Making Grain Spawn for Growing Mushrooms - Better Than Uncle Bens
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- Опубліковано 2 сер 2024
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00:00 Intro
00:41 Preparing Walmart Rice
02:47 Intermission
03:27 Post-Processing Walmart Rice
07:23 Steam Sterilizing Talk
08:03 Pressure Sterilizing
11:26 Outro
Brown rice is the best grain spawn for mushroom cultivation.
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The everything is a $1.25 store,
dollar tree, has a two pound bag of brown rice, at half the price of Walmarts brand... Works just as good... For those savvy to saving $$$.
Great value and Great video 😊.
We love you MycoDogs - please more videos!
Hey , is that Walmart Brand Brown Rice?
na trader joes
@@MycoDogsno it's Albertsons brand 😂
Maybe it's Food Lion😂
What brand brown rice do you use ?
Could be great value 😮
Always rinse rice multiple times until water runs clear before boiling. Will help remove any dust/starch.
And I heard it helps remove up to 40%arsenic
Won't rinsing it after with the cold water work as well? Not that I disagree with cleaning rice first- especially if I'm eating it lol
Thanks for the fire content MycoDog
I watched 33 times over 2 weeks , I finally wrote down 11 total steps and I'm wondering if I bought the right rice ! 😂❤🤪
Myco Dog! Thank you so much for making the video and especially for the information about purging. For one, there’s actually not another good video for using a canner then yours. All the other ones use a pressure cooker or a stock pot or something else and this was super helpful. Again a double thanks for the purging information because I made 12 PF jars about a week ago and three of them were covered in bacteria within two days and I couldn’t put together why those three were contaminated when the procedure was done exactly the same for all the jars and that is a factor that could’ve definitely been it. I have not been purging my canner but I do know. That’s why we need people to continue to make videos even if they seem like they’re redundant because I’ve felt like I’ve watched so many of the same freaking videos doing the same freaking procedures just I don’t know why I do but when there’s pieces of the puzzle and videos like yours That makes it extremely helpful and very much worth it. Keep a lookout for ZoomFuture Labs videos in the near future. as I have found myself coming up with techniques and ideas that I have not seen anybody else do, and would like to share. Keep up the good work Sir
First time grower. Awesome video! Thanks.
Thanks a lot for all you are doing or us, baginners ;)
ok bro finally somebody said you don't need foil as long the filter is sanitized and dry. micropore works just fine until mold grows on it.
Dude says, "Have a dab," as I've just cooked the glass clean to do so.
Great timing, my dude, and even better videos.
Stay rad, my dude, and as someone who eats rice like bread, rinse the starch off first. It's easy easier, unless you just need to cool the rice off, I guess.
Any chance you could do a video on how you inoculate? Your videos are the best I’ve seen on this subject, by far
i go over it a bit in my video on still air box usage, i also have a short where i spawn a couple bags
Thank you very much for the vids your awesome
I have found Great value brand grains such as the Popcorn, and Brown Rice are great for myco projects.
I'm using great value rice right now!!
great info.. thanks
Best video eva 🤘🏽thanks so much, I’m trying great value rice for the first time and so far so good 😁🤘🏽 contam videos would be helpful too if you do happen to have a mishap in the future to see what it looks like (:
Love your vids! I use them for so many of my teks. Do you use one of the trivets with feet found on Amazon for the bottom rack?
Wicked video bro
thanks man
I use canning jars with brown rice flour and vermiculite
With a SHIP? This is a really unique idea, however you can’t check for contaminations at all so I would be a little sketched to put too many together in one tub
Cool video thank you. My only concern is thay the arsenic in the brown rice will end up in the mushrooms. To avoid this problem we cook our rice like spaghetti pouring off the excess water which takes a lot of the Arsenic away with it. Best of luck mate.
I loved your brown rice tutorial. Now, do you have a tutorial on taking a piece of mushroom and putting it on a petri dish with agar and then putting the mycelium into the jars? TY
walmart brand brown rice
Yo SWIM saw your comment somewhere, they said you were right, less is more! for Cultures that is!
Great video. How long after you let the bags cool do you seal them?
Exactly the same question I had when I watched the video. I also wonder if the risk of the bags exploding is that common even if the bags are sealed?
Careful taking the hot af jars out. I've had them crack and make a damn mess from the temp change when I set them on my counter....
I would love to see if you are best sealing the bags after sterilization... also, do they have an inoculation port, or how do you inoculate them next?
i dont seal them after I PC them they are sealed under vacuum from the PC and will stay good for many months. i usually inoculate it by dropping agar thru the top but u can poke a needle thru the side then cover it with tape u dont need an injection port.
@@MycoDogs wont the vacuum prevent that there comes air through the filter? great vid.
Some videos are to picky with every step but for me i dont measure i just go by a feeling. In total i spent…(rounded up)
9.00 for 18 grow bags
6.00 for 5 pounds of brown rice
13.00 one syringe (blue magnolia rust)
Free Dead sticks and leaves also old fruit peels
And now I wait.
What size mono tubs do you like to use per quart jar? Thanks for all the answers too. By the way!
if ur using 1 quart jar then i would only do a shoebox
I cooked the brown rice with maybe 3 spoons of liquid honey in a pressure cooker, all the way till the water is gone. (Burned the bortom of the cooker a bit). Cleaned a plastic box with alcohol. (Empty ice cream box). Put the rice in it. Put the lid on, placed the box outside in 0 to -1 degrees C just enough to let the rice cool. Then I completely skipped the part with sterillizing the substrate. I figured the rice is already quite sterile after being pressure cooked and the box from having been wiped with paper and alcohol. So I just added the spores from the syringe. I put it on my ventilated window board so the box had a steaming radiator under it. (Around 40 degrees C) . Then I put a card board shoe box over it so it was completely covered and dark. Waited 9 days then the rice was beautifully covered in clean fresh mycelium. Now just couple of minutes ago I have started the fruiting process in a grow bag. (I just put the ice cream box inside the bag with some water and sealed the bag. (after I had poured bottled water over the substrate and kept in fridge for 12 hrs) Hopefully I get a nice flush of Golden teachers in about 2 weeks. Maybe you need to sterililize the substrate in jars before adding spores with other strains, don't know. With golden teachers the jar cooking part to grow mycelium was obviously not necessary.
People have told me to also stearlize a lot I try to be over vigilant as I don't have a laminar flow hood or a still air box
Whoa whoa whoa "liquid honey??" Should have used solid honey. .. Wal-Mart Brand Solid Honey.
do you heat seal the ends after?
For those of you wondering can I do it in one bag, yes you sure can. Go buy crockpot liners, and walla. You don't have to order and wait for fancy heat resistant bags.
Great video with good attention to detail to the canning process. Is it possible to sterilize and truly "can" whatever grain used with a vacuum lid to be used at a later date? That way you can have a rack or two ready to go. I can anyway as a hobby mostly garbanzos Indian style.
yea once its sterilized it will last a very long time if u use ventless lids just leave them a little bit loose in the pressure cooker then tighten them when they cool
Thx@@MycoDogs
What size of tubs are you using at the end of your video? I noticed you have a hole on the short end I know there would be a hole on the other one but do you have any holes on the long side? And do you use one colonized bag for one of those tubs or more?
watch my cultivation tutorial playlist
Thanks
@MycoDogs Next time you're folding/rolling the bags, could you put the microphone closer to them? I couldn't quite hear them crinkle enough. Thanks!
Great videos and thanks for sharing all the knowledge! I made 8 quart jars of spawn, but I only need two at the moment. How long can the other jars sit without being inoculated? Also, If I let them sit, should I have a hole in the top of the mason jar lid plugged with polyfil so the rice can breathe, or sealed completely shut?
they can sit for a very long time at least a few months sometimes a few years, if ur saving them its best to not have a filter on it
Okay thanks. Last week I inoculated my first bag.
Today I checked it and I see a black growth in it. No mycelium, just a black piece of (mold maybe)?
Is this normal? Or should I throw away and start again?
@@SMASHERJPnot normal
Does the rice need to be completely dry before you put it in jars
Where is a good place to get spawn bags? Brand new grower and subbed yesterday!AMAZING STUFF!!!!!!
Amazon
Wal-Mart's generic brand is labeled Great Value.
For those that don't know.😉
What I didn't know before I saw this video, is that it comes in a 5# bag. But I have to have it shipped, because my closest store only stocks the 1&2# bags. So I also have to order enough groceries to get free shipping.
Are you tightening the lids on the jars all the way before putting them into the pressure cooker? I see you have micropore tape over a hole.. is that all that is needed to relieve pressure in the jar to prevent it from bursting inside the pressure cooker?
yeah if u have vents in ur lid you can keep them tightened down, if you are using unmodified lids you need to loosen it or they can break in the pc
@@MycoDogs But yet your lids were loose when you took the trivet off? Looks like you have vents in those jars.
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FYI: 1lb of semi-cooked brown rice is about 2.9 - 3 cups.
you and mycocat should collab 😂
Hey have you ever inoculated straight to ziplock style bags?
That's what I do now. It works great. I go ahead and use the gallon freezer bags, so I can fruit the in there as well.
So you’re not actually using the pressure cooker ?
You’re just boiling the water correct ?
can you prep the rice in a rice cooker?
So in that pressure cooker, the manufacturer says 12 qt of water which makes it difficult to do bags without then becoming submerged in water.So you're saying 3 qt of water is enough?It won't run out? Also if you use your trivit on top what did you have at the bottom?
are the bags a special type? if so wat?
are this wide mouth masons? how many grams of rice inside?
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if u have instagram shoot me a message on there or discord MycoDogs#7379
So after you rinsed and drained it, you said wait about 15 minutes and then you can bag or jar or up.
Mine at 15 minutes was still a little warm and moist.
I bagged it anyways like you said and there was a little condensation forming in the bag.
Is that okay?
I see he did not answer you. I was wondering the same? With other grain like popcorn there supposed to be hardly no moisture when putting in jar/bag. So I assumed this would be the same, but what was your outcome now that its been a couple weeks since your post? Did they inoculate fine? Thanks.
No they didn't. It developed mold and so I had to throw it away. I'm confident that you have to let the rice dry and so the 15 or 30 minutes is not accurate.
Also, while it's drying, get a big spoon and turn the rice over every few minutes.
He's running cold water onto the brown rice he boiled for 10 mins to arrest further cooking, and rinse away stray starches. Then he's letting it air dry. Brown rice takes 40 min to hydrate if you were cooking it for dinner. By only boiling it for 10 min( then stopping any further hydration by rinsing it with cold water) he's limiting the hydration of the rice grain for the mycelium's benefit.
Do I need to pressure clean it
So thats 2:1 water to rice or 2:1 rice to water?
Do you have liquid culture online?
Can I use precooked parboiled brown rice?
I did and it colonized great.
If the rice is ti stick you can wash it before cooking.
yeah just cook it a bit shorter u want it to crunch if u eat one
anyway to do this without a pressure cooker?
yeah you can steam it in a large pot but only jars not bags. just add 2 or 3 quarts of water to it and raise the jars off the bottom with something, jar lid rings work well for that. then put a lid on it and bring it to a boil, once its boiling let it steam like that for 120min. PGT has a video on his "broke boi tek" which is very similar to my rice preparation but he goes over how to steam sterilize it. He recommends 90 minutes but for steam sterilization that seems way too short in my opinion.
Just buy one. They last forever
aren't plastic bags don't get stuck to the pot?
Hi, do the jar lids need to be screwed all the way down (tight to the jar) before steam sterilizing?
If u have vents then yes but if ur using unmodified u need to leave it partially unscrewed or it can rupture the jar with the pressure
@@MycoDogs is this intended to sterilize the finished substrate? That is, the steam should penetrate the jar and sterilize the contents inside?! thanks in advance
@plamenconev3387 the temperature sterilizes the grain
@@MycoDogs is it possible to sterilize the grain with a tightly closed jar? I am considering after sterilization to make an air filter with polyfil!
if you want to use a filter drill a small hole and cover it with micropore tape or a filter patch polyfill works but its annoying. you want to add the filter before sterilizing because there is no sterile way to add it after too. the only reason u crack the lid is so the jar doesnt blow up from the pressure if there is no vent
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Ypu should save your grain water to use in your agar
na rice water sucks ive tried it i use standard mea for everything
I don't understand why you have to sterilise in a pressure cooker if the rice has been boiling on the hob, surely that would have sterilised it?
It is not sterile once it leaves the pot. You're transferring in open air, how would that remain sterile?
I tried this last night but I F up I did it for two and a half hours that's not good right???
ur fine
Will this work for gourmet mushrooms?
@user-iu2ce6ld1p yeah most types of mushrooms will grow on this, the fruiting substrate is what is different between species usually
What brand of brown rice is that?
Trader joes
You got a link for those bags
pegasusbags.com/ I believe they are 10T bags but I forget its been years sense I bought them. any of these will work tho, T filter is better for grain spawn A filter is multipurpose and B filter is for fruiting
How do you inculcate your bags with no injection port?
@@trasher1400 just wipe above the grain and stick needle in just tip. Inject lc or spore you should see it run down the front of bag so then you can see the action and not have to guess is it working if you inject in the middle
@@trasher1400 if Lc some guys inject and then mix the grain up
@@trasher1400 ooooo after inject just cover hole with tape and call it a day.
Can i use plastic jars?
if they are PP5 plastic yes, other plastic will melt in the PC
Thank you very much
How long do you simmer rice for ?
Do you just have one nail hole covered in micropore tape on your jars? Tight?
either that or i use unmodified lids and just slightly unscrew them
@@MycoDogs thanks! Is this your favorite tek?
yea rice is my favorite grain
I let my rice steam dry
i thought the standard for bags pressure cook was 2H30M
other grains yea rice sterilizes easier thats why you can steam sterilize it with the broke boi tek
Thanks for the no tin foil comment.
Thanks, lad. Much appreciated.
Brother you’d sound wiser if you didn’t drop F bombs.
Question, brown rice is not as nutrient-dense as rye grain, have you ever verified that the amount of blessed medicine in the mushrooms is less or more when using brown rice instead of rye grain?
My pressure cooker maxes out at 10 PSI, can I still sterilize the rice by increasing the duration ?
Uncle bens seems far better than this simply because you need the bag and thats it
No boiling, No prepping other packages or jars, no extra steps.
its much worse because its way too wet, you want ur rice to be hard and crunch if u bite it if its soft and feels like its cooked its way too wet for mycology. It'll work but the risk of contams are higher and its more likely to stall both of which are not good situations for beginners to find themselves in
I thought the same thing and it has wasted a large amount of my time. They take forever to colonize due to their wetness. I've had a ton of these bags just stall out. I've read that in 15 to 30 days your jar should be completely colonized well most of my bags at 30 days were only halfway colonized if that. If you only doing a small experiment then sure use the bags. But if you plan to have large yields do it right and spend the money on the jars and pressure cooker.
Uncle Ben's sucks, the worst of the pre cooked packs of rice on the market, unless you plan on making myco soup... They have changed the amount of moisture in their bags, they don't like being associated with " mushroom cultivation" and figured out how to make it a less desirable option... And not to mention 4times as expensive as great value brown rice and 6 times more expensive than dollar tree brown rice, if you don't have 30 minutes to cook, cool, and jar/bag then you are in the wrong hobby man, mushies take time...
Uncle Ben's tech works best when dumped into a Ziploc bag and then innoculate with agar, so the moisture content doesn't mess it up.
Lmfao ( if they do explode ) ?
People just start using grain that's the real deal!!
stop amateur hour!!
Using rice makes gluten free mushrooms. Many people are more gluten intolerant than they realize.
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Dude, clean your house.
Cope + seethe
Eat a shroom and you'll be happier, I promise
Though I doubt this user will read this, clean your mind of anger...anger leads to hate, hate leads to fear; fear leads to loathing in Las Vegas
@@M0RGAT0RY The house is a mess. My mind is not angry, therefore no fear. What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas.
But he's got the bottle of Dawn soap with the ducks on it. Cleaner than an oil tanker, huh?