PC vs Console in 2024... time to ditch PC?
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- Опубліковано 31 бер 2024
- Is it time to just ditch PC gaming all together and get a console? This argument has been going on for decades, but is it finally time? Let's discuss...
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Just wait for PC2. Gonna be sweet.
That was supposed to be the IBM PS/2 .
That's the neat part, we don't need it, PC always evolves and you can do how you want, how much the upgrade or how much you want to spent, unlike console, you gotta submit to whatever console manufacturers want.
I'm on PC10 already.
But does it satisfy the GN X factor...
PC PRO is going to be awesome.
only way I go back to console is if they stop making PCs
My man 👊
Same here. Consoles are too locked down for me to be able to tinker with.
or if thay change input to mnk
Same here.
I think most of them do support mnk now. Games with crossplay sometimes show mnk as the input for console players. @@unlikerex5475
Let me save you 20 minutes. It’s not time to ditch the pc.
Ever.
😂😂😂 thank u but pc will be forever ❤
Is the steam deck any good?
I'll embrace PC gaming the day physical games are no longer avaliable. It's the only reason I'm sticking to consoles.
Best reason not to ditch the PC? Squadron 42 coming this year, or 2025.
It's a mental hygiene thing for me. After 6 hours of office work on a computer, a pc is the last thing I want to look at.
I agree with you, during pandemic all I did was being in front of a computer and I own a PC with low specs and I know I can upgrade and I will, but I need something specifically to play, just that, that’s why I think I might be buying a console, anyway have a good day my friend
I will say this. With the amount of games I bought on steam on sale, I probably made up for the cost of my PC tenfold vs a console.
Exactly, this needs to be more at the forefront of such discussions. Not just cheaper, you also never need to re-buy your games on future hardware generations.
@@seeibe When you buy new console, you can keep the old one if you want to play old games.
You buy pc games?
Don't forget on consoles you need a subscription to even play any games online.
@@McGeezlebecause steam sales are awesome... personally I buy from steam only because I know the likely hood of steam shutting doors are alot less likely then companies like epic games.
One big reason I love pc gaming is the fact a lot of games have greater longevity via modding.
And if you’re short on money, you can always get a pirated version until you have the chance to support the game
@@Iesous27 and chances are you can buy them at a huge discount as sales on PC are far more prevalent and at a higher discount.
And I can play a game from the PS2 Days without changing consoles or generations... PC "1.0" playable from the noughties to the present.
Was just going to mention the MODing on PC's. I have both a PC and a PS4 but enjoy my PC more.
@Iesous27 thanks for the drm
Why pick sides, just pick what works best for you and is what you want.
People have money limits and enjoy batting for teams. Why do aliens in human skin seem to not understand people like competition?
The problem is consoles have far less games than PC
true.
if you mostly just wanna play games that are also on consoles.. just get a console.
If you like playing games that are exclusive on PC. or you also do other stuff like Photo/video editing which require a strong PC. just stick with PC.
PC has all the sides so no need to pick.
Honestly though, PC defiantly has its perks with more game variety, but can also do a lot of things a Console can’t. But if you Lena casual gamer consoles are still goated. For 500$ you can play games and have fun. I swapped to PC just becuase console game variety was mid for the last couple years.
Console:
1. Ability to resell games and buy used games
2. Lower price and easier initial setup.
3. No compatibility or system requirement guesswork
4. Clear separation between work and play.
5. Collection display
PC:
1: Game Bundles
2. Control over parts and programs
3: Mods
4. Better but not perfect ability to carry games forward across systems
5. Easier to use for other tasks.
PC: gaming is bonus, you can do anything on it. Console: can only do gaming lmao
Steam's refund program is the best in gaming which is a big perk on PC. I've never understood buying a game if you're just going to sell it. If that's the case, you might as well sub to Game Pass. Also, if you buy a prebuilt pc, there's nothing any more difficult about the setup than a console. Nor is there any compatibility guess work. It's not difficult to figure out what a suitable gaming pc is for what you kind of experience you want.
@@cronyan I disagree. On PC gaming is a luxury that you have to opt in to when you buy your laptop. On a console gaming and the associated performance is certain. There are some laptops out there that have under 100gb of hard drive space and 4gb of ram. You are not sure to be able to install and run The Witcher 3 for example.
@@mulatdood I played witcher 3 on my PC from 2013 that got a GPU upgrade in 2016.
PC gaming is cheaper on the long run and better quality (performance, graphics, usabillity etc).
Console may be lower priced but for multiplayer games you’re paying a subscription on a monthly basis.
Days of reselling games will be over in five years or less. Retail stores like Best Buy are eliminating physical media.
For me, the killer PC app is adblocker. I haven't willingly watched an ad (outside of the cinema) for around 20 years. I live an ad-free life.
Yeah, I have the adblock-trifecta: pi-hole, adblocker, and a browser with a built-in adblocker (and on top of that, I pay for a family plan of YT Premium)
Me too, and I grew up without TV (only VHS)
Same.
Facts, and I'm always surprised a lot of people don't know about it and when I see ads on other people's machines 😮
There is such a thing? 😲😲😲🤦♂️
You hit the nail on the head there. Having a "gaming PC" is so much more than gaming for me. I get endless amounts of joy tinkering and planning my next upgrades.
Absolutely, same for me. It's also about the mechanical and upgrading that I get a stiffy for
And with a gaming PC, you have everything on one machine. If you own a console, it's highly likely you'll also own either a laptop or basic PC too for other stuff.
That is exactly why a console could be better someone else...
I'm not interested in getting a CS degree to be able to do all that shit.
I'm here to game. Not tinker. So lol no thanks
6:33 You can build a good pc for around 500$ with a ryzen 3600 and a 5700xt (or maybe even 6650xt, 6700) if you buy the cpu and gpu used
Do you think the NVIDIA shield pro is still worth it? I have a conputer, but some games I want to play on the TV, which you (and i) recommend against. Unfortunately, those games that i want to play are in my steam account. I have a lg c3 2023, so it has built in game streaming as well, though i havent used it very much.
I'm old enough to get tired of this console vs PC thing.
I have both of them and I appreciate them.
Fuckin A. There's so many reasons to own either/or. It's annoying and needs to go away.
PC MASTER RACE
have a Switch and have a PC, like... as far as I'm concerned, as long as you know what you are getting into, and you are making the choice for the right reasons, more power to you. I don't like people that are just "Console better." no PC is better from an objective standpoint, but that doesn't mean that a console can't fill a specific need. if what you get with a PC is not needed, and you just want to play (approved) games and watch Netflix or CR, then get a console. if you like the idea of game pass get an xBox, if you like the features of PlayStation then get that. if you want portability get a switch, it doesn't matter. a PC will get you further, but a console isn't a bad choice at the end of the day if all you want to do is play video games and watch netflix.
I built a new PC, and bought a PS5 on the same day. Both are good. I prefer my PC, but PlayStation has games I really want to play
These types of video are more catered to those that are younger or live in conditions not allowing them to own both. These people usually have to make a decision that have consequences lasting years until they find themselves in a position to upgrade.
I’ve built many computers for myself and for others and I love it each time!
I don’t go as custom as you with the water cooling etc but I really enjoy it!
One missed PC advantage - big game library (GOG, Steam) and there are so many good indie games by the time you finish plying them the bigger titles will get cheaper. So if you don't care about plying games on day one, PC will save you money despite bigger initial cost.
Built my first PC when I was 15. Glad I started this hobby, it gave me money making skills that changed my life. I got into IT and now I'm a Network Engineer. All because I wanted to get into PC gaming.
Imagine if you had gotten into consoles instead...you'd be Louis Rossman now :)
can you become network engineer by getting certs or do you have to have a bachelor
you'd be an anomaly, most people waste thousands of dollars on what becomes a time sink that teaches them nothing besides how to install a few drivers
I'm a network engineer and I do as much gaming on console as possible.
@thestig007 exactly the same story with me as well, apart from I built my first PC when I was 10, it was out of my dads old parts he had left over after many upgrades 😅
I game on both PC and PS5, thats my preference. I’ll always have my PC build in one of the bedrooms, and one of the Consoles in the living room.
Same
I have Do the same except I have an Xbox Series X.
Both in the living room for me cause it’s easy to move my ps5 to the bedroom, just swap an hdmi and bring the power cord and my living room is bigger to accommodate my setup. Great system.
Same dont need an xbox with pc
Yeah pc and ps5 are the best combination
I’d choose PC over console for the wealth and breadth of games from 30 years ago to now.
They’re basically all playable, even if you have to jump through some hoops.
Also, they can be enhanced either with Nvidia control panel or with mods.
I love to be able to customise, even down to the thumb screws I use.
The faster FPS is a big one for me, playing games at 144hz is MUCH smoother than 60hz!
Yes.
why would I want to play games from 30 years ago lmao
@@Brandon-bc5umbecause some of those games are incredible and haven’t been remade or remastered.
Started with my old gtx 970 & i5 4460 and upgraded to a i7 4790 and a 1070 a little later on and it STILL baffles me on how well my system still holds up. I also play assetto corsa on 3x 21:9 monitors, soo consoles just don’t work me.
jay letting his daughter just come build a pc at work for fun is such a cool dad move!
So great to hear he supported her ambition & creativity
Am slowly changing out pc parts on gaming computer.
But honestly i want a dead silent mid range rig.
Kind of waiting for that arm desktop for that though.
Pc running Linux and a Steamdeck (or maybe Switch). What else would you need?
I got into PC gaming watching my father play stuff like Fallout, Baldur's Gate, and Half Life on the family computer. Just this last Christmas I upgraded his old tower, went from a 4690k and GTX 970 to a 7800X3D and a rescue 3090.
PC gamer since the Amiga 500 got retired, and until FPS games was ruined around 2005 or so.
Building PC since 700 mhz
@@pliashmuldbaLOL... FPS HAVE BEEN BETTER ON CONSOLES SINCE 1997.
@@PCGAMINGISDOGSHIT I mean First Person Shooters, i gamed on a 22" CRT with 200 FPS and 200 Hz back in the early 00s
@@pliashmuldba I ALSO MEAN FIRST PERSON SHOOTERS, THAT HAVE BEEN BETTER ON CONSOLES SINCE 1997.
@@PCGAMINGISDOGSHIT Not from what i have seen, actually i have not really seen a FPS game that even looked half interesting in the past 2 decades.
NO Battle royale for me.
No calling in stuff or weapon upgrade / skill tree
And no Medic stuff, jabbing yourself with needles or padding your self with kevlar ASO
And if it do not have Capture The Flag i am not interested, it must also have always run i can not bother with getting slowed down by stamina ASO.
What’s nice with the PC is you can still use it for work and everything else. Just get an Xbox controller you can plug in, and a 32 inch screen monitor. Also depending on your PC build, you can upgrade parts when new ones come out.
I work on a pc all day though so honestly I use my consoles in another room setup for games and movies and go back to my pc a bit on the weekend.
@@jd-py5nm A advantage of PC's for a lot of us is the building of it. Inspired by this channel I decided to do hard line water cooling.
When all the equipment arrived and I was surrounded by fittings and pipes and radiators and enough wiring to fit out the star ship enterprise I remember thinking
"This is that Jay's fault" But I'm glad I did it. It's part of the fun
if you hook up a keyboard and mouse to xbox you can do most everything you need to do as long as you can do it with a browser.
I use my pc for sim racing and music production, i also own a ps5 that i never use 😂
Less cheaters on consoles
My hp omen 15 was 1300 on sale but 1500 originally. So glad he said you'd wanna spend at least 1500 for a good PC. I was plan on starting around there. My omen kinda like a desktop as far as performance goes
I think I built a PC in the gold days: in 2017
It still holds up to this day. It does not run games in max, but it runs most of recent games with no issues.
I spent 1000$ or so back then
mine want even run windows 11 built it in 2016 it has a rtx570 ryzen 5 it could run SWbattlefront 2 at max but not now whent back to console
What's with putting the dollar sign on the wrong side of the number?
@@dfxjedi There is no right side of the number. It varies by region and language. After always makes more sense anyways, it's not Dollars 1000 its 1000 Dollars.
My current set up is a PC, PS5 and Switch. They all serve their own purpose in the end.
This is the way.
Could you name the game that's better on switch than emulated on PC?
I rest my case.
Considering Emulating switch games is illegal in most countries....I wouldn't say it's better.
@@armyxveteran Piracy is not the same thing as emulation.
It is not illegal to run games that you own.
@@pondracek its not illegal to emulate yes, but acquiring the roms to play the games through emulation involves either having the equipment to dump physical copies, which most people don't have, or pirating, which is illegal, even if you own a copy and think its your right to have a digital copy, still illegal. Not saying I agree with that, but thats how game companies see it
A deep insight of the current PC Gaming scene for a Monday April 1st.
Was seriously expecting an April Fools video on this topic
@@TsengtheTurk LOL I was quite shocked to read that Nvidia had bought the XBox production rights from Microsoft yesterday, until I saw what day it was.
I have a omen hp 15 2020 Intel 300hz rtx 2060 i7. I love it. But ngl I've ben looking into getting an actual desktop for my streaming & studio & save the laptop for on the go. Having said that anyone have both and are the experience the same to you? The laptop vs desktop experience. This is my second laptop, I have an all-in-1, but never had a desktop. Clicked that link in description i liked what i saw from NZXT👀😬
I'm creating my pc I played for about 10 years on pley my pc will be about 5,000 dollars in parts what do you think
most of us voting for PC is because we all have multiple purposes of pc not just gaming .yt, work, twitch, editing movies,. multiple screens. and so on..
Console keyboard and mouse support? No, okay no.
@@antipathy17Xbox and PlayStation both have keyboard and mouse support
PC + PS5 or XBox
Nobody says it has to be one or the other.
The reason why many choose console is because they already sit front of the desc during work hours, paying bills etc. so when they wanna relax and enjoy gaming it's much nicer to lie or sit comfortably on the couch and relax. Also console you can take with you where ever you go, pc u cant. Console is also easier, just put it on and play... no playing endlessly with settings before u are good to play.
@@susanna8612 I understand what you're saying but PCs are just as portable if you get a smaller case and you can also play a PC on a TV and use an Xbox controller
I think the experience of playing on a console with a very restricted UI vs a custom PC with all the bells and whistles + modding support + ad blockers etc makes the argument a lot harder and it depends on if you're simply a "gamer" or a "PC enthusiast"
This🎯now what about laptops lol
@@jamerv777smerflaptops are basically the same but with limited upgrade capabilities and shorter lifespans.
Also no mandatory subscription to play online.
@@kurgan1291 lol now this is an underrated 1
@admontblanc heard. Lol but I'd argue TF outta that shorter life span point. Maybe in terms of like performance but there's things to improve depending on your use and how you take care of it externally. For example my first laptop I still have its Toshiba Satellite 15in quad core amd 8 vision radeon 32gig ram with a recently installed 512 SSD replacing the HDD. Not as powerful as my omen but good as new. Been having it since 2013. Omen since 2020
I have an older Gaming pc I built. Also have an Xbox series x. I could max out upgrades on my pc to run warzone 2 at around 90-100fps average on high settings for about $300 buying used parts on Facebook. How much different would there be from my series x with like 110-120fps. Kinda want to do it just to see the difference. Would render distance be better? Or would the game seem smoother even though it’s a lower fps? How much smoother the series x was from my Xbox one on Caldera was a massively better experience.
Ive been playing more on my steam deck than my pc lately. They can be had pretty cheap now. If you dont mind rhe lcd model
I own a computer and both consoles. And I have to say computers have benefits but price is out of control.
The price of pc gaming just isnt worth it like it was 20 years ago.
Very much true. The fact that a console killer PC price during the ps3/xbox360 & ps4/xbox x/s era was with new parts versus now which requires used pricing is depressing.
I can remember when a decent mid level PC cost LESS than an X-Box or PlayStation. The late 2000s and early 2010's was the golden age for PC gaming entry.
If you're on a budget when it comes to PC, you kind of have to think out of the box, I went on AliExpress, and got a somewhat oddball Chinese Erying MATX Mobo with an included a Intel Core I9 12900H( yes it's originally a laptop chip but it's 14 cores/20 threads with a 5Ghz turbo boost) that cost me less buying a mobo, and CPU separate close to the specs.
Also the used market, or if you're willing to get your hands dirty, and have access to the e-waste bin at your local recycle drop off, you can sometimes find some decent gear that with some basic upgrades can still game, and do daily PC task.
I literally just built my 5 year old nephew a basic gaming PC for Minecraft(Classic Cube on Linux so no MS account needed) out of an HP e-waste system with an Intel Core i7-2600s, 16GB DDR3 RAM, 500GB SSD, and an old AMD R7 350 2GB GPU I had in the parts bin doing nothing, so for his age and the basic game he plays it does fine on a 1080p 75hz monitor, even if I have to drop it down to 720p in game, as he's happy as can be.
I am the same, and agree price is getting crazy, but the mid gen refresh by Sony looks lime its going to be expensive not that I'm going there. The ps5 promised so much but didn't really deliver and now they're saying the ps5 pro going to get it done, but will it? I know my pc does.
I gave XSX a try 2021-2024. Got a new PC recently to replace it. Honestly, if you're not a PC nerd, a console is a non-brainer. But I have that enthusiast bug and it won't ever leave. I just like top of the line tech when it comes to gaming, but I don't need it. Most people don't need it.
I'd still argue to get a PC even if you aren't a PC nerd. Most people already know how to use a PC, and PC doesn't require a subscription to play games online.
@KevDawg1992 the vast majority of people wa t sonething thats going to work out of the box a custom.oc isnt guareenteed to do that. That something pc cant seem to grasp.😊
@@digizilla164 buy a pre build if you really do not want to build your own. If you're close enough to one, go to Micro Center. The whole "the vast majority want something that works out of the box" argument doesn't really hold true nowadays. There's also the fact that there are far more PC gamers than console gamers combined.
Biggest part of consoles is they're convenient. That's it.
Yes, PCs are better, but so what?
Jay is right.
Once you build your first pc.
There's no going back.
I have built so many pc's
For myself for my friends and family.
And i'm thinking about building a new one again😅
But I also own consoles.
I have a PS4, xbox one x and xbox series x.
$1500 for a good PC that will last me years? The Steam deck is $300 and it's a great PC that'll last me years. Powers and visuals aren't number one - things like the available pool of games, portability, and true ownership through DRM free gaming is WAY more important.
Consoles don't have word and excel. I'd rather the one box do all the things.
Just to add "one more little thing" to the PC side ... What about the INFINITE amount of GAMES that ARE NOT on PS nor XBOX ? ... Yep, I think that's a real PLUS on the PC side. Thanks
Yep, also you can emulate older consoles on your PC so you have a huge library of games out there.
Honestly, you don't have the time to play all the interesting games out there anyway, so I think the point is kinda moot. Gaming is one of my primary hobbies, but it still takes me months to finish a single game.
On top of that, dont have to pay an online subscription just to play
this. There are entire genres that did not make it to the console space or are severely behind their PC counterpart. Factory games, grand strategies, tycoons, etc. Also so many awesome indies on PC and on top of that - game moding!
Why not own both...
"Don't hook it up to a TV"... Here I am sitting on a OLED 4k LG C2. Unless I want more than 120Hz or I'm just plan stupid and screen burn it I'M NEVER GOING BACK
Same
You’re having a better experience than most. Enjoy it my friend!
Same. Haven't used a monitor in years and my games look sick on my HDR 4k, especially if you have a powerful enough PC to run DLAA. It's damn near perfection 👍
We all game on 42in LG C2s as well. I will go back to a monitor eventually as I came from a Samsung Odyssey G9. After going OLED, I can never go back to anything else but I do miss ultraiwde/super ultrawide gaming and now they have pretty decent UW monitors that are not small. LG actually has a 42 inch ultrawide OLED out now but the C2 has been life changing. That was my first taste of OLED!
@@andrewsolis2988 you do know you can set up your lg oled to game using ultrawide res right ? i know its not quite the same, as your have black borders, still cool thou.
*Gaming on PC really is slowly becoming less useful. Consoles look great when you are 4K, on a huge screen, 6-18 feet away. But we will always need PCs to do office work and editing.*
When i boot up my ps5 or switch i tend to play more than i do on pc just because all i can really do is play games on those consoles while on pc i can watch yt, game, message people easily on discord, and then all the mods and launchers make it hard to just boot a game up and play.
now when everything becomes digital you would think the price of games would go down a bit since they dont need to spend money on discs but no the greedy companies just want more money 😭
That was what they said about outsourcing, said about digital music, then streaming services.... It is a lie
I've stopped buying AAA releases until they go on sale. The indie scene is way better value now
In reality they did go down as we're paying the same we did for games 30 + years ago and just recently with PS5 have we seen the 69 dollar price tag. the only reason we weren't paying 70 a game 10 years ago was because of it going digital.
@@dozilla77 lol, going digital has nothing to do with it as everything that's digital hasn't made things cheaper. It's more actually unless you get a sale or go to a third party place.
@@dozilla77Funny I remember buying Doom 2 on super Nintendo back when it came out for 70$, it was one of the most expensive games at the time. THe difference is we no longer need the catridges which were what made them so expensive. CDs and the like should have made it cheaper since they costed pennies each to produce and going digital costs them virtually nothing and even physical copies could just be cards like the Switch and only cost 20$ per unit and be bloated uncompressed files.
Honestly I don't care what platform some one plays on nowadays as long they enjoy the games they play
Ya, but once the ps5 exclusives get announced, prepare for some rage 😅
@@hvyarms4496 I don't get angry at all to be honest. there are still plenty of games to play regardless of platform
One thing I love about PC is that the longer you have it the more money you save. No Xbox Live/PS Plus subscription, every game you buy will be in your steam library forever and almost always remains compatible with new PC hardware, and lets not forget about Steam sales.
exactly.. mine is 18 years old.. 1300 games.. all the AAAs I ever wanted. For this reason, I bought a 4090 and a 83" LG OLED with 120hz gsync............ fkn amazing experience
This is a really interesting topic. I'm actually in this position myself currently. I built a pretty sweet PC about 10 years ago now for 2800 CAD and it's been able to tackle everything that's come out to acceptable quality for that time period. However heldivers 2 came out and my CPU is the exact CPU listed on the MINIMUM specs. I'm thinking if it can still play this game thats great but how much longer until a game comes out that I'm actually locked out of? So I've been toying with the idea of building a new PC (1500-2000$ prospect) or do I just go buy a PS5 and get back into that eco system for 1/3rd the cost? One of the reasons I sold my ps4 was the load times sucked compared to my PC and with limited time in my day I wanted to play PC more because of that. Now that load times are greatly reduced on ps5 it really is a tough decision. Plus call me a sucker but I do like the trophy system on playstation. All in all something I will continue to ponder
I am 25 and started watching your channel when I was probably around 16 years old. You single handedly ignited a passion for IT that I didn’t know that I had. After high school, I went to college and graduated with a degree in Cybersecurity and now work in the IT field. Thank you, Jay.
good for you wow! you should be proud of yourself thats impressive
proud of you freaky bro
Same hah
good for you but the real question is what's your rig specs
@@Alonne1 Lol ya ya! show us what youve learned from Jay2Cents!!! do u even have the Jay2cents AIO!!!!????
One thing I always tell people when they ask me about getting a PC is that yes, the price to enter is high but games are so often on sale that you end up saving so much money in the long run.
🙂 you get a free game every week at epic, next game is Outer Worlds and Thief
@@MrSamadolfo gamepass cost 10 bucks a month and comes with tripple a games on both systems.
PC where cheap 6 years ago that's absolutely not the case today.
Plus there are so many indie games that you just don't have access to on a console. It's well worth getting a budget PC just to have access to those.
having a PC is only expensive if you get all brand-new cutting edge parts. that's why PC building got stupid. people like jay keep telling you to upgrade to keep themselves relevant.
Another thing that can save you money on PC is not having to pay extra for online connectivity.
I'm a German car mechanic and PC building is right up my alley. I find PC building therapeutic and fun
Not just a car mechanic guys, a GERMAN car mechanic
You know what is even betteer than that, that feeling of when you undervolt your pc parts but still get the same performance, lower power draw and a cooler system. I undervolted my RTX 3050 8GB and it went from 105w-120w of power to 75w-85w and it performs the same as defualt and my temps barely exceed 60C. That is what makes pc fun.
let's point out that people from germany still watching these channels
not like a flachpfeife
@@SargentD4 that does mean something though...Those German cars...they last.
I speak German, yet I am not from Germany. where am I from? Unnecessary question, but I love messing with people. 😂
Which GPU on a pc is best for matchinjg a ps5 or series x? And which GPU beats these consoles? That's the bign question.. erspecially when GPUs alone are often more expensive than an entire console...
I would like to know the pros and cons of using a TV. I have a PC for gaming that I use with a Samsung 55 and 65 in. TV all the time. Just wondering?
I have a pretty busy life, so ive always loved just coming home, hanging with the fam and turning on the tv and ps5 and playing for an hour then shutting it off and not having to constantly adjust or upgrade.
Ive built 2 high end pcs now and cant stand upgrading it to play something. BUT i really enjoy the whole build process, its really fun.
I’m in the same boat
Same here. Sick to death of pc updating and patching. Plus pc cheaters ruin most games.
Was a die hard pc gamer in my teens, but I'm with you guys, I don't feel like tinkering as much anymore, the consoles are easy to just start and play.
Let me enlighten you. Steam deck.. waaaauauuuuu. Let that sink . 😂
Just don't upgrade?
Either way, you'll need to upgrade to whatever the newest console is, eventually.
I'm 58 and You and Paul were the ones that gave me the knowledge to build my first Gaming PC back in the vanilla WOW days. I've now built 5 with my latest being my first water-cooled system. Thanks.
Hell yeah old man
I was going to buy a Series S just to play some games then my boss gave me a massive 6800xt red devil and some seasonic 750w and a pair of RAM 16GB.. It was on mining for about a year. Im thinking of pairing it with a ryzen 5700x then some B550 board. Wat do u think?
The only thing I miss from a console is the interface. I have a 4090 connected to my TV, no mouse, no keyboard. Launches Playnite at start, it's nice but I do miss the slick interface :/
I work in IT, so I'm sick of tinkering and troubleshooting, so I have been playing console. I have a PS5 and Switch, plus some retro og consoles. You plug it in, and just play. I have young kids and its nice to play some couch co-op games without button mapping/configuring.
I am interested in a gaming PC, but when I really think about it, the PS5 does everything I need it to at the moment.
*_"I work in IT, so I'm sick of tinkering and troubleshooting, so I have been playing console"_*
I work in the IT for a very long time, and the fact that you constantly have to tinker and troubleshoot at home to get your PC to do what you want, tells me that you don't know a whole lot about computers, you're probably a web developer who is only good at coding.
@@JD99-zj3gqwhat a rude and unnecessary comment. Guess we found the guy in the office no one likes to work with.
@@kendrift6347
Is that why 2 people thumbed up my comment?
I'm not the one being rude, you're the one being rude by the way you talk.
I just said that I doubt his experience, because I can't imagine for even 1 second that someone who has been fixing computers as a professional would have to constantly tinker and troubleshoot to get his games working, when my daughter and son don't ever need my help (an experienced IT guy) to play their games they bought on Steam.
Stop being so oversensitive, and learn some manners.
@@kendrift6347 He wasn't being rude but truthful. I don't work at IT... And I rarely need to trouble shoot to get my games to work. For 99% of the time it just works. I pick up a controller, push the guide button to open Steam Big Picture Mode, select a game with my controller and play. Simple. All the games I play don't even need you to buttom map as games with controller support is plug and play. Games without controller support on Steam will automatically keybind the most popular binding to your controller so you can play the games without binding them yourself.
Emulation is also a one time setup and you can use BigBox app to launch games and emulators using your gamepad too on the sofa and it just works.
If someone like me who isn't in the IT field can do this without running into technical issues and the need for trouble shooting, then I expect this to be second nature to an IT guy.
@@JD99-zj3gq How isn't he valid in arguing that a console requires less tinkering than a PC, and if he's tired of it due to his work, it'd be a good alternative?
Assuming the worst about someone by saying "you don't know a whole lot about computers, you're probably a web developer who is only good at coding." does not invite a good discussion, rather the opposite.
You ain't kidding about that PC building itch! Built mine 2 Christmases ago and I still look at stuff daily.
I built 2 iAM4 systems n 2020. I want to build more.
I think this is the perfect example, some people like build more than the games..
*_"and I still look at stuff daily"_*
Daily? You're weird.
@JD99-zj3gq yip obsessed with the build not the actual application
The only game I care for on console is NHL and they just don't seem to want to release it for PC. And I refuse to buy a console after PS4. The wait continues.
Depends on what you can afford. A decent gaming rig costs atleast twice as much as a games console at the moment. Even a gpu upgrade is more expensive.
My old 2070 rig is still going strong, but most new releases I get on playstation now. Almost everything else I play on my steamdeck.
If all I was doing was gaming, sure Id go with a console. PC just has way more things to do and easier.
Helldivers being a PlayStation/Pc only is just so nice
And you can't do your taxes on a console.
I'll add to this and say. There's no fee for being able to play with your friends on pc like you don't have to pay a subscription to Xbox live or PlayStation Network
Thats what most people dont get, they only think of gaming while forgetting the million other things you can do
I still would pick a PC even if just gaming, you still have more options available from games to mods and all that, like even something as simple as making a old game feel new with shader mods that you wouldn't be able to do with a console.
I moved from console to PC in late 2015. Bought a Costco HP tower with a 6700 and put a 970 and PSU in it. The itch started. Realized I wanted a full custom PC so I restored the HP back to stock, returned it, and built one myself. The itch grew. Built a friend a photo editing PC that can play games. That turned into a few more friends wanting me to build them one. Nine years and at least two dozen builds later, PC building is a passion of mine. And Jay's channel is, in part, to thank for that.
Passion for gaming?
@@secularspectator That's probably a part of it, I became even more interested in gaming after learning how to build PCs. I can mod the games, I can mess with settings in those games, I can have a higher FOV, I can crank the settings to max or set them to the lowest settings for a huge fps gain and I can even max out my monitor's refresh rate at 165 hz by doing that and the games feel so much better and more responsive to play
@12:00 It does become addictive. I built my first PC last year and had an instant itch to do another one right away; Luckily my wife wanted her own PC as well after seeing mine which I built for her about a week later and much more efficiently lol.
I got a big tv and sound system. To game on that with a PC just feels odd to me. I gotta buy a tower and set it near the TV and go through all the settings with a mouse? Idk, I would need an entire team of people to figure all that out. I like to just turn my console on and play.
Literally recommended a customer of mine to your channel, this is honestly the perfect answer for every question he asked me. Hopefully he tunes in.
You know, years ago, I started watching your channel because I wanted to build a PC for gaming. I'm doing things I never thought I'd be doing. It really is an experience in itself.
I've had computers since the ZX Spectrum days. I also had consoles, NES, Mega Drive, Sega Saturn. They are all computers. The console is a very specialized computer for playing games. PCs are very versatile machines where you can do everything you can do digitally. You can play video games, develop software like Operating Systems (even those for consoles), games for PC, consoles and smartphones.
Basically everything that exists in digital format was produced using a computer (PC). PC is the architect of the digital world...
What no one talks about in PC is actual loading games. On Pc a lot of games crash. Uninstall reinstall etc
17 seconds in and I've already had a good chuckle "whether or not you should just say screw it with PC, and get a console *dramatic music*" straight into the sponsored segment about a gaming PC
So glad I wasn't the only one to notice this irony lol
I have an ad blocker so I didn't had to see the sponsor ad... 😝
Yup, same thought 😂
The PS5's audio tech is incredible. The controller and it's haptic feedback and adaptive triggers is amazing and brings more immersion to games (I'm aware that it's also available on PC for PS games that later came to PC). Also, PS5's HDR settings is really well done, unlike windows hdr which is complete crap. I'm a PC gamer and I also enjoy my PS5 for its exclusives.
This is very true, as a PC gamer and also a PS5 gamer there's a lot of one sided viewpoints here, to be expected on a PC channel. A lot of people are saying the games are stupidly expensive, but if you get PS+ there's almost no reason to be a single game... you get many hundreds of games, with dozens that are AAA quality and many are first party Sony titles as well! You can totally get away without buying a single game for the PS5
Wait, PS5 has exclusives?
@@mrlightwriterWhen will Gran Turismo 7 make its way into PC…just like the Horizon Forbidden West?
I usually play on xbox controller because I always had an xbox before I got into PC gaming. I just got one of the dualsense controllers and it's a great controller.
Hopefully it last longer than xbox controllers have been since the new controller model that launched with the series X I'm doing good to get over 3 months out of one before stick drift or broken button
@@unknownunknowns Everything is possible...you're telling me you know in advance those games will never have a pc version?
Would yall say the same experience apply for laptops? 🤔
I play all consoles on my PC.
"Don't hook up your PC to a TV" - and here's me with a 42" LG C3 that is a superior display to any monitor I've previously owned and costs less. Unless you play competitive esports and/or FPS games you don't need a 240Hz + monitor.
I also don't understand this quote!
I think it depends on your setup no? If I had a PC in my living room I'd for sure get a TV like that for it, but for at my desk anything more than like 27-32" is waaaayyy too big imo
Lol. I am also on a LG OLED. I switched from an Asus Proart 4K monitor which cost a shitload of money. And the LG is just perfect. Especially for gaming. But also streaming. Mounted it to my wall directly behind my desk. It’s just great.
But I like my 65 inch LG OLED. I ain't gonna go back to a small monitor, I'm too old and the eyes are getting weaker.
Same here man. I just pulled the trigger on a 55 inch C3 and oh my God it is so nice! Screw these monitors that are double the price.
Forgot to mention that for every 1 or 2 games that come out on console, there is about 15 that come out on PC. And a large amount of games on PC can be modded and tweeked into anything you want.
Yeah but most people don't even use PCs anymore, so building a whole PC that cost 3x what a console does makes no sense for those people.
AND they're usually cheaper via steam sales, key sites etc.
AWESOME.... NAME 1 SINGLE GREAT PC EXCLUSIVE. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@PCGAMINGISDOGSHIT having over 120FPS
@@bobbygetsbanned6049 The second part of your sentence is correct for some people, but I think more people are using computers then ever lol, especially post-pandemic.
"Dont hook it up to a tv!" But my C3 is 65". Even the Samsung Odyssey Ark is only 55.
I also don't understand this quote!
haha I just made the same comment for my C2
My experience has been good more stable Xbox system; however the PC gives me more options as far as mapping wheel buttons- despites the PC crashes - which does not occur as much on Xbox.
In the past year, I've built 3 of my friends pc's and mine and can say yes, it's addictive. It's satisfying to accomplish, especially when the first 2 had bumps in the road before I got em to post but those turned into learning experiences and worked well.
I'm a mechanical engineer, so I switch between AutoCAD, Steam, Gamepass, Netflix, and VR...can't do that on a console...
My reason as well. Console's just for entertainment, just that. PC can do a lot more, games go on sale a lot. Consoles can't run exe files, you can't develop applications there and emulators doesn't work.
@@ynsignia Almost true except on Xbox if you pay the nominal fee for the development kit or similar, you can emulate on it. Unless they removed it.
Anything work related probably not.
I have a mechanical engineering bachelor's degree and an electrical engineering master's degree. I work as a computer engineer, doing both computer hardware and software development. I also do that stuff as a hobby.
Same.
I remember building my first PC with my dad when it was i386 processors… I knew from that point on what I wanted to do in life. Fast forward what 30+ years and I’m a Director of IT that always said I don’t want to touch computers when I get home from work (was consoles only from Xbox 360-PS5). I started getting into your channel last year as well as GN and Der8auer… Got right back into building computers! It felt so nice working on desktops and not just enterprise level crap… I really appreciate everything you do for this community and 100% it can help guide people into a lifelong career!
I'm impressed. My first 'build' PC was a 486-66, and that was VERY early on in the PC building days.
@@kwbarron I was a very young kid… I just stood there and touched things while my dad put it all together from a local shop. He was an electrician and into that as well :) my first personal custom pc was much like yourself; a i486 tower. I believe I still have my 3dfx box that we put in that!
@@dbrown23 I remember the 4MB 3dfx add on card from back in the 90's. That was a real powerhouse back in the day. I had one of those in my Pentium 200 with (maybe) 16MB RAM. An absolute blast to build and play on.
My biggest reason for never switching is my library. I have 1000 games that some may disappear (The Crew) but most are mine forever.
Don't know where to post this--CCleaner seems to be becoming bloatware. I don't mind the 'cleaning' portion and updates, but what's with the cranked-up prices and features?
They did not say they are getting away from hardware. Sara Bond made a public announcement about this not too long ago.
People be misinformed or just spreading misinformation. They are definitely not going away from hardware.
The one thing you did not mention when considering price is over the life of a console, if you want to play online, you will spend another $500+ just for the "privilege" of online gaming. That is a major cost that many people seem to gloss over. PC gaming has been 100% free to play online for decades, and most likely will remain for decades to come. Two generations for consoles will have bled you around $1k JUST to play online, plus that much more for the last 2 generations of console. (ps4, ps5, xbox one, series x/s)
Yes as upthereuc mentioned "price of the services" over time AND I might add the price of games that generally are higher on consoles.
That's a good point. With pc, its just the cost of your internet provider
Which is doubly funny because the services they provide are just hosting the download servers for the games, all the "online" game play is locally hosted on the console.
Yup, I facepalm so hard when console gamers say PC gaming is too expensive. Like brother, I spent $700 on my PC in 2018, it still runs AAA games at 60fps in 2024 lol console gaming is way more expensive. $500 game box + $360 worth of Xbox Live and you’re already paying significantly more than me. Plus the games they buy are pretty much always full price.
@@charlesbrown4483 Console games go on sale just like Steam. I think more are offered on the console side actually, as I can't even remember the last time I bought a game for full price on console. You give it a month, and it starts going down. Same thing on PC. For people that have both, they really aren't all that different aside from a yearly cost to play competively.
I've acquired some knowledge and i am not claiming to be an expert at tinkering with PCs on the software or hardware side at all.
However i do agree with the other IT people in the comments about the convenience of a console vs fixing PC issues just to get it to work.
My relative built my personal gaming PC last year but didn't choose compatible parts which i just discovered recently. Been dealing with crashing issues, boot loops, random reboots, freezing, performance issues and ive been researching/tinkering for a whole damn year.
It got so bad to where i switch to my PlayStation or Xbox occasionally because of the issues I've been dealing with.
Great video..my friend was interested in switching to p.c
I'm going to send him this video..thank u
I jumped ship a couple months ago and bought a series x, my first console in over 15 years and I have to say it's been a fantastic experience. Quick resume is definitely the most underrated feature because I can sit down on the couch and within seconds be back into the game where I left off last weekend. I still love my PC for indie games but for the big game titles probably only going to be playing them on Xbox.
Quick resume is amazing but just resuming the game from last weekend isn't what it's for. You can do the same thing on PS5 (and PS4, and presumably Xbox One) and Switch and they don't have quick resume. Quick resume means you can play multiple games and easily switch between them. That's very important for game pass.
@@karlhendrikse I absolutely agree! Although that's not as big of a feature for me as like a quick launch situation.
30 fps at 900p is amazing imagine having 360 performance 19 years later
I've done exactly like you last year. Bought my first console, an xbox series X after so many years of gaming exclusively on PC and I don't regret. The games are cheaper than on PS5 and cheaper on website that sell game keys. I keep old gaming rig just for some shooters where the mouse and keyboard are better at shooting than the controller.
@@alexandrucoman1326 but more expensive than on PC
As much as I hate to admit it, PC ports of modern games have been so terrible lately that the appeal of something that mostly "just works" is much more grounded now.
Also the fact that you have some graphics options and customizability in the newer consoles helps
why i still use windows... but even then "it just works" isn't really holding that true anymore... so many annoyances. and bad directions.
PC ports of console games have gotten better, in the past they didnt even change the menus for mouse input
oh don't worry, those ports also run like garbage on consoles.... developers suddenly forgot the word optimization exists apparently
Guess I'll just leave this giant pile of uncompressed assets over here :^)@@jesusbarrera6916
I built my first PC in 2022 after buying both a Series X and PS5 and yeah, needless to say I'm done with console gaming and have gone all in on PC. It's just been such a blast expanding on the hobby with a newfound interest in components, peripherals, etc.
soo mostly it depens (in my opinion) on the group of friends you have.
i was a Pc gamer all my life but when I was 22 my friends gifted me a PS5 to join their console parties.
and it was the first console that was fast enough to let me forget my Pc and be fine with it.
tbh I needed to adapt to controller allot but nvmd
I still love PC and tech and I always use every excuse to screw with things and screw it open and stuff
but I would LOVE to but
I can only really switch back when everyone else does in my group of friends
i got bit by the bug back in 2016 with pc gaming while in the military. after i got out i got more into computer and how they work. started watching you and linus and now i have a whole new career in IT and plan to be a project manager one day.
Wishing you the best ♥️🙏🏻
as a builder myself, im very grateful for your videos. i know what im doing but im by no means a professional and i learn something new from your videos all the time. keep up the good work guys
Informative and im about to upgrade my pc,so im both but mainly console only im getting a new pc for video editing with only the i7-14700k cpu or some. But the freedom to later insert a gpu is awesome as the rest of the pc also is mostly newer components. I get that real immersive feel tho when i game on pc vs my consoles and feels sometimes more of a cockpit in lack of better word.But the easy way of just jump in from the couch on my console im glad i have. But thanks for sharing this all im saying! Informative,and yeah let’s bury the hatchet between the two camps now and get whatever you like👍
Biggest thing i miss from pc and playing on ps5 is not being able to use Mouse & Keyboard on it. Only a few games allow it, the kind of game's I dont play like COD etc
wait what? I am going to buy a ps5 and I thought mouse and keyboard support was universal across all games.
The only reason I'm considering ps5 for fps is to avoid cheaters on pc. This years cod release on pc has been absolute helllll. You can barely play ranked (in any rank) without coming against cheaters if your hidden mmr is higher than norm. I get a 1.2kd in ranked yet still see a .60wl thanks to me and my team losing pivotal moments to wall hacks. Far less cheaters on console with crossplay off.
And it's not just the big titles. Especially smaller ones with barely any players can be unplayable as every multiplayer you join has cheaters/bots that may even corrupt your save and the publishers/developers don't care at all. Then the moment you switch to console it's like a complete different game with things working as intended.
I own a pc but at the same time I own an Xbox because I don't have choice if I want to go on gta online. Pc version is full of modders and cheaters and I'm not up to spend countless hours when everything is obtainable in a matter of hours.
Good luck with that. Disabling cross play on certain games on console can make the matchmaking process take significantly longer.
@@opathoris not on mw3
@@opathoris can even break it too lol.
Since building my first PC about 2 years ago, I have convinced three of my friends to make the switch from console and helped them build their PC’s. Addicting hobby for sure!
I converted my room mate to PC and he only plays Warzone. I was playing in tournaments with him.
Your prefered controller and reWASD lets me play nearly any game on my HTPC
I built my own PC and will never go back to console as a result. My PC is made with a Z490 Godlike MB, Intel 12900k processor, 2 SLI bridged Nvidia 1070GTX graphics cards, 2TB ssd storage+1TB hard drive storage, 850W power supply, and 256GB ram. I plan on upgrading to the new Nvidia 4090GTX card and a 1000W power supply in August this year. Sorry to both Xbox and Sony they can't touch the power level of a PC. They are great for the price that they are but you can't do as much on them as the PC.
I just found your channel and I enjoy your videos. I have both a PC and a PS5. I love the fact that both accept external storage, but you didn't mention that a PC can run games off the external storage, where the PS5 can't, at least in my experience. You have a lot of videos, do you have one comparing Intel vs AMD processors for gaming? Also, Nvidia vs AMD graphics cards?
I became a software engineer out of a passion for building my gaming PC back when I was 10. My mom always motivated that because she knew it could lead to a career. We didn't have money to purchase parts, so I started fixing PCs to make my builds, and one thing led to another. I also know people who have been in a similar situation.
I often talk to parents who are afraid of the PC hobby, and I always tell them to direct their kids. Of course, as anything, it can become a bad thing. But if a kid is properly directed, a silly hobby can expand a myriad of career possibilities a few years later.
The possibilities a PC brings, the curiosity it attracts, and the problem-solving skills you have to develop, are things that cannot be neglected. On the other hand, a console is obviously just a console.
Anyways, I haven't played a single game for years now, but I still have a custom PC and refuse to work on laptops. I guess the passion is still there.
Edit: your channel has a great part on that. So thank you!
Some things that weren't mentioned:
- modding on PC is quite big
- on consoles, you have to pay extra for basic stuff like playing online or backing up your saves
also, internet/multiplayer is free on pc.
Not to Mention that some Mods for example Skyrim/Minecraft, actually cost money on Console while being free on PC and in most cases even look better.
Also I feel like the games last longer and are actually around to build communities. I’m still playing arma 3 today and that game is over 13 years old.
I am like you Jay, I have them both because as you said they both have there different uses. I own a custom built PC. with Ryzen 9 and ta PS 5.
It's wild that now at the age of 30 I can remember a time when literally NOBODY gave 2 shits about PC stuff. When I was in highschool not that long ago, we had MAYBE 6 of us that were into PC hardware and what not. Now a days everyone is into this, which is pretty damn cool. From taking apart my moms Dell apart in 2001 to where things are now, what a fun journey. Also, if you are into PC stuff and you are broke, just find shitty old PCs people/schools/businesses are throwing away and just tear them apart, swap parts from other machines play around with stuff. So much fun. PC building is just the best
😄 most of the sellers on craigslist are crazy what they are asking for their used PCs
I always had a PC and consoles both. When I was a kid, it was TI99/4A - a console and PC in one. Then it was Sega Master System and Genesis with a 386/DX and a Pentium... in the 6th generation, I didn't have a PC because so much good stuff was on consoles. Xbox, Dreamcast, PS2, NGC... truly a golden age. Now... there's just nothing. Just get a PC and maybe a Switch if you like the portability (and don't want a Steam Deck), and you're covered for pretty much everything worth playing.
I'm 43, and I remember a lot of PC only games through the 90s.
@@TheZoenGaming AOL MultiPlayer Battletech Solaris was the SHIT in the 90s... god i miss those days
@@xCaptainAroniousx One Must Fall.