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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
- Canon EOS RP Hands On Overview | Join Photographer Dustin Abbott for a detailed, hands-on overview of the new Canon EOS RP full frame mirrorless camera along with some comparisons to the EOS R and a number of photos taken with the camera and the new RF 35mm F1.8 Macro IS lens. Visit the photo gallery: bit.ly/EOSRPgal...
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Thanks for taking the time to review the RP. I feel you're one of the few reviewers that will be impartial about it and not jump on a Canon hate train for those clicks/views. It's not a camera that currently has my attention, since I own a 6DII at this time, and do not feel the need to upgrade, but it's still interesting to hear about what is currently out. Maybe what it offers may or may not sway my decision, i can't say.
What I am very much looking forward to is your review of the RF 35mm f/1.8. You spoke highly of the EF 35mm f/2 IS, which is why i purchased it and love it, and would like to see how it measures up in comparison. While it does appear that Canon is going all out with the new RF mount by releasing and announcing all these new, fantastic RF L lenses, I believe the 35mm f/1.8 will be indicative to what they can truly offer the masses. While the current bodies may be underwhelming to some, especially in videographer circles, as a purely stills photographer, I'm quite excited with what they'll do next, as it seems Canon has developed a very strong foundation with this RF line.
Canon really needs to continue to release lenses like the RF35 - including some budget options. People that spend $1200 on an RP are probably not interested in buying a $3000 28-70 F2 to pair with it.
OK, a long one and I apologize in advance about that :) - I think a lot of people don't get this camera and the logic behind it. I, for example, have a Rebel series camera and 2 EF lenses for it. This RP allows me to go full frame for 1300 dollars (or lower during discounts, black friday, christmas season or whatever). I have 3 of those batteries too and I even know very well where all the buttons and controls are and what they do, hence no learning curve and no hassle. So, for a price I can stomach, I can get an EVF, better sensor, no crop factor for my lenses and better focus accuracy, especially since I shoot in single shot, 1 - point AF with the Rebel anyway. Now, do I know that, lets say Sony 7III is a significantly better camera? Yes, I do. But it's $2000 for the body alone, then I have to buy the 2 lenses, maybe an extra battery... I checked the prices, believe me. If I want a general zoom and a telephoto like the ones I have for the RP, there is no way I get that Sony operational under $3400 - $3500. (And the damn thing doesn't have a flip-out screen even, which I use every time I shoot with my old, little camera! Personal preference, but just saying)... Yes, if I start from scratch, with no camera, then the RP and 2 decent lenses would be like $2300 and I would be seriously thinking for the Sony, which is like $1200 more, but way more capable. For $2300 more expensive though - not so much. And I'm happy a "budget option" exist, otherwise I would be looking at the FF mirrorless cameras in UA-cam only. And if we are talking from Canon's perspective - since Rebels are maybe the most popular ICL cameras out there, I believe there is much bigger number guys like me, than guys starting to build a FF system from scratch. So Canon made a pretty good assessment with RP. Plus, I believe their plan is to give guys like me this camera and it's flaws, hook us in and try sell us the R or another from the upcoming models later. But regardless of companies scheming, the simple fact is, with the RP I can go mirrorless and FF for the grand total of $1000, If I wait a bit and shop around. No other option gives me that. Even the old models like Sony 7II, which are just $1000, but I still have 0 lenses and they have flaws on their own too.
I think that is a fair take. I actually think (personally) that the RP makes more sense than the EOS R at the moment. I like the layout, and I'm more willing to forgive the flaws at this price point.
I bought the RP because I have a lot of travel coming up and size/weight are a big deal to me. I was surprised to find that this camera performs way beyond what most internet reviewers are giving it credit for. Especially when paired with my lightweight lenses (Tamron 17-35mm f/2.8-4 and 70-210mm f/4, Canon 50mm f/1.8 STM), it is a much better travel camera than my old 5d mark iii and has produced great images in the majority of situations I've used it in so far. I've also done some studio and editorial/fashion work with the camera in the last few weeks and I have been Really Pleased with the results.
It's easy in these comparisons to lose sight of how competent all modern cameras are these days.
The RP is so much fun and a lot of the reviewers don't show that. The images I get out of this thing have a magic about them.
@@TheAmpCast Totally agree. So much fun to shoot with. And the control layout makes it so easy.
FYI Canon recently dropped the EOS-R to $1999 USD. Amazon still includes the free basic adapter with both bodies; B&H only with the R. The R looks like a much better overall value IMO. Canon should have started at this price.
I agree on the beginning price point, though I think that Canon was afraid of cannibalizing 5DIV sales.
@@DustinAbbottTWI rightly so. I'd have bought the R (even at $2299 USD) had it been available last March when I bought my 5DM4. Not regretting my purchase of a great camera, BUT.
Great overview. Love your reviews. Your reviews have helped me on deciding on my L Prime's. Your reviews are the best in the business.
That's my goal!
Thanks for making this overview, Dustin. I recently switch jobs into retail (selling cameras), so, while I knew all of the information you had covered, you word things so much more eloquently than I do. I'm not saying that you should be a salesperson, however, I find you to be a great resource not only for information but also presentation skills.
That's kind feedback. I don't view my job as "selling" a product so much as trying to present an objective (as much as possible) opinion on its merits.
Favorite practical review yet. Ordered an RP thanks to your review. Followed you on Flickr for years and decided to subscribe today.
Thanks for the follow, Eric. Enjoy your new camera!
Dustin, your review was practical and great. Getting mine for $999 with adapter included. For this high IQ, resolution of focus issues. working with third party lenses, how great is that! Originally I was going to go APSC mirrorless, but being able to shoot iso 3200 - 12800 with this FF will rock! And they just upgraded the eye focus! Thx again!
That's a fabulous price for this camera.
As always an excellent review. I bought an RP camera and returned it the next day for something that no reviewer is mentioning and I believe is really bad. When mounting any lens with the canon adapter, the AF motor on the lens works constantly and not only when the shutter is pressed. I truly believe that this will wear the motor on the lens way faster. I don't know if it happens the same with the R lenses, but many of us are buying the R cameras so we can use previous canon lenses which work fantastic with the adapter, except for the fact that the moment the camera is on, the AF works all the time.
Hi Luis, what you describe is actually just a setting to have Continuous Autofocus on. You can turn off that setting, and the lens will only focus when you are attempting to focus.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Thanks so much for your prompt response. I will go to the store and try that.
Spoke with the manager at my local photo store. He tried the RP with the Continuous Autofocus off and the the camera continued focusing constantly. The Canon Rep told him that that's how the R cameras are and it doesn't damage the lens. I think I'll stay away from the EOS R cameras.
I have the RP and absolutely love it........
There's a lot to commend.
As a still photographer, I get to disregard the videographers' concerns regarding the RP and R video specs, so a bit discombobulated that Canon seems to be targeting this 80D owner who has carefully cultivated nice glass (If I'm the targeted demographic, though thankful, I'm not sure that it's a winning strategy!). So, I'm wrestling between the RP and R. Ultimately, I think it is the sensor that will have me go with the R (Maybe this weekend with the price drop!), but that extra $1k will not flow easily from my hand.
Thanks for the great review!
I will tell you that if you shoot in situations where you want to be able to raise shadows cleanly, then buy the R. The RP falls apart a bit when raising shadows (as my sensor review next week will show).
@@DustinAbbottTWI Thanks for the advice and preview! That is my understanding and is consistent with the apparent 6DII vs. 5dIV sensor origins and Photons to Photons testing. I do a fair amount of photography in a cathedral setting (St. Mark's Episcopal Cathedral, Seattle) and raising shadow is a delicate dance. My 80D has performed admirably in candlelight, but I'm sure looking forward to the greater DR and low-light focusing (Though I will have to endure ragging from the Sony kids. I console myself with my lenses.).
Firstly, I can't tell you how desperately I was waiting for your review on the RP which as usual is spot on and completely different from most UA-cam reviews !!
In India, Currently the difference between the R and the RP with the 24 105 lens , is about $400 .. At this price point I surely feel going in for the R is better given the slightly better sensor , the slightly better low light auto focus abilities , the Sensor curtain (given the our dusty conditions in our country)
But when I think about my usage being only for stills, I start thinking again!!!!
I currently have the 70D with a bunch of EFS lenses and a couple of EF lenses .. if I sell the 70D with the lenses I should get some $600 richer ...
What's your take on this dilemma which most of us are facing
At $400 difference, the R is probably worth the extra money. It does give you some key advantages, and yes, the sensor curtain is a big deal in your country.
wherein India can I get eos R that cheap?
@@smitshakya2123 , the current price with the adaptor and lens is $2880 .. you can go to any canon image square or authorised canon dealers . Btw , I've made the switch 😍
Great review - thanks, Mr Abbot. (FWIW, I have recently purchased one with the RF 28-105 L lens and have been very happy with it so far.)
Good for you. Enjoy!
I really like that the multi function button is close to the focus button. It is so useful and easy to use. Easier than on dslr!
For sure.
Thank you so much for this review, I love it! I recently bought the Canon EOS RP and I pair it with DSLR lenses like 70-200mm f2.8 L and 100-400mm m2 images are outstanding beyond what I expected. I am pretty happy with its performance. Though RF lenses still expensive. I am excited to see how it works with upcoming RF 70-200mm lens.
Nice! I'm glad you are enjoying the camera.
I have the M50 & 80D, and I am leaning towards the RP, for a FF. I would keep the M50 as my Video backup, and shelve the 80D, or sell it. I Like that it has the EF adapter, also.
Sounds like a reasonable plan, though the 80D is the closest thing you have to a sports model at the moment. That may not be a big deal for you
I have no interest at all in this camera (5DIV and X-T3 masterrace!) but watched the whole thing because you are one of very few “true” reviewers with actual comprehensive testing. Thanks ❤️
That's both gratifying and sad.
At the time I bought C6Dm2 there was no sign of C RP. I do not regret it and I feel fine with my m2. Besides, RP is still ca.1000zl/ 250-280$ more expensive now in Poland. However, if I were to purchase a FF camera now,I would go with C RP.
Btw- thx for the review.
You're welcome.
Great unbiased review! I purchased the RP and later the new RF 24-105 mm is f4 L lens and what a great combo that is IMO! I tried using the adapter that came with the kit and the EF 24-105 is II mm f4 L and found it off balanced but worked great in all aspects but as stated seemed unbalance and front heavy on this body but works on the old 6D with battery grip. Canon needs to come out with a battery grip for the RP like they did for the R. Looking forward to the RF 35mm is f1.8 review and will probably pick that lens up also, I hear it is underrated and a sleeper of a lens.
I'm sure that a grip will come.
Thanks for the reply.@@DustinAbbottTWI
Always a great review Dustin : )
Thank you!
thanks Dustin - good review
You're welcome.
Thank you for the overview. Looking forward to your detailed review. For $700-1000 cheaper than the R one can get great glass. Just hope they firmware 24fps in 1080p. Also wish they let one add a battery grip.
I would be surprised if a battery grip option doesn't come by someone.
Thanks for the great overview !~
You're welcome.
Hi Dustin! Maybe you recorded this over a week ago, but now that the Eos R firmware 1.2.0 has been released, eye-af works in servo. It also seems to work at better distances. Unfortunately, still no intervalometer :/
I work pretty far in advance for my video releases now.
Another good camera that suffers from being launched in a time period where (almost) every other manufacturer has cameras that are absolutely great.
That's a very good summation. I think the RP is helped by having a very reasonable price, however.
Thank you Mr Abbott
Thank you so much for reviewing the RP - I always liked the detailed and unbiased opinion that you share in your videos. I've been meaning to buy the RP however; the recent launch of the EOS 90d had thrown me in a loop. I'm currently using an eos rebel along with EFs glass and wanted to pick your brain on which body upgrade will you advise. I'm a general purpose shooter dwelling in a little bit of everything. If you can do a comparison video and share your opinion apart from the DSLR/mirroless or crop-sensor/full-frame differences, it will really be a great help! Thank you once again.
If all your lenses are crop sensor, and you are comfortable with that, then go with the 90D.
@@DustinAbbottTWI yes, out of 3 lenses that I own, 2 are designed for crop sensor only (sigma 18-35 art and canon 55-250 STM). I was planning to continue using them via the adaptor but guess taking your advice and going for the 90d makes more sense. Thank you so much for taking the time to respond, much appreciated!
Dustin, I'm sure you must know this, but your comment on the difficulty of pinching the memory card on the Sony a6500 prompts me to say that if you just push down on the card, it pops partly out, making it easy to grab.
If you find it easy to grab the card in the scenario you describe, then your fingers are shaped differently than mine. BTW, I'm not sure it is even possible to pull out the memory card without releasing it by pushing in.
@@DustinAbbottTWI I wonder if it is a weak spring problem? In my Sony a6500, the card pops about half way out if the bottom of the camera is facing up. Bottom down, it ejects completely out of the camera and on to the floor.
@@KirkDurstonquest That may be your unique card, as I've had the same experience with multiple different Sony axxx series cameras. That being said, I've also used multiple SD cards in those cameras, with a similar result.
at last Canon they listen and priced their camera correctly.... i hope this is the start of their comeback.. i still have my trinity canon lenses :) .. they're on the right track now :)
It's very competitively priced...and that helps.
Dustin how do you like the RP compared to the X-t30 offering from Fuji?
Could you please to compare a variety of canon mount 70-200 lenses for wedding photography? Using the canon RP.
Probably not. I've done a 70-200 comparison in the past already, and the RP is not the native platform for any of them.
Hi! Great review. I'm looking for a mirroless body that might be more friendly than my 5D4 for using vintage glass. I was wondering how good (or not) are the focus assist for manual focusing? Xt-30 seems à good option, but a ff sensor is hard to let go.
The EOR R is actually better than the RP for this, as it has some better MF aids. I'll be reviewing the X-T30 this month, so stay tuned for that.
Since the RP is not selling as well as sony in japan, I hope canon will release firmware to fix the movie modes to push sales.
I don't think this is a firmware kind of fix. This is probably an issue with the camera architecture and heating.
As with the 5D4 and 6D2, I find Canon's body releases head scratchers. Meanwhile, their lenses continue to blow everything else away. Some of these RF lenses - wow. But the bodies, meh. I am hoping the 'high end' or high MP body supposedly on its way will pull me away from Sony....
I agree. The lenses are a homerun (though expensive), while the bodies definitely leave some doubts.
great camera if your not interested in video ans a half case gives it a good fit for me
I liked a lot of things about it, too.
90d or rp sir which one is better a choice?
That completely depends on what you want to do with the camera. The 90D is much more of an action camera and is APS-C, while the RP is the lower end full frame mirrorless option. There's not a lot in common between the two.
Canon Eos rp or 6d mark 2 ? which should i buy??
I would personally go for the RP. More robust focus system and mirrorless has a lot of advantages at this point.
EOS RP only make sense for people already owning Canon lenses. All the new RF lenses Canon plans cost much more than the camera (exept 35 1.8). Nikon have a much better plan for mirrorless FF.
That's debatable, but as for your first point: more people have Canon lenses than any other kind of lens, so that's hardly a negative.
@@DustinAbbottTWI I have no Canon lenses at all. Will you recomend me to buy a RP and old EF lenses and use an adapter for the rest of my life? No thank you.
is sony a6400 is better than eos rp?
That's a completely wide open question, so the answer is yes and no. The RP has far better ergonomics and arguably nicer color. The a6400 has a better sensor and much better tracking/burst rate.
Dustin, how do you find the EOS R with the adaptor and using a 70-200 F2.8L IS II and 24-70 F2.8L II?
In many ways they work even better due to having slightly faster and far more focus points always available.
@@DustinAbbottTWI would that be to the fact that the focal plane is now in the sensor? Am I saying it correctly?
You just made me more confused. I have the 6D and I am looking to upgrade. I shoot events and can't make up my mind. Use 6D and get RP as a second camera for event shooting. Or sell 6D and upgrade directly to the EOS R?
Keep the 6D dude! It out performs the 6DII in low light! Just buy the RP 👍
I have both and they are great!
I think Al's point isn't bad, and the ergonomics of the two are not so different that you end up confused.
I don't think I'll exchange my 6D mark II with a RP. It's a good camera, and the most attractive feature to me is the accuracy of the AF, the spread of the AF area (a major issue on the 6D2) and the higher low light sensitivity than the best that DSLRs can give, but on many other aspects I really prefer the 6D2: it has a higher frame rate very useful for action and wildlife (it's my primary camera), it has GPS for when I travel, and I can still get most of the benefits of mirrorless simply shooting in Live View, a thing that I tend to do more often lately mainly to overcome the composition limitations given by the center concentration of AF points in the viewfinder AF. I would totally exchange my 6D2 with an EOS R though, and I'm really thinking about it, but I am also concerne that a 100-400 + the EF-RF adapter may result in a very unbalanced setup
The improved autofocus is a serious advantage over the 6DII, no doubt.
I still with 6D can’t do without GPS .
Just a silly doubt, is the 6d mark ii who has the impproved autofocus?
How good is the 1080p compared to Sony a6500 1080p?
I didn't really directly compare that. Both can deliver detailed footage. The Sony has more options (SLOG, more framerates), and is probably the better video rig, though some would prefer Canon colors
@@DustinAbbottTWI Thanks for answering! I dont need SLOG, more framerates... but crisp and nice looking 1080p video would be nice! Could you provide some original RP footage somehow? Via Dropbox? It would be very helpful though!
According to Peter Greg, it’s “soft” as to be expected. 🙄
I have the same dress shirt
Nice
Canon had a weird rollout for their mirrorless line. The EOS R was in this awkward spot of costing more than its competitors while doing less, and made for unfavorable comparisons (unless you really love flip forward screens). Seems like they would have been better off rolling out with the RP from the start so that limited features would be more forgivable. Sure it does less, but it costs less! Now, instead of the focus being on how much cheaper the RP is to the A7iii or Z6 all the comparisons are between the features of the R and RP.
Would have been interesting to see what the reception would have been if the RP was the initial rollout with a beefier pro body being released some time in the fall for the lead-up to the Olympics.
I agree, but still I don't think that either Nikon or Canon are going to release a pro body capable for the Olympics. I mean, we're talking 1DX2/D5 territory here, and the only mirrorless as capable as these two is the A9, with all the downsides we saw of the electronic shutter. Also, there's not enough native glass for the Z/R mount, and I bet no one would ever want to work with a fiddly adapter between a 600mm and the body
Ya the Olympics was a bad example, more just the idea of releasing a budget option to start with a clear roadmap of releasing a higher end body in the fall, rather than a mid-rangish body then budget then....who knows
@@CKramburglar I think they'll release a 5D series EOS R within the next year, they need to because they're the only big company without a pro mirrorless option, but they worked on pro lenses in the meantime, so if they release a good pro camera, they could totally drive the market
How exactly is the RP more expensive than full frame competition?
Dustin Abbott it’s not, the R was. That’s why I think they should have released the RP first, so that having less features wouldn’t matter as much
Is the eos rebel t7i good for making UA-cam videos
Sure, though like most Canon cameras you probably need to stick to Full HD.
Set some proper lighting, arrange a neat background behind you, buy decent recorder or mic for good sound and you can make better looking video than maybe 8 out of 10 people on UA-cam, regardless of the camera. Otherwise the model you ask for has no Dual Pixel AF, I think. You want that.
If they put the R sensor in it and gave us 120fps in 1080p - I'd buy that in a flash and I'm a Nikon user. Canon must be the most frustrating camera company at the moment.
If they put the R sensor in it, they wouldn't have much to differentiate. I think a camera with more boxes checked is definitely coming, but I also think it will cost more.
@@DustinAbbottTWI I agree they can only play 'games' with the customer for so long. The dip in sales are showing that.
Think they have yet to produce a power efficient and powerful enough processor which can read the data fast enough from this sensor, let alone a more robust sensor. Think this camera is targeted more to those family oriented crowd who have Canon lenses, and just want to use AF points all across the frame and use for single point AF :s Hope they make a more competitive camera - just so to demonstrate they have the tech to get everything into one package.
I think GRobot's take is a good one. This is a solid camera aimed at those that want a full frame camera but don't have a major budget...and Canon still has the broadest support of lenses out there.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Currently I'm keeping my Canon glas in the hope that they will release a FFML camera that will actually also shoot video at (or very close to) FF read-out soon.
The R has some very nice features like that safety shutter for the sensor, and as someone who owns quite a bit of EF lenses the adapter with the drop-in filters sounds like a great thing to have.
But nowadays I use my camera 50/50 for photography and video, and I frequently switch between both, so that crop factor is killing both the R and RP for me.
Unfortunatley (for Canon) I have by now become used to (and a big fan of) the image quality on the Sony a7III, so Canon will have to create a camera that ticks all the relevant boxes for me to return to a Canon body.
They could of course start using Sony sensors and processors like some other camera producers, but I don't think they will do that.
What is up with all these reviewers pronouncing EOS as E ahss? When I hear it I can't get the visual of a mule vocalizing. Is it a Canon regional thing? Canon USA pronounces it E Oh S. I'm a Canon shooter and just was wondering.
Both are acceptable pronunciations. I've been doing Canon reviews for many years and worked with Canon on many projects...and I've never heard any complaint from a company insider over my pronunciation.
14:38 Damn the burst is that really loud?, Looks like a AK47 shooting...
That's what you get.