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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
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Best dynamic rage test on UA-cam, great video
Thank you.
I’ve been under exposing my shots because that’s what I’ve learned on other cameras, and it’s been bothering me bringing out shadows on the RP. Knowing that I’d be better off overexposing slightly and using a higher ISO is a huge relief. Thank you!
You're welcome.
I appreciate the thorough testing. After upgrading to the RP and RF24-105 F4 L lens from a T4i and 18-135 kit lens I absolutely could not be happier. The advantages of a more professional (and more expensive) camera from any manufacturer would be lost on a person at my skill level. I just love to get out and enjoy my new gear. I think I must have been one of the "target" consumers.
That's exactly right. For the right person this is a great camera.
I always enjoy the ride... Skipping ahead is lame... 😎
You're my kind of viewer :)
@@DustinAbbottTWI 😁
Yeah, especially when you realize how much work it requires to produce all that! It's highly appreciated!
As much as I set this camera aside everytime I see it I kinda want one more n more
It has its charms, though for a specific audience.
Thorough and unbiased assessment...you are truly one of the best reviewers on UA-cam!
Thanks for the great feedback.
These sensor tests and the "Sensor War" series are so great - informative and intriguing.
Glad you enjoyed them.
Great review Dustin. Thank you!!
My pleasure.
I'm on my fourth Canon, currently using both the 5DS and 1DX. I honestly can say I have no interest at all in mirrorless cameras at this moment in time, with the possible exception of medium format. In respect to Canon, they just seem to be years behind the competition from Sony.
In some ways, yes, though in terms of the basic ergonomics and the quality of the RF lenses, they are leaders. What they need is a new spate of vastly improved sensors along with the kind of heat dissipation that will allow them to catch up on the 4K (and beyond) video front.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Canon make better video cameras than Sony. Just most folks are too cheap to buy a Canon _video_ camera and for some reason insist on a stills camera form factor.
Interesting analysis. I think I will be keeping an eye on the histogram, and using the "expose to the right" approach, as this sensor seems to lend itself more to that.
That's what I would do.
Thumb up and subscribed! That's by far the best sensor analysis on youtube. I have the RP from a couple of months and love it. The RF 24-105 lens is amazing, and i feel very comfortable with the handling and ergonomics of the camera. Indeed the dynamic range is not the same of competitors, however taking a picture is not pointing the camera in a random direction disregarding light orientation and distribution , then complain if you can't recover 4 stops with clean shadows ...
That's a pretty gross oversimplification of the purpose of dynamic range, but I agree that if you enjoy your camera and images it produces, then you don't need to worry about the tech specs from it.
@@DustinAbbottTWI of course there are photographers that NEED the best dynamic range ... but my feeling is than over 100 persons buying a nikon or sony and not a cheaper eos rp or 6d mkii, finally only 10 of them actually NEED the extra stops of dynamic range, while the other 90 just WANT that ... the pictures at the end of the video for my tastes are truly amazing and showing that this is a perfectly capable camera.
Why does every review centre on Dynamic Range ?
Would most photographers not try and get their exposure right before they press the shutter ? As far as high ISO goes some sensors are better than others and that’s just the simple facts of it. How many people actually need High ISO to warrant such review time on every single sensor being produced. While I watch a lot of reviews and great credit must go to the reviewers who spend so much time helping other people decide on a purchase the whole review industry should review itself, in my humble opinion.
Thanks for your time Dustin and your reviews are good and well presented and fair.
I'm pretty good at getting exposure right, but I can certainly tell when I'm working with a camera with good dynamic range and when I'm not, so I guess I'm personally one of those people. And with all due respect, Fintan, this is a free video on the internet. I never cease to wonder at those who complain over a free video that no one made them watch - one that is clearly labeled.
Dustin Abbott Sorry, I’m not complain if you think I am. I enjoy your videos otherwise I would not watch them. But I do think there is over emphasis on DR above other things.
I'd love to see from you a comparison between the EOS RP and the 6Dmk2, I got myself the 6d2 for about 1100 USD new 6 months ago, will it be an upgrade to jump to mirrorless with the EOS RP? or maybe I should just go with the EOS R?, love your videos btw!
The main reason to upgrade from a 6DII to an EOS RP is for the focus system, which is much more robust.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Thank u so much for answering! I agree with you, however, I fear to lose the 1080p at 24 fps, and the 6fps continuous shooting, I might as well just save some money and go straight to the EOS R, great review as always!
I absolutely love my RP, that being said the DR is nothing to write home about. In real life use it's perfectly usable in low light up to ISO4000 (in jpeg). However I love the color rendition and overall IQ, not to mention handling. Lovely little camera, especially for a smallish lady
It's definitely a fun little camera to use. If the next generation provides a more competitive sensor, it will be a real winner.
the banding problem when recovering exposure has been solved like on Eos R? Looking at Michael The Maven video you can find what I mean.
your reviews are excellent and very precise, much appreicated!
would you say the the DR issue and low iso noise with the 6dii sensor is not present on the RP?
im very split on my first full frame, been shooting Rebels for a decade and a 77D the last year.
im worried about having the same low iso and DR issue on the RP as the 6dii has since they "share" the same sensor.
thankyou again,
Evan
Expect the same shortcomings as the 6DII; it's basically the same sensor.
Another good review. The pictures look great.
Glad to help out.
pro review thank you
You're welcome.
Nice test, and kind of expected results, but disregarding the dynamic range differences I personally get the impression that the RP actually appears sharper and more clearly separates fine detail. That might well be a UA-cam thing, but it seems to me that the RP may have less internal noise reduction applied, and perhaps could take a bit more noise reduction in post. Again, that's just an impression from UA-cam, but it would be interesting to examine the raw files. Thanks for yet another great review
I don't see that, per se, but its true that it is capable of producing nicely detailed images.
I know this is an old video but I am considering buying in the near future either the 6d mk2 or the rp. In my opinion, at their price, I don't expect them to be performing as well as a 5d mk IV. I wouldn't expect either of them for example to outperform the 5d in terms of dynamic range, especially when pushed 2 stops beyond ISO 6400. I am upgrading from a canon 2000d (t6i i think) and it's important for me to be able to get higher burst rates, wider angles and cleaner shots especially at ISO 3200-6400 (the images from my current 2000d are horrendous at these ISO ranges). I am thus in search of a camera within a certain budget that still delivers in terms of quality and has the advantages of a full frame sensor. So for me, the limitations of these 2 cameras will probably never reveal themselves (let's say a situation where I have underexposed by 4 stops). So while I know that they are not as capable as a 5d mkiv, I know they'll outperform by a large margin my current entry level 2000d for a decent price and that alone should be enough to cover what I need.
Sounds reasonable to me.
Great review!!! I´m shooting with a 6D and want to move to mirrorless. I love photography as a hobby and I´m trying to decide if the $1000 difference between the R and the RP is the right way to go..... What do you think?
At the end of the day that's really a question for you to decide. I think you'll enjoy either camera.
Don't do this! I have a Canon EOS 6d and have Canon EOS RP but I can see the sensor on 6d is better! Eos RP have more nois.
Thinking of upgrading to RP from a T7i on Black Friday. Is it a good upgrade considering the differences in image quality and low-light performances ?
I didn't test the T7i, but I suspect there will be some give and take in performance. I do think you'll enjoy the RP as an overall package.
I was thinking about buying the RP until I saw your comprehensive review. I'm looking for a good low-light camera to replace my M50 but really can't afford to pay $2K or more for just a camera body. My search goes on.
Thanks for another excellent review.
The Sony a7III is a solid choice if you don't mind switching systems. It can be had in the $1800 range right now.
Yes, I know. I resist even thinking about Sony because of their terrible menu system with its pitiful touch activation and the lack of a fully-articulated screen. Sony has arguably the best low light performance of any mirrorless DSLR but having owned an a6000 I just can't seem to make the switch back to Sony. I absolutely love my M50 but the M-mount lenses, while decent, are lacking the sort of resolution I really want. I wish, I wish Canon would make some pro-level lenses for their M-mount cameras but I fear they never will.
Thanks for your reply, Dustin. I really enjoy your excellent reviews.
This is the camera for people who want EOS R6/5, but who only have 1000 bucks to spend. Getting into the RF mount system is one of the smartest decisions I've made as a photographer. I wouldn't do anything to change that, and I definitely would never switch to any other system. Maybe Sony, ... "Maybe"... But never Nikon, Fujifilm, Pentax, or any other system.
I did enjoy the RP despite its shortcomings.
Dustin, I have a Canon apsd 77D. I'm considering what to graduate to, to get better overall image quality, but without spending a lot of money. (I used to own a Canon 6D and found that FF camera gave me better resolution and better color tones than my crop sensor cameras, so am hoping for some of that sort of improvement). Do you think this RP would produce sufficiently better overall image quality than my 77D for things like travel, landscapes, portraits of friends and family and such? The price step up to the new R6 is a bit much, and i worry that it's 20 megapixel sensor doesn't allow for much cropping. I'd welcome any advice you can provide. Thanks, Craig
The RP would be an improvement, though I think you'd be happier still if you could find a deal on an EOS R. It's still a great camera as long as you don't need to shoot action.
Thanks for the great Sensor Test ! Hope you can compare it with the say the 1DX mark II sensors.
Hi Zack, I won't be doing further sensor comparisons with the RP. My time with it is wrapped up already (I work pretty far in advance).
@@DustinAbbottTWI Thanks! Was thinking how much difference the sensor would be at high ISO compared to the 1DX mark II. Thanks for the great sensor test !
Hi Dustin I wanna upgrade from an 80D to the rp . What are your thoughts
While it won't be a big image quality improvement, the RP is great fun to use and has an excellent focus system. There are a lot of advantages to mirrorless.
How is the shadow recovery on the Fuji Xt3 and Xt30 in comparison to the RP Dustin?
I'll have my hands on an X-T30 next week, but suffice it to say that the X-T3 does a better job at shadow recovery than the RP.
Great video! I bought RP (still waiting for it to arrive) but I am not sure why I feel like it wasn't good choice. I mean on paper is way better than my Canon 700 D, so I shouldnt be worry, but still.. I am looking for iso tests. My 700 d Is terrible and I can't wait to throw it. Usable iso I feel is just 400 and sometimes not even this :(
You will get better ISO performance, for sure.
My Proclaims with the 6D1 was always
1. shutter lag -like 263ns over 70D at like 76ns or the 5D3 a 125ns-ish
2 AF points for those Lounging outter 3rds around shots
3. the color metering that was a older style of reading than the 5D3 not
but going by price, Used 5D3 looks good but how is it in testing like this over the RP ?
I don't see any sensor advantages for the 5D3. Canon made a huge upgrade to the 5D4
@@DustinAbbottTWI My thoughts are
You can get one for $1,200 and under. 5D3 is not as low light as the 6D1 but the AF points are better for portraiture or offset subjects Most of all for moving subjects
shutter lag in sac.
6D1 0.29 so 0.30
6D2 0.167
5D3 0.12
5D4 0.165
80D 0.076
R 0.104
RP 0.218 wow.......
But people are now talking about Banding With Canon's dual pixel af . But you get that you don't need to work on micro lens AF settings
So for stills where would you say the 5D3 is with banding ?
Love the videos you put up, but. Looking for dynamic range when over exposed at 6400iso isn't the best idea. The dynamic range is pretty much non existent at that point be it shadows or highlights.
Perhaps, but that's not the case with some cameras. The recent Sony's, for example, are still pretty good.
are you aware of any videos telling how to clean the sensor of the RP? i can't find anything
I typically tilt the camera with the sensor facing down and use a bulb blower. It's pretty effective.
Great job Dustin! 👍
I have a question, Do you think that Sony A6500 is a better performer compared to EOS RP?
In dynamic range, there's no question. ISO performance is closer, but I still think the a6500 takes the win.
That's true, though FF does have the added value of some full frame specific traits (DOF, diffraction, smoother color gradation). But you are absolutely right in the sense that I'm not convinced this sensor competes even with the Sony or Fuji APS-C sensors in some metrics.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Hi, Dustin, I just feel that in high IOS performence, RP is definitely much better than A6500, right? Because when it comes to ISO6400, the image quality of a6500 is already tough. There are too many noise. But according to what you said, the eos rp can still hold up with IOS25600. That really takes the Advantage of the full frame sensor. Because one point which I'm so sick of apsc sensor, ist, even with lower ios like ios400, there are still punch of noise in the shadow of the image. Especially if you shoot indoors. I just suffer from that so much. But as always this is a great video, thank you for your information!!!
This is why we bracket landscapes. This camera seems stellar for pretty much all accounts.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Which really makes me wonder why choose for this camera.
Thanks, great review Dustin. In part due to this video and several others I returned my RP. Now back to my A7III vs. EOS R quandary. Blessings upon you and your house... are you familiar with Ken Duncan in Australia?
I don't think I am familiar with Ken.
Dustin Abbott His work is wonderful (especially his books). I think you’ll find both the impetus and Foundation behind his endeavors akin to both of ours (I was greatly encouraged reading your Bio).
So thoughts on EOS R vs A7III? (Landscape & Family with 6 kids 10 and under). Love Canons simplicity and “Cannon Connect” for Facebook. Leaning to the Sony.
Both cameras have strengths and weaknesses. The sensor in the A7III is a little better, and it is the more robust option for action. The EOS R has the advantage of the excellent Canon ecosystem, a better viewfinder and LCD screen, and a better grip/feel in the hand. Look at the system you want to buy into (lenses and other accessories) and go for it.
Dustin Abbott I almost wish someone would make the choice for me lol. Too many pros, cons, and shifting sands in the current landscape... I’ll have to flip a coin. :)
Thanks again, I’ve watched several of your productions now and subscribed.
The good news is that there isn't a bad choice here...just one that makes more sense for you.
Nice clear and thorough review as usual. I have an EOS R and will not be getting an RP due to the sensor not being up to competition. Eagerly awaiting Canon getting DR up to 14+ (15+) as Sony will be doing (as well as Panasonic in FF). RP seems to be a nice beginner camera but Canon future in mirrorless still up in air to me. I also have a Sony a7III body and will keep it until Canon shows where it is going with sensors. If the sensors keep coming like the RP in the future I may have to go Sony or Panasonic.
This is why I left Canon 3 years ago. Sensor tech is just too far behind. I love all the glass behind the Canon system. Now that they are switching mounts anyway, AND the glass is even more money than anything from Sony...well, there is just no point anymore. Not for people just getting into a system anyway. Canon knows it's losing market share and that's why they gone after industrial markets like vision systems and medical applications.
I agree that Canon has got to step up its game with the sensors. The 5D Mark IV sensor is the most competitive, but it still lags somewhat behind the competition.
Thanks for the excellent reviews on the RP. I'm considering upgrading from a Sony a6400 to the Canon RP, specifically for better indoor family pics (kids and animals playing, family pics as posed as you can get with young kids, etc) in less than ideal lighting at higher ISO than what I get with the a6400. I primarily shoot jpeg in A or P mode, so I don't think the considerations you shared with regard to over-exposing and DR apply to me. I've never really used video much on my cameras (typically take videos on the phone), and when I do, it's always in 1080p not 4K to preserve space. Given what I'm describing, do you think the RP would actually be an upgrade for me, so does it make more sense for me to stick with the a6400? Thanks.
I'm not sure it would be a optical upgrade, but I suspect you will enjoy the handling more. It feels great in the hand.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Thanks for the reply. Based on your testing and given the type of shooting I'm hoping to see improved results for (indoor, not so great lighting pics of family - kids at play, etc), do you think I'd be taking a step backwards with the RP from the a6400? Thanks!
You wouldn't have as much dynamic range, and I don't think ISO performance would be much better. As I said, the biggest advantage of the RP is that it is a nicer camera to use, but it isn't better in sensor performance. In some metrics it is definitely worse.
Hi Dustin is the sensor from xt30 better than the rp?
I think so, yes.
is dynamic range in real world same with 6dmark ii ?dxomark test look like the same!!
Yes. It is basically the same sensor.
Is this camera better at high iso than the a7r ii?
Slightly better.
@@DustinAbbottTWI wow! I thought the a7r ii would be better because of the more advanced sensor
Just wondering how long did you took to write the books shown on the picture?
I worked on them for over a year each
@@DustinAbbottTWI Thanks for sharing, alot of efforts has been gone into it. Are you planning working newer books?
I've got two others basically completed. I'm just so busy!!
On sensor performance, I remember you testing the Nikon d850 vs eos 5 m4 , in that comparison you felt the eos was holding it's own to the d850 . And even better . So I'm surprised that you think canon needs to up its game. This after all is a super cheap entry level fullframe camera . Like to hear your thoughts . Ps do come to the same conclusion for the eor R ?
I think you may be misinterpreting some of my findings. I found that the Canon provided better color science, but the D850 had both better dynamic range and slightly better high ISO performance. The RP sensor is quite a bit behind the 5DIV sensor in some key areas, however, so that places it at a disadvantaged compared to much of the competition.
@@DustinAbbottTWI yes sorry I was going of memory, I totally agree with the color science, I had the d810 , even that sensor beats my eos r by a mile in dynamic range but the skin tones of conan is exceptional. Although regarding dynamic range , with proper editing techniques I dont miss the 4 stop range
I honestly feel the RO looks as good or better!
RO?
@@DustinAbbottTWI RP!
I want to see a comparison with this and the X-T3. Guessing the X-T3 will win this.
I suspect that's true. You can look at the comparison with the EOS R and extrapolate.
I would prefer to see a comparison using DPP instead of Lightroom. I don't trust Lightroom colors.
Since I have a completely calibrated (on a monthly basis) workflow, I disagree. Lightroom is my personal workflow, and I do all of my reviews with the same workflow for consistency sake.
EOS RP is a mk3 in digital edition. Identical DR.
Not really. Different resolution, different sensor. The sensor is actually more Canon 6D Mark II.
@@DustinAbbottTWI I suppose he was meaning 6D Mark III, not the older 5D :)
If you cant equal or better Sony you have to do like everyone else does and use Sony sensors! sticking with old technology only drives away loyal Canon customers like me 15yrs. I was waiting for Canon to come up with a good update mirrorless wildlife camera so far neither the R or RP come close. So it's really narrowed down to the Sony A9 or the Nikon D850 as Like Canon did Nikon rushed out the Z6 and 7. I might have got the RP as an Astro mod cam but seeing how bad it is when you stretch the image it's a definite no go, it's also useless for wildlife. I'd get better results with an old second hand D750 even a D610 going cheap these days for astro modding at least it's less likely to have banding. Canon should stop crippling their cameras they are already well behind and not a company to either stick with or even starting.
They could definitely benefit from a few modern sensors.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Yes exactly. It's almost like two different companies the group making the lenses are amazing I thought the 85mm 1.2 was great news but there isn't a decent body to put it on.
So you say Canon sensor sucks and you talk about the Sony A9? you know that the A9 Dynamic range is slightly worse than the Canon R/5DIV/1DXii right?
Its funny how everybody just looks over the fact that not ALL sony cameras have great sensors.
And stop all this "canon is behind bla" bullshit. canon does alot of things that others just dont do(at least that well) too.
Speaking of ergonomics, Amazing touchscreens/usability, new lense designes, Incredible Wifi app. How long are we waiting for sony to put in a simple full function rotating touchscreen in their mirrorless cams now? in these areas sony is almost a decade behind!
@@MikedieONE Hi there If I wanted dynamic range especially for landscape I wouldn't get the A9 or the Canon I would get the Sony A7R3 or the D850 which get 100 in DXOmark the A9 Is the best you can get for fast action. I do nature photography.. Have a read of this copy paste...The A9 features technology that hasn't come to any other mirrorless camera as of now. It uses a stacked Exmor RS sensor with an integral memory and high speed circuitry behind the pixel area. This structure allows the camera to process data faster than any other Sony camera (ten times faster than the A7 III) go check it out at the moment they've reduced the prices considerably.
I hate having to choose between sensor performance and ergonomics. Come on Canon, look at the elephant in the room.
That's very true. It was the best of times, and the worst of times.
Skillshare and Squarespace are ruining videos like this, I don't care what they pay, I don't want to see adverts at the beginning of a video, I just move on to the next
Uncaged and idiots like you ruin comments section with your bitching and crying
Uncaged lol it supports the youtubers. We wouldn’t get content without this so it’s a small price to pay
I’m going to watch this video. Surely wouldn’t pass it up just because an advert. I just wish I hadn’t read this comment and got stuck here instead. I should have just ignored it. Respect your opinion though and no need to call each other for idiots. That’s even more pointless. Bye.
@@orjanjhmagnusson People like you that imagine that people like me give a flying fuck what you have to say on the matter are hilarious. Go watch it then you dope, why are you wasting your time replying to something fuck all to do with you? Are you the type of shit head that butts in when someone is complaining about the prices in a store? I'd say you're great fun at parties
Very in-depth review, dry delivery. Background music please.
Oh dear god, please do not put background music in, go watch Jared polin if you want cancer lens reviews
Love the info/reviews but this video is too long.
Thanks for the feedback. What information would you cut?