-are-all-season-and-winter-tyres/
Glad I switched to crossclimate tyres for myself and my son’s car 2years ago. And it’s all down to your brilliant videos! What price safety and piece of mind. Thank you so much!
So 0°C/32°F is an aspiration here in the upper midwest USA. Many days December through March can be 0F/-18C to 10F/-12C in the morning and not warm up much. Even on dry pavement, if the trends in the graphs continue, the summer/all season tires fall off a cliff compared to the winter tires. I have been slowly amassing winter tires for the family fleet - 2 sets of Blizzaks DMV2, WS70, 2 sets of Hankook, i*pike and i*cept, and a set of Nokian Hakkapelittas. They are all slightly different in their aims (Nordic, winter performance, etc.) but they have already proven themselves in several unexpected early-season snows. We'll find out.
El Marko Same problem here in Canada. Only Quebec makes winter tires mandatory for Dec to Apr or get a $300 fine. I am driving an AWD car fitted with all season tires. Wondering how these would perform in city driving with well plowed, salted streets. Not ideal I am sure, but is it adequate?
Got the crossclimate based on a previous review you did, by coincidence the guy who fit them also had crossclimate on his car.
Delighted with them, excellent in all conditions. Didn’t notice any loss from the summer tyre, definitely better than a winter tyres in the UK. Having two sets just seems crazy when the crossclimate are as good as they are.
Working on and off-road in central Canada, the Nokian tires are garbage sadly. In pure winter they're not too bad. However during the shoulder season where we have mud mixed with ice during the mid-day and ice and frozen mud during the early morning and night, they provide no traction in the mud with trucks sliding sideways, terrible stopping, and the groove pattern becoming a big ball of mud. This is true other ice tires though. They're also not very good for deep snow traction. Having tried 10+ different tires over a decade, I'm sticking with the Cooper Discoverer M&S studded.
Tyre knowledge should be included in the driving tests/theory test in the UK and any other country. It is vital knowledge that could save your life. Many people have no idea there is different tyres for different kind of weather.
Well done for trying to educate people about the safety when chosing tyres as that's the only thing that connect us to the road.
Indeed, its worrying to think most people just ask the tyre fitter for the cheapest and then they get some horrifically bad tyre from China like a Jinyu or Goodride. Those things are terrifying in the wet even when its warm.
I live on the side of a mountain which is generally 5-10 deg celsius colder than sea level areas in the colder months, and with alot more snow and frost. I use Hankook Kinergy 4S all season generally from mid-autumn , with Bridgestone Blizzak LM-32 for when the snow arrives. Fantastic tyres. (VW Passat)
Good review. I've had Cross Climates on my last 2 cars, best, quietest tyres I've had. Gives me confidence during winter.
At 69db in 195/65R15 they are much of a much when compared to others. Most all season tyres are between 69 and 72db on the noise rating.
Plenty of summer tyres quieter, but of course plenty more louder.
@@bremCZ 3db is quite significant, it equates to 23% louder.
@@roystratford4361 It's significance is greatly reduced in cabin compared to external. Because the rating is an external rating the relative difference experienced by the driver is closer to 5%
Thank you for your videos! Good job! One tip: What I would appreciate is to see also test of all tires (specially all seasons tires) in hot summer temperatures ideally on highway speed. Thank you!
Check the all season test from 2020
Really cool test! I live in Sweden and I have tested my summer tires in the dry at -10.0 Celsius and they really owned my winter tires. (Contisport 6 vs. Hakkapeliitta 9) So I believe it has to be way colder for summer tires to be beaten in the dry, if ever.
My experience is that summer tires will always outperform winter tires on dry tarmac , but I have only tested it down to -15c but it will probably outperform winter tires on dry tarmac no matter how coold it gets... Problem is summer tires have 0 grip on ice and snow.
This is one of the best test/tester for summer vs all season vs winters
Who dislikes this? So much work put in this. Very well done, thank you for your effort.
Some of us live where we actually get winter conditions. Not 0deg C. Here it's -10C or less for 3 months and mountains of snow. Why anyone would ever need winter tires for these type of conditions is laughable.
I've worked for Bridgestone's distribution warehouse in the Netherlands from 2003 till 2012 so I became a bit of a tire geek myself. And this video has answered a long time question that I had! Great videos, keep up the brilliant work!
Thank you :)
Winter Performance vs All Season performance tires would be an interesting test
and vs studless winter!
I think he already did that. I'm sure I watched it.
i think they made it two years ago about the michelin "crossclimate" tire. They tested it on snow, so I got them. Where i live, there are usually two-four weeks of snowy/icy roads - perfect for my driving style. Using them as all season tires.
Winter performance is the Continental TS860. And he didn't test an American all-season tire. He did that on a different video.
@@shellderp All the winter tires used are studless.
Jon, many thanks for a very useful video. I think the best and most useful section was when you mentioned about the Summer tyre not coping with the greasy corner on the cold surface. Which is a very common situation out here in the countryside.
This will now be added to my small list of vids I show when teaching 4x4 driving. Locally I've been teaching the rural Policing team and they have been able to go back to base and use this type of information to get decent tyres on. Last year's stupidly named 'Beast from the East' they had 17 4x4 (mostly Soft-roaders) and couldn't use any of them as they had no traction. Your site and these videos help to get the message out. I personally run the Nokian Weatherproof SUV on my Range Rover, the Mrs' car has winters at the moment as she works on the edge of Dartomoor and often has icy roads. The kids cars have Nokian Weatherproof (rather than Mic CC+) for the muddy roads. I've just put on the Nokian Rotiiva AT Plus on the Defender 90 after many years of major AT brands.
Thanks for the kind words. I'm looking at doing more 4x4 content this year so hopefully it'll be useful
Excellent test , but it would be really nice if you continued the test even further to see how the tyres would handle up to 30 degrees Celsius on wet and dry (of course summer tyres would be reference) I'm especially curious about the Michelin CrossClimate+
I would like to know the same thing
They get super soft and almost melt
I got the Allseason contacts over 2 years ago when they came out. Beast from the East hit and with Quattro we were able to travel around no problems. Continental were cheaper than crossclimate and seemingly just as good. 30k miles on them and the front shoulders are close to the limit (hard cornering). Worth every penny.
MaxGentleman Can we assume you live in northern US? Is Quattro the same as AWD?
@@georgeetoile6686 I'm in the UK, the Beast from the East was an unusual amount of snow for us. Quattro is Audi's AWD, this particular version is proper AWD with a torsen differential.
Although snow isn't common, temperatures are often 0C/32F and in this rural area, muddy roads are common and the stipes in the tire help with grip.
In the summer they work well too.
This is Engineering Explained but with a budget
The E.E. channel didn't include All Weather variant if I am not mistaken. Sadly, the lap time measurement is far from scientific. That number, to me at least, is a useless measure. Also, stopping distances are to be taken with a "grain of salt" as the human factor is hard to eliminate.
As in bigger budget
@@skewty Agreed, for an actual scientific study they'd need to use a large test group of drivers and have each one make several runs with each tire. Then after averaging those numbers you'd be able to draw better conclusions. That way, you still have the human element (since humans are the ones behind the wheel, after all,) but you have more standardized stats based off of it. Still, an interesting video and fairly informative.
Disagree, you need one person who knows what they are doing for these tests, you have more control of the experiment and better consistency....he did this test right, by conducting repeat experiments.
Having too many people would introduce more chances of error, you must have “control” of the experiment.
The videos are paid for by tyre manufacturers, have you noticed how Pirelli haven't been mentioned on the channel in months?
Of any car-related youtube channel I know, you might be the most informative.
I mean, the information you provide can hardly be found anywhere else, this is so much more precious than the 35th test of the Taycan! (not to denigrate more classic car tests obviously)
Thanks a lot.
Thank you :) Jason at Engineering Explained is also excellent for good information!
@@tyrereviews Indeed
Excellent video. Great information and recommendations.
I myself use both summer and winter tyres and switch to and from between seasons.
I have used the crossclimate and it works a treat in the dry and wet, the only downside I've found is when your in the countryside and the snow starts to get about 3 inches deep on the hills, they struggle for traction alot, the winter tyres I use (Ultragrip9) do not suffer the traction loss under these conditions. The only limiting factor tends to be ground clearance now.
You get some funny looks when a Kia people carrier calmly climbs a hill on winter tyres when the local Land Rover Discovery's on their low profile sport tyres are stuck at the bottom.
Keep up the good work!
Glad you're enjoying your tyres :)
Your reviews are why I have Winter tires for all my vehicles. I work in vehicle crash safety and some of the engineers question why I would put snow tires on a brand new 4x4 truck... Please keep spreading the word.
This deserves a lot more views, it is enlightening.
Blizzaks are my go-to winter tire and have been for several years now. I've tried others over the years and these have always been the ones I felt most comfortable driving on when things are at their worst; early season ice storms on dry pavement. That's the driving condition that as a Canadian I find most scary. When you get rain at -1 to -3C landing on dry payment... cold enough for it to freeze but warm enough that it doesn't happen instantly so there is a slick layer of water on smooth black ice.
p.s. pro tip... I find winter tires are really only at their best the first couple seasons. So what I do is, buy a set of winter tires, mount them for a season, and then sell them used at the start of the following winter season; repeating the process. This way I always have fresh tires on the vehicle and actually end up spending less then I would had I bought a new set every 3ish years.
I run Blizzaks on my Escape awd. I live in Muskoka right off Georgian Bay. When the lakes get booming we get snow. I wouldn't use any other winter tire... by far best performance in all winter conditions
I am the person who buys the shortly used winter tires and runs them all year around beginning with 80% in winter providing still sufficient traction and finishing on 50% in the following summer when they are hard enough to keep grip even on hot surface.
This is the single most brilliant tyre review video. Every driver need to watch this. :) Thank you.
These videos are incredible. Really going the extra mile to show people just how crucial it is to change your tires for extreme season changes. I’m from NY and we experience rain, shine, sleet, snow. I have purely dedicated summer tires for my Jetta in the summer and pure dedicated snow tires for winter. It makes a huge difference in just everyday driving and there is a huge weight taken off your chest when you know you have equipped your car to be used in its fullest potential in any condition.
Also, I’m pretty sure you know this, but the summer tire you ran in this setup looks like our all seasons here in the US. Very similar tread pattern. We don’t have too many tires that look like the crossclimate that can kinda do both summer and winter.
You're all seasons should be called "three seasons" :) Different compound though, our summers have much better wet grip than your all seasons
Tyre Reviews Yeah, just good enough for 3 seasons.
Great video, the best you’ve released and very informative.
I use dedicated summer and winter in Scotland, and I use the Conti TS-860, it’s great in the snow!, peace of mind in case we do get bad snow.
Depends though, if you live in town you could get by with Summer and All seasons, but for rural, or for peace of mind, then summer and winters.
Once again, this is a great video!, thank you.
One of the best and most credible tyre tests I've seen. Thank you from Denmark!
Best and complete test ever about tires!
What a shame there wasn't snow breaking nad dry&wet breaking at 25-35°c.Almost perfect test
I really missed the braking test in -7*C or even less... Now it's a bit ... What to drive during autumn /spring. What to do when its -10*C outside, this is the question. I know in UK you do not get such temperatures, but the rest of the world does.
@Ali Toygar Haykır Who the heck would use anything but a summer tyre in temperatures that hot?
@@cenariusbg It's easy to answer: winter tyres.
The Nordic winter tyres are best on snow and ice, so if your driving is (almost) solely in that kind of environment, that's your choice.
If you are having snow, frost, water and temperatures above and below 0° C, then the Central European style winter tyre suits probably better.
@@timoterava7108 I live in a town. We have snow cleaning machines - the road is 'dry' but -7*C today. It will get colder => -10*C / -15*C with no snow/ice. This is a test that I need. For 0*C and above it's clear - summer tyres.
Such excellent videos. Discovered your channel a week ago and can’t stop watching.
Canada here, thanks for putting some numbers behind my feeling behind the wheel. I always felt that 7C was not precisely the cut off. Make me feels better when I am late putting on my winters…at least if it is not raining…
Glad you like them!
I had Pirelli Scorpion Verde All Season and switched to Cross Climates; they made it feel like a completely different car, so much quieter and smoother. They stop a lot better in the dry (summer) & I also feel they do stop better in the wet.....
Be good to see how similar tyres compare to each other, maybe always using a set of Cross Climates as your test benchmark tyre.
Would've loved to see snow breaking test (although we get a pretty good picture of what the results would've been). What an amazing facility! Great video as always..
We ran out of time sadly, they have amazing indoor and outdoor snow braking tracks
Thank you for this test, it makes me more comfortable on the road knowing that I have Vredestein Quatrac 5 tires instead of the Michelin Energy Saver.
I didn't got the chance to test it in the snow, but the past 6 month the Vredestein did an awesome job compared tot the Michelin Energy Saver.
I read some reactions here about tire wear, I am really interested in one of those tests. Maybe some recycle companies would love to work with you and deliver some second hand tires of one of those brands.
Love the content on this page, you've won another subscriber :D
@Tyre reviews: we recently swapped our first series Michelin Crossclimate tyres to HANKOOK K4S2 based on your test and although the tyre feels slightly busy and "on edge" when driving swiftly the limits of actual grip and control in the wet have been astonishing! Taking the price difference into consideration I think the Hankook is probably an even better choice than the Michelin. Thanks for the huge amount of information and really interesting videos. All the best for the new year!
Awesome :) If you fancy leaving a review over at www.tyrereviews.com that would be great :)
as others said; bought cross climate+ after your previous review for my Golf R; i thought they where fantastic, i'm now running them on a C43.. *South England, Eastbourne way*
This is a fantastic test, and a great addition to your previous recommendations. I live in Reykjavik, Iceland, and thanks to you I tried the CrossClimate Plus (as a summer tire) for the first time this summer, and was mighty impressed. Now we're into winter and every day I do my own little tests of how far I can push them, and am even MORE impressed. Where they fail (understandably) is in pure black ice on pavement, but careful driving still got me through that one evening, whereas I'm sure I would have been stuck on summer tires. Unless the weather drastically changes, I can wait to fit my Hakkapeliitta 9's until I drive up north for the holidays, but so far it looks like I've discovered the golden combo of the CC+'s 9 months a year, and the H9's 3 months a year, instead of summers for 4 months and H9's for 8 months. That saves my studs, and thus saves me from having to buy a new set of H9's every winter!
Great video - I love the access you get for these tests.
I wanna go outside and hug my Crossclimates! I bought them, with the idea that i'd change back to my summer tyres in the spring but found them an all round better tyre than the Bridgestone Dueller tyres my car came with, so the Mich CC+ have been on the car for the last 12 months.
Those Dueler tyres are made towards durability sacrifycing some performance, Easily outperformed by crossclimates
I buy crossclimate 2 year ago
my god, what kind of tire
Hold grip, quiet and make record low fuel consumption on my car
I have Opel Astra 1.7CDTI (Isuzu engine)
I got 3.9 L / 100 km on 10 year old Astra when I drive to Adriatic coast on regular road
On the highway, consumption was about 4.1 L at 120 km/h
The dueller is a very poor performance tire. Their RE40/RE50 or Pole S-4 are far better for handling/braking/safety in warm weather.
This is not a scientific test, still. Know it.
Interesting. Main reason I understood the 7°c rule was winter compounds would soften too much and cause excessive wear. Not so much the summer/all season tires. Yes they harden in the cold but after a couple minutes of driving, they will warm up and soften..... dont misunderstand that winter tires should be REQUIRED in certain areas. I live in Canada, but it's not mandatory in this part. Most people do use them and insurance companies offer discounts if you have them. But Quebec actually makes winter tires mandatory.
Craig Quann My insurance company in Ontario does not give a discount for using winter tires. But we did get a call from them asking if we did. Hmmmm.
You're the best man, doing all the testing I've always wanted to do! I love you so much❤️
Keep it up!
Definitely considering an all season as a winter tyre next time around, we barely get any snow here but it does drop to around 0°C on some roads I travel.
This is the single most useful tire test video ever. The wet braking has been so revealing!
Great Video! I think it would be really interesting to see a comparison of snow chains, socks and other solutions for the harshest of climates.
Great video. I live in Western Canada and have been running the Hakkapeliitta in the winter on my BMW for several years and it is a great tire. I always had the impression that one of the reasons to change to the winter tires below 7 DegC was because the tires would wear a lot faster above that, and hence if the temperatures rise for a bit I drive it conservatively, but I didn't realize that the braking would be affected so detrimentally by higher temperatures. Thanks for the excellent study!
Amazing review! Thanks. :) Last year I decided to buy Conti Allseasoncontact based on your review. Still not disappointed. :)
Sooo much good info! This has help me making the decision from being torn between winter and all seasons winter setup... to not bother at all. If I could get cross climates as a run flat I probably would have.
This is the video I've been looking forward to for forever, thanks 👍
All my questions about life has been answered in this video. Simply amazing video.
Awesome as usual. One small thought though: While you are using the whole range of "winter season" tires, you only use one summer tire, which I would consider very standard. However, many cars run on UHP or HP tires by default. While you can't surely test every variation, it would have been interresting to see how a UHP compares to a standard summer in those conditions. Given my own experience with a PSS at 2 degrees, I'm sure the temperature curves would be a lot different - and the risks at cold temps a lot higher.
Thanks for the tests.
When I was choosing winter tires people said that for my country (Ukraine) you need nordic winter tires.
But because of your tests I understood I am probably better of with central european winters tires.
One last thing that I would like you to check - Nordics vs CE Winters dry/snow during -20* C. We usually have about 1 day each winter with such temperatures.
After watching your previous reviews about tyres I listened to your advice. I have a set of 19 inch wheels with summer tyres and a set of 17 inch wheels with Goodyear 4 Seasons gen2. For south-east of England should be okay even if we get some snow.
Thank you very much for the good videos and for the advice.
I have the Goodyear in 19’ , they are so much better than the Yokohama summer tires in the wet cold ; tried them in light snow last winter they felt as safe as my previous Michelin Alpin, but probably will prove less in heavy snow or ice.
Good move. The 4 seasons are very quiet to. In the mountains very certain in the cold fog and damp. Good in snow to.
I had Goodyear 4 years ago on a 3 series and could t believe the difference in snow. Wasnt frightened to go anywhere in the snow with those tyres on. After saying that. I took a chance this year by buying a set of Michelin cross climate (price dictated). If they are half as good as the goodyears I will be very happy
Great reviews as ever Jon. I drive about 20k miles a year in South UK and another 3k a year doing a winter road trip to the alps. I’ve always had dedicated winters and summers but circumstances have changed and storing a spare set of wheels is now a bit of a problem. Seeing this, I think I’ll be OK on CrossClimates for the UK year round and also to cover my winter road trip to the Alps. I understand it’s not ideal but I also don’t think it will be a disaster. Thanks again
No problem, let me know how you get on :)
This was great, really nice to see some in depth independent tests on various types of tyres.
I've been running the Cross Climates (both the original and the Plus versions) for a few years now. Up around northern England/southern Scotland they have been great. As a daily driver tyre they feel no different to a summer tyre in the dry and give me that confidence on wet roads. I've driven in snow a few times with them...
First time was a real success, getting our front wheel drive car up a snow and slush covered 13% incline and these were partially worn tyres as well, down to 3.0mm - 3.5mm. Was quite impressed.
Another time was when the Beast from the East hit us and for whatever reason we had an inch thick slab of heavily compacted snow (more like ice than snow) underneath several inches of snow. Needless to say, the car didn't leave home for a few days as even after the roads had been somewhat cleared by local farmers, the tyres (fairly new ones this time) just had zero grip on the ice. Even the tractors were struggling to find grip it was that bad.
But apart from the oddity that was the Beast from the East, they have done well in snow, powering us along roads where others got themselves stuck. I can highly recommend them as a tyre you can run all year round in most of the UK and I will be sticking with them for the foreseeable future. The wear rate has been good and on paper is better than the Conti all-seasons.
Wow so this test show us that if you are not having a sport car, you don't need summer tires...you just need very good all season tires
OMG this is the test that I've ever wanted to see! So much interesting, thanks!
I have a matching spare set of M sport alloys fitted with Falken HS01s which served their first season last winter, they have been back on the car since the beginning of November and they really work, the summer wheels go back on in March, great videos and you don't need to convince me of the combination of summer tyres in the summer and winter tyres in the winter making the most sense, it really does
You make some of the best videos on UA-cam! Thank you for such an informative video as always.
Thank you!
Thank you for this video. I’m in the southwest of USA and we generally use the all seasons tire (tyre). I was clueless about the summer tire. I will give these differences serious consideration in the future. As a woman, I like knowing if a mechanic is being honest.
Finally! I would love to see every review as scientific as this was. Congratulations and thanks! If I could drop a small idea, I would also love to see test old vs new tire, or old, barely usable winter vs new winter and so on.
Would love to do it but wear testing is expensive. Hopefully next year
@@tyrereviews You could get used tyres from a shop to show the difference in performance. As I understand MZVC asks for that, not wear resistance.
Great video by the way! Makes me feel nice recommending CC to my sister and two weeks after installation the temp dive to sub 8°C with rains and light snow.
I start thinking CC+ for my Vectra C but hot summers(35°C+) is a discouraging factor. Or isn't?
@@nikospsycharis7667 For wear testing you have to have the same age of tyres and have them worn in EXACTLY the same way for it to be fair. As for CC+ in +35c, they'll be fine, but not as good as a summer
I absolutely congratulate that this was a thorough test unlike anything ever done before. With that being said, this testing is still incomplete until you get to complete at colder temperatures like -20C, 0 degrees is not cold enough.
Very very good test, as always :) Coincides with my feelings i had in the last winters here in flatland east germany - as long as its dry (quite more often than in the UK), the winter tires always felt less sure footed than the summer tires. especially on a sunny november/march day were asphalt temperatures rise above 8-10°. and especially if people cheap out on the winter tires and get some middle of the range ones in the smallest size possible for the car.
the option to go summer biased all-season for the winter is quite interesting. best performance for 95% of the time, and the few days there is actually snow on the road you simply drive a bit more carefully.
This is what I have plan to do as I do not like the squirmy winter tires. Would you say that All Season tires feel more precise and sporty than winter tires during the winter months?
This is the test we have all been waiting for! Just started watching. Can’t wait! Well done for finally tackling this. The truth will out!
Got a set of cross climates on your recommendation. Can’t rate them highly enough.
anthony stafford Me too 👍🏼👍🏼
Me three
+1
Would have but no available in the size I needed. Fingers crossed for next time!
Me 4
Another fantastic, interesting video. We're in SE England and fitted Continental All Season Contacts to our Golf based on your recommendation - we wanted an all season with a more winter bias that we could leave on longer throughout the year without thinking about it. Been very impressed with them, although I wouldn't expect miracles in snow/ice. Cheers all.
They're really good in snow!
Great test, really helpful in decision taking; However as the climate changed quite much within the last years and we have like cold winters with -10 to -20 C and +30-38 in the summer, I would be curious how an "All seasons" tire would behave at that high temperatures. Just to understand if it is an option even in really high temperatures.
I am in the same position, to have two sets or just CrossClimate2. My only concern is how do they respond in hot summer scenario. Would be a great test.
@@AdrianNKA I was faced with the same decision. Either CrossClimate 2 or Alpin 6. Since in the future the winter is getting colder and the summer is getting hotter, I opted for the winter tires Alpin 6. The extra charge is worth to me.
@@AdrianNKA and @SWiSSlLiX The Crossclimate2s thend to perform within a few percentages of the Primacy in warm weather. I've put about 20k miles of spring, summer, and fall driving on mine and can honestly say they're the best "all season" out there. I also have Blizzak DM-V2s for winter, but have been feeling less and less like they're a necessity.
@@ouisi7 I have bought the CrossClimate², they are amazing at 0-15°C. That's all I can say for now, I have only 3000km with them, in this winter. Never drove on snow, though. Looking for the summer :)
I own the Kleber Quadraxer 2 (all season tires, Micheline sub-brand). They withstand pretty well to two 40+ degree summers in mid Italy, with reasonable performance and no visible wear or damage. The crossclimate are even better than the Kleber, especially in summer condition.
Love my Crossclimates!
Thx, very informative! Please do this again in warmer conditions (it would be a fortune now in heating cost's to get the facility to summer temperature's, but maybe in the summer) with the same tyres. Would be very informative how the winter and all season tyres perform in the hot (many people in my country stay on winter tyres all year).
Yes, absolutely, and if possible something about wear and how they perform in winter after a season of hot weather. I have the impression that people think they save money by using only one set of tires, but suspect the wear of softer rubbers at least evens the cost.
Great video, thank you. Living in French Brittany with wet and not so cold winter, the tyre of choice is of course Michelin Crossclimate. Great under the rain, good in the summer, that's the real 4 seasons tyre every driver would expect.
I run just like you recommended, Summer tyres above 7C, below I run the Crossclimates. Most of the colder months it is just cold and wet, perfect for the all season tyre.
The CrossClimate+ is the best tyre for most UK drivers - forget about swapping tyres in summer and winter - it can easily be 15C in the UK during the day and -2C at night - are people going to swap their tyre day and night?
This is the best day & night tyre.
The important factor in this testing it the road and tire temperature, which are always going to be higher than the ambient air temperature. That's why the rule is average temperature.
Here in Canada, it takes several days of well below freezing average temperature for the roads to freeze.
What you really need to watch out for here is getting winters on before the first snow of the year, otherwise you are screwed going to work on snowy slush, and screwed coming back on slushy water. And if it doesn't all melt and dry before the road freeze you are screwed doing anything on icy roads.
@@wyattroncin941 I'm from Minnesota, so I was wondering what your thoughts were regarding all season VS winter, etc? Pretty sure what I have are all season tires but idk.
@@101jir For Minnesota, your are almost certainly fine with just all seasons, that's what most people run, even in Manitoba.
It's definitely a plus to have a set of summer/3-season and winters, but don't worry about it until your current tires are getting worn out or you feel like they just aren't doing the job in winter.
@@wyattroncin941 Thx
@@wyattroncin941 thx
Fantastic test, excellent video and thank you for summarising what most motorists in the UK should be considering too.
Keep up the good work.
I can imagine it was a bit terrifying trying to push snow lap times in basically a walled tunnel with no run off?
Just gone crossclimate+ for my winter replacement set so happy with your conclusions.
The car would have bounced 😅
@@tyrereviews Pinball anyone?
Hello all. I have had the Dunlop Sport all sesson tyres for abour 2 years. I live in the south of spain and I travel sometimes to the north of Spain and France in winter so I decided to put all season tyres. I can explain you all my experience and the tyres have today, (May 2024), 37.500km of used. Here in summer its really hoy, like more than 40°C and I drive a lot in summer. I usually drive at 120-140km/h and no problems at all. I can brake like with summer tyres. Last winter I test the tyres with lot of water and ice in -5 °C and I can feel more secure than with the last summer tyres I had (Summer Dunlop Sport Blue response). Now I still can use the tyres like sunmer ones, but I need to replace it if I want to go through snow, so I will change the tyres in July or August of this year. Hope this information help some of you and If you like it please upvote it 👍🏻 so many people can read it. Regards!!
Edit: I check for tyres pressure once a month to ensure all the pressure are ok. I have a Kia ProCeed with 136hp and the pressure its 38psi in front wheels and 36psi in the back.
You should do dry braking on -2, -5, -10 and -15 degrees
But still the BEST ever winter tires test!
-2 to -15 snow maybe so no summers
@@murraydupley9330 No, the coldest days in winter is when there are no clouds and no wind.
@@elzrinja365 so what you have to take them off when it snows
cold, snow ice and dry here
@@murraydupley9330 I dont understand what you want to say
Thank you for the test. Well done. I use the Nokian WR DR4 during the winter (it's amazing on snow and wet roads). I always change my tires when temperatures drop to about 5-10 deg. C and I expect to drive on wet roads.
Been using winter / summer tyre combo swapping out at the end of Nov and end of Feb. From this data though might look at putting on some CrossClimate tyres when the winter tyres need replacing :)
I've been running a set of Falken EuroAllSeason M+S 3P on my Kia Soul for over a year now, replacing the OEM Nexen Blue summer tyres. Observations are that the handling of the car has improved significantly, giving much more confidence. MPG increased during the summer months in comparison. In the rain, the tyre especially at speed has been excellent too. I live in the countryside so muddy roads are common, and the tyre retains confidence on all surfaces. Driving off road on mushy grass has posed no problem. Rarely see snow so can't cannot yet.....
I think all season tires should be a no cost option on a new car.
This video addresses a very messy problem in a well thought out way that succeeds in giving a good enough practical answer.
It's about time UK law was changed to have CrossClimate+ type of tires fitted as standard on most new cars. The UK is not suited to having Summer tires for Joe average who knows nothing about cars. Such a switch would probably reduce accidents as the results across a variety of driving situations would be more predicable for most people
the best summer tires are still unbeatable
@@eljakimdeclerck1941 obviously not in the winter there not !
@@andyw0340 There? Where?
I’ve noticed a lot of police cars use all season, so do many utility company vehicles like Scottish power
@@Cornwall1888 makes sense
Very good information here. Confirms what my 40 plus years of driving had led me to believe. Because we get lots of snowy days, I do run a dedicated winter tire. Unfortunately the only winter tire available here in Southern Ontario that is the 195/75R14 size my old Volvo needs is the Uniroyal Tiger Paw Ice and Snow. It is nowhere near as good in any conditions and the Nokian Haakapilliitta we used to run in winter, but still better than the best of our M+S, which is our "all season", and the winter rated all weather.
I would love a test of the Crossclimate+ in hot summer temperatures. I have CC+ fitted to my car, and they feel a bit squishy when the tarmac is very hot (30+c). So while it feels great for the typical weather here in Denmark (which is very similar to UK), the summer drive to southern europe feels a bit compromised as the temperatures are much higher.
I would love to see that test, too :) In Romania we have 35°C or more in summer and -15°C or less in winter. Would CrossClimate² be good for this scenario?
Cannot even begin to tell you how amazing this testing is
And as an owner of 4 Michelin cc+ tyres im very impressed with your results 👍🏼
The cc has done very well in this test!
100% professional test as always. This test is very valuable not only in Britain. I live in north Poland next to the sea, where we don't have such snowy winters for many years now. Most of the time temperature it is around 0, and we have more rainy days than snowy. Even in the summer there are only few weeks with temperature over 20-25 celcius, and lots of rainy days. It looks like for this climate best option is to have all season or even summer bias all season tyre than having 2 sets of tire.
nowin87 running uniroyal allseasonexperst in 3city area for the third year.Very good all around performance and stellar feedback as well
Great vid Jon! Even my wife watched it and gained useful insight, which neither of us expected! She was getting up to go to bed then sat on edge of settee glued 😆
Great to validate my stance which is also the same as you, all season are a more balanced 'winter' tyre for our climate. Hence, a set of Quatrac 5 just gone on. Also let me say just try that test with primacy 3 instead of premium 6's... they harden up so much they become a budget tyre below 4°c and get uncomfortably slippery in the wet, never mind frost/ice where they pretty much dont even try to purchase to begin with... I dread to think of all the clueless drivers out there who also have no feel for their vehicle who are on same/similar tyres, its astounding we dont get so many more accidents.
I got Crossclimate+ on my Golf IV and I really can not describe how good they are. I used them for 70 000 km and they still have had 3.5 mm on them. Should also say that I live in Croatia so we have minus 10 with the snow and ice in the winter and plus 40 in the summer. They were so good that I got another set last month. Worth every penny. Great review, keep up the good work.
@John Hooper As I said in previous comment, last month I got another NEW set. Also, in Croatia you must have 4 mm only if you are driving summer tyres with chains. We are allowed 3 mm on winter tires by law.
@John Hooper Anytime :)
This is prolly a necro, but I'm interested how do they behave in summer heat? Do they scorch on the heat a become a bit too hard for the winter driving or they are fine goding from -10 to +35 C"