Canon EOS RP Review - Was I wrong about this camera?
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
- The Canon EOS RP has been a very interesting camera. Some aspects of the camera were a bit disappointing for video, but what about stills? Was I wrong about this camera? Who is this camera for? Should you buy it? Find out in this final Canon EOS RP Review.
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I considered switching from Canon to Sony (Alpha 7iii) based on all those negative reviews. Then I tested both the Sony as well as the Canon EOS R (because I thought I should at least get the R as the RP isn’t good enough) and also the RP. I got my RP yesterday and can only say, not only is it amazing (absolutely fine dynamic range and noise level, images are fabulous), I am also very glad that I did not pick up the Sony after having tested it (and a college also bought one). The feeling, usability, and everything are just so much better from my point of view on the canon and spending more on the R really wasn’t worth it considering the prize difference.
The RP offer sich a good package for a great prize and all that in a very small and light case. Of course there is no perfect camera out there. Most UA-cam testers are looking at cameras from a movie recording perspective, but most buyers don’t care for that feature. The Sony (which many UA-camrs consider to be the only thing to get ) is good for videos, and it’s a great camera from Sony but no camera is perfect.
If you visit forums or talk to people who actually use all those cameras or own them, you often get a complete different experience as to what you find on UA-cam or similar channels.
So now that I actually bought and tested the RP I am really glad with this purchase and can only say it’s so much better than what many UA-camrs said. And now many suddenly revert and are actually positive about it...
In the end I learned again to better test things myself and that some specs on paper don’t tell the whole story. Once you actually use a product it also comes down to many more aspects like how usable it is, and how many thoughts for even small things where put into it, that positively impact the day to day use of it. Those things are hard to test and can only be experienced by really using it and discovering all those details in certain situations.
Cameras these days are already on such a high level, what is considered „bad“ these days may have been the most „pro“ thing yesterday. Unless you are a real professional who often faces edge cases where you really need to squeeze out the absolute best of your equipment , you may never need or notice those differences in like eg dynamic range and others.
If you are interested in buying a new camera, regardless of brand. I recommend going out there into a store and test it or even rent it to check it out in a realistic environment. Having some small extra features, 10% more dynamic range, or extra pixels is worthless if the whole camera just doesn’t fit you and your work. Each camera has its advantages and disadvantages, find the one that fits your workflow and remember that there is not perfect System out there, everything has negative points too.
Yeah, it happened with 5D mark iv and 6D mark ii as well. They were supposed to be terrible based on reviews but yet, I thought they were great. Like you said, there's no camera on the market today that just inherently takes bad pictures.
But my complaints about the RP wasn't actually the image quality, but I felt like if you need an affordable full frame camera for photos, you could just get a used 5D mark i, ii, or a 6D mark i for less than half of the price of the RP. For paying $1300 you get a smaller mirrorless camera which can be beneficial to some people but I think in about a year or two, the price will go down, more affordable native lenses will be available, so it will be a much more complete package.
I tell people constantly, a camera is more than a spec-sheet. People seem to completely ignore UX design, interface, lens selection, body design ,ergonomics etc. All because of Dynamic Range, Autofocus points and other technical metrics.
A technically brilliant camera isnt worth anything if it's not enjoyable or encouraging to use.
I've used all 3 big FF MILC's now (Z6, EOS R and A7III) and between them I'd rate the Sony the best technically ,but the worst ergonomically. I'd rate the Nikon best in terms of ergonomics and controls. But I'd rate the EOS R the best when it comes to lens selection. Like you stated, I'd highly encourage everybody to rent all 3 if you are serious about buying one of them, and make up your own mind.
You are totally correct in saying that what we call "bad" today (Like the EOS RPs sensor performance on a technical level) is still amazing and takes great photos.
Amen🙏❤️
Agree, most you tubers judge a camera solely based on video capabilities, wtf?
@@HyunRalphJeong
I have been in that ballpark. Sure, I got great images out of the EOS 5D classic, in good light that is. Some fantastic colors.
By stating, "get a used 5D mk1" etc, you completely ignore the modern aspect of the RP or nowadays cameras for the target group
- EVF, the benefits are obvious, "see what you get" is revolutionary
- High ISO performance, with lens and all things equal you get more keepers in low light scenarios
- Dual pixel AF and Eye AF, for portraits, again revolutionary
- Ease of use, transfer and share the images taken in an instant, wifi, bluetooth to your phone, Snapseed them away to social media
- A screen you can rely on and actually use (the 5D mk1 screen is garbage, and you have to rely on the histogram)
- SD instead of old CF cards and CF readers
- Old camera price is around 200-500 USD, if shutter counts are ignored (only Canon service can read 5D Mk1) it could break in an instant and your hard earned, saved, cash is now gone
- Heavy body with spongy buttons
What type of EVF (millions of colors or hz), grade of high ISO performance or DR are past the diminishing of returns for most people and only matched upon user based workflow, then the incremental improvements are "worth it".
Mk1, 2 etc are truly great side cameras, as I see them.
This is the reason I sold my Mk1 and I'm now on the hunt for either a RP or the R.
“It may a bad camera for a lot of people but it might not be a bad camera for you” coin that!
sold my Fujifilm X-T3 for the EOS RP. I shoot stills. don't care much about video. maybe i'll catch my kid running for action. wanted the better low light and lenses from canon.
You’ll have a great time with the full frame sensor and canon lenses
Fuji is a joke. They did a great marketing campaign to promote its total APS-C crap yet finally, people have decent mirrorless choices.
Funny, I was about to choose the Fuji XT3 over this. How do they compare?
That's the same that i might do is it an upgrade?
@@silaschrist6752 same
I love that you tested for a while and gave an honest review on it. Certain cameras are meant for certain people, and different events. Love this. Thanks for sharing.
EVEEEEEEERY TIME Canon announces a camera it’s the same thing, all people say they are disappointed but when they try them finally it’s really good. It’s really funny .. and honestly people talk about video but how many will use 4K ? ... 1% . So 🤷🏻♂️
Nice video 👌🏻 and sorry for my english ^^
No your english seems perfect haha. Thank you for the comment
Hyun Ralph Jeong I try to improve myself and not to use the translator haha , you’re welcome :) I appreciate your Chanel +1 sub :)
I just got an RP. I came from a Rebel T5. I got it with a 24-105 rf because i wanted a really nice native lens. In the future I believe Canon will be making really good RF lenses so that is why I decided to stick with Canon and the RP vs a A7II.
Alex Salois The future is looking pretty good for Canon I must say. I thought they were done with cameras for a while haha
I have a T5i and looking to upgrade to RP with 24-105. Still liking it? What are your impressions after one month?
@@c200d45e95 it's great! The low light performance is a lot better and af is superior in every way. I just wish I had more money to by a 14mm Rokinon or 85mm RF. They battery life for me is pretty good. Hope you enjoy the RP as much as I do. Also the 24-105 is Soo sharp! Its definitely favorite lens right now.
RP is a great camera for its price. Though 24-105 RF (or EF) lens is not really impressive at all. 24-70 EF or 28-70 RF is great but very expensive, Buy used prime 50mm 1.4 EF (for $200) or 85mm EF and you will get the best image for tiny budget.
I bought an RP as well. It is great tho. I love it. It has great colors and I did some astrophotography and it looks amazing. I did some portraits. Looks amazing. Did some landscapes, looks amazing.
I don't give two craps about 4k video. And i can also record in 25fps and drop a frame so meh.
Also, I love the ergonomics and the large viewfinder. Also the screen is bright and looks good.
I am a happy RP owner.
Michael R. I currently have a Nikon d7500 thinking about getting rid of it and getting this camera,I really like what I see from it.
@@JermoOnTheSticks what was your last camera? how does the RP perform doing landscape and astro? thinking about upgrading to RP from my 6D
@@calvin4607 For landscape and Astro you can refer to Brent Hall's channel: he uses the RP (among other cameras) for timelapses.
Your right nobody gives a crap about 4k its bs to try and sell cameras.
I don't see any major downsides on the EOS RP since i used it with 85mm f1.4L IS it is perfect.
That's the great thing in being a tech reviewer..... We read the specs and automatically assume the product is not what I want. Not what I need.. But once we have it in hand.. It's a different story ..glad you decide to purchase the camera and give it a test
The Hungry Black Panda thanks! Yeah you never know until you try them yourself
I just got the RP. I love it :-) because it takes amazing pictures and I already have Canon lens and flash.
Hahaha I love your perspective. We are not going to fix world hunger, yes sir!
This is a review, and it’s your review. And we appreciate and respect your opinion.
Cameras are personal, I (Maria) prefer dslr and Lieles mirrorless
What we can say it’s that after hearing you comparing and reviewing the features of this camera, is that for us is not with it. And we thank you for being honest and upfront
Nice going, a voice of reason. (former 6D mk II owner, and now a RP owner)
Appreciate the comment!
Weird question but why didnt you upgrade to the R? And is the change considered a big upgrade for you?
I am an ex canon employee and I know that they have selective market strategy unless it's a low end digicam. You're absolutely right 👍
Divine Art haha good to know, appreciate the comment!
Divine Art If a company doesn’t have a marketing strategy they would make one camera at one price. They would concede the rest of the price points to other companies. Not a practical business plan.
I do think people have an opinion without using the camera. I have a 6D mark 2. Yes another hated camera. I was considering a Mirrorless, but just can’t justify the price hike! For an all round camera that does everything good, the 6D is just really good.
WHY?
Cost: it is now very competitive and a lot cheaper than the “R” which I have been looking at, Yes Sony make some good stuff but native lens are expensive, + lacks the selfie screen which is really good for vlogging, food and low high filming.
Weight: yes the mirrorless are light, but the 6D mark 2 is either very close or lighter when fitted with lenses. The “R” lens are heavy and even if you use the adapter, this pushes the camera over the weight of the 6D mark 2. The sony is only slightly lighter.
Colour grading:
For people who don’t want to colour grade, the jpeg colours are so natural and this makes editing quicker
Lens
EF lens are easy to come by and have some very good lens options at good prices.
4K
Doing 4K properly uses lots of data and processing, I think this is for top end professional photographers, bit rate I find is more important, but if uploading to social media they compress the footage anyway. So how good really does the camera video have to be? I find the 1080p footage downloaded from my editor at the highest bit rate, looks excellent.
The RP with the adapter? What is the weight? Is it much lighter than the 6D mark 2. So why go mirrorless, yes it offers a EVF view finder, which is handy and better lens (at a price) but for the hobbist/vlogger, who is not professional, I still see the 6D mark 2 as a very competitve camera
You're right on all points, but I have a mk1 so I'll skip the mk2 and go straight to the RP.
It never about the camera it's about the photograph and for what I need to do its perfect. I need full frame marriorless for portraits and this will fit my budget. Plus the lenses are awesome I need them in my life.
Marcus Gonzales Network. MGN yea you need 3000 dollar lenses on a crppled 1000 dollar body😂
Love your intro, honesty, and approach. I'm subscribing because camera reviewers like you don't exist anywhere else.
Thank you, I really appreciate it. Do you have an RP? I have an update video coming soon.
@@HyunRalphJeong I really want to get one. Affordable full frame, mirrorless (I don't think it's worth buying DSLRs anymore), and essentially native EF mount. I just want to make sure it really is worth getting. I'm an intermediate level photographer looking to get my first mirrorless and my first full frame, so I think it makes sense.
Just got an RP about 2 weeks ago (upgraded from a Canon M5) and I love it so far. I may miss the burst speed as my daughter does horseback riding but the focus system is better so my hit rate is better, low light is way better, although small it's balanced better with my 24-105f4 than the M5, and I have a pile of batteries as it uses the same one. The faster processor also means it sends images to my phone way faster and I love that it can send them in real time (although this does time out or go to sleep or something somewhat frequently). And got it on sale with the adapter for less than $1000 Canadian!
Thanks for the focusing tips for one handed shooting! As someone who is a recently new RP owner (who has only one really good hand) this was invaluable knowledge for me.
Coming from a Nikon D7000 I really am liking this camera. The things I miss most are the dual card slots and the ability to name my files.
Always love your vids.
“I always end up loving the Canon cameras I initially hate”
... I’m fully in agreement with you on this lol
Haha really appreciate the comment.
I love my RP with my L lenses. I had been waiting for a FF that fit my budget and could take my canon glass this fit the bill and I was so happy with the results. Watched the UA-cam Hate train for weeks before it came out and thought if they are just bitching about the 24p then it must be ok.
Johnny G Yeah it’s a fun little camera to use. I’ve been thinking about this a lot and I think I’d still much rather have a used 5D mark iii for the money (which also isn’t great for video for today’s standards) but the smaller size might appeal to a lot of people.
At 9:46 "Just understand that this is an entry level camera and you're not going to win any awards with it".... Really?? I think it's unfair to lead people into thinking they need an expensive pro level camera to win awards. An award goes to the actual photo, not the camera it was taken with. Pro cameras don't necessarily take better pictures; they are usually more robust and faster. They have shutters built for heavy duty use, bigger batteries, dual card slots, weather sealing, etc. But picture quality is not that different.
I am a Sony user. (I only shoot stills). I have an A73 and A6400. I love them both. However I end up going out mostly with the A6400, just because its lighter. It's all about weight when I'm walking with a camera all day. So I've recently added an EOS RP + 35/1.8 to my collection and I appreciate having full-frame in such a light package. My attitude towards cameras is not to obsess with what each one does and doesn't do, but instead to work out its plus points and decide if I need them for my working style. In the case of the RP, its strengths are it's weight (for a FF camera), simple menu system (compared to Sony), touch screen and colour science. It's capable of taking incredible images - that could definitely win awards.
I enjoyed your review. Thanks.
Great point
I am saving for this camera. My main reasons being the ergonomics, price, and the glass available for it. I don’t shoot video. I want a light full frame for street, family, portraits, and some landscape. Great video!
You're saving and talking about the glass? Very limited glass right now and it's all priced high except for the 35mm.
Can believe there's so much drama over a camera. Haha I think you're at least trying to post the right questions in terms of the target market and purpose. Very nice review.
Thank you! :)
I bought it on March as an enhancement of my 700D and 7D2 and my all Canon Eco System. All my EF and EF-S lenses are working. And with this price it was an good enhancement and entry into the full frame world. For me it was a very good DSLM I really like.
Meinte Holl Yes. Definitely! For me it is an combination of the best features of the 700D (my wife’s favorite) and the 7D2 (my favorite). The handling is very similar to the 700D and very easy to use. My wife also very comfortable with the RP other as with the 7D2. If you change from your 700D to full frame. I recommend the RP as your starting point especially with this price point. And After 3 month of using the RP I am always satisfied with it. www.irista.com/gallery/9gk1eln5ma6y a few pictures with the RP.
Really liking this series on the eos rp. Extremely comprehensive. Weird about the sunglasses going dark. Will you ever do a Sony or Nikon camera review? Great job as always.
Daniel&Naz I actually used to shoot Sony and Nikon but now I only shoot Canon haha. But I’ll always try to get my hands on any new cameras when I can!
You can absolutely win wards with that camera. It’s better than the cameras that were winning all the awards 10yrs ago. They are just tools people.
The RP is an outstanding camera and great value.
Good review Ralph. I agree woth you. This is really more photograhy. Its really not a bad camera it just depends on what you are goin to use it. That eye glasses going black was interesting lol. Im looking for a camera to use in photograpny that is not too expensive.😊👍
Just purchased this camera today, should be in next Monday; can’t wait to take it for a spin!
Have fun! You'll love it.
I shoot 5D, 5D2, 3 and 4. I bought the RP because I was going overseas and wanted a backup body to my 5DM4 that was light and could take my EF lenses. I didn't consider the R version but once I got to playing around with the RP I was sold...the fact that ANY point on the sensor can be a focus point would be why I'd switch to this line completely and give up all my 5Ds. I wish, wish, wish there was a programable back wheel that could be used in conjunction with the index finger wheel to allow me to move the focus point while the camera is to my eye (I shoot through the viewfinder). I can use my thumb on the back screen with the camera to my eye but my hands are quite small so I have to work a bit harder than I'd like to get it where I want it. It's a great little full frame camera and well worth a look.
Lea Murphy Yeah I’ve been reviewing and testing so many mirrorless cameras and now my 5D seems massive haha
Love and use the cameras that people hated. That's why it's worth watching to get different perspectives.
Perhaps the most sensible review of RP. My view is that for a principal still photographer it is “horses for the courses”.
Omg I didn't know there is a lot of stories behind!!
I agree with you. It is for different people.
I'm a canon user. I'm on a search for a new camera. Still looking for what to buy. Thank you for the review. I learned a lot.
Just J35 No problem :) what camera do you use now?
@@HyunRalphJeong I believe I use canon t3i
@Edgar G. I really don't know what I'm looking for as far as an upgrade. I know I want a camera that flips open. Good quality than what I have. I'm leaning towards canon, lumix or a sony camera. But im just trying save money.
I got the RP for three main reasons: 1) I wanted something smaller for travel photography but better than a smartphone, 2) I got the 7D when it came out and so the RP 'fits like a glove', 3) I have a kit bag full of EF lenses and these fit with the adaptor so I don't have to go out and rebuild my lens bag. I don't really want to use it for video so any video-related negatives are minor for me. So after actually using it for some months I am enjoying it and am thinking its a pretty good camera. You will need a couple of extra batteries and I would recommend going online to get all the setting setup correct.
For video I think it’s nothing special, but for someone who wants a good full frame mirrorless camera for photography its a great option.
Vincent Verdiny I agree.
You`re so right: it`s not a camera for everyone - but for someone. Like every other it has advantages and disadvantages. There is light and shadow. For me the question is: Does it help me to make good pitcures? Does it promote my creativity? Do I like the handling? Is it sympathic? My answer: Yes - because of the SIMPLICITY! Less can be more. I know, some cameras are "better" (like Sony A 7iii). But it is quality of life to make things easier. Thats why I like the RP. Not perfect - but simple.
FYI with Sony A73 the rear LCD is polarized the opposite way which I hated. So portrait was ok but standard landscape mode was not. If you put an LCD cover on it then it should work both ways which was the work around for my Sony but on the RP since the LCD can be twisted back in no need for a cover.
That is really interesting and funny haha thank you for the tip!
After looking into upgrading to FF I decided to stick with APS-C as in most situations you cannot really tell the difference. Also I am not sold on the advantages of mirrorless, one of the big drawbacks is that the sensors are much more prone to dust spots.
Martin Hommel I used to shoot sony and dust was never really an issue. And if we can get good results with dslrs then why switch right?
I failed at transitioning from DSLR (6D) to MILC (RP) the first time. I got annoyed that it didn’t work like a DSLR and sold it. I just bought another RP and have committed to actually learn the features seriously this time. I never found face detection and tracking very useful before but I just set up C1 with settings you suggested (face tracking/Servo/center focus point). I think it might work, especially when I do events. Being away from the RP for a year makes me appreciate it’s features - though I still love my DSLRs. For low light events, an RP/6D combo is going to work very well.
How do you find the RP in real world, low light events? I have a 6D mk1 and think it does really well at this kind of work. I am ised to mirrorless so i miss seeing my exposure in the viewfinder on the 6D. Not a big deal but it does make things more enjoyable.
Many thanks.
I ended up selling it and getting a second 6D. For events, having identical cameras that you can operate without thinking - in the dark - was more important. Plus, moving the focus point - or even finding where it wandered off to, was a pain. Face tracking chose the wrong face often. And the bigger issue is that faster L lens are very, very expensive. I got a 6D mark ii on Black Friday and that is a great camera - for me. I do occaisionally miss the RP - but not that much.
@@kevinl1492 Thankyou. I have ordered a cheap, used RP but i’m hanging onto the 6D. I am only a keen hobbyist so workflow isn’t essential like a working pro. I do love the 6D and it’s output but i find working with an EVF enjoyable. Thanks for the info! 👍
All above my level as my stills and videos will attest. Half a watch and a like though... great days to you Mr.Jeong
TheCanadianBubba And the dame to you sir!
A camera is just a tool at the day, and not all tools are suitable for all jobs. The RP is just fine as a still photography tool, and most people aren't concerned about 4k video and mega high pixel counts.
John Taylor Very true. I feel like pretty much any camera nowadays are more than fine for most
To all videographers. ITS A CAMERA! You do other things with it other than making videos. You know...TAKING PHOTOS!! So stop being stupid and degrading a camera just because it doesnt have some feature(s) you use for videos.
I plan to use it only for photos. So the viewo features, I dont really care about. Are the photos sharp? Is the AF pretty fast? Can I take a photo of a person or birds? If those are all yes, perfect. It does what I want.
Terence Brown AF is pretty fast. Not the best at tracking and burst is really slow but doesn’t mean you can’t get good shots with it.
Hey Hyun!! That's so cool that you spent a bunch of time digging more into this camera. We use a GoPro when we record our videos and just add extra light sources. We haven't really considered any other type of camera for what we do! If we have any questions though… We know who to ask! Played in full and so nice to meet you!
Thank you for this video. I'm gonna keep my 6D mark I and pickup the RP (later this year) instead of just getting the R. Main reason I'm afraid of breaking/losing a camera body that is ~$2000. Also gives me an extra $1000 for more glass which probably matters the most.
I find the m50+gimbal more than enough for video needs.
Yeah unless you REALLY need full frame, the m50 is probably good.
I totally agree with you! great video! I ordered my RP already, to put it aside my 5DmkIV, thanks!
Jaime Ortiz thank you!
Same plan i have.
Likely buying it. Shoot 5d4 but want a lighter travel/hiking setup. I’m hoping they also come out with RF f4 lenses too similar to Nikon’s which are 500grams.
Nathan Prachnau Surprisingly getting tons of comments from 5D mark iv owners haha. Yeah wish they had more smaller native lenses but won’t happen this year
I just got the RP myself. its an upgrade for me coming from the t7i. the only problem i have is, my Tamrom 70-200 2.8 does not work with it. it will only work in manual focus. The auto focus is not compatible. So look out for that if you are thinking about buying one of these and planning on using 3rd party lenses. not all of them will work.
That's very interesting. Thanks for the info!
Great review! You really did a great job with a nuanced approach to this camera. I’ve been recommending the camera to many people and I’m a Sony shooter. It’s a perfect camera for many people.
adventure_photo haha thank you. Appreciate the comment!
I took this camera as my secondary camera for shooting activities in my local park, I think it's not as bad as people seem to think for sports. Off course it's not by any means a fast camera, but, if you get a hang of it (you know, anticipating the movement instead of gatling gun the shit out of the action), you absolutely can use it for sports, to think about it, 15 years ago, this is a fast camera, if they can get excellent shots with a slower camera back then, well, it means you CAN too.
Aldo Susanto yeah, my favorite camera of all time is still the 5D mark i. We get spoiled by new technologies but once you get used to it, there’s really no such thing as a bad camera nowadays
Hahaha most hated camera owner of 2016-2018! Love the analytical details you give. Good realistic feedback as always Ralph!
hahaha
Great, unbiased review....really enjoying my RP. It's a fun, little camera. I upgraded from a 6D Mark I.
Craig Scarlett is it a big difference from 6d
Craig Scarlett thank you, it really did surprised me too.
Louis Luzuka there’s a big difference in focus accuracy. Unless it’s user error, the camera basically does not miss. This isn’t inherent to the RP, but more so mirrorless technology in general. Not having to micro adjust your lenses is huge. Weight difference and not having to chimp from shot to shot is also a major benefit. EF lenses are performing perfectly.
Craig Scarlett wow insane 🤠🔥
@@LouisLuzuka if you're a stills shooter already invested in Canon and you don't shoot sports or wildlife, the RP is a no-brainer. The battery is small, but I find I don't need to take as many shots to get the picture I want due to the EVF so 400-450 shots with more keepers is actually pretty good. I also picked up 2 extra batteries for $24.
So many reviews indicate you can't use this camera for wildlife. Why not? Is it the AF or slow continuous shooting? What am I missing here. A new firmware update has improved AF so that's a bonus. I am considering a purchase with the RF 24-105mm f/4 L IS, so lots of things to consider.
Technically, you can use any camera to do pretty much anything. The only downside I can think of is the slow framerate but that depends on what you're shooting.
@@HyunRalphJeong Thanks for the quick response. I just wanted to know why this was indicated and you confirmed my thoughts. I will make sure the wildlife are standing still. LOL
Purchased the Canon EOS PR and matched up with a Tamron 28-300mm F/3.5-6.3 Di VC PZD lens and now enjoy taking photos again. Image quality is excellent and, best of all, all of the features of the Canon RP work with the Tamron lens including all the video formats. The camera fully recognizes then lens and has built in correction factors that you can enable. I purchased the Canon RP before seeing this review and the review is spot on. I am not a professional photographer but like a higher end camera for vacations. This camera and lens combination gives me the flexibility I was looking for. Like any camera, it will take a bit to learn all it can do. I have read the entire manual so at least I know what the camera is capable. Only downside I have encountered is that the macro, portrait, and landscape presets are a submenu of the CSN dial making it had to quickly change from one mode to. the next. There are three programable positions on the top dial that I will read up on and try to program to be equal to the macro, portrait, and landscape features. So far I am impressed with the overall build quality and the weight. The full sensor is a must. First time I have been able to take a 70m photo of the dog, then zoom in on his eye utilizing Photos and see the reflection of the house in the eye. Very cool.
Great tips. How did I miss the Initial AP point - thanks for that. I bought the RP soon as it came out and also have the 6D2 and owned the 6D for 4 years. Love the RP for travel.
It will be a great travel camera. I initially thought it would be great to use with my EOS R but small differences in the menu are actually kind of confusing me.
I fine that HDR isn’t a problem if the shot is taken right. I found the RP to be great in low light!
I agree! I was surprised by how much better it was than my 6D mark ii.
thanks for a perfect unbiased review, I bought RP body switching from 6d, I am so happy with my first full frame mirrorless , my most important and reason to switch on a mirrorless camera with articulated LCD screen , I have both eyes with cataract surgery done but unfortunately some temporary blurry ness due to some medical issues, I find this continuously on LCD makes perfect for me while shooting interiors and fixed model shots in studio set up. LCD is giving plenty of information without straining my eye.And without breaking my bank .I am happy to use my old 6d 24-105/f4 kit lens ,70-300 f4 canon zoom without any issue with adapter . Since I am not doing sports at all other issues do not effect me. Last year I gifted my daughter with Canon M50 kit and I was really impressed with the quality in budget .My daughter does lot of Vblog etc and she cant move without it.
I’ve had the same issue of the screen going black on the rear view screen with polarized sunglasses. Other than that I’ve just moved up from optical viewfinders and I find it a lot better to use the one on the RP especially the fact that I’m able to use my thumb on the view screen to move the focus point around while looking through the viewfinder.
Nice follow up review, Hyun. Thanks for posting.
Melvin Johnson thank you for watching :)
Best approach to a review of this camera I’ve seen yet.
Noel Davis thank you and appreciate the comment!
I'm looking at the rp as a light travel camera to grab when I head out the door for more casual shooting even just for my instagram. Maybe grab a video clip here or there but mainly for photography. I just wish canon would release more consumer grade rf lenses and I'd love to see them release 1.8 primes for it.
Adam Yeah, unfortunately that’s the biggest weakness right now. Meanwhile you could use the EF 50 and 85 1.8s with an adapter?
@@HyunRalphJeong That's pretty much what I'm looking at. Altough I think I'll just get the 85 to go with the 35 rf and maybe the 24 2.8 to keep things light.
I bought it and returning it. If you want a grab and go camera, get the Fuji XT3. Amazing camera.
I just bought this as my first proper camera for shooting 24fps HD video with the drop-in ND filter EF lens mount and Tamron 24-70 mark i. First impressions are that it's great. I recognise it has limitations but since the price drop and the firmware update, it does what I think I need it to do. Time will tell!
For me, it's a nice bonus that it takes great stills. Will be able to take some family portraits on my next visit home. Nice little advantage.
Very thorough review! You are the king of the EOS RP reviews haha
Food and Footprints haha thanks
if you have 5D MK IV and EOS R. Then you do not need either 6D MKII or RP :). I got a RP too. Love it. Camera's for me is mainly for photography. Video is secondary. I do not think Canon made this for videographers. The target audience is probably are photographers who wants to take decent videos when they need it. Those people do not care about cinematic 24FPS footage or 120FPS or 4k dual pixel focusing. I also got an control ring EF adapter for this and just love how quickly I can change settings with the ring. At the end, I would not be surprised if Canon sell this more than EOS R. Unless you are picky videographer, this is plenty enough at almost half the price.
Nuwan Sam Yeah you’re exactly right. In my previous video I said I wish the EOS R and the RP were just one camera. EOS R’s sensor and video capabilities with RP’s body without the screen and touch bar at about $1699. But RP at its current state I think will appeal to a lot of Canon upgraders
I can't do pictures and videos simultaneously, even if I'm a wedding pro. Which means a waste of features.
The RP looks impressive if photos are the main thing. For vlog ? Well... people do vlog with their phones or GoPro already. For filmmakers ? I think true videographers will always opt a Cine anyways.
What I don't like about RP itself is the confusing setup restriction for videos even if the lens got nothing to do with it. Strange.
Rather than forced to pack something weird, I would prefer the RP is a total still-only camera but then make it even more CHEAPER.
Rizky Pratama Yeah if they took out 4k and other weird features it would have easily been a $999 camera but their marketing team HAD TO push for a useless 4k lol
@@kikipratama1 There are so many people falls between True Videographers and Vlogers. I am one of them. My main purpose is photography. Then this also comes handy to take videos, not for pro use of vlog which I do not do, but to record other things. And I can always manual focus on 4k if I need to. IMHO this camera would serve the need of a lot as an affordable light weight full-frame that has enough general purpose feature. For me, this is my backup for 5D MK IV. So my prediction is that this camera will sell more than EOS R. For a wedding photographer go for 5D MK IV or EOS R.
@@snuwan Wow, that's a bunch. How I did videos is with the help with the assist of other crews. I never shoot alone.
Of course, the RP is set to sell more. It is cheaper. Casual people hates heavy, and not everybody wants to buy used camera.
I am kinda new to photography buy I am considering going for an EOS R instead of the RP. I think you get a lot of features for difference in price. (I really want weather sealing, but also a better sensor, the better screen and EVF). And I think it's a better investment, going for the RF glass and this camera (EOS R). Even if I don't get that much into photography and plan to sell the gear later, I think it will keep a better value. I know that I could go for EF glass instead but it can be a gamble buying used.
Adrian-Alexandru Neculcea If you have the budget for it, the R is a better camera. I probably buy 80% of lenses used. I never had issues and when I do, ebay’s pretty good at getting me refunds. And then I can re-sell them for the same amount or more when I don’tneed them anymore :)
Hyun Ralph Jeong Considering where I live, ebay stuff are a big gamble for me, due to transport, especially glass. And budget wise, I would rather save up and don’t waste money on stupid things and invest in something that I have a passion for. And it’s worth the money. And maybe a future job. #investinyourself.
@@adrian-alexandruneculcea206 I see. It's always nice to have that personal connection with your gear too.
You are a very empathetic person. Great review. I bought the RP because I need full frame to get the most out of my wide angle lenses for real estate photography. I film in 1080 because it's easier... who cares about 4k. I do family and landscape photography as a hobby. Never do sports photography and have alot to learn before this camera is not good enough for me. Oh, and I have 3 Canon lenses already. I wanted one in march but I waited until August to purchase because of all the negativity. Very happy with my RP.
10:53 very impressive (that you sited all the specs in one take). I do love full frame but my current dslr body is getting really old and my A6000 isn't full frame. I only have 2 lenses for my Sony so it wouldn't be too much of a transition for me to switch. I will have to look into Sony A7ii - which seems to be going for around 1100.
Five Minute Sneaker TV haha that “one take” took several tries
Thanks for sharing Ralph. I think i might get this one as my first “professional” camera.
im a video guy and i will buy it. because it has better 1080p quality than sony mirrorless. Most of the videographer nowadays is still using 1080p because it is still decent quality and 4k workflow is pain in the ass if u dont have a powerful computer. Lastly Headphone Jack is a big plus for me.
Billy Fajardo nice, just curious, what camera do you use now?
@@HyunRalphJeong im using a7iii and a6300 now. im thinking to go back to canon. but im still waiting for a7siii :D
I believe this camera is aimed at Rebel series shooters who want to upgrade to full frame and mirrorless. I have a Rebel series Canon and this one would give me better low light performance, EVF, using the EF lenses as native, without crop factor and getting greater DoF. I already have 2 extra batteries for my APS-C camera, so with the one the camera comes with, I will have 3, which is plenty. In short - for me, the RP would mean better image quality, no learning curve (since all the menus and buttons are pretty much the same), and lowest possible price to move to FF and use the EF lenses I already have anyway. How is all that a bad deal at $1300?
You'll feel right at home with this camera. The fact that Canon decided to use the same small battery makes a lot of sense for people upgrading from Rebel series cameras.
I bought an RP because I'm coming from an EOS 30D from 2007, so anything is going to be much better than what I have now. However, after shooting with a friend's 6D I decided that I like full-frame a lot better, and I wanted a lighter camera to take with me more places. So, I spent a little extra and picked up the RP instead of an 80D for the full frame, and chose the RP over the 6D2 because of size. Being able to use my current EF lenses but also the upcoming RF lenses makes more sense to me as well.
Wow! Very refreshing review. Canon and Nikon made a bunch of critical errors with mirrorless and other manufacturers recognized this and literally crushed their reputation and removed them from their lofty perches making them play catch up. Yet when it comes to buying tools for photography, unfortunately the modern mindset of only the latest and greatest, well.. it gets in the way of sensible judgement. Thanks for being sensible. Cheers!
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it
Almost 2 years after this video, I have been enjoying for some time going out with my RP and one or a few prime lenses, for walking around photography. It complements the 90D in permitting the full use of the primes. And going out with the 2 bodies and 2 lenses, is like having 4 focal lengths. A 24mm and an 85mm make an interesting pairing.
Good vid, very informative, however, there is one thing you said that I completely disagree with, and that was saying you won't win any awards with this camera. Do you think winning awards in Photography is based ONLY on how expensive the camera you are using, is? Anyone can potentially win awards using any camera.
Oh, I like your realistic angle of reviewing !
I’m a Eos M6 shooter and looking to maybe get a RP, but every reviewer seems to focus on vlogging or just getting the most expensive of feature-packed gadgets...
RP is a beautiful camera. With good fast lens, the IQ is way beyond M-series
I have fun with my RP. It makes me happy when i use it...I feel like that's alllll that matters.
I want to get the RP because of the price point and features. Seen some stills from it and they look tack sharp. That's what I want. For $1300, Amazon has a whole kit including the grip extension. And its mirrorless. For $200-400 more, I can go with the 6d Mark ii. No reason to go that route for a bigger and heavier camera.
Terence Brown With good Canon lenses most images will be pretty sharp. It’s a decent camera for the price. I didn’t think I’d be saying this a few weeks ago but I like it better than the 6D mark ii
the parallel you made with sports shoes is perfect, very lucid. It helped me to decide upon this camera. Thanks a lot!
So this video crushed me. I can’t afford a nice camera but I’m def trying to use my RP to win awards and get my photos onto billboards, I was under the impression that this was the next best thing to the R6, and that I could get away with wildlife lenses for my wildlife and surfing photography :(
Something is off about the tags on this video. The side bar is populated with nothing but kids toy reviews, nursery rhymes and kids shows. Very odd...
Wow just noticed that, hat's really weird... Don't see anything weird in the tags
in 2022, still good. Came from 5D I, which I liked alot, and the RP is light years ahead of it.. I'm well aware of the downsides compared to the R or even R5, but being an amateur, price is a factor, the extra features/quality are simply not worth it for me.
Oh yeah, and the mini grip attachment is worth it.
I have this camera and its really amazing i like it very much .. i just bought it after watching your videos . You have great review videos about cameras. And yes everyone have their own choice . It maybe good for some people and not good for some . You're not wrong about this camera 📷
Omama khan Diaries Thanks Omama :)
I like your approach. You have another subscriber. I’m not a video shooter, I’m mainly interested in the stills performance.
Thank you and appreciate the comment sir! Are you planning on getting the RP?
How did you get so knowledgeable about cameras??
feed meimei Lots of credit card debt lol
great review straight to the points asked!
Terry Le Boeuf Thank you and appreciate the comment!
excellent presentation Hyun... my daughter moved up to the RP from the T1i as it was full frame, and she can use her EF Lens. It was a wise move, i think, because she'll be upgrading to RF Lens system, and it didn't make sense to spend a lot of money on a body (which will be obsolete by the time she's completed her lens compliment, and ready for a serious/professional body.
So, cost and upgrade plan was why she went that way.
HAHAHAHAHA IM GLAD I STAYED TO THE END, wow didn’t think u we’re going to get rid of them both 😂😂😂🤟🤟🤟
Louis Luzuka Haha I still like them, just don’t need them right now
@@HyunRalphJeong your review convince me to grap CanonRP cause I alread have Canon 6D + CanonM50. I just want to know if it is way better image quality of Rp than my old M 50.
Thanks
Thanks for making this video. I had no idea about the initial spot + servo trick and that really takes me back to DSLR framing, which is great. I really enjoyed that way of framing. Also, tracking is SO great! Thanks again for the video :).
Il stick to my canon M50 :) great review!:)
Ema Vane thank you :)
Awesome review ☺️ thanks for explaining everything.
We do have canon camera so we don’t need for now new ones but it’s always good to check what is in the market and find out more just in case if there is something better 😉
Thanks again Ralph
The Recipe Journal thank you :)
Ferrari is a bad car because of bad fuel economy! Just understand this is a 1300 entry level camera, and you shouldn’t expect to win any awards. Talk about being straight to the point!
Food Mystery Live haha can I get an A-men?!
Hyun Ralph Jeong AMEN Brother! AMEN!
I buy the Canon EOS RP because I have EF lenses, some of them Ls. If I have Nikon FX lenses, I would buy the Nikon Z6. If I have neither Canon nor Nikon lenses, I probably would buy the Sony A7III. Mirrorless is the way to go. I would not buy a DSLR anymore. (Thanks to the RP's aggressive pricing, Sony and Nikon prices are coming down.)
Chak Wong Yeah I agree, if I were starting from nothing, I’d probably go with Sony over the RP
@@HyunRalphJeong No Pros use Sony, Canon and Nikon are still (and will be) the only full frame cameras used by almost all fashion, sport and documentary photographers. Also, Sony A7III costs almost twice more than RP and it's a very different budget.
Alexander M On Ebay you can buy a brand new A7iii for $1700. If I had to choose between the two I’d definitely go with Sony but that’s just between those two cameras.
This sounds like an interesting camera. RF lenses are expensive. I'll wait till Canon drops the price by Xmas.
Yeah, that's probably the biggest weakness of the camera so far.
You don't need RF lenses for RP. Buy used EF prime lenses and you will get amazing images for a tiny budget.
canon rp or 6dmk2 or 90d? each has their place. thoughts? thank you for the effort and the sharing. thumbs up.
This is just not a good camera for the price and crippled features. Like you have just mentioned,, the Sony A72 is a much better choice and its cheaper. Since the 4k in the RP is cropped and useless, then it is only a full frame still camera. Also the Sony A6400 is better than this camera in most features and it is cheaper too again. If you are already a Canon crop shooter, and want to get into Canon's full frame, just get a used 6D original. They are selling at 500 to 800 dollars. And if you want to vlog, then get an other Canon SL2. And you still have money left over. All in all,, as a consumer,,, Price vs Features,,, you are just not getting your money's worth with this RP !
It is a pretty hard sell to a lot of people. But I'm guessing by next year, the price will go down like other cameras did. Sony and Nikon will also come out with $1300 full frame mirrorless cameras and only the consumers can win haha.
@@HyunRalphJeong I took a look at B&H prices for a RP with a lens. Its a wopping $ 2,199 bucks. The adapter bundle runs out and its an other 200 bucks extra.... And a Sony a7 iii with a kit lens is $ 2 198 bucks. Sony is one dollar cheaper and it is 100 times better camera than the RP. I am a Canon shooter myself,, i own a T1i, T5i and a 6D1, and there is nothing in the RP that i need. And also, these RP native lenses are crazy expensive.. They are super sharp a beautiful lens.. but way out of my price range even for a serious enthusiast. I think Canon dropped the ball with this one !
Good review, lots of good ideas expressed during it too. I am a Canon stills shooter, video doesn't really interest me that much so whilst I find the R and RP interesting and particularly like the EF adapter, a smart move by Canon for future sales pathways, I won't be buying either of these cameras. This is not because I think them bad cameras just that for now, my DSLR combo of a 7D MkII for action stuff and my 5DS for landscapes etc work very well for me and whilst it is fun to have new toys from time to time, a new camera regardless of brand, won't make me a better photographer it will just cost me money :)
7Dmkii and 5DS are 2 of my dream cameras that I never got to own haha. Thank you for your comment. I won't be replacing my 5DmkIV any time soon but I'm liking where Canon is going with their new products so far.
@@HyunRalphJeong To my mind the camera industry has a major problem in that with sales now a quarter of what they were at the peak, manufacturers in order to maximise sucess and recover their R&D and tooling costs for any new model are using a scatter gun approach of throwing in everything including the kitchen sink into the specification. Now whilst reviewers and brand fanboys may think this great I think it horrible because body only prices start North of 2,000 £, $ etc and you end up with a "feature fest" you don't need and probably won't even try. In this respect I agree with you, despite the fuss Canon is probably going in the right direction
Here in the UK, you can pick up a host of second hand gear of any brand from very reputable dealers, the kit comes with a warranty and you end up with great value for money. The remarkable thing is just how many very high spec cameras there are out there with very low shutter counts because well heeled consumers have bought pro kit when it first came out and hardly used it !
@@johnhaynes9910 Couldn't agree more. I almost never buy new gears anymore (unless it's for testing).
Thanks for the review. I am a current MFT owner and seriously thinking of moving up to FF. I am now considering Canon EOS RP and Sony a7iii but leaning towards Canon. My main concern is the lack of affordable native lenses on the RF mount. Now waiting for the upcoming 24-105 mm f4-7.1. However, I mainly use 25 mm lens on MFT (50 mm equivalent on FF) for 90% of my shots, so actually just thinking of RP+EF 50 mm/f1.8 (with adapter), and use 24-105/f4-7.1 as a back up and for videos.
Interesting!
What did you end up with?
I would keep the 6dmkii 😊 over the RP.
Clóvis Alves Overall, it’s a more complete camera.
Even in 2020 when Canon released the R5/R6 the RP might be a great option to enter the mirrorless Canon world (if you're not shooting sports or wildlife - then you'd probably choose the R6 instead).
You could begin with one specific RF lens and wait for new lenses to come out by third brands (e.g. Sigma, Tamron, etc)! When you're into the Canon ECO system and you like to go mirrorless it's also the cheapest way to go for it. Great review - thanks a lot! :D
Honestly 5fps is plenty if you know how to shoot.
@@DPoner If it were 5 fps. According to Tony Northrup there are only 2-4 fps with the RP! Not enough for sports or wildlife! :P
Could be a dumb question here: if I have some decent canon glass, care nothing for video, shoot headshots and portraits semi-professionally, and have been on them 5Dii for years... would this be an upgrade for me?
Jeffrey Hawkins Hi, unless you really need a mirrorless body and better low light performance, not really, but It’s nice having eye/face detection in close range.
Hyun Ralph Jeong Hmmm...Cool. Thanks, man.
I have a lot of m43 gear and a Fuji X-100V plus a like new 5DMkII. I like the canon colour better then Olympus, Panasonic and Fuji. I have a full bunch of old good lenses, the 24-105 F4 Kit lens, a 16-35 f2.8 and a lot of nikon AF-D lenses a set of Mamiya glasses plus an amazing canon FD 28mm f2.0 which I cannot adapt at all on the 5D. What I really miss is focus peaking so that I can manual focus with confidence like I do on my m43 but without the crop.
Last week I went in a camera store and I handled the R, the RP and the Z6 side by side and, surprisingly, despite me having quite large hands, I feel more comfortable with the RP, which has a deeper grip, because the body is actually slimmer. I don't even need the grip extension I think.
I'll get the RP as soon as the EF adapter will be available in the shop and they offered me, if I want, to buy the "wheel" adapter just adding 100€ and giving back the standard one in the box. I think in a week I'll get it and report back. I don't think I'll be let down by the image quality if it is even similar to my 5DMkII