NEXT LEVEL Car Prep for the Track!
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Disclaimer: the actions performed in this video are executed by professionals or individuals that consider themselves professional on a closed circuit within the local regulations. - Авто та транспорт
1- Seats; get a seat that would support you throughout the ride and cornering and of course safety.
2- Harnesses; only recommended for track days and legal during tourist days.
3- Roll Cage - Adds rigidity and of course safety is our number one priority.
4- Suspension - minimum two way suspension. Adjusting compression and rebound.
5- Wings - Chicken wings from KFC to be precise. More aero more stability. Don’t rice out the car.
6- Engine Oil Cooler
7- DSG Cooler
8- Engine coolant pack
9- Advanced brake cooling
10- Better driver
Great to see more mk7’s on track! We make a functional wing and splitter for this platform, and we are working on brake cooling ducts specifically for the mqb chassis.
You know Misha and his team have a ton of experience on the track, their advice is backed up by possibly thousands of hours of track experience, I love learning from their expertise. Thanks for making videos like this.
The rear lip on a hatch and some passenger cars will help a lot even without a front splitter. Most cars are creating lift at such speeds and a simple thing like that or gurney will help a lot. It's enough for basic non-aero car.
Great to see you and George showing what you do to prepare the car - many thanks. I've had motorcycle suspension set up for me in the past and it made a huge difference - I think George has mentioned setup process in the past - would be great to cover the process for a car - from springs to shocks and setup process and geometry!
Also strut braces - my first car was a Mk1 Fiesta and was advised to get a strut brace and I note they are still a thing (E.g. Polestar 2 BST Edition 270) - when are they appropriate ?
Video on stiffer anti roll bars would be fantastic. There is very little technical content on UA-cam about these
Agree, especially because of the fact that a different antiroll bar can dramatically change the whole car. In my example, the stock 370z is set up for quite a bit of understeer from factory. Just by changing the rear antiroll bar for a stiffer one, the car suddenly has 0 understeer issues. It's just amazing what you can do with a simple and cheap mod.
6:50 if the coilover is 2-way adjustable it’s usually the LOWSPEED compression and rebound that you can adjust, not the highspeed
For highspeed (compression) adjustable you’ll need a 3-way
Indeed my mistake on the video..had a brain blackout moment 😂
Would be nice to see how and where the RS3 brake cooling parts are fitted when you do the next under the car shot. Thanks!
Yesss! Brilliant video, love these kinds of videos.
Thanks for the videos man..I always enjoy them
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Curious about under aero. I'd think for a track car the heavier duty Alltrack undertray might be useful. There's also parts like rear LCA covers, and other plastic covers for the trans tunnel and rear subframe.
Hot to get TÜV approval on the mods (including the Endless brake pads!) would make for a great video!
Endless pads are not TÜV-able. It's just that police or TÜV do not really care (yet).
Pagid and PFC pads can be put in the papers, though!
@@Ultrabenbooyah I have various carbon fiber body parts, aftermarket wheels, KW V3CS coilovers, endless pads, brakes from a different make, exhaust... dropped off the car at my Werkstatt with €400 and said to them "get everything into the papers, I don't care how". It was €500 in the end. Everything is in the Brief. I even got an extra page in the Brief :) #fuckthepolice
@@tocsa120ls nice. I've heard about some shops getting TÜV for Endless on the AP Racing brakes, but not on stock brakes yet.
@@sys-administrator that would be tax evasion
@@sys-administrator yes, then get caught and goodbye car.
Yeah man. The golf's gonna be ace. Cool video. ✌
these track prep videos are PERFECTION
Loving these educational vids!
With some RWD cars (think Viper) rear diff external rads are a must
If all goes well, this year im coming for the first time to the track, but i won't be upgrading my car yet. Especially given the fact that i'm a bloody beginner and i will be babying around the track to get used to it and start learning the basics of driving. I think for the first few couple of dozens of slow laps i should be fine with my new Abarth, as long as i'm not pushing it anyway.
However i would be really interested to know how i check tire pressure and if i should strictly go with manufacturer recomendations or have a bit higher or lower pressure. Also on this topic i would like to know if i need to have some sort of tool to check or even refill my tires right outside of the track or if i can go to a nearby gas station to do so.
Thanks for the breakdown of all the parts on the GTI. May I ask what size PROTRACK wheels are you running and tires? Thanks for all the great content. Hope to make it to the Green Hell one day.
Thank you for this vid. Very usefull for me
Habt ihr schon mal überlegt die Frontstoßstange vom GTI Clubsport zu montieren. Die hat eine offene Luftführung in die Radkästen. Das könnte das könnte auch noch zur Bremsenkühlung beitragen.
for most cars that dont have break cooling kits you can relatively easily build it yourself or have a someone build it for you.
the problem is that you have to cut your bumpers etc.. thats why most people dont do it unless they intend to keep the car forever
Is it really a good idea to fit the seatbelts for 2 people on an half cage, fixed normally with 3 M8 8.8 bolts per side on the rear wheelhouse? I never would use them. A full cage ok. And, for German street legality you need to take the stock lower mounting points for the belts in the rear.
Great info as allways
I like. Please more! Thank you George :)
Talk about wheel bearings and CV shafts. It seems to me that those things would need more servicing and preparation for a hard track use car.
Should you keep the stock "dust shields" in place if you're doing lots of track days? Do the shields hurt cooling? I know they like to trap little pebbles between the rotor and shield, sounds like the world is coming to an end! 😅
I would just modify them , You need a bit in place to stop the ball joint and tie rod rubber covers from melting
Are the airbags deleted in the steering wheel/car so they dont go off in a crash? I thought an aftermarket wheel should be used with a cage/seat/harnesses.
What components do you use to adjust camber castor and what settings for mainly road some track?
Super interesting how cooling the brakes is effective...
Bucket seats allows you more to feel the car (and hopefully react in time and correct)
Credits for the setup of the lights during the shooting of this video !
Regarding tyres: keeping an eye on tyre pressures and temps saved us a lot (destroying less tyres due to inproper use)
Tyre pressure video would be awesome!
Also, i'd like to know why you didnt drive in a 7.5 R yet?:D
For those with a MK7 those RS3 cooling ducts are under $100usd new, great value mod!
Another great video 👏👏
Have you guys ever ran titanium brake pad shims? If so, any change in brake fluid temps?
Ich habe mir auf der Nürburgring HP die FAQs, Sicherheitsregeln und Fahrordnung für die Touristenfahrten durchgelesen.
Zu Verboten von 4/5-Punkt-Gurten oder HANS Systemen habe ich nichts gefunden.
Everybody loves a fast Golf, so do I. Do the Pole Positions fit properly (at the shoulders with no compromise) a 193cm,100kg guy? They are beautiful. Finally, if you don't mind my suggestion, you may consider watching Steve Dinan's (now Carbahn Autoworks) video on how to tune a Mercedes AMG C63. I think you will find it interesting.
What about curtain airbags when installing the roll bar? Do you have to disable them?
I Had the chance to drive this car on the Nurb yesterday. For me it was the first time on Nurb and i do for my unique lap under 9 minutes BTG. This is due to that wonderful préparation. The car is very easy to drive and make you confident. She give you a lot of feeling. 120% of pleasure. Thanks to @misha charoudin for the car and for the picture 😉
@mgcharoudin do you use / recommend Polyurethane bushings? What kind of tyres are you using? (i have found an older video about this but an update might be usefuf)
I would have bet that you went with a big brake kit for track use especially considering the fact that the stock brakes sucks on the GTI, i do have the RS3 ducts, do thay make that much of a difference?
Vid before this, says they do.
Hey Misha! This is great video and a great series, to be honest I was waiting for such videos! I've got a couple of questions about bucket seats, harnesses and cages/roll bars. Is it safe in your opinion to go with bucket seat and harness in case where original seat has an airbag in seat? Would the airbag system work i.e. other airbags would deploy during the accident if the original seat is missing? The case is car that is daily driver which is driven on track pretty often. Also another question about brake cooling like the pipes you've shown: if I haven't got access to 'fresh air' and I don't want to cut my bumper then would it make sense to place the pipes behind some cooler? My reasoning about this is: there should be airflow there, the air behind oil cooler will have higher temperatures, but still it would be lower than brake pad/rotor/caliper temp so it would cool down the brakes eventually, but not as efficient as 'fresh air'?
correct me if i'am wrong. but you can remove the original seat+airbag but you have to add a resistor so the car thinks it still has seat airbags. if you have an error code none of the airbags will go off..
@@thijss1272 ye you can do that. On the other hand I'm afraid that I could mess something up or the insurer would found out about this after crash and could raise an issue to not pay for the damage, so I'm not sure if that's the best way to go?
It'd be nice to have rear facing seats in the rear with all that extra space for daily use. Like some jump seats that are used in the Tesla Model S.
11:23 great point on every aspect of the car. Don't add a front or rear spoiler if you don't also do the other side. Don't do a front strut brace if you won't add a rear strut brace. Don't just do stiffer stabilizer front, but rear one as well. Etc. In front or rear heavy cars, the focus might shift a little bit, but it's still a good rule of thumbs to always implement improvements not just on one, but both axles.
The worse "offense" in that regard is when you see an already front-heavy car with removed rear seats etc. Dude, you've just made your weight balance worse, lol. Like with this Golf, if you're at least going to use the feed space to add a cage, which also adds weight (balance) back, that's a good deal... but not with a front heavy car and a completely emptied rear.
Further improvements for front heavy cars would be carbon or GFK hood and/or fenders, LiPo battery, etc. - I decreased front weight of mine by about 30, 40 kg, and while it's still front heavy, that was a MASSIVE improvement in driveability.
One point regarding sway bars / stabilisers, this is certainly an acception to the rule.
Same point for stripping weight out of a vehicle, this can be accommodated for with set up. Some of the fastest FWD time attack cars in the world don't have a 60/40 weight distribution, or even close to it. Your point around relocating items such as battery etc to the rear and adding lightweight front panels on a front heavy car is a good idea, and often overlooked on cars like the GTI.
More like this!!!!❤❤❤
Always thanks 👍
Can you post a spec list of the golf? Are this upgrade fenders?
Change AC cooler to new one helps much . Old is destroyed by stones and bugs.
@mishacharoudin would you say that a Golf GTi or even Golf R is better than a Audi TT Quattro with the same engine (~230hp) is a better base for the ring?
From where did you have the cage? Was it self built? Any recommendations who to address for a BMW e82 125i?
YES. To everything about this video. ❤️ 🍻
-heavily biased MQB owner & fanatic 😎
thumbs up thanks for this!
George is a good lad. Great to have him on hand. Be cool to do a video on his car?
Миша спасибо!
damn car looks great
Does anybody know what wheel stud conversion kit they have on there?
Tire pressures plz!!!
Love your vids
Suspension, All your cars look like they will rub as soon as the driver tries to corner. Yet it does not! Knowing how to set up suspension. Because those wheels and tires look mm from touching.
Thoughts on intercooler upgrade for a turbo car to get more consistent horsepower?
Much needed for any turbo car. This is very well known! You wouldn’t regret doing it that’s for sure
misha, how hard is it to homologate tunned cars on germany? cheers
Not too hard! Not all the mods can go in the papers tho
What about the exhaust?
7:53 That's funny because XYZ is an actual suspension brand lol
Made me chuckle too 😂
Good video
What brand of pads/discs would recommended to at least survive a lap or 2 on the ring? (at a reasonable price) My car is for daily use but if Misha is ever to drive it i don't want to drive back home with warped discs n all :P
Anything aftermarket, really.
@@mgcharoudin yet you had a UK Golf with aftermarket brakes that failed on you totally... what went wrong there?
@richardharrold9736 good point. Let's say "good well known brands in good condition" 🤣
DBA, Stoptech, Tarrox, Ferodo
Pagid pads (e.g. RSL29) do offer a good performance at a quite reasonable price. They are squeaky as a train tho 😂 Otherwise maybe you should consider something like Ferodo DS2500.
Tire pressure video would be very nice!
What are your exact Protrack one wheel & tyre sizes?
Where can i get this rear Wing?
I dont understand weel why you remove kit brake cooling RS3. That GTI looks amazing !!
I think their plan is just to install it
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Anyone knows the intro music? :)
So, i was looking at the price list for renting the golf and the insurance excess.... Does it mean I have to have $32,000 available on my credit card to rent?
It means you need to have it avail. if you completely total the car. If you damage a rental you only pay for damages caused up to the excess.
Since when is a 5 point harness not legal during TF?
15:33 will You make such a sets for sale for golf 7 ? :D
W8, is a 6 point seatbelt not allowed during TF?
He said 5 no. I wonder why. Thought it is normal to explain such weird logic.
TüV make the rules not us, legally only the 4 point comes with approval the 5th strap doesn’t. German street law applies to tf as it’s a public road during this time so that rule stands
For next video do blinkers tutorial for bmw drivers.
Which VW red is that?
Good evening carmrade!
Took my mk7 GTI to the track and my brake fluid started boiling like 10 laps in lol
What fluid though? Fresh hi-temp brake fluid is probably the cheapest and simplest upgrade you can do before a track day
It s bad to have a air suspension on a track car?
Like part 1.. only better still 👍
Spec list please 😊
The RN action is not on the m4? 😢
Haha sorryyy
I'm a mountain biker and doing freeride and downhill in the bikepark. You could spend 650€ easy for a rear shock. I'm really wondering about the cheap and shitty stock shox for 40€ for a car. This can't be any good. It is a joke. Sadly there is nothing better available for my dacia dokker, lol.
good British sense , noice
Golf R mk7 please...
Hello! Is Hans helmet allowed?
On tf Helmet yes Hans no
Ik geniet van mijn auto zo als die is, ik wordt toch niet de "nieuwe" Max Verstappen door mijn auto aan te passen.😉
Dry sump ?!
It was a little bit wet because we’d just cleaned it but normally it’s quite dry when it’s not raining of course
I hope Elon Musk buys the car tuning companies next and deletes all popcorn tunes.
the only negativity you should have in your life. lol
I wished to have the driven and the behind the scenes videos more mixed.
Craving for onboard content for the forth consecutive day in a row yet.. 🥲
I wanted to post an onboard today, but was whole day filming the track walk. This one was already there and easy to post. You'll have more onboards soon! :D
Misha is probably the only UA-camr when he say that “we are going to discuss it in another video… “ he surely do another one…🫡