Can a Honda Ridgeline and Passport handle some real off-road terrain?
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- Опубліковано 10 жов 2022
- On todays episode we finally get the chance to test the all might Honda power plant. We invited Jon and Manny to cleghorn to really find out what these beloved AWD machines can do. The Passport and Ridgeline both have a system called B.A.L.L.S created by Manny himself. Checkout the episode and let us know what you think.
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That Ridgeline was impressive 👏 👍
Was that Hondaa Ridgeline awd?
They're all AWD@@rashalprajapati6180
I’d say the biggest difference between these 2 is driver experience and confidence. Both vehicles did much better than I expected though, and I’m loving these comparison videos!
Exactly. Passport driver kept letting off when he should have just kept going.
I’m super impressed by the off-road capabilities of the Honda Ridgeline. Shoutout to the driver for is on point handling. 👍🏽
Totally agree! It shocked me how well it performed. Thank you for watching
Awesome video George! Thanks for the Lesson and making sure I didn’t roll. It was awesome to see the footage from the outside. I saw a lot of slipping in my Passport, we saw similar issues when we went to Gorman. The Ridgeline was able to drive up a steep hill where my Passport was skipping and slipping its tires and I wasn’t able to make it up. I’m not sure if it’s the tires or all the added weight, but I’m going to see about going with a different set when my tires are worn out. Just to clear it up, I never got a transmission overheating warning, but my trans got to the hottest it’s ever gotten too, which was 240F. I did get an AWD heat warning about 5 times. No limp mode, but does scare the crap out of me 😂. Yeah man, I suck at this terrain 😂. Make’n me Learn George!!!!
Aw damn I thought the warning was the trans. As for the passport the terrain and experience on being on it is a huge part. To be fair though you said it best you didn’t buy to crawl it’s good for what you need it to do. I am curious on how the new passport will fair with its new tech.
Good to see you on here Jon!
@@georgekarpouzis6108 hey 👋 George
random note, hope you got your timebelt,tensioner, and waterpump serviced
Impressive seeing the Ridgy do this! I am coming from a 4runner and just traded in for a 23 Black edition Ridgeline. Driving on the road is night and day! Handles like a nice SUV on the road with so many things the 4R didn't have. 99.9% of my driving is on the road even when i go hunting so it made sense for me to go with the Honda. I wouldn't even think of rock crawling with my Ridgy and it wasn't what it was built for but man its cool to see someone going for it!
That Ridgeline was very impressive. Humble guy too 👌
Biggest problems with the Honda awd system is the lack of low range, especially on the 6spd. Long slow crawls will overheat the trans pretty quick. It needs dedicated trans cooler and fans if you want to consistently do slow high altitude crawls. I've had my lifted 08 Ridgeline all over the San Juan mountain trails and had a great time doing it without any support vehicles.
I agree but let’s be real it shouldn’t really be doing this anyways so I give it my hats off
I wonder if trying a different "mode" would help? In mud mode, mine feels like it goes into 4 lo.
Ridgeline putting in work.
What a great video and perspective! Really like the spirit of what the rigs are capable of and to help clarify what anyone may want to have. Thank you!
Good video, it’s nice to see how they do. Surprising that they have enough clearance to do so much
The 9 speed transmission on the Honda Ridgeline gives it an advantage too.
Cool video. I have a couple 1st gen ridgelines and they are great.
Amazing. I am impressed.
Awesome Video Bro-Ski and very funny too LOL
Appreciate it
Bummed I missed this test session looks like a good time! "Get a real truck" that's cold Jorge 😂
Joe, the white Ridgeline has a license plate that says “NARTPRO”, which stands for “Not A Real Truck” 🤣😂 I’m sure no one is taking offense.
@@JonDZ_Adventuring I didn't realize that lol are you going to do anything to your rig to make it more capable other than more wheel time?
@@joseapontejr that’s pretty much it. I’m an overlander, and the stuff I’ve been doing for the past 3-3/4 years just isn’t nearly as difficult as this. I’m planning on changing my tires, which should help, but not sure if it’ll be enough.
Considering that Honda doesn't build off-road capable vehicles, that Ridgeline surprised me.
Lol. Just what I was curious about. However they have a new off road version in testing phase. I am partial to Hondas. It was my first car I learned how to drive a stick and work on. I destroyed the transmission. Lol. It's good to see Honda getting in the game. I live my jeep. But I like seeing all brands. Jeeps do have there own issues.
Putting in work!
My 2020 Sport is just right as it came from the factory. It handles 12” of snow, great. Any more than that, I stay home! Nothing is open, because the rest of the people can’t get to work. I like the original height, to get in and out of the vehicle, comfortable. But I did like seeing my year & model performing. I need mine for general road driving, room and economy. Still very satisfied with my purchase! The Ridgeline is a very comfortable truck to drive or ride in.
Thats awesome man. Sounds like you bought the perfect rig for your needs.
I got a 2023 Ridgeline this summer. A big snowstorm just after the new year was the acid test for snow handling, my Ridgeline did great! We had about a foot on the ground and the roads I traveled hadn't been plowed yet for the most part, and it was still coming down. The biggest problem I had was other drivers on the road, I damn near got sideswiped by a Chevy Silverado, that guy was all over the place. Not trying to crack the Silverado, maybe he had bald tires or no skills.
I've had a lot of fun in the Utah desert going places that my RAV4 couldn't make it. I take my offroading pretty casual, I'm not doing anything hardcore. The Ridgeline is how I roll, right tool for the right job.
At 8:51 the Ridgeline's front right bumper made contact with the surface and pulled out a section of the bumper.
That is correct nothin broke just popped it back into place with the clips and kept moving
Love it! Thanks for this comparison. This comprison might have been more interesting if the same driver drove both vehicles. Eliminates a "confounding variable"- (differences in driving style).
I agree but handing keys to your baby sometimes is tough lol
just bought a 2023 Ridgeline. Sport truck handles like a car.
These are much tougher to off road no matter how frustrating it is to us Jeepers to watch. Their axle locks don’t engage manually and only at a specific wheel speed and by computer in the form of traction control. Very frustrating that they simply can’t have a manual mode on these things lol.
These Hondas have a rear LSD, so the only open diff is the front diff. The traction control system isn’t very aggressive on the front diff.
My two favorite UA-camrs finally collab
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Ayyyyyyy Ernesto!!!
I saw a crosstrek with a cvt do Edison hill jon. Oh and the outback wilderness 😂
🤣🤣 it’s more rutted now, and it’s apparent my overland build literally holds my rig back. Props to Kevin though. Dude has skills and a good strategy disconnected the sway bars and getting more articulation from the iron man coil over lift. Glad Manny was here to show what an iVTM4 Honda is really capable of.
My pilot is good for driving around the city. But I can't see it as an off roader. Thank God for the Bronco.
Love the tacoma but a lot of old tech. Thr ridgeline is a great alternative
Well all i can say is that i have no regrets getting my Bronco Sport Badlands! I'm surprised about the capacity of the Ridgeline actually!
Similar setup with the twinclutch rear diff, but Ford has the better brake vectoring system. The new 2023 Pilot has improvements, curious to see if it’ll stack up. The Hondas have better gearing, but are also a lot bigger and heavier. I’m impressed with Fords AWD system. Honda has had the twin clutch thing going since the early 2000s, but Ford has the best iteration of it today.
@@JonDZ_Adventuring They probably learned from Land Rover
@@carllovullo6602 I don’t think the Land Rover uses a twin clutch rear diff, just really good brake vectoring.
@@carllovullo6602 basically, Hondas early 2000s AWD system was decent because the rear diff wasn’t open, but it lacked a traction control / brake vectoring system. The open front diff with really poor gearing 11:1 really held it back.
@@JonDZ_Adventuring No they dont have a rear locking diff but Ford probably learned the awd algoryth and programming from Land Rover
I only hope those Honda bois have installed auxilary transmission coolers.
I came to watch the Ridgeline but subscribed when I saw your Schnauzer!
Haha thats awesome
I love the license plate on the Ridgeline! I'm trying to decide between keeping mine or going to a Tacoma Off Road. I am really tempted by the chance to get back into a 6 M/T.
I would go Gladiator LOL
Awesome video. I’m a huge Honda fan and on my second Ridgeline. Don’t listen to the haters! I’ve been to 4 overlander events and the best part is, there are a lot of different rigs. Very simple to ungodly expensive. Each to his own I say. What tires were used in the RL?
Toyo open country at3 for the RL falken wildpeak at3w on the passport
Impressive
This video just confirm the capabilities of the Ridgeline has! Nice work doing the video. I’m not sure, but where that electric saw sound was coming from?
Weird I don’t know 🤷♀️
The driver of the passport need to be changed 😂
🔥 🔥 🔥
What would you say the cost of some moderate upgrades to make a ridgeline more capable off-road, but not necessarily as rugged as what you guys are driving on, would cost? I’m looking at one for my vehicle with my son, and I live in Southwest Colorado so we definitely get into some outdoor adventuring, but I like the idea of the truck feeling good on road as well.
God damn the front bumper almost came off first run hahah
Just also to note that the Ridgeline has a longer wheelbase compared to the Passport
I can't wait to get a Ridgeline
It’s a surprising rig for sure. You will love it.
Great video! But I would never buy a Honda to offroad. I get trying to be different tho. Toyota or jeep only baby💪🏽
Agreed but its interesting seeing how much they can really do
@@TrailMilitia definitely 💯.. good stuff fellas👊🏽
Don't have the sun directly behind you!
you going over heat the tranny. i really love my pioneer sxs for its 4x4 true dff not sure why they are not at least giving a rear locker for these.
Definitely good from the ridgeline but needs more power low down
I agree couple moments there I was like ohh snap literally
@@TrailMilitia need someone or a company’s to make twin screw blowers for these j series v6’s would be perfect
I’ll take my Trailhawk compass which is an AWD system. Lol
Let me know if you ever plan a AWD run or we can do a Bronco sport vs a Trailhawk 😊
It would be awesome to see what the compass Trailhawk can do.
@@DirtRoadJourney yes sir ! Just got it as a daily driver and curious how capable this thing is.
Send me a Dm on IG let’s do it
@@jasonmelendez5039 compass Trailhawk has brake vectoring, but open front and rear diffs. It’s geared like the Hondas at 20.4:1, so you’ll be more aggressively geared than the bronco sport. The Honda and Bronco sport badlands both have a twin clutch rear LSD though. The Bronco sport badlands is hard to beat. A good comparison would be with a Landrover disco sport or Range Rover evoque. It’ll be a batter of brake vectoring.
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8:49 No one gonna talk about that??
Rectifying that with a new bumper, I did a mild cut which gets caught on everything still
Can anybody recommend some bigger tires for the passport? It’s hard as hell to find anything for this truck
Hit JONDZ on Instagram he’s the passport guy in the video…
nice. go honda ridgeline…
“Yeah that’s going to be a no for me dawg.” Was Danny cutting wood on a table saw in the background? 😁 Go big or go home: Toyota, Ram, Chevy, Ford, Jeep: yes. These were Civics on steroids.
These Hondas aren’t for everyone. Don’t need a real truck to go to Monache meadows 😂
Well if it gets you to Monache Meadows than you’re good to go. That’s definitely in my top 3 Cali spots. The trail to the river camps is awesome!
@@tundragoingplaces6961 the road to the coyote flats / funnel lake is pretty awesome. I got there in my Passport with the 9 speed, but *he had a 2018 Ridgeline that overheat 7 times because it only had the Honda 6 spd auto transmission. That dude replaced it with a Tacoma. Funnel lake seems to gate keep most AWDs because of the lack of 4LO or aggressive gearing. Cleghorn was too much for me 🤣, I don’t think I want to ever get used to trails this difficult, but I’m sure it wouldn’t even be a thing in something like George’s Gladiator.
😁 yea I backed out of Cleghorn at first too when I was all stock, but George forced me to do it and that’s when I learned my truck’s potential and got really into off-roading.
First!!!!!
Lol. Second. Great looking Honda. Did you see tfl driving the new one that they ate trying to make it more off road capable. . Interesting
@@taraaaron1242 dang, I actually wasn’t first 😖. Yeah, I saw the new Honda Pilot Trailsport. Pretty nice to see it take on a decently moderately difficult trail in Colorado. It’s on the same platform, so hopefully the owner of the white Ridgeline can get the new parts (or programming) to work with out generation Hondas.
I use to drive a FJ cruiser, but never offroaded it. I drove it to big bear to go snowboarding, but got sick of daily driving it. I then moved on to the Subaru platform, but then I ran into capability issues. It was actually a TFL video where I saw these Hondas doing so well. Jeep crossover and the Hondas were the only AWDs able to make it up their Gold Mine Hill obstacle. After the CVT (transmission) blew up in my Subaru, I actually went to go buy a Tacoma, but I couldn’t fit in one properly (and I didn’t want to go back to the J150 platform with a 4runner). The Honda dealership was next door, and the rest is history. I was really trying to get rid of the Subaru and the CVT asap, and back in 2019 I only wanted to go with either Toyota or Honda, two brands that are perceived to be very reliable. If I could make this decision with todays selection, I’d probably go with the new Nissan frontier. The VQ engine is known to be pretty reliable, and I like how it has a normally aspirated V6 and a 9 speed transmission.
I bet if they both took off their sway bars they would flex way more
The Ridgeline had both sway bars removed. I just had my rear removed.
Guarantee the Pilot would've wheeled better without the RTT.
😃 thank you! Makes me feel better. The RTT stays on! I’ve slept in that thing about 40 nights this year.
Amazing driver in the Ridgeline. Passport driver needs to take some lessons, as soon as he gains traction, he lets off the throttle. 🤦🏻
honda passport vs. jeep grand cherokee? Which one to choose for yourself and family? Priority driving in the city, but also long trips + off-road. I am not in America for a long time, I want to see the maximum. I like wild places. I will install a tent on the roof and sleep in it with my wife, and the kids in the car )
Also want comfort, passability and economy. Thank you all who will answer
Grand Cherokee for sure especially if it’s only for a limited time. More capabilities and just looks better in my opinion
@@TrailMilitia Design yes, but on that, what other advantages does the Jeep have? Honda is more comfortable, more fuel efficient, faster, better handling, more reliable and much roomier with similar body size
@@Celik9313 Honda is definitely not faster if you want something for the road you’re going to put weight on and also go off-roading the jeep is the way to go on so many levels. Especially with the nicer trims. If you’re looking for efficiency than I’m not the guy to talk to performance and comfort goes to the grand Cherokee by a mile
@@TrailMilitia thank you for your advice
I've watched that dude in the passports videos before. Never understood why you wouldn't just buy a cheap yota or jeep and explore way more trails without having to deal with all the Honda safety system BS.. Build on a platform that won't have you stressing or worried on a damn fire road lol
Bruh, I use to drive a FJ cruiser. Not cool with daily driving it, let alone driving it hundreds of miles uncomfortably. That’s cool that your enjoy driving 💩 boxes. If that’s your thing, that’s your thing. You do you.
I just don't get it. Seems like swapping for a good set of seats and then driving it worry free would be a better choice compared to the drawbacks of the Honda
@@LackeyKh so, think about the draw backs of the vehicles you mentioned. There’s only one thing they’re better at.. offroad. Passport does 0-60 in 5.8 seconds, it has power based yaw control to take corners better. It’s more fuel efficient. Has a more spacious and comfortable cabin (I couldn’t fit in a 2019 Tacoma comfortably, otherwise I would have bought one), and it’s more fuel efficient. Cleghorn offshoots are rated as “difficult 4WD” terrain. My Passport has 117K miles over 3-3/4 years of ownership. It’s my daily driver and my adventure mobile. I’ve been up imogene pass in Colorado, Fins N Things south/north in Moab, but yes…. I absolutely sucked at Cleghorn. I understand you and the way you think, but bruh…. It’s not rocket science. To simply put it, I’m an overlander, and adventurer, not an off-roader. I’m in it for the destinations, not the trail.
I like to off road to be challenged. If I am driving a lifted to high heavens fully decked out jeep, then going off road may as well be a drive to the nearest Starbucks, you've let tech do the work and there is no/less challenge to the task. I say it's more fun to take a low to moderate challenge trail in a less capable vehicle than a technical trail in a decked out rig. Plus, the decked out rig has less trails available to challenge it, vs a lesser rig that can find "challenging" terrain everywhere giving more adventure options. Plus one can daily an outback/passport/Bronco sport/etc more livably (even if modified like these) than trying to daily a decked out jeep.
Does Ridgeline driver have an IG account to follow his truck?
He does let me see if I can find it for ya
@@TrailMilitia thanks bud, I have a Ridgeline and it's so hard to find Ridgeline off road content that's why and awesome videos BTW 👍
@@91342George @k20nartpro is his IG thanks for watching appreciate it
@@TrailMilitia Awesome! Thanks again buddy
Clam in the pants? #passport
😖 I may have had an inverted erection on this trail
You wanna hear something really really funny.. my 2004 CR-V is better than these with just some slightly oversized tires. 😂 it so much shorter and just humps over stuff. Plus it has miles better approach angles.
You want to know something even funnier… No it’s not. Let me know when you want to test your theory
What a poser that Passport guy was.
Your title and then the actual vehicles do not match, they have been modified.
It’s not a Honda ridgeline and passport? I never said they were stock
Terrible spotting.
why are you messing with these cars by a jeep or tacoma if you want to do some real off roading da
It’s testing capabilities and pushing limits not really saying they can do more than what you mentioned but it’s impressive watching them do it
If you want to do some real life off roading buy an ATV. My ATV wouldn’t even break a sweat on those hills.
@@DCSPORTSTER ATVs come with their own set of headaches including not street legal but very fun
If you want a trail blazer, get a horse!
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