How Much LC to Use? My Ideal Ratio of Liquid Mycelium Culture to Grain for Mushroom Spawn.

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    Over the last few years, I've received a lot of questions about how much liquid culture is needed to inoculate grain. In this video, I dive in to the factors at play and share my ideal ratio of liquid mycelium culture to grain in order to have the greatest chance of successful spawn generation.

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  • @JohnGeorge-pw2xo
    @JohnGeorge-pw2xo 2 місяці тому +85

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      @Caroljoyce-mp8sk 2 місяці тому +1

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      @DonnDenisse 2 місяці тому

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      @Wimruther-hk4zn 2 місяці тому

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      @VanRyan-bv7du 2 місяці тому

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  • @shaggygoatboy1125
    @shaggygoatboy1125 Рік тому +46

    3:50
    To get to the point.

  • @ScottWConvid19
    @ScottWConvid19 Рік тому +14

    There's no such thing as a stupid question. There are, however, stupid people and stupid people don't usually ask questions.
    But not all questions have a simple answer, yet you took this seemingly complicated process and simplified it for us. Thank you

  • @N9524Q
    @N9524Q Рік тому +21

    I do about 2 cc per pound of hydrated grain of wheat berry or brown rice or popcorn. So your recommendation seems to be on the high side. Usually fully colonized with one shake in 10 days to two weeks depending on the mushrooms. I usually stick to 2 different varieties of oyster and one of lions mane. Lions mane is definitely slower and may take up to 18 days. My conditions are at about 80° Fahrenheit. But I agree that it is a race with the mycelium usually winning

    • @ixxgxx
      @ixxgxx Рік тому +1

      Yeah I thought on high side too. So north spore 3lb bags about 6cc ?

    • @N9524Q
      @N9524Q Рік тому +4

      @@ixxgxx I make grain spawn most of the time in 1 qt mason jars. With 2 cc I've liquid culture. I use about 1/2 pound fully colonized grain spawn to 5 pounds of fully sterilized substrate

    • @Barbie.Boo1961
      @Barbie.Boo1961 Рік тому

      @@ixxgxxI just bought from pnw , I have 2 grain bags going, just starting to grown , it’s been about 13 days for one and 7 for the other, DO I NEED TO BREAK UP THE GRAIN? ITS AND ALL IN ONE BAG? I THOUGHT I WAS SUPPOSED TO JUST LET IT Colonize then break it up and mix the dirt through it…. Dang I with I could sit down with someone, bad dyslexia here. Lol, seriously though my dyslexia can be brutal.

  • @mr.ganja42O
    @mr.ganja42O 9 місяців тому +1

    I put in 20ml of B+ liquid cultrue in one grain bag(about 2pounds of grain) ( LC is over 7months old and been store in a wardrobe) and get strong mycelium growth within 72 hours of inoculation. So do as much you want :) you can literally use half of a ML and still get great success!

  • @raisnaix
    @raisnaix 8 місяців тому +1

    Great video brother. Your channel is coming along great.

  • @johnbauby6612
    @johnbauby6612 Рік тому +1

    I always appreciate and enjoy your vids even if the info is not new to me. Thanks for taking the time to make and post.

  • @michaelgillespie1206
    @michaelgillespie1206 Рік тому +7

    You don't have to use very much of the LC solution, the key is to shake your jars every two days, or your bags whatever the case may be, your grain spawn should be colonized within two weeks, ready for the next step, growing out on substrate.

    • @archieh4058
      @archieh4058 Рік тому +1

      IMO this is a misnomer, 2 weeks for what varietal of mushroom? Since we may or may not be growing the same thing, and more LC usually means a slightly faster cultivation period, i always say depending on your variety- it will take between 2 and 5 weeks for mycelium colonization

  • @travisherbermann7249
    @travisherbermann7249 6 місяців тому

    Really informative. Keep up the good work. I am very interested in learning about creating from dehydrated material.

  • @vtphoto1
    @vtphoto1 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for your instruction and supplies!

  • @TheTaylorsVideos
    @TheTaylorsVideos 6 місяців тому

    Definitely will be using your stuff soon, thanks

  • @andyfromtoystory7426
    @andyfromtoystory7426 Рік тому +34

    30cc of LC is absolutely insane for 5lbs, my 5ccs do just fine 😂

    • @jasonvicente3712
      @jasonvicente3712 Рік тому +6

      I agree 😂😅 a 12cc syringe I’ve inoculated 2 5lbs bags

    • @6hottk
      @6hottk Рік тому +12

      Seems like a rude way to state your findings.

    • @ricksanchez3204
      @ricksanchez3204 11 місяців тому

      Go make a channel then show us prove it instead of talking shit

    • @ricksanchez3204
      @ricksanchez3204 11 місяців тому +6

      Also this guy "doubles up" his LC so to speak, do you think that may have something to do with why he uses a lot? That's a sincere question not a put-down tho... Did you even consider that before saying it was insane or did you just see somebody doing something different than you do it and decided that's a good enough reason to try to insult him?

    • @BLACK_CAT_TRAVEL_AGENCY
      @BLACK_CAT_TRAVEL_AGENCY 9 місяців тому

      ​@@phillypharmerdepends on how fast you want it to spread

  • @AllThatIKnowNow
    @AllThatIKnowNow 3 місяці тому

    I mistakenly added 10cc of liquid culture to 500g (about 1 lb) of grain, and now it's like this snowy, large, white dimorphous shape. I had previously removed it from the substrate and grain, all in one grow bag and put it in a shoebox. Then I had to remove the lid of the shoebox tub because the white blob was up against it.

    • @Alexmw777
      @Alexmw777 15 днів тому

      sounds like a bacterial infection

  • @HaydenVanGundy
    @HaydenVanGundy 8 місяців тому +1

    What if you bring your grain below field capacity then added extra lc to adjust the hydration to proper field capacity

  • @JohnSmoke-ih1ow
    @JohnSmoke-ih1ow Рік тому +1

    Thank you

  • @sugargraham6868
    @sugargraham6868 3 дні тому

    Should the LC be at a certain temperature before inoculate in my bag?

  • @dany-922
    @dany-922 Рік тому +1

    I just thought of this, UA-camd it, and found this! Cheers man! I have Pink & Golden Oyster LC almost ready, so I just ordered a refill kit ;)

  • @ZeStaticWolf
    @ZeStaticWolf 9 місяців тому

    I feel like this is over kill you can do masters mix with 1cc with high chances of success. Even if it’s not fast, it’s prevents wet rot if you use that much.

  • @leeirwin6239
    @leeirwin6239 6 місяців тому

    I've put in about 5-7 cc into around a half full jam jar worth of millet.......so stressed I think my grain is too wet too. I'm on day 4.....do i shake the grains up every day? And my temperature checker/ hydration checked has a in and out setting the in setting says its hotter then in is....who do i do to check the temperature...lol? The in or out...thanks guys. So glad i found this channel....x

    • @GingeRenee
      @GingeRenee 2 місяці тому

      how did it end up working out? was the grain too saturated or did it end up working out well? would love to know what happened

  • @u8myufo
    @u8myufo Рік тому +3

    @OneEarth Mushrooms, informative video thanks. So given that a 10ml syringe would just about do a 5lb bag of substrate, could you not create say 500ml of homemade mycelium liquid culture from that one syringe of culture? Similar to that which a baker always has a culture of yeast in storage.

    • @GwrecksMachina
      @GwrecksMachina 2 місяці тому

      for a 3,5lb(1.6kg) it comes out to 20cc. 10cc of oyster liquid culture usually takes 21 days or so to colonize IME and 20cc around 1/2 that time. 5lb bag would take a LONG time with 10cc and based on his ratio the sweet spot would be about 25-30cc for a 5lb 2.2kg bag

  • @xxg0t3mxx
    @xxg0t3mxx 5 місяців тому

    I use 1cc per lb does the trick just got into agar though so hope it works out

  • @judyhowell7075
    @judyhowell7075 Рік тому +1

    My go to guy

  • @thelastrebelshow1627
    @thelastrebelshow1627 11 місяців тому +3

    What’s the best temperature to store inoculated grain jars at? I’m thinking 75 does that sound right?

  • @Peoky23
    @Peoky23 Місяць тому

    I bought a 5lb bag and put about 6ml in the bag is that too much?

  • @maklovin5253
    @maklovin5253 2 місяці тому

    2-3ml/cc per 200g rye grain? that is terrible…
    so a 1000g jar or a simple mason jar needs over 10cc of spores to inoculate that is overkill brother.
    1000g needs barely 1ml of spores, as 2-3cc per jar (what ive done) tends to colonize the jars within 3-4 weeks tops.

  • @The_Inca_Stargazer
    @The_Inca_Stargazer 2 місяці тому

    I don't use liquid culture, I got tired of it throwing off my perfect hydration. I use mycelium on petri dishes, I can use a whole dish per bag. You can't use too much, it won't affect your hydration at all, it's always perfect.

  • @ale.ktheo.g4394
    @ale.ktheo.g4394 2 місяці тому

    Can I pour the LC over the grains before sealing the bag, avoiding having to make an injection port?

  • @imohpius8956
    @imohpius8956 Рік тому

    Hello bro how are you doing, plz I need your advice. My sterilizing jar broke while I was sterilizing my LC.

  • @Mattysmeatsandeats
    @Mattysmeatsandeats Рік тому +1

    If you get a liquid culture from a reputable seller can you use the same method to make more liquid culture?

    • @bigtime4794
      @bigtime4794 Рік тому

      That's a good question I'm assuming in way easier than spores. I just LC 'd with 10 drops but I'm confident it will work. I'm not in any hurry

    • @dandy8308
      @dandy8308 3 місяці тому

      Yes

    • @LeonPhythian69
      @LeonPhythian69 8 годин тому

      Yep, Whack a few drops on a plate first to do a smear test and make sure the culture syringe didn't accidentally bring anything with it. You won't have to wait long to see if it did the bad stuff will show up quickly. If all is well make yourself some LC jars and expand away. Save yourself a fortune.

  • @Barbie.Boo1961
    @Barbie.Boo1961 Рік тому

    Hi, just started learning to grow mushies. I really need help. I don’t understand why they have to be in a sterile environment and sterilize air? Love your stuffies

    • @fisrtnamelastname3083
      @fisrtnamelastname3083 Рік тому +1

      Basically there is stuff In the air and environment that can and will try to grow in your medium. Sterilizing decreases the risk of things you don't want growing to grow

    • @ZeStaticWolf
      @ZeStaticWolf 9 місяців тому

      There ate spores from mold and bacteria in the air from movement, breathing, and other mold sources. That’s why some people buy respirators and goggles and Lysol everything in a 5 ft radius. When you innoculate anything you have to realize it’s the same perfect environment for molds and bacteria’s to grow so your trying to give the mushrooms a head start by creating a sterile environment with only them having a success rate!

  • @judyhowell7075
    @judyhowell7075 Рік тому +3

    Would you shake if adding spores?

    • @TheGreatLake1998
      @TheGreatLake1998 Рік тому +2

      Yeah, disperse your inoculate for more rapid colonization. You can repeat this process after the mycelium has spread through some of the bag. Again, dispersing for a faster track to full colonization.

    • @michaelgillespie1206
      @michaelgillespie1206 Рік тому +3

      If starting from spores, it's best to start them on agar, then isolate a vigorous strain of dikaryotic mycelium and use that to spawn your grain.

    • @judyhowell7075
      @judyhowell7075 Рік тому

      @@michaelgillespie1206 I understand but I’m leaving town for a week and will attempt that next!Thank you

    • @slimreaper7779
      @slimreaper7779 Рік тому +1

      Don’t use spores unless your using agar yr begging for contam

  • @NetsarimTheWatchman
    @NetsarimTheWatchman Рік тому

    I do 10ml LC for 1 gallon jars

  • @sabahhassan3140
    @sabahhassan3140 Рік тому +1

    I watch all your vedio and try to understand but I can't I need Arabic translatin all times I failed and failed and failed to grow mushroom thanks

    • @daphnecranes3009
      @daphnecranes3009 Рік тому

      If you can't grow them, why just buy some to save you the stress order for them it will be delivered to you.

  • @roy9161
    @roy9161 4 місяці тому

    Does anyone know where I can Buy Spores please... This is for medicinal use for me.. can anyone help me please??

    • @jhood8367
      @jhood8367 4 місяці тому

      I heard about a place called legends mycology thats got some lc syringes (they're called isolated syringes) great prices and pretty fast shipping. It's a way easier and faster start w a lc as opposed to spores.

    • @MikeDonaldson-eh2ru
      @MikeDonaldson-eh2ru 2 дні тому

      @@jhood8367 LC isn't really that much faster. I can get a fully colonized jar in just under 3 weeks with a spore syringe. Compared to like 2 weeks with LC. I find LC has higher chance of contamination and also has a higher possibility to make your spawn too wet.... things that a new person would struggle with.

  • @610231718
    @610231718 11 місяців тому

    I thought it was 448grams in a pound not 454. Math time, 28grams(in an ounce) x 16 ounces = 448g. if anyone can explain why he said 454 that'd be rad to unless it was a genuine mistake

    • @bmartin2304
      @bmartin2304 11 місяців тому +2

      There is actually 28.35 grams in an oz. we been getting ripped off all these years!

    • @SachaLotus
      @SachaLotus 9 місяців тому

      @@bmartin2304😂😂😂😂

  • @MarkWilliams-i7e
    @MarkWilliams-i7e 18 днів тому

    Schroeder Vista

  • @PPP-on3vl
    @PPP-on3vl Рік тому +1

    THE MORE THE BETTER

  • @n8n888
    @n8n888 11 місяців тому +2

    I feel like that's tooooo much lc.

  • @lordhaitian3853
    @lordhaitian3853 Рік тому

    Bro side note: You look like Jason Statham!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @crapisnice
    @crapisnice 11 місяців тому

    hi, another freeloader here, i have never made this but i think the volume of liquid culture should be taylored by the growth speed rate of different mushrooms and the time we want to wait. thanks a lot for this exploitative patron content when should be a team group of broadcasting instead youtube jesus

  • @journeytoascension7018
    @journeytoascension7018 Рік тому +3

    448 grams per pound. BASIC AZZ MATH.

    • @GlorifiedPizza
      @GlorifiedPizza Рік тому +4

      453.59 grams in a pound.

    • @420ramborip
      @420ramborip Рік тому

      close but not quite a lb.....

    • @610231718
      @610231718 11 місяців тому +1

      these people in your comments need to show us there math to get there numbers lol show your work

  • @bamba2046
    @bamba2046 Рік тому

    And no one asked why don’t you have a mic? Just saying.

  • @fattymcbastard6536
    @fattymcbastard6536 Рік тому +1

    I wonder if you can get away with a higher inoculation rate on grain prepared by the no soak/ no boil method. This is the method I use, and I wonder if the grain has the capacity to absorb a little bit more.

    • @ZeStaticWolf
      @ZeStaticWolf 9 місяців тому +1

      This is what I was wondering as well since he doesn’t soak his rye before boiling and pressure cooking. He might be forcing the grain to absorb the lc by starving them of liquid if so that’s kinda genius imo.