Does a Ketogenic Diet Help Diabetes or Make It Worse?
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- Опубліковано 27 лип 2024
- Keto diets put to the test for diabetes reversal.
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This was the final video in my 7-part keto series. Be sure to catch up on the rest if you missed any:
• Is Keto an Effective Cancer-Fighting Diet? (nutritionfacts.org/video/is-Ke...)
• Keto Diet Theory Put to the Test (nutritionfacts.org/video/keto-...)
• Keto Diet Results for Weight Loss (nutritionfacts.org/video/Keto-...)
• Is Weight Loss on Ketosis Sustainable? (nutritionfacts.org/video/is-We...)
• Are Keto Diets Safe? (nutritionfacts.org/video/are-k...)
• Keto Diets: Muscle Growth and Bone Density (nutritionfacts.org/video/Keto-...)
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• How Not to Die from Diabetes (nutritionfacts.org/video/how-...)
• Plant-Based Diets and Diabetes (nutritionfacts.org/video/Plan...)
• What Causes Insulin Resistance? (nutritionfacts.org/what-cause...)
• Diabetes as a Disease of Fat Toxicity (nutritionfacts.org/video/Diab...)
• What Causes Diabetes? (nutritionfacts.org/video/what...)
• Plant-Based Diets for Diabetes (nutritionfacts.org/video/plan...)
• Eggs and Diabetes (nutritionfacts.org/video/fish...)
• Fish and Diabetes (nutritionfacts.org/video/fish...)
• Diabetics Should Take Their Pulses (www.nutritionfacts.org/video/...)
• How to Prevent Prediabetes from Turning into Diabetes (nutritionfacts.org/video/How-...)
• Curing Painful Diabetic Neuropathy (nutritionfacts.org/video/curi...)
• When Drugs & Diets Don't Lower Diabetes Deaths (nutritionfacts.org/video/when...)
• Reversing Diabetes with Food (nutritionfacts.org/video/reve...)
• Diabetes Reversal: Is It the Calories or the Food? (nutritionfacts.org/video/diab...)
• Is Ginger Beneficial in a Diabetic Diet? (nutritionfacts.org/video/is-gi...)
• Benefits of a Macrobiotic Diet for Diabetes (nutritionfacts.org/video/benef...)
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How does the Keto industry fund and design studies to make low-carb look better than high carb?
Feed the high-carb group marshmallows and slices of ham. 😄 no kidding, see here:
ua-cam.com/video/i1TSJyRIbj4/v-deo.html
NutritionFacts.org high dose niacinimide plus berberine plus an organic low carb diet will take care of insulin resistance.
Can you do one on red wine.🍷
Thank you for repeatedly beating down the keto diet nonsense with facts of nutrition!
_”That’s like Faith healing someone out of a wheelchair by making them lie in bed for the rest of their lives”_
Savage
I will start using all these analogies lol
@@lennonpaiva7058 Same here, great analogies indeed.
Problem is when someone can't even understand simple analogies. (I've had it happen many times sadly)
i applaud you sir for raising awareness of this on your channel consistently. its an extremely important issue , keto approach is being used very widely in the UK currently and is endorsed by the NHS Royal college of GPs
If you are unable to donate simply taking the time to read my campaign is still greatly appreciated🙏
www.gofundme.com/f/dedicated-vegan-striving-to-help-others
The problem is this simply isnt true. Greger is confounding temporary phenomenon with the underlying pathology.
'fasting' for a week results in exactly the same temporary response to glucose. The question is what happens to *actual insulin resistance* on a low carb diet or fasting? It improves.
Greger doesnt address this.
A recent study by the US military found that a three month Ketogenic diet found that *Insulin resistance was improved by 48%* compared to controls.
I wonder why Dr Greger doesnt mention that?
🤯🤯🤯🤯Every day I feel like their is conflicting information. It's exhausting, but I appreciate learning something new!!
🥴 yes.
Looking for remedy for my mother.
Yep, my cousin has diabetes and was on keto diet for 6 months and didn't need any more medication saying that it reserved it. Well he did a glucose tolerance test and it was way worse than before when was not on the keto diet. He got pretty sad after that.
I hope that he is doing better now on a much healthier diet.
Sugar is bad. Why would anyone think to want to go back to it anyway? Dr.Berg says eat 7-10cups of veggies not extremely high fat like most ppl doing keto do it wrong anyway. But it is a lifetime diet to manage the issue of carb intolerance that diabetes have it won't make you reverse it to become tolerant again but meds don't cure or fix it either
The lesson. Share this video
@@sun-xue-ren This is not anecdotal data trying to prove a point. @GetTheKnife is trying to offer a relatable story about the actual data Doctor Greger just presented, you unintelligent and socially inadequate reptile.
This is normal. Your body is fat addapted on a LCHF diet. You need to eat at least 100 grams of carbs for 3 days before the OGTT. Ask him to fo that and then do the test again. But to be honest, just stick to keto. Veganism will just kill him a little slower.
Greger is a charlatan. IMO he should be in jail.
Rubbish. I’ve been on Keto for just a few months, reversed my type two diabetes and I am no longer taking insulin or medication, my A1C went from 9 to 5.7 and my blood sugar is always between 70-85. Funny how all of the critical comments of this video are hidden under the “newest” filter while all the bot comments are the first shown hahaha.
My mother definitely lost 25kg and reversed her type 2 diabetes. She has done the hard work, and enjoys high carbs here and there but has found Keto food to be way more fulfilling. Yes her blood sugar level rockets because she was sensitive, but that was only at the start of reintroducing carbs - people would rather tare it down than believe a human will adapt to it's conditions. High BGL should not be the aim, and using it as the argument is far from Keto and just stupid.
I can say that when I first started to add carbs back, I would notice diabetes symptoms immediately via dry mouth and excessive urination. It would go away if I worked out that day. A few weeks in and the symptoms are mostly gone even when not working out
You eased you system back slowly, using exercise. Good work! I'm going back to a whole foods diet, but this time trying to be more careful about not taking in too many carbs. Both fat and carbs are easy to over do.
it's called the Randle Cycle. it protects your cells from glycative damage, at the cost of red blood cells (and eventually atherosclerosis, as there's only so much damage the red blood cells can absorb).
the Randle Cycle activates whenever you mix fat and carbs in high amounts. fat is essential, carbs are not. the choice is simple.
@@uberneanderthal from wiki I gather both carbs and fatty acids try to out trigger each other so I can imagine that a meal with lots of fat and carbs might be a bad idea if one of the two will circulate in the blood while the other is being used.
@@Rene-uz3eb correct. but note that only fat is stored inside the cells, while blood is stored exclusively in the blood until it can be quickly used. the entire purpose of the Randle Cycle is to protect the cells from glycative damage. remove glucose (i.e. all carbs) from the diet, problem solved.
also it doesn't matter if the fats and carbs are in the same meal, as they can take up to 72 hours to fully metabolize.
@@uberneanderthal the Randle cycle is stil being researched, my interpretation is that it's simply about the body choosing to process primarily one fuel at a time rather than allowing both at the same time, which would require say additional balancing methods because you can't just double the energy supply if you have both fatty acids and glucose available. So if you eat a 1000 calories meal, whether those come primarily from fat or half carbs and half fat shouldn't really matter, the body will absorb one or the other first from the blood and then switch to the other. Technically if the first was fatty acids, then you might think the extra time the glucose stays in the blood is detrimental, but at a fixed absorbtion rate it turns out to be the same if you had 1000 carb calories or 500 fat + 500 carbs. So I think the importance of the RC is overrated.
Used to believe this whole carbs make you fat thing, but now I eat as many whole food carbs as I want and look and feel better than ever! 🙏🏼😄
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from your name i assume you are an anthlete, so you burn as much as you consume, so yes, for you a lot of carbs is not as bad as for many other people that spend most of their days not moving much. i've been eating a lot of crap food in the past (all that crap food, like nachos, icecreams, cakes, etc are very rich in carbs usually), and it made me pre-diabetic. i stopped for few mnths, sticked to healthy food - meat, fish and veggies, and said no to pizzas, pastasm sugar and bread, and i can feel much healther now and my weight has been on decline. this video is BS. it shows verys short-term reaction adn we can't rely on that. in the long run, excessive carbs are the killer. see american diet and obesity there
@@XAE_A_Xii I wasn’t very physically active until I got over my condition. It was the diet rich in “whole food” carbohydrate rich foods like whole grains, sweet potatoes, fruits, and vegetables that actually allowed me to lose the weight and get to a place where I could be quite active.
As for the foods you listed as carbohydrate rich, most of them contain just as much if not more calories from fat than carbohydrates. however I should emphasize, the name of the game is not fat vs carbs, but more so Whole Foods vs non Whole Foods.
The civilizations that have the longest life expectancies and greatest health quotient eat a diet that is rich in whole food carbohydrate rich foods as well and diabetics who follow in their footsteps massively decrease their need for insulin, and many times even stop it entirely.
I know that I could never change any one’s mind with a UA-cam comment so I don’t expect anyone to whole heartedly accept what I say. I just want to point to the scientific consensus and show that “carbs” in and of themselves, are not the problem. It very much depends on the source.
I know this felt like an essay trying to show you how wrong you are, but that’s not the intention at all. Just want to bring a broader perspective to another fellow brother/sister on planet earth. Have a great day my friend and God bless! 😊🙏🏼
carbs raise insulin the most, insulin is the fat storage hormone, unless you don't get the fat vitamins then your end up emaciated
@@XAE_A_Xii nope
I think this happened to my neighbor... She went on the Atkins diet for a while. Soon after she was a diabetic and put on 2 insulins. I always felt that it had something to do with it.
Oh my goodness! I thought that things like that could happen but I had never heard a story of it happening before! I hope she is doing better on some other diet now.
@Danny J. I understand what an anecdote is ;) Based on the science in this video, me thinking that it seemed connected to her stretch on Atkins, seems possible.
Atkins is not a Keto diet...
Your neighbor must have been overweight if she attempted the Atkins diet. BEING OVERWEIGHT CAUSED the type 2 diabetes. It's due to fat blocking the cells that otherwise would absorb the carbs/glucose that the body typically uses as fuel. The glucose remains in the blood stream, and becomes SYMPTOMATIC for diabetes but does not CAUSE diabetes. The fat does. So keto is the worst case scenario for a diabetic patient.
Also, it takes YEARS trio develop type 2 diabetes......
@@myggggeneration She was maybe 15-20lbs overweight. Went to the drs regularly. Walks with a walker due to MS. Went on Atkins. Lost some weight. Went off Atkins... Not sure exactly how much later, but I know it was less than 4 months, at her next appt she was put on 2 insulins. She's also not doing well on the insulin. She doesn't eat sugary foods often either. I personally don't think the Dr should've went right to insulin, etc... but that's a whole other subject.
When I listen to some of the people here on You Tube talking about how good Keto is I feel like I am watching the Walking Dead.
@Nature Lover Media 😂😂😂
Come on, how good is eating a third of Cream on a pint of Cheese with Sour Cream with a slab of Bacon, your Arteries and Heart, are screaming for Help,!! help us please ....
@@mattwhite9823 To be clear, many recommend dairy-free,, and certainly not eating what you describe - that's hyperbole and inaccurate.
No more unsightly finger stub!!!
Mic I enjoyed your video on ending carb fear.
T2D here. Doing Keto and IF. Took my cinnamon and Berberine at bedtime because my sugars just haven't been falling, not even after eating nothing since 4pm the previous day. The Dawn Phenomenon they call it. Finally, my blood sugar came down 40 points. I went ahead and has my coffee with just cream, holding off until breakfast for 3 more hours. Checked my blood sugar before breaking my fast. Clear up 50 points. I went on my walk. Still ugly high. I'm here to for report that the Keto diet, even with IF doesn't always work. What it does prove for myself is that fat is the culprit. Time to try something else.
@@debramccawley1714 Keto for about 5 yrs, and the blood pressure just kept going up Went back to Macrobiotic diet and within weeks, it's dropping back.now you will tell me 5 yrs wasn't enough time?
@@debramccawley1714 Huh? So your reply to my sharing how my experience is different, is to tell me that everyone is different? Not sure what that adds to the convo. But ok.
@@debramccawley1714 You are one of the "If it worked for me, it means it HAS to work for everyone" people. And, "If it doesn't, it means they did something wrong." Okay, enjoy your world.
You know what's ironic? I followed the US dietary guidelines and ended up with T2D at the age of 38. I went on the keto diet and reversed my disease and have never felt better.
Have you seen the Canada Food Guide? It shows what can happen when doctors and scientists are allowed to do their jobs without as much animal agriculture influence as we have here in the states. The WHO has come out and said that meat (especially processed meats) are carcinogenic.
Have you googled "keto and mortality"? Keto increases all-cause mortality by more than 30%.
@@Spock_Rogers the WHO also said that COVID wasn't an issue in 2019 and yet millions of people died. The Canadian Food Guide is based on the US's dietary guidelines, and guess what? Diabetes and metabolic syndrome has been increasing ever since. You can continue to say that meat causes cancer, but show me a randomized control trial as opposed to a epidemiology study. Correlation does not equal causation.
@@pinkjennipoo Eating meat is choosing to contribute to unnecessary animal suffering and slaughter. 🕊️💕🌱
@@Spock_Rogers Did you know that the US kills 7 billion animals a year to protect your agricultural farms? Not only that, but 1/3 of the bees die because of all the chemicals sprayed onto crops. So you choosing to eat plant-based is causing more deaths than eating animals.
Keto is really bad for even more health areas. For me, it destroyed my heart arrhythmia.
After a few years now on a plant based diet with low fat, the heart got back to normal.
back in the day, they used to treat diabetes successfully with honey and sugar, go figure... thanks Dr Greger!
And rice and fruit meals: Dr. Walter Kempner.
@@tamcon72 ty
Let me guess... it makes it worse!
Lol, when titles like this are on this channe, the answer is quite predictable.
Yep and veganism is the answer with supplements, lots and lots of supplements.
@@kirangovind4934 how many of them, dozens, hundreds, thousands? A lie doesn't became truth even if it's repeated a million times
Greger is simply wrong here. Ketogenic diets, in clinical trials, imorove insulin resistance. Greger is using a temporary response to glucose to extrapolate out to IR. When IR is studied directly, it improves after a low carb diet.
@@B.H.1987 Yes. I realised that Greger was producing promo videos in his 'fish and diabetes' video. Pulls up titles of Six meta-analyses (which concluded no association) , and Greger pulls *one study* out of *one meta-analysis* and flashes up the content. That's not how you convey the accurate state of science to your viewers.
This is now the first video I send to any keto proponent on the internet who claims keto can revert diabetes! Thanks for a funny and entertaining video!
Me too!
Unfortunately they will reply that they weren't studying "real" keto, and they feel great.
😁 And this is my reply..... www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/?term=ketogenic+diet
Literally just finishing up my six egg scrambled eggs with mushrooms and about a 1/4lbs. of bacon. and laughing.
laughing.
I don't need a doctor spouting faux arguments about how this "may" or that "might" be something when reviewing studies and then hawking it as some kind of factual finding.
I know it works because I changed my diet and quite literally every aspect of my health improved with bloodwork and diagnostic metrics to prove it.
@@JonGriffinMusician No, unfortunately some of us follow a keto diet and *actually* feel great.
This editing is very engaging!
This video seems to be the "missing link" in the rabid discussions on LF vs HF diets in relation to diabetes. This should not be a 4 year old video. It should be front and center.
Eric Berg pretends he never saw this video.
I don't blame him because it's absolute nonsense...
Eric Berg really bugs me. I’m sure he has read a lot about nutrition but he calls himself doctor and everything about his channel indicates that he is a doctor giving advice on how to prevent and treat disease and improve health with food, but he isn’t a doctor. He’s a chiropractor who’s never been to medical school.
@@Indiegaze, being a doctor doesn't help, as medical schools don't provide much of nutrition trainings.
oskar tang Yeah they don’t teach enough nutrition, but the conversion of ingested matter into different processes and chemical reactions in the body is insanely complex and we still struggle to understand a lot of it. A medical degree gives you deep knowledge of the body and how it works and a good foundation for understanding nutrition when you study it further. Laying someone on a table and cracking their back won’t do that. You can tell that about Eric Berg. He’s read about a lot of things and has superficial knowledge in subjects, but he doesn’t have that deep understanding of the body. When he tries to go deep he usually gets something wrong .
tang true but he is misleading people by referring to himself as a Dr.
Still 6 years after, and I as a T1D disagree, but with a plant based keto diet. I even made it through the police academy in my country and aced every physical test without suffering any complications in the process or even a year after.
Type 1 and type 2 are so completely different though. My type 2 is disappearing with one meal a day fasting. Doesn’t seem to matter how much I eat as long as I don’t snack continuously, keeping my body in insulin production mode.
@@modelsupplies true, completely different. T2D is totally reversible. The closer you get to a WFPBD, the better.
Also, I'm sure the plant based diet has less saturated fats than a regular diet, which it's the key factor here. The ketogenesis diet promotes the comsumption of FATs, which in animal products tend to be saturated, different from let's say avoicado fat. Glad to read you're doing well.
I did the Keto diet for 7 months. I lost 50 lbs. I thought it was incredible at first! I felt lean and the compliments kept me going.
Trouble in paradise started when I had a minor operation. My blood had trouble clotting! I small procedure turned into a very painful hematoma because I was Vitamin K deficient for the past 7 months despite supplementing!
I started having chest pains and knew my heart was getting to its limit with all the animal protein and fat. Months of fearing bananas but embracing butter in my coffee was taking its toll.
Then I noticed that as I tried to transition off, I would get severe headaches when I ate a more carb heavy diet. I knew I had done something to my body that was not healthy.
My body was able to start processing carbs normally after a transition period of a couple months. I am glad I stopped when I did (better sooner). I hope others stop this unhealthy diet and move to a healthier alternative before it’s too late.
I wish more people would accept criticism about keto. Long term, its bad to deprive your body of anything for that long. Sugar, salt even. Most people who don't accept criticism about keto say stuff like "oh well its better than being overweight!" Yeah, sure! You could say that about bulimia too...still doesn't mean the way you're losing weight is healthy for your body.
Id like to learn more about how it affects mental health. I've seen countless antidotes online from people with anything from mild depression, to bipolar disorder say they've had their moods improve since they started keto
Jess I will say that I did avoid blood sugar spikes and crashes so I pretty much didn’t have “Hangry” episodes while on Keto. But I found a simple fix when i ate more complex carbs and avoided eating too much at a time. The crash would be much harder if I had a large meal. Just my experience from a “mood” perspective.
@@brocklee2458 I also did the keto diet, even longer than you did. Luckily for me I didn't have any life threatening events. However, I have a lot of damage to heal from. I've been vegan for a little while but I only started a true HCLF diet very recently. At first I was getting heart burn, gas and bloating with everything I ate. Now, since only a few days, I can eat a whole meal of bean and rice burritos with no heart burn, gas or bloating. If feels like a miracle. I'm healing! The weight is stubborn, but it's coming off slowly. I finally feel good enough to start being more active.
I was ok before keto, no health complaints. I was maybe at most 15 pounds over weight. After keto I gained 60 pounds, had aches and pains, difficulty breathing, fevers and light headedness. It was awful. During keto, I got taken aside at work one day, and told that a customer complained of my breath. After that I had to go to the office and swish with listerine and they were watching me. Treated me like I was nasty and gross. I'm so glad that chapter in my life is over.
@@brocklee2458 but sv3ridge is on carni diet since 4 years
Godonichia Augustus ....and? Has he published his blood work?
I eat whole food plant based and love Dr Greger, but I would to understand how organisations like American Diabetes association say low carb is OK. Is it all about symptom management?
Because as bad as Keto is, it's better than the SAD diet.
MegaVegan is right, the standard american diet is so terrible that most people that switch to keto actually change for the better! If keto is making people eat less refined sugars and processed food, then great.
You should watch What The Health!! They answer just that and more!
Does the American Diabetes Association say that low carb diets like Atkins or keto are okay? If they do, that shows they are even more corrupt than I even thought. From what I can tell, they are only corrupt to the extent the other disease advocacy groups like the American Cancer Society, American Heart Association, etc. Which is pretty damn corrupt, but pushing Atkins or keto would put the ADA over the top!
They flip flop all the time due to industry pressures. But the science is concrete: ua-cam.com/video/BcHHDmuyPv4/v-deo.html
Thank you for all your videos!
This is an important series, hopefully a lot of people will watch it
Rachelle B this is a fake comment from mr burns himself. Seriously wake up people!!
@@hawky5609 lmao you're insane
smithers im home!
I did. I am one of those who were told animals are healthy to eat😂
I was a Vegan for several years, through time I found myself constantly hungry, I was eating all day long chasing my hunger, gaining weight, getting depressed, I began to realize that all the fruit smoothies, pastas, rice, oatmeal, breads, cereals, potatoes and the vegan processed "meats" which were the mainstay of my diet (coupled with the veggies) were making my insulin go through the roof, and causing havoc on my system metabolically. When I switched to a keto diet which is high fat, medium protein meats, eggs and seafoods coupled with the veggies, and lower carb fruit-like the berries my whole world changed, my hunger ended, I lost 25 pnds in six weeks, I feel amazing, and would not go back to high carb grains, starches and fruit for anything.
I am vegan, and my hunger goes away in the middle of my meal that i fail to finnish, and i have to force myself eating a little bit more, fiber stops you from hunger, so personally, i dont believe that you ate veggies(or too few), only full proceesed food, like white rice, smoothies, pasta, and vegan junk food, i eat a whole salad plate, legumes with brown rice for dinner, whole oatmeal with banana and berries, with avocado and toast in breakfast, launch the same as dinner in less quantities, i eat a ton of fiber in the diet, which makes so that sugar never spikes; i think that your problem is never eating enough fiber and too much preceess and refined food, even if its vegan, it is bad and not recommended, french fries are vegan and still incredibly bad for health.
@@Voltaje_YT What you are saying about 'fiber' isnt true, my dad has diabetes 2 and it doesnt matter how much 'fiber' he eats there is zero difference between brown and white rice, whole wheat or white bread when it comes to blood sugar spikes, and all of these foods push blood sugar through the roof, I know this b/c weve done many comparisons with my dads glucose tests one hour later when he tests his blood sugar, also, being on a STRICT hardcore diet like you are outlining is not sustainable long term, I know b/c I started out great and ended not great at all, I got to the point of being constantly hungry and grazing all day, I was hurting myself and in denial..
Have a friend who has been doing keto for a year and has lost a lot of weight but she has new issues like low iron and the inability to handle taking vitamin C that she didn't have before keto. Then there is the issue of increased cholesterol levels from all the high fat animal products that folks who do keto seem to not want to think about.
On a side note Type 2 diabetes is highly preventable. Our son was born Type 1 and on insulin beginning as a baby. His pediatrician was SDA (Seventh Day Adventist) and we had just become vegetarian in the 70's (which was vegan/plant based is called today) and she noted abstaining from animal products was best for diabetics and non diabetics.
You need to wake up
@@bluellamaslearnbeyondthele2456 You need to not be rude. Yes, even if you disagree.
low iron means your friend isn't eating enough red meat.
and yes, you need very little vit C on a keto diet, precisely because carbs and vit C compete for the same GLUT receptors. the fact that keto requires less vit C is one of its many benefits, as vit C produces oxalates that are damaging to the body.
and cholesterol is not an issue, unless it's too low.
Is this specific to type two, or does keto make both types worse?
Special thanks to you(r team) and especially your German translator Markus Tschögl! I need to show this to my mother in law asap! She might finally be motivated to make a change drastic enough to change her health drastically :)
Update us later! 🙂
Don't go and destroy your mum's health over this nonsense by switching her back to carbs.
I know it’s your MIL, so you have your motivations, but unless she’s extremely naive and stupid, she’s not going to go back to the horrible SAD diet. So, good luck getting her diabetes to come back, by actually listening to the quack in this video.
I agree with this 100%. I followed Dr. Barnard's approach after being told I was prediabetic and was able to reverse it. I decided to follow keto a few years later and became prediabetic again. I also had high cholesterol. Currently working on fixing both problems.
Good luck and full healing to you!
tamcon72 Thank you very much.
I just typed the same story as a reply to the comment above. Low BP my whole life, I went keto and it kept going up across the years on it. recent;y reverted to a Macro diet, and boom. BP dropping back to normal.
lolz
@@lanceevans1689vegan bot . Lol you guys just lie nonstop
Dr. What do you think about iron pan? I don't know if I am Iron deficient but I'mnplanning to buy one. What should I consider? PLEASE answer or make a video on it because I urgently need to buy a pan.
Dr. Greger, or anyone, do you have an example of 3 great meals for breakfast, lunch and dinner that would be perfect to follow to reverse diabietes and that fits the nutritional profile in the video at the 5:08 mark?
The fallacy in this video (series) is the assumption that a high carb diet is “normal “. What if the default human diet is high fat? In that case it would be non-sensical to expect “cured” T2 diabetics to ever quit the keto diet.
What? For most of hominim history we were not hunters nor effective scavengers of animal fats. This is why a high fat diet causes disease long-term but a high fiber, plant-based diet is disease-preventing and curative. Are you joking?
tamcon72 Do you have a source for your assertion about our history as a species? Cave paintings are a hoax by the meat industry, I guess, as are 200.000+ years old tools for cutting meat. Lol.
@@MikeEnRegalia Hominims didn't originate in the Paleolithic era--their anatomy and biology was already determined--and to base your ideas about our diet on this is "cherry picking," and that you must accept cherry picking by Neolithic era fanbois and gurls, likewise. Which means endless arguments about how civilization is beneficial and we are supposed to eat farmed grains, pulses, vegetables, and fruits, which I'm sure would not like.
No one is denying that stone and other tools in the fossil record indicates a practice of animal butchering. You people assert that this was common and regular and that animals were the common, regular, and _preferred_ food source for early Man, for which there is no evidence. As I have explained to another usernames issuing exactly the same talking points as you--are you all getting instructions from a central location? The Max Planck Institute? Shawn "I barely passed the medical boards" Baker?--there is abundant new evidence of the more comprehensive diet eaten even in early Paleolithic times. Because plant foods biodegrade more readily than animal skeletons, and require less processing to consume, the evidence for their consumption has been obscured until recently. We are not carnivores biologically and neither were our antecedents--we developed the ability to manufacture enzymes necessary to digest primary animal protein fairly late in our evolution--and we would have gone extinct long ago if eating a biologically inappropriate diet.
"Cave paintings, tho' " The reason Paleolithic cave dwellers painted those hunting scenes was as a totemic ritual action taken to achieve successful hunts, presumably because hunting was very difficult and frequently unsuccessful; they would not have had to do "affirmations" otherwise. It took a very long time for the large mammals encountered by humans to be driven to extinction, and humans weren't solely responsible. This is the consensus among actual paleontologists, anthropologists, and archeologists, though they demur that it is the best hypothesis until more is learned, as further discoveries arise.
I am not providing you with evidence of what the rest of us learned in college, and which anyone holding forth on this subject should already know.
tamcon72 our digestive system is adapted to a meat-based (omnivorous) diet. You’re welcome to write another couple of thousand words in response, containing a multitude of fallacies and factual errors. I am muting you, so good-bye and good luck.
@@MikeEnRegalia I know you didn't read what I wrote, or didn't comprehend it. I was super specific to prevent further dispute from someone lacking my knowledge base and too lazy/biased to rise to it. Mutual bye.
The Keto quacks will start making "The Methylglyoxal Myth" videos in 3-2-1...
@@LaurenBurger Right, so let's all maintain great, healthy insulin sensitivity by following a whole food, plant-based diet.
If methylglyoxal were such a problem, are you saying the Eskimos are on the brink of death using that logic? You also highlight a bunch of articles and use correlation instead of causation to push your points.
You just can't go back to carbs once you go keto
Look up all the 2012 + articles in the citation list you provided. The most recent articles provide evidence in favor of a ketogenic diet. In particular Hussain et al. (2012) shows better outcomes of the ketogenic diet for patients with type II diabetes than calorie restriction. Hallberg et al's (2018) study is the same. All the blood assays show very strong response to a ketogenic diet and improved outcomes. Both these studies have decent sample sizes +300 patients with good control populations on which to compare research outcomes,
The video rests much of its thesis on the results of Perry et al. 2017. That study shows that binging on a high fat food generates negative impacts on glucose sensitivity. The methods of this paper are limited - only 15 participants - all of whom are healthy and do not have type II diabetes. However, if the paper is read critically there is also a major flaw in how this video interprets the Perry et al study. Simply click on their Table 1 data to see the composition of the so called "high fat: diet fed to patients as the treatment. Indeed, it has a lot of fat (440 g worth and nearly 6000 cal). It also had an incredible amount of carbs - 192 g. That is 4 x the daily carb allowance of a low carb diet and 8 x the allowance of a keto genic diet. Obviously the outcome of the study could be just as readily (and mechanistically more likely) ascribed to the massive carb intake with the treatment as it could to the fat in the diet. So the thesis espoused in this video has problems.
Regarding the esteemed MD and star of the show, nobody should listen to what Greger has to say.
When he started using cars as an analogy instead of talking more about the science, I felt like there was something hugely missing, like he was just talking about his own hypotheis and not what data shows. Thanks for doing the research
@@AndyThomasStaff I found this comment hidden, somewhere here, as a reply to someone else and copied it here because I didn't want people not to come across it. But thanks!
I’m a newbie to Keto which frankly hasn’t worked for me yet as I lost weight that I didn’t need to lose but was never in ketosis. I have been intermittent fasting for a few months now. Recent bloodwork shows pre-diabetic, A1C borderline and high LDLs. I’m an avid runner and BMI is 18.5. So confused on what to do next…
Well, for starters, you’re in the right place. Dr. Greger’s videos are an excellent resource if you’re looking to find ways to eat healthier. In that regard, the most important rule to remember is to simply eat more unprocessed plant foods and less animal foods - meat, dairy and eggs. All plant-based “reversal diets” preach that one tenet - Pritikin, Ornish and Esselstyn. If you’re willing to give any of those 3 diets a try, that will help you to get your numbers back on track. All of them are quite restrictive, but that’s also why they work wonders if followed closely. Pritikin’s will at least allow you 1 serving of meat per day. If you’ve got the will to go full vegetarian or vegan - talking Ornish or Esselstyn - be sure to take some quality Vit. B12 and omega-3 fatty acid supplements. If you’re not sure you can handle any of those diets, all is not lost. Just start reading all you can about how to eat a Mediterranean diet. That will get you eating healthy in general without having to cut out a ton of animal protein. And, if you haven’t already, be sure to check out Dr. Greger’s website. There you can use the search function to look up tons of different foods and health conditions - like diabetes’ link to saturated fat intake. Best of luck!
Ignore the poster above, and instead read Dr. Phinney and Dr. Volek’s two books, one on The Science of Low Carb Living and the other Endurance (the Science of Low Carbohydrate for Performance), which shows their groundbreaking research on keto for regular life and endurance athletes (runners such as yourself) .
When u decide to add back carbs after doing keto for a while, there will be a spike in blood sugar.. its jus common sense.. jus like how blood sugar reduces quickly on keto, it may spike up too when sugar gets added.. thats why keto is a lifestyle change , not just a fad diet.. your body learns to regularise hormone insulin so that the next high carb meal gets sorted out as how nature intended it to be.. insulin resistance, high cortisol level, stress, sleep everything has to be in sync for keto or low carb to workout.. give it sometime.. a few hit jackpot in months , others years
Make a 3 days Diet video. So people can try. And spread the world that you are right.
After a year of Keto way of eating my primary care physician said on 9-9-19, "You have cured your Diabetes." Type 2 Diabetes. This is after doing full panel blood tests every 3 months.
You've cured your diabetes? Well then go have a big piece of chocolate cake on me!
@@allencrider I do have chocolate cake, without Sugar or Wheat flour. Coconut flour, almond flour, Stevia, and unsweetened cocoa powder. One can have treats without spiking insulin.
@@Auntyalias2014 Why would your insulin spike if your diabetes is cured? Have you taken a glucose tolerance test to scientifically prove that your diabetes is cured?
@@allencrider Insulin spikes when ever you eat anything. That's why Intermittent Fasting is a good thing when combating insulin resistance. Even when you think of eating something sweet insulin spikes. It's a matter of just how much of a spike you want to deal with. As for being "scientifically tested" I've had full blood panel work done every three months for the last year tracking being on Keto. The prior decade I was pre-diabetic and then diabetic before giving up all Sugar, Grain, seed oils, etc. I think before asking me what hoops I've jumped through I'd recommend you do some homework on Keto here on UA-cam.
@@Auntyalias2014 Combating insulin resistance is accomplished by consuming much less FAT and animal products and by exercising.
4:50 I get your point, but it's important to define what is a "normal diet", because the argument is said that said normal diet was what caused it in the first place.
But I'm with Greger on this, I've helped my grandfather with diabetes simply by reducing his fat intake, so I know it works.
You got to remember, standard American diet is not normal. It is something that has evolved from a normal diet over the course of decades.
@@heartdragon2386 However, I think that is what Dr. Greager means by a normal diet. It is the most common diet in America and by that standard it would make it "normal" for American's.
"... so I know it works." That's funny.
High fat isn't really keto. Keto done correctly like Dr.Berg recommends is eating 7-10cups of veggies and after being on cleam healthy balanced keto not too much protein either he says moderate amount from only grass fed animals you can cut down on fat. Ppl think it needs to be extremely high but it doesn't need to be
Normal = WFPBD
If your are a responsable doctor, thats what you should normalice.
What about a study on a whole food plant based keto diet?
You rock Doc.
Thanks to you, your team and the translators
Whole foods for the win
5:25 I found this part with a significant higher complexity. Please like if you would like Greger to go deeper into this topic for us 'debaters' to have a better informed stronger arguments.
Dr Greger, can you please distinguish between omnivore keto and whole food vegan keto. In your earlier writings you've suggested vegan keto might be beneficial or safe. Yet many whole food vegan options are high in saturated fat, beyond just coconut and palm. I'm under the impression, not just a low saturated fat vegan diet is more health promoting, but a low fat diet in general, with the exception of adequate omega 3 intake, in terms of optimal cholesterol, heart and vascular health. If you could please discuss in detail, the optimal choices for overall fat and saturated fat intake, for those already adhering to a diverse whole food vegan diet, this would be so helpful.
How could you be on a whole food vegan keto diet?
Which whole plant food has enough % of calories from fat for that?
@@happygimp0 nuts, avocado, etc
@@happygimp0 If I'm not mistaken, the original Ketogenic diet was 100% macadamia nuts. Brazil nuts and pine nuts are similar ratios... not that anyone should consume a significant quantity of Brazil nuts, as this could lead to selenium poisoning.
Thank you so much for making this video. People really need to know this! I get genuinely scared for people's health when they try to follow a keto diet because of all the studies that say that it is bad. Please people don't do it until you have done true research.
What about the studies that say its good? You can't flat out sit there and say a diet is good OR bad and assume it'll apply for everyone, and especially refer to studies when in reality, most people don't understand them and/or aren't going to pay to read the full study, and will just read the abstract. I'm not a keto freak, I've been following from afar for a few years now because ill get extremely bad stomach cramps when eating certain things and wanted to narrow it down (I wasn't paying attention to what I'd eat at all)... I just think its wrong to say its completely unhealthy and assume people will come to that conclusion just from "research". "Do your research" is what anti vaxxer nut jobs throw around thinking they know more than educated professionals and doctors.
@@orangeradishneo You are right that there are some studies that say that it is good in specific cases, or that it's not harmful for certain things. Such as a study that looked at endurance athletes and found that being on the keto diet did not actually impair their performance, however, the standard meat, cheese and butter keto diet is not healthy. Many studies are showing that saturated fat causes multiple health issues and that animal products cause health issues too. I have a whole video on heart disease and why eating meat, regardless of the fat content, maybe causing heart disease. If a person eats a diet high in animals foods keto or otherwise those health issues can and will occur.
@@orangeradishneo most of the studies I have seen where a ketogenic diet does appear to be beneficial are only referencing it's use in treating epilepsy, something that doesn't apply to the broader public.
I think keto is nearer to what humans have done forever up until 10 000 years ago different story now.
there are no studies. there poorly controlled associations, most of which are based on surveys. that's not "true research".
Indeed it does. I was Pre-diabetic and given 6 months before going on metformin when my GP suggested keto. 6 years and healthiest I have ever been. Finally, I realised being constantly drowsy DIDN'T HAVE TO BE THE NORM!!!
surprised any GP would recommend Keto lol. Usually they tell you - eat less fat and less sugar. but they forget, it's a receipt for a disaster, such diet will keep you constantly hungry and unhappy. fat food (avocados, not ptocessed s..t) keepsyou satiated foe longer, so you end up eating less calories
@@XAE_A_Xii less fat, less sugar, so whats remaining, protein? Oh protein bad too according to "studies".
I am type 1 diabetic and vegan. What do you recommend? PLEASE ANSWER!!
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The ketogenic diet worsening diabetes makes sense if it involves being on a high fat diet and reversing diabetes involves clearing fat or intramyocellular lipids out of the cells. Too much fat getting in the way of insulin working properly. Now let's examine why in this video.
Nice video! It feels like people want some of the benefits of fasting (ketosis), without actually having to fast, and thus the fast-mimicking "keto diet" fad was born. But if you really want to go into ketosis in a healthy way, then just practice fasting, which has only positive side-effects and none of the negative side-effects that the "keto diet" has.
Wow!
its the gathering of the experts here in the comments i see i am so impressed with all the researchers when will your studies be published?
Their confidence is off the roof.
This is like a Scientist's Forum
Better call my primary care and tell him to get my old 11 prescriptions ready because this guy in the internet says I'm healthier that way..... wanker
I don't understand what you are speaking about. I am on Keto for 2 years. i do not just believe my blood sugar level. My mind ability, asthma, body energy are all much better than before. i also eat some rice but not like others. But if the amount of the carb goes too much, my all condition goes bad. So I keep the amount of rice low and no wheat at all. Wheat makea my body muc worse. I lost 44 pounds and I am happy now.
I never thumbs up anything, nothing. You got my first thumbs up # 414
lol kevin, you count them?
@@maxconfucamus no I was the 414 like.
@@kevinisbell1867 oh ok, my bad
You say the bas part of keto but you do not purpose something prooven to cure insulin resistance.
So ?
There SHOULD have been one more video, answer the question "so, what does a diabetic do?"
Minimize/eliminate carbs....especially refined carbs.
Thank you for existing Dr.Greger 🌷
but how does the body break down or/and get rid of methylglyoxal? You forgot to mention it.
Is it the same with a whole food vegan keto? I hear the same things about "Eco Atkins".
Eco Atkins is too high carb to be ketogenic; it is analogous to the actual Atkins Diet, which is high protein and fat. The ongoing research on Eco Atkins is promising and gets good results.
What about Intermittent fasting + whole food plant based diet for weight loss?
Just depends on calorie intake and food choices. If you cut out calories by fasting while eating whole plants you may put yourself into too much of a deficit. Basically you’d lose a ton of weight but maybe too fast unless you’re ensuring adequate calories during feeding hours
Case closed!
Such a good video!!! It's so difficult to get people to understand that keto makes the underlying problem worse.
It literally doesnt. There are multiple studies that look directly at this issue. Greger doesn't use them, but chooses to show a completely different phenomenon. Its scientific sleight of hand, and his audience laps it up
So what is your easy explaination why it's bad? How can keto diet be bad if it restricts from such good as sugar, quick carbs?
So if keto is bad.. what is the healthiest alternative? What will help people eat until full/kill cravings and help binge eating disorder?
Whole foods High carb high fiber low fat
dj121 fat is essential.. ever heard of essential fatty acids?? Our cells need them, just like they need essential amino acids. Is there such thing as essential carbs?? Nope!
@@AdventureElliot Yes, carbs are essential! Not essential to stay alive, but essential to be healthy! There is also no essential saturated fat or animal fat. Leafy greens and fruits alone can give you all the essential fatty acids
@@AdventureElliot you don't need legs or arms to stay alive. Does that mean that it's good to not have any arms or legs?
dj121 ketones are necessary and preferred energy source evolutionarily speaking. We didn’t have an abundance of fruits and vegetables in the higher latitudes. We had animal products and our own bodyfat that we relied on from the growing season.
I love this channel!
One of the factors of insuline resistence is something called intramyo cellular lipid, which means fat inside the muscle cells.
The bodies preferred fuel for the muscles are carbs.
Insuline is used to "unlock" the muscle cells and let the carbs get stored in there (as glycogen).
A high fat diet makes fat get into the muscle cells, which prevents the insuline from working, sort of like gums in a lock.
When carbs can't enter the muscle cells, it stays in the blood, which results in high blood sugar, but the reason for it was not the carbs, but the excess fat.
Removing the fat, makes the insuline work properly and lessens the need for it.
MindVersusMisery that’s why you don’t mix fat with fructose. The extra channels that open up in the presence of fructose and insulin will draw in protein or fat as well. Those channels are generally resistant to fat when insulin isn’t being spiked.
I had prediabetes 6 years ago, I went to keto state accidentally because it turns out that I am allergic to fruits and plant based foods. 2 years ago I cheated and experimented by eating 14 big bananas in one meal and guess what? After 4 hour later I tested blood sugars and it was 90 which it tells me that my prediabetes was gone, but i regretted later because I knew that I'm allergic to fruits. Oh and my triglycerides used to be too way high and now they are in the normal level.
It is about insulin sensitivity. Fasting and low carb increase insulin sensitivity dramatically. These studies look at the very short-term effects of eating fat. They are almost useless. The game is about adaptation over several months. The body adapts to low carb healthy fat diets. You don't really see the full spectrum of benefits before a person's body has fully fat adapted. This video is a prime example of simplistic thinking and ignoring nuance.
Jesus Christ on a bike. That was a smackdown on keto
And an intellectually dishonest one at that
@@RiDankulous you'll probably find this guy to be biased as well
Tell me how bad and dangerous keto is when it stopped my hairfall, got me off my meds, got my period back and regulated all my hormones.
Sure it did. Eat a piece of cake and see what happens. Obviously you didn't watch the video. Science and all. You are a study of 1, nobody really cares.
Jon Griffin why would I eat a piece a cake? I have no desire to. I have zero sugar cravings. Also, this study/evidence is bullshit , obviously the carb response would differ when you’ve been fat adapted for so long. I’m suspecting this doctor is vegan or advocates plant based diets.
@@girlwhoseeks Yeah, this Dr. is definitely vegan, and him advocating plant based diets is an understatement. This "keto" video series (I put that in quotes because a lot of the studies he's showing here are actually based on atkins which is a huge difference, he's just packaging them up as "keto") is nothing more than a smear campaign
Brian Parsons I know right, I just went through his Instagram and it’s mostly posts about how meat, dairy etc. is bad for you. I don’t understand how people can talk about how dangerous keto is without even looking into it properly. People will blindly believe him because he claims himself as a “doctor”.
Why were you starving yourself before, good Lord!
Amazes me how each person in each camp firmly believes he/she is 110% right and other camp is completely crazy. Reality is there are successes in both camps. Most people can't debate meaningfully.
Both camps insist you lose weight and take you off highly processed foods, so both are better than the standard American diet, I think wfpb will turn out better long term results.
They are fanatic . And this hides the truth.
A ‘metaphor’ isn’t going to change the results of a ketogenic diet lowering blood sugar
Is someone here with t2d to be cured eating carbs?
Please, if there is even one answer .please
Got insulin?
Why would he care? He's pushing an agenda
Sorry, but I have been high fat low carb for 3 years, all my biomarkers are better. And never felt better in my 61 years of life. For me, and the 100 of thousands of others, it corrected blood sugar. For me, you’re wrong.
Congrats on making your life better. Yeah this series on "keto" (I put that in quotes because half of the studies he relies on in his smear campaign are not even keto, they are atkins) is nothing more than a smear campaign. If all markers are looking much better and continue to look good, I'd say carry on :).
Brian, thanks.
4:44 is the crux of the matter, yet there are people in the comments sticking their fingers in their ears and yelling that if you just stay on keto forever--in opposition to the research presented in this video--all will be fine, nya--nya-nya! They have the neurological permanence of a baby's level. TFP !
When you get pats of information and don't relate... I fixed my carbs intolerance not only whith the keto diet and fasting but also recovering the good bacteria on my gut! Yeah, now I can do all those thinks and also eat ice cream whitout any blood spike. Thank you ketogenic diet!
We have followed broken diet advice for generations, I believe we can afford to give keto a try before rejecting it outright. There are really too much factors at play to say anything so definitely and at a risk of being biased.
Your series on ketosis has been an absolute eye opener, amazing stuff.
If you’re actually taking anything in from this video, you’re sadly mistaken.
Thanks for putting the word out!
Keto kills...slowly.
I still think that a debate would be more interesting than this series. I have the feeling that dr greger and his staff are picking studies that most fit their view point rather than being open about the keto diet
Davide Callegari so sad isn’t? The idea that someone advocate plan based diet find all this flaws in keto is funny to me.
debate ? on what ? you mean evidences should be debated upon ? Aren't they enough on their own? We have mountains of evidence that saturated fat is bad. What needs to be debated here ?
Well, all lf these videos are ok, nothing bad about them, but it would be nice to see a defense of the keto diet, you know, just to see what the other side may say.
I personally find it funny that the atkins diet is even mentioned in these videos, for example, and often what is called low carb in these studies is actually high protein, not keto at all.
"I have the feeling . . . " This is your bias talking. There is a paucity of hard data on ketogenic diets long-term. There is no equivalent with all the data on other diets from which to make comparison.
I would also like some dialogue.
The keto guys will claim that everything is cherry picked anyways.
But without Dr Greger or someone qualified being able to respond directly many people will still not be sure what to believe.
I was told by my dr I needed to go on insulin as I had type 2 diabetes (6 years) I said no and started a low carb diet. Within a month by blood glucose was down to normal levels. After 3 months my HBA1C was below the diabetic threshold. I’m off my statins & off my blood pressure tablets (ramilpil) and lost 3 stones. I recommended a low carb high fat diet. My bloods have also improved HDL up ad Triglycerides down.
How about your gtt test?
Same here, it fix my type 2 diabetes.
@@bibilove6277 And did you pass your gtt test also?
@@krism6260 I am 7 months in from an A1C 13.1, with numbness on one foot. Pain in my chest when my sugar would spike to 400+ at certain times. I could tell the location of my kidneys most mornings because they hurt. I have been a diabetic for 15 years. I was a strict vegetarian for the last 3 years. It got my 14.7 A1C down to 13.1 with medication but my condition like every diabetic progressed. I was not on the eat more fat camp. I am from the era of that “Stop the insanity”. I believe everything that woman said and if there was fat in it, I did not want it. So keto and low carb high fat was not something I jumped in with open arms. But I was tired of being sick cause I started getting infections, UTI, tooth infections, yeast infections and all I got was a prescription of antibiotics. When I wanted to do keto the doctor was against it, he did not want to work with me with adjusting my insulin while on keto. He was willing to drop me. I took my health into my hand and stop my meds and went full keto. I measure my blood sugar before a meal, a half-hour later, and an hour after. Sometimes I would do it again 2 hours after. It took me three weeks to see a fasting blood sugar in 120 and another week to see it in the ’90s to 100. 3 months later I went from an A1C of 13.1 to 6.1 no meds. The nurse couldn't believe it. Three months after that my A1C is at 5.2. You don't know how sick you were until you are healthy. I lost 50lbs, I don't need a constant supply of coffee, to function. I sleep like a baby. No more pain in my chest, the numbness on foot is about 90 percent gone. My skin tags have disappeared at 55 my energy is that of when I was in my 20s. No more infections so far. I had UTIs that did not want to go away. To answer your question. No I did not the gtt, yet. But do you think that after living in misery that if I don't see the results I want, I'm simply going to say this doesn't work? The way I see it you can have a peanut, egg, mango allergy. My body is allergic to certain carbs.
@@krism6260 I have met diabetics that have been 5 and 7 years low carb or keto and they are healthy and loving life. Everyone has to do what worked for them. We have to learn to accept that what works for one person does not work for the other and that ok.
Great video to end out the keto series. Awesome work, Dr. Greger!
You mean atkins series right? That's what I fair amount of the studies he highlights in the videos are about. There's quite a difference between keto and atkins
Thanks, Michael, nice video, including metaphors, graphics, and pitch:)
Muchas Gracias por tan interesante información, saludos desde CDMX.
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Dr., if an alcoholic quit drinking for a week and then got drunk on half the amount he used to, I would not say that quitting made him worse.
I think the point is that if you can't manage a blood glucose test, the keto diet didn't cure your diabetes, just hid the symptoms of it.
Can you reverse the worsening of the condition by doing a vegan diet after long term keto? Will your glucose tolerance improve?
In terms of insulin sensitivity, yes. He actually presented a study showing the improvement in insulin sensitivity even without weightloss on a high carb high fiber diet (not necessarily vegan).
ggzh a Argue With Everyone Thank you :-)
PubMed link to the study: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/495550
Check out Dr Barnard's diabetic program or Mastering Diabetes, both on FB . I did MD (membership group) for a year and saw improvements over a self directed whole food plant based diet of 2 years prior.
It is never too late to reverse type 2 diabetes. Your gut will need a little more time than average to adjust to the new foods, so take it slow. It will need to change a lot of its micro-biome - for the good :-)
i wish i could stop my mom from trying this diet when shes already diabetic and kidney problems
How about this analogy, NO2 for racing? It makes the car go faster but it is bad for your engine.
I hope Dr. Berg watches this
He is a business man.
He knows people like to watch short videos and cuts many crucial informations on most of his videos. People take his words like God's word and don't question anything if is it ok to take the supplements or the life style change will be ok with their current condition.
@@butubuta hes not even a doctor
Can someone tell me what's considered low fat? How many % of your daily intake, and how many grams of fat per day?
10% or less of total calorie intake
lots of people are off their meds on keta going by their testimony on you tube..but I don't do keto. I don't need to
>>ots of people are off their meds on keta going by their testimony on you tube
But making their diabetes much worse. Watch the video.
Well, I followed the 'links to scientific resources' and it leads to the same list of videos by the channel owner. Tried to look at channel owner's credentials apart from the letters he puts behind his name and found no description of his training, medical specialty or science based training. This would seem like another hach channel pretending to be speaking for science. Touting evidence based philosophy while not providing evidence. The concepts behind this video are completely off base.
@@user-fy7ri8gu8l Thank you for providing the sources. I honestly looked on the link in video description and it just took me to a page that showed links to the other videos in the series.
I did look up all the 2012 + articles in the citation list you provided. The most recent articles provide evidence in favor of a ketogenic diet. In particular Hussain et al. (2012) shows better outcomes of the ketogenic diet for patients with type II diabetes than calorie restriction. Hallberg et al's (2018) study is the same. All the blood assays show very strong response to a ketogenic diet and improved outcomes. Both these studies have decent sample sizes +300 patients with good control populations on which to compare research outcomes,
The video rests much of its thesis on the results of Perry et al. 2017. That study shows that binging on a high fat food generates negative impacts on glucose sensitivity. The methods of this paper are limited - only 15 participants - all of whom are healthy and do not have type II diabetes. However, if the paper is read critically there is also a major flaw in how this video interprets the Perry et al study. Simply click on their Table 1 data to see the composition of the so called "high fat: diet fed to patients as the treatment. Indeed, it has a lot of fat (440 g worth and nearly 6000 cal). It also had an incredible amount of carbs - 192 g. That is 4 x the daily carb allowance of a low carb diet and 8 x the allowance of a keto genic diet. Obviously the outcome of the study could be just as readily (and mechanistically more likely) ascribed to the massive carb intake with the treatment as it could to the fat in the diet. So the thesis espoused in this video has problems.
Regarding the esteemed MD and star of the show. I did a search on Scopus to find some papers he might of have published. Indeed, his name came up blank on any research related to medicine or nutritional research apart from his online content. This isn't to say he cannot interpret peer review papers, but he is certainly not participating in the creation of science.
@@RiDankulous Joe I've had similar results on a low carb diet. Off the BP meds, lost weight, stronger athletic performance in endurance sports. I'm sure if we sat over a coffee and talked we'd find a lot of commonalities in our approaches to diet that might be lost in the keto vs vegan youtube wars. Among those commonalities: focus on whole foods, keep daily calories within a range that is right for you and your activity, keep a diversity of diet items, consider micro as well as macro nutrients, find a sustainable meal plan that you can stick to.
My reaction to the video was really to do with citing a paper that was a very poor representation of keto and its implications. The paper in question was a classic case of misrepresentation. The paper was in reference to the effect of a binge meal on glucose sensitivity. The authors used 'high fat' to describe their binge meal, but it was really high carb, high fat, high calorie meal that was provided. The paper was cited as evidence of why a high fat meal leads to glucose insensitivity. Everyone agrees that putting refined carbs with high fat is bad. The issue is conflating a high fat + refined carb meal with a low carb/high fat alternative endorsed by keto.
Correct. Greger uses studies on a temporary response to glucose, which is irrelevant.
The question is what happens to *insulin resistance* after a ketogenic diet?
A recentnt *US military clinical trial* found a *48% Improvment* in insulin resistance after a 3 month Ketogenic diet. That's massive, and in line with other studies
I wonder why Greger doesn't use these direct studies, but chooses to use oblique ways of 'proving' his thesis?
@@kgdblade apparently, the links have been removed. How nice of greger...
There’s a reason vegan diets work to reverse diabetes, but keto diets don’t. Symptoms may be lessened, but it worsens the condition
ADA recently endorsed low carb diets for treatment of diabetes actually.
Professional organizations often get it wrong.
Keto is effective in some epileptics and brain disorder.
@@aliciaali8299 Yes, but the long-term health problems caused by being on keto long-term should warn professional organizations from recommending it for anyone unless they were already suffering from something like frequent seizures--something that might make the health trade-offs worthwhile
@@karlwheatley1244 Average diabetic already loosing 10 years from high blood sugars, thats not good enough trade-off in your opinion to justify low carb diet?
@@magyararon6918 Thanks for your reply. "Average diabetic already loosing 10 years from high blood sugars, thats not good enough trade-off in your opinion to justify low carb diet?" Low-carb diets don't inherently reduce all-cause mortality, and you can cure diabetes on diets high in carbs too, so NO, that doesn't justify them.
The key is to eat mostly whole plants foods with lots of fiber, and that discourages overeating (and thus diabetes), and promotes the best overall long-term health outcomes.
If people DO go low-carb, they should eat mostly plant protein, mostly plant/unsaturated fats, and the few carbs they eat should be high-quality carbs--that combination lowers mortality compared to the average western diet. However, if people
go low carb and eat lots of saturated animal fat, animal protein, and low-quality carbs, that increases mortality over and above the already-dismal mortality rates for western diets.
Having studied the issue for more than a decade, low-carb gurus simply can't be trusted to tell you the whole truth.
Take care.
You have a video where you define the ketogenic diet you are speaking of ? You keep on mentioning Atkins, Atkins is similar but not the same. Responsible ketogenic diet educators always emphasize the importance of vegetables and moderate protein. Pls look up Dr Fung and Dr. Westerman’s work one is a nephrologist and one heads obesity clinic at duke university for past 20 years.