We had a chance at competition but Steve and the rest of them rejected it. So it's clear they don't care about the prices since they get the products for free.
@@jodieholmes8453 Is it really that? I think they are afraid to mention price because someone might complain that what they bought their card for was not the same as mentioned on the show. I guess if you talk about suggested MSP instead of actual price it might be OK because you can say this is the recommended price by NVIDIA at the time.
@@jodieholmes8453 "We had a chance at competition but Steve and the rest of them rejected it." Who did what and when? If you're talking about Intel, yeah, they are nice and all compared to the 4060. But they currently have no products on mid and enthusiast gaming level.
@@jodieholmes8453what are you talking about? They all talk about prices they just do it in their own way.. gamers nexus and hardware unboxed both talk about cost per frame and what is worth it
I honestly think a virtual desktop/screen would be better, but maybe that's because it's what I'm used to. Regardless, either a TV or virtual TV is better than cutting out to a full screen that periodically disconnects you from the person talking.
I think the reason behind Super cards is to clear out their overstock before they release the next generation. It looks like this time they Binned the GPUs that had extra stable cores and released them as Supers. The card is the same just the GPU is a little better.
@@RaykingMasterYou won’t be disappointed I’ve been rocking my 7900xtx since release and it’s been flawless runs 4k very well coming from a 2080ti > 6950xt > 7900xtx
Gotta say, I switched from my old 2080 TI to a 7900 XT a little over a month ago, not regretting it at all. Especially after knowing I didn't miss out on these "super" cards
I recently upgraded from a 1080ti to a 7900xtx. After hearing about the supers coming out I was a bit worried I’d regret my purchase, too. But man these super cards just seem so disappointing according to the benchmarks
I have a 6800xt , so far I haven’t seen anything that’s saying I need a new card , however I’m kinda forced to buy a new card cause my wife’s 3070 is horrible
Considering AMD is rumored to be skipping the high end in the next gen (apparently their highest GPU in the next gen will be equal to a 4080), it's only going to be worse.
Got the 7900XTX for $800 last year. I occasionally get FOMO'd and tempted to switch back to Team Green, but this video validates that there really is nothing to look forward to on the green side and how much of a great value the 7900XTX really is.
@@MrDutch1e for the europs the cards still have €100/200 difference between 4080 super and 7900xtx. So you're looking at €950 - 1050 for the XTX vs €1120 - 1200 for the super
@@MrDutch1eordered an FE for MSRP. Literally refreshed bestbuys page on and off on several days. While I hate Nvidia as a company, I think the 4080 super is a better product for the price. But if you want easy availability, go with team red
I have my 3060ti and I'm still happy with it. Running a 1440p 144htz monitor and everything feels smooth. While I'm sure my newer games aren't hitting the max fps, they're still fun to play and I don't notice any issues. Feels like the marketed FOMO is getting really out of hand.
dont worry, i have a 4080 and a 13600k and iam suprised how many titles just barely reach above 60fps on ultra setting without using dlss and sort. i was expecting the same jump i had when going from from gtx 670 to the gtx 1080, where i went from 40fps on medium to 110 on ultra
@@Zero-SkillzIt takes a dedicated team of engineers to design a card that is different, yet almost completely identical in performance to its predecessor. Also a dedicated marketing team to try and present it as something better. (I agree with you, I just find this whole launch laughable)
Problem is, talking heads on UA-cam will pick up on what the general theme is, and regurgitate what the comment section is saying to farm more engagement. The product that get hate and love are the same time, usually all revolve around one competition with two philosophies Make the best product, and charge the earth for it And Make almost the same product, and charge almost the same for it. It then turns into this, battle where people waste a lot of energy and emotion hating on things mainly because they can’t afford them, or loving them with all their hearts because they saved for them for example. My $599 was not wasted, I have a good card, that will last for a while for what I need it to do and that’s all I care about. I don’t begrudge someone who went with more performance for the same money but I will have no sympathy if they ran into problems at some point (as is well reported with driver issues and speed of deployment) as they have no sympathy with me for having a lower performing card at the same cost. You’re being farmed, you always have been and always will be. Easier to go through life without being mad at businesses whose mission is to make the most out of you, as you would in their position. If you wouldn’t, you’ll never be in that position and always be 3 generations behind. If that makes you happy, stop complaining in comment sections about prices, your attitude is why you don’t have a new card
@@braderley I'm not being farmed. I haven't bought a card, new in box, in over a decade. The last card I bought was a used 3070 for like 400 bucks that needed repairs. If anything, the Super launch bringing down the prices of the 40 series as a whole is a good thing. Undoubtedly, it was an accounting decision because sane people avoided the 40 series at MSRP and they weren't selling.
With all the prices being online now in my country (Netherlands) I am baffled to notice that pretty much all 4080 models are more expensive (by sometimes 300 euros) than the 4080 Supers that just dropped.
I had to work on the 4080S launch day and just could not take the time off to try and get this card myself. So, I sent my mother-in-law on a mission to get one for me at our local Microcenter lol. She doesn't even know how to turn on my computer, that's how computer illiterate she is, but I had no one else to depend on! I gave her a crash course on GPU manufacturers, that the 4080S could be sold under several different brands, and to try her best to land me either the FE, or the Zotac Gaming Trinity Black Edition, which both retailed for the $999, but if those were gone/sold out, ANY other 4080S would suffice. I was working on a new build and had everything except the GPU because I was waiting for the 4080S release, so I was running on the iGPU in the meantime. I gave her additional instructions that if for whatever reason she couldn't find any 4080S, to grab the Sapphire 7900XTX Nitro+ that was in stock there. And if for some CRAZY reason, both the 4080S and the 7900XTX's were all sold out, there was a 4090 sitting in the cabinet for the last couple days, she could bring that baby home lol. I secretly wished for the 4080S and 7900XTX to be all sold out, but she came home with the Zotac Gaming 4080S. She did say that the sales rep who helped her had tried to talk her into buying a different 4080S that was $1299, but since the $999 Zotac was available, she declined. He even tried to get her to call me and ask, but she snapped back and said, "I think I can decide for myself which one to get for him!" lol.
I’ve only started watching PC channels in the last year or so after semi building a computer for my wife. I’ve found that it is very challenging to determine what to get as a consumer for many parts because there are so many options and figuring out what the differences are can be confusing. I appreciate this channel and GN for keeping everything pretty straightforward.
And then by the time youre done doing all that research new components have released and you can either pull the trigger and deal with the fomo or do another round of research 🫠
I went with the strix 4070ti super, coming from the strix 2080. It breathed new life into my RT titles with double the fps, while keeping everything in ultra at 3440x1440, and despite running a 9900k build, my gpu has been holding a capable 3100mhz and that’s awesome. I’m honestly glad I waited
@@kevod579 so far everything seems fine. Cpu Temps while gaming are 10c over idle and far under any type of heavy load temps. I haven’t watched it’s workload activity yet though against the gpu activity. But the gpu activity looks healthy and I haven’t seen stuttering in benchmarks or gaming
@@kevod5799900K is still a monster CPU and wouldn’t bottleneck a 4070 Ti. My brother has a 9700K with his 4070 Ti and it runs great at 1440p ultrawide.
Got u Jay. U go back 6 to 8 months ago I didn't know anything. Didn't even know what a cpu, gpu or ram was lol. But now of doing Research watching videos asking questions talking to people And watching your videos is what I can across 1st and watched a lot and u explain and show everything really well. Good job and thank you for everything. Now I know enough to build it...right and help others.
$1000 before tax still expensive. It is better than $1200 before tax. Not a lot but that $200 for my monthly car gas fee instead. I’m coming from 1080ti. It’s showing its age. But still keeping it as backup.
2% better....Duh we can all see that just from the specs. I wish channels would compare 4070 TI Super vs 4080 Super instead of the 4080 which won't be around in 2 weeks. Is $200 worth the jump from 4070 TI Super vs 4080 Super? Thats the only thing that matters right now.
Just makes you realize how right EVGA was to pack it in because these prices are way too high. The first company to move to 1440p as their standard is gonna be the king. Why would you play any game 1080p with RT on? That would be like buying a $250,000 Ferrari to put Faux Leather interior in it.
@@groenevinger3893 here in Germany the cheapest 4080super is 1150€ including tax while the cheapest 7900xt is 780€ including tax so yeah.... Also 16gb vs. 24gb
As of checking a few days ago, the price of the XTX has come down and is now around $899 MSRP, so unless you have a hard-on for RT, the 40 series seems even less compelling. I am currently in the process of buying my new build and the GPU is likely the part I will buy last. Currently im running a 2070 Super and im debating on whether or not I should wait to see what the next gen offers before pulling the trigger.
I just upgraded like 3 weeks ago to a RTX 4080 Palit Jetstream for the equivalent of $900. In my country, the cheapest RTX 4080 Super is the Gigabyte Windforce, which sells for the equivalent of $1265. The most expensive is the Asus Strix RTX 4080 Super, which sells for the equivalent of $1750. Pretty happy with the deal I got. No Founders Edition sold in my country.
@@user-tj4ee6si7x People like me, actually wait for a decent deal. Upon release, the cheapest RTX 4080, was like $1450. The same Palit Jetstream. People like me, also work for a living and a modern GPU, is part of the PC, that produces the vast part of my income. Times have changed, prices have gone high. Nvidia couldn’t care less about people like me, when the vast majority of their income, comes from the business sector. You either adapt or you sink. And then you start complaining that you can’t upgrade, because no money.
I’m happy with my 4090. It’s way over kill for my needs but I only upgrade every 6 years. So I don’t really upgrade my pc like an iPhone. To me it was overpriced but way better than my 1080 ti. Max sittings on everything with 132 average fps 1440p on an ultra wide 240 hz monitor. 64gs 6800 Corsair titanium ram asus z790 mb, 6 tb m.2, 1200 watt Thor asus psu running windows 11. Using g & v sync and dlss upscaling to 4k. It kicks ass. I game and create short story animations as a hobby with adobe
The 4090 is an entirely different class to the 4080 Super. E: Colorful make some nice cards. "The 4080 Super is intended to get close enough to the 4090 to be worth considering," - guru3d source 3. That was ambitious. The price difference means it's worth considering, but performance wise they are in entirely different classes. E2: Ultrawide would be nice to see on the charts, but that's more work for you guys.
If they would have given the 4080 Super 20GB memory and the performance was ~30-40% better than the 4080, or 30-50% of the way to the 4090,at $999.99 msrp, it would be a much better deal.
23 minutes after this vid went live......Best Buy only has 1 SKU left in stock. That being said, I'm going to get a FE eventually, for incorporation if a future watercooled build.
Lots of rumours were saying there'd be barely any stock for the 4070 ti super and 4080 super because nvidia wants the base models sold seeing they're being phased out so that's probably why.
I picked a great time to jump back into the computer building scene... ...I feel like I got invited to a friend's house for Thanksgiving and arrived right in the middle of a massive family argument that I had nothing to do with... but I'm not leaving until I get some turkey.
More VRAM doesn't help if no game is close to 16gb usage. It stops the card slowing down, it doesn't increase performance. A bigger bus size would have been nicer however
@@Frozoken The 4080 is around 35% slower than the 4090 at native 4K max settings, and that gap only widens in ray traced games. It's not really surprising when the 4090 has way more cores, ROPS, and bandwidth than the 4080. The 4080 Super is what the 4080 should have been. They should have released a 4080 Ti by now on the AD102 chip. I think gamers would have definitely preferred that.
@@Gamer-q7v Yeah maybe im always looking at 4k when im saying this tho im sure in certain games that can utilise all the 4090's cuda cores properly it is around that margin but that isnt all games. Also yes while i agree with the last part, most of the issue is taht the morons made a seperate 103 die above the 104 die to seemingly give the 80 class closer performance to the 102 dies on the 80ti/90 yet it now has even less cores than the 80 class did on the 104 dies relative to the full die and not even a 320 bit bus width. Ad103 shouldve had 100sm/12800 cores and a 320 bit bus and then itd be close enough where it wouldnt be a big issue imo
Any result over the Hz-limit of your monitor is meaningless anyway. It could be argued that any results over @120 fps are pretty meaningless. Higher end GPUs only make sense for 4K resolution in much more demanding games, where fps falls below that magic 100-120 fps, where you can actually see performance benefits.
@@scottc2455 Yeah, I used to be able to see the flicker on anything below 65Hz on a crt. My 3080 was originally running 4K (60Hz) just fine on a 43 inch TV. TV died last year and I got a 32 inch LG, 1440, 165Hz. A bit smoother looking. Might bump my cpu next if anything. Board will take a 5000 series, Im on a 3700X, waiting on 5950X to get cheaper. I've been on 16 threads in various ways for years. I want to try 32.
3080 12GB here. I am getting a solid 50-60 FPS with Cyberpunk 2077 @ 4K with RTX on High, DLSS at Quality, and All other Settings on Ultra. Although my GPU is Overclocked and Undervolted. Not worth upgrading until the 5000 series IMO. I'm still running an i7-8700k, too, btw. Not worth it to upgrade to the 4000 series...
Well, I've been playing and was keeping track of FPS for the first 20 hours or so. I don't know what's different but I am not lying about my rig or FPS. It's not a constant 60, but stays near or above 50 FPA 99% of the time. Like I said, took the time to overclock and undervolt and it has made my card run SO much better in every way.@@kevinmcclung1194
Enjoy spending $1000 on a gpu that loses to the 4070 Super when RT is turned on at max settings. And if you don't plan to use RT or max settings...then why buy such an expensive gpu? To me, the 4080 Super is the clear winner unless the 7900 XTX drops to around $800
@@KrazzeeKane RTX ON? lol you are funny, not even a 5% of gamers use that stupid ray tracing, that's how Nvidia it's making a budget from idiots lol, I was one of those when 2000 and 3000 series but no more...
agreed, think I'll wait for the 7900XTX to hit $799 again and I'll jump on it. Raytracing isn't worth $200 to me and for 4k the XTX will outlast the 4080S because of vram.
AMD 6000 and 7000 series are a must for any intelligent buyer that actually wants to see the most performance per dollar. Also, if the rumors are true, there will be some pretty good things once the 8000 comes out (similar performance to 4080 at HALF the cost).
Depends on what design you like the most and what you like in games. Personally for me Ray tracing looks way better on my 1440p and 4k monitor. I don’t really like playing single player games like cyberpunk without it
Except it's artificial this time seeing the 4090 is massively faster than the 3090 was while the 2080ti was no where near that much faster than the 1080 ti. Should've been a pascal, was a Turing for anything other than the 4090.
Lmao only worth it if you can get for under 800$. Otherwise, paying that much for a gaming only gpu and not caring about the RT performance and other features makes no sense.
@AnonymousUser-ww6ns the cheapest I am seeing is $760 for used. I see a $500 one but it's "parts only" whatever that means on Ebay so it's prob not actually a 4080 you would get
My dream setup for the future: 38 - 40 inch 5K Ultrawide that can run at 100 hz. Currently running LG 38" which is just a tad taller than the industry standard for 1440p ultrawides and it's glorious, extra rows in excel, and more immersive in games. I honestly don't know why other companies don't add the extra half in inch or so.
I dont agree its a good value imo. This is no longer the 1080 days guys. You cant expect more and more technology more hardware, more parts more metal to be the same price every year. Yalls logic is gone and yes you jay you are one of the wordt when it comes to understanding advancements with pricing. If you made them yourself like my mother used to for the motherboards and chips inside of said gpus you may understand the pricing. Even amd stated they lose money on there gpus just to compete. They make money everywhere else. So its that hard even for and to price well. Amd 7900xtx performs like a 4080 super and was the same prufe as the 4080 super. So what each offer it makes sense based on performance so again you cannot expect flagships at lower prices when even amd is losing money trying to set lower prices. Just like they lost money in the consoles with what they did. Then you have the fact nvidia has hardware prioprietary items that will increase peoduction cost. And expect them not to charge a little more? Get ober it and please take some business classes. You are very smart with things you know but sometimes you sound like the kids at 15 conplaining. You should be much more advanced in business and understand cost then a 15 year old. Just saying. Also why tf would the 4080 super come close to the 4090 when the 4090 is 750 dollars morw ans i dont hear you complaining when testing and getting those lol thats like an entire 4070 ti super in price more then the 4080 super and you ainr getring an entire 4070 ti super in performance on top of the 4080 super. Its within 20 to 30fps. And sometimes in 4k its within 10 to 15fps. Sometimes more yes but its not as big of a lead now imo. Its plenty big but for the price yeah the 4090 actually is horrible value. 4080 super I feel isnt just like the 7900xtx I feel isnt.
Right I got mines at like 110$ off and snatch up my 4080S tuf model but even at 1000$ from my 2060S it such an upgrade and with the tech in place even im not to upset at the price tag. lol but that my friend make this an hot take 😂
Can I just say that I'm getting tired of tech UA-camrs bitching about GPUs? It's been this way for four years now. Every single GPU is a flood of "This sucks. I hate this. Nvidia bad. I want it to be the days of the GTX 980 again." It's really annoying and tiresome. Stop reviewing them if you're just going to whine the whole time.
when jay got to the topic of resolution, with 1080p bottleneck and 1440p minimum, it got me to remember that the whole display/monitor world is just second to GPU in terms of cost. With sparse benefit. It's that one part of a PC that have high dependencies but short-lived returns.
Here in Australia a 7900XTX can be had for as little as $1400-1550, while the new 4080 Super is around $1850. Yet they're almost identical in rasterisation performance
This GPU launch might not have been super, but that 4 mil milestone is! Congratulations in advance! 11.5 years and 2.1k videos of kicking ass, you've come a looooong way.
"super don't give a f***" had me rolling, great content as always @Jayztwocents at LTX2023 you mentioned a LAN event, how about doing that when you cross the threshold?
Hey Jay! I'd love if you would add the MSRP to the game specific charts (maybe under the name of the card?) that way we can see the price next to the performance. Maybe it's just me but it's hard to mentally refer back to the first chart, lol.
Im running an A770 on my rig and love it. I used to only run AMD but have loved the move over. Im sticking with the card ive got until Intels Battlemage releases. I am debating on getting a GPD Win Max 2 though which runs AMD 7640u/7840u though. Mainly because of my interest in the G1 external graphics card with oculink. I would love to know what the comments and Jay think about them.
Building a new setup. Coming from a 1080 Ti. Really unsure still if I’m going for a 7900XTX or a 4080 super. I’m passive to see if they are dropping 7900 XTX prices so far..
I know its not something you can access easily but the price being the same is probably a somewhat exclusive thing to the US. I of course don't know this. I just think that's the case, because where I live there is around a 202 USD difference between the two cheapest variants of each. (7900 xtx and 4080 super)
I'm glad i pulled the trigger on a rx7900XTX Red Devil last weekend. it's a beast of a GPU. upgraded from a rx6950XT Red Devil. A lot faster, less power consuption on lite loads, and less noise when the fans ramp up. It's also about 10c cooler.
How did you connect the Rx 7900 xtx pcie cable's?.. I am stuck on using 2 cable or daisy chain because my be quiet pure power fm 12 has only 2 pin pcie...
@@ElectricOG You answered your own question there, My Corsair rm850x has 5 PCI/EPS outputs. I use 2 for EPS and 3 for PCI. 5 outputs should be minimum on any PSU above 750W . But often, a 12vHPWR connector gets priority.
Your great manner of speaking is clear, easy to listen to, genuine, no manipulation. 👍 4080 gpus are performant but not at all cheap. Warmest regards, neighbours and friends.
As a person who is upgrading from a 3060 ti to a 4080 Super, Specifically the ROG Strix from ASUS, this is a great deal for me. I was orginially going to be getting a ROG Strix 4070 and when i saw the ROG Strix 4080 Super come out at 1,300$, 500$ cheaper than the regular ROG Strix 4080, i had to get it because i was not only getting a good card, i was also upgrading way above what i orginially intended which was a good thing, im getting the variant of card i want, and im not paying 1800$ for a 4080 thats slightly different, instead im getting a hell of a deal in a way and still getting what i want. So in my circumstances the 4080 Super coming out was perfectly timed.
If the product were to come with 20GB instead of 16GB, priced at $999 MSRP, it would undoubtedly generate significant interest. Many consumers are hesitant to purchase models with only 12GB, fearing that it may not provide sufficient longevity for forthcoming games. Consequently, it is foreseeable that the industry will establish 16GB as the minimum standard for the foreseeable future. As we progress towards the realm of 4K, it is reasonable to consider 20-24GB as the appropriate capacity for mid-range systems, while high-end 4K setups would greatly benefit from 32-48GB of memory. Ps. Low end 4k @ 60hz mid end 4k @ 120hz High end 4k @ 240hz
I miss the when the 80 series was $600 - $700
Am drooling looking at 4090 bars. If it ever gets back to msrp I'm buying it
The 4070 Super fit that place. It will run everything at ultra at 1440p for a long time.
@@Divinicus1ersome people dont want 80fps at 1440p
Lol, nah fam. I give that card a solid 2-3 years tops. Then you'll be riding out on them DLSS fake frames for as long as you're able. @@Divinicus1er
Not trying to defend current prices but inflation is a real thing and is only gonna get worse.
I am glad you are putting up price charts. I think a lot of reviewers are afraid to talk about price because they fluctuate.
We had a chance at competition but Steve and the rest of them rejected it. So it's clear they don't care about the prices since they get the products for free.
@@jodieholmes8453 Is it really that? I think they are afraid to mention price because someone might complain that what they bought their card for was not the same as mentioned on the show. I guess if you talk about suggested MSP instead of actual price it might be OK because you can say this is the recommended price by NVIDIA at the time.
@@jodieholmes8453 "We had a chance at competition but Steve and the rest of them rejected it." Who did what and when?
If you're talking about Intel, yeah, they are nice and all compared to the 4060. But they currently have no products on mid and enthusiast gaming level.
@@jodieholmes8453what are you talking about? They all talk about prices they just do it in their own way.. gamers nexus and hardware unboxed both talk about cost per frame and what is worth it
@@jodieholmes8453 I would love to know where they are getting 4080 supers for $999. Did they even look at newegg or amazon etc? sigh.
Love this setup with the tv behind. Super funs style so we can see what you are looking at without losing you!
I was just thinking that, I’m really digging the screen, air easier to follow along, plus I’ve always been curious on what jay has on his screen lol
I honestly think a virtual desktop/screen would be better, but maybe that's because it's what I'm used to. Regardless, either a TV or virtual TV is better than cutting out to a full screen that periodically disconnects you from the person talking.
I got a 7900xtx and dont plan on upgrading for a while. Was only $800 and I love this card so much!
I think the reason behind Super cards is to clear out their overstock before they release the next generation. It looks like this time they Binned the GPUs that had extra stable cores and released them as Supers. The card is the same just the GPU is a little better.
I'm getting that card very, very soon.... 7900xtx yeesss
@@RaykingMasterYou won’t be disappointed I’ve been rocking my 7900xtx since release and it’s been flawless runs 4k very well coming from a 2080ti > 6950xt > 7900xtx
@shaquan9893
Where did you get it for 800?
im planning on getting a powercolor 7800xt red devil.
Gotta say, I switched from my old 2080 TI to a 7900 XT a little over a month ago, not regretting it at all. Especially after knowing I didn't miss out on these "super" cards
You missed out on the xtx though. Small additional cost for great gains
@@WCGwkf Was out of my budget, and I got a fantastic deal on the 7900XT. Couldn't justify the $150+ it would have cost me
$150 is not a small additional cost
I recently upgraded from a 1080ti to a 7900xtx.
After hearing about the supers coming out I was a bit worried I’d regret my purchase, too. But man these super cards just seem so disappointing according to the benchmarks
I have a 6800xt , so far I haven’t seen anything that’s saying I need a new card , however I’m kinda forced to buy a new card cause my wife’s 3070 is horrible
We really need some competition in the GPU space.
I guess AMD and intel aren’t competing 😅
@@xxshiftywolfxxgaming1142not really no
@@Talonzor recent update to adrenalin was very good
@@xxshiftywolfxxgaming1142They are, but people are still dumb and think only ngreedia can build decent cards.
Considering AMD is rumored to be skipping the high end in the next gen (apparently their highest GPU in the next gen will be equal to a 4080), it's only going to be worse.
The only reason they went with matte black is because it's harder to spot melting 12vHPWR connectors if all the plastic isn't shiny.
lol
Pretty sure that would be knowingly violating some kind of consumer protection
@@rodiculous9464 yes, because in the US they care about consumers.
@michaeloswal9847 do you think Nvidia cards are only bought in the US?
@@mute9914 You funny, your question exposes how "intellect" you are. No wonder you still think "Ds" are a left wing party.
" dont give them ideas" 😭0:19
@John-PaulHunt-wy7lfwhy?
Got the 7900XTX for $800 last year. I occasionally get FOMO'd and tempted to switch back to Team Green, but this video validates that there really is nothing to look forward to on the green side and how much of a great value the 7900XTX really is.
*was, it's $1000 now.
At the same price, which they are right now, the 4080 super is the unquestionable option. There's no argument for the AMD card at the same price.
@@MrDutch1e for the europs the cards still have €100/200 difference between 4080 super and 7900xtx. So you're looking at €950 - 1050 for the XTX vs €1120 - 1200 for the super
@@MrDutch1ethe argument is you wont run out of vram after like 2 years 😂
@@MrDutch1eordered an FE for MSRP. Literally refreshed bestbuys page on and off on several days. While I hate Nvidia as a company, I think the 4080 super is a better product for the price. But if you want easy availability, go with team red
I bought a 7900xtx Tuf OC and a 7950x3d a few months back for like a $100 more dollars compared to what 4080 oc's were selling for at the time.
You can build entire computers for the prices of these cards if you don’t splurge on rgb
I have my 3060ti and I'm still happy with it. Running a 1440p 144htz monitor and everything feels smooth. While I'm sure my newer games aren't hitting the max fps, they're still fun to play and I don't notice any issues. Feels like the marketed FOMO is getting really out of hand.
Perfect card for a primarily multi-player gamer.
dont worry, i have a 4080 and a 13600k and iam suprised how many titles just barely reach above 60fps on ultra setting without using dlss and sort. i was expecting the same jump i had when going from from gtx 670 to the gtx 1080, where i went from 40fps on medium to 110 on ultra
Just FYI, it might have been added in the coments already, but the FE Card are only at Best Buy in Canada.
they arent anywhere in aus, also exact same price as a 4080, at least here its far more worth buying a 7900xtx which is 300$ cheaper here
Neither do I and many gamers, don’t worry dude
me and the 1400 other people in line on nvidias site think otherwise lol
@@KellerFkinRyan 1400 people out of 20 million nvidia users. Yes, that certainly screams big stonks.
@@KellerFkinRyanOnly 1400?! Holy shit.
@@KellerFkinRyanonly 1400 such a low percentage
Many people wait until a product has been released for more than a month. Common sense.
I’d love to see a breakdown of the cost to manufacture one of these cards to see what their markups are.
I feel like it’s all just gouging.
I don't think it's the cost of manufacture that drives the price, it's the R&D that goes into them.
@@Zero-SkillzIt takes a dedicated team of engineers to design a card that is different, yet almost completely identical in performance to its predecessor. Also a dedicated marketing team to try and present it as something better.
(I agree with you, I just find this whole launch laughable)
Problem is, talking heads on UA-cam will pick up on what the general theme is, and regurgitate what the comment section is saying to farm more engagement.
The product that get hate and love are the same time, usually all revolve around one competition with two philosophies
Make the best product, and charge the earth for it
And
Make almost the same product, and charge almost the same for it.
It then turns into this, battle where people waste a lot of energy and emotion hating on things mainly because they can’t afford them, or loving them with all their hearts because they saved for them for example.
My $599 was not wasted, I have a good card, that will last for a while for what I need it to do and that’s all I care about. I don’t begrudge someone who went with more performance for the same money but I will have no sympathy if they ran into problems at some point (as is well reported with driver issues and speed of deployment) as they have no sympathy with me for having a lower performing card at the same cost.
You’re being farmed, you always have been and always will be. Easier to go through life without being mad at businesses whose mission is to make the most out of you, as you would in their position. If you wouldn’t, you’ll never be in that position and always be 3 generations behind. If that makes you happy, stop complaining in comment sections about prices, your attitude is why you don’t have a new card
@@braderley I'm not being farmed. I haven't bought a card, new in box, in over a decade. The last card I bought was a used 3070 for like 400 bucks that needed repairs.
If anything, the Super launch bringing down the prices of the 40 series as a whole is a good thing. Undoubtedly, it was an accounting decision because sane people avoided the 40 series at MSRP and they weren't selling.
It is.
Oh boy. Just woke up, and now I just want to go back to bed.
For xtx biggest bonus is no 12pin melting connector 😂
With all the prices being online now in my country (Netherlands) I am baffled to notice that pretty much all 4080 models are more expensive (by sometimes 300 euros) than the 4080 Supers that just dropped.
Well either retailers have to sell them for a loss or a rebate is negotiated to allow retailers to not takes losses if 4080's are discounted
In Greece, it’s the opposite.The Super cards are more expensive than the non-super. Of course, I’m talking about the 80s
Msrp my azz 😂
Same in Belgium neighbour ;)
4090 +/- 2,000€ lol
That was the intention from the very first announcement though. Or are you living that much under a rock you couldn't check the news once in a while?
@@Andy_Spy Nvidia said "eff you" to Greece apparently 🙃
I had to work on the 4080S launch day and just could not take the time off to try and get this card myself. So, I sent my mother-in-law on a mission to get one for me at our local Microcenter lol. She doesn't even know how to turn on my computer, that's how computer illiterate she is, but I had no one else to depend on! I gave her a crash course on GPU manufacturers, that the 4080S could be sold under several different brands, and to try her best to land me either the FE, or the Zotac Gaming Trinity Black Edition, which both retailed for the $999, but if those were gone/sold out, ANY other 4080S would suffice.
I was working on a new build and had everything except the GPU because I was waiting for the 4080S release, so I was running on the iGPU in the meantime. I gave her additional instructions that if for whatever reason she couldn't find any 4080S, to grab the Sapphire 7900XTX Nitro+ that was in stock there. And if for some CRAZY reason, both the 4080S and the 7900XTX's were all sold out, there was a 4090 sitting in the cabinet for the last couple days, she could bring that baby home lol. I secretly wished for the 4080S and 7900XTX to be all sold out, but she came home with the Zotac Gaming 4080S. She did say that the sales rep who helped her had tried to talk her into buying a different 4080S that was $1299, but since the $999 Zotac was available, she declined. He even tried to get her to call me and ask, but she snapped back and said, "I think I can decide for myself which one to get for him!" lol.
I’ve only started watching PC channels in the last year or so after semi building a computer for my wife.
I’ve found that it is very challenging to determine what to get as a consumer for many parts because there are so many options and figuring out what the differences are can be confusing.
I appreciate this channel and GN for keeping everything pretty straightforward.
And then by the time youre done doing all that research new components have released and you can either pull the trigger and deal with the fomo or do another round of research 🫠
@JayzTwoCents not sure if you've done this before, but I really like the TV in the background showing the graphs while you talk through it.
I too have a 3860x1600 monitor, it is fantastic. I really wish a manufacturer would do a OLED in 38" or above in this resolution already.
I went with the strix 4070ti super, coming from the strix 2080.
It breathed new life into my RT titles with double the fps, while keeping everything in ultra at 3440x1440, and despite running a 9900k build, my gpu has been holding a capable 3100mhz and that’s awesome. I’m honestly glad I waited
@@kevod579 so far everything seems fine. Cpu Temps while gaming are 10c over idle and far under any type of heavy load temps. I haven’t watched it’s workload activity yet though against the gpu activity. But the gpu activity looks healthy and I haven’t seen stuttering in benchmarks or gaming
@@kevod5799900K is still a monster CPU and wouldn’t bottleneck a 4070 Ti. My brother has a 9700K with his 4070 Ti and it runs great at 1440p ultrawide.
Dude the a 4070ti super is 1000€ here, i can imagine this gpu price....
I will stick with my 3080Ti, it has done me well thus far
I'm just happy that they are dropping the prices on the other gpu's, I've been trying to save up for one and I'm glad this makes it easier
Got u Jay. U go back 6 to 8 months ago I didn't know anything. Didn't even know what a cpu, gpu or ram was lol. But now of doing Research watching videos asking questions talking to people And watching your videos is what I can across 1st and watched a lot and u explain and show everything really well. Good job and thank you for everything. Now I know enough to build it...right and help others.
$1000 before tax still expensive. It is better than $1200 before tax. Not a lot but that $200 for my monthly car gas fee instead. I’m coming from 1080ti. It’s showing its age. But still keeping it as backup.
2% better....Duh we can all see that just from the specs. I wish channels would compare 4070 TI Super vs 4080 Super instead of the 4080 which won't be around in 2 weeks. Is $200 worth the jump from 4070 TI Super vs 4080 Super? Thats the only thing that matters right now.
Just makes you realize how right EVGA was to pack it in because these prices are way too high. The first company to move to 1440p as their standard is gonna be the king. Why would you play any game 1080p with RT on? That would be like buying a $250,000 Ferrari to put Faux Leather interior in it.
just picked up a 7900xt for $950 canadian. VERY happy i didn’t wait for the 4080 super
i feel sorry for you tho..
@@groenevinger3893why? It’s not 950USD, 950CAD is 700USD, a great price especially outside the US
Great card, much cheaper then whatever Nvidia is offering & better performance.
I have a 7900 XTX, absolutely love it.
@@groenevinger3893 here in Germany the cheapest 4080super is 1150€ including tax while the cheapest 7900xt is 780€ including tax so yeah....
Also 16gb vs. 24gb
Good instinct my dude. Got my 4080 back in march for 1200€ and i'm good too
As of checking a few days ago, the price of the XTX has come down and is now around $899 MSRP, so unless you have a hard-on for RT, the 40 series seems even less compelling. I am currently in the process of buying my new build and the GPU is likely the part I will buy last. Currently im running a 2070 Super and im debating on whether or not I should wait to see what the next gen offers before pulling the trigger.
I just upgraded like 3 weeks ago to a RTX 4080 Palit Jetstream for the equivalent of $900. In my country, the cheapest RTX 4080 Super is the Gigabyte Windforce, which sells for the equivalent of $1265. The most expensive is the Asus Strix RTX 4080 Super, which sells for the equivalent of $1750. Pretty happy with the deal I got. No Founders Edition sold in my country.
Which country ?
@@maboulofob Hungary.
@@ron200088no not really, I just had breakfast.
@@user-tj4ee6si7x People like me, actually wait for a decent deal. Upon release, the cheapest RTX 4080, was like $1450. The same Palit Jetstream. People like me, also work for a living and a modern GPU, is part of the PC, that produces the vast part of my income. Times have changed, prices have gone high. Nvidia couldn’t care less about people like me, when the vast majority of their income, comes from the business sector. You either adapt or you sink. And then you start complaining that you can’t upgrade, because no money.
Simp
With a performance gap that small, Nvidia could have just dropped the price on the 4080 by $200 instead of creating a new card
Jay I think you should start doing some testing of triples for us SIM racers id like to see if 1080 would still be irrelevant using tripples
I’m happy with my 4090. It’s way over kill for my needs but I only upgrade every 6 years. So I don’t really upgrade my pc like an iPhone. To me it was overpriced but way better than my 1080 ti. Max sittings on everything with 132 average fps 1440p on an ultra wide 240 hz monitor. 64gs 6800 Corsair titanium ram asus z790 mb, 6 tb m.2, 1200 watt Thor asus psu running windows 11. Using g & v sync and dlss upscaling to 4k. It kicks ass. I game and create short story animations as a hobby with adobe
22:15 Phil (I guess) - awesome closing screen lol
The 4090 is an entirely different class to the 4080 Super.
E: Colorful make some nice cards.
"The 4080 Super is intended to get close enough to the 4090 to be worth considering," - guru3d source 3.
That was ambitious. The price difference means it's worth considering, but performance wise they are in entirely different classes.
E2: Ultrawide would be nice to see on the charts, but that's more work for you guys.
If they would have given the 4080 Super 20GB memory and the performance was ~30-40% better than the 4080, or 30-50% of the way to the 4090,at $999.99 msrp, it would be a much better deal.
In Poland the 4080sFE was sold in less than 5 minutes 😂 I was looking into it, buy the website was laggy, buggy and it was too late.
Almost 4mil, Jay! Congrats! Well done to the team, as well. 😄
I am waiting for the 4030 Extreme Super Ti OC X Volcanoid Orgasmic Edition with RGB, heads up display, hologram and built in lava lamp.
"Black will go with any build"
Me who wants to do all white build: 😑
23 minutes after this vid went live......Best Buy only has 1 SKU left in stock. That being said, I'm going to get a FE eventually, for incorporation if a future watercooled build.
Lots of rumours were saying there'd be barely any stock for the 4070 ti super and 4080 super because nvidia wants the base models sold seeing they're being phased out so that's probably why.
I picked a great time to jump back into the computer building scene...
...I feel like I got invited to a friend's house for Thanksgiving and arrived right in the middle of a massive family argument that I had nothing to do with... but I'm not leaving until I get some turkey.
Matching the VRAM capacity of the 7900XT would've been appreciated.
And 320 bits
Also not being 30% slower than the 4090 would be great too. The 2080ti was in the high teens% faster
More VRAM doesn't help if no game is close to 16gb usage. It stops the card slowing down, it doesn't increase performance. A bigger bus size would have been nicer however
@@Frozoken The 4080 is around 35% slower than the 4090 at native 4K max settings, and that gap only widens in ray traced games. It's not really surprising when the 4090 has way more cores, ROPS, and bandwidth than the 4080. The 4080 Super is what the 4080 should have been. They should have released a 4080 Ti by now on the AD102 chip. I think gamers would have definitely preferred that.
@@Gamer-q7v Yeah maybe im always looking at 4k when im saying this tho im sure in certain games that can utilise all the 4090's cuda cores properly it is around that margin but that isnt all games. Also yes while i agree with the last part, most of the issue is taht the morons made a seperate 103 die above the 104 die to seemingly give the 80 class closer performance to the 102 dies on the 80ti/90 yet it now has even less cores than the 80 class did on the 104 dies relative to the full die and not even a 320 bit bus width. Ad103 shouldve had 100sm/12800 cores and a 320 bit bus and then itd be close enough where it wouldnt be a big issue imo
With DLSS and 1440 SOTR ultra settings...the 4080FE is getting 37 more fps than my 3080 10g. Think I'll hang on to my money for a while.
Any result over the Hz-limit of your monitor is meaningless anyway. It could be argued that any results over @120 fps are pretty meaningless. Higher end GPUs only make sense for 4K resolution in much more demanding games, where fps falls below that magic 100-120 fps, where you can actually see performance benefits.
@@scottc2455
Yeah, I used to be able to see the flicker on anything below 65Hz on a crt.
My 3080 was originally running 4K (60Hz) just fine on a 43 inch TV. TV died last year and I got a 32 inch LG, 1440, 165Hz. A bit smoother looking.
Might bump my cpu next if anything. Board will take a 5000 series, Im on a 3700X, waiting on 5950X to get cheaper. I've been on 16 threads in various ways for years. I want to try 32.
3080 12GB here. I am getting a solid 50-60 FPS with Cyberpunk 2077 @ 4K with RTX on High, DLSS at Quality, and All other Settings on Ultra. Although my GPU is Overclocked and Undervolted. Not worth upgrading until the 5000 series IMO. I'm still running an i7-8700k, too, btw. Not worth it to upgrade to the 4000 series...
@@DerekDudageno shot you got 60 fps on ray tracing high with 3080 with 8700k. I have 9700k and have to turn off ray tracing to get that fps.
Well, I've been playing and was keeping track of FPS for the first 20 hours or so. I don't know what's different but I am not lying about my rig or FPS. It's not a constant 60, but stays near or above 50 FPA 99% of the time. Like I said, took the time to overclock and undervolt and it has made my card run SO much better in every way.@@kevinmcclung1194
I just bought a 4080 super. So long as it’s better than my 2070 standard I’ll
Be happy.
Yaayyy I'm finally 100% sure to buy the 7900xtx
Enjoy spending $1000 on a gpu that loses to the 4070 Super when RT is turned on at max settings. And if you don't plan to use RT or max settings...then why buy such an expensive gpu? To me, the 4080 Super is the clear winner unless the 7900 XTX drops to around $800
@@KrazzeeKane RTX ON? lol you are funny, not even a 5% of gamers use that stupid ray tracing, that's how Nvidia it's making a budget from idiots lol, I was one of those when 2000 and 3000 series but no more...
agreed, think I'll wait for the 7900XTX to hit $799 again and I'll jump on it. Raytracing isn't worth $200 to me and for 4k the XTX will outlast the 4080S because of vram.
@@Liq38 I'm definitely waiting for that too
@@RaykingMasterok how about reflex and DLSS 2 quality? Everyone turns on reflex seeing it has no downsides and DLSS quality is used a lot too.
I’d love to see ultraiwde resolutions tested for new releases in the future with hardware moving past 1080p
Jay I am still thinking going AMD cards now they are pretty close and cheaper than nvidia
AMD 6000 and 7000 series are a must for any intelligent buyer that actually wants to see the most performance per dollar. Also, if the rumors are true, there will be some pretty good things once the 8000 comes out (similar performance to 4080 at HALF the cost).
Depends on what design you like the most and what you like in games. Personally for me Ray tracing looks way better on my 1440p and 4k monitor. I don’t really like playing single player games like cyberpunk without it
Congratulations on getting to 4 million. I remember when you used tonwork as tech support and where those polo shirts long time.
This Lovelace cards really remind me of the Turing series.
Except it's artificial this time seeing the 4090 is massively faster than the 3090 was while the 2080ti was no where near that much faster than the 1080 ti. Should've been a pascal, was a Turing for anything other than the 4090.
Awesome this just solidified my choice in the 7900xtx
Lmao only worth it if you can get for under 800$. Otherwise, paying that much for a gaming only gpu and not caring about the RT performance and other features makes no sense.
I waited 24 extra hours for this video
Sad
@@temperedglass1130 nvidia pushed reviews back on purpose.
Coming from a 1070 the 4080 SUPER is probably well worth the cost here in Australia, since my monitor is only 1440p 144hz
trying to resell your gpu always sucks because they get worthless really fast
@AnonymousUser-ww6ns the cheapest I am seeing is $760 for used. I see a $500 one but it's "parts only" whatever that means on Ebay so it's prob not actually a 4080 you would get
That usually means it's broken in some way.@@Tactify24
@AnonymousUser-ww6ns Not where I live. In Austria they try to sell it for like 5-10% less, than the original price...
Just wait 2 years. In 2026, It’ll be 400-500. The 4090 will be at 1300 probably.
I just love all video titles today.
Thanks Jay
Will you be reviewing the new 5700X3D?
My dream setup for the future:
38 - 40 inch 5K Ultrawide that can run at 100 hz.
Currently running LG 38" which is just a tad taller than the industry standard for 1440p ultrawides and it's glorious, extra rows in excel, and more immersive in games.
I honestly don't know why other companies don't add the extra half in inch or so.
I don't care about the performance I care about the price. On amazon they are asking 1500 for 4080! That is crazy.
@AnonymousUser-ww6ns Agree 100% everything is a scam today period.
The iGame Vulcan 4080 Super is currently available for purchase in Malaysia at a retail price of MYR5999.
here in australia, the super has dropped at the msrp of the non super and the 4080 stock is available at the super msrp
Well, that is just dumb.. for the consumer. At least you can get a discout for the original 4080 .
I dont agree its a good value imo. This is no longer the 1080 days guys. You cant expect more and more technology more hardware, more parts more metal to be the same price every year. Yalls logic is gone and yes you jay you are one of the wordt when it comes to understanding advancements with pricing. If you made them yourself like my mother used to for the motherboards and chips inside of said gpus you may understand the pricing. Even amd stated they lose money on there gpus just to compete. They make money everywhere else. So its that hard even for and to price well. Amd 7900xtx performs like a 4080 super and was the same prufe as the 4080 super. So what each offer it makes sense based on performance so again you cannot expect flagships at lower prices when even amd is losing money trying to set lower prices. Just like they lost money in the consoles with what they did. Then you have the fact nvidia has hardware prioprietary items that will increase peoduction cost. And expect them not to charge a little more? Get ober it and please take some business classes.
You are very smart with things you know but sometimes you sound like the kids at 15 conplaining. You should be much more advanced in business and understand cost then a 15 year old. Just saying.
Also why tf would the 4080 super come close to the 4090 when the 4090 is 750 dollars morw ans i dont hear you complaining when testing and getting those lol thats like an entire 4070 ti super in price more then the 4080 super and you ainr getring an entire 4070 ti super in performance on top of the 4080 super. Its within 20 to 30fps. And sometimes in 4k its within 10 to 15fps. Sometimes more yes but its not as big of a lead now imo. Its plenty big but for the price yeah the 4090 actually is horrible value. 4080 super I feel isnt just like the 7900xtx I feel isnt.
Right I got mines at like 110$ off and snatch up my 4080S tuf model but even at 1000$ from my 2060S it such an upgrade and with the tech in place even im not to upset at the price tag. lol but that my friend make this an hot take 😂
There’s room for a 4080Ti on the AD102 die w/ 320 Memory Bit Bus, 420W, 14,348 CUDA Cores and such
But they would rather just use those dies for 4090s at higher prices
I just upgraded from a 2070 to a 4070ti super 👌. Next to upgrade cpu!
Ordered 4080s this morning. Going to be a big performance increase over my 1660s and XboxSX
Please start including 3440 x 1440.... that would be amazing
No. Just do the math.
Yes please on including ultrawide on the resolution section
I bought a 4080 off a guy for $400 right before this launch
I love U boo boo
Do U love me?
than you got the best deal of your life
I’ll give u $700 for it 😂
They decided all the letters after the numbers was getting too much, so now the next launch will be a 4100 instead of a 4090ti or 4090 Super.
I love the title
Can I just say that I'm getting tired of tech UA-camrs bitching about GPUs? It's been this way for four years now. Every single GPU is a flood of "This sucks. I hate this. Nvidia bad. I want it to be the days of the GTX 980 again." It's really annoying and tiresome. Stop reviewing them if you're just going to whine the whole time.
Seems odd not to test the cooling when the performance numbers were so close.
when jay got to the topic of resolution, with 1080p bottleneck and 1440p minimum, it got me to remember that the whole display/monitor world is just second to GPU in terms of cost. With sparse benefit. It's that one part of a PC that have high dependencies but short-lived returns.
They're charging around $1,300 US for them here in Australia. They just slotted them above the normal 4080 without dropping those prices.
Just seen this myself, now I don't know what I'm buying.
Yep literally more expensive than standard 4080. Though remember US prices don't include tax like they do here.
Here in Australia a 7900XTX can be had for as little as $1400-1550, while the new 4080 Super is around $1850. Yet they're almost identical in rasterisation performance
This GPU launch might not have been super, but that 4 mil milestone is! Congratulations in advance! 11.5 years and 2.1k videos of kicking ass, you've come a looooong way.
Definitely start adding ultra wide fps, some of these screens are pretty much the equivalent to '3-3.5k' pixel counts for 1440p
Oh please pretty please throw in results on 3440x1440 monitors. What I run for all my games because I just love the immersion an ultrawide brings.
Same here. After using a 3440x1440 monitor for the last few years, a 16:9 looks too narrow. Ugh. 🙂
Yes, this!!!
"super don't give a f***" had me rolling, great content as always
@Jayztwocents at LTX2023 you mentioned a LAN event, how about doing that when you cross the threshold?
Hey Jay! I'd love if you would add the MSRP to the game specific charts (maybe under the name of the card?) that way we can see the price next to the performance. Maybe it's just me but it's hard to mentally refer back to the first chart, lol.
ya know, it was a cogent and insightful breakdown of data in spite of how jaded everyone is with these tests at the mo. thumbs-up for that.
Im running an A770 on my rig and love it. I used to only run AMD but have loved the move over. Im sticking with the card ive got until Intels Battlemage releases.
I am debating on getting a GPD Win Max 2 though which runs AMD 7640u/7840u though. Mainly because of my interest in the G1 external graphics card with oculink. I would love to know what the comments and Jay think about them.
I tested an A770 but returned it to Newegg. It was a stuttering mess. And my backup, spare 3060Ti was better in every way.
Gz on 4 million subs homie.
Would be entertaining if AMD or intel dropped a halo card into this launch.
4080 super came out and its %10 more expensive than the 4080 in my country... great.
if you start including ultrawide numbers, this will definitely be my go to for fps comparisons. I also run a 3840x1600 LG 38GN950
Building a new setup. Coming from a 1080 Ti. Really unsure still if I’m going for a 7900XTX or a 4080 super. I’m passive to see if they are dropping 7900 XTX prices so far..
I know its not something you can access easily but the price being the same is probably a somewhat exclusive thing to the US. I of course don't know this.
I just think that's the case, because where I live there is around a 202 USD difference between the two cheapest variants of each. (7900 xtx and 4080 super)
So awesome to see you at 3.99M subs! Can't wait for it to tick over for you guys! You've earned it! Keep up the great content!
We do have Best Buy up here too Jay! And price ranges from $1369 up to $1689. FE is the lowest priced, Asus Stryx in $1689.
Price for this should clearly be 750~800 USD$, but pandemic made nVidia greedy and buyers dumb.
I'm glad i pulled the trigger on a rx7900XTX Red Devil last weekend. it's a beast of a GPU. upgraded from a rx6950XT Red Devil. A lot faster, less power consuption on lite loads, and less noise when the fans ramp up. It's also about 10c cooler.
How did you connect the Rx 7900 xtx pcie cable's?..
I am stuck on using 2 cable or daisy chain because my be quiet pure power fm 12 has only 2 pin pcie...
Good move... scalpers back at it!
@@ElectricOG You answered your own question there, My Corsair rm850x has 5 PCI/EPS outputs. I use 2 for EPS and 3 for PCI. 5 outputs should be minimum on any PSU above 750W . But often, a 12vHPWR connector gets priority.
Big performance gap between 80 super and 90 tells me they have a 4080 Ti and Ti Super waiting in the wings. And probably a 90Ti too
Your great manner of speaking is clear, easy to listen to, genuine, no manipulation. 👍
4080 gpus are performant but not at all cheap.
Warmest regards, neighbours and friends.
As a person who is upgrading from a 3060 ti to a 4080 Super, Specifically the ROG Strix from ASUS, this is a great deal for me. I was orginially going to be getting a ROG Strix 4070 and when i saw the ROG Strix 4080 Super come out at 1,300$, 500$ cheaper than the regular ROG Strix 4080, i had to get it because i was not only getting a good card, i was also upgrading way above what i orginially intended which was a good thing, im getting the variant of card i want, and im not paying 1800$ for a 4080 thats slightly different, instead im getting a hell of a deal in a way and still getting what i want. So in my circumstances the 4080 Super coming out was perfectly timed.
-- Hey congrats on 4 mil coming up, and I hope you feel better.
I have a RTX 3080 FTW3 and I was thinking to upgrade to the RTX 4080 Super. But, now I'm having second thoughts.
I have a 3080 Ti, and was considering the 4080 Super. After the reviews though, I think I am just going to hold off until the 50 series unfortunately.
@@ThePlainswalker13yeah why would u shell out a grand for 30-35% more performance lmao.
@@Frozoken Because I could spend $2k and practically get 2x. I was hoping the gap would be a bit smaller.
Of course you wouldnt care, you already got the 4090.
If the product were to come with 20GB instead of 16GB, priced at $999 MSRP, it would undoubtedly generate significant interest. Many consumers are hesitant to purchase models with only 12GB, fearing that it may not provide sufficient longevity for forthcoming games. Consequently, it is foreseeable that the industry will establish 16GB as the minimum standard for the foreseeable future. As we progress towards the realm of 4K, it is reasonable to consider 20-24GB as the appropriate capacity for mid-range systems, while high-end 4K setups would greatly benefit from 32-48GB of memory.
Ps.
Low end 4k @ 60hz
mid end 4k @ 120hz
High end 4k @ 240hz
in the end, people bought it anyway.
Thanks, FOR THE LEATHER!