I've NEVER had a PC fight me this hard before! UGH!
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Man this was a series of unfortunate events with really nice parts
seriously, i've planned it out i have everything I need.. everything he had wasn't what he needed it fought tooth and nail the whole step of the way. new rad, new mobo, needed 45 deg fittings, yikes!
@@JJiG how it goes sometimes. ya think you thought everything through and miss one measurement and it all goes to sheet.
beautiful pc case.. but just not wide enough for the EVGA water block (RIP excellent video card manufacture) .. I went with overkill Be Quiet Dark Base 900v2 ..it has tons of space inside and got it $100 off msrp for being a return item.. yay!!
The case was about 10% too small.
@@richardhswan8069 plane it lol
Even though this wasn't meant to be a guide, the tips shared throughout are priceless. Thanks Mr. TwoCents.
I think Two is his middle name.
looks like a guide how not too do
something. For sure he bent that pin doing that janky ''push this cooler on top of it''
It's good to see Jay complete a PC build in one video.
power cycle it again
This video is sooo much better than doing a stupid montage. Now we can see all the pain and trouble shooting you go through. As someone who is finishing up my own water cooled build it's nice to know that you can go through the same problems that I have gone through. I don't have a whole warehouse full of spare parts like you but still good to see. Keep this up. THIS is why I started following you for.
THIS!! Really enjoyed seeing all the things Jay went through to make this work. Honestly, I would have had a hard time with the tube angles myself being super ocd, but I'm glad he was ok with it. Speaking of being super ocd, when building something that doesn't turn out the way you like it and the customer is ok, it still drives me crazy that I could not make it perfect. I'm glad I just air cool my system. Even if just one fan failed or didn't work would cost many hours to replace. I've seen some really awesome water cooled systems but would never want to have to work on one.
So you're saying Phil's work... the time he puts into editing....stupid?
Bit of a insensitive comment don't you think?
@@K1Crawford his work isn't stupid the idea of a montage is. We want to watch the problems that come up and how he overcomes them, not just here's the final product. If we wanted to see that we would watch any other youtuber.
@@lazaroth84 you literally said montages are stupid and now that someone called you out on it especially with someone like Phil who's been putting in effort into making good looking montages you now move the goalpost to "the idea of a montage is stupid"
Incredible
@@biiyen8458 I stand by what i said. I think montages are stupid. I didnt say phils work is stupid just the idea of montages. you can say what you like but I will always want to watch the process rather than just a 5 second montage and the end result.
I would love to watch Jay build any pc, with any components, for whatever reason. Doesnt have to be a live-stream or no-cut/edit thing, its just so relaxing to sit back playing PC Building Simulator 2 (dam you Epic Games for buying the devs and making it Epic exclusive) and watching/listening to Jay narrate his building experiences in real time. Almost feels like Im building a PC with a buddy.
Seriously, more content like this, and I will be happy happy happy.
I would love to get his assistance on building mine, haha.. because he makes everything seem so easy - even when things go wrong.
I've built a few PCs before but never with a great case - and I didn't realize having such a modular and customizable case could actually be so overwhelming to start working on - because I actually feel pretty overwhelmed by it even when I'm not trying to do something in particular at this point in time. Jay can make even crazy builds look relatively easy.
great....yet another game I would've loved to play, but didn't even know it existed because it's Epic exclusive. They suck so much at this stuff
I try to live the peaceful life and not fight any of my electronic devices.
I fail at this a lot. Especially lately.
Some ED's are lusty rougues with an appetite for battle. Lol
John Conner said the same thing before Skynet went online.
In my experience, once the silicon based lifeforms understand that the screwdriver & soldering iron options are on the table, they're much more likely to behave properly
🤣🤣🤣👍💾
Thank you for the long format, its always nice to see the process and what goes wrong or right. No matter how many times you build there is always something more to learn.
Love how you are showing the problems and solutions. Your quote about how something always goes wrong is absolutely true. One issue I have is trying to "just finish" the project. It can be hard lesson to learn when its time to just step back and re-evaluate your options.
I have been VERY impressed with EKWB. I can get stuff from them in Slovenia faster than I can get stuff from 2 states away in the US. It really makes me wonder why the US companies haven't invested in better logistics. I have ordered full watercooling setups for EKWB in parts for close to a decade now it seems and never been disappointed.
Look up the Universal Postal Union and see why. In many cases it costs way more money to ship within the US vs international to the US. A lot of the countries like China can offer free shipping and fastest possible shipping at very low cost because rich nations like the US subsidizes it. Its really interesting when you read how countries like China keep themselves categorized as "developing nations" while sending spacecraft to Mars and the moon. Ultimately state to state in the US is expensive so companies shy away from the fastest options. Its not usually a logistics problem its usually a cost problem.
DHL Express is a huge factor, clearing customs quickly is their jam, and they typically carry only small packages that ship through airports
DHL handles most international shipping to/from the states that FedEx and UPS don't service directly so they handle significantly less mail. because of that they don't use centralized distribution centers like UPS and FedEx so they're able to deliver regionally which cuts down on shipping time. but i wish people would quit using DHL within the US though because they're just overpaying to ship through USPS.
@@boxlid214 DHL is the absolute king of express international shipping
They probably have, but muricans send so much stuff around the place they have to delay something.
Love these longer computer builds, so nice to see the hurdles other people have to overcome to finish a system!
I love this. I can't wait for videos like this to become a series with different cases. Struggling with complicated inter-brand designs always makes this frustrating when you branch away from that one brand and that one design to make something unique of your own.
Love this style of video. It’s so realistic and there is so much more to learn
This was my worst nightmare while I was planning my build. I checked every spec multiple times over to verify that everything would fit because I knew somehow that something wasn't going to work like I wanted it to, and I was just praying it wasn't something major.
Sure enough, I hadn't planned on how much space I'd need to hide excess cable length near the power supply, and that meant I had to remove the hard drive tray. Only I had planned to use that tray. Thankfully just a few days earlier I had decided to ditch the planned spinning drive in favor of a solid state and that meant all I had to do was attach the drive at the mounting points on the back of the motherboard mounting plate. Made cable routing a little tougher but I can't complain. By all means I got off easy.
I like the long format video. It makes me feel a little bit more normal putting together my builds 👍
These longer build out videos are informative and instructional. It helps people see what they be missing or what sizing they might need later down the line.
I like the longer format videos, because I’m collecting parts to embarks on my own water cooling project. This gives second hand knowledge of the issues folks run into.
Enjoying these build videos. I`m working up the courage to do my first water cooled build. Have mercy I`m an old retired fart !
Good luck on your first custom water cooling build! It's worth the trouble, so long as you maintain it. Just keep that in mind. I built a dual radiator workstation from the EVGA 1080 Ti Kingpin Hydro Copper release that still runs renders, and encodes 24/7 for days on end without getting anywhere near hot, and that's with an i7-6950X overclocked to 4GHz. As long as you flush and refill at regular intervals, you're golden, so remember to include a fill port, and a drain port, for your own sake. Godspeed grandpa Pete!
@@JeradBenge Cheers. My main ambition is to avoid flood based electrocution..... 😥
Fill water with mobo disconnected. You don't short anything if it leaks then.
@@jameskurk5668 Good tip cheers.
It’s really easy. You’d have to be really careless to get a leak.
I appreciate videos like this. It reminds me why I stick with good old fashioned air cooling.
Beautiful builds don’t come easy. The end result is so worth it thought
@@LexLutha unless you do ANYTHING wrong, then the result is multiple parts coocked.
@@Nobody-su9km it’s way easier than you think. All in ones have a better chance of leaking honestly. They are made with the cheapest parts possible.
@@LexLutha it isn't, and shouldn't be done by casual, stop spreading missinformation in regards of things that can literally kill new expensive parts.
It isn't easy at all to build.
@@Nobody-su9km lol ok dude. Everyone who water cools in the beginning is a casual. Are you saying to never try something new? You can live like that. My first loop wasn’t terribly difficult.
I feel like this was way better than a scripted guide or walk through. I have been building PC's for almost 20 years and almost always run in to some unforeseen issue, even on simple air cooled builds. Watching you work through the road blocks really illustrates some of the challenges with building a custom PC. Awesome video.
love the long format builds. love seeing the struggles and the work arounds, it shows what its really like, cause rarely is it smooth and perfect, its so more often you research till your brain mush , and still need to rethink, and rework.
I think I would have chosen to just lose the distroplate and go for a traditional pump reservoir mounted to the backside rad support which would have given you the top and bottom mount rad setup
And made it sensible to go parallel from cpu to gpu, which looks like it's perfectly aligned.
100% man.
shoulda got the o11 dynamic XL
If you water cooling then the XL should of been the first thing he looked at, obviously he did hardly any research into whether or not his parts would fit. I own the XL and know for a fact everything would of fit fine he bought it
@@cosmicgrim7963 same
I love these longer full videos with explanations Jay. Thank you! I'm trying to learn and understand because I'm scared of doing something wrong and it's been years since doing some of these in-depth stuff. So thank you. I appreciate being able to learn.
I appreciate seeing the grit and the process not just the shiny finished product. This was everything. I love these videos. We love you Jay. seriously your'e a rockstar in your own right.Never doubt that.
All the trial and tribulations you had here is exactly why I abandoned internal rads and went with the MO-RA3 420 external radiator and Koolance QD4s. Truly the Cadillac of radiators.
Man every nice to watch these builds again, always inspiring to watch what really happens when expectations dont go as planned, luckily he had Jay to help with his mastery of water cooling skills 🙏🙏🙏 very nice job.
im glad you did this video because i want to do a full custom loop someday and seeing how you approach these builds in a longer, more though out format helps me and im sure others, think of things we may not have thought of while getting ready for water cooling.
Yes, this is my jam, love this kind of video, there is always something to learn and it is satisfying to see a build slowly coming together, especially when problems have to be overcome.
Awesome video, really shows how planning doesn't always work out and then problem solving to get it all to work together. Love this kind of video mostly because been there myself and laughed when you pointed out the graphics card sticking out too far.
thx for the long format. seeing you bump in to small problem after small problem is gold. Experience is still the best teacher
Thanks Jay for making this video. Ironically I found a custom cooling build on an evo case and I’ve been trying to mimic it with my 4090 a month or so ago. This just helps me out even more. As always thanks for the awesome content 😊
love it, makes me feel better about the problems with my new build and getting things to work together.
Another excellent video, I like Phil's montage, but man seeing this kinda of thing is soo good! Learned a lot with this! I'm thinking in doing an open loop in a few years, and that kind of thing helps me to get ready for what could happen and how to solve things.
Thank you very much Jay!
You truly amaze me with each video on PC builds, as you show how take precautions along with how it is done properly!
Great video it's good to see some water cooling on your Chanel, seeing the battle you had makes me feel better about some of the problem solving I've had to do with some of my builds I've done in the past.
the case may have put up a fight but in the end it still looked nice and worked, sometimes got to enjoy the little wins we can get after series of unfortunate events. Well done Jay the system came out great and hope AJ enjoys his new rig. Loved the long video thanks Jay Phil and Nic keep up the good work.
This is my favorite video you've done in a while. Not saying your others are bad or anything, they're great, I just really enjoy watching you problem solve a build as it's happening- it's why I like liquid cooling
Thanks for this Jay! This is what actually happens with many custom watercooling builds. It's easy to watch the awesome montages from outfits like GGF Events and think, "Wow, that looks easy".
I enjoy watching build videos like this. I had many little problems pop up when I built into a 011 XL as well.
I am an oldschool 1985-2005 PC Builder. And after 15 years of Mac back to building a new PC. Your Channel helps me so good to come back in this. Thanks for your work !
This is imo one of Jays best videoes. Not because he got a lot of problem with the build. But because we get to see how he fixes those problems. I was all in for alle 33min!❤
Glad to see you making a hardline tube build video again. I just finished building mine just this past weekend after deciding to swap to an EK Reflection 2 Distribution block for the O11D XL. Swapped out to a 13900KS on a Asus Z790 Apex board. EK Velocity 2 CPU block and EK Velocity GPU 4090 ABP block FE edition as well. I feel your pain having to rethink planning out the loop, distribution plates somewhat confine your ability to route tubing, especially short length ones.
Just started to watch your videos. I really appreciate all you do and thank you for being honest. I wish the best for you and all the people who make these videos/content happen.
genuinely love this format of videos. please do builds like this, or anything.
Had to modify my own O11D chassis because of the glass too. Ended up frankenstiening a 90 degree mount for my own 3080. Wish i went with an O11D XL. Works great now that the hiccups have been sorted. Great video as always Jay.
Thanks Jay and team for a great video! I have the same case and remember there were A LOT of considerations when building a custom watercooled system in there with 2x 360 rads and distro plate, mainly the clearance of the bottom rad with the fittings of the GPU not interfering. I researched so much dimensions prior to the build just to make sure everything fit and it STILL didn't when I first attempted. I also noticed that the depth of the mobo area is not as tall as many cases so upgrading to a 4090 is out of the question(sticks out like that 3080) so I'll have buy a new case to build in if I do end up going 4090. Quite the learning experience.
Hi Jay, i worked on the exact same case, trying to fit dual rads with the exception that mine was a side mounted distro plate. Dual Rad was a must for me given the high end parts i was using. So i lifted the vertical gpu mount for clearance on the bottom rad. Adjusted the PCI E slots on the vertical bracket to the use the furthest 2 slots away from the cpu to create space. It was a really tight fit to get the 2 fittings on the cpu block, so i changed to soft black tubes.
This build is a very nice one indeed, your friend is a lucky man to have you as a friend. The challenges were worthwhile as it looks amazing and it seems to work as per the design.
Thanks this film. My case plan to set up this water cooling . This film help me.
I love this style of shoot, it's nice seeing the troubleshooting process.
More of these, please !
This build is DejaVu for what I went through the last two months getting mine built.
X570 Taichi
5800X3D Velocity2
7900XTX Limited Edition Red Devil
64 GB DDR4
O11D with the back and front distro
2 360mm Corsair Thicc Bois
Wound up mounting my two rads directly to the wooden table the PC sits on
LOL currently in the same boat with my 011 Dynamic razer adition, do to the power cables=no side panel. love video's where it's all about the "ugh well....shit that aint right"
loving the long format :D Good to see what you run into when building this.
definitely like the longer "explanation" format of the build(s)!
Love this “real world” video… you are the best mate to have to do a build! Swap this out Jay!! Thank you for a great build!!
I just got the Montech Sky Two case and loving it. It has great thermals and the fans look great. Easy to build with enough tie down points. I have the issue with the fan controller only going at 100% speed, but a quick email to Montech and they quickly responded that a new controller will be sent out. Would buy again.
Love this. Definitely awesome getting to see you build again . Cannot wait to see the progress on your pc. I’m currently building my first pc ever. After watching you for the last 9 years I’m finally trying it myself. Going from a ryzen fx cpu to the ryzen 9 7900x ❤
really do enjoy the build log style. i enjoy seeing the challenges of the build and you talking about how you overcame them. or were unable to. either way, its more interesting.maybe a phil montage for the actual tube bending though so we can still see you doing it.
My build with that same EVGA card in an O11D Mini ran into all the same issues. Glad to find out later it wasn't just me!
I love seeing these full builds and knowing I'm not the only one that runs into problems that makes it up to a week, if I can get parts fast, building one computer and seeing how Jay handles the problems that I run into as well, except if my parts don't work together, I have to wait until I get them online.
Finally! Someone besides me, I've been doing water cooling since 08, 09 maybe and this is the first time someone besides me said a radiator can provide passive cooling. Also, I have an 011D Evo airflow, no distribution plate, and I had a lot of hassles with this "easy to build in" case, I used all EK parts, ended up with a slim 360 in the bottom, a PE rad on top and hanging an FLT 240 rad/res from the top rad. I wanted the best airflow possible because I run Folding@home in the cold winter days and nights, putting full power on my Ryzen 5950x and EVGA 3080 in a full EK water block, I finally got it the way I wanted after changing the configuration multiple times but it runs fantastic now.
Now I'm building a personal gaming computer with EK parts in a Corsair 5000D airflow and running into problems making me wish I'd bought another 011D Evo. 🙄😂
Thanks for the long format on a difficult build!
I literally swapped to this exact case yesterday. I was debating to get the NZXT H9 Elite but it's too expensive so I ended up getting this one. I'm glad you made a video how to watercool in this case. I'll definitely use this video as a reference so I won't miss anything.
I love these style of videos over the montages, great video!
Good recovery on all those issues! But I can see from the condensation, the coolant is pretty warm even at mostly idle. I like my coolant 1-2°C over ambient max idling. And like 7°C over ambient full load.
Seeing these longer format videos where everything doesn't go perfectly, or at least the problems aren't cut out are really helpful. What would you have done if you couldn't replace the motherboard with another that had argb headers?
Loved this, felt like old school Jayz content. Like back in the bedroom office days.
It's quite true that you have always something unexpected. Last weekend I built a system for a friend of mine. A lian li evo with 360 galahad but the normal version (not sl120). He wanted to put 3 lian li infinity on the radiator on top while using the fans of the cooler in the side mount. That day we discovered that these fans are smooth where the screw should pass, so they were "optimized" them for the radiator. Long story short we zip-tied them to the side mount bracket, works flawless and are nice too (he loves this modding detail so it's ok)
I just learned a ton from this video! Thanks for the great content as always.
nice to see something not going perfect and showing it, can learn alot more from this video now, thanks
Feels like every build I’ve done recently run wise. I’m looking forward to doing a full matrix 7 build. Still super cool of you to help him out. 😊
Finally ordered what I thought would be last of the fittings needed for my loop but now I'm triple checking my list to avoid the headache. Love the longer form build videos
with fittings, you always should buy 1-2 extra of everything, just in case.
I know these videos are a ton of work vs shooting multiple videos in one day but thank you for this. It's much appreciated!!
Awesome video Jay! You make me feel more confident with doing a water cooling build myself from watching your videos!
I love these type of build videos so much! Not everything can be perfect nor should it be.
Really enjoy the longer format
Love the long format build logs! Reminds me of the good old days of youtube
Love this kind of content so much. Packs all the fun of building computers
i built in the pcmr version of this case, with same front distro and i vert mounted the gpu. i had to use 360 pe on top and 360se rear mounted with fans behind it( vert mount only allowed 120mm fans and my 10gb sfp+ nic). i also had to dremel the corner of io sheild to fit it with fittings. it was fighting me every part of the way, thanks for making me feel better...thought it was just me.
Enjoying the new longer format videos they are great and good entertainment.
Its a good video showing the problems you could encounter if you haven't thought about the parts you need and whether they go together, but the case just looks to small and everything looks to cramped together.
Love to see you build in the o11d, i have same case and had the exact same problems when doing custom loop
Nice looking build indeed . I had a thought on ram slots, 2 dummy sticks that just have the led and look of a stick just to fill it out .
I love the loop. It's super clean.
Very interesting! Although I must say, this reinforces my aversion to custom watercooling solutions (for myself). All the pipe routing headaches, risks of liquid spills/leaks, etc. just seems more than I'd prefer. I understand the allure of watercooling and that many others are really good at doing it so it's easy for them, but for me, I'll stick to air cooling and maybe AIO only if I have to.
Couldnt agree more. The pain of perfect planning and poor execution, due to "lack of proper" parts, is such a headache. Love the long format, please keep making em !! Greets from Germany
I love these long format videos!!
There are 3d print models online that extends the side window out to fit a 4090. It should definitely work for this build. You will have to replace the feet on the case with the 3d printed one.
Love these videos. Might want to check that drain port, it looked to be turned to the open position.
happy to see the montech sponsor ad after that video on the sky two case, nice! entertaining and useful tips as always in the vid jay :)
My JTC water block did not come with the preinstalled dirt but I did a quick RMA and they got that fixed up for me, great service
O11D XL... and still had issues with spacing too
Drain... I love the new EKWB drain, where it doesn't take as much room.
Also, EKWB has a pressure pump for pressurizing the parts and the loop for testing for leaks. Makes it easy to test!
15:12
I had that same exact problem with this case......
As you said, "Something always goes wrong"
I've been using this distro-plate since October 2021 in my build and it has been great. First time I've done any watercooling on a system and this made it really approachable (I guess that's the right term?).
Anyway, good stuff.
I love watching these videos they always calm me down.
This video was absolutely amazing.
Love these kind of videos. Real world struggles showing how to adapt and overcome.
I ran into the same issue using the EK distro plate. The pump is in the bottom right corner, so I could only run 2 fans on the bottom. Ended up running the rad in the side mount and filling the top and bottom with fans. Ran great, but I eventually moved my rig into a Phanteks Luxe2
Love the video hope you do more like this, this year. I personally would of done a thin rad on the side. Maybe not with fans on it. This way that big hole is filled and has some extra cooling. Granted only passive cooling, but cooling none the less. Also I know it is too late but you should look into the Bykski drain fittings. They have a really cool push/pull instead of a lever valve drain fitting. It has made some builds really easy. I have used it for a couple years and have had zero issues with it.
My absolute favorite kind of Jay video.