What I like about your OC trials is the amount of knowledge you have and how you explain it to the users. Even if I like to undervoltage to prevent those insane power usages.
Undervolting is only necessary if temps are getting too high for your liking..for example, Core i9-series or even laptops benefit much more from undervolting than an RTX 4070 Ti Super that's already below 70ºC lol.
There was nothing wrong with him. You all fall for the trap out because he knows how ignorant and gullible most individuals are. The man uploaded a picture of a arm at a clinic. He did this during the pandemic when his viewership were going down because he didn't know how to pivot from doing PC builds during the GPU shortage.
I remember certain lines of the rtx2000 series had vastly different mem speeds based on the manufacturer. I remember my zotac extereme whatever 2070 had significantly faster mem speed than all but 2 or 3 other 2070 cards which were near the same. Those specific cards could get really close to the 2070 super base time spy scores.
I'm still rocking my 1070ti but it is starting to degrade. I've lost about 75mhz of stable overclock in the past 2 years but I'm pumped to the 4070ti super or maybe wait for next gen see how it goes
@@hairychesticles1yeah gains aren’t as big now. I squeezed 8% out of my 4090 with a memory OC. My 1080ti could get more and older gpus were much easier. Manufacturers know how much they can get and they push it as far as they can while having it work on every card
Does anyone remember the Sapphire X800GTO2 from back in the day? You could flash it to a full on X850XTPE, it would take CS:Source FPS from around 60, to around 120... just with a BIOS flash, and still had more room to overclock it beyond that.
nVidia had a similar thing back in 2003 with their GeForce FX 5900-series. You could make any of the following cards become the same as their top-model GeForce FX 5950 Ultra (256 MB) after just a simple Bios flash: GeForce FX 5900 Ultra (256 MB) GeForce FX 5900 XT (128 MB) GeForce FX 5900 SP (128 MB) GeForce FX 5900 (128 MB) For the 128 MB models, the improvement was very noticeable.
@@SuperConker That's nonsense. First of all, the 128MB would be gravely missed sooner or later. Secon, at least XT and ZT (what's SP?) hat much lower clocking memory, so you could never reach 5900-speeds. I don't know about the difference in 5900, 5900 Ultra and 5950 Ultra, though, could be the same, could be slightly different. And thirdly, at least XT and ZT had entirely different PCB and cooling systems so you could never reach the same clock as 5950 Ultra. I could imagine 5900 256MB being identical to 5900 Ultra. All people saying "I OCed card x to level of card y!" always forget that card y could also be OCed in in 99,9% of cases would reach higher clocks than card x. Top tier cards often do not have as much headroom as certain lower tier models but overall clock always will be higher. There might have been very few cases were you really got a downclocked top-tier card with a different name, like X800GTO² beeing a X850XT in disguise, but that always was intentional.
Because that was the intention of X800GTO², clearing the stock of R400-GPUs right beforce X1800-release. X800GTO², guaranteed to be unlockable to 16 pipes, were more expensive than regular X800GTO², which often were not unlockable, but this way sales were boosted by hopes of getting a cheap X850XT. If you were unlucky and your X800GTO was not unlockable, you would have been better of buying an X800XL for about the same price. If you were really unlucky you got one with not unluxckable R430-core and were stuck with 12 pipes AND low core clock, in essence a X800 256MB.
2:14 small correction, 4080 power limit is 320W (according to TechPowerUp) not 350W, so the difference is 35W not 65W, and also makes what Jay is doing (adding 10%) more compelling, because 10% of 285W is 28.5W, so almost as much as would be needed to match the 4080 tdp.
You can overclock to get more clockspeed out of the 4070Ti Super , but you cannot overclock to get more L2 cache. 4080 has 64MB of L2 cache, 4070Ti Super has 48MB .
IM calling BS, been mining with every card you can think of over the last 6 years, and your not pushing your memory 1250mhz, and your core clock.. and your Power limit 18 percent... which I dont think they even alow you too go past 110 on all the cards ive played with in the 4000 series... and your saying its increasing your temps by 2c.. your full of crap man im sorry.. just straight lies, maybe your getting plus 2c if you droped the power limit 18 percent.. which is possible unlike what you said.. and had your fans running 80-100 percent. post the data @@ElmorQuistin
If the fan power usage is a genuine concern, disconnect the fans from the card and connect them to a fan hub or similar (it's easy enough to get an adapter for this). Or just deshroud it and point a leaf blower at the card.
@@dkindigsame I got my 3070 during the drought and didn't regret it then but ever since said I should have waited longer but my build was waiting for a GPU. I'm fairly happy but I've switched to a 34uw 1440p monitor and I play VR. So gonna maybe swoop the 4070s or 4070ti super. Can't decide if pay the extra like 250 for 4gb more of vram or not
@@str8ripn881 I don't know if the extra 4GB is worth it. Ti Super is a beast at anything 1440 you can throw at it. I've been running 4k with it for a while (dlss quality for a couple of titles) and it's doing pretty good at that too. From what I've seen Super and Ti Super performance is VERY close. In Starfield at 4k with a 60GB HD texture pack: 10.5GB vram used. If you're not going to ray-trace or path-trace the extra vram doesn't seem to be a plus.
I don't know if the extra 4GB is worth it. Ti Super is a beast at anything 1440 you can throw at it. I've been running 4k with it for a while (dlss quality for a couple of titles) and it's doing pretty good at that too. From what I've seen Super and Ti Super performance is VERY close. In Starfield at 4k with a 60GB HD texture pack: 10.5GB vram used. If you're not going to ray-trace or path-trace the extra vram doesn't seem to be a plus.
@@dkindig yeah I play rpg and any single player typically with ray tracing on. Would like to try the path tracing of cyberpunk a little bit. But not a must. I'm kinda concerned with VR performance but I do think I may save some money and just get a Super for this rig sell my 3070. Then I'm gonna plan on a full new build around a late 50series super card or keep the 3070 to put back in current rig then do new cpu with pcie5 ddr5 stuff with the 4070super. Who knows may keep this next card with current rig til the 60series for a full build if the 4070super ends up playing with the 1440p ultrawide and pcvr well enough
My overclocking these days on nvidia cards, is slide up the power slider as far as it will go and lock the fan speed at 75-80% wack +150 on the core +1000 on memory then call it a day. i havent ran into a 20/30/40 series card that cant do that.
Been watching for years, seen several videos of you Oc'ing, but I really liked this. Some how this gave me a way better understanding. This form, but now show us some practical OC for CPU.
The RTX 4080 is 320w, not 350w. 350w might be for a factory OC model like a Strix. 10% ontop of the 4070ti Super is 313w, which isn't that far off from the Founder's Edition RTX 4080.
I have the crappy msi ventus version but i was able to hit 3000mhz core clock at +190 and keep memory at +1800 for a 1500mhz peak in the memory speed stable.
THIS is what I've been waiting for. Initially I was so stoked to get a 4070ti super, but the reviews rly made me go "meh". However I always wondered whether this thing might be an OC beast
I've had mine for about two months now and I'm getting ready to go in and do a serious run at OC, currently have been running DX12 at +120 clock, +1000 mem, clock running pretty consistently at around 2940, and getting performance within just a few frames of a base 4080 at 1440p. Definitely worth it for the savings. Hoping I can find a way to manually bump up voltage and push it further. Temps are excellent!
I remember getting my gtx275 sc for under $300, maybe nearer $250. I used to think of upgrading my gpu as buying a new console. I justified the price because I was going to get a step up in the graphics. If I wanted to splurge, I'd spend near a grand and get a whole new pc build. Now it's $800 just for the card!?! That's crazy stupid. After stupidly buying a 2080 ti, and then never using it(the switch released) I am not buying another new pc build until my pc flat out does not boot. Console gaming is now all I do exclusively. I can afford these new cards, but it's the principle of it that gets me. I'm not supporting this model anymore, when I can just get a ps5(which I haven't done until these survival horror games come out) and a new TV for the price of a gpu. I still keep up on pc gaming though.
Alternatively, get a used card after a new generation comes out. I'll think about a 40 series once they hit eBay for a fraction of the price, if at all.
This is a modern way to over clock gpus to run up to the maximum. It takes time but you can dial in the over clock in the curve editor. Tbis is the way to optimize the gpu at each voltage bin. I watch the temps, mv, and mhz during the bench mark and dial in the top points then interpolate down to my 2d base clocks. I have found this helps if power limit and voltage limit drop tbe mv down but the mhz stays up and causes a crash.
Interesting to know that Port Royal importance regarding RT. Coincidentally I just finished the 2nd time of undervolting and "overclocking" my RTX 3070 and used Heaven for it. I think since I went for undervolting that shouldn't be a huge issue, but I also don't play any RT Titles at the moment. The Stock settings of the Asus Dual OC 3070 are just so terrible, you can't just plug and play it. Not much performance and the stock temperatures are horrible. Managed to get the Card from a 1.06V @1775 ( 1875 Mhz ) to a stable 0.9V @ 1935Mhz. Probably could push it further, but already super happy with it that way. Temps in my most played game dropped by 10°C, less power draw, same performance ( locked fps ) and so much more quiet. Haha. Love messing around with the hardware. So much fun.
I have MSI 4080 Super OC and it is already overclocked. When I boost some clock for GPU and memory 250/500, I get about 4% boost, which is not noticeable. Rendering the same file in Davinci is getting boost from 9m 12s to 8m 50s. But would rather have more stable system than trying to gain more than 4-5% in performance boost.
You can set the V/F in the curve chart what are you talking about? Lock your V/F curve to 1075mv 1100mv isn't even safe for the memory controller. Transient loads greater than 125mv @ 1075mv will exceed the 1.2v which nvidia purposefully hardcaps.
I did some good experimentation (mostly synthetics as well as one esports game, Asphalt 9 running at 500+fps) and posted my findings on the nvidia subreddit. I have a 4070 ti zotac amp holo, which allows my slider +20% power. This made a huge difference and I was able to comfortably get memory clocks to 12501 stable, by maxing out the slider in afterburner. I also got the core stable to 3030mhz with a +258 increase. These results put it roughly halfway between the 7900xtx and 4080 according to your previous testing. And put it far above the 4070 Ti. I do still feel the power limit HEAVILY even at this point though so I'd love to see what a custom vbios or other mod could do for this card.
the 16 gb on the 4070 is great for our office application which needs extra vram, i could see this card being great for students as well who are messing around with modeling type software and need the vram but cant spend a lot, i think people are writing this card off but it actually has a huge use case. My office cant spend 2k on a 4090 but 700 bucks for a 4070 is amazing.
That's where m at I'm making a career change into 3d animation (or hoping to) and so there's no way I can justify a 4090, but the VRAM cache on this card is EXAXTLY what I need for my unreal scenes, at a price I can just about manage.
@@matthewward1346 If your worried about 2k on 24GB on a 4090 go with the 3090 24GB for just $600 in the used market. Although the 4070Ti Super 16GB performs much better then the 3090 with better power efficiency as well.
Not a hypothetical - ive done this myself! Had a Zotac 3070 that came with a 2 fan shroud. I removed the shroud and stock fans and ty-rapped 2 120mm Noctuas to the heat sink and used a 1 to 2 PWM splitter to allow 2 fans to plug into 1 4pin header on motherboard. When I did this without touching anything else I got about a 50 MHz boost avg just running stock. However there was a downside - cant set fans to ramp up and down based off of GPU core temp or hotspot temp as those settings arent exposed in my motherboard (or most mobos I think) So I had to use 3rd party software in windows to control the fans based off GPU core temps. I also tried using the 2 noctuas with 2 into 1 splitter then going into a mini PWM header - the kind that the fans connect too on the GPU. Looks like a 4 pin PWM header just a lot smaller. I thought doing this I would be able to run my own fans and the GPU would see them as its own and thus id be able to set the fans to ramp using GPU temps just like normal. However, I found out that the header could not supply enough current to spin both my Noctuas at full speed. They have a 2000 rpm top speed roughly and I cant remmeber the exact number as this was a few years ago but I believe the highest I could get them to go was 1200 or 1400 rpm which would have negated any cooling benefit putting these non OEM fans on would have given me! TLDR: Yes you can and you will gain additional headroom for OC or a lower operating temp at the same fan speed, but need 3rd party fan control software to control fans based off GPU temps
No voltage curve. 👎 It lowers secret clocks/shuts off core clusters in the background and lowers performance with Ada architecture. It works wonders on my 3090, but those days are over.
@@802Garage You can lower your power draw and temps, but it's no longer "free". To be fair it is not as essential as it was on the 30-series. That Samsung 8nm process is hella power hungry. 3090 performance differed greatly if you had a model with two or three 8-pin connectors. My FTW3 could pull 480W past 2GHz with a dirty OC. Undervolting dropped it to 450W max with most games under 420W and still hold 2Ghz. Ada Lovelace is much more power efficient.
Nice work Jay, great demo of OCing Nvidia cards. RTX4000 cards are stuck to +5% max OC, like here. AMD 7800XT, 7900XT/XTX, all seem to go +15% if the cooler is up to it, so extremely good for raster, but obviously, they take a hit when it comes to RT, but that's no secret.
Jay is right...this card will go down as the sweet spot 40 series card. Glad you can now get 16 gigs of ram in the 70 bin. You could get 16 at launch with the 60ti, but with a memory subsystem that couldn't fully realize the buffer.
LMAO, no it won't. This is a $800 card that gets outperformed by a $650 AMD card. Remember that in 2020 $699 got you a 3080, which offered 50% more performance than the outgoing top card (2080 Ti). Meanwhile, this shitbox card gets like 15% more performance than the 3090 and is like 26% faster than a 3080. The sweet spot for the 40-series is buy a 4090 or buy AMD.
burnt a card doing this. it had the really strange effect of sort of seeing through walls. The other players would be slightly visible due to some sort of rendering issue. Lot of static though, but did still run.
You burnt a card because you ignored every warning. Hopefully you learned from this experience and haven’t kept playing a game while there were visual bugs.
I am wondering how the Asus rog strix 4070 TI Super will do in overclocking. I believe the powerlimit is 366 watts wich would bring it much closer to a 4080 then the reference models. For me a couple % more or less is not important as i value the power saving and temps and low acoustics over some extra fps with more heat and noise.
You can see the tgp in gpuz under the advanced tab after selecting vbios in the pull down. Also unlocking voltage control is usually a pain with afterburner not that it would be helpful with the power limit
Edited: Because so many missed the point and thought I was upset about overclocking. Overclocking wasn't the point, the fact Nvidia screwed over consumers and board partners with overpriced smaller cut down GPU is! The 4070 Ti Super is what the 4070 Ti should have been all along. The 4070 Ti original should have been a 4070, and the 4070 original should have been a 4060 Ti. Ever since Nvidia released the 40 series and people saw the vast gap between the 4080 and 4090, anyone who could do math knew the 4080 was missing specs. Especially when they tried releasing two versions of the 4080 where both had specs lower than they should be. Now the 4070 Ti Super is what the unreleased 4080 12gb was (Same exact die, same exact GPU specifications with slightly higher clocks). The 4080 original should have had what the 4080 super is going to have to begin with, again...based off math of how typical die counts are. Projected over a year ago in comments that the 4080 should have at the very least been 10240 to begin with. Now they are releasing 'Super' badge cards with expected specifications, and on top of it they are doing it at either the same price or less than the original cards price. I only upgraded because my 1080 bit the dust after lasting the last 5 years. I was originally going to go AMD, but went with the 4080 because it ended up being less than a $100 more than the 7900 XTX I was going to get due to being an 'open box.' I hate that AMD isn't willing to fight to compare apples to apples with Nvidia, cause it just leaves them able to screw consumers more just like Intel used to before Ryzen was a thing.
@@whitecrowuk575 Ah yes, the 'Let's disregard the point with another point that is an entirely different point.' I can overclock my 4080, you're right, but I shouldn't have to. These are specifications that the cards should have came with originally without needing a 'super' badge. Especially since via past releases 'Ti' versions were usually always cut-down version of higher GPU (IE xx80 Ti were usually cut back xx90/titan cards, xx70 Ti were cut back xx80, so on and so forth). The first clue about the fact something was fishy, was the fact nvidia tried to sell two different 4080 cards that had distinctly different specifications. Not only did this stink to high hell, but people noticed that the higher end 4080 seemed to be incredibly cut back from the 4090's 16384 cuda to a surprisingly low 9728, which for 1200 made no sense as it should have been at least 10240 with a Ti expected to be around 12~13000 range. Then the laughable lower end 4080 was unreleased and oddly had the same cuda/GPU code as the now 4070 Ti Super. TL;DR The point is, Nvidia purpose sold further cut back GPU die to make more money. Very scummy thing for them to do. The worst part is, sadly AMD did the same exact thing with their 7000 Series cards which is one of the reasons why they aren't much better than their 6000 predecessors. This isn't something consumers should be ok with asn is now the second time Nvidia has done this after having a 'Good' series release, they follow it up with a 'Scummy' series where they do a lot of shady manipulation of specs and marketing to make money back. Thus far, 20 and 40 series have been Scummy bull crappery like this.
@@Kitkat5335 so you complaining about overclocked 70tis getting close to 4080 stock? What kind of nonsense is this. Those are new cards, new cards are faster. Will you complain in a year that 5070 is faster than yours 4080?
@@whitecrowuk575 Wow, I'm amazed at how people missed the god damn point. The point AGAIN, is that they released lower spec cards for more money only to turn around and release "super" badged cards with the expected specs for the same or less money. They effectively screwed over the consumer, and to some degree board partners, just to make more money of lower spec cards. If you aren't going to read the entire comment, then don't bother responding as you end up putting your foot in your mouth.
@@Kitkat5335 I think problem is when you make long comment and put across multiple points some of which are off. Sure Nvidia should’ve released them at the launch which would be a bit more sensible value I agree but them are testing waters and people buying those cards which offer poor value very much are the problem. So many could moan at you that you did buy awful value 4080 and hence reinforced Nvidia in their pricing strategy.
Arent the 2 pcie cables capable of only 300w max? you had 305w probably the crash was due to overpower protection from the PSU (i hope) or it can melt everything back there
Jay the statement of the 4070 Ti Super being the best value overall card, I don't think it will still be true once the 4080 super comes out if someone could get a card at a MSRP. But the 4080 Super may be the best bang for your buck card and the longest lasting GPU to hang onto for years to come as a 4k Gaming GPU. I still have my 3080 and it still games great at 4k with triple A games. Can't wait to see your breakdown on the 4080 super and if it will be worth upgrading from the 3080 for 4k gaming and editing
I upgraded from a 1080 to a 1440 ultrawide a few years back, so the 4070 ti super is probably the best card for a 2k gaming experience, I would assume.
Great rundown in this. I really wish some board jockey put something up that shows a mod that can boost the wattage. Even if it is just to 300 watts. Maybe also a mod to offload power usage from fans and RGB.
I mean you could just water cool it. . . or pull the fans off the header on the board and use an extension to a fan controller or mobo header. You can do the same with the RGB. It would be a frankenstein experiment but still doable.
Most won't show the "shunt mod" in detail - they will talk about it, but given the power involved, most will not want to be responsible for the resulting fires... ;-)
@ChrisDowns No fires if done rIght. But most won't do it because then Daddy Nvidia will remove early access and trips to trade shows. Mods like these are fairly easy once they are pinpointed. I miss the days of slashdot and actually not being afraid when the GUI crashes because people still know how to use command line.
@@Ladioz depends on which model you buy, I have a sapphire nitro and I have it as max as I can possibly go. 980mv undervolt, 2600 mem, 15% power limit, and 3200 boost clock. I have the fans set to max 60% and it always runs cool and quiet, fans don't even kick on until 2 hours or so. It gets me roughly 16% more performance across all games I play. Its almost 4070 ti level for $540 is what I paid
The best thing about 7800XT is that it barely gets hot, the same with 7700XT. both are designed so well. However I would go for the 2 fan card, to be more silent and spread less heat in the case@@braxfl7462
@@braxfl7462 same. I have the 7800 xt gigabyte oc, temperatures don't get above 60, and rarely even hits that. Mainly floating between 50-56. I'm also going blow for blow with the 4070 ti, even beating it in some games. I'll take that for $300 less. Im also using the fsr3 md, and I'm getting the same ray tracing performance as the 4070 in cyberpunk. The 7800xt overclocked is crazy crazy value.
I mean. We got Asus here trying to upcharge a 4070 ti Super 150 bucks for a 100 MHz overclock... Or Zotac upcharging 40 dollars for 15 MHz. Could use some Buyer Beware videos as well as the fun OC videos...
I guess ASUS didn't get the memo that these GPU's have been overpriced, and even $800 is alot and we are trying to get back to normal here. That's a red flag for me with ASUS, I like them, but noted that they are gouging minimal gains. I'll go AMD if this keeps up.
i wish so badly i could go AMD but i use Nvidia broadcoast all the time so its a deal breaker. (and no there is no free alternative) I'm jealous of those who don't feel tied down by Nvidias features.@@stever7638
@@potatoskins8155 AMD will likely address the ray tracing with the 5000 series, and with RT being a small factor along with Nvidea not having a huge presence with RT, makes AMD look more viable. Sure Nvidea does RT in a somewhat, mild acceptable manner...they surely don't make games playable under $800..so why bother. I will surely boycott the current price gougers, as a 7900 XT or even the XTX is very future proof at 1440P. Who cares about max settings, 16X AA at 4K? Turn AA down to 2X or off and just about every card works at 1440P above $300 w/o RT.
I'm looking to jump from an Rx 6950 xt to a 4080s but I'm re-watching the vids for 4070 ti super also as there's only about max 15% difference, I just need a it more guidance tbh, I've also been told by a couple of people you may as well wait for the 5070/5080 to come out but I'm not sure what to do
I have this exact card and so I'm thinking I'm completely safe to essentially follow the steps shown and hopefully achieve a very similar stable overclock? I have a 5600x CPU.
Every game engine is different, you may have a stable OC in some titles, then suddenly you play another title that utilize the GPU in a different way and it crashes. I'd say it takes about a week to OC a card, add a few more days for every different game engine you use.
It's quite far in terms of core counts, but since it's the power limit that defines the number of actual active cores on a given load... Base 4080 is at 320W so might be quite constrained already. 9:35 I hate that. I just want to define that maximum stable clock and yet my card will always find situations where it goes higher and crashes, so I have to give up a few bins margin.
I was looking at the Gigabyte Aero OC for 1189$ CAD (1343$ after 13% tax). Msrp of the 4080S is 1344$ CAD which has about 175$ tax. I think for 175$ id be stupid to not go for the 4080S
The point of overclocking has really dropped off for any meaningful use in day to day gamer use. The increases are minor, even with some real effort and now with render scaling tech the need is diminished further as a software setting can get better performance uplift for gaming without any of the overclocking downsides like increased power, heat, more cost for cooling and so on. Further even if you do overclock the ability to approach the next level with your over clock, (a 4070 to 4080 level as noted) has all but vanished. If you want to over clock for fun and to see what you can do, more power to you. If you just want to game then there is no reason for overclocking.
Ok, so on more modern cards overclocking your gpu isn’t making much of a difference. But is it still worth it downloading afterburner and maxing out the power slider?
So far according to PCB shots from TechPowerUp, even though the 4070 Ti Super is using AD103 it's still using the 4070 Ti PCBs, not 4080 PCBs. Why would they? They're not allowing it to reach the same wattage as a 4080, so it wouldn't require any additional power handling. It's important to keep in mind if you're thinking of putting a water block on a 4070 Ti Super. They're going to use 4070 Ti water blocks, what little of them there are ...
not gonna lie im with the ending statment. i dont have fun overclocking anymore. i had fun overclocking my 1070 back when i built my first computer. but with my 3070ti. just doing a simple +100 it would work fine in timespy, but randomly crash in a few min of lies of p gameplay at 1440p. and the +100 didnt even get me that much more performance.
What I like about your OC trials is the amount of knowledge you have and how you explain it to the users. Even if I like to undervoltage to prevent those insane power usages.
Hi daniel
Undervolting is only necessary if temps are getting too high for your liking..for example, Core i9-series or even laptops benefit much more from undervolting than an RTX 4070 Ti Super that's already below 70ºC lol.
You can use the strix bios to add 366w power to overclock even more.
Hope you're feeling healthier, wish you the best recovery. Loved the video.
What the OP said goes ditto from Down Under mate.
... and from across the ditch in NZ hehe 🐑
There was nothing wrong with him. You all fall for the trap out because he knows how ignorant and gullible most individuals are. The man uploaded a picture of a arm at a clinic. He did this during the pandemic when his viewership were going down because he didn't know how to pivot from doing PC builds during the GPU shortage.
@@disguiseddv8ant486 How far outta your ass did you pull that comment from?
@@DeadOmenz Not far at all. It was right on the edge.
Bruh this is one of the best overclocking video I've seen and it was mainly about the 4070TI than overclocking.
This almost has 1070Ti vibes when people overclocked them and basically had 1080 performance.
its not rly a big gain with the OC. my 6800xt got about 5-10fps with an OC same with my 2070 got about 3-8fps
I remember certain lines of the rtx2000 series had vastly different mem speeds based on the manufacturer. I remember my zotac extereme whatever 2070 had significantly faster mem speed than all but 2 or 3 other 2070 cards which were near the same. Those specific cards could get really close to the 2070 super base time spy scores.
only overclocking vram makes difference
I'm still rocking my 1070ti but it is starting to degrade. I've lost about 75mhz of stable overclock in the past 2 years but I'm pumped to the 4070ti super or maybe wait for next gen see how it goes
@@hairychesticles1yeah gains aren’t as big now. I squeezed 8% out of my 4090 with a memory OC. My 1080ti could get more and older gpus were much easier. Manufacturers know how much they can get and they push it as far as they can while having it work on every card
This was your best gpu overclock tutorial by far. Thank you! You made it make so much sense.
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Does anyone remember the Sapphire X800GTO2 from back in the day? You could flash it to a full on X850XTPE, it would take CS:Source FPS from around 60, to around 120... just with a BIOS flash, and still had more room to overclock it beyond that.
Yea these are mythical stories now.
Yeah I agree with the other guy that's the type of stuff I wish would still be possible at least at some level
nVidia had a similar thing back in 2003 with their GeForce FX 5900-series.
You could make any of the following cards become the same as their top-model GeForce FX 5950 Ultra (256 MB)
after just a simple Bios flash:
GeForce FX 5900 Ultra (256 MB)
GeForce FX 5900 XT (128 MB)
GeForce FX 5900 SP (128 MB)
GeForce FX 5900 (128 MB)
For the 128 MB models, the improvement was very noticeable.
@@SuperConker That's nonsense. First of all, the 128MB would be gravely missed sooner or later. Secon, at least XT and ZT (what's SP?) hat much lower clocking memory, so you could never reach 5900-speeds. I don't know about the difference in 5900, 5900 Ultra and 5950 Ultra, though, could be the same, could be slightly different. And thirdly, at least XT and ZT had entirely different PCB and cooling systems so you could never reach the same clock as 5950 Ultra. I could imagine 5900 256MB being identical to 5900 Ultra.
All people saying "I OCed card x to level of card y!" always forget that card y could also be OCed in in 99,9% of cases would reach higher clocks than card x. Top tier cards often do not have as much headroom as certain lower tier models but overall clock always will be higher.
There might have been very few cases were you really got a downclocked top-tier card with a different name, like X800GTO² beeing a X850XT in disguise, but that always was intentional.
Because that was the intention of X800GTO², clearing the stock of R400-GPUs right beforce X1800-release. X800GTO², guaranteed to be unlockable to 16 pipes, were more expensive than regular X800GTO², which often were not unlockable, but this way sales were boosted by hopes of getting a cheap X850XT. If you were unlucky and your X800GTO was not unlockable, you would have been better of buying an X800XL for about the same price. If you were really unlucky you got one with not unluxckable R430-core and were stuck with 12 pipes AND low core clock, in essence a X800 256MB.
2:14 small correction, 4080 power limit is 320W (according to TechPowerUp) not 350W, so the difference is 35W not 65W, and also makes what Jay is doing (adding 10%) more compelling, because 10% of 285W is 28.5W, so almost as much as would be needed to match the 4080 tdp.
Who cares.
@@mikezappulla4092 The irony of you caring enough to comment.
@@mikezappulla4092 Don't be rude bro its free to be nice. I appreciated their comment :)
@@mikezappulla409265 Comments on JayZ Channel, all negative... You people never cease to annoy me.
@@josephroberts9815 Love that mindset.
You can overclock to get more clockspeed out of the 4070Ti Super , but you cannot overclock to get more L2 cache. 4080 has 64MB of L2 cache, 4070Ti Super has 48MB .
This might be reason why they cut the L2 tbh. It would have been too close to the 4080.
I didnt know they gut the cache...THAT makes all the sense why the 4070 ti is closer to the 4080 smh
IM calling BS, been mining with every card you can think of over the last 6 years, and your not pushing your memory 1250mhz, and your core clock.. and your Power limit 18 percent... which I dont think they even alow you too go past 110 on all the cards ive played with in the 4000 series... and your saying its increasing your temps by 2c.. your full of crap man im sorry.. just straight lies, maybe your getting plus 2c if you droped the power limit 18 percent.. which is possible unlike what you said.. and had your fans running 80-100 percent. post the data @@ElmorQuistin
@@ElmorQuistinso? His point still stands
4080 Super might be appealing if you could get it for $1k MSRP but at $1100-1200 it just starts to look stupid.
Off topic but saw your tweet...SOOOOOOOOOOOOO HAPPY It IS not the worse! Keep getting better bud!!!
If the fan power usage is a genuine concern, disconnect the fans from the card and connect them to a fan hub or similar (it's easy enough to get an adapter for this). Or just deshroud it and point a leaf blower at the card.
Might not be the biggest improvements..
I still enjoyed the video and the explaination!
Thanks Jay
Yeah I just bought one. I’m sick of waiting for the “perfect” card to come along. I want some 4K performance and overclocking headroom for under $1k
I couldn't hold out any longer. Bought a 3070 during the drought (don't ask) and this card checked off a lot of boxes for me at a good price.
@@dkindigsame I got my 3070 during the drought and didn't regret it then but ever since said I should have waited longer but my build was waiting for a GPU. I'm fairly happy but I've switched to a 34uw 1440p monitor and I play VR. So gonna maybe swoop the 4070s or 4070ti super. Can't decide if pay the extra like 250 for 4gb more of vram or not
@@str8ripn881 I don't know if the extra 4GB is worth it. Ti Super is a beast at anything 1440 you can throw at it. I've been running 4k with it for a while (dlss quality for a couple of titles) and it's doing pretty good at that too. From what I've seen Super and Ti Super performance is VERY close. In Starfield at 4k with a 60GB HD texture pack: 10.5GB vram used. If you're not going to ray-trace or path-trace the extra vram doesn't seem to be a plus.
I don't know if the extra 4GB is worth it. Ti Super is a beast at anything 1440 you can throw at it. I've been running 4k with it for a while (dlss quality for a couple of titles) and it's doing pretty good at that too. From what I've seen Super and Ti Super performance is VERY close. In Starfield at 4k with a 60GB HD texture pack: 10.5GB vram used. If you're not going to ray-trace or path-trace the extra vram doesn't seem to be a plus.
@@dkindig yeah I play rpg and any single player typically with ray tracing on. Would like to try the path tracing of cyberpunk a little bit. But not a must. I'm kinda concerned with VR performance but I do think I may save some money and just get a Super for this rig sell my 3070. Then I'm gonna plan on a full new build around a late 50series super card or keep the 3070 to put back in current rig then do new cpu with pcie5 ddr5 stuff with the 4070super. Who knows may keep this next card with current rig til the 60series for a full build if the 4070super ends up playing with the 1440p ultrawide and pcvr well enough
My overclocking these days on nvidia cards, is slide up the power slider as far as it will go and lock the fan speed at 75-80% wack +150 on the core +1000 on memory then call it a day. i havent ran into a 20/30/40 series card that cant do that.
and u wont even get much out of it lol
Been watching for years, seen several videos of you Oc'ing, but I really liked this. Some how this gave me a way better understanding. This form, but now show us some practical OC for CPU.
I dunno, think I'll wait for the RTX 4070Ti Super Duper WTF BBQ edition.
4090 Ultra Pro Max Noob Edition
Insta buy!!!
I just got used 4070 ti cool ranch used 3.99
Awesome. I was literally looking for this analysis. I would like to see more comparisons in 4k though
Its not meant to be for 4k
The RTX 4080 is 320w, not 350w. 350w might be for a factory OC model like a Strix. 10% ontop of the 4070ti Super is 313w, which isn't that far off from the Founder's Edition RTX 4080.
If you have the zotac trinity black you can flash rog strix bios to get 366w so you can push it farther
Guessing it's the same for the white model ?
@No_trout_about_it not sure there's a youtube video for it.
I have the crappy msi ventus version but i was able to hit 3000mhz core clock at +190 and keep memory at +1800 for a 1500mhz peak in the memory speed stable.
Love that you got sponsored by Falcon Northwest. That's super cool :D
I love you 💗
Jesus "6 seconds ago" i need a life.
Ping diff
Is that a problem?
I'm with you. Lol
Better than not being able to watch videos until the end of your 14 hour shift lol
You think He games?
What's this? 17:27
I planned on getting this card, this kinda just makes even more happy I waited as long as I have for a new build
This is like the best value Nvidia card to get right now. Overclocked 4080 performance with 16GB vram to not have to buy a new card next year.
I am waiting for a 4080 super FE
Peasant : OC to gain FPS.
Aristrocrat: OC to brag each other expensive card.
Thanks Jay for doing this alot of us appreciate it!
It's interesting. But surely the 4080 can also overclock by a similar amount.
@@formulaic78 I am hopeing that people will be able to Bios update teh TI Super Plus Ultra to "See" it as a 4080
@@formulaic78 obviously, if you already have a 4080. But if you're looking to buy a new GPU now, you'd be brain-dead to buy a 4080
I would love to see you guys do some voltage mods on 4k Series cards
How can he incrase power limit to 110% ? Mine can only go to 100% in afterburner
That was a great video, short, to the point, very informative. THX :)
dollar per frame the 4070 ti super was an easy buy for me. couldn't rationalize the price jump to 4080 even without any oc on the ti super.
100%
really enjoy these OC vids, thanks Jay
THIS is what I've been waiting for.
Initially I was so stoked to get a 4070ti super, but the reviews rly made me go "meh".
However I always wondered whether this thing might be an OC beast
What GPU do you have now? I have a 1080ti and I can't wait to upgrade to the 4070ti super next week!
@@sevenstars0711or have a look to see if the Rx 7900xt prices drop, it would be a better option and better value
I've had mine for about two months now and I'm getting ready to go in and do a serious run at OC, currently have been running DX12 at +120 clock, +1000 mem, clock running pretty consistently at around 2940, and getting performance within just a few frames of a base 4080 at 1440p. Definitely worth it for the savings. Hoping I can find a way to manually bump up voltage and push it further. Temps are excellent!
I remember getting my gtx275 sc for under $300, maybe nearer $250. I used to think of upgrading my gpu as buying a new console. I justified the price because I was going to get a step up in the graphics. If I wanted to splurge, I'd spend near a grand and get a whole new pc build. Now it's $800 just for the card!?! That's crazy stupid. After stupidly buying a 2080 ti, and then never using it(the switch released) I am not buying another new pc build until my pc flat out does not boot. Console gaming is now all I do exclusively. I can afford these new cards, but it's the principle of it that gets me. I'm not supporting this model anymore, when I can just get a ps5(which I haven't done until these survival horror games come out) and a new TV for the price of a gpu. I still keep up on pc gaming though.
Alternatively, get a used card after a new generation comes out.
I'll think about a 40 series once they hit eBay for a fraction of the price, if at all.
(Consider a much better tv though,OLED really is that good)
This is a modern way to over clock gpus to run up to the maximum.
It takes time but you can dial in the over clock in the curve editor.
Tbis is the way to optimize the gpu at each voltage bin.
I watch the temps, mv, and mhz during the bench mark and dial in the top points then interpolate down to my 2d base clocks.
I have found this helps if power limit and voltage limit drop tbe mv down but the mhz stays up and causes a crash.
Exactly. Gotta tune the Voltage curve.
it doesnt really help 40 series from what i have seen
@@bborbit doesn’t
What about the stability test in Port Royal? Benchmarks tends to run fine, but frames rendered often fails that on high clocks. I'm running a 4070Ti.
I think you might have misspoke near the beginning... The RTX 4080 is 320W TDP, not 350.. Now subscribed. Really enjoy your vids. Thanks!
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I have a 4080, no melted cables.
Interesting to know that Port Royal importance regarding RT. Coincidentally I just finished the 2nd time of undervolting and "overclocking" my RTX 3070 and used Heaven for it.
I think since I went for undervolting that shouldn't be a huge issue, but I also don't play any RT Titles at the moment. The Stock settings of the Asus Dual OC 3070 are just so terrible, you can't just plug and play it. Not much performance and the stock temperatures are horrible.
Managed to get the Card from a 1.06V @1775 ( 1875 Mhz ) to a stable 0.9V @ 1935Mhz. Probably could push it further, but already super happy with it that way.
Temps in my most played game dropped by 10°C, less power draw, same performance ( locked fps ) and so much more quiet. Haha.
Love messing around with the hardware. So much fun.
How are you able to get +110 power limit?
Great to see Falcon NW come on board as a sponsor.
Such a good video with the step by steps and explanations. Sometimes you just need that kinda reminder again that it takes time and small steps
I have MSI 4080 Super OC and it is already overclocked. When I boost some clock for GPU and memory 250/500, I get about 4% boost, which is not noticeable. Rendering the same file in Davinci is getting boost from 9m 12s to 8m 50s. But would rather have more stable system than trying to gain more than 4-5% in performance boost.
You can set the V/F in the curve chart what are you talking about? Lock your V/F curve to 1075mv 1100mv isn't even safe for the memory controller. Transient loads greater than 125mv @ 1075mv will exceed the 1.2v which nvidia purposefully hardcaps.
You need to use the beta version of MSI afterburner to get the voltage control for these new super cards
I did some good experimentation (mostly synthetics as well as one esports game, Asphalt 9 running at 500+fps) and posted my findings on the nvidia subreddit.
I have a 4070 ti zotac amp holo, which allows my slider +20% power. This made a huge difference and I was able to comfortably get memory clocks to 12501 stable, by maxing out the slider in afterburner. I also got the core stable to 3030mhz with a +258 increase.
These results put it roughly halfway between the 7900xtx and 4080 according to your previous testing. And put it far above the 4070 Ti. I do still feel the power limit HEAVILY even at this point though so I'd love to see what a custom vbios or other mod could do for this card.
Asphalt 9 as an esports game?? What
@@harrygeoffrion4520 hahaha it absolutely is one
the 16 gb on the 4070 is great for our office application which needs extra vram, i could see this card being great for students as well who are messing around with modeling type software and need the vram but cant spend a lot, i think people are writing this card off but it actually has a huge use case. My office cant spend 2k on a 4090 but 700 bucks for a 4070 is amazing.
That's where m at I'm making a career change into 3d animation (or hoping to) and so there's no way I can justify a 4090, but the VRAM cache on this card is EXAXTLY what I need for my unreal scenes, at a price I can just about manage.
@@matthewward1346 If your worried about 2k on 24GB on a 4090 go with the 3090 24GB for just $600 in the used market. Although the 4070Ti Super 16GB performs much better then the 3090 with better power efficiency as well.
So hypothetically Could you wire the gpu fans to the motherboard instead to get more power headroom for the core?
Yes, as long as you had enough headroom (full load amps) from that device providing power. Whether it’s a mobo header or fan hub supplying the power.
Not a hypothetical - ive done this myself! Had a Zotac 3070 that came with a 2 fan shroud. I removed the shroud and stock fans and ty-rapped 2 120mm Noctuas to the heat sink and used a 1 to 2 PWM splitter to allow 2 fans to plug into 1 4pin header on motherboard. When I did this without touching anything else I got about a 50 MHz boost avg just running stock.
However there was a downside - cant set fans to ramp up and down based off of GPU core temp or hotspot temp as those settings arent exposed in my motherboard (or most mobos I think) So I had to use 3rd party software in windows to control the fans based off GPU core temps.
I also tried using the 2 noctuas with 2 into 1 splitter then going into a mini PWM header - the kind that the fans connect too on the GPU. Looks like a 4 pin PWM header just a lot smaller. I thought doing this I would be able to run my own fans and the GPU would see them as its own and thus id be able to set the fans to ramp using GPU temps just like normal. However, I found out that the header could not supply enough current to spin both my Noctuas at full speed. They have a 2000 rpm top speed roughly and I cant remmeber the exact number as this was a few years ago but I believe the highest I could get them to go was 1200 or 1400 rpm which would have negated any cooling benefit putting these non OEM fans on would have given me!
TLDR: Yes you can and you will gain additional headroom for OC or a lower operating temp at the same fan speed, but need 3rd party fan control software to control fans based off GPU temps
You could almost definitely get more gains with lower temps by tuning the voltage curve. 👍
No voltage curve. 👎
It lowers secret clocks/shuts off core clusters in the background and lowers performance with Ada architecture. It works wonders on my 3090, but those days are over.
@@Aurummorituri Ah. I've seen people saying it doesn't work on the 4000 series. That's annoying.
@@802Garage You can lower your power draw and temps, but it's no longer "free". To be fair it is not as essential as it was on the 30-series. That Samsung 8nm process is hella power hungry. 3090 performance differed greatly if you had a model with two or three 8-pin connectors. My FTW3 could pull 480W past 2GHz with a dirty OC. Undervolting dropped it to 450W max with most games under 420W and still hold 2Ghz. Ada Lovelace is much more power efficient.
@@Aurummorituri Thanks for the info!
Nice work Jay, great demo of OCing Nvidia cards. RTX4000 cards are stuck to +5% max OC, like here. AMD 7800XT, 7900XT/XTX, all seem to go +15% if the cooler is up to it, so extremely good for raster, but obviously, they take a hit when it comes to RT, but that's no secret.
Very informative. Thank you.
Time to test if a 4080 Bios will work on this lol
Yeah, that would be a great test
Bios flash and increased power limits and bam cheap[er] 4080
maybe 16 pin 4070 can work with 4070 s bios?
going to use Gfrad on my GPU once it arrives. see what type of perfomance increases i can get.
was thinking the exact same thing.
Brilliant! Only video that actually make a use of A103 die, Tremendous help, Thx!
Timestamp: 14:00
Why do you say that GDDR6X is ECC memory? It is not.
Jay is right...this card will go down as the sweet spot 40 series card. Glad you can now get 16 gigs of ram in the 70 bin. You could get 16 at launch with the 60ti, but with a memory subsystem that couldn't fully realize the buffer.
70 bin?
Dude this is $800 MSRP.
Don't get fooled by numbers written on the box.
LMAO, no it won't. This is a $800 card that gets outperformed by a $650 AMD card.
Remember that in 2020 $699 got you a 3080, which offered 50% more performance than the outgoing top card (2080 Ti). Meanwhile, this shitbox card gets like 15% more performance than the 3090 and is like 26% faster than a 3080.
The sweet spot for the 40-series is buy a 4090 or buy AMD.
I agree the 4000 series are all a scam only the 4090 is good rest pricy and low preformenc go amd or 4090 or w8 a bit more and get a 5000 series
So what's to keep someone from modding the vbios to raise the power limits so you can achieve 4080 level performance?
Nothing really, you don't even need to mod anything just get a 4070tiS with a higher power limit.
By your logic where the fans take from the overall power limit isnt a waterblock the better option for overclocking here?
It's negligible either way
@@VndNvwYvvSvv that's the same story of the life of the 4070 ti super
burnt a card doing this. it had the really strange effect of sort of seeing through walls. The other players would be slightly visible due to some sort of rendering issue. Lot of static though, but did still run.
You burnt a card because you ignored every warning. Hopefully you learned from this experience and haven’t kept playing a game while there were visual bugs.
That's on you.
Your benchmark for 4080 in horizon 5 got 148 fps at 1440p. There’s something up there. Different settings or game was patched
I am wondering how the Asus rog strix 4070 TI Super will do in overclocking. I believe the powerlimit is 366 watts wich would bring it much closer to a 4080 then the reference models.
For me a couple % more or less is not important as i value the power saving and temps and low acoustics over some extra fps with more heat and noise.
Thanks for the knowledge bombs on this video.
For a brief moment, i thought WOW Jay can manage to go through a whole video without a car analogy, but damn i was wrong
heres me trying to buy a decent 4070 ti super yet youtube videos are bumping up the prices for reailers
You can see the tgp in gpuz under the advanced tab after selecting vbios in the pull down. Also unlocking voltage control is usually a pain with afterburner not that it would be helpful with the power limit
Thanks Jay, great video.
Edited: Because so many missed the point and thought I was upset about overclocking. Overclocking wasn't the point, the fact Nvidia screwed over consumers and board partners with overpriced smaller cut down GPU is!
The 4070 Ti Super is what the 4070 Ti should have been all along. The 4070 Ti original should have been a 4070, and the 4070 original should have been a 4060 Ti. Ever since Nvidia released the 40 series and people saw the vast gap between the 4080 and 4090, anyone who could do math knew the 4080 was missing specs. Especially when they tried releasing two versions of the 4080 where both had specs lower than they should be.
Now the 4070 Ti Super is what the unreleased 4080 12gb was (Same exact die, same exact GPU specifications with slightly higher clocks). The 4080 original should have had what the 4080 super is going to have to begin with, again...based off math of how typical die counts are. Projected over a year ago in comments that the 4080 should have at the very least been 10240 to begin with.
Now they are releasing 'Super' badge cards with expected specifications, and on top of it they are doing it at either the same price or less than the original cards price.
I only upgraded because my 1080 bit the dust after lasting the last 5 years. I was originally going to go AMD, but went with the 4080 because it ended up being less than a $100 more than the 7900 XTX I was going to get due to being an 'open box.' I hate that AMD isn't willing to fight to compare apples to apples with Nvidia, cause it just leaves them able to screw consumers more just like Intel used to before Ryzen was a thing.
You can overclock 4080 and get same 5% improvement
@@whitecrowuk575 Ah yes, the 'Let's disregard the point with another point that is an entirely different point.'
I can overclock my 4080, you're right, but I shouldn't have to. These are specifications that the cards should have came with originally without needing a 'super' badge. Especially since via past releases 'Ti' versions were usually always cut-down version of higher GPU (IE xx80 Ti were usually cut back xx90/titan cards, xx70 Ti were cut back xx80, so on and so forth).
The first clue about the fact something was fishy, was the fact nvidia tried to sell two different 4080 cards that had distinctly different specifications. Not only did this stink to high hell, but people noticed that the higher end 4080 seemed to be incredibly cut back from the 4090's 16384 cuda to a surprisingly low 9728, which for 1200 made no sense as it should have been at least 10240 with a Ti expected to be around 12~13000 range.
Then the laughable lower end 4080 was unreleased and oddly had the same cuda/GPU code as the now 4070 Ti Super.
TL;DR The point is, Nvidia purpose sold further cut back GPU die to make more money. Very scummy thing for them to do. The worst part is, sadly AMD did the same exact thing with their 7000 Series cards which is one of the reasons why they aren't much better than their 6000 predecessors. This isn't something consumers should be ok with asn is now the second time Nvidia has done this after having a 'Good' series release, they follow it up with a 'Scummy' series where they do a lot of shady manipulation of specs and marketing to make money back. Thus far, 20 and 40 series have been Scummy bull crappery like this.
@@Kitkat5335 so you complaining about overclocked 70tis getting close to 4080 stock? What kind of nonsense is this. Those are new cards, new cards are faster. Will you complain in a year that 5070 is faster than yours 4080?
@@whitecrowuk575 Wow, I'm amazed at how people missed the god damn point. The point AGAIN, is that they released lower spec cards for more money only to turn around and release "super" badged cards with the expected specs for the same or less money. They effectively screwed over the consumer, and to some degree board partners, just to make more money of lower spec cards.
If you aren't going to read the entire comment, then don't bother responding as you end up putting your foot in your mouth.
@@Kitkat5335 I think problem is when you make long comment and put across multiple points some of which are off.
Sure Nvidia should’ve released them at the launch which would be a bit more sensible value I agree but them are testing waters and people buying those cards which offer poor value very much are the problem. So many could moan at you that you did buy awful value 4080 and hence reinforced Nvidia in their pricing strategy.
Can you overclock the 7900 XT next? From what I understand it has quite a bit of OC headroom and the Adrenalin software is a joy to use.
im just getting a cheap pny 4070ti super, figure it’ll last me another 6-7 years now that my 1070ti is giving out
Arent the 2 pcie cables capable of only 300w max? you had 305w probably the crash was due to overpower protection from the PSU (i hope) or it can melt everything back there
Great video Jay 💚
Jay the statement of the 4070 Ti Super being the best value overall card, I don't think it will still be true once the 4080 super comes out if someone could get a card at a MSRP. But the 4080 Super may be the best bang for your buck card and the longest lasting GPU to hang onto for years to come as a 4k Gaming GPU. I still have my 3080 and it still games great at 4k with triple A games. Can't wait to see your breakdown on the 4080 super and if it will be worth upgrading from the 3080 for 4k gaming and editing
I upgraded from a 1080 to a 1440 ultrawide a few years back, so the 4070 ti super is probably the best card for a 2k gaming experience, I would assume.
Looking good Jay. Hopefully, everything is looking up. Sending good vibes your way.
He literally look the same before, during, and after he said it. What happened to Nick and Phil doing the reviews?
Great rundown in this.
I really wish some board jockey put something up that shows a mod that can boost the wattage. Even if it is just to 300 watts.
Maybe also a mod to offload power usage from fans and RGB.
I mean you could just water cool it. . . or pull the fans off the header on the board and use an extension to a fan controller or mobo header. You can do the same with the RGB. It would be a frankenstein experiment but still doable.
Most won't show the "shunt mod" in detail - they will talk about it, but given the power involved, most will not want to be responsible for the resulting fires... ;-)
@ChrisDowns No fires if done rIght. But most won't do it because then Daddy Nvidia will remove early access and trips to trade shows. Mods like these are fairly easy once they are pinpointed.
I miss the days of slashdot and actually not being afraid when the GUI crashes because people still know how to use command line.
You havent unlocked voltage monitoring in the afterburner settings......
The 7800XT can overclock a lot for a modern GPU, upwards of 14-18%.
Yeah but then it will use too much power. Better keep it at stock and cap frames. It will run cooler and quiet
@@Ladioz depends on which model you buy, I have a sapphire nitro and I have it as max as I can possibly go. 980mv undervolt, 2600 mem, 15% power limit, and 3200 boost clock. I have the fans set to max 60% and it always runs cool and quiet, fans don't even kick on until 2 hours or so. It gets me roughly 16% more performance across all games I play. Its almost 4070 ti level for $540 is what I paid
@@Ladioz The rx 7800XT consumes less than the rtx 4070 Ti.
The best thing about 7800XT is that it barely gets hot, the same with 7700XT. both are designed so well. However I would go for the 2 fan card, to be more silent and spread less heat in the case@@braxfl7462
@@braxfl7462 same. I have the 7800 xt gigabyte oc, temperatures don't get above 60, and rarely even hits that. Mainly floating between 50-56. I'm also going blow for blow with the 4070 ti, even beating it in some games. I'll take that for $300 less. Im also using the fsr3 md, and I'm getting the same ray tracing performance as the 4070 in cyberpunk. The 7800xt overclocked is crazy crazy value.
Mine boosts to 3000 occasional but usually 2985 stable at 68c and 58% fan speed
I mean. We got Asus here trying to upcharge a 4070 ti Super 150 bucks for a 100 MHz overclock...
Or Zotac upcharging 40 dollars for 15 MHz.
Could use some Buyer Beware videos as well as the fun OC videos...
I guess ASUS didn't get the memo that these GPU's have been overpriced, and even $800 is alot and we are trying to get back to normal here.
That's a red flag for me with ASUS, I like them, but noted that they are gouging minimal gains. I'll go AMD if this keeps up.
i wish so badly i could go AMD but i use Nvidia broadcoast all the time so its a deal breaker. (and no there is no free alternative)
I'm jealous of those who don't feel tied down by Nvidias features.@@stever7638
The Asus TUF is MSRP at Microcenter.
Yeah in the UK there are some 4070ti super cards selling going for £940 😂 you can buy a 7900xtx for that money
@@potatoskins8155 AMD will likely address the ray tracing with the 5000 series, and with RT being a small factor along with Nvidea not having a huge presence with RT, makes AMD look more viable.
Sure Nvidea does RT in a somewhat, mild acceptable manner...they surely don't make games playable under $800..so why bother.
I will surely boycott the current price gougers, as a 7900 XT or even the XTX is very future proof at 1440P.
Who cares about max settings, 16X AA at 4K?
Turn AA down to 2X or off and just about every card works at 1440P above $300 w/o RT.
Jay overclocking content lets gooo
Improvement yes and thank you for making the video. But to me 8fps just isn’t worth the extra heat and time it takes to find the max oc ❤
Appreciate the info 👍
What is the software you monitor the power limits? Is it built into Afterburner?
As this has the 4080 chip I knew Jay was going to make this video. Was wondering this since the rumors of the specs for this card
I'm looking to jump from an Rx 6950 xt to a 4080s but I'm re-watching the vids for 4070 ti super also as there's only about max 15% difference, I just need a it more guidance tbh, I've also been told by a couple of people you may as well wait for the 5070/5080 to come out but I'm not sure what to do
If it was 599 I'd call it sweet spot. At 799 it's still very expensive and rather underwhelming...
Just curious same test 4K with same card where would fps land? Currently 4080 is about $500 higher so thinking not worth it?
I have this exact card and so I'm thinking I'm completely safe to essentially follow the steps shown and hopefully achieve a very similar stable overclock? I have a 5600x CPU.
Every game engine is different, you may have a stable OC in some titles, then suddenly you play another title that utilize the GPU in a different way and it crashes.
I'd say it takes about a week to OC a card, add a few more days for every different game engine you use.
Real
Could you power the fans externally to gain some few more watts out of the overclock? Or will the card refuse to work with no fans connected?🤔
I forgot how much I love your over clocking videos
It's quite far in terms of core counts, but since it's the power limit that defines the number of actual active cores on a given load...
Base 4080 is at 320W so might be quite constrained already.
9:35 I hate that. I just want to define that maximum stable clock and yet my card will always find situations where it goes higher and crashes, so I have to give up a few bins margin.
I was looking at the Gigabyte Aero OC for 1189$ CAD (1343$ after 13% tax). Msrp of the 4080S is 1344$ CAD which has about 175$ tax. I think for 175$ id be stupid to not go for the 4080S
Can you post links to all of the benchmark tools you use?
This is a video I wanted to see!
The point of overclocking has really dropped off for any meaningful use in day to day gamer use. The increases are minor, even with some real effort and now with render scaling tech the need is diminished further as a software setting can get better performance uplift for gaming without any of the overclocking downsides like increased power, heat, more cost for cooling and so on.
Further even if you do overclock the ability to approach the next level with your over clock, (a 4070 to 4080 level as noted) has all but vanished. If you want to over clock for fun and to see what you can do, more power to you. If you just want to game then there is no reason for overclocking.
running the 4070ti super on a corsair 750e with only 2 pcie can i overclock worried the psu not up to it
This was a great video jay keep it up!
Ok, so on more modern cards overclocking your gpu isn’t making much of a difference. But is it still worth it downloading afterburner and maxing out the power slider?
How do you enable the power limit over the 100% on afterburner like that?
So far according to PCB shots from TechPowerUp, even though the 4070 Ti Super is using AD103 it's still using the 4070 Ti PCBs, not 4080 PCBs. Why would they? They're not allowing it to reach the same wattage as a 4080, so it wouldn't require any additional power handling.
It's important to keep in mind if you're thinking of putting a water block on a 4070 Ti Super. They're going to use 4070 Ti water blocks, what little of them there are ...
Surely some of the partner brands have some models that reach at least the stock 320W of the 4080.
Sir awesome videos.. Sooo if you add a liquid cooled card will that help to OC these even more?
not gonna lie im with the ending statment. i dont have fun overclocking anymore. i had fun overclocking my 1070 back when i built my first computer. but with my 3070ti. just doing a simple +100 it would work fine in timespy, but randomly crash in a few min of lies of p gameplay at 1440p. and the +100 didnt even get me that much more performance.
You probably had one of the models not designed for overclocking.
I can only go about +150 +500 on my 3070ti FE and it’s honestly not even worth the extra power consumption of almost 300w total