FS2020 - how to set up your Hat Switch to look around the cockpit freely!
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2020
- #FS2020 #Flightsim #Flightsimulatorcontrols
A fairly easy solution to use your Hat Switch on your controller, to look around the cockpit freely. - Ігри
Just wanted to let you know that I have also done the same thing with the external views which is cool. MSFS 2020 allows multiple bindings to any given button or control which FSX & Prepar3D didn't allow, so when you enter the new hat switch settings for external views, MSFS will tell you that there is already a function allocated and will show you what it is being the same interior view option as the exterior option you're adding. Just validate and continue - it works perfectly. (Don't forget to delete the old external hat switch allocations). I have done something similar with my Saitek/Logitech throttles. I have the quadrant that came with the yoke plus an extra quadrant. I have set it up for twin engine operation (2 x throttle, 2 x prop pitch & 2 x mixture). On the rare occasion I fly 4 engine aircraft, I have mapped engines 1 & 3 to throttle 1 and 2 & 4 to throttle 2 and so forth.
Those are brilliant tips and comments 👍
Even though this video is 3 years old, your video still saves me or other people for this problem. Thank you so much.
Great to hear it's still helpful.
Thank you! Crazy that the developers thought it was a good idea to use the HAT for anything other than looking around!
No problem!
You have no idea how valuable this video has been to me. I've had MS FS2020 since it came out and had tried all ways possible to make the hat switch pan the camera as you so well instruct here, tonight, for the first time I'm able to do just that. THANKS so much!
You're welcome!
Great advice and instruction, my blood pressure is already dropping and I’m swearing Less often! Thank you!
Now that's good to hear ;)
You should definitely be Knighted for this and get awarded the Order of FS2020. Thank you so much! For ever your humbled follower.
Wow, thanks!
After a recent world update my hat switch settings disappeared and this video help to rectify that problem. Thank you for being an asset and blessing to the community.
Thank you too, much appreciated 🙏
Great thank you for this tip, just what I needed!! Was frustrated I couldn't get it done myself. 3 days with this sim (V1.32.7.0) and am loving it, and now with the hat switch issue resolved, loving the views even more! New sub here! 👍 👍
Thanks and glad it was helpful 👍
This is a great tip! I've wanted to figure this out for a while, so thanks for the clear walk-through.
Glad it was helpful.
I’m thrilled to find your channel. By far, you explain everything the best on MSFS, and Thrustmaster Hotas One. Shame I’m not in the UK (love your country by the way, visited 6 times. I’m from Philadelphia) if only you could set up my system. Thank you for everything. Regards Jim
Incredible comment Jimmy & highly appreciated ;)
Just got FS2020 and wanted to know how to do this, thanks!
Happy flying 😊
Most welcome & Happy flying to you too!😊
You legend.....Not having the ability to look up while banking was stressing me out. Thanks for the video. Now i can air display accurately.
No problem 👍
Thank you for this! I've looked high and low. Great video!
Most welcome!
Thanks...great tutorial. Much appreciated. Happy 2021.👍✈️
Happy 2021 to you too! ;)
Absolute life saver .Thanks for the wonderful videos.
Thank you too!
many, many thanks- I never would've been able to figure it out by myself
You're very welcome.
Clear and straightforward Video. Many Thanks.
Thanks.
Thank you very much. Greetings from Long Island NY
Greeting and you're welcome Mark.
Thanks mate! works like a charm!!
Thx for the video I just downloaded MSFS2020 and I was struggling on how to set the HAT switch
Thanks so much. It worked perfect! I set it up on my A320 and it does the same on my C152. No need to do it on each aircraft. Awesome!
Great to hear!
Thank you, once again, for yet another very helpful video, Huddison!
My mistake was that I was successfully setting the 45 degree Hat positions as well as the L, R, U, & D positions. That was causing a problem.
You see, you CAN set the 45 degree positions for your Hat switch but you must be very careful and precise as you move the Hat switch to the 45-L, R, U, or D, positions. This can take a lot of patients and numerous attempts. I was able to do it but then, I found the commands impractical when flying.
One is not likely to be so precise or careful about moving the Hat switch to those exact points as they're flying and busy with other tasks. So, I missed that exact Hat placement and as a result, I wound up tripping the Hat-Left (or Right, Up, or Down, as the case may be), along with the 45 degree-Left.
This causes a mess in the views and it even happens when RELEASING the Hat switch from a selected 45 degree position, (if you were lucky enough to get it there). As the Hat switch is moving back to center, you can trip yet another Hat-Left or 45-Left command.
I see that you posted this quite some time ago. I only wish I would've found it sooner! LOL
Thanks again,
Rich
Exactly Rich, you really only practically need the L, R, U & D set for the freelook to work effectively.
Great explanation! Thanks.
You're welcome.
Great Video - It's about time that someone who's got a brain can make a simple explanation in 5 minutes. Thanks!
Much appreciated - thanks.
Well said.
Thank you for this video, I think I might actually enjoy MSFS now
Hope you enjoy it ;)
Extremely helpful video! Much appreciated ! Thank You!
No worries!
Fantastic!!! Thanks Huddison :-)
Absolute hero started my first flight and found is so frustrating with the camera not how it was on fsx and X plane and couldn't figure out how to set it up thankyou very much
Most welcome my friend 😉
Thank you for the class,just set up my alpha yoke
Nice
works perfect MANY THANKS!!!
Glad it helped!
Thank you so much for the help!
You're most welcome!
Thanks for easy to follow video
You're more than welcome.
you the man thanks this was what i was looking for
Great👍
Thank you thats what I been looking for
Great and you're most welcome!
This makes a big difference on xbox too. Thanks.
You're most welcome.
Again very helpful many thanks , ive passed your channel onto the North West Sim Group so hopefully a few new subscriptions ( and they will understand your accent )😊😊👍👍
😁Your closing comment made me smile & thanks:)
Great video. My angled left and right stuck the second time I put the input in. I didn't click on anything, just repeated the input and it worked each time. I am using the same yoke.
Ah brilliant, that's good to hear it does work.
I managed to get the combined directions on my logitec 3d Pro. You have to do one action at a time. For example to input up right: push the hat switch up and hold, then while pushing up then push to the right. The input will change from 'up' to 'up right' when you push right. Then really quickly just let go and it will hold
Brilliant info - thanks!
Well done. Thank you Sir.
Very welcome.
You can assign to look in those "cross" directions by manualy selecting the input from scroll down menu saying by default "Select an input", not by scanning the pushed button on your yoke/joystick.
Brilliant thanks!
I was about to reply the same after seeing this video, then just scrolled down to check so that i do not repeat. :-)
Well played Sir ✅
OMFG BROTHER THANK YOU SO MUCH I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO FIGURE THIS OUT FOREVER ......
No problem 👍
@@Huddison no if I can figure out why my plane wants to fly sideways with a hard over rudder all the time...lol
@@brianpruitt3081 Check my video on fixing drift issues.
ua-cam.com/video/2-2i9G5f3xc/v-deo.html
@@Huddison Thx i will test this tomorrow. I have the Hotas peddles, throttle and Stick
Vraiment génial, merci à vous !
You're most welcome!
Nice one, thanks for sharing. Subscribed.
Many thanks ;)
Great info, thanks
You're welcome.
Thank you thank you 🙏🏼
Most welcome.
Thank you!!!
Perfect, thank you :)
Happy flying ;)
You’re a hero
Thanks ;)
THANKS VERY MUCH
Good. Thank you!
Most welcome!
Thanks had not sussed that out but it is exactly the same as with FSUIPC . The dn/ rt etc are just as awkward .The give away is the input switch number
Yes absolutely!
Thanks a lot !
No worries
@Huddison For Down_Right/Left and Up_Right/Left, instead of scanning input by pressing keys, try selecting the input from the drop down below (labelled: Select an input)
Yes that works 👍
Thank you very much
You are welcome
Thank you!!
You're welcome!
Not sure how many ppl have chinned in but I found if you can stab the hat in the diagonal view you want to set it should catch it. I’m about to see if that helps any.
Edit I see there’s a drop down option where you can actually pick the exact hat direction to assign manually
Thank you! :D
No problem! ;)
Excellent! Could you please make a video on how to set the SENSITIVITY settings re dead zones, neutral zones, ect.
Thanks. I've covered dead zones and sensitivities in a couple of other videos - here's one for you:
ua-cam.com/video/HFw40R6IEIY/v-deo.html
You can select from the drop down menu as opposed to clicking the hat switch - Down-left or Down-Right
Correct
Thank you! It’s been driving me bananas…
Glad it helped!
the diagonal settings just select an input and scroll down to pov down_left ect ect, so you dont have to fiddle with the hat switch as your selecting it manually
Yes thanks, I've mentioned that in my latest video👍
THAAAAAAAAAANKS!! Finally
Magnífico 👏 👏
Thank you 😊
Thanks for this! Do you use rudder pedals with your yoke?
Yes I do: ua-cam.com/video/Tsm7jT1BBfM/v-deo.html ;)
The way to get Look Down Right or Up Left kind of action bound, is to have an 8 way HAT switch, rather than a 4 way HAT like most controllers have. For example, the Saitek/Logitech X52/5/6 have 8 way HATs.
Great tip - thanks!
But even with the 8 way, can it be entered by pressing down-right, or will it register either down or right, but not down-right? I think that's what was happening in the video.
@@skyhawk_4526 It CAN be done as I have done it with my 8 way. It took patience...I had to try it several times to hit the sweet spot on the hat.
Where there is a will, there is a way. Maybe they didn't make so intuitive because they knew pro's like you will figure it out.
Very likely😉. I think they also wanted to showcase their new viewing system
I’ve watched several of your videos and they’ve been very helpful so thank you for that! I have another question, is there a way to also move around the cockpit with the V1? You can do it with an Xbox controller by holding LB and moving left stick. Haven’t been able to figure it out on V1.
This video may help you with that: ua-cam.com/video/6paEiCoOJ5w/v-deo.html
@@Huddison Thanks!
Hello hello
I have the Thrustmaster TCA Captains Pack Airbus X Edition but for some reason the pov hat stopped moving left and right, good video by the way and it took me too long to find it here. :)
Hello, I've not got enough details to help you here; can you expand a little?
@@Huddison the pod hat on my joystick doesn’t work when I move it left and right to view the cockpit but it works when I click it up and down.
What bindings do you have setup for your left & right hat?
It might be easier for you to share this in the Discord, so that you can show pictures of your bindings. @@yannisspyrakis6098
Thank god. Thank you. I can now start using my sim again. Why does MS make things so complicated vis a vis flight control settings?
Tell me about it
as for the look down left type thing with your hat switch pointer pointing at 7 oclock, you want to hold that hat switch precisely in the 7 o'clock position BUT DO NOT LET GO OF THE HAT SWITCH WHILE YOU then use your mouse to click VALIDATE ... and it won't awkwardly change the arrow direction as it tends to like doing - hope that helped someone
I have an updated video here, showing a better way: ua-cam.com/video/jt3CiPb20g0/v-deo.html
Have a question, I have a Cessna pro yoke with two throttle quadrants. When I hooked up the throttle quadrant that came with the yoke it had a round plug that plugged into the yoke. Then added another yoke that had a USB end plug and plugged it into a USB port on yoke. Now the USB throttle quadrant works but not the original throttle quadrant that came with the yoke, one with round plug. Any ideas on what I might look for to correct this problem?
Again thanks for the hat switch set up since need to do my hat switch.
Does the throttle that plugs into the yoke work, without plugging in the extra quadrant into the your PC?
can you please tell me how to set up the mouse to look around free look for the external camera, i want to beable to move the mouse to look around the plane ect
You should be able to do that by default; I believe you simply hold down your right mouse button and move your mouse around.
i think that you have helped me on the way to my dilemma. I am trying to find a way to bind a keyboard key "END" to a button on my x52 pro hotas that will take me from the external views and put the sim back into cockpit view. Any suggestions will be appreciated. I have more than enough buttons to do that. I want to eliminate the keyboard while flying.
That'll be toggle cockpit/external view
@@Huddison Thanks for your help. It works now like I want it to. I just finished downloading and installing the 40th Anniversary edition in its entirety. If I only want to fly helicopters, would it be possible to go into the packages folder and delete the aircraft I do not wish to fly? I could cut the airplanes into a different folder and paste them there. That way if at some point I could put them back into the packages folder. Have you ever thought about doing that?
Anyone know how to make a X 52 saitek to work like FSX. My hat switch is close with this but the up and down dont work like the left and right do.
Thanks what about outside the cockpit if you want to pan around the aircraft with the hat switch?
Funny you should ask:)
ua-cam.com/video/jToegWQthBc/v-deo.html
Awesome thank you! How do I shift forward and back?
Zoom you mean? You could set up a couple of buttons on your yoke or quadrant to do that.
Click on select input to look for the symbols
Yes thanks - see other comments below
@huddison Do you have any codes to get better price on that flighstick you like? (interested in getting one as well).
Which flightstick would that be? I'm afraid I don't receive any codes for peripherals.
Thx for this, so I use zoom/move head and then look around with the hat switch. But when I recenter, it does but it removes the zoom/head position change and resets that too. How do I re-center without losing the zoom/move head position after looking around?
Is that the reset cockpit view function you're referring to?
@@Huddison ya. If I use that function, it resets the view, but it also resets any zoom or head position change. I want to find a way to reset the view without undoing the zoom or head position.
Thank you so much for this video! It's made things so much better in FlightSim. Is there a way to set the hat for the External or Drone Camera, where you can freely look around the outside of the plane, but the view always stays centered on the aircraft...like I always used to be able to do with older versions of FlightSim?
Not sure about that, reinstalling FS2020 atm, so will look into it when I can
@@Huddison Thank you!
@@davidreisman412 struggling to find an option in FS2020 for your reqested views option
Huddison Thanks, I appreciate you trying!
Hi Huddison...just wanted to check in and see if you've had any luck finding a solution to using the hat for the drone camera (or the regular exterior camera for that matter). Thanks!
I just got my Logitech g pro flight yoke system and I was wondering how to bind the flaps onto the throttle quadrant like your throttle is.
where did u order from?! most of places i check they’re sold out
I've tried binding the flaps in FS2020 to a lever on the throttle quadrant: all I seem to have the option of is either, flaps fully deployed or fully retracted.
Will investigate further, as I've something special (hopefully) arriving soon for it👍
Daniel Robinson I ordered mine from Sporty’s Pilot shop. I says it should ship on September 8 if you ordered it now.
Huddison that is the same problem I am having. Thanks
@@betm9704 found a solution in FS2020 to deply flaps & speed brake incrementally - video on it coming soon!
I installed MSFS 2020 17,3,0 on Friday June 19th and the hat button on my yoke works perfectly well in X-Plane 11.53, but it's a bit inconsistent with the up position because it won't allow me to view the upper panels on most aircraft, including commercial airliners, I'll have to look at the settings on that button again. Thanks.
Assign the up as a custom view - check my other videos ;)
@@Huddison Thank you Mr. Huddison, I'll check out your other videos, I would also like to apologize for not being clear enough in my last message, I was having the problems with the Hat switch in MSFS 2020, not X-Plane 11. I looked at MSFS 2020's control yoke configurations and I had no success in setting the "Up" position on the hat switch, but I had success setting up the "Up" button on the right side of the control yoke to "Look Up" and get a complete view of the upper panels, I was also able to set up the upper/right and lower/right positions without any problems on the hat switch. It works perfectly well in X-Plane 11 but not in MSFS 2020 so I might have to live with that until Asobo provides a fix. :)
@@MagnumMike44 Understood and it's good to hear to you found some kind of working solution for it, for now :)
Great thanks ....could you also tell how I can get rid of the popup tags I get when I hover my mouse over knobs and instruments? Thank you
I'll take a look and let you know
@@Huddison O K great thanks...I have looked everywhere in the menu
@@jankin880 You'll have to bear with me, reinstalling FS2020 as Game Pass version stopped working, frustratingly
Struggling to find an option to not display what the instruments are when you hover over them, I'll keep digging - let me know if you find that option first!
Huddison ha ha I will not find that option first ...I would expect it to be somewhere very present in a preferences menu....but that preferences menu is nowhere to be found....thanks you want to look into this
So how do you click the cockpit switches without toggling between hat and mouse all the time? I found out how to use the hat view a while back but in FSX I can use the hat to look around AND the mouse to click the controls at the same time but in MFS I can only toggle between the hat and mouse. Any ideas?
I'm yet to figure that one out myself. As soon ss you use the mouse, the view resets (as you know).
Hopefully one of my knowledgeable subscribers might know a trick😉
@@Huddison Ok thanks yes you do have to wonder why MS overcomplicated something that simply worked!
I solved it !! I thought I would have another look and I set the hat views as normal but cleared the one for toggle lockable view so only the 8 axis are set under the joystick. This now means I can look around the cockpit with the hat and click the cockpit buttons at the same time. I think the trick was to clear the toggle setting. Finally! So happy its sorted.
@@ricardoroberto100 Excellent 👍Thanks for sharing your discovery.
@@Huddison I honestly thought it wasn't possible and have been toggling between the mouse and hat for months! This has transformed things now. Hope it does for others too.
How did you set your quickview to toggle? Mine is not toggled by default (i have to hold the button and ulon relesethe camera switches back, resets)
Check under General options/Camera
@@Huddison thanks!
What I'm still unsure how to set up correctly is once you switch to external view instead of cockpit, i want to use my hat switch to pan the camera around the aircraft , up down, all around .....
ua-cam.com/video/jToegWQthBc/v-deo.html
i just got a trustmaster and works great but now i cannot use my mouse??? how can i use both?
Your mouse doesn't work at all? Check in options/controls and ensure it's not been somehow disabled. Also maybe try a different usb port for your mouse.
@@Huddison it was working before i plugged the joystick. but in options it shows my mouse and joystick. not sure how that happened.
@@teamchecko9086 Very strange. Do you have any other controllers (like an Xbox controller) to check & see if your mouse works with them?
What about multi window views (not pop out panels) in FS 2020??
My FS is put away for now and hardware needs to be updated. I last used Prepar3d. I have 2 monitors in the front for front view and a monitor on each side for 90 deg window views. In the real-world, GA aircraft have a window on both sides at 90 degrees. In FSX and Prepar3d you could create multiple view/windows and simply drag them to your side monitors and then simply rotate the hat switch until you now have a left view/window on the left and a right view/window on the right. I don't have FS 2020 just yet and I understand that you can't do that in FS 2020.
Is this true??
I'm not interested in window stretching because it's unrealistic in the real world.
Now as far as I know currently, it's still not implemented in MSFS (someone please correct me if I've missed a recent addition); but it's on many people's wish-list.
@@Huddison Thanks
Thank you thank you thank you!!!! Why isn’t this the default???🙄
Yes it really should be
So is it an 8 way hat switch? Wondering why it wouldn’t pick up the other views?
Yes it's 8 way. You have to assign the other views rather than manually searching for them.
Hey man remember me? I just got my msfs yoke!
Hey how are things? That's brilliant to hear! ;)
@@Huddison I am really enjoying it. Thanks for all of your videos that helped me with all the controls! :)
@@bjpm7718 You're most welcome! :)
Hello I am a new subscriber and I have a question and no answer. I am using the Logitech 3Pro for MSFS2020 and not able to fly it the aircraft moves erratic on ground and I can not take off. I have try all kind of suggestions to make it work on the sensitivity settings and remain the same. I you can help me I will be very much appreciate.
Thank you. Carlos.
That sounds like possible settings that you'll have to turn off in 'assistance Options/Piloting'; they were all reset after a fairly recent Sim Update.
Do you know it is possible to make the same thing for outside view ? I dit it !
This should help: ua-cam.com/video/jToegWQthBc/v-deo.html
Hi ! I just set it up your way but as soon as I release the pov buttons it centers automatically and do not stay in position, any solution ? Thanks a lot!
You have your views options set to 'Hold' instead of 'Toggle'. Check under General Options/Camera.
@@Huddison corret, now it's good! thanks
How can I switch from Cockpit view to the Instrument view with one button?
Set one of your buttons as one of the custon views found in options, controls & views
Thank you very much for your help!
Can't find the T6 reset on my yoke where to find?
Reset the view you mean? It's the last button along (left to right) on the Throttle quadrant - lower half.
Now if someone could just tell me how to do this in VR i'd be happy, I like to use VR but i have a stiff neck and after 10 minutes of looking around my neck gets sore. For some reason MSFS disabled this look around inside the cockpit with VR on. The hat switch still works great outside in VR but not in cockpit, Does anyone know how?
The quick views via the hat switch (left, right etc) still work well in VR. It'll certainly help with you mot straining your neck too much ;)
Got most of it, but still looks around but won't hold in spot i want to stay on
Check your setting again; you might have it set to continuous movement, or something similar - I'll pop into the sim to see what it might be.
In what way does it keep looking around? Struggling to find any setting in the sim that does that.
Found something that might help:
During flight, press Escape & choose 'General' - under 'Camera' tab, check that your 'Freelook speed' & 'Freelook momentum' are not set to high (I have mine set at defaults - 50).
Try that and let me know!
Unfortunately, this video does not work with the latest update Aug 2022
In what way?
I cant look up / down using Logitech 3d , which work on xp11, fs2004, fsx
Does your Hat switch allow you to look left and right? Double check you've assigned the up/down on your Hat switch to the correct setting.
@@Huddison ok will try it. Thanks