@@PlaystationGamerZX I mean he lost so much power and his men especially after the snap, all he had was the tracksuit mafia so he had to resort to doing things himself. Maybe in Echo we'd see more of him rebuilding his criminal empire.
You are in Hawkeye aren’t you? "Ask Jeremy Renner, he'll deny it!" "Ask Hailee Steinfeld, she'll deny it!" "Ask the cast and crew, they'll cut their tongues out before they talk!"
This is easily one of the best scenes in the whole series so far...and also the most disturbing. You can tell how dedicated Vincent D'Onofrio is to his character...but in spite of his temper, Fisk is still that terrified boy who murdered his Dad to protect his Mom.
@@THEGODDAMNDINOSAUR it also means: bestow an award or praise on (someone) in recognition of an achievement. "she will be laurelled alongside politicians, historians, and other actors"
Matt's issue is that he underestimates both Fisk's power AND compassion. He thinks Wilson sees Vanessa as a prized object and not someone he'd die for. Mentioning her name so casually, he clearly didn't realize how much she truly means to Fisk. In a way this beating is a wake up call that Murdock needs to up his game and realize that Fisk is his equal and not some petty lowlife thug.
John Curcio I agree with the other guys that have posted on your comment and also he let Fisk beat him up, if he fought back he would reveal that he is Dare Devil.
Michael Mallory Only Fisk DID realize that Murdock was Daredevil. In the scene at the end of this episode he touches his hurt lip and asks to re-examine Matt's files. Even that one little punch gave him away, and it gave him away because Matt wasn't expecting that beating coming, otherwise he wouldn't have hit Fisk at all. Matt may have gotten some information off Fisk, but Fisk got way more in return.
Maniac742 nah man, he doesn’t find out until season 3. Stop reaching and he touching his lip and asking bout his file cause that punch low key rocked his world. It ain’t till season three that he really figure shit out.
Because this is their best story by far. Dark, gritty and with solid characters all over the place. Just needed to get the casting right, which they did in spades. The only slight negative I can find about it is that Frank Castle should be a bit taller, which means we're now nitpicking for the gold medal at the nitpicking Olympics. Everything else is spot on, and the script is great as well. Just a superb job all round.
@@MrGamelover23 That is a hard call. The Punisher was great. However, Daredevil is too. Also, the Punisher is in season 2 of Daredevil so I think that gives the edge to Daredevil right now. The bottom line is.... watch both of them.
@@bingbingchavez he didn’t have enough reason to rage out. He clearly didn’t want to just kill Kate bishop. We should be thankful that we even got him on screen in the mcu at all again. I’m sure we’re going to see more of him in the future anyways so you still have hope
@@Mike16793 thankful that we got him in the MCU? are you kidding? everyone and their mother is a part of the mcu at this point it's not too much to ask to respect their characters
D'Onofrio is a master! This is one of the best portrayals of a bad guy since Ledger's Joker. D'Onofrio should win an Oscar or Emmy or whatever the hell awards streaming TV gets.
I love how Fisk's monolouge gradually evolves from one of anger to one of passion as he speaks about Vanessa. It really demonstrates how his convictions are just as powerful as he is.
He would do a much better job at that if the glasses were of a diffrent colour. Why would a blind man wear red glasses? And why would DD have a mask that cover his eyes? Maybe because they are one person trying so hard for everyone to make the link apparently.
@@SamUnderStars no no, he's kind over right. He touched his lip at the end of the episode and it reminded him of a busted lip he got from Daredevil. He decided to check all of his case files to see if there is any correlation between Matt and Daredevil, maybe even the possibility of them being the same person. He didn't confirm it until season 3, it was mostly just speculation
That's an interesting way to look at it. I see it as him still recovering from the initial shock of the first hits the entire time. Fisk was in full control.
Man, this scene is terrifying. Matt clearly was holding back though. He could've easily break out from the grapple, but he didn't want to show Fisk who he really is. But he instinctively threw an uppercut which made Fisk suspicious later.
I don't think he was holding back. Kingpin is strong and he was already slammed head first into the table like three times. I mean he literally almost fell over when he stood up.
... No, he actually wasn't. That's the thing, Kingpin is a fucking beast. In the comics, he once punched out Spiderman wholesale. Daredevil is more agile, but in straight up strength Kingpin is probably the single strongest purely human character in the entire MCU
Okay, this guy really does this character justice. He is so good I wouldn't be surprised if they made him a main antagonist in the next spider man film. Kingpin not only has a bone to pick with Daredevil, Spider Man also has a tendency of fucking up his shit as well. So imagine this scene, except it's Spider Man tied to a chair with his mask off. I mean think about that, like it would make his threats all the more scarier because they now have a more younger spider man.
I don't think the worlds of the Marvel shows & movies are ever gonna merge like that. It would make the whole universe too confusing. Spiderman has plenty of his own villains that are really cool. I haven't read the Spidey comics but at least based on the 90s cartoons, he seems to be way in over his head when it comes to the Kingpin and understanding his schemes. At least Daredevil kind of knows/understands Fisk.
I wouldn't mind that tbh but it really won't look believable having Fisk against Spidey in the mcu since Fisk isn't huge like in the comics. And besides I feel like Marvel will never take advantage of the whole "same universe" concept. I feel like they confirmed it solely for publicity
I think one of the problems with that is the relative power of characters in the MCU, MCU Fisk is much weaker and far more realistic than the comics version, whereas MCU Spider-Man is the same strength level as in the comics (roughly), and other's like Cap are way stronger. Would be no fun to see Fisk taken out instantly (even with Spidey holding back), would be the same with Dex or Matt, if someone like Spidey or even Cap entered the season 3 ending fight they would wipe the floor with the other 3 guys.
"CUT YOUR HEART OUT, DAD!" - Kilgrave. "How am I supposed to know? Huh? I never know if someone is doing what they want, or what I tell them to." - Kilgrave. "YOU CAN COLLECT YOUR MONEY FROM TONE DOWNSTAIRS, MR.BARRETT." - Cottonmouth. "And I looked..and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat upon him was Death." - Diamondback. "Oh I don't go past..I go through." -Diamondback. There's some good memorable lines.
Killgrave is a waste. Guy has the power to make anyone do what he says and he just squanders it dicking around in Hells Kitchen and manipulating a street level hero like Jessica Jones. What the hell would stop him from waltzing right into the White House and bossing everyone around and manipulating the President to influence the way the world is run?
well, to be fair, there is an unexplained weakness to his power. the show didn't confirm it, but jessica clearly was resistant to the virus in the end. maybe he knew that and didn't want to risk it, dunno.
I like this because this scene shows Murdock's true character. Everything's going smoothly, little too smoothly, so Murdock as the Daredevil he is, wants to visit fisk to remind him he's in control not him just power checking him. He didn't really have to go see him at this time kingpin really wasn't gaining that much traction, Murdock went there specifically to say fuck you. I wish they gave him fractured glasses for this scene would of made it more submersive
Matt was there to try to find out about Frank Castle's escape. I didn't remember it either, but I'm watching it again, and that's what it was. Things aren't really smooth for him either, his relationships with Foggy and Karen are going pretty badly, and he just sent Elektra away because he can't handle her bloodthirst. There was a lot about this season I didn't remember.
Not really, I mean if a blind lawyer suddenly broke free of you're grasp using kung fu moves to take Fisk down like in the first season, it might raise suspicions that maybe matt is more than he seems. I doubt matt would want to blow his cover out of pride.
It's between this and the rooftop scene between Daredevil and The Punisher. This show is on another level within the superhero genre, it's Marvel's Dark Knight Trilogy.
The way he delivered his Shakespearean dialogue was fantastic. He went from Gomer Pyle to Egger to one of the most perfectly cast perfectly portrayed villains in the history of cinema.
Agreed, especially the part where he says, "I'll chop both the heads off of that snake! And I'll send more than six dollars on postage to bring you down!"
Charlie Cox's Daredevil is honestly my absolute favorite character in the entire MCU and the reason why Daredevil is my favorite Marvel character. The amount of the realism and humanity that is brought in this character, as well as the dedication, it's remarkable.
Once Matt punches kingpin he touches his lip remembering the feeling of the exact same punch and finally realizing Matt is daredevil. Which will lead to a badass season 3
Nah he didn’t realize it yet. The punch just made him realize that there might be more to Matt than he realizes. He took a few shots from the Punisher and he didn’t bleed, but this blind lawyer can tag him once in the perfect spot and make him bleed? That’s worth looking into.
That's not why he touched his lip. He was drinking wine and when the alcohol touched the cut on his lip it stung. As soon as it hurts he looks at the glass he was drinking from.
I love how Matt played the part of being a weak blind man, but in one second, his punch tipped Wilson to his hand. The final scene, while Wilson eats his steak, I’m pretty sure he’s thinking “how can a blind man punch me with force and precision?”
It’s amazing that in the season where the primary villains are a traumatized war vet with a sadistic streak and an immortal ninja death cult that syphons blood from children and brainwashed them, it’s the mob boss that’s still the scariest villain in Hell’s Kitchen
Frank was pretty scary too at times, this is the guy that used a corpse as a fakeout for the people that were looking for him and that stabbed himself with razor blades to keep them and use them later to escape
my memory isn't great, but in the comics, i remember fisk was a HUGE guy.. like one of his fists would be much bigger than daredevil's head. and he was strong enough that stuff would just bounce off him like he was made of steel. but donofrio's version is just as if not more scary. this show really lets you understand his character deeply. you see how crazy smart and sophisticated he is as well as physically dangerous. most of all you see the raging anger that's just below the surface.. but you understand and can even sympathize with why he does what he does. they take the whole mob boss archetype and make it a lot more compelling. he and the writers really did a wonderful job with the character
Do you know how Fisk gets so big? He seems to have super human strength. I get that he's a big guy but he looks fat, yet can somehow take more hits than a UFC heavyweight fighter...& hit like one too! The show doesn't really explain how he gets THIS freaking strong.
yeah in the comic he was huge and tough and fast almost like the grey hulk.. i mean i don't THINK he was bullet-proof.. and he was known for being cunning more than anything so he would pick his battles and fight dirty if need be. but yeah i don't even remember any explanation given in the comics. honestly my guess would be that he was just a really really unusually tough guy. and probably would wear body-armored suits.
Yeah, in the Silver Age comics, Fisk was inexplicably huge and strong. He was regularly depicted as more physically powerful than Spider-Man. I'm guessing it was mainly because it was a cool and dramatic visual to have this giant mastermind looming over Spidey. Becoming a Daredevil villain was a great move for the character, since you get to keep that imagery, have it make more sense in contrast to his opponent's powers, and you get the lawyer vs. criminal dynamic.
I'm in the minority, but I found it dissapointing. Daredevil spends too much time whining and moaning in a church basement instead of getting things done, and Kingpin mopes in a prison, becomes 'Kingpin' in like the 11th episode and goes back to prison a few episodes later, never to be seen again? What ever happened to Fisk exposing Daredevil's identity that the show hinted to a million times? Even season 3 hints that it's going to happen, but than it never does. All we get is a nebulous threat in the last fight (which was awful by the way and looked like a WWE match shot with the camera from CSI Miami) Fisk goes back to his old season 1 plan of just using the media to make people hate him...again? And why does everything feel so recycled? I swear Eric Olson must've lifted over half of the plot beats and scenes from season 1. That Karen Page episode was awful too. Yeah...not really getting the love for season 3.
@@arnob1711 NO Idea but that was just incredibly distasteful to this character. If they do bring him back they better make him similar to the show because people are gonna be pissed if they don't.
SPOILERS: No, it was actually from that punch and the wound he got from that on his lips is where he ran a background check, and then took his sweet time in season 3 trying to confirm if his suspicions were true via background checking again and watching the prison fights
I used to think that kingpin was a stupid villain, like what's so scary about a mob boss when thanos is out there. It wasn't until I saw this scene and the one where he smashes a dudes head in a car door for disrupting his dinner with vanessa that I actually grasped just how menacing he can be. Also Vincent is a phenomenal actor
LOL when did you EVER think that Kingpin would have EVER been a "stupid villain"? He never was? Did not read any comics or animated shows where he was in because he was fantastic in all of them!
Fisk returning in the 2nd half saved the season. IMO the Punisher and Elektra storylines would’ve been better in separate seasons. I didn’t think they really meshed together
Shows like this are only as good as the villain. That’s probably why the Netflix shows didn’t last. The lead up to The Defenders was great but The Hand we’re just bland villains who’s storyline just wasn’t that great
@@TheSnake1123 the shows only were canceled because, Netflix’s rights to the IP’s expired. It had nothing to do with the shows. Most of them would have had several more seasons
Most fans seem to dislike season 2, but I thought it was great. What I find funny is, Wilson Fisk should be glad he was in jail at this time. Electra or Stick may have easily killed him if he weren’t. Not because of his criminal enterprise, but because they’d view him as one of Matt’s “distractions”.
@U the first seasons of Daredevil and Jessica Jones set the bar really high for the shows that followed. Luke Cage was good but Iron Fist was a dud from the start. I guessed it timed out perfectly with Infinity War and The Snap
@@teo-pc8yx i mean the intimidation was there. The coercion was there. The rhetoric and the way he delivers is there. I think the office where he was talking to mya at threw him off. And the tracksuits being a joke of a mob threw him off. But I think fisk himself did justice. Also it was nice seeing him fight. But that shouldve been left for clint. I didn't like Seein him fight kate. Shes not even all that good at fighting.
@@tsmacks9 I didn't mind his "fight" against Kate at all since it was clear he wasn't taking her seriously or even trying to kill her. He was basically continuously swatting her away like a fly.
nah, he just had to protect his identity, you wouldn't expect a blind man to not be scared when getting held and yelled at by a big guy, not to mention getting slammed on the table.
What a f*cking scene and what great actors. You can argue Fisk talks in a hammy manner but it somehow doesn't comes off hammy, sounds legit, like this mad man actually talks like this
He couldn’t try to hard tho, he would give himself away. Not much you can do with that giant gorilla of a man yanking on your suit like that. Matt’s back musta been tired as fuck after that lol. Big dude pulling on you like that sucks
This show is goddamn fantastic. It’s really a shame that the new shows have 25 million per episode compared to DD’s I think 1-2 million, and yet the writing, filmmaking and fight choreography in this show were vastly superior. Talent, competence and effort are written all over it.
I hope they improve him later on in later films because that was just incredibly distasteful to this character. If they do bring him back they better make him similar to the show because people are gonna be pissed if they don't.
i don’t think matt was panting from pain. he was holding himself back to keep his secret. could’ve easily broken out of fisk’s hold but didn’t want to bring any suspicion. brilliant acting from both these legends. hopefully the Disney writers are taking notes here
It might have been a bit of both. I think the point of this scene overall is to demonstrate just how much Matt had underestimated Fisk, both in his sheer strength and his ability to gain power and influence wherever he goes. He seems genuinely surprised that Kingpin got the upper hand and manhandled him like that, but he's also suppressing rage.
This scene was like telling the audience as much as telling Matt Murdock, just you wait. I got chills when I first saw this, like you think some ninjas and a man with a gun are a threat? Pft you forgot about the BOSS.
Each of the seasons are different but still amazing in their own rights, that we are proud to call Daredevil. There is no way Disney can have the same goals for Daredevil, but they NEED to show the character respect and include the violent, twisted edge, it is what makes this character what it is.
Holy shit, this show is on another fucking level. Vincent is an incredible Fisk, he just has that terrifying yet calm and brutal but calculating nature and physicality of the Fisk from the comics. He just suits the role so well.
This scene was a slight wakeup call to both Matt and the audience that Matt is still vulnerable in his normal life, too, and counting on his perceived disability to disarm people will not always work out for him. Fisk would gladly beat the shit out of a blind man just to make a point.
I don’t know why but the “Let’s do this again sometime” is one of the most hilarious things to me. Granted this scene is a tension filled masterpiece, and the scared look on Matthew’s face brings everything back together, but that one line always gets me.
They did our boi Willy Fisk so wrong. The scriptwriter of Hawkeye should watch this scene and try to become better writers. The episode 6 was embarrassment to the Kingpin.
I feel you. But when he was talking to Kazi that was straight daredevil vibes. They made him even stronger. I think they did him justice. What part didn't you like?
@@tsmacks9 Yes bro I liked him in the first part too: when he said "People need to be reminded the city belong to me". But Wilson Fisk is a criminal mastermind, he controls FBI, Cops, Reporters, Lawyers and hell lot of criminal gangs. If it was Daredevil Fisk, he would have sent some expert killer to kill Elanor and Kate Bishop instead of going out himself. He would observe this chaos and misery Elanor brought into her family from the top. But Disney made him a regular big bad guy with no master plan. Why the hell Hawkeye was so afraid of him, he fought with a freaking alien named Thanos who had the power to wipe the universe. It would make sense if this Wilson Fisk was true to his daredevil version where people were afraid of him because of the huge network and the control he has in the criminal underworld. He can kill Hawkeye's son or something like that, that is a real threat. You can rewatch 1st episode of Daredevil Season 1 to refresh how the Kingpin usually threatens. It was right in the beginning, when Wesley(his right hand man) will threaten e person with her daughter.
@@ratnodeepbain7758 bro I literally just binge watched s1-3 last week ahah. Trust me I KNOW kingpin. But yes i hear u and completely understand. Everything until the bishop fight was when things seemed weird but yet i was still fanboying over it. Tonsee him fight and take a bit by car, shot directly with an arrow, rip a car door off was also very neat. But that wasn't the fight for her. It should've been clint. Or maybe the he should've been watchin at a higher point and maybe leaving at a cliffhanger like that. But nevertheless i did still get that vibe from daredevil. They did change the tone whenever he did speak. But yeah i think they missed the point a lil bit. Ik its pg13 but even pg13 movies are less lighthearted than this. Marvel can give off a better tone and hold it there. To much flip flopping for me. But it was the best episode by far. Im just tlad theyre here. Dd and fisk
@@craahwilliams570 Basically, you know how in Daredevil season 3 Kingpin is so smart, cunning and calculating that he had the entire FBI under his control, in the palm of his hands and was ordering them around to do his bidding. In Hawkeye, the same Kingpin was defeated by a discount sidekick of Hawkeye. They absolutely ruined his character.
After watching the finale of Hawkeye, I hope that we get a bit darker when it comes to Fisk. I'll let it slide for now because it's the holiday season. But next time.....we get a good, scary King Pin
Oh look at an optimistic perspective. Fucken finally. The MCU fucks up, yes, but not nearly as much as people think. It’s more than likely that they’re gonna redeem themselves
@@712someone6 yeah, with the Netflix marvel shows now on Disney plus, I'm hoping we get a bit mature shows. Marvel can still be the pg13 they want but if they sprinkle a little Punisher action, or some Daredevil action here and there......I think they will do better.
that was just incredibly distasteful to this character. If they do bring him back they better make him similar to the show because people are gonna be pissed if they don't.
What conflict Daredevil must feel there hes getting manhandled by Fisk and he can't use his actual strength in order to break out of it because he has to keep his cover
"No, I, brought you here, not Nelson"
If that's not a hero and a friend, I don't know what is.
Isn't he trying to protect Nelson?
Yes, that's what I meant ^^
Oh, yes. Sorry, I read it wrong. Still learning english
Plankton66 Relax, I'm learning too :)
When he said I put you in here, not Nelson, I think that might’ve given Fisk another clue that Matt Murdock is Daredevil
MCU can’t handle this Fisk.
aged like fine wine
@@leavanstarr2390 He literally appeared for like one episode and he only had a few minutes of screentime.
Hawkeye show really nerfed Kingpin so much bruh
@@PlaystationGamerZX I mean he lost so much power and his men especially after the snap, all he had was the tracksuit mafia so he had to resort to doing things himself. Maybe in Echo we'd see more of him rebuilding his criminal empire.
I honestly hope they CAN but If they do bring him back they better make him similar to the show because people are gonna be pissed if they don't.
"Yes the son of a boxer." That line got me for some reason?
Why? I've just finished S2
Admiration. That’s one thing Fisk did have he was able to admire resilience
@@sabas7549 ?
@@zoxyy.1x Do you need a translator? Learn how to read.
@@InsidiousSaint91 Ik how to read I just dk wtf he means now stfu you piece of garbage go play in the corner with your 4 year old friends
You are in Hawkeye aren’t you?
"Ask Jeremy Renner, he'll deny it!"
"Ask Hailee Steinfeld, she'll deny it!"
"Ask the cast and crew, they'll cut their tongues out before they talk!"
Don’t give me hope
That was hilarious😂and true
Lmao
kingpin is back...
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
This is easily one of the best scenes in the whole series so far...and also the most disturbing. You can tell how dedicated Vincent D'Onofrio is to his character...but in spite of his temper, Fisk is still that terrified boy who murdered his Dad to protect his Mom.
Moviefan2k4 the scene with him beheading the russian guy with the car door is pretty damn disturbing also
True; thank God we didn't actually see the head, though.
Nah, seeing the head would've made the whole moment seem fake. Prop heads are never convincing.
DarkElfofVulcan yeah depending on the angle they look like rubber masks or doll heads.
I loved how annoyed Wesley looked when Fisk got the russian's blood on him.
also i can't wait to see Karen suffer for killing Wesley
"You both took the laurels, you'll both take the blame!"
Great line.
"😡I'LL CHOP BOTH THE HEADS OFF OF THAT SNAKE!! AND I'LL SPEND MORE THAN $6.00 oN POSTAGE TO BRING YOU DOWN!"
And that's why superheroes wear masks
Agreed
I know he means youre both to blame and when I look up laurels its a plant, can you explain what it means pls
@@THEGODDAMNDINOSAUR it also means:
bestow an award or praise on (someone) in recognition of an achievement.
"she will be laurelled alongside politicians, historians, and other actors"
I like how Wilson smash Matt's Head several times Against the table, Yet His glasses are perfectly intact.
Nicolás Riveros 🤔🤔
You know they make em extra durable for blind people
Or are his just durable?
They are unique after all.
They are made of vibranium
"And I'll spend MORE than $6 on postage, to bring you down!"
lol
@renewer Earlier in the conversation Matt threatened that for just $6 postage he could have Vanessa arrested.
@@stijnkulche5932 what’s so funny
@@zoxyy.1x it sounds like a Geico commerical. I'll save 50% more on car insurance
"You see, I've had alot of time to reflect on my journey here, MR MURDOCK!"
Fisk: KEEP MY WIFE'S NAME OUT YOUR FUCKING MOUTH!
Will Sonmith Fisk here
Matt's issue is that he underestimates both Fisk's power AND compassion. He thinks Wilson sees Vanessa as a prized object and not someone he'd die for. Mentioning her name so casually, he clearly didn't realize how much she truly means to Fisk. In a way this beating is a wake up call that Murdock needs to up his game and realize that Fisk is his equal and not some petty lowlife thug.
I agree with Antichrist. You're missing the point. Matt wanted to rile up Fisk. He was prepared to take that beating to get information.
John Curcio I agree with the other guys that have posted on your comment and also he let Fisk beat him up, if he fought back he would reveal that he is Dare Devil.
Michael Mallory Only Fisk DID realize that Murdock was Daredevil. In the scene at the end of this episode he touches his hurt lip and asks to re-examine Matt's files. Even that one little punch gave him away, and it gave him away because Matt wasn't expecting that beating coming, otherwise he wouldn't have hit Fisk at all. Matt may have gotten some information off Fisk, but Fisk got way more in return.
Maniac742 nah man, he doesn’t find out until season 3. Stop reaching and he touching his lip and asking bout his file cause that punch low key rocked his world. It ain’t till season three that he really figure shit out.
TaeKash Nope. He figured out right here
Why is this show so much better than the other Marvel shows; it's so god damn good.
Because this is their best story by far. Dark, gritty and with solid characters all over the place. Just needed to get the casting right, which they did in spades. The only slight negative I can find about it is that Frank Castle should be a bit taller, which means we're now nitpicking for the gold medal at the nitpicking Olympics. Everything else is spot on, and the script is great as well. Just a superb job all round.
and wait, if they are really adapting Born Again in season 3, I promise you it gets even better
fucking true.
Sister says punisher is even better, how does it compare? Haven't seen that one yet
@@MrGamelover23 That is a hard call. The Punisher was great. However, Daredevil is too. Also, the Punisher is in season 2 of Daredevil so I think that gives the edge to Daredevil right now. The bottom line is.... watch both of them.
This was the Wilson Fisk I wanted to see in Hawkeye
Yes the ruthless sinister tactician. Not discount Hawaiian shirt kingpin
Did you really think they were going to use the gory version of him ?? It’s mcu and plus it was no need to be all gory in the show anyways
@@Mike16793 true I agree. But where was the rage? You can still show the rage without all the blood.
@@bingbingchavez he didn’t have enough reason to rage out. He clearly didn’t want to just kill Kate bishop. We should be thankful that we even got him on screen in the mcu at all again. I’m sure we’re going to see more of him in the future anyways so you still have hope
@@Mike16793 thankful that we got him in the MCU? are you kidding? everyone and their mother is a part of the mcu at this point it's not too much to ask to respect their characters
“If you’re worried that Frank Castle will wreak havoc on Hell’s Kitchen… just wait…” My favourite line he’s ever said
D'Onofrio is a master! This is one of the best portrayals of a bad guy since Ledger's Joker. D'Onofrio should win an Oscar or Emmy or whatever the hell awards streaming TV gets.
They get a nice pat on the back
I think they still get Emmys.
@@MrGamelover23 they do
There are awards called The Streamies for shows like this.
…….. Homelander has entered the chat
I love how Fisk's monolouge gradually evolves from one of anger to one of passion as he speaks about Vanessa. It really demonstrates how his convictions are just as powerful as he is.
I loved how Matt holds himself to protect his secret idendity
It didn't work. Fisk realized Murdock is Daredevil at the end of this episode.
@@Maniac742 Nah that happened around Episode 4 of Season 3.
He would do a much better job at that if the glasses were of a diffrent colour. Why would a blind man wear red glasses? And why would DD have a mask that cover his eyes? Maybe because they are one person trying so hard for everyone to make the link apparently.
@@SamUnderStars no no, he's kind over right. He touched his lip at the end of the episode and it reminded him of a busted lip he got from Daredevil. He decided to check all of his case files to see if there is any correlation between Matt and Daredevil, maybe even the possibility of them being the same person. He didn't confirm it until season 3, it was mostly just speculation
That's an interesting way to look at it. I see it as him still recovering from the initial shock of the first hits the entire time. Fisk was in full control.
Man, this scene is terrifying. Matt clearly was holding back though. He could've easily break out from the grapple, but he didn't want to show Fisk who he really is. But he instinctively threw an uppercut which made Fisk suspicious later.
It definitely didn't look like that.
I don't think he was holding back. Kingpin is strong and he was already slammed head first into the table like three times. I mean he literally almost fell over when he stood up.
... No, he actually wasn't. That's the thing, Kingpin is a fucking beast. In the comics, he once punched out Spiderman wholesale. Daredevil is more agile, but in straight up strength Kingpin is probably the single strongest purely human character in the entire MCU
@@archsteel7 no its Eddie Brock in the comics he can strict press 317 kg while Fisk can only do 295 kg
@@Enzo-em1te
m.imgur.com/dgG1GaX
This would be at least 500kg(over 1000 lbs) and he did it like it was pathetic.
Okay, this guy really does this character justice. He is so good I wouldn't be surprised if they made him a main antagonist in the next spider man film. Kingpin not only has a bone to pick with Daredevil, Spider Man also has a tendency of fucking up his shit as well. So imagine this scene, except it's Spider Man tied to a chair with his mask off. I mean think about that, like it would make his threats all the more scarier because they now have a more younger spider man.
I don't think the worlds of the Marvel shows & movies are ever gonna merge like that. It would make the whole universe too confusing. Spiderman has plenty of his own villains that are really cool. I haven't read the Spidey comics but at least based on the 90s cartoons, he seems to be way in over his head when it comes to the Kingpin and understanding his schemes. At least Daredevil kind of knows/understands Fisk.
the 90's cartoom was heavily influenced by Fisk.
please no, thye would make him pg 13 and ruin him
I wouldn't mind that tbh but it really won't look believable having Fisk against Spidey in the mcu since Fisk isn't huge like in the comics. And besides I feel like Marvel will never take advantage of the whole "same universe" concept. I feel like they confirmed it solely for publicity
I think one of the problems with that is the relative power of characters in the MCU, MCU Fisk is much weaker and far more realistic than the comics version, whereas MCU Spider-Man is the same strength level as in the comics (roughly), and other's like Cap are way stronger. Would be no fun to see Fisk taken out instantly (even with Spidey holding back), would be the same with Dex or Matt, if someone like Spidey or even Cap entered the season 3 ending fight they would wipe the floor with the other 3 guys.
Give me one memorable line from Diamondback, Kilgrave, or even Bakuto.
Aint none of them villains can top Wilson motherfucking Fisk.
Cottonmouth's monologue about becoming king was pretty good, Kilgrave lines were more witty than iconic but he's still an awesome villain
Renagade2332 "I once told a man to go Fuck himself. Can you even imagine? - Kilgrave
"CUT YOUR HEART OUT, DAD!" - Kilgrave.
"How am I supposed to know? Huh? I never know if someone is doing what they want, or what I tell them to." - Kilgrave.
"YOU CAN COLLECT YOUR MONEY FROM TONE DOWNSTAIRS, MR.BARRETT." - Cottonmouth.
"And I looked..and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat upon him was Death." - Diamondback.
"Oh I don't go past..I go through." -Diamondback.
There's some good memorable lines.
Killgrave is a waste. Guy has the power to make anyone do what he says and he just squanders it dicking around in Hells Kitchen and manipulating a street level hero like Jessica Jones. What the hell would stop him from waltzing right into the White House and bossing everyone around and manipulating the President to influence the way the world is run?
well, to be fair, there is an unexplained weakness to his power. the show didn't confirm it, but jessica clearly was resistant to the virus in the end. maybe he knew that and didn't want to risk it, dunno.
"But I have something to say, TO YOU."
Something about the way that line is delivered...is perfect.
The whole scene is perfectly delivered.
MISTER MURDOCK! 1:13
D'Onofrio's performance is just brilliant.
The writing throughout this entire series in phenomenal.
Never realized Matt was listening to Fisk's heartbeat at the end, and that's what we're hearing. It's strong and steady.
I can say this scene is on par with The Dark Knight interrogation scene, the're both intense af
Both have head smashing on table lol
@@bullymaguire_005 this one had 3 head smashes though so it's definitely better
I’d say this is more intense
Uh bro are you good or are you good, this is no where near the dark knight interrogation scene dude
@@kylemorales6250 lmao I thought the same thing. Dark Knight is on a whole other level.
Anything Vincent is in, is a masterclass lesson in acting.
Very underrated actor. At least before about 2017.
And, this is why we need Fisk in the MCU. Especially if Vincent is playing him. His acting is incredible.
He HAS to be the one playing him
Rumors around is that Feige is bringing both Cox and D’Onofrio back as soft-rebooted characters in the MCU
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@@dreadgiraffe2109 I find it quite profound
I like this because this scene shows Murdock's true character. Everything's going smoothly, little too smoothly, so Murdock as the Daredevil he is, wants to visit fisk to remind him he's in control not him just power checking him. He didn't really have to go see him at this time kingpin really wasn't gaining that much traction, Murdock went there specifically to say fuck you. I wish they gave him fractured glasses for this scene would of made it more submersive
Like a submarine.
@@calebjanus2000 ba don tiss
Matt was there to try to find out about Frank Castle's escape. I didn't remember it either, but I'm watching it again, and that's what it was. Things aren't really smooth for him either, his relationships with Foggy and Karen are going pretty badly, and he just sent Elektra away because he can't handle her bloodthirst. There was a lot about this season I didn't remember.
@@GreatSpaceToaster Matt already knew he was controlling that prison, he just wanted to confirm it and also say f you to him
immersive unless we're going diving
Best scene in all of Daredevil and maybe the entire Netflix MCU.
Not really, I mean if a blind lawyer suddenly broke free of you're grasp using kung fu moves to take Fisk down like in the first season, it might raise suspicions that maybe matt is more than he seems. I doubt matt would want to blow his cover out of pride.
It's between this and the rooftop scene between Daredevil and The Punisher. This show is on another level within the superhero genre, it's Marvel's Dark Knight Trilogy.
Dude it's an excellent scene but their last confrontation in S3 is THE BEST for me.
add the ENTIRE disney+ mcu series
@@FULANODETAL
So far I liked Falcon and the winter soldier, the other shows were either mid tier or simply dog manure
The way he delivered his Shakespearean dialogue was fantastic. He went from Gomer Pyle to Egger to one of the most perfectly cast perfectly portrayed villains in the history of cinema.
the anger and rage in vincent’s voice when he says “mr murdock” we didn’t deserve this show
Agreed, especially the part where he says, "I'll chop both the heads off of that snake! And I'll send more than six dollars on postage to bring you down!"
i love the way he switches seamlessly from unhinged rage to the immense emotion he feels when talking about Vanessa. you can feel it
Charlie Cox's Daredevil is honestly my absolute favorite character in the entire MCU and the reason why Daredevil is my favorite Marvel character. The amount of the realism and humanity that is brought in this character, as well as the dedication, it's remarkable.
Let's do this again sometime....
What about it
The latest rumors indicate it may happen soon...
@@boristheblade9496 nah it’s confirmed
@@zoxyy.1x Not officially it's not. While the reports are very credible, they are not 100% confirmed.
@@boristheblade9496 true
This scene made a huge promise that Season 3 had to live up to and thankfully Season 3 did that and even more!
An actual scary Marvel villain
Alongside Green Goblin
Once Matt punches kingpin he touches his lip remembering the feeling of the exact same punch and finally realizing Matt is daredevil. Which will lead to a badass season 3
WizardPancakes I rewatching scene but don't see it
WizardPancakes oh.. it's another scene
Nah he didn’t realize it yet. The punch just made him realize that there might be more to Matt than he realizes. He took a few shots from the Punisher and he didn’t bleed, but this blind lawyer can tag him once in the perfect spot and make him bleed? That’s worth looking into.
Nah, he'll put the pieces together after Matt disappears the same time Daredevil dies. He'll definitely look back on this moment tho.
That's not why he touched his lip. He was drinking wine and when the alcohol touched the cut on his lip it stung. As soon as it hurts he looks at the glass he was drinking from.
I love how Matt played the part of being a weak blind man, but in one second, his punch tipped Wilson to his hand. The final scene, while Wilson eats his steak, I’m pretty sure he’s thinking “how can a blind man punch me with force and precision?”
It’s amazing that in the season where the primary villains are a traumatized war vet with a sadistic streak and an immortal ninja death cult that syphons blood from children and brainwashed them, it’s the mob boss that’s still the scariest villain in Hell’s Kitchen
Frank was pretty scary too at times, this is the guy that used a corpse as a fakeout for the people that were looking for him and that stabbed himself with razor blades to keep them and use them later to escape
1:18 him grabbing his chest and the improv Vincent does shaking it off him is so great
It's been 6 years and that uppercut still gets me everytime 🤣🤣🤣
What makes his actions so terrifying is how steady his heartbeat was after his attack on Matt
These two have the best hero-villain chemistry in the MCU.
same with peter and goblin
@@zoxyy.1x Agreed!
Outside control of Kevin Fiege and Disney
“Never start with the head! The victim gets all…fuzzy.”
my memory isn't great, but in the comics, i remember fisk was a HUGE guy.. like one of his fists would be much bigger than daredevil's head. and he was strong enough that stuff would just bounce off him like he was made of steel. but donofrio's version is just as if not more scary. this show really lets you understand his character deeply. you see how crazy smart and sophisticated he is as well as physically dangerous. most of all you see the raging anger that's just below the surface.. but you understand and can even sympathize with why he does what he does. they take the whole mob boss archetype and make it a lot more compelling. he and the writers really did a wonderful job with the character
Do you know how Fisk gets so big? He seems to have super human strength. I get that he's a big guy but he looks fat, yet can somehow take more hits than a UFC heavyweight fighter...& hit like one too! The show doesn't really explain how he gets THIS freaking strong.
yeah in the comic he was huge and tough and fast almost like the grey hulk.. i mean i don't THINK he was bullet-proof.. and he was known for being cunning more than anything so he would pick his battles and fight dirty if need be. but yeah i don't even remember any explanation given in the comics. honestly my guess would be that he was just a really really unusually tough guy. and probably would wear body-armored suits.
Yeah, in the Silver Age comics, Fisk was inexplicably huge and strong. He was regularly depicted as more physically powerful than Spider-Man. I'm guessing it was mainly because it was a cool and dramatic visual to have this giant mastermind looming over Spidey. Becoming a Daredevil villain was a great move for the character, since you get to keep that imagery, have it make more sense in contrast to his opponent's powers, and you get the lawyer vs. criminal dynamic.
It’s not about being big that gives strength
I been fulled by vengeance and rage.
He bounced his head on that table like a basketball 😂😂
1 of the reasons why Dare Devil is best!
I can't wait for season three Of DarDevil
Evan Bergen wait till 10/19
It’s here
Yo, Season 3 yo, I just came from the Future bro, omg I aint telling you shit!
Didn't disappoint huh 😁
I'm in the minority, but I found it dissapointing. Daredevil spends too much time whining and moaning in a church basement instead of getting things done, and Kingpin mopes in a prison, becomes 'Kingpin' in like the 11th episode and goes back to prison a few episodes later, never to be seen again? What ever happened to Fisk exposing Daredevil's identity that the show hinted to a million times? Even season 3 hints that it's going to happen, but than it never does. All we get is a nebulous threat in the last fight (which was awful by the way and looked like a WWE match shot with the camera from CSI Miami) Fisk goes back to his old season 1 plan of just using the media to make people hate him...again? And why does everything feel so recycled? I swear Eric Olson must've lifted over half of the plot beats and scenes from season 1. That Karen Page episode was awful too.
Yeah...not really getting the love for season 3.
The way i need to rewatch daredevil clips just to forget whatever trainwreck in hawkeye
Why did they have to ruin something that was this great
@@arnob1711 NO Idea but that was just incredibly distasteful to this character. If they do bring him back they better make him similar to the show because people are gonna be pissed if they don't.
"Yes the son of a boxer", that's when Fisk knew who Matt really was.
LOL No, not that moment. He found out later on.
*Gets punched*
"Yes, the devil of Hell's Kitchen"
@@H.K.5 He couldn't tell who he was JUST yet right there at all.
Weird they never actually had Kingpin expose Daredevil's identity. It was foreshadowed so much in S2 and S3 but it never happened.
SPOILERS:
No, it was actually from that punch and the wound he got from that on his lips is where he ran a background check, and then took his sweet time in season 3 trying to confirm if his suspicions were true via background checking again and watching the prison fights
Vincent is perfect as kingpin and the fact that in the comics fisk is taller and strong then daredevil shows here.
Definitely. Look how huge his hands look when he grab Matt! Dude is a fucking beast!
I used to think that kingpin was a stupid villain, like what's so scary about a mob boss when thanos is out there. It wasn't until I saw this scene and the one where he smashes a dudes head in a car door for disrupting his dinner with vanessa that I actually grasped just how menacing he can be. Also Vincent is a phenomenal actor
LOL when did you EVER think that Kingpin would have EVER been a "stupid villain"? He never was? Did not read any comics or animated shows where he was in because he was fantastic in all of them!
He proved himself in the s3 ep4. He is so scary and threatining.
Dude, Kingpin is basically a street-level Thanos.
Season 2 is definitely weaker than 1 and 3, but this one is by far one of the best and most intense scenes I the entire show. Superv acting.
Fisk returning in the 2nd half saved the season. IMO the Punisher and Elektra storylines would’ve been better in separate seasons. I didn’t think they really meshed together
Shows like this are only as good as the villain. That’s probably why the Netflix shows didn’t last. The lead up to The Defenders was great but The Hand we’re just bland villains who’s storyline just wasn’t that great
@@TheSnake1123 the shows only were canceled because, Netflix’s rights to the IP’s expired. It had nothing to do with the shows. Most of them would have had several more seasons
Most fans seem to dislike season 2, but I thought it was great. What I find funny is, Wilson Fisk should be glad he was in jail at this time. Electra or Stick may have easily killed him if he weren’t. Not because of his criminal enterprise, but because they’d view him as one of Matt’s “distractions”.
@U the first seasons of Daredevil and Jessica Jones set the bar really high for the shows that followed. Luke Cage was good but Iron Fist was a dud from the start. I guessed it timed out perfectly with Infinity War and The Snap
If Vincent didnt sell you as kingpin after this scene, nothing will.
Watching echo and then coming back to this. Goddamn :( the good old days
This is my king pin. Not the Hawkeye version
Hawkeye kingpin was a joke
@@teo-pc8yx was he really?
@@tsmacks9 yes
@@teo-pc8yx i mean the intimidation was there. The coercion was there. The rhetoric and the way he delivers is there. I think the office where he was talking to mya at threw him off. And the tracksuits being a joke of a mob threw him off. But I think fisk himself did justice. Also it was nice seeing him fight. But that shouldve been left for clint. I didn't like Seein him fight kate. Shes not even all that good at fighting.
@@tsmacks9 I didn't mind his "fight" against Kate at all since it was clear he wasn't taking her seriously or even trying to kill her. He was basically continuously swatting her away like a fly.
Matt forgot that he was Daredevil for a second, there was one moment where he actually looked like a terrified blind man
nah, he just had to protect his identity, you wouldn't expect a blind man to not be scared when getting held and yelled at by a big guy, not to mention getting slammed on the table.
Every time these two are in the same room, this show goes from 1000/10 to 1100/10.
"$6 dollars on postage" line was top tier script writing
Vincent D'Onofrio did an amazing job in these scene IMO. Probably the best scene in the whole series so far.
Vincent Denafrio kills it as Wilson Fisk. What a truly memorable villain.
What a f*cking scene and what great actors. You can argue Fisk talks in a hammy manner but it somehow doesn't comes off hammy, sounds legit, like this mad man actually talks like this
Hawkeye’s Fisk is a shame….
They buff his physique but his mental is weak
Hes more comic accurate.
shut up
2:08 when you high af trynna act normal in front of ur parents
Gotta give it to Murdock at least he tried to fight back "Lets do this again sometime" Oh i am sure they will
He couldn’t try to hard tho, he would give himself away. Not much you can do with that giant gorilla of a man yanking on your suit like that. Matt’s back musta been tired as fuck after that lol. Big dude pulling on you like that sucks
Denny Kaleal You would know jk
@@crazytrain111 lmao
This show is goddamn fantastic.
It’s really a shame that the new shows have 25 million per episode compared to DD’s I think 1-2 million, and yet the writing, filmmaking and fight choreography in this show were vastly superior.
Talent, competence and effort are written all over it.
I need to see this to forget the last Hawkeye episode...
So happy to see him back as Fisk, a great example of perfect casting in a role.
MCU did him so dirty!
How?
@@bullymaguire_005 he went from 900 to 1 in the finale
@@bullymaguire_005 Disney version is campy it's Adam West batman.
I hope they improve him later on in later films because that was just incredibly distasteful to this character. If they do bring him back they better make him similar to the show because people are gonna be pissed if they don't.
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i don’t think matt was panting from pain. he was holding himself back to keep his secret. could’ve easily broken out of fisk’s hold but didn’t want to bring any suspicion. brilliant acting from both these legends. hopefully the Disney writers are taking notes here
It might have been a bit of both. I think the point of this scene overall is to demonstrate just how much Matt had underestimated Fisk, both in his sheer strength and his ability to gain power and influence wherever he goes. He seems genuinely surprised that Kingpin got the upper hand and manhandled him like that, but he's also suppressing rage.
This scene was like telling the audience as much as telling Matt Murdock, just you wait. I got chills when I first saw this, like you think some ninjas and a man with a gun are a threat? Pft you forgot about the BOSS.
Idk why. The part where he talks about “the city that birthed me” kinda makes me feel inspired and empowered
Incredible writing. Dare I say shakespearian
I think he says "burns me"
@@Blucity07 No he's correct he says birthed me
Each of the seasons are different but still amazing in their own rights, that we are proud to call Daredevil. There is no way Disney can have the same goals for Daredevil, but they NEED to show the character respect and include the violent, twisted edge, it is what makes this character what it is.
Don't blame the MCU, blame the writers.
Just seeing this scene someone might think Matt is breathing heavily out of fear, but it’s actually unyielding rage
Holy shit, this show is on another fucking level. Vincent is an incredible Fisk, he just has that terrifying yet calm and brutal but calculating nature and physicality of the Fisk from the comics. He just suits the role so well.
This scene was a slight wakeup call to both Matt and the audience that Matt is still vulnerable in his normal life, too, and counting on his perceived disability to disarm people will not always work out for him. Fisk would gladly beat the shit out of a blind man just to make a point.
Kingpin is a genuinely terrifying villain.
*Was
Hawkeye took the intimidation away
I don’t know why but the “Let’s do this again sometime” is one of the most hilarious things to me. Granted this scene is a tension filled masterpiece, and the scared look on Matthew’s face brings everything back together, but that one line always gets me.
They did our boi Willy Fisk so wrong. The scriptwriter of Hawkeye should watch this scene and try to become better writers. The episode 6 was embarrassment to the Kingpin.
I feel you. But when he was talking to Kazi that was straight daredevil vibes. They made him even stronger. I think they did him justice. What part didn't you like?
@@tsmacks9 Yes bro I liked him in the first part too: when he said "People need to be reminded the city belong to me". But Wilson Fisk is a criminal mastermind, he controls FBI, Cops, Reporters, Lawyers and hell lot of criminal gangs. If it was Daredevil Fisk, he would have sent some expert killer to kill Elanor and Kate Bishop instead of going out himself. He would observe this chaos and misery Elanor brought into her family from the top. But Disney made him a regular big bad guy with no master plan. Why the hell Hawkeye was so afraid of him, he fought with a freaking alien named Thanos who had the power to wipe the universe. It would make sense if this Wilson Fisk was true to his daredevil version where people were afraid of him because of the huge network and the control he has in the criminal underworld. He can kill Hawkeye's son or something like that, that is a real threat. You can rewatch 1st episode of Daredevil Season 1 to refresh how the Kingpin usually threatens. It was right in the beginning, when Wesley(his right hand man) will threaten e person with her daughter.
@@ratnodeepbain7758 bro I literally just binge watched s1-3 last week ahah. Trust me I KNOW kingpin. But yes i hear u and completely understand. Everything until the bishop fight was when things seemed weird but yet i was still fanboying over it. Tonsee him fight and take a bit by car, shot directly with an arrow, rip a car door off was also very neat. But that wasn't the fight for her. It should've been clint. Or maybe the he should've been watchin at a higher point and maybe leaving at a cliffhanger like that. But nevertheless i did still get that vibe from daredevil. They did change the tone whenever he did speak. But yeah i think they missed the point a lil bit. Ik its pg13 but even pg13 movies are less lighthearted than this. Marvel can give off a better tone and hold it there. To much flip flopping for me. But it was the best episode by far. Im just tlad theyre here. Dd and fisk
Oh man... His mental aggression and rage gone from 10 to 0 with Hawkeye's finale
@@arnob1711 but u gotta admit. When he was talking to kazi was perfection
This show was so unbelievably excellent.
You don't know how fast my jaw dropped when I first watched this
My favorite Daredevil scene. Hands Down.
And people think Disney will do this show justice. RIP Daredevil
Yeahhhh I’m not convinced at all .. it definitely won’t be this intense.
Remember when people argued that they'd do Star Wars justice. Some people learn everything the hard way.
yeah, a disney woke pg-13 show can't
@@reginaphalange9417 Strong confident men are a no no nowdays lol. And the ones left are getting phased out
The guy who plays punisher said he won’t do it if Disney soften it up so since it’s confined he’s coming back there’s hope
God I miss this show.
I like how he bangs the shit out of murdock and at the end says " lets do this again sometime"
*I'LL CUT BOTH THE HEADS OFF THAT SNAKE!*
"I'll bring you some zuppa cake!"
*ALL IS FORGIVEN!*
love that line.
bro said foggys whole government name😭😭
Matt threw one punch and he inadvertently gave Kingpin the biggest clue to who Daredevil was.
"Born Again" Forshadowing Can't Wait for season 3! My Heart is bursting out!
I loved how Fisk's heartbeat was calm at the beginning and after-shows how control he's in
Ok ok, this is about to blow up again.
He’s back. Here we go!
who's here when D'Onofrio is back as Kingpin in MCU?
I'm here after both are officially back in the MCU.
@@anupamtiwari5587 and both were done incredibly dirty by the mcu, all part of the brand
@@shealupkes how so I haven't watched Hawkeye yet
@@craahwilliams570 Basically, you know how in Daredevil season 3 Kingpin is so smart, cunning and calculating that he had the entire FBI under his control, in the palm of his hands and was ordering them around to do his bidding.
In Hawkeye, the same Kingpin was defeated by a discount sidekick of Hawkeye. They absolutely ruined his character.
@@HUMAN-fq5ff keep I'm all caught up with the show I'm disgusted with what they did his character
Even if he's in prison, Wilson Fisk still has power!
Every single freaking scene these 2 were in was masterful. Damn it, I'm thinking about re-watching all of Daredevil for the 4th time. XD
Matt: GI Jane two can't wait to see it.
After watching the finale of Hawkeye, I hope that we get a bit darker when it comes to Fisk. I'll let it slide for now because it's the holiday season. But next time.....we get a good, scary King Pin
It will never happen with Disney.
Oh look at an optimistic perspective. Fucken finally. The MCU fucks up, yes, but not nearly as much as people think. It’s more than likely that they’re gonna redeem themselves
@@712someone6 yeah, with the Netflix marvel shows now on Disney plus, I'm hoping we get a bit mature shows. Marvel can still be the pg13 they want but if they sprinkle a little Punisher action, or some Daredevil action here and there......I think they will do better.
that was just incredibly distasteful to this character. If they do bring him back they better make him similar to the show because people are gonna be pissed if they don't.
This is the kingpin that needs to be in the movies
What conflict Daredevil must feel there hes getting manhandled by Fisk and he can't use his actual strength in order to break out of it because he has to keep his cover
The dialogue, acting, and music. Ahhhhhh ❤
I love the part where Matt puts his hand on kingpin's face. It's funny to me.