I always love those little touches of awkwardness in Vincent's performance as Fisk; something about his body language, like when he's thinking of what to say for his monologue at the beginning and right down to his fighting style, makes him almost seem like a little kid trying to present himself as an adult. It's a constant reminder of the character's own childhood trauma and Vincent's performance is elevated even further as a result.
I read people saying his acting is bad here but u just said what I wanted to say. A lot of times Fisk character is pretending, throughout all the series there are scenes were he is not completely him and he is just saying the words he needs to say. Because when he is him itself, he is just a very traumatized child who grew up getting so much power and influence.
He moves like Karloff in Frankenstein. It's a great choice. Child like. Uncomfortable. Enormous. Honestly the character is John Houston's voice in Karloff's monster.
@@devilslayerthesaintofkille1317 I thought people with something to lose would be more dangerous? Isn’t someone with nothing left to lose supposed to be less dangerous because they haven’t yet found something to live for?
@@TonyJaaFan1587 people with so.ething to lóe don't want to lose what they have. Dying is to lose everything including your life. But a person with literally nothing to lose doesn't care about anything, not even their own safety. People with something to lose fight cautiously, while people with nothing to lose fight viciously, but can also be calculated.
@@sirtophamhatt4821he hates DareDevil, and also thinks his vision of "justice" is naive He respects Castle for his sheer efficacy. You can't argue with results. But Castle is a loose canon, better judge it some other direction.
I like how Frank literally threatens Fisk's reputation by just being there and staring Fisk down without an ounce of fear. Fisk was basically trying to make himself look bigger but Frank never even shows an ounce of fear and hesitation when it comes to dealing with Fisk.
I don't think anyone will ever be able to play Punisher or Kingpin as captivatingly as Bernthal and D'Onofrio did, respectively. These two men are absolute marvels.
There are hundreds of classically trained actors that could do as good of a job as these two. Really shallow and ignorant way of thinking, that's not how art works at all.
@@paul_warner Because thats what a good action film has to deliever.... this here is too bad, Bernthal is a great actor, but not a great movie-fighter, or maybe its the directors fault...
I love how Fisk isn't the slightest bit disturbed at the impromptu hand-to-hand with a man he just saw kill 15 men unarmed. He knows he had a beating coming for that failed assassination attempt and he takes the hits while returning his own to assert dominance. If anything, he *relishes* the challenge. All expressed through nothing but fight choreography.
I like how Fisk goes gorilla mode for the last two hits. He's like "Okay, I let you make your point, but I'd better use my size to end this before the guards get nervous and do something stupid"
@@ProfessorxVile Perfect way to convey that Frank only really loses here because Fisk is WAY out of Frank's weight class, and both he and Fisk know it.
@@Fruitlahoop I mean, that's what most streaming services do. Disney, Amazon Prime, all these platforms merely host these shows and give the studios money to develop them. Netflix is no different.
Could not agree more. It plays like he's searching his vocabulary for a more elevated, cerebral word ...but can't find one and has to settle for "violence." Such an unconventional, effective choice. Vince D'O is one of those actors you always have to watch, no matter the role.
@@AbhinavKumar-xb5wr hand to hand? Never. Fisk is to strong to be taken out by Frank with bare hands. If there are any kind of weapons or items included, then yes Frank can probably kill him quite dirty.
The fact that D'onofrio plays Fisk, one of the most terrifying mobsters in fiction, and also plays the grizzled frontiersman in Magnificent Seven is a testament to his range.
The only thing I'd ever want from The Punisher in the MCU is for him to bitch slap that Mary Sue Captain Marvel around. She's no hero, she is a danger to the MCU as a whole.. just by being there.
When I first started watching Daredevil and they were introducing Kingpin, I was initially taken aback by this actor for him. I thought him a poor choice. However, as good actors always do, he won me over. Bravo! I give him a standing ovation. I especially love Kingpin's manipulation at the very end, which is literally the truth: "To kill your way to justice, not for me, not for yourself of course not. For your family, for them."
D'Onofrio carried the Kingpin over PERFECTLY. Made for this role. Kingpin was pretty much a giant, rather round, not looking like he was terribly strong and extremely physically fast, dangerous and tough. But he was ALL that with a genius intellect and an inhuman resilience. You feel ALL of that here. Bernthal was a born Punisher. Going to miss all this. Disney now has it. Its done.
@@braydenbannon5797 I wasnt aware of that :O Its to their credit they let these characters be true to form. I thought this was Netflix owned by this point.
@@shkotayd9749 -- you are correct. This was all Netflix property until a few years ago when the rights reverted back to Disney. And, they now have the Netflix properties (Daredevil, Punisher, etc) on Disney. Unfortunately, with this new version of Daredevil they are filming they probably will Disney-fy it, so it will suck.
@@shoazdon7000 Yah but he looks fat and otherwise bulky. One would think of a strong guy who is probably otherwise utterly out of shape. And that absolutely was not the case with Kingpin.
Kingpin's apparent relation with Ronin and the events in the post blip criminal world just match with this scene so perfectly. He pretty much applied this same plan but with Hawkeye as his pawn for total control and power. Can't wait to see this character again Came back here after finally catching up to the finale holy did they dumb down and absolutely butcher the character. A LOT.
Frank _knows_ Fisk is using him and manipulating him, but he also knows he literally can't refuse If he takes the offer, he avenges his family and continues to murder criminals, laying the groundwork for Fisk's return in the process If he refuses, he dies
Don't worry, Fisk doesn't end up making it happen. When Thanos snapped his fingers, there ends up being lots of chaos in the prisons and Fisk (who survived the snap) manages to escape from prison. However Hawkeye having just become Ronin tracks down Fisk and finishes him off along with everyone else associated with him. That's my theory anyway.
Careful what you wish for. Disney will never make anything close to Netflix' Daredevil or Punisher. I don't much care to watch the PG13 woke version of either.
@@jeronimo196 Why not? Can you help me to understand why The Punisher got cancelled in the first place? It’s a great show and it needs another season to top it off like with Daredevil, it had 3 seasons
@@justchillin6314 Netflix had to return the rights to Disney. And even if Disney decides to continue Daredevil in some form, it will be PG13 wokefest. They brought Kingpin in "Hawkeye" only to turn him into a joke. I don't see them even attempting "Punisher".
No one ever talks about Vincent D'Onofrio's performance as King Pin. Freaking brilliant! He displayed the gravitas, the intelligence, and the brutal violence of the man.
But not close to his physique.. King Pin suppose to look like Eddie hall in his heavier state.. this dude just fat and no muscles.. can clearly see that in his bench press scene lol
@@MrRomegard There are only handfuls of people in the world big as Eddie Hall, you'd never find one that could act well. Better to get the good actor than the right body yet unable to act.
@@fieldy409 i know, but putting in effort in The gym would be easy for this dude as he is big already, not saying he needs to be eddie/halfthor size etc but atleast you know... try to do a Little bit of effort 😅
I love how Frank just goes for it. He hits first despite being handcuffed to a fucking bed lol, not to mention Fisk is absolutely massive and described (in the comics at least) to be a man of pure muscle. And given how easily he beats people to death in this show I’m assuming that’s true in the show as well.
Hawkeye confirms this, I think. The dude gets shot with an arrow straight in the chest and casually breaks it off, he throws around a 100 lbs girl dozens of feet, tanks a car with little injury, etc.
@@andyroobrick-a-brack9355 yeah I kinda assumed they were going full on comic accurate kingpin when it came to Hawkeye. The mcu has really been going for comic accuracy this last phase of the mcu and it’s been really fun to watch aesthetically. Everyone’s new costumes are awesome.
@@spider-jonah-man7148 Meh, Kingpin is one of the strongest humans, but Parker could take him apart if he wanted to, he just holds back against non-superpowered people
I love all the people who have clearly not watched the show and don't understand the character commenting on Fisk's "bad" acting here. D'Onofrio's performance as Wilson Fisk on this show is absolutely brilliant.
You may be right in that it would help to understand the character, but he still is having trouble remembering lines. His timing and punctuation are a bit off. That has nothing to do with watching the whole show.
Yehat Terminator He's not having trouble remembering lines. Vincent D'Onofrio is a top-notch actor. His delivery here is very much intentional. And it's not a "TV" show, technically. It's a Netflix show. Much higher production values than your average network TV fare.
I love D'Onofrio as an actor and think he's amazing.. but.. I have to admit I'm having trouble understanding what about the show or Fisk's character would rationalize what comes across as a pretty cheesy scene with cheesy acting? Idk
Man, I loved how serious everyone took their roles, absolutely loved King Pin and Punisher's actors. Where NONE of them were "quippy" heroes and villains. They were ACTUAL performance, where I love the idea if Vincent woke up as Fisk and Bernthal woke up as Castle, told that's just who they are and what they have to be in order to make it a certain time in the real world. Where it feels like both almost performed as both as if their lives depended on it. Amazing.
I love it when Frank punches Fisk and Fisk stumbles around like an enemy in a game that's too high level for you to fight and you're only taking 1 HP from him after hitting him with multiple attacks
@@noelsamuel3884 you made a terrible mistake young child watch the first 2 seasons of daredevil or just s2 if you want to see the punisher and daredevil fight.
What I like about Deadpool and punisher is that Deadpool is just a good, just cracking jokes, and punisher talks like a marine, realistic. I really don’t like comic book dialogue. Don’t call Deadpool comic dialogue, he’s better than that
Or television. All cop shows are like this. "Why did you rape and murder that 10-year old girl?". "Because she was asking for it, man!". Right. Just like real life. No one ever lies.
One of the things I like about the character that is Kingpin. He is as self-assured as he is self-indulgent. He monologues because he knows he can, and he enjoys it. For him, it's also a power move. To show he doesn't care if you know or not- it's a means of him asserting himself. Only people in complete control can afford to monologue like that- anyone else has liabilities to exploit from it. And he does like his theatrics, when it suits him.
Besides the fact that Vincent absolutely brings the character of the King Pin to life in a big way, His authoritative voice is EPIC. It's like thunder.
The way Castle/Bernthal sways back and forth as Kingpin/D'Onofrio speaks is haunting. He's barely there, in his head he's already where fists are flying. Also, the way the crooked guards multiplied from 0:14 to 3:12 is a nice touch. Like, yeah, the guy is chained up and getting beaten by a giant, but he's also still the goddamn Punisher. Can't be too careful!
@@Gnarfledarf He doesn't know what it means, just like everyone else that uses the term. It has no meaning in the subjective world of art and music where I see it used on every You Tube page. You can find some loser saying it in regards to every band, artist, etc. It just goes to show you how retarded most people are.
Not dominance, no. He does it to show that, in that moment, he is at least Franks equal and to save face in front of the guards. Frank had Fisk reeling from hits even while chained and right after killing a cell block of inmates. Fisk isn't asserting dominance, he's just matching physical force in the only instance that he'd ever be able to against the Punisher.
Chained up and exhausted from just destroying all those other guys. Kind of like someone waiting until someone has done a marathon then challenging them to a race. Lol
@@ClarenceJBoddicker1987yeah but a shitty movie can bring down a great personality. Same can be said with keanu reeves but when he’s in a bad movie it fucking shows
@@clawzx1195 a great personality is just as memorable as a shitty movie. A great individual performance is still a great individual performance despite how bad a team is.
They just need to get those directors and writers back for Born Again, but there's no way that's going to happen, too much forced politics where you don't have to use them, too much jokes and light hearted stories, instead of giving us something gritty and dark, without pulling punches and playing safe, they will not do it because they like playing safe
@@ADDONRACER Bullshit. Of course he does but his psychic pain overweights any physic pain by far. But of course he feels it. Frank Castle isnt superman. Im the only one here who actually read the punisher comics, could that be?
It's called compartmentalizing pain... I as a pro motocross rider can do it. I hate stubbing my toe while walking to tbe fridge but if I break an arm during a moto I can and have rode through it, among other injuries throughout my career. Pushing pain to the side combined with the best pain killer of all,, adrenalin, it overrides pain. For awhile at least. There's no such thing as pain tolerance, we all feel it the same, but we as individuals have a better mindset than others and some are more capable than others to push it to the back of our minds and focus on the task at hand.
Fisk tried to recruit Agent PointDexter (aka Bullseye) the same way he tried to recruit Castle. Only difference is that Bullseye fell for Fisk's manipulation while Castle didn't
Joash Mathew he never tried to recruit Castle though. Fisk, being the observant man that he is, could tell that Castle would never directly assist him. Instead Fisk merely set him loose, so that Castle’s rampage over his enemies would create a power vacuum for Fisk to fill after he eventually gets out of prison. On the other hand, Poindexter was a mentally ill murderer who legitimately enjoyed killing people, not just because he believed in harsh justice. Also, the North Star dependence that Poindexter had made him much easier to manipulate, which Fisk did.
Frank Castle is like a mix of Matt Murdock and PointDexter Stubborn as hell (Matt) Hurt by people lost someone he really cared about (Dex) Frank doesn’t need anyone to give him some love he’s been there and done that and people took it away from him so those people paid a price (life) (face) But dex on the other hand he was mentaly ill no one ever loved him he killed and didn’t feel any emotions whatsoever he doesn’t know the diffrence between good and evil He just likes trowing shit at moving objects and doesn’t care at all
mike C Doesn't change the fact that it's a moot point, as MCU Kingpin is currently more of a strength-based brawler rather than an actually skilled combatant, while MCU Punisher is a skilled marine with years of experience, whose blows, as seen here, were able to make even the much larger Fisk stagger, despite Punisher being weakened at the time.
The punisher was also chained up. He was stabbed several times and had just been beaten by fully armed riot guards. Kingpin wasn't chained up and he hadn't just brutally killed five men and he didn't just fight riot police. I doubt that Kingpin wouldn't have been quite easily beaten by this version of the Punisher because he may hit hard but, he is slow compared to DD or the Punisher. That is how he got beaten in the first place by DD.
My God, Vincent deserves so much. He is such an amazing actor who can cover so many different roles. Not only can he cover so many roles, but the amount of dedication and effort he puts into each role is just...amazing, truly to the T. This man, this man is such a versatile actor. John Berenthol is another such actor. He can fit into many roles, and he is genuinely a good guy.
I love how despite the fact that Fisk knows that on the streets Castle would happily kill him he still treats Castle with respect and even a slight bit of admiration. True humility
We can only hope for Disney to continue Punisher content in the future (hopefully with Bernthal) where we see more scenes of Frank doing what he does. I think it would be great if they did a movie or tv show version if when Frank Castle took the War Machine suit.
Who cares what he went through no mercy if you still wanna raise your hands at the king shackled and all and he took the shackles off and was ready for more smoke frank was a dead man if he didn’t comply right here
I love how Fisk's hands are behind his back the entire time. He doesn't feel...any concern to shield himself from Punisher. For how bad of a dude Frank Castle is and all of the infamous things Fisk has heard about him, the dude is unafraid of him! Edit: Full disclosure, haven't seen the show, just calling out the body language I'm observing.
Dude what? He has 20 armed guards on his side behind him, he is shook af. Beating on someone in chains is pure insecurity. Kingpin is threatened as fuck very clearly the entire scene.
Are you serious? lmao the punisher just fought 10 people and was gassed and thrown into the cell with fisk while being handcuffed so why in any way would fisk be scared ? He has every advantage a person can have and tbh he needs it because in a straight up fight based on this showing the punisher would possibly beat fisk in a straight up fight where Frank isn't tied up,tired,hurt from fighting,etc.
Punisher... slaughtered an entire group of armed prisoners, gets handcuffed and then proceeds to fight the biggest guy in the place and even though he's restrained still manages to get in more then a few good shots and then laughs after taking punches to the face.... punisher.... thank god you aren't real
Kingamatic23 He could? No man, Frank he *WOULD* , his the Punisher goddammit and he has done that in the past. That's why only superhumans can stop him, otherwise his the last thing our governments wants in real life.
Kingpin clearly let the other punches happen. he stood there taking the hits before slamming his ass onto the table. Frank didn't even draw a drip of blood. Frank Managed nothing but that first Headbutt
@@michaelmiller7909 A lot of these people are victims themselves with warped perceptions of what is right and wrong. A mindset like that makes you no better than any murderer or any rapist. You do not know them, do not understand them, and have no idea how many people on the sex offender list arent anywhere near the kind of person youre even referring to.
@@Ravathiel He got stunned from them. Punisher may have not drawn blood from the later punches but Fisk definitely felt it. Also Punisher's hands were cuffed on top of just fighting for his life against fifteen prison mates so it's not like he can deliver his standard punches. Fisk has weight and most likely power on his side but put these two in a fair one on one fight Punisher wins every single time.
Frank Grillo would have made a better Frank Castle Punisher. He just looks the part. He's in The purge anarchy and Captain America winter soldier. He played Cross bones. What's his face from the walking dead just doesn't do it for me. Oh yeah, Shane that was his name. Lol
unfortunately that's exactly what they're going to do why because Disney is fucking stupid and likes to ruin everything for everyone they completely fuck Star Wars up
I don't understand all the politics of characters, but I always thought kingpin was a marvel villian... this works well with him being in DC punisher though.
Fisks fighting style is supposed to be unorthodox, random, and crude. He depends on his size and strength, even in the comics. His style has a lot of sumo moves in the comics, plus several other martial arts. In this case it is not style but primal moves and strength.
In the comics he’s a skilled martial artist relying purely on his strength but still got the technique right I don’t see this kingpin using either of those The guy acting him may havr trouble with technique so he could just use brute strength In a full strength fist you would take your arm all the way to the back and then curve it for extra momentum He used a half punch which was still very slow
I honestly think Punisher was way more compelling on Daredevil than he was on his own show. I mean Bernthal was great on both shows but I still feel his best work in the role was in Daredevil. The scenes on the roof and in the cemetary between him and Daredevil were some of the best scenes on any of these shows.
You know that they did a good job casting when The Punisher (Jon Bernthall) can look large, tall and intimidating, but Kingpin (Vincent D'Onofrio) still stands over him.
+SDS Overfiend yeah I didn't really like bernthal as the punisher I mean he was great in twd but I just don't see the punisher when I look at him all these people tripping lol
thedarkknight646 Exactly... Punisher is physically menacing.. Bernthal isn't.. They are trying to flesh out a story that isn't there.. He doesn't spend time weeping and drinking
+SDS Overfiend Way too much shit happening in season 2 for Punisher to be as fleshed out as you want him to be.They're gonna do that drinking and weeping shit on his own Netflix show.
I love how this take make daredevil something different. Not the 15th acrobatic vigilante with witty banter, but a gritty person who takes his disability and uses it to strengthen his remaining senses. This is a good Daredevil, just a blind guy in a kick ass suit
Daredevil isn't even entirely without quips in this. But he's not throwing them out mid fight. Maybe pre fight. Idk one of my favorite comic panels is DD coming home from whatever and he senses there are guys with nightvision giggles waiting for him. So he goes "oh no, whatever will I do", and then calmly flicks the lights on so they're all blinded
I actually like how actors add some uniqueness to there roles. This kingpin has this strange awkwardness, but it really matches his calculated, smart mind and his sadistic enjoyment when he gets his hands dirty.
Why would you watch Punisher before Daredevil? Makes no sense. You need to watch them in order. You should also watch the other Marvel Netflix Shows cuz they're really good. They're all in the same universe.
I met him in real life working at windham mountain ski resort in windham, NY. Hes good friends with the owners. Hes quiet but he's nice. A lottle weird though like he is changing "characters" as he talks. I guess its an actor thing with identity.
Vincent humanizes Fisk in a way that takes its own special talent to realize. Fisk is genuinely pleased to have a wee slugfest because it actually makes him feel a little less alone.
@@simongiffin4701 Nah, Frank still loses. Logically, no human being should be able to take a punch from Fisk. He casually overpowers car lifting superheros half the time like it's nothing.
I love how season 1 Kingpin was very withdrawn, and kinda unsure/under confident. Now, he has embraced the animal rage inside him. Gonna be a bad ass rematch between him and DD
If you consider that Vincent D Onofrio, who played Private Paula in Full Metal Jacket, was bullied by his instructor and then shot at the end of his training, his roles have changed a lot,Wenn man bedenkt, dass Vincent D. Onofrio, der Private Paula in „Full Metal Jacket“ spielte,der von seinem Ausbilder gemobbt und am Ende seiner Ausbildung erschossen wurde, haben sich seine Rollen stark verändert.
That first backhand followed with the hook is honestly my favourite hit I’ve ever seen on tv. Big dude using momentum and size to his advantage. I really hope Vincent returns to the MCU
@@elessartelcontar9415 Fisk's movements before he swung were pretty hard to read he leaned back as if he was gonna lead with his right making his backhand pretty unexpected. Things happen much faster than you'd expect I think it's totally believable he could land a hit with this method even against a trained fighter. Also Castle was pretty exhausted from having just fought for his life against like twelve dudes or something.
King Pins way of talking makes him seem more real than any media that has ever portrayed him. He is coarse, loud but also polite and measuring every word in his mind. You can hear the odd combination of sophistication and menacing street talk which makes him in and of itself a character filled with contradiction. There is such depth in this portrayel.
•Spider-Man takes one slam from Fisk and dies. •Punished takes two slams from Fisk and proceeds to slowly sit up and rub hands cause cuffs are too tight.
Thanos is a ghost, was an ideal. The kingpin is flesh and blood, literally ruining the here and now. If Clint and Bishop don't do things correctly, it's heavily implied the kingpin will kill their families and not respectfully either. Clint already lost his family in endgame so it's not the same type of dread. It worse.
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I always love those little touches of awkwardness in Vincent's performance as Fisk; something about his body language, like when he's thinking of what to say for his monologue at the beginning and right down to his fighting style, makes him almost seem like a little kid trying to present himself as an adult. It's a constant reminder of the character's own childhood trauma and Vincent's performance is elevated even further as a result.
Never noticed that. Thank you for giving me another excuse to rewatch this masterpiece
@@HRGAMES-rw7yd You're welcome!
Yep, it’s a brilliantly nuanced performance
I read people saying his acting is bad here but u just said what I wanted to say. A lot of times Fisk character is pretending, throughout all the series there are scenes were he is not completely him and he is just saying the words he needs to say. Because when he is him itself, he is just a very traumatized child who grew up getting so much power and influence.
He moves like Karloff in Frankenstein. It's a great choice. Child like. Uncomfortable. Enormous. Honestly the character is John Houston's voice in Karloff's monster.
the fact that frank went toe to toe with fisk even while cornered and with his hands cuffed is all kinds of badass!
He was a man with nothing to lose, justice no wait, punishment was more important then life itself at the moment.
@@devilslayerthesaintofkille1317 also because of plot convenience
They were trading blows not even real fighting
@@devilslayerthesaintofkille1317 I thought people with something to lose would be more dangerous? Isn’t someone with nothing left to lose supposed to be less dangerous because they haven’t yet found something to live for?
@@TonyJaaFan1587 people with so.ething to lóe don't want to lose what they have. Dying is to lose everything including your life. But a person with literally nothing to lose doesn't care about anything, not even their own safety. People with something to lose fight cautiously, while people with nothing to lose fight viciously, but can also be calculated.
The actor who played kingpin is just too perfect for the role
He name Vincent D'Onofrio.
Great actor in many shows and movies
@@brycejarvis1577 it's more menacing
wasn’t vincent d’onofrio in full metal jacket too? i think he was private pyle
I freaking loved him in THE CELL movie.
the way D'Onofrio delivers the line. "How could one man be capable of such... ...violence." is so good.!!
I see it when he said that
IMHO
MCU Netflix shows like Daredevil or Punisher are better than any DC media
He doesn't want to say such a massacre, he tries to be diplomatic.
@@lickenhuntsman5338 thats just not true.
he says it with a sense of satisfaction.
Fisk has an immense amount of respect for Castle. He doesnt fear him, but he respects Frank for his balls and heart.
That would be because Fisk has too much ego to allow for it. It's not a detraction from his actual abilities, it's just a part of his mental make-up.
Because they're both in a world of shit...
Fisk respects him far more then daredevil I can tell in the comics I’ve read
@@sirtophamhatt4821he hates DareDevil, and also thinks his vision of "justice" is naive
He respects Castle for his sheer efficacy. You can't argue with results. But Castle is a loose canon, better judge it some other direction.
If they were both free and If frank was going after him, you bet your ass fisk would be afraid...
I like how Frank literally threatens Fisk's reputation by just being there and staring Fisk down without an ounce of fear. Fisk was basically trying to make himself look bigger but Frank never even shows an ounce of fear and hesitation when it comes to dealing with Fisk.
And then Fisk shits all over him.
@@mrlowkey4187 That's only because he was handcuffed
@@peterteba3891 that’s not Fisk’s problem.
@@mrlowkey4187 Frank>fisk
@@manoantomopdaniellaccoo2557 should’ve won then.
I don't think anyone will ever be able to play Punisher or Kingpin as captivatingly as Bernthal and D'Onofrio did, respectively. These two men are absolute marvels.
Marvels , I see what you did there lol
There are hundreds of classically trained actors that could do as good of a job as these two. Really shallow and ignorant way of thinking, that's not how art works at all.
cant keep watching this, Bernthals fighting scenes arent halfway realistic, i either laugh or stop watching, tried a few times now ...
@@FMeyer-zg5mg Shows and movies are supposed to be entertaining, why would you want realistic combat in anything other than a war movie?
@@paul_warner Because thats what a good action film has to deliever.... this here is too bad, Bernthal is a great actor, but not a great movie-fighter, or maybe its the directors fault...
I love how Fisk isn't the slightest bit disturbed at the impromptu hand-to-hand with a man he just saw kill 15 men unarmed. He knows he had a beating coming for that failed assassination attempt and he takes the hits while returning his own to assert dominance. If anything, he *relishes* the challenge. All expressed through nothing but fight choreography.
Not even just 15 men but fifteen likely Trinitarios or Latin Keengs.
Lol Fisk is kinda an opposing figure himself
I like how Fisk goes gorilla mode for the last two hits. He's like "Okay, I let you make your point, but I'd better use my size to end this before the guards get nervous and do something stupid"
@@ProfessorxVile Perfect way to convey that Frank only really loses here because Fisk is WAY out of Frank's weight class, and both he and Fisk know it.
And also Castle was in Chains@@NotAGoodUsername360
Daredevil fighting style -- Martial arts and ninjutsu
Punisher fighting style -- Marine training
Kingpin fighting style -- *angry baby*
Pretty sure marine training isn't a fighting style tho, in military you also learn martial arts a mix of many mostly offensive style martial arts.
*M A R S* Yes but it all comes under marine training obviously
@@salhyd8969 yes it's all training, my point is, *marine training isn't a fighting style...*
*M A R S* Ok forgive me boi
@@salhyd8969 you are forgiven child
I have no clue how Netflix managed to allow such a well written show on its platform.
I mean, Netflix has a ton of bangers. Especially their anime section haha
@@ErectileSceptile i know right? someone sees one movie with bad CGI and just claims the entire platform is garbage.
@@SkankyNugget most of it is garbage not even wrong
@@ErectileSceptile sadly they don’t write half of that stuff. They only distribute on their platform.
@@Fruitlahoop I mean, that's what most streaming services do. Disney, Amazon Prime, all these platforms merely host these shows and give the studios money to develop them. Netflix is no different.
Castle just fought a dozen or so inmates, took hits, was chained up, and still gave a fight to Fisk. Badass.
ChiBears DieHard89 USMC baby.
A warrior ...
He is a US Marine cmon. He has endurance
@@khotunkhan3950 well... castle isnt only a marine. That man's a machine. He can take as much as he gives, and still keep going.
@Lord Admiral Spire He doesn't have PTSD.
"how could one man be capable of such... violence"
Punisher in a nutshell
IMHO
MCU Netflix shows like Daredevil or Punisher are better than any DC media
Indeed...
The way D’Onofrio delivers the word “violence” is one of the best line readings I’ve seen.
Agreed.
The almost kindred admiration for the ability to be a sadistic machine.
Could not agree more. It plays like he's searching his vocabulary for a more elevated, cerebral word ...but can't find one and has to settle for "violence." Such an unconventional, effective choice. Vince D'O is one of those actors you always have to watch, no matter the role.
Like he's pausing to taste and savor the word.
@@willbond agreed
Can we just appreciate that we got the perfect cast for these two roles??
Agreed
No argument here. They are both amazing in their roles.
Yes
The guy playing Fisk was so great in this show.....spacing on his name lol
@@stavros950 He played Fisk soo good, that I actually hate Fisk because of his evil.😂😂
There’s like a weird respect between them, but no fear from either side. I want to see them both battle it out one day.
I know right? None of them were afraid of the other, and it's super badass
Didnt fisk lose his family as well? Maybe thats the link they share so he’s merciful to frank
Fisk would die an ugly death man
@@AbhinavKumar-xb5wr hand to hand? Never. Fisk is to strong to be taken out by Frank with bare hands. If there are any kind of weapons or items included, then yes Frank can probably kill him quite dirty.
@@alanrayne1693 nah frank has killed much more strong and menacing guys then him
I'm almost in tears knowing how bad Disney is going to screw this up.
SHE HULK lol
@@Irfan87 this was the peak for DD, Punisher and Kingpin. Disney is never recreating an ounce of what was achieved here.
They wont
@@Dee-wq4bl I hope your right
I got hopes ngl
It's easy to see how perfect they are in retrospect but whoever casted the actors in Daredevil is a genius.
Marvel is really good to casting from the mcu to fox
Haven't seen Daredevil, have to check it out. Punisher is great.
@@eldorado1830 You started Punisher before Daredevil🤔?
@@psplus3892 haha I did too. Makes so much more since after watching DD now. I gotta say I think DD is a bit better. They are both 11/10s for me tho
M'eh. Charlie Cox was great as Daredevil. Kingpin and Elektra were great. Ben Urich, great. Foggy, Punisher and Karen Page were mediocre.
The fact that D'onofrio plays Fisk, one of the most terrifying mobsters in fiction, and also plays the grizzled frontiersman in Magnificent Seven is a testament to his range.
not to mention he was the first Thor in Advs. of Babysitting :)
I believe that bear is wearing peoples cloths
He also plays the hick farmer/bug in Men in Black. I need sugar!! Lol
Indeed, he was private pile as well.
@M V HOLY SHIT! I bet this is what Pyle would have been had he not shot Hartman and himself.
Both of these actors need to reprise these roles in the MCU.
NO. It wouldnt be brutal in the slightest like in these series.
If you make punisher PG, you miss the point of punisher
Nah, Thomas Jane for punisher in the MCU or nothing.
The only thing I'd ever want from The Punisher in the MCU is for him to bitch slap that Mary Sue Captain Marvel around. She's no hero, she is a danger to the MCU as a whole.. just by being there.
@@Catonzo Don't you worry. Rogue is gonna do that to her, steal her powers and leave her in a coma.
When I first started watching Daredevil and they were introducing Kingpin, I was initially taken aback by this actor for him. I thought him a poor choice. However, as good actors always do, he won me over. Bravo! I give him a standing ovation.
I especially love Kingpin's manipulation at the very end, which is literally the truth:
"To kill your way to justice, not for me, not for yourself of course not. For your family, for them."
I knew he was going to kill it. I hate how all this corporate bullshit lead to these shows being cancelled.
Was it because of Micheal Clark Duncan? Duncan was the only part of the Daredevil movie I liked.
You must be in your 20's, early 20's at that.
yeah is really an actor
He's come a long, long way since Private Pyle.
LITERALLY GETS HEADBUTTED, PUNCHED IN THE FACE 4 TIMES, AND SLAMED TWICE BY KINGPIN, *rubs hands from handcuffs being too tight*
He got punched 6 times
Shows you how tough frank castle is.
@Drastic Danny cockslammed ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
That's the thing, when you're in a fight, you tend not to feel the hits when they come. A constant irritation like the cuffs though...
You never been cuffed for any period of time have you
I forgot how damn brutal they made this series.
Glorious.
Violence is the key to a great action show
You look like Eddie bravo lol
@@vietnamsemonky4082 A fellow Jitzer?
@@JiuJitsuTrashcan of course, as Eddie would say I’m looking into it
@@mattjagar6324 Which is something the theme park MCU shows sorely miss.
Fisk: “How could one man be capable of such... Violence.”
This coming from the man who caused a series of catastrophes in Daredevil season 1.
True. Except Frank reserves violence for criminals
He is almost appealing to his ego trying to manipulate him that way.
And 2
Cave in that guy's head with a car door !!!
He choked a man himself too
D'Onofrio carried the Kingpin over PERFECTLY. Made for this role. Kingpin was pretty much a giant, rather round, not looking like he was terribly strong and extremely physically fast, dangerous and tough. But he was ALL that with a genius intellect and an inhuman resilience. You feel ALL of that here.
Bernthal was a born Punisher.
Going to miss all this. Disney now has it. Its done.
Disney had it before this show even came out
@@braydenbannon5797 I wasnt aware of that :O Its to their credit they let these characters be true to form. I thought this was Netflix owned by this point.
@@shkotayd9749 -- you are correct. This was all Netflix property until a few years ago when the rights reverted back to Disney. And, they now have the Netflix properties (Daredevil, Punisher, etc) on Disney. Unfortunately, with this new version of Daredevil they are filming they probably will Disney-fy it, so it will suck.
Isnt kingpin all muscle in the comics
@@shoazdon7000 Yah but he looks fat and otherwise bulky. One would think of a strong guy who is probably otherwise utterly out of shape.
And that absolutely was not the case with Kingpin.
_“Well, that's the guy I've been worried about this whole time. Kingpin.”_
!!! There’s no kingpin without Daredevil and the Punisher! Can’t wait for what these MCU shows have in store
haven’t freaked out that much in a long time seeing him
I understood that reference
Kingpin's apparent relation with Ronin and the events in the post blip criminal world just match with this scene so perfectly. He pretty much applied this same plan but with Hawkeye as his pawn for total control and power. Can't wait to see this character again
Came back here after finally catching up to the finale holy did they dumb down and absolutely butcher the character. A LOT.
🙋🏼♀️
Frank _knows_ Fisk is using him and manipulating him, but he also knows he literally can't refuse
If he takes the offer, he avenges his family and continues to murder criminals, laying the groundwork for Fisk's return in the process
If he refuses, he dies
also if he takes the offer he can prevent Fisk's return so there really is no choice but to take it
It's one of those "Damned if you do, Damned if you don't".
Actually he refuses to first offer, Fisk wants to manipulate Frank to work for him just like he did with Bullseye in 3 season
Don't worry, Fisk doesn't end up making it happen. When Thanos snapped his fingers, there ends up being lots of chaos in the prisons and Fisk (who survived the snap) manages to escape from prison. However Hawkeye having just become Ronin tracks down Fisk and finishes him off along with everyone else associated with him. That's my theory anyway.
Thats the genius of Kingpin.
We need Punisher and Daredevil to be renewed. These shows were so damn good.
Or punisher joining the defenders
Which do you think was better?
Careful what you wish for. Disney will never make anything close to Netflix' Daredevil or Punisher. I don't much care to watch the PG13 woke version of either.
@@jeronimo196 Why not? Can you help me to understand why The Punisher got cancelled in the first place? It’s a great show and it needs another season to top it off like with Daredevil, it had 3 seasons
@@justchillin6314 Netflix had to return the rights to Disney. And even if Disney decides to continue Daredevil in some form, it will be PG13 wokefest. They brought Kingpin in "Hawkeye" only to turn him into a joke.
I don't see them even attempting "Punisher".
Takes a beating from Frank Castle and wants to release him. That just shows how methodical Fisk's character is. Brilliant casting and writing.
No one ever talks about Vincent D'Onofrio's performance as King Pin. Freaking brilliant! He displayed the gravitas, the intelligence, and the brutal violence of the man.
But not close to his physique.. King Pin suppose to look like Eddie hall in his heavier state.. this dude just fat and no muscles.. can clearly see that in his bench press scene lol
I'm pretty sure a lot of people talk about it.
@@MrRomegard There are only handfuls of people in the world big as Eddie Hall, you'd never find one that could act well. Better to get the good actor than the right body yet unable to act.
@@fieldy409 i know, but putting in effort in The gym would be easy for this dude as he is big already, not saying he needs to be eddie/halfthor size etc but atleast you know... try to do a Little bit of effort 😅
This dude is built like the fat controller in Thomas the tank engine
Netflix cancels the best shows smh daredevil and punisher
And my 4.3"
2.1 take it er leave it
Disney cancelled it...not netflix...
@@Krondon-SSR what does this have to do with penis size!?
Disney can suck my 7.62 millimeter.
I love how Frank just goes for it. He hits first despite being handcuffed to a fucking bed lol, not to mention Fisk is absolutely massive and described (in the comics at least) to be a man of pure muscle. And given how easily he beats people to death in this show I’m assuming that’s true in the show as well.
Hawkeye confirms this, I think. The dude gets shot with an arrow straight in the chest and casually breaks it off, he throws around a 100 lbs girl dozens of feet, tanks a car with little injury, etc.
@@andyroobrick-a-brack9355 yeah I kinda assumed they were going full on comic accurate kingpin when it came to Hawkeye. The mcu has really been going for comic accuracy this last phase of the mcu and it’s been really fun to watch aesthetically. Everyone’s new costumes are awesome.
@@andyroobrick-a-brack9355 I thought that was dumb…But hey since he has super strength now maybe he’ll fight Spider-Man.🙏
@@spider-jonah-man7148 Meh, Kingpin is one of the strongest humans, but Parker could take him apart if he wanted to, he just holds back against non-superpowered people
@@flykintoun i know he does that after Fisk kills aunt May.
I love when Kingpin slams his fists, its one of his signatures in the comics.
I love all the people who have clearly not watched the show and don't understand the character commenting on Fisk's "bad" acting here. D'Onofrio's performance as Wilson Fisk on this show is absolutely brilliant.
You may be right in that it would help to understand the character, but he still is having trouble remembering lines. His timing and punctuation are a bit off. That has nothing to do with watching the whole show.
Hmmm, didn't realize this is a TV show. Not that that gives it a pass, but I understand the level of acting better now.
Yehat Terminator He's not having trouble remembering lines. Vincent D'Onofrio is a top-notch actor. His delivery here is very much intentional. And it's not a "TV" show, technically. It's a Netflix show. Much higher production values than your average network TV fare.
Couldn't agree more highlander.He is an amazing actors and this series is top notch
I love D'Onofrio as an actor and think he's amazing.. but.. I have to admit I'm having trouble understanding what about the show or Fisk's character would rationalize what comes across as a pretty cheesy scene with cheesy acting? Idk
Man, I loved how serious everyone took their roles, absolutely loved King Pin and Punisher's actors. Where NONE of them were "quippy" heroes and villains. They were ACTUAL performance, where I love the idea if Vincent woke up as Fisk and Bernthal woke up as Castle, told that's just who they are and what they have to be in order to make it a certain time in the real world. Where it feels like both almost performed as both as if their lives depended on it. Amazing.
You can tell they researched the characters and it worries me that Disney doesn't do this very well since they are going to start the show back
One batch two batch, penny and dime
This is why I wish morbius should’ve been rated R
Masterful performances and God given gifts of acting, remarkable
They just don't do it for me, King Pin sounds like a duck learning to speak
The show daredevil and punisher is 10 times better than flash
Why are you talking about flash that's a loser move
There is no comparison
It's like talk about joker and avengers, those movies are different
How can you even compare them?
Better than the whole Arrow verse that's for sure
I love it when Frank punches Fisk and Fisk stumbles around like an enemy in a game that's too high level for you to fight and you're only taking 1 HP from him after hitting him with multiple attacks
When they stare each other down you can see Fisk is standing closer to the camera to make him look bigger , classic movie techniques
At 6"3 1/2' - it doesn't take that much of a camera angle. eh?
@@MrDSNZ I watched both seasons of the punisher before watching daredevil... Did I make a mistake and is daredevil good.. should I watch it?
@@noelsamuel3884 you made a terrible mistake young child watch the first 2 seasons of daredevil or just s2 if you want to see the punisher and daredevil fight.
@@noelsamuel3884 oh yeah its good. if you like Daredevil try Jessica Jones. Those two are the best put of the defenders series.
@@ericaclay4746 I already watched punisher but still I'll give daredevil a try!!!
THIS is comic book dialogue. Silly, over-the-top, but charming as all hell.
What I like about Deadpool and punisher is that Deadpool is just a good, just cracking jokes, and punisher talks like a marine, realistic. I really don’t like comic book dialogue. Don’t call Deadpool comic dialogue, he’s better than that
Thats a good point
Or television. All cop shows are like this. "Why did you rape and murder that 10-year old girl?". "Because she was asking for it, man!". Right. Just like real life. No one ever lies.
One of the things I like about the character that is Kingpin. He is as self-assured as he is self-indulgent. He monologues because he knows he can, and he enjoys it. For him, it's also a power move. To show he doesn't care if you know or not- it's a means of him asserting himself. Only people in complete control can afford to monologue like that- anyone else has liabilities to exploit from it. And he does like his theatrics, when it suits him.
"charming" doesn't sit right with me.
Besides the fact that Vincent absolutely brings the character of the King Pin to life in a big way, His authoritative voice is EPIC. It's like thunder.
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I think he comes across as cartoonic and goofy in this role, but its a matter of opinion
His voice is good, but tbh, it sounds forced and inauthentic
@TheRuffingtonya I think his voice sounds kinda stupid
The way Castle/Bernthal sways back and forth as Kingpin/D'Onofrio speaks is haunting. He's barely there, in his head he's already where fists are flying.
Also, the way the crooked guards multiplied from 0:14 to 3:12 is a nice touch. Like, yeah, the guy is chained up and getting beaten by a giant, but he's also still the goddamn Punisher. Can't be too careful!
I've rewatched this scene a million times and never noticed how the guards multiplied. That's a great detail. Good eye!
He’s like a caged animal, already planning how to take down his prey when he gets out.
Vincent D'Onofrio is one of the most underrated actors of all time. Such a gem of an actor.
He's perfectly rated given his catalogue of acting credits, but because it's a video of him you decide to use hyperbole.
MCU daredevil is better than the dark knight trilogy
The man has been praised since "Full metal jacket". So def not underrated.
What the hell do you think "underrated" means?
@@Gnarfledarf He doesn't know what it means, just like everyone else that uses the term. It has no meaning in the subjective world of art and music where I see it used on every You Tube page. You can find some loser saying it in regards to every band, artist, etc. It just goes to show you how retarded most people are.
Fisk beats him up just to “establish dominance” then continues explaining his motivations and his plan 😂
lol i realized the same thing
I didn't take long to notice, it was to obvious.....
He only got the clean punches in because Frank was chained.
He likes Frank
Not dominance, no. He does it to show that, in that moment, he is at least Franks equal and to save face in front of the guards. Frank had Fisk reeling from hits even while chained and right after killing a cell block of inmates. Fisk isn't asserting dominance, he's just matching physical force in the only instance that he'd ever be able to against the Punisher.
If only Fisk hadn’t hid that jelly donut in his footlocker...
His mommy and daddy never showed him enough attention when he was a child. XD
@@brendanforester4601 *immediately shot in chest*
Fmj was a great movie
@@radpan9642 Bullshit, I can't hear you! Sound off like you got a pair!
THANK YOU, I couldn't figure out where he was from. PRIVATE PILE
We deserve shows like daredevil & punisher
I'm glad the punisher stayed away from all that super hero shit in his show
He became war machine once
and then they fucking cancelled it. wtf. he was the best punisher ever
bludstanes there’s going to be a season 3 of the punisher. Seasons 1&2 were awesome.
Ary M well no it’s cancelled so obviously not
Brad2928 they’ll pbly bring it back Disney+ but hopefully not change it Disney style smh
Fisk: *Praises a man for his violence.*
Also Fisk: *Beats the piss out of him.*
Sébastien Gallois whilst chained up though
Wilko Is Mee that's not the point
I bet Castle would love to gauge Fisk's eyes out.
Chained up and exhausted from just destroying all those other guys.
Kind of like someone waiting until someone has done a marathon then challenging them to a race. Lol
@@grayalun nobody ever accused Fisk of being stupid; those who did are probably dead.
The best Fisk ever. No other actor could even come close to nailing his mannerisms.
Of course, Fisk was trained by drill sergeant Hartmann
Micheal Clarke Duncan?
@@ClarenceJBoddicker1987yeah but a shitty movie can bring down a great personality.
Same can be said with keanu reeves but when he’s in a bad movie it fucking shows
@@clawzx1195 a great personality is just as memorable as a shitty movie. A great individual performance is still a great individual performance despite how bad a team is.
@@ClarenceJBoddicker1987 👏🏿
I love that when Frank sends the headbutt and starts the fight he says "how's that?"
Jon Bernthal really did nearly kill someone in real life by his bare hands for messing with his dog. Not too far from this character.
you are thinking of john wick lol
@@BINDRUNE no, he talked about it on the joey diaz podcast I think
@@indigocarra2762 yeah
When the casting is actually too good
Anyone would, dont mess with a mans dog
😂 I like how kingpin fights like a giant child but it still works for him.
When you have his strength anything works 😂
Dude really started flailing his arms around and still won.
@@matthewphillips1890 true tho😂
His character pretty much is a giant child lol
I mean, wrecking balls are unwieldy, flailing tools, yet they're still wrecking balls.
Fisk's fighting style is called Angry Baby
William Poole how about Angry Man Baby.
it looks like greco-roman wrestling and a lil aikido but ummmm ok lol
lol
good luck trying to steal the top comment
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To this day, I’m flabbergasted that Netflix had such good writers for this show. Whoever those writers were, may god bless their souls.
They just need to get those directors and writers back for Born Again, but there's no way that's going to happen, too much forced politics where you don't have to use them, too much jokes and light hearted stories, instead of giving us something gritty and dark, without pulling punches and playing safe, they will not do it because they like playing safe
I miss this writing, netflix connected universe. MCU sucks now
Frank would clap him if he didn’t just kill like 10 prisoners and wasn’t cuffed
no he wouldnt. Even spiderman has problems with kingpins physical strength. Frank is a total pro in what hes doing but hes not invincible.
@@eziohagebuddne3097 the punisher doesnt feel pain
@@ADDONRACER Bullshit. Of course he does but his psychic pain overweights any physic pain by far. But of course he feels it. Frank Castle isnt superman.
Im the only one here who actually read the punisher comics, could that be?
@@eziohagebuddne3097 he could feel it but he always pushes
It's called compartmentalizing pain... I as a pro motocross rider can do it. I hate stubbing my toe while walking to tbe fridge but if I break an arm during a moto I can and have rode through it, among other injuries throughout my career. Pushing pain to the side combined with the best pain killer of all,, adrenalin, it overrides pain. For awhile at least. There's no such thing as pain tolerance, we all feel it the same, but we as individuals have a better mindset than others and some are more capable than others to push it to the back of our minds and focus on the task at hand.
Fisk tried to recruit Agent PointDexter (aka Bullseye) the same way he tried to recruit Castle. Only difference is that Bullseye fell for Fisk's manipulation while Castle didn't
Joash Mathew he never tried to recruit Castle though. Fisk, being the observant man that he is, could tell that Castle would never directly assist him. Instead Fisk merely set him loose, so that Castle’s rampage over his enemies would create a power vacuum for Fisk to fill after he eventually gets out of prison. On the other hand, Poindexter was a mentally ill murderer who legitimately enjoyed killing people, not just because he believed in harsh justice. Also, the North Star dependence that Poindexter had made him much easier to manipulate, which Fisk did.
@@davaa31 yeah, you worded it better
Frank Castle is like a mix of Matt Murdock and PointDexter
Stubborn as hell (Matt)
Hurt by people lost someone he really cared about (Dex)
Frank doesn’t need anyone to give him some love he’s been there and done that and people took it away from him so those people paid a price (life) (face)
But dex on the other hand he was mentaly ill no one ever loved him he killed and didn’t feel any emotions whatsoever he doesn’t know the diffrence between good and evil
He just likes trowing shit at moving objects and doesn’t care at all
Bullseye is mentally unstable and has a brain tumor.
@@karllafaille6362 not really, he's unstable only if he doesn't have a supporting figure in his life
Damn, if Punisher wasn't chained up and still recovering from numerous wounds, Kingpin would be in trouble! xD
Stephen McCracken
These aren't the comics' versions of the characters though, so that's pretty much a moot point.
+Gustav Ramirez they still draw inspiration from it and follow a fair bit of their structure.
mike C
Doesn't change the fact that it's a moot point, as MCU Kingpin is currently more of a strength-based brawler rather than an actually skilled combatant, while MCU Punisher is a skilled marine with years of experience, whose blows, as seen here, were able to make even the much larger Fisk stagger, despite Punisher being weakened at the time.
The punisher was also chained up. He was stabbed several times and had just been beaten by fully armed riot guards. Kingpin wasn't chained up and he hadn't just brutally killed five men and he didn't just fight riot police. I doubt that Kingpin wouldn't have been quite easily beaten by this version of the Punisher because he may hit hard but, he is slow compared to DD or the Punisher. That is how he got beaten in the first place by DD.
Adam Short
Exactly, and this Punisher is shown to be able to hit harder than DD!
My God, Vincent deserves so much. He is such an amazing actor who can cover so many different roles. Not only can he cover so many roles, but the amount of dedication and effort he puts into each role is just...amazing, truly to the T. This man, this man is such a versatile actor.
John Berenthol is another such actor. He can fit into many roles, and he is genuinely a good guy.
I love how the guards were so scared of him they didn’t even bother to actually take the cuffs all the way off
I love how despite the fact that Fisk knows that on the streets Castle would happily kill him he still treats Castle with respect and even a slight bit of admiration. True humility
We can only hope for Disney to continue Punisher content in the future (hopefully with Bernthal) where we see more scenes of Frank doing what he does. I think it would be great if they did a movie or tv show version if when Frank Castle took the War Machine suit.
It's fear not humility.
@@hooktraining3966 Disney would make a snowflake version of punisher cracking jokes every minute
@@arsenijekrasnic8479 this show is now canon I’m pretty sure
@@thewizard7396 it is. Murdoch is in Spiderman too.
2:32 the iconic hit of Kingpin. He killed Spider-man using the same way
He killed spiderman?
@@markodjurovic7803 Spiderman into the spiderverse
Its not about the money spiderman
@@agua246 it's about THE METS BABY
And frank brushed it off easily
Two incredible actors that knew the material.
The daredevil, the punisher, and kingpin was written & acted out so beautiful, everyone that had a hand in it should be very proud of their work
No you are wrong
She hulk, Hawk eye are greatly written and actors in it were really proud 😂
Even after beating the shit out of someone, Fisk always returns his hands behind his back. What a gentleman.
😂😂😂
Frank was all beat up from his earlier meatgrinder brawl
Who cares what he went through no mercy if you still wanna raise your hands at the king shackled and all and he took the shackles off and was ready for more smoke frank was a dead man if he didn’t comply right here
@@devantedillard6428doubt it
I love how Fisk's hands are behind his back the entire time. He doesn't feel...any concern to shield himself from Punisher. For how bad of a dude Frank Castle is and all of the infamous things Fisk has heard about him, the dude is unafraid of him!
Edit: Full disclosure, haven't seen the show, just calling out the body language I'm observing.
Dude what? He has 20 armed guards on his side behind him, he is shook af. Beating on someone in chains is pure insecurity. Kingpin is threatened as fuck very clearly the entire scene.
Are you serious? lmao the punisher just fought 10 people and was gassed and thrown into the cell with fisk while being handcuffed so why in any way would fisk be scared ? He has every advantage a person can have and tbh he needs it because in a straight up fight based on this showing the punisher would possibly beat fisk in a straight up fight where Frank isn't tied up,tired,hurt from fighting,etc.
Fisk is just a narcopath, punisher would end him.
If it was on the streets, Frank would've just casually shot him and walked away. Fisk knew Frank wasn't a major threat to him here.
@@H.K.5 comics fisk was killing the Punisher
I still go back to this video from time to time. The acting here is simply incredible.
and when we look at today's series, oh man
Lets just give a huge round of applause for these two amazing actors..
Name of movie or series?
@@xclawnitin3890 daredevil s2 i believe
Punisher... slaughtered an entire group of armed prisoners, gets handcuffed and then proceeds to fight the biggest guy in the place and even though he's restrained still manages to get in more then a few good shots and then laughs after taking punches to the face.... punisher.... thank god you aren't real
Kingamatic23
He could? No man, Frank he *WOULD* , his the Punisher goddammit and he has done that in the past. That's why only superhumans can stop him, otherwise his the last thing our governments wants in real life.
@Kingamatic23 clearly you don't know about justice
Kingpin clearly let the other punches happen. he stood there taking the hits before slamming his ass onto the table.
Frank didn't even draw a drip of blood. Frank Managed nothing but that first Headbutt
@@michaelmiller7909 A lot of these people are victims themselves with warped perceptions of what is right and wrong. A mindset like that makes you no better than any murderer or any rapist. You do not know them, do not understand them, and have no idea how many people on the sex offender list arent anywhere near the kind of person youre even referring to.
@@Ravathiel He got stunned from them. Punisher may have not drawn blood from the later punches but Fisk definitely felt it. Also Punisher's hands were cuffed on top of just fighting for his life against fifteen prison mates so it's not like he can deliver his standard punches. Fisk has weight and most likely power on his side but put these two in a fair one on one fight Punisher wins every single time.
Christ, Vincent D'onofrio IS the Kingpin. What a performance.
Absoluteley mesmerizing energy. I can feel my lip curling with the animosity.
Frank Grillo would have made a better Frank Castle Punisher. He just looks the part. He's in The purge anarchy and Captain America winter soldier. He played Cross bones. What's his face from the walking dead just doesn't do it for me. Oh yeah, Shane that was his name. Lol
@Justin Gary Best avenger movie up to that point in time imho. Also, great minds think alike. Lol
The kingpin of performance
He's also "Thor" (adventures in babysitting)
So does this make him the original "Fat Thor"?
We might finally get a rematch between these two in daredevil born again
Wilson Fisk is a tough guy, until Gunnery Sergeant Hartman strolls in.
Oorah
I guess we all know what private Pyle is doing with his life
Especially with a Jelly Donut 🍩
Hahaaa, yeah!
Holy crap I did not realize that was him! OMG!
Netflix shows had Genuine talented actors, Marvel Studios would be really stupid to reboot their characters.............
unfortunately that's exactly what they're going to do why because Disney is fucking stupid and likes to ruin everything for everyone they completely fuck Star Wars up
@@jaytaylor2971They may reboot some characters but John will still play the punisher
Jon bernthal and Charlie cox are still gonna play there characters
I heard they canceled the shows due to Disney plus
Khyree Dove should move them to Hulu.
The casting for everyone in the show deserves an award itself.
This is peak Marvel series.
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Why did they get trashed so early on?
I don't understand all the politics of characters, but I always thought kingpin was a marvel villian... this works well with him being in DC punisher though.
@@OrhallaZander that’s what I thought but then again, Marvel could never create a character like Kingpin
Vincent D’Onofrio is truly one of the best actors of our time. He’s both theatrical and cinematic at the same time, convincingly.
Fisks fighting style is supposed to be unorthodox, random, and crude. He depends on his size and strength, even in the comics. His style has a lot of sumo moves in the comics, plus several other martial arts. In this case it is not style but primal moves and strength.
In the comics he’s a skilled martial artist relying purely on his strength but still got the technique right
I don’t see this kingpin using either of those
The guy acting him may havr trouble with technique so he could just use brute strength
In a full strength fist you would take your arm all the way to the back and then curve it for extra momentum
He used a half punch which was still very slow
This show is trash, they do whatever they think looks and sounds cool. This time it failed... dont try to justify and explain it...
WrestlingGuy87 well said my FUZE MAIN
Just shut up and enjoy the fucking fight
Looks like Uncle Phil.
I honestly think Punisher was way more compelling on Daredevil than he was on his own show. I mean Bernthal was great on both shows but I still feel his best work in the role was in Daredevil. The scenes on the roof and in the cemetary between him and Daredevil were some of the best scenes on any of these shows.
Nikunj Dixit also seeing The Punisher from another POV made him so damn scary like he just out there killing I love it
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Absolute truth.
Nah
Agreed, those two series were great. Great fight choreography.
You know that they did a good job casting when The Punisher (Jon Bernthall) can look large, tall and intimidating, but Kingpin (Vincent D'Onofrio) still stands over him.
Stop lying.. That punisher looks average as fuck..GTFOH Hypebeast
+SDS Overfiend yeah I didn't really like bernthal as the punisher I mean he was great in twd but I just don't see the punisher when I look at him all these people tripping lol
thedarkknight646 Exactly... Punisher is physically menacing.. Bernthal isn't.. They are trying to flesh out a story that isn't there.. He doesn't spend time weeping and drinking
+SDS Overfiend Yeah, Bernthal is 5'10.
+SDS Overfiend Way too much shit happening in season 2 for Punisher to be as fleshed out as you want him to be.They're gonna do that drinking and weeping shit on his own Netflix show.
I love how this take make daredevil something different. Not the 15th acrobatic vigilante with witty banter, but a gritty person who takes his disability and uses it to strengthen his remaining senses. This is a good Daredevil, just a blind guy in a kick ass suit
Daredevil isn't even entirely without quips in this. But he's not throwing them out mid fight.
Maybe pre fight.
Idk one of my favorite comic panels is DD coming home from whatever and he senses there are guys with nightvision giggles waiting for him. So he goes "oh no, whatever will I do", and then calmly flicks the lights on so they're all blinded
Why Fisk sounds like he's telling a story but with a deep voice!
@Mauricio
"I decided to kill my mother..."
Wait to dark...
“Are you mocking me?”
Using his MIB bug voice, kinda.
Because that's exactly what he's doing
yeah his voice doesn't match what you'd expect with his face lol
I like how Fisk had a whole speech ready for him, but as soon as it gets interrupted, he drops it.
Private Pyle secretly survived the shot to the head and came back as the Kingpin.
Lmao
Kyle Coyne he learned from the drill sergeant
Is that really him? Lmao
Sswineamer69 oh shit it is wtf
Loved to think he survived the gunshot (obviously not) and returns with a new personality.
This fight scene and the prison hallway before this one was just so brutal and violent, and I love it!
I actually like how actors add some uniqueness to there roles. This kingpin has this strange awkwardness, but it really matches his calculated, smart mind and his sadistic enjoyment when he gets his hands dirty.
An snob
Probably explains why I could never find this scene when watching the punisher. I should have been watching daredevil 😂
Thats what i said 😆
Lol same
Noobs .
Why would you watch Punisher before Daredevil? Makes no sense. You need to watch them in order. You should also watch the other Marvel Netflix Shows cuz they're really good. They're all in the same universe.
@@draxthedestroyer3384 what happened on season 2 daredevil was before the events in punisher series.
Vincent D’Onofrio owns every role he plays. It's a shame we don't see more of him.
i just learned that he is Private Pyle. fantastic
I met him in real life working at windham mountain ski resort in windham, NY. Hes good friends with the owners. Hes quiet but he's nice. A lottle weird though like he is changing "characters" as he talks. I guess its an actor thing with identity.
@@TacticoolVIKINGBeard or perhaps he has psychiatric issues
D'Onofrio is King Pin 👑 nobody could've played it better
@Jason Calcanis LMAO not even fucking close to being “cringe” the only thing cringe here is your comment.
Fuck out of here your wrong
These shows characters writing etc were just absolute perfection please bring them back🙏
Name of movie or series?
@@xclawnitin3890 Marvel's Daredevil (then, Marvels' Punisher)
Vincent humanizes Fisk in a way that takes its own special talent to realize. Fisk is genuinely pleased to have a wee slugfest because it actually makes him feel a little less alone.
Damn, that usage of his voice demands power and respect but expels fear.
@@butchayatai Zero likes for your stupid opinion. 😂
Stern
Maximum Karnage 317 now
Maximum Karnage while you only have 5
Great voice and acting but the writing kills it
Would love to see a healthy Frank throw down with Wilson Fisk and or Dex.
Simon Giffin Kingpin would have crushed him , he’s not called “the Kingpin” for nothing
@@millardwashington6216 He wasn't called the Kingpin on account of his hand to hand. Fisk can throw down, I admit that....but Castle....
@@millardwashington6216 Yeah, and Frank isn't called 'The Punisher" for nothing either.
@@simongiffin4701 Nah, Frank still loses. Logically, no human being should be able to take a punch from Fisk. He casually overpowers car lifting superheros half the time like it's nothing.
I d put mini wolverine up against any of them.
Now that its official that Frank is coming back for daredevil Born Again, these two better keep that promise.
That guy is the perfect Kingpin... *Dat voice!*
Its shit all I can see is fat gorren when I see this idiot
Sounds forced af
@@butchayatai your a loser
who knew that goober pile had talent
Michael clarke duncan was a kingpin that could throw punches thooooo
Is it just me or D’Onofrios acting gets better every season
D'Onofrios
No, it's not you. He's one of my favorites all time. I love love love his style and I try to steal from him as much as I can.
Very peculiar in his style ... awesome
I love how season 1 Kingpin was very withdrawn, and kinda unsure/under confident. Now, he has embraced the animal rage inside him. Gonna be a bad ass rematch between him and DD
+Samuel Markert Wait, D-Dog is in this show? JK lol
Hahaha good point xD
+Samuel Markert he's basically Daniel Plainview. VD even gives him the same voice.
If you consider that Vincent D Onofrio, who played Private Paula in Full Metal Jacket, was bullied by his instructor and then shot at the end of his training, his roles have changed a lot,Wenn man bedenkt, dass Vincent D. Onofrio, der Private Paula in „Full Metal Jacket“ spielte,der von seinem Ausbilder gemobbt und am Ende seiner Ausbildung erschossen wurde, haben sich seine Rollen stark verändert.
That first backhand followed with the hook is honestly my favourite hit I’ve ever seen on tv. Big dude using momentum and size to his advantage. I really hope Vincent returns to the MCU
Yea Dats the quickest most unique way of hitting your opponent I seen from a big dude I peeped that shit I never seen that before
He also manages to look like some kind of manchild too, to really hone in on the idea that for all his bluster, he's still an awkward boy.
That fighting style reminds me of Choy Lay Fut Kung Fu
Petr Yan actually knocked Sandhagen down in UFC fight with this exact combination.
@@elessartelcontar9415 Fisk's movements before he swung were pretty hard to read he leaned back as if he was gonna lead with his right making his backhand pretty unexpected. Things happen much faster than you'd expect I think it's totally believable he could land a hit with this method even against a trained fighter. Also Castle was pretty exhausted from having just fought for his life against like twelve dudes or something.
King Pins way of talking makes him seem more real than any media that has ever portrayed him. He is coarse, loud but also polite and measuring every word in his mind. You can hear the odd combination of sophistication and menacing street talk which makes him in and of itself a character filled with contradiction. There is such depth in this portrayel.
Well said
Jon Bernthal must return as the punisher. The movie guy isn’t holding the mantle
There’s a punisher movie? Is it set in the MCU?
@@sharpstriker1559 no
@@sharpstriker1559 yea there’s three Punisher movies but it’s not in the Mcu
@@PhxntomNV 3 movies? I thought there were only 2 ( punisher and punisher warzone )
@@jaycutler4013 there's even an older one from the 90's.
This show is an example to be admired and emulated...
•Spider-Man takes one slam from Fisk and dies.
•Punished takes two slams from Fisk and proceeds to slowly sit up and rub hands cause cuffs are too tight.
Cause that's not a real kingpin, comics version kingpin would easily beat that punisher to death just with the few punchs.
ThirstSilver maybe, but the real punisher won’t give him that opportunity
That Kingpin would shit all over this Kingpin.
Edit: ducking auto correct
That's bc Miles' Peter in ITSV was heavily injured by the super collider
@@ThirstSilverHaveFun Lol comics punisher would beat comics kingpin
“That’s the guy I’ve been worried about this whole time….”
-Hawkeye
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I love the fact that a guy who fought Thanos and his army is still horrified of Kingpin. That's how scary Vincent's Fisk is.
@ROSCHE nah...he was fine really
Thanos is a ghost, was an ideal.
The kingpin is flesh and blood, literally ruining the here and now.
If Clint and Bishop don't do things correctly, it's heavily implied the kingpin will kill their families and not respectfully either.
Clint already lost his family in endgame so it's not the same type of dread. It worse.
@ROSCHE true, that was lame
why does he sound like a mix of Yoda and cookie monster
a nice catch, that was. hmm
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Mirza Haider lol!😂😂
AH YES THE SON OF A BOXER
You deserve an award for this comment but you've ruined DD for me now.
+Jed Sheldon sorry lol
The fact they accurately potray kingpin as by all accounts stronger but not nearly as skilled as frank is such a chery on top. Its lore accurate