The Honda Passport TrailSport Is The MOST Off-Road Worthy Honda, But Is It Good Enough?
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- Опубліковано 28 лют 2022
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In this video we hit the ranch in the new Honda Passport TrailSport to find out if the badge is more than just some cool colors!
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That’s about all the SUV anyone needs, kind of like its brother the Ridgeline. Both are under appreciated.
We need more videos with Nathan.
We have watched all the tfl presenters improve their on-screen presence over the last decade-plus, but he was already great from the beginning.
I love the Passport. I do hope that Honda does more than an appearance package though next time. Skid plates, lift etc.
Lift that uses longer travel, not just spacers. Adjustable preload in the rear, and skid plates.
@Mathew Long You're better off just putting an aftermarket system in. You can spend twice as much as the package and get a CLEARLY superior system.
Felt the same way about my Ridgeline. A beast in the snow.
Can confirm.
I love my 22' TrailSport. It will handle everything NYC weather can throw at it and then some.
The Honda is superior in reliability compared to the Jeep.
Not really anymore.
@@user-tb7rn1il3q your funny
@@user-tb7rn1il3q lol always and forever. I love jeep and dodge....but hell no. they crap compared to Honda reliability and ease of ownership
@@user-tb7rn1il3q honda is in the top 5 in reliability. Jeep is not even near top 10
Lol, you're clearly brand myopic.
Don't ruin it by lifting it, keep it stock, it'll handle and ride better, just get a nice set of tires for offroad/snow/road and you're good to go.
Love the videos.
Lifting it 3.5 inches and you can't even notice a difference in on-road handling. It's not like a Subaru where after lifting my 2015 Forester XT, it handled like crap.
A lifted Honda? I've never seen one and I imagine that is for good reason.
@@Steve-yr5vi 3 years ago, people weren’t offroading Lexus GX470/460s. Now they’re everywhere.
@@Steve-yr5vi check out jonDZ Adventure channel. His passport is very nice. It’s lifted. Mildly. But it’s nice.
Sweet video Nathan! I’ve been watching TFL since 2012 and really enjoy your reviews and just how “real you are”.
I think the Passport AWD is actually more capable than a 4x4 Laredo, which only has Quadra trac 1. The Laredo has a single speed T case with a 16.2:1 crawl ratio. (I’m not even sure if it’s a real T-case. Maybe it’s really AWD?). The Passport has a PTU (they call it a T case, but there’s no mechanical lock in speed front to rear). The Passport has a rear LSD with a 20.4:1 crawl ratio. Unless the Passport goes up against a Trailhawk or a Grand Cherokee with the quadratrac 2, the Passport is actually a little bit more capable. I’ve taken mine to imogene Pass, albeit, it’s lifted 3.5” and on 32.1” tires, and I’ve completed the entire 9 mile fins n things trail.
That's why I feel like Jeep drivers/fans just blow smoke up everyone's ass. The Cherokee is still a unibody construction. Most AWD 4x4 will get the job done with proper clearance and tires.
Anyone saying this can't go off road is just gate keeping and gaslighting.
Must admit that Honda is pretty impressive, just give it another 1" of clearance and better tires.
Check out Jon DZ adventuring. His passport is as close to max as you can get without making a custom transfer gear and portal hubs.
It needs a few more inches of clearance , a minimum of 10” and double the suspended travel for me to even look at any Honda pretending to be a truck, honda makes nice dirt bikes, although not cutting edge like husky or ktm.. the Honda off road,lol it needs larger tires , a low range and skid plates, better approach,break over and departure angles, this is a minivan/ crossover… it also needs a mechanic selectable locker…
@@vincefairleigh6899 the FJ Cruiser I drive has 9.6 in... Just to put things in perspective.
@@mboiko I’m not a big fan of the fj in stock trip, it’s ok.. reliable, strong frame, a great foundation to build on, tons of aftermarket to build anything… but stock, it’s a little better than the 4 runner, the toyotas are way better than anything honda makes, I have owned three Toyota trucks… they didn’t compare to my first generation bronco, except for reliability,lol I despise the independent front suspension on Toyotas, I have bent my bump stops on all three Toyotas despite increasing the spring rate and either double shocked or good shocks.
@@mboiko at the diff… my Jeep has 11” of clearance yet the frame is 16” off the ground and rock sliders are 18”.
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The passport is 9” everywhere which is not good. JonDZ has a video explaining this, essentially truck minimum clearance being similar to crossover is a falsehood.
Based on resale value alone, this is a better deal.
I am a HONDA GUY for life, I live in and tow with a 2012 Honda Pilot. So this video is awesome but THAT COW CONVERSATION WAS GRADE A ENTERTAINMENT !!! 🤙
Hey Nathan and crew.... great review. I love my Honda Passport. Just a note, I noticed you guys run these with the ECON button engaged (I see the green leaf on cluster) ... that really dampens the throttle when you use that button.... Takes all the fun out of it. The best part of it is, unlike the Grand Cherokee, I get over 25 or 26mpg on the highway. It's a great vehicle!
Interesting my ecodiesel ram rebel gets 26-28 mpg on the highway at 70mph.
Unfortunately diesel cost more than gas so it’s a wash.
The Passport is rated at 24 mpg highway, but people are reporting 29 highway. I can believe it because I have a 3.5" lift on mine, root top tent and a 180 degree awning and 600 lbs. from all the mods and gear, and 32.1" tires (which are 2.5" taller than oem. I get 22 mpg on flat land, calm winds and at 65 mph. Makes sense, because my mods should take away more than just 2 mpg. a 6-7 mpg loss sounds more accurate.
@@joshc606 Well Josh you make a comment like that without weighting all the facts. I get 10 to 11 miles to the gallon more then my gas counterpart. So if we use 5 gal base my gas counterpart on 87 octane would pay $18.39 go 85 miles. With 5 gal of diesel I pay $19.43 and can go 130 miles. So I fail to see the fact in your comment. Just saying. Base tfl getting 17 mpg on their rebel compared to mine getting 26 mpg.
@@fredv7487 that’s awesome. You’d probably get even more mpg if you get a turbo diesel tune. My friends F250 tremor gets 23 MPG and with a 48 gallon gas tank, he has 1100 mile range. TFL did a mpg test on the new Tundra and it got 25.5 mpg. That’s with the 3.0 twin turbo ! Awesome to see big heavy trucks getting better MPGs. I think my next vehicle will be some kind of turbo hybrid, but with the Passport turning 3 years old, I expect Atleast another 4 years out of her. I’m already at 97K miles.
Coped better than the Pathfinder especially going up the hill ,I agree with Nathan those push button or rotary shift dials need to be consigned to automotive history.
Love to finally be rid of the useless, always in the way, Gear levers............Paul
Looks like the redesigned Ridgeline from the front. Same dual exhaust on the back, too. It’s pretty much a Ridgeline in SUV form.
Can confirm the AWD in my Ridgeline is amazing. Got me out of an unplowed cemetery in northern New York. Probably a good 8-9 inches of snow and it eventually plowed its way through, up a hill, and out.
Alex, you need to talk Roman into getting the property a Gator or Quad for the cameraman to quickly(and safely) move from shooting location spots. ;)
It looked like Nathan and Alex had a lot of fun making the video. I sure smiled the whole time. ...and yes. We could all use a donut at the end of the day.
It's funny that the pathfinder and the passport no longer directly compete. I can remember when the Nissan Pathfinder, the Honda Passport and the Isuzu Rodeo were the same vehicle.
I love the passport, is just as you stated . Very good on the paved street, very capable off road. I'm trying to wait for the 2024 , have the 2021 and love it.
So disappointing that the 2024 Passport looks exactly the same. I’m waiting for the redesign to have a boxier shape like the new Pilot. I don’t need all the interior space you get in the Pilot and the Passport’s shorter wheelbase makes it more capable off-road. Hopefully Honda doesn’t screw it up. Just want a Passport with the new boxy design of the Pilot, V6 engine and their torque vectoring iVTM AWD system.
That Honda is actually pretty impressive. It’s running similar numbers to my MB ML350, which is awesome and I love. I only have rwd though. A lot of the other vehicles you guys have run through there had much more trouble. The Honda really proved itself, and not a bad price for what you get.
Hondas VTM system has always been fantastic.. the first iteration was on the first generation MDX and it was impossible to get the thing stuck
Great review, Nathan! I’m seriously considering purchasing this vehicle.
Great review Nathan yes it needs lifted for the people in rural areas and proper tires.
Passport is high on my list. I need cargo cause we haul 3 dogs in safety crates and it has plenty of room for that.
As soon as the video started and I saw Nathan, I was like yesss Nathan gets to show us how he can take on his own crack. I’ve been waiting for that! Hella good video. I’ve been enjoying the TumbleWeed Ranch videos!
Nice job, Nathan!!!! Excellent video!
While many rugged offroaders like the lock-in hubs that you turn for trails like The Rubicon and in hill-climbing, a woman said told me that kind of system has one big weakness that it can freeze up in the snown, she saw my S10 89 Blazer and said that system was good for snow, Today they are pushing things like the Honda Passport for snown, it is nice, but has no rock crawling, heck the old S10 Blazer and Jeep Wagoneer seem pretty
good for average use, even today.
This review was excellent. I can't stand reviewers who don't go off road or have never been off roading in their lives talk about how the Passport isn't made for "any" off roading. Though it's similar to the Pilot there are some significant differences, and this guy highlights them perfectly.
I’m guessing that when the spring thaw comes, Andre’s Pit will be a stock tank (pond) or at least a major mud hole. Hmmm.
Glad Honda is stepping up. Now give it a little lift and 17’s and I’ll buy it. For now I’ll stick with my 4Runner
And fix the electrical problem
Nathan handled the sign with a great amount of equanimity.
A really good looking vehicle! Nice job Honda
Good video Nathan. 🤘🤘🤘
Yes finally a Nathan offroading video. More Nathan offroading please. 🙏
Man I wish my 21 passport came with 18's and the roof rails...
thanks Nathan. fun video.
Shove them in Nathan. It's only a press loaner vehicle anyways. What's a few cow paddys in the back in the big picture of things?
Just an FYI - This 2022 Honda Passport Trailsport came with Firestone Destination LE2 tires. I just looked them up on Tire Rack...they were 2nd WORST tire in their category. So Honda's VTM4 didn't get much help from its tires...
Awesome review!
If the Passport were available in Australia I would have got one. Instead, I got a two door Wrangler! I Love My Jeep! I don't even have a Honda lawnmower!
The perfect tires for the Passport Trailsport is the Nokia Outpost APT or Nitto Nomad Grappler. Not true AT tires, but better then All Seasons plus they are 3 Peak Mountain Snowflake rated for snow.
Love it Nathan that was hilarious
Nathan hanging with the cow lmaooo
I just grabbed a 24 Trail sport, what offloading tires would you recommend?
I’d like to see it compared to the Bronco Sport Badlands.
Best video in a long time
I didn’t feel the TrailSport was worth the extra $$. Got a ‘21 Passport and put Nitto Grapplers on it and the touring package and paid about $10k less and got more features like the remote start and upgraded audio. It has done great in all the snow this year with those tires. Totally worth it.
I like it a lot. I just wish they could have a manly gear shift for it instread of the buttons.
That's weird, like your masculinity would take a hit because of that. Man, you need to work on your confidence.
Cow was like “bruh, let’s go, open the gate”
Love it....and I really like Nathan reviews
LoL. The trail signs are great.
Random Question: Will you folks be getting the 2022 Ford Ranger for review? Also, I have been trying to purchase a Toyota Tacoma Trail Edition and apparently there are some quality issues preventing them from getting shipped. Is this true?
The 22 is pretty much unchanged, 23 will be the new model, the new Tacoma will be coming out in the future to, but haven't heard much about that.
all it needs is 9 inch ground clearance or maybe 10, make it so it will fit a 33" tires
Nice and good AWD system like the Ridgeline but it will never be able to keep with the old Passport 4x4 offroad. Basically it was an Isuzu Rodeo and did have a real 4x4 system with low range and no EBS and other problematic stuff. Just and engine using gears to do the work.
We need "Roman's Stones."
Colorado snow/mountains are meant to hoon on lol :)
Test the explorer timberline please
It would be interesting to see how the new VTM-4 compares to the older gen2 pilot vtm-4
I would too. I have a feeling the newer one is better. Possibly send more power to the back?
It’s far superior, the older system doesn’t have torque vectoring nor can it send as much power to the rear wheels as the new system.
@@johnfrantz5885 yea, i own a 2010 pilot and it isnt exactly impressive as a awd system compared to Subaru awd or traditional 4wd. Its fine for New England on road snowstorm travel though. Which is the most it sees anyway, i wouldnt push the limits with it. That being said, i love my Pilot
@@SketchyXC yeah the older pilots are still capable, we had a 2007 and traded it in for a 2016 and while the old one still got through the snow, the new one is a night and day difference
@@SketchyXC Subaru AWD isn't that great. I used to drive them and thought I was driving "THE BEST AWD". It just isn't true. old VTM4 is superior to any version of Subaru AWD. What the older Hondas Lack is a more capable transmission. Gen 1 and 2 Pilot has a 11:1 crawl ratio, the current gen Pilot/Passport/Ridgeline have a 20:1 crawl ratio.
The forester I’d say is also in that class
Nah. Forester is nowhere close. Junk cvt and weak 4 cylinder.
The Honda also will last 30 years and 500k miles. Let's see a Jeep do that.
I don’t think Pilot’s all wheel drive is the sa,e as Passport, Ridgeline and Passport share same All wheel drive system though.
It's the same. Actually, the Pilot and Passport share alot of the same parts. The Ridgeline has unique and more robust parts. I modified my Passport to accept Ridgeline rear springs and shocks (because there are no aftermarket springs or shocks). Ridgelines suspension is beefier.
"Trailsport" is just an appearance package.
Alex sounds like Greg from Succession.
Nathan is so nice and funny 😄
Nice car !
Need Tommy's T-bone trail
Tritip in its natural habitat
Awsome car . . . might take it over a grand cherokee
😂
Honda vs Jeep c'mon FC is a nightmare the ZF9speed in the jeep is junk their large 12.1 entertainment headunits in the rams are freezing up the list goes on and on and on. Hondas gives you peace of mind and ease of use.
It does okay, but Honda needs to improve that approach angle.
Off road worthy(ness) is such a tfl expression...
Didn't see enough snow to slow anything down......And My Forester with Blizzaks would have blown Your doors off......EVEN with it's little 4 banger.................Paul
The Acadia AT4 is probably a closer competitor.
Definitely. It’s almost entirely forgotten by all of the media outlets on UA-cam.
You can always spot a non local versus someone who grew up in the cold. They're dressed appropriately for the weather 😅 and wear hats and gloves inside their cars. A local would be dressed as if it was 60 degrees lol.
Those signs will never get out up.
Only reason I’m not purchasing passport or pilot is because they don’t come with towing package anymore
*just buy a regular Honda Passport and put the Toyota TRD PRO stickers on yourself, and you will feel better* hahahaha...
I wonder if a CR-V could probably make it also. Can you guys ad sand bags to simulate a SUV full of people?
I’m sure. There is no reason for this vehicle.
That steep hill would make a nice tubbing run. 😄 just leaves some tubes up top and go down And Nathan cows like to be serenaded. Make you can sing a line or 2
The radio the radio the radio
Please do the new Ford Everest!
It’s not available in the United States.
Solid review, but you all may be overestimating the humor in these obstacle names
Nathan turning some possessive “donut’s” 🤪😜😜
The pestilence of the unnecessary apostrophe strikes again!
John DZ proved enough about H. Passport.
It's a great car for what it is.
It's one of my favourite "ordinary" cars sold in America.
I wished Honda would sell something decent on the Japanese market as well :)
Hey Waldemar! I was browsing through the comment section :P thanks for the kind words. That's so strange Honda doesn't offer something like this. After all, Honda is a Japanese car company. I was told that the Passport/Pilot/Ridgeline is engineered by Americans (USA people) and of course built in America with most of the parts and components being manufactured in America (and when I say America, I mean USA, haha).
@@JonDZ_Adventuring
Honda is a giant. Honda USA and Honda Japan car divisions are different in many regards.
H. Cars sell mostly k-cars and minivans. CR-V is made in Japan for that market, but due to low amount of orders it's expensive, which causes low sales.
Stupid is very close to technical description of their marketing strategy. :(
All that at the time of an SUV boom in Japan right now...
I actually was sad about that. I like Forester, but CR-V was more comfortable. Saying that, the visibility was bad and there was lack of features like heated steering wheel at the time.
@@JonDZ_Adventuring
BTW: I bought a Forester. And that's after I watched all of your content for featuring your Forester :)
It was 30% cheaper than CR-V and RAV4 and the technical know-how is much higher in Japanese dealerships, so I decided it's worth the risk. Also it's much easier to replace the CVT oil in Japan.
I do not do off-road, but I do need good AWD for snow, mud etc. I go to the mountains for hunting and for trips with my family.
I like it A LOT. Square trunk, excellent visibility. Very good AWD for my needs. I reacts quickly so I haven't experienced much wheel spin in bad weather conditions.
As I have a hybrid and drive very smoothly, the fuel efficiency is decent as well. Eyesight is great on long trips, especially when it's windy.
My dream car would be a Passport the side or the Forester with w 2.5l NA engine. :)
Saying that, if I ever achieve my dream of having a cabin, I'll likely buy Suzuki Jimmy Sierra :)
I will never buy another Honda, our 2014 CRV has not lived up anywhere near the Honda’s Reputation, but I watched cause it’s The Wild Man of the TFL Team, the one and only Nathan Knievil, anything could happen 😬 funny how I’m always surprised there’s a cameraman even though I know there is, Alex you did a great job! Nathan made it back home right side up, not on fire that’s a good thing!
Torque vectoring isn't a replacement for a differential lock, unfortunately. Those who know, know.
My wife has a 16 pilot with the rear limited slip, always been really impressed with it in the snow, even though I dislike the vehicle overall and will never buy a Honda again. Build quality of a 90s GM product.
So I guess the point of this video is to say that Honda doesn’t make off-road vehicles. At least not street legal ones.
Would love to see the Explorer Timberline take on the Ranch
so it's in between crv and pilot. tires are tires not unless tires are bald.
Surely one of you guys have a weedeater. Go to your hardware store and buy a brush blade head and go down to Andrea's pit and take care of some of those paint scratching bushes😊
Reggae on the snow?
Test the Subaru DL please
Honda takes forever to do things. (4x4s, turbo, sports cars)
They still havent made a proper offroad competitor to the 4Runner.
The 4Runner is literally a dinosaur and you’re talking about Honda taking forever to do things LOL
@@Encourageable if a 4runner is a dinosaur then all full 4x4 offroad vehicles with transfercases are dinosaurs too. Smh.
The Passport's new front end is very similar to the GMC Acadia, and the rear styling is previous gen Explorer. I guess if someone couldn't decide between an Acadia and an Explorer, they could just get this.
No apostrophe needed for the word 'donuts'.
Bob Dylan eventually moved on from placards
The obstacle name after Nathan is hilarious! Makes me laugh every time they mention it.
Completely being a but insky what did Nathan do to his ankle, noticed a boot the other video. I currently have foot in the air post ankle surgery for spiral fracture
Why did you guys stop doing the wheel testing that Tommy used to do that tells more then these things do as the conditions are never the same to compare unlike the wheel tesing
@TFLoffroad your ranch roads are too easy. Not challenging enough.
Makes for nice money shots doing donuts but really a piece of cake when anything can run your course in the snow. Wouldn’t have been true on cliffhanger 2.0.
That's why we are in the process of building an entire off-road course. The obstacles will be enlarged, on a massive scale. Stay tuned.