Rye Grain vs. Brown Rice for Grain Spawn
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- Опубліковано 26 лис 2024
- In this video, we'll compare rye grain and brown rice for grain spawn in mushroom growing. Find out which is the best option for your mushroom cultivation needs! #grainspawn #mushroomgrowing
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I like brown rice better than all the other grains but I've switched mostly back to jars, both quart and half gallon. Tired of plastic, I'm even using glass petri dishes. Plus the rice is "shake-able" in the jars. Rice colonizes fast and performs great in substrate.
I just watched a video earlier comparing all types of grains brown rice did colonise faster than rye grain but the yeild on rye was way more like almost double
Excellent video!!
I'm curious what the difference would be between sprouted and unsprouted brown rice since sprouted would be less work for the mycellium to break down 🤔
Good question!
Many thanks for your experimentation !!
You are welcome!
Brown rice is hulled. It is not a whole grain. The whole grain wording on the bag is marketing. Brown rice is less polished than white so retains more nutrition than white. I am not surprised it is faster growing because they have already removed the hull, less work for the fungus.
Ok so my question is do I HAVE to cook the rice before I put it in the bag and throw it in the pressure cooker OR can I just hydrate the rice throw in in the bag and then the pressure cooker.? I’m in the hydrating stage and I’m debating what to do on my next step
I just saw someone claim they had great success with 2 lbs dry grain and 475ml of water added to the bag and PC for 2.5 hours to make a 3lbs bag.
I will be trying that tomorrow.
Edit was made to correct the numbers.
i wonder if it would be possible to do it without precooking and no rinsing by just puting rice and the right amount of water in the bag / jar.
Yes I wonder that also. Maybe I will try that next
Yes absolutely I use 1/.75 rice to water ratio get hydrated but not to soft , really hard to find the median sometimes tho I find the rice gets kinda clumpy because of the starches
@@brendenvisger3781 hmm thanks for the heads up, maybe throwing in a bit of verm may help with clumping.
What was the cook time and PSI on the pressure canner.
I run at 15 PSI for 2 hours
I’d appreciate if you gave more tips on the grain prep so we can see the fast growth too
have you seen my rye grain video? ua-cam.com/video/jdBGIx-CU_g/v-deo.html I should do a rice and rye grain grow side by side. Now that I think about it I guess the title was more in my head than the video.
Hey, thanks for the video! What sealer are you using?
Do you mean the sealer to seal the bags up? If so I just added the link into the description of this video. Let me know if there is anything else I can do to help.
Thanks!
When you put the bags in the pressure cooker,are they still unsealed?
Yes, they are just folded around. Not sealed
Can you tell me why you used a pressure cooker and didn't just cook the rice fully (very new to this). Thanks
A pressure cooker brings the temperature to a higher level than boiling alone allowing for sterilization. The initial boil is to put water into the grains of rice. The idea is to have a grain that is dry and hard on the outside and moist in the middle (I have heard it called al dente). Then sterilize and inoculate.
After cooking or soaking your grains, they need to dry a bit and then be put into jars or bags. These process leave the grains or rice open to bacteria which all around us in the air. The pressure cooking ensures that the grains or rice is completely sterile for the introduction of the cultures. If you still have any questions or this is not clear let me know.
@@HowToShroomfor how much time did you let it be in the pressure cooker?
PC at 15 PSI FOR 2 HOURS
Question: Do certain types of mycelium do better with different grain spawns?
That's a great question, I'm not sure. I'm going to look into that
U can place the bags ontop of eachother in pressure cooker use steel divider on top so bags don't swell or unroll and clog up vent hole
Good tip, thanks, I guess I was trying to keep them separated but the reality is the separator does not help steam flow between bags anyways. It is good to have feed back from people to make me thing and try new techniques.
You can get 25 pound bags at gordon foods for like 20.00. I know not everyone has one nearby.
Triple washed pony oats
Deer corn
And popcorn
with what species where you colonizing with the brown rice?
I am growing out Penis envy in the brown rice
Wow 48h!!?? As a rye guy I need to try that
i think rye is better for potency though correcT?
@@danpiedra9008more nutrition I would think would translate to greater potency.
If it caramelized and becomes rubbery is it useless ?
What do you mean by caramelized? Rubbery, I have had this and it still seems to work fine.
For how long do you cook it in the pc?
I boil it for 15-20 min and then PC for 2 hours. 1 out of the last 40 or so bags got contamination
@@HowToShroom thanks!
Sik video bro thanks for sharing..
So.... what size unicorn bag is that and what micron filter?
I use the 4 T small with .2 micron filter patch
@@HowToShroom Thanks man, I needed that info 🍄🍄🍄🍄🍄
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Nice, thanks so much, greatly appreciated.
Instead of running cold water on it try tossing while still hot, the extra water will steam off the grains, I get perfectly hydrated rye grain every time, haven’t tried brown rice tho
Yeah but rice has a high starch content which makes it clump together if you dont rinse it after boiling
@@mercurius1488 good to know
Good tip, I think I need to try rye grain again. I think I was having issues because it just was not hydrated enough even after 24 h soaking. The brown rice is amazing, super fast to colonize.
Yes 100%, it sucks to use in jars for this reason, you need to bang the hell out of the jars and even then still stays mostly in clumps. If using the unicorn bags it is a none issue, obviously very easy to break up clumps.
Great video I have a couple tips since br is all I use to use!
Rinse the rice at least 4 times in cold water.
Add one quarter TEASPOON of gypsum per 3 cups of dried br during the boiling process. This keeps rice from clumping and adds some nutrition.
I don't know how necessary this is but it seems to help. I slowly raise the temp of the water to boiling over 20 min then let it boil for 7. Then I slowly lower the temp before straining and drying.
Last thing I'll say is if using a presto a hot shake with BR is very necessary if using jars so it doesn't clump. With something like an all American you can let it cool all the way though. My theory is the all American cools slower and that some how helps it not clump.
That last part may not be necessary since you are growing in bags and bags are easier to break up BUT if you ever run into that issue try these things! Love the video and glad to see people catching on to br!
Thanks, I really appreciate the tips. I will defiantly try this out. Cheers
Nothing had beaten brown rice for me man its amazingly fast and also great once spawn to bulk.!!!. But trying popcorn now just. Whole oats are trash. I couldn't get them right waisted 15 lbs.
Yes I want to give popcorn a try also. I think that because the kernels are so large there are not as many inoculation causing slower colonization.
What unicorn bag is that?
T4 small
im buying my PC right now this is so easy
Growing mushrooms is pretty easy.
@@HowToShroom you have multiple tubs!!!! i love it
I'll take rye, oats, or popcorn before rice any day.
What would be the reasoning behind that? I am actually finding that I don't get as many flushes with rice.
@HowToShroom rice has been the most prone to wet rot and contam for me. I have way better luck with literally anything else lol. That isn't true for everyone though.
@@HowToShroomwhat do you mean flushes?
Such tiny bags.
Drop it in a big tub and it won’t matter much
agreed, I was struggling with constant contamination with my rye grains so I down sized the bags to try and get a better chance at thorough sterilization. Didn't work. At this point after switching to rice and having great success I think I had a bad grain supplier.
@@HowToShroom Fantastic! Thank you for a great response. I'm forwarned and forearmed.
Why are you surprised they are colonizing faster? There is less nutrition in rice so it will be colonized faster.
Ideally you’d want to use the most nutritious grain not the least
why would it colonize faster with less nutrition?
@@HowToShroom I've heard this before. They say it branches out faster when there is less nutrition. I don't buy that in the case of brown rice though. People say it's a less nutritious grain but in my experience it does great as long as you prep it right. I've found in jars in can clump after the canning process is the main issue but there are ways around that.
maz are aggressive
Yes I have found that over the last few weeks working with them. So are Lizard Kings.