If anyone still finds this video, here’s the 2021 update... Canon gave us 24fps in 1080 shortly after I made this video. Completely negated and solved the whole “video problems” portion of this video. CR3 files now preview on my Mac. I bought the extension grip for the RP and it became the most comfortable camera I’ve ever held. I sold all my EF lenses and ended up getting the RF 24-70, 50 1.8, and 70-200 (couldn’t be happier). I bought an EOS R to replace my 5Diii and found that other than adding C Log and 4K DPAF the R was hardly worth the upgrade over an RP, as I only sometimes need those things (I have a video on the comparison). I sold the RP because a friend offered me his EOS R for very very cheap, and having two identical cameras is just great. Ultimately I started to notice frustration with both the R and RP tracking while backlit or with a dark exposure (even in adequate lighting, if the exposure was dark, say to retain your highlights, the cameras sucked) and I also noticed I was regularly frustrated with menu dives to change things like focus modes or white balance, there weren’t enough programmable shortcuts with either camera to make them quickly adaptable to frequently changing scenes. I sold one of the R’s two months ago for an R6 which solved every problem I had with both the RP and R. I still think the RP is the most amazing value for general content creators who might focus on portraiture and simple videos (hairdressers on IG!) especially if you need to make a LOT of content frequently. The big value in the RP over (say) an M50 is that the price spread from APS-C to this full frame is smaller than the price spread between an F1.8 and F1.2 lens, and is about the same price as adding a speed booster to the M50, so if that “full frame look” is a goal you REALLY can’t beat the RP’s value. If you want to focus more heavily on video and plan to grade/etc the footage then the EOS R is worth the upgrade. If you’re shooting action or anything in a quickly changing environment and you want a camera that adapts quickly without looking at menus ever, look into the R6. And if you’re not sure if you need the R5 then you don’t need the R5.
@@alexhagen5105 different kind of tools altogether, almost apples and oranges. Both the RP and the R user interface and controls felt wayyyy lacking compared to my 5Diii, they are cumbersome and slow by comparison- as far as photography goes the experience with the RP/P felt a lot like using a Rebel or an M50. However, the video capabilities with both the RP and R made things which were impossible with the 5Diii possible- due to the flippy screen and focus tracking in video. If all I did was photo I could have happily stayed with the 5Diii forever, but because I began dabbling with making UA-cam videos I felt like I was almost forced into the RF system. Now that I’m using an R6 I have zero complaints (almost zero, the R6 jumps to auto iso by accident sometimes and I hate it). So yeah, long story short, if I’m 100% photo I’d personally take a 5D over the R/RP but if I’m also doing casual video I’d go with the RP and if I’m trying to do a little bit more serious video I’d go with the R.
Thank you for that detailed response! I think the main reason for me wanting to switch is the eye autofocus these mirrorless cameras have. I have a 10 month old son who is constantly moving and I feel like the eye autofocus feature will be extremely handy. And also the weight! I feel like the lighter weight would be beneficial. From my understanding both the canon eos RP and R have similar image quality. Would you say that’s correct too? Again thanks!
@@alexhagen5105 when I was using the R and RP I was constantly cussing at my camera because the eye auto focus wasn’t very reliable while trying to shoot my toddler. On both of those cameras I found that eye AF is a great convenience for still subjects and it worked fine in sort of curated scenarios where the lighting was decent and the model was willing, but when put into real scenarios with less than perfect lighting and a squirrelly model I was constantly disappointed or frustrated. I would regularly yell toward my toddler in order to get her to look up at me so that the camera would recognize a face, otherwise it was focusing on a shoulder or a nearby flower. When I borrowed an R5 my wife commented that I wasn’t cussing at my camera, and I ended up ordering an R6 that same night. The tracking with the R5 and R6 is miles ahead of the RP/R. That was half of the reason I moved on to R6 (ergonomics and customization was the other half). But the R5/R6 know to grab the side or back of a head while the RP/R kind of need to see both eyes and a mouth before it recognizes that there’s a face in the frame. I mean there are workarounds with RP/R like setting an initial point for tracking then repeatedly going back to that point when it starts tracking something you don’t want, or you can drag across the screen to target a new subject, but the former ends up being as much work as just using a single point on your 5D and the latter requires a few precious seconds for the camera to lock on to the new target. To answer your other question, the image quality between R and RP is negligible in most cases but is massive when the cameras are pushed to limits. After light edits on well lit scenes you wouldn’t tell which camera was used, but heavily pulling up shadows at 6400 ISO will put the EOS R noticeably ahead of the RP.
I have the RP with the extension grip and it is killer. I’m a raw shooter and a processing junkie, and the raws in C1Pro are amazing. I also noticed the grain/noise aspect that you pointed out in your video. It’s very tight and does look a lot like fine grain film grain. BTW, this camera is an absolute beast with the latest firmware. The touch-focus is insanely fast and dead accurate in any lighting condition. The focus square movement is immediate and has zero lag. Beats the the hell out of screwing around with a joy stick. You can do great things with the RP. I love mine.
I'm an enthusiast landscape photographer with a young child so I also dabble in portraits and slower actions shots of her obviously. I am moving to Full Frame after my D5600 Aps-c recently broke. Having to buy body & lens I am even more limited at this time within my already limited budget. I am extremely intrigued by the EOS RP but worried about the noise & shadow recovery even at base ISO. I am torn between EOS RP and maybe an older a7R ii that comes to nearly the exact same price. Love to hear your thoughts.
My wife has the A7III, so I can relate to the differences. Right out of the gate, the A7III has better DR at base ISO, no denying that. As the ISO increases, the DR differences become less and less. At 1600 and above, they are very close. Handling wise, the RP is far superior, especially with the extension grip. It feels better in the hands and isn't as cramped. The RP menu system, IMO, is also much better.Customization with the RP is extremely versatile, given the button layout and menu options. One of the main reasons I bought the RP was so I could use the excellent RF24-105. IMO, it has no peer in its range and is optically superior to the Sony version in every way. IBIS was never a consideration, since the RF24-105 has 5 stops of IS built-in. Plus, the lens has a programmable control ring, which I use for exposure compensation. Low light AF is better with the RP, also. It's very accurate and quick to focus, even in extreme conditions. Image quality wise, both cameras are very close. In Capture One, I prefer the RP color rendering over the A7III.You may want to check out the Scott Drexler UA-cam video. He uses the RP professionally as a wedding photographer.
@@ChicagoRob2 Thank you for the reply! Saw the video on him using the RP during weddings :) been scouring all the RP videos of coarse. The RF lens' are definitely quite something! I would start off with the 24-240 for general purpose and hiking. Then add a wide like a 15mm prime or classic 16-35. I would do this with either system. On the canon due to cost I would start with only the one RF and then get a used EF L series until able to afford more RF glass. I have held both the Sony & the RP and didn't mind either though yes the RP is a bit more ergonomic. I like the idea of focus stacking made easy by the touch screen on RP but again hesitant on that shadow recovery especially during sunsets/rises which I shoot a ton of! Though i'm sure either of these will be way ahead of my old D5600 in that regard.
@@nikrowe4261 Hey I'm wondering if you have bought the RP and could help me out as I've got pretty much the same question/issue as you: I'm thinking of upgrading my old 600d and the RP seems to be a good option. But as I only photograph landscapes I wonder if the shadow recovery thing will be a major issue and if I should be rather getting a 90d (or Sony 7II or something else).
@@carlo.b I ended up going with the a7ii and love it, but it isn't the a7r iii that made me fall in love with Sony in the first place. From the test RAW files of the RP I got my hands on I didn't like the shadow lifting ability in post (DR). I would say Robert's reply to my initial comment is spot on as well. I held a friends canon for the first time over this past weekend and was immediately in love with its feel. So much so that being I only have the old a7ii body & 1 tamron travel zoom I may look at Cannon for my next big purchase.
What a conversation! I like your frank and personal take on the photography gear. I am still considering this camera in 2022. Doesn’t break the bank, doesn’t break my investment in EF lenses, and gives me excellent stills and the latter is most important to me. Thanks for the review Andrew.
Nice, down-to-earth commentary on an incredibly versatile, nice camera that got so much unfair reviews! I have it since a couple of weeks and keeps amazing me. I am using less and less my 5D MKIV.
This is one of the best reviews of the EOS RP that I've ever seen. I feel your joy as well as your pain; especially the CR3 files LOL. Your ideas on what could be done with the control ring are absolutely brilliant, I hope Canon are watching… this has got me excited for the potential future. I've been shooting DSLR 5Dmk2, 6Dmk2 and added the EOS M50 a year ago, and loving it to bits. I tried my best to stay with EF lenses because like you, I didn't want two different lens systems bouncing about, but I've just got my first M lens, the M22 2.0 for the sheer size, which is what you want for street photography. It's amazing! The small M50 is now absolutely tiny. I've been considering the RP, and tried it out in the shop with that RF50… OMG! Those RF lenses are off the "fo'shizzle!…" Like you I prefer to shoot 35, 85, and 135, and so I think I'll wait for now, until that RF 15-35 f2.8 comes out maybe next year. I think I will sell one of my systems when I upgrade; maybe even two of them... we will see. Thanks for puttying your thoughts out on this. Love the shots by the way, especially the one from the RF50.... :0)
Thank you for the kind words! I feel like those are rare on UA-cam while plentiful on Instagram. I’m waiting and saving for the RF 70-200, and just sold my EF 70-200 in anticipation. However, since this video I bought an EF 50L and decided to stay invested in EF mostly, because for most of my video projects I’m using multiple cameras (I bought a small army of 6D’s very cheap from a wedding photographer and use them to cover like 4 angles of a haircut at once- until I have 3 more RF bodies, likely never, I’m sticking with EF glass).
I've been looking at so many reviews and all I see is people bashing the cam for it's video capturing performance. But ignore it also takes pictures, pictures are what I care about most and after watching your review I've finally made up my mind and will be getting this cam soon. Videos come second to me and good picture quality is what I care most about
Great video! It is SOOO refreshing to hear someone talk about this camera without preconceived notions about the EOS RP or coming from a perspective of a vlogger who only wants some kind of perfect video camera. I have an EOS T1i so anything is an improvement, but the cost factor for me is problematic. I really want it though. As you say it's made for the casual shooter, that may be true, but I have seen a video with an accomplished wedding photographer who uses two as his main cameras now, so it can get professional results as well. Again, it's nice to see someone talk about this camera as if it's a camera and not a complete failure for Canon, like they are going to fold because of this camera or something... Some youtube creators are so dramatic with their reviews man I'm not lying! Great video!!
Awesome video. I was on the fence with this camera and feel your pain as far as RF, EF, and EF-S lenses. I’m confident that Canon has already anticipated this and new FF’s are in the works. I’m ordering the RP in the morning. You should be a Canon ambassador. Your unbiased opinion is music to my ears. I’ve watched hundreds of reviews on UA-cam and yours made the biggest impact on my decision to purchase one. Thanks for taking the time to make this video. Keep up the good work. 👏
Thank you! I bought an EOS R shortly after this (I own and use both now) and I plan to do a video about it soon. Your feedback is greatly appreciated, I get insecure about sharing these types of reviews because I'm not a techie guy and I'm not a pro photographer. But I do shoot a LOT and it is a huge part of my business, and I really do feel like all the reviews are too spec-based and don't give me an idea about what it's like to own a piece of gear...
Dude, this is such a cool video... and btw you got 3,4k views and only 4 dislikes... not 37! I've been watching about 40 different videos trying to convince myself what to buy next... Sony A6400, Eos RP or R. But since I am also a product photographer and not a videographer by any means... I really like the focus bracketing feature on this camera which is also not spoken of much. I think this camera is a winner! Thanks for sharing your views on it. ✌🏽
New technology seems to always being challenging us about what to do with the older peripherals. Lenses are so expensive that it is great the Canon has given us compatibility with our old lenses, but it seems to me that the RF system is the future and you should be buying those awsome lenses. Your 5D has started the journey to join that old film camera you showed us. I use Capture One 12. CI recognises the EOS-R but not the RP. At present I am having to use Adobe DNG converter. Thank you for your comments on .jpgs - I think I am going to be using them more as well
upgrading to the RP today. Ive been using my 6D mk i for the last couple years for weddings, portraits and events. at the end of the day the camera is simply a tool for you to use. loved your review on it!!!! im getting the RF to EF adapter so i can use my 70-200 2.8!!! cant wait
Nice. If you're been able to work with a 6D then this will feel like a huge upgrade in terms of the little conveniences (like the flippy touch screen, faster wifi, focus tracking, etc). You probably won't gain any speed with this camera, but the fun factor and convenience factor will go up.
@@vinvanid hey it's been amazing I've used it for weddings, portraits, real estate and it's handled everything. I like the EVF but i mostly use the LCD screen. I use a battery grip to extend the life of it since i use it for weddings
@@ditermejia6027 Thank you for sharing your experience with it.. Why do you prefer LCD than EVF? Isn't it make the image taken more shaky ? I wonder why some canon mirrorless user use LCD more than the EVF..
@@vinvanid as long as your shutter speed is above 1/60 you shouldnt have no problem with it. I use the LCD screen because you get a bigger picture and therefore a better view . I've been take a shop by my waist and flip out the LCD screen instead of having to kneel down and look through the viewfinder. It comes down to personal preference
Great great video man... Helped me a lot to confirm my purchase... Waiting for the RP tomorrow!!! I understand you the dilemma with both cameras and EF / RF lenses... but having a Rebel crop sensor is a really good upgrade for me. Thanks again man..!
Yes, was also my first thinking... the grain looks like analog film. Its so true. Great that you talked about it. My thinking was I am the only one how see this this way.
There’s a lot to be said for the fun factor. I think low key, canon knows this and is keeping it at the front of their designs. Today I feel like everyone is a pixel peeper, but for me the experience and the feel, even the feel of certain “imperfections” is a huge factor in what and how I shoot. Something I want to challenge myself to do is borrow a Sony for long enough to see how fun it is. I’ve only used Sony for short trials and never got comfortable with the menus or controls, but I’m wondering how much of the RP’s fun is from that canon intuition vs having mirrorless capabilities.
Listening to you ramble on for 28 mins.. Just Awesome. Real world talk. Eat the noodles and drink the sauce. Priceless. Well done. 👍 Having ef-s lenses and being able to use on the RP is great.
3-26-2021, 2:53PM, PST INBODY CROP OUTSTANDING: I could go from a 300mm lens to a 480mm lens at the tip of a finger. This can be applied to any lens that you mount on the RP. I never paid any attention to it until I saw your video. I set up late one night and experiment with a combination of different lenses. With a calculator in hand I figure out different 1.6x Crop combinations, this was awesome. Nothing better to do at 2AM in the morning. (Retired) LOL. I know some people this camera is now outdated but who cares. Whatever floats your boat. This is an outstanding piece of equipment. Remember whatever lens you have now you have two. Oh by the way, I have a vertical battery grip that holds two LP-E17 batteries which is a aftermarket unit, it doubles the battery life. (Amazon). Not plugging anything. LOL. 🐢 📷 🐢 📷 🐢 📷
I just got it and I love it, and believe me before buying it i watched maybe 50 videos about it, but no one mention the issue of the CR3, which was a horrible surprise for me, but this said this camera is a huge update for whoever is coming from a crop sensor dslr.
@@SamS-jn6fx Hey Sam no worries, actually the raw format of canon switched from cr2 to cr3 and my version of lightroom did not recognize it, so i had to first convert my fils into dng and then upload them to lightroom so my workflow got longer, but dont worry new version of lightroom recognize immediately now. So no more issues here.
Thanks for doing this video. I recently purchased the EOS RP and have never done a video like this but now I probably will just to compare my experiences of a Canon 5D Mk4 user going to the EOS RP. Interesting what you said about the CR3 files, if you convert everything to DNG in Lightroom during import the files become universal and you won’t need to shoot raw+JPEG. I always shoot raw+JPEG(medium) so I have the best of both worlds in case I need to quickly send an image to my phone. Totally agree about keeping the EF lenses and using them with the adapter. I only have one Canon mirrorless body and several Canon DSLR bodies, it doesn’t make sense for me to buy lenses that only work on one body. I’m waiting for a mirrorless body that will equal or surpass the 5D Mk4 and then I’ll start investing in more RF mount bodies and eventually the scales will tip in that direction. The lack of 24fps is on my list of advantages the EOS R has over the EOS RP: - EOS R uses the same LP-E6N batteries as my Canon 5D Mk4, EOS RP uses a completely different battery - EOS R has a max shutter speed of 1/8000 sec, EOS RP has a max shutter speed of 1/4000 sec - EOS R can use a battery grip, EOS RP doesn't have any battery grip option - EOS R has USB 3.1 (5Gb/sec), EOS RP has USB 2.0 (480Mb/sec) - EOS R has 24fps for video, EOS RP does not (unless you shoot cropped 4k) - EOS R is 30MP, EOS RP is 26MP - not as drastic as some of the other differences but if I'm getting a new camera I'd rather the sensor be equal to or greater than my existing 5D Mk4 bodies.
Best review yet. Obviously from a guy that’s actually really used the camera. I didn’t know about half it’s features till I watched this. I’m looking to buy one but have been confused by all the negative reviews. I would like to add that I’m sure the battery is the same as the ones in my m5. So hey thanks for that Canon. I don’t need 2 battery systems now. Don’t think anyone mentioned that. My M system has an adapter to use full frame lenses an so I can use them on both systems. Again thanks for the review totally the best I’ve seen on any camera yet. Totally honest opinion. Definitely the camera for me (not its own lens range though as way over my budget) Thanks for the review. 👍
It's important that your viewers understand that your issue with having EF and RF lenses is not the fault of the Canon EOS RP. Your also going to have this issue with the EOS R. Or any Canon mirrorless camera with an RF mount.
Regarding the noise feeling like film grain, that's actually a thing in a lot of mirrorless cameras and it's a good thing. It makes the photos look much warmer and filmy instead of glitchy and webcamy.
Apple needs to release an update to support the raw files from the Canon RP. CR3 is not a standard file format... it varies with every camera! For example when I first got my Canon RP, I couldn't use Lightroom for about a month until Adobe released an update for the RP. Hopefully Apple will add support for the RP with macOS Catalina (or sooner).
You can use Adobe DNG converter to convert the CR3 files to DNG. Then they will work on your Mac until Apple releases the next Camera Raw update -- I expect that to happen September 2019.
It was a pleasure to see this review! Nowadays if a camera isn't called Sony, it doesn't record 4K 240fps or it doesn't have a 500k ISO range or a dynamic range of 25 stops seems not to be able to capture photos. I found this review very helpful because in addition to the cons you also talked about the pros.. and yes, for those interested in the photo side, this camera is a little beast, in quality and price ratio So, just ordered it!
You bring up a lot of points that others haven’t mentioned. My RP just arrived, camera only, no lens. And canon’s base model lens adapters are all backordered(!) here in sept 2020. Soooo, maybe i’ll consider the adapter you mentioned that has the control ring. Great review.
Thanks your opinion on this camera is interesting. I understand you're stuck between two systems (EF/RF), but I think that buying an EF lens nowadays is a mistake. We are just at the begining of the RF mount. Once they will decide to sell a pro mirrorless camera with dual cards and a decent burst mode, I won't see any benefits of having a DSLR. I think EF mount is dead, the adapter is here only to let people do the transition with their expensive glass.
I only tried the EOS RP for a short amount of time, but I can tell that some big issues I was having on my 5D III instantly disapeared : - in the viewfinder, you see your real exposure, no need to shoot -> check -> adjust -> reshoot... - autofocus is much more precise, especially with wide aperture lenses, and easy to use. Joystick selection on 5D is too slow in my opinion. And that eye AF is just perfect, it would have save me tons of wedding pictures. Also I had big issues focusing under colored led lights, the 5D is just lost. I'm certain the RP don't have this issue with dual pixel autofocus - you can see your real depth of field in the viewfinder, which help having two people in focus for example
I’m barely getting into photography... and looking to buy my first camera. I’m never planning to go pro, so this video has been very informative for my buying experience. I’m definitely going to look at the adapter you use. Thanks!
I hear you on the lens dilemma. The conclusion I’ve come to is the RF mount is the future. It might be simpler to just ditch the SLR bodies completely and go all in on the RF mount. Keep the EF lenses you have and replace them when funds allow. For my film SLR I’ve gone down to just two lenses, the 40mm stm prime and the 50mm stm prime. I generally shoot wider when snapshotting with my film bodies, so that works for me, otherwise, I’m transitioning over to RF for everything.
I actually have the SL2. Just bought the RP as my first foray in the full frame world. I like the fact the RP doesn't have a lot of gimmicks and it's cheap while still full frame. I'm gonna adapt some EF lenses and see what it can do. People talk about poor dynamic range but if people are shooting at poor exposure, they are the problem, not the camera.
The way I see the dynamic range issue, is that there are people who only shoot when they know it'll look good, and they won't pull out the camera in bad lighting or whatever, and then there are people who will shoot everything anyways, try to save it in post. The longer I keep at this, the more I find myself leaving my camera in the bag unless I know I'm going to get a good shot. With crazy dynamic range you can pull detail out of shots in less than ideal lighting. I personally would just rather wait for (or more often, create) good light. In my studio dynamic range isn't an issue, I dial in all the light and it's good. I do understand that there are types of photography where the only option is to have great dynamic range, but I think the RP is still amazing for most photography.
@@andrewdoeshair ahh okay. How are would you say the camera performs in less than ideal light, but exposed to the right? I've been reading and seeing people say the sensor on the RP is much better at pulling detail from the highlights, than pulling detail out of the shadows. A couple UA-camrs even say to expose to the right by one or two stops. I'm gonna test out the camera for a couple weeks. If it's a bad buy, it gets returned.
Just bought it 😄, had the a6400 and still have the ZV-1. Bought it because I wanted something that actually looks and feels like cameras from my youth. The Sony cameras have better specs, the Canon a better photograph and video experience. In the end video on my Sony is 1080/60. Can see all my files on my Mac, and have 24fps in 1080, will give that another try after watching your video. Thanks for sharing.
I just watched this a year after you posted it! Very nice realistic review, I just bought the RP, and I am now seeing the same things you did. I will only buy a few RF lenses and only for the focal lengths where there are major improvements over the EF lenses. RF85 f2 and maybe the future RF 70-200 f4. I will be getting the control ring adapter
Great review mate. I have the 5DS and 5DM4, but need something smaller as well as a second camera for indoor bad light situations as changing lenses all the time is very frustrating on a shoot. This camera doesnt really fit the bill, but its by far the best deal out there right now for my needs.
The dynamic range and the noise is really not the greatest, but if you can hold off for a few months until the R is even cheaper I think that may be a great fit. I ended up buying the R shortly after this video and the low light performance and dynamic range are phenomenal next to the RP
The only reason I decided to keep my eos m50 instead of upgrading to the eos rp is because they both suck in 4k :( so i was just going to pay for better photos. I'm going to wait until they make a camera that's better for video as i love making videos. Hopefully we can finally get 120 fps at 1080 if they do that i will buy it! I'm a huge supported of mirror less cameras because i care more about portability than anything else. The rf lenses are the future! They're so much better. And there's even an adapter that has an nd filter 😱
I think you’re right about the similarities to the M50... Since I made this clip I’ve been fiddling with the video features a lot more and pretty much feel like it’s not even worth calling a “full frame camera” when it comes to video. I mean there’s the obvious 1.75 crop in 4K but then if you use the digital stabilization you lose like, another .25, so for many video applications you’re not using the full sensor. It’s only a full frame if you’re shooting at 30/60fps on a tripod 😐
Your comment about this video seems spot on, it was just an easy vid to watch. Should be more videos like this on UA-cam. Cheers mate, very nice and entertaining.
Check our Lightroom “Smart Preview” settings. You can set up an Import Preset to set the resolution. Be aware that the only time LR uses the Smart Preview for showing you edits is when the PC does not have access to the actual RAW file.
Thanks for a great, sober yet honest and heartful view of the RP. Managed to change my opinion of the camera. However, I don’t have any hands on experience with it as you do so your opinions count a hellovalot more! Thank you! :)
They need a grip but it should take the 5DM3 batteries that would be game changer. Great upgrade from my M50. 5dm3 for pro work and this for fun / pro work.
Aí man, the preview issue is a easy one to fix. select the photos you want fixed, go to photos, built preview, and choose the resolution of your previews... tada!
This video was very well done. Andrewdoeshair for a non-professional you critiqued the Canon EOS RP to confirm that the camera is worth the purchase. I just purchased the camera and was having second doubts, I'm just picking up photography. I wanted to thank you for the experience you put forth including the information on the lenses.
I had the RP since it was release and mostly use it as my travel camera and family outings. I agree with all your findings. Never bothered with the extension grip. Whats the point. I only dislike that the IS is always on and very noticeable with my EF L lenses. Love the control ring on my RF 35 F1.8 lens. Hmm never thought about using the CROP option. Will try it.
Hey I enjoyed your video first thing is I'm an owner of a SL2 how did ever since 17 just bought the RP about 2 weeks ago now first full frame but what I want to suggest to you after watching your video just stick with ef lenses because I figured and plan on doing the same thing my SL2 is going to be for my video and my RP for stills so stick with ef lenses can't go wrong that way thanks keep the videos coming or tricks or how to with the RP appreciate it.
Please correct me if I am wrong. But why would you use the In-Camera-Crop to x1.6 if you could reach just the same result when cropping in later? When using the in Camera-Crop you just lose some of the data you could capture.
Sometimes a faster and easier work flow is more important to me than saving the most data possible. If I’m shooting a client (I’m talking about a haircut client, not a photography client) they just want a small jpeg air dropped to them in the next two minutes to post on their instagram, then I lose no necessary data by cropping the sensor. I just get to feeeeel like I’m swapping between a 50mm/85mm or between 85mm/135mm if I want to crop the sensor. It’s all about the feeling of each perceived focal length, and also about quicker work flow, at least whenever it’s not all about max data (which is most of the time, for me). The sensor can also be cropped to 1:1 or 16:9 for photo, which is great for shooting instagram photos and also for grabbing a quick cover photo for UA-cam, again, when maximum convenience outweighs maximum data.
So, over a year later.... What did you decide to do with your lenses? Did you decide to commit to RF or did you go to the EF adapted route? Good video :) Thank you!
A few months ago I sold almost all of my EF lenses and got an RF 70-200 (you can find the review and comparison to an RF 85mm F1.2 that I borrowed, on my channel). Today I only own three lenses- a Sigma 24-35mm F2 Art, a plastic little nifty fifty, and the RF 70-200. I’ve really been enjoying having less lenses and I plan to keep the kit small as I continue to upgrade (dream kit would be the RF 15-35, the rumored upcoming stabilized RF 50mm F1.8, and the RF 70-200)
Thank you so much for this video. As a amateur 7d mark II user who wants to be smaller and more agile on trips and around town but wants good specs for post, this was so insightful. You mentioned a number of things that were not mentioned in any other reviews that are pretty cool, esp the crop sensor trick for getting a higher focal length. Awesome! I wanted to stay canon since I like their system and share lenses with my partner who also has a canon but was really drawn by the 64xx/66xx series Sony’s. This has me really thinking back in the canon camp again. I wonder if the 4K autofocus is software and might be fixed or improved in an upgraded software update. Thanks again!!
30 frames per second is for adverts commercials and tv shows 24 FPS adds cinematic motion blur amongst other cinematic visuals like depth of field something you would not get really at 30 FPS
That about film look I have noticed on some sample 4k video from that camera. In some weird way (probably intentionally) image out of this resemble film look like nothing else I have seen before. Grate thoughts and points. I totally feel you about that lens dilemma. RF feels like trap at this point. Probably best to wait and see how things gonna be in the future for that system. It feels like very smart to stay with EF for time being. Cheers and big thumbs up!
Great video, loved the pasta analogy! I understand your dilemma about the different lenses. I have sold my DSLRs, and most of my EF lenses, with exception of a 135. I do not like the adapting, so I will be purchasing all RF lenses. I started with the 24-105 (which I love) and I will be adding the 50 1.2 for more portrait oriented stuff. Might be a little expensive initially, but selling the older stuff will help.
Hi Daniel ur 24-105 RF lens is it good for portrait at 105 f4 as I m thinking to get RP with this lens and looking to use for all purpose until any cheap RF 85mm comes out. Your reply would be highly appreciated. Thanks
I recently got that lens and I would say it’s very much worth the money. It sits between good and great as far as sharpness, the AF is lightning fast and is silent, stabilization is remarkable. If you go to my Instagram (@andrewdoeshair) and look for the photo set of a woman with a painted face, that whole set was shot with the RF 24-105mm... You won’t get gnarly bokeh, but for weight, convenience, video, basically everything but low light and mega shallow depth of field, it’s a killer lens.
thanks for the effort and the sharing. i imagine someone will be clever enough to create an rf->ef lens adapter rather than the current ef->rf offering by canon. it is now 4.5 months since you posted this vid. your current thoughts on the rp? thumbs up.
Hello I have to choose between the RP with the 24-105 RF kit lens and 5Dmk3 with 24-105 EF. What should i choose for event photos and daily workhorse (not doing videography)?
In my experience, the 5Diii will feel more robust, a lot tougher, and if I need to grab a shot in a split second it’s much faster to configure and focus. There’s also the weather sealed aspect to it that’s nice. However, the RP has so many bells and whistles that the 5D doesn’t, bells and whistles I never needed before but can’t live without now. Like WiFi, touch screen, usb charging, etc. If I’m shooting in a clean controlled environment where I can take my time then RP all day, but if I were shooting in a dirty or rainy scenario I’d prefer the 5Diii... Also, though, I’d consider the future- the 5Diii aged beautifully for years but is now becoming a classic relic. With the RP you’ll be a little more future proof. Oh yeah, lastly, the RF glass is beautiful. I’ve owned the EF 24-105 and I own the RF 24-105 now, and the RF is way nicer. I never checked side by side but the RF feels considerably lighter, the focus is instant and silent, and the stabilization is silent.
Canon could make the spacer backwards compatible to allow RF lenses to work on EF mounts. Maybe an extra lens like in the speed booster could make it work.
I went to look at a Z6 but tried out a R and RP as well - I really liked the RP - I notice your into hair - that's what I film - you just popped up on my YT. 😎👌 PS - here in PAL land we get 25fps on it - how daft are Canon.
Nice, I’ve just subscribed. It looks like many of your clients are actually friends of mine! I do a lot of work in Dublin (see Sam’s Barbers in dame court or along the Liffey near the ha’penny). Next time I’m out there we should grab a creamy dreamy pint and nerd out on camera talk
I ended up also buying an EOS R and planned on the RP collecting some dust, but since that update I’ve been using both cameras regularly. I think canon deserves some applause for the firmware updates, but also I can’t believe they were ever shipping cameras with that original firmware- they were OKAY but compared to the update it’s a completely different camera. I feel like their mirrorless cameras would’ve gotten a much different response from consumers if they got the firmware right from the start
lol, sony has been rocking 3 dials forever. canon decides to put one on the adapter or lens. i am intrigued in this RP though just because of the colors.
I'm not one of those Canon guys who hates Sony, I think they're great. the only reason I haven't switched is that I'm soooo deeply invested in Canon glass, and am genuinely curious about Canon's future-- they (seem to) keep things simpler and more user friendly, and that's actually also why I give way too much money to Apple, as well. I'm not a spec nerd pixel peeper kind of guy, I just want something fun and intuitive-- in fact if I can have some control removed so I don't get analysis paralysis, that's even better. My friends who use Sony get soooo much more into detail than I do, and it could just be a culture thing that Sony attracts more of those kinds of shooters, but canon somehow has made me believe that good enough is good enough, and there's a weird kind of freedom there (laughing emoji here)
Thank you, great advice. As soon as Canon announces a “pro mirrorless” I’m selling all of these and getting that. The reason I was so interested in the RP and finding the good in it, is that my followers and students (see @Andrewdoeshair on Instagram) are barbers and hairstylists who dabble in photography- not professional photographers). I wanted to see if the “cheap full frame” was worth recommending for haircut portraits. But the points I made here ended up being less “hair portrait” focused than I had originally intended 🤷♂️
andrewdoeshair I agree, I just recently gotten into photography. I got a T6i for a steak and that was 2 years ago. Just got the EOS RP a couple months ago. So for I’m loving it. I’m a complete amateur big you can see some of the imagines I captured @bigwyrmmm on Instagram. I’m not into shooting video and that was the main reason I got it over the R. Great video keep up the work you’ve earned my loyalty.
Hi I'm so glad you have the SL2 and the RP! I'm looking to upgrade from the SL2 (it's the best camera I've personally owned and used) my upgrades so far have been small and mediocre (t5-t6-sl2) so now I'm hoping my next upgrade to actually be a larger difference and hopefully wow me but also still be affordable. I'm now looking at an RP would be my first fullframe and first mirrorless. Since you own both can you please tell me if there's a noticeable quality difference and if this upgrade will wow me? Video isn't important for me right now in a professional aspect only take personal family videos.
Where you'll really (and immediately) see a difference is at the low end of your aperture. If you're used to using a 50mm F1.8 on your crop sensor cameras, it'll feel way wider on the RP, but you won't lose any subject isolation to get this wider look, as compared to putting a 35mm on a crop sensor for a similar field of view. When you shoot at like, 85mm F1.8 or F1.4 on a full frame you'll get a similar field of view as a 50mm on your crop sensor, but you'll get a depth of field that is impossible to achieve with a 50mm on a crop sensor. So it's those 1.2, 1.4, and 1.8 areas on any lens where you'll start getting looks in your images that you couldn't before. If you use an 85mm at F2.8 on a full frame you'll get a similar look to 50mm F1.8 on a crop sensor. So if you make this upgrade, you'll notice it immediately when you're shooting wide open. If you've been shooting at F4 or higher anyways, you likely won't see a massive difference.
@@andrewdoeshair Thank you so much for responding! I do have the ef 50mm 1.8 and a 24mm 2.8 efs but I'm thinking I'll probably want to replace those with 85mm and a 35mm
@@victoriajohnson2122 35 and 85 are sooo nice together! Look into the Tamron 35mm F1.8 if you plan on keeping the crop sensor for a second camera and want something stabilized for video-- same specs as the RF 35 (stabilized F1.8) but you'll still be able to use it with your EF cameras. Actually this video was done with said Tamron on an SL2... 85mm can be very hard to shop for, since they all seem to be lacking in some area. I first owned a Rokinon 85mm F1.2 and I loved it- optically it was very impressive (although it had a strong green tint) but the lack of auto focus had me eventually move to Canon's 85mm F1.2L ii, which had severe color fringing issues and slowwwwww auto focus, so I recently switched to a Sigma 85mm Art, and while it's super duper sharp with quick auto focus, the out of focus areas are sort of ugly (I have a video about it, see "questions for sigma owners" on my channel). Lately I've been contemplating Canon's newer 85mm F1.4L because it's stabilized, or Tamron's 85mm F1.8 for the same reason (and to save a buck). But ultimately it's a really fun challenge and pursuit to find the gear that works best for ya :)
@@andrewdoeshair I'm planning to sell my crop at the moment not sure what camera I'll want as a back up or if this rp will some day become the backup. I was thinking about getting the RF 35mm have you used it? Oh no that's sad news for the 85mm.. the RF 85 options are very expensive but I know most people say it's best to stay native so if I can afford any that'll be my plan.
Great vid. Still stuck with the first world problem of getting the RP or shelling out for the R. I think the R will fix your noise issue. But can't see much else lol
I want an eos RP but not small! Don't know why entry level camera means a small camera :/ like X-T30 Fuji. I need a cheaper camera with decent bodyt size. THis RP is the most affordable modern FF mirrorless, but the limitation from the factory are so dissapointing, just marketing with damage final customers. They can do it but they don't do it and you get an "halved" camera body not only for the size, but expecially for the functions. Firmware solved banding problem when increasing exposure even at base ISO? (dustin abbott video)
Ordered one from Adorama. They refused to inform me that the EF eos r adapter is on backorder so I guess I’ll just be staring at my camera and lens until I can actually use it.
I don’t thiiiink a single button can do it, but I have it saved on the custom menu so that I can do it in 2 or three button presses. I would love it if I could do it with one button
I hated on this camera when it first came out my experience with the af was horrriibbbllllleeeeee. After the update its like a whole new camera and i must have it back in my life lol. About to drop my a7rii for it.
Download an NTFS file reader app to your Mac and it will allow your Mac to open raw files. That’s what I have with mine and it opens cr3 files from my R perfectly fine!
They work perfectly, the only downside is that your lens get longer with the adapter, compared to a native RF lens. I'm waiting for tamron and sigma to give us affordable RF lenses :-D
What's already been mentioned here-- absolutely perfect adaptation. I did have a small issue with a Tamron lens giving me a weird circle, but I discovered that it was some kind of distortion correction setting that was glitchy
I am such a Canon fan but every EOS RP review just discourages me as a videographer. All reviews claim this is not a videographers dream camera. I do not wanna change to SONY or FujiFilm... noooo
If anyone still finds this video, here’s the 2021 update... Canon gave us 24fps in 1080 shortly after I made this video. Completely negated and solved the whole “video problems” portion of this video. CR3 files now preview on my Mac. I bought the extension grip for the RP and it became the most comfortable camera I’ve ever held. I sold all my EF lenses and ended up getting the RF 24-70, 50 1.8, and 70-200 (couldn’t be happier). I bought an EOS R to replace my 5Diii and found that other than adding C Log and 4K DPAF the R was hardly worth the upgrade over an RP, as I only sometimes need those things (I have a video on the comparison). I sold the RP because a friend offered me his EOS R for very very cheap, and having two identical cameras is just great. Ultimately I started to notice frustration with both the R and RP tracking while backlit or with a dark exposure (even in adequate lighting, if the exposure was dark, say to retain your highlights, the cameras sucked) and I also noticed I was regularly frustrated with menu dives to change things like focus modes or white balance, there weren’t enough programmable shortcuts with either camera to make them quickly adaptable to frequently changing scenes. I sold one of the R’s two months ago for an R6 which solved every problem I had with both the RP and R. I still think the RP is the most amazing value for general content creators who might focus on portraiture and simple videos (hairdressers on IG!) especially if you need to make a LOT of content frequently. The big value in the RP over (say) an M50 is that the price spread from APS-C to this full frame is smaller than the price spread between an F1.8 and F1.2 lens, and is about the same price as adding a speed booster to the M50, so if that “full frame look” is a goal you REALLY can’t beat the RP’s value. If you want to focus more heavily on video and plan to grade/etc the footage then the EOS R is worth the upgrade. If you’re shooting action or anything in a quickly changing environment and you want a camera that adapts quickly without looking at menus ever, look into the R6. And if you’re not sure if you need the R5 then you don’t need the R5.
Do you think the RP or R present an upgrade over the 5D Mark III?
@@alexhagen5105 different kind of tools altogether, almost apples and oranges. Both the RP and the R user interface and controls felt wayyyy lacking compared to my 5Diii, they are cumbersome and slow by comparison- as far as photography goes the experience with the RP/P felt a lot like using a Rebel or an M50. However, the video capabilities with both the RP and R made things which were impossible with the 5Diii possible- due to the flippy screen and focus tracking in video. If all I did was photo I could have happily stayed with the 5Diii forever, but because I began dabbling with making UA-cam videos I felt like I was almost forced into the RF system. Now that I’m using an R6 I have zero complaints (almost zero, the R6 jumps to auto iso by accident sometimes and I hate it). So yeah, long story short, if I’m 100% photo I’d personally take a 5D over the R/RP but if I’m also doing casual video I’d go with the RP and if I’m trying to do a little bit more serious video I’d go with the R.
Thank you for that detailed response! I think the main reason for me wanting to switch is the eye autofocus these mirrorless cameras have. I have a 10 month old son who is constantly moving and I feel like the eye autofocus feature will be extremely handy. And also the weight! I feel like the lighter weight would be beneficial. From my understanding both the canon eos RP and R have similar image quality. Would you say that’s correct too? Again thanks!
@@alexhagen5105 when I was using the R and RP I was constantly cussing at my camera because the eye auto focus wasn’t very reliable while trying to shoot my toddler. On both of those cameras I found that eye AF is a great convenience for still subjects and it worked fine in sort of curated scenarios where the lighting was decent and the model was willing, but when put into real scenarios with less than perfect lighting and a squirrelly model I was constantly disappointed or frustrated. I would regularly yell toward my toddler in order to get her to look up at me so that the camera would recognize a face, otherwise it was focusing on a shoulder or a nearby flower. When I borrowed an R5 my wife commented that I wasn’t cussing at my camera, and I ended up ordering an R6 that same night. The tracking with the R5 and R6 is miles ahead of the RP/R. That was half of the reason I moved on to R6 (ergonomics and customization was the other half). But the R5/R6 know to grab the side or back of a head while the RP/R kind of need to see both eyes and a mouth before it recognizes that there’s a face in the frame. I mean there are workarounds with RP/R like setting an initial point for tracking then repeatedly going back to that point when it starts tracking something you don’t want, or you can drag across the screen to target a new subject, but the former ends up being as much work as just using a single point on your 5D and the latter requires a few precious seconds for the camera to lock on to the new target. To answer your other question, the image quality between R and RP is negligible in most cases but is massive when the cameras are pushed to limits. After light edits on well lit scenes you wouldn’t tell which camera was used, but heavily pulling up shadows at 6400 ISO will put the EOS R noticeably ahead of the RP.
@@andrewdoeshair that’s a huge help, thanks so much! Image quality wise compared to the 5D . How would you say the R or RP did?
The RP gets an unfair amount of hate, as do most Canon releases, but it has a ton to offer. 👍
Yeah but the biggest cons is not having the 24p in 1080 Full HD, This is really very annoying & painful, why Canon did this to us;:-(
@@vivekranjantube they actually fixed that issue in a firmware update late last year I believe
@@dylanwylie9155 Next he’ll talk about the bad autofocus, which was also fixed by 1.3.0/1.4.0.
What do you get with the R6 that you can’t do with the R8, I understand the R8 is the upgrades improved RP ?
I like how you look at this camera different than the majority of others who have reviewed it, I particularly like your review of the noise/grain.
I have the RP with the extension grip and it is killer. I’m a raw shooter and a processing junkie, and the raws in C1Pro are amazing. I also noticed the grain/noise aspect that you pointed out in your video. It’s very tight and does look a lot like fine grain film grain.
BTW, this camera is an absolute beast with the latest firmware. The touch-focus is insanely fast and dead accurate in any lighting condition. The focus square movement is immediate and has zero lag. Beats the the hell out of screwing around with a joy stick.
You can do great things with the RP. I love mine.
I'm an enthusiast landscape photographer with a young child so I also dabble in portraits and slower actions shots of her obviously. I am moving to Full Frame after my D5600 Aps-c recently broke. Having to buy body & lens I am even more limited at this time within my already limited budget. I am extremely intrigued by the EOS RP but worried about the noise & shadow recovery even at base ISO. I am torn between EOS RP and maybe an older a7R ii that comes to nearly the exact same price. Love to hear your thoughts.
My wife has the A7III, so I can relate to the differences. Right out of the gate, the A7III has better DR at base ISO, no denying that. As the ISO increases, the DR differences become less and less. At 1600 and above, they are very close. Handling wise, the RP is far superior, especially with the extension grip. It feels better in the hands and isn't as cramped. The RP menu system, IMO, is also much better.Customization with the RP is extremely versatile, given the button layout and menu options. One of the main reasons I bought the RP was so I could use the excellent RF24-105. IMO, it has no peer in its range and is optically superior to the Sony version in every way. IBIS was never a consideration, since the RF24-105 has 5 stops of IS built-in. Plus, the lens has a programmable control ring, which I use for exposure compensation. Low light AF is better with the RP, also. It's very accurate and quick to focus, even in extreme conditions. Image quality wise, both cameras are very close. In Capture One, I prefer the RP color rendering over the A7III.You may want to check out the Scott Drexler UA-cam video. He uses the RP professionally as a wedding photographer.
@@ChicagoRob2 Thank you for the reply!
Saw the video on him using the RP during weddings :) been scouring all the RP videos of coarse. The RF lens' are definitely quite something! I would start off with the 24-240 for general purpose and hiking. Then add a wide like a 15mm prime or classic 16-35. I would do this with either system. On the canon due to cost I would start with only the one RF and then get a used EF L series until able to afford more RF glass. I have held both the Sony & the RP and didn't mind either though yes the RP is a bit more ergonomic. I like the idea of focus stacking made easy by the touch screen on RP but again hesitant on that shadow recovery especially during sunsets/rises which I shoot a ton of! Though i'm sure either of these will be way ahead of my old D5600 in that regard.
@@nikrowe4261 Hey I'm wondering if you have bought the RP and could help me out as I've got pretty much the same question/issue as you: I'm thinking of upgrading my old 600d and the RP seems to be a good option. But as I only photograph landscapes I wonder if the shadow recovery thing will be a major issue and if I should be rather getting a 90d (or Sony 7II or something else).
@@carlo.b I ended up going with the a7ii and love it, but it isn't the a7r iii that made me fall in love with Sony in the first place. From the test RAW files of the RP I got my hands on I didn't like the shadow lifting ability in post (DR). I would say Robert's reply to my initial comment is spot on as well. I held a friends canon for the first time over this past weekend and was immediately in love with its feel. So much so that being I only have the old a7ii body & 1 tamron travel zoom I may look at Cannon for my next big purchase.
What a conversation! I like your frank and personal take on the photography gear. I am still considering this camera in 2022. Doesn’t break the bank, doesn’t break my investment in EF lenses, and gives me excellent stills and the latter is most important to me. Thanks for the review Andrew.
Nice, down-to-earth commentary on an incredibly versatile, nice camera that got so much unfair reviews! I have it since a couple of weeks and keeps amazing me. I am using less and less my 5D MKIV.
This was down to earth, informative and also entertaining. Thanks for taking the time to make it!
All that shared insight is exactly why I'm loving learning what the RP can do, esp with the latest firmware. Amazingly detailed review. Loved it!
This is one of the best reviews of the EOS RP that I've ever seen. I feel your joy as well as your pain; especially the CR3 files LOL. Your ideas on what could be done with the control ring are absolutely brilliant, I hope Canon are watching… this has got me excited for the potential future.
I've been shooting DSLR 5Dmk2, 6Dmk2 and added the EOS M50 a year ago, and loving it to bits. I tried my best to stay with EF lenses because like you, I didn't want two different lens systems bouncing about, but I've just got my first M lens, the M22 2.0 for the sheer size, which is what you want for street photography. It's amazing! The small M50 is now absolutely tiny.
I've been considering the RP, and tried it out in the shop with that RF50… OMG! Those RF lenses are off the "fo'shizzle!…" Like you I prefer to shoot 35, 85, and 135, and so I think I'll wait for now, until that RF 15-35 f2.8 comes out maybe next year. I think I will sell one of my systems when I upgrade; maybe even two of them... we will see. Thanks for puttying your thoughts out on this. Love the shots by the way, especially the one from the RF50.... :0)
Thank you for the kind words! I feel like those are rare on UA-cam while plentiful on Instagram. I’m waiting and saving for the RF 70-200, and just sold my EF 70-200 in anticipation. However, since this video I bought an EF 50L and decided to stay invested in EF mostly, because for most of my video projects I’m using multiple cameras (I bought a small army of 6D’s very cheap from a wedding photographer and use them to cover like 4 angles of a haircut at once- until I have 3 more RF bodies, likely never, I’m sticking with EF glass).
I've been looking at so many reviews and all I see is people bashing the cam for it's video capturing performance. But ignore it also takes pictures, pictures are what I care about most and after watching your review I've finally made up my mind and will be getting this cam soon. Videos come second to me and good picture quality is what I care most about
Great video! It is SOOO refreshing to hear someone talk about this camera without preconceived notions about the EOS RP or coming from a perspective of a vlogger who only wants some kind of perfect video camera. I have an EOS T1i so anything is an improvement, but the cost factor for me is problematic. I really want it though. As you say it's made for the casual shooter, that may be true, but I have seen a video with an accomplished wedding photographer who uses two as his main cameras now, so it can get professional results as well. Again, it's nice to see someone talk about this camera as if it's a camera and not a complete failure for Canon, like they are going to fold because of this camera or something... Some youtube creators are so dramatic with their reviews man I'm not lying! Great video!!
Great vid. I have an RP and feel the same way. Thought I was alone on this. Appreciate it.
Awesome video. I was on the fence with this camera and feel your pain as far as RF, EF, and EF-S lenses. I’m confident that Canon has already anticipated this and new FF’s are in the works. I’m ordering the RP in the morning. You should be a Canon ambassador. Your unbiased opinion is music to my ears. I’ve watched hundreds of reviews on UA-cam and yours made the biggest impact on my decision to purchase one. Thanks for taking the time to make this video. Keep up the good work. 👏
Thank you! I bought an EOS R shortly after this (I own and use both now) and I plan to do a video about it soon. Your feedback is greatly appreciated, I get insecure about sharing these types of reviews because I'm not a techie guy and I'm not a pro photographer. But I do shoot a LOT and it is a huge part of my business, and I really do feel like all the reviews are too spec-based and don't give me an idea about what it's like to own a piece of gear...
Dude, this is such a cool video... and btw you got 3,4k views and only 4 dislikes... not 37! I've been watching about 40 different videos trying to convince myself what to buy next... Sony A6400, Eos RP or R. But since I am also a product photographer and not a videographer by any means... I really like the focus bracketing feature on this camera which is also not spoken of much. I think this camera is a winner! Thanks for sharing your views on it. ✌🏽
This was exactly the video I needed. Thanks Andrew 🙏🏼
New technology seems to always being challenging us about what to do with the older peripherals. Lenses are so expensive that it is great the Canon has given us compatibility with our old lenses, but it seems to me that the RF system is the future and you should be buying those awsome lenses. Your 5D has started the journey to join that old film camera you showed us. I use Capture One 12. CI recognises the EOS-R but not the RP. At present I am having to use Adobe DNG converter. Thank you for your comments on .jpgs - I think I am going to be using them more as well
upgrading to the RP today. Ive been using my 6D mk i for the last couple years for weddings, portraits and events. at the end of the day the camera is simply a tool for you to use. loved your review on it!!!! im getting the RF to EF adapter so i can use my 70-200 2.8!!! cant wait
Nice. If you're been able to work with a 6D then this will feel like a huge upgrade in terms of the little conveniences (like the flippy touch screen, faster wifi, focus tracking, etc). You probably won't gain any speed with this camera, but the fun factor and convenience factor will go up.
Hi Diter, how's your 1 year experiences with eos RP ?
What about viewfinder, do you prefer EVF or OVF of you old 6D ?
Do you recommend it ?
@@vinvanid hey it's been amazing I've used it for weddings, portraits, real estate and it's handled everything. I like the EVF but i mostly use the LCD screen. I use a battery grip to extend the life of it since i use it for weddings
@@ditermejia6027 Thank you for sharing your experience with it..
Why do you prefer LCD than EVF? Isn't it make the image taken more shaky ?
I wonder why some canon mirrorless user use LCD more than the EVF..
@@vinvanid as long as your shutter speed is above 1/60 you shouldnt have no problem with it. I use the LCD screen because you get a bigger picture and therefore a better view . I've been take a shop by my waist and flip out the LCD screen instead of having to kneel down and look through the viewfinder. It comes down to personal preference
Great great video man... Helped me a lot to confirm my purchase... Waiting for the RP tomorrow!!! I understand you the dilemma with both cameras and EF / RF lenses... but having a Rebel crop sensor is a really good upgrade for me. Thanks again man..!
Did you buy RP, how do you feel about RP, kindly reply
Yes, was also my first thinking... the grain looks like analog film. Its so true. Great that you talked about it. My thinking was I am the only one how see this this way.
I've been loving the RP for a lot of the same reasons you mentioned. The camera just feels right and makes shooting fun.
There’s a lot to be said for the fun factor. I think low key, canon knows this and is keeping it at the front of their designs. Today I feel like everyone is a pixel peeper, but for me the experience and the feel, even the feel of certain “imperfections” is a huge factor in what and how I shoot. Something I want to challenge myself to do is borrow a Sony for long enough to see how fun it is. I’ve only used Sony for short trials and never got comfortable with the menus or controls, but I’m wondering how much of the RP’s fun is from that canon intuition vs having mirrorless capabilities.
Listening to you ramble on for 28 mins.. Just Awesome. Real world talk. Eat the noodles and drink the sauce. Priceless. Well done. 👍 Having ef-s lenses and being able to use on the RP is great.
man... you've confirmed every detail that, after a ton of research, I knew I would love and/or hate If i switched to this camera. Thank you!
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INBODY CROP OUTSTANDING: I could go from a 300mm lens to a 480mm lens at the tip of a finger. This can be applied to any lens that you mount on the RP. I never paid any attention to it until I saw your video. I set up late one night and experiment with a combination of different lenses. With a calculator in hand I figure out different 1.6x Crop combinations, this was awesome. Nothing better to do at 2AM in the morning. (Retired) LOL.
I know some people this camera is now outdated but who cares. Whatever floats your boat. This is an outstanding piece of equipment. Remember whatever lens you have now you have two.
Oh by the way, I have a vertical battery grip that holds two LP-E17 batteries which is a aftermarket unit, it doubles the battery life. (Amazon). Not plugging anything. LOL. 🐢 📷 🐢 📷 🐢 📷
I just got it and I love it, and believe me before buying it i watched maybe 50 videos about it, but no one mention the issue of the CR3, which was a horrible surprise for me, but this said this camera is a huge update for whoever is coming from a crop sensor dslr.
Ermmm... sorry to sound silly but what is this issue with the CR3?
@@SamS-jn6fx Hey Sam no worries, actually the raw format of canon switched from cr2 to cr3 and my version of lightroom did not recognize it, so i had to first convert my fils into dng and then upload them to lightroom so my workflow got longer, but dont worry new version of lightroom recognize immediately now. So no more issues here.
Thanks for doing this video. I recently purchased the EOS RP and have never done a video like this but now I probably will just to compare my experiences of a Canon 5D Mk4 user going to the EOS RP.
Interesting what you said about the CR3 files, if you convert everything to DNG in Lightroom during import the files become universal and you won’t need to shoot raw+JPEG. I always shoot raw+JPEG(medium) so I have the best of both worlds in case I need to quickly send an image to my phone.
Totally agree about keeping the EF lenses and using them with the adapter. I only have one Canon mirrorless body and several Canon DSLR bodies, it doesn’t make sense for me to buy lenses that only work on one body. I’m waiting for a mirrorless body that will equal or surpass the 5D Mk4 and then I’ll start investing in more RF mount bodies and eventually the scales will tip in that direction.
The lack of 24fps is on my list of advantages the EOS R has over the EOS RP:
- EOS R uses the same LP-E6N batteries as my Canon 5D Mk4, EOS RP uses a completely different battery
- EOS R has a max shutter speed of 1/8000 sec, EOS RP has a max shutter speed of 1/4000 sec
- EOS R can use a battery grip, EOS RP doesn't have any battery grip option
- EOS R has USB 3.1 (5Gb/sec), EOS RP has USB 2.0 (480Mb/sec)
- EOS R has 24fps for video, EOS RP does not (unless you shoot cropped 4k)
- EOS R is 30MP, EOS RP is 26MP - not as drastic as some of the other differences but if I'm getting a new camera I'd rather the sensor be equal to or greater than my existing 5D Mk4 bodies.
Your comment just made my brain swell with joy. I love the tech talk, I’m just not focused enough to deliver it on camera 😂
@@andrewdoeshair What about eos R vs RP IQ on Hd 1080p ( now that RP has 24p) ?
Best review yet. Obviously from a guy that’s actually really used the camera. I didn’t know about half it’s features till I watched this. I’m looking to buy one but have been confused by all the negative reviews. I would like to add that I’m sure the battery is the same as the ones in my m5. So hey thanks for that Canon. I don’t need 2 battery systems now. Don’t think anyone mentioned that. My M system has an adapter to use full frame lenses an so I can use them on both systems. Again thanks for the review totally the best I’ve seen on any camera yet. Totally honest opinion. Definitely the camera for me (not its own lens range though as way over my budget) Thanks for the review. 👍
I like the part about the ring being able to adjust a bunch of parameters and the part about the noise being filmy grainy. Thanks a lot.
Great video, I love my RP. As someone new to photography with an interest in wildlife, portrait and astrophotography, this does all I need.
It's important that your viewers understand that your issue with having EF and RF lenses is not the fault of the Canon EOS RP. Your also going to have this issue with the EOS R. Or any Canon mirrorless camera with an RF mount.
Really appreciate this video man. Lots of stuff I haven't heard anywhere else. Great work.
This sold me on the camera more than any video by a "professional" photographer I watched. I know what I'm getting next!
Very helpful review, so natural and transparent talk, loved it watching, Thanks a lot #andrewdoeshair. All the very best, go for 100K.
Regarding the noise feeling like film grain, that's actually a thing in a lot of mirrorless cameras and it's a good thing. It makes the photos look much warmer and filmy instead of glitchy and webcamy.
Apple needs to release an update to support the raw files from the Canon RP. CR3 is not a standard file format... it varies with every camera! For example when I first got my Canon RP, I couldn't use Lightroom for about a month until Adobe released an update for the RP. Hopefully Apple will add support for the RP with macOS Catalina (or sooner).
You can use Adobe DNG converter to convert the CR3 files to DNG. Then they will work on your Mac until Apple releases the next Camera Raw update -- I expect that to happen September 2019.
That’s the appeal of the Fuji cameras and lenses. The RP Is my introduction to FF camera. Not disappointed at all
It was a pleasure to see this review!
Nowadays if a camera isn't called Sony, it doesn't record 4K 240fps or it doesn't have a 500k ISO range or a dynamic range of 25 stops seems not to be able to capture photos.
I found this review very helpful because in addition to the cons you also talked about the pros.. and yes, for those interested in the photo side, this camera is a little beast, in quality and price ratio
So, just ordered it!
You bring up a lot of points that others haven’t mentioned. My RP just arrived, camera only, no lens. And canon’s base model lens adapters are all backordered(!) here in sept 2020. Soooo, maybe i’ll consider the adapter you mentioned that has the control ring. Great review.
RP is out of my price range, I went with the M50 which I think is a great for beginners.
Thanks your opinion on this camera is interesting.
I understand you're stuck between two systems (EF/RF), but I think that buying an EF lens nowadays is a mistake. We are just at the begining of the RF mount. Once they will decide to sell a pro mirrorless camera with dual cards and a decent burst mode, I won't see any benefits of having a DSLR. I think EF mount is dead, the adapter is here only to let people do the transition with their expensive glass.
I only tried the EOS RP for a short amount of time, but I can tell that some big issues I was having on my 5D III instantly disapeared :
- in the viewfinder, you see your real exposure, no need to shoot -> check -> adjust -> reshoot...
- autofocus is much more precise, especially with wide aperture lenses, and easy to use. Joystick selection on 5D is too slow in my opinion. And that eye AF is just perfect, it would have save me tons of wedding pictures. Also I had big issues focusing under colored led lights, the 5D is just lost. I'm certain the RP don't have this issue with dual pixel autofocus
- you can see your real depth of field in the viewfinder, which help having two people in focus for example
try 25 fps dude! you have to switch to PAL video mode from NTSC, but it gets you pretty close to the 24 frames look. Great video btw dude 👍🏻
Also you said you would get 37 thumbs-downs.. you actually have 137 thumbs up!!
Thank you!!!
I liked the video, real life stuff not just specs!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥
I’m barely getting into photography... and looking to buy my first camera. I’m never planning to go pro, so this video has been very informative for my buying experience. I’m definitely going to look at the adapter you use. Thanks!
I hear you on the lens dilemma. The conclusion I’ve come to is the RF mount is the future. It might be simpler to just ditch the SLR bodies completely and go all in on the RF mount. Keep the EF lenses you have and replace them when funds allow. For my film SLR I’ve gone down to just two lenses, the 40mm stm prime and the 50mm stm prime. I generally shoot wider when snapshotting with my film bodies, so that works for me, otherwise, I’m transitioning over to RF for everything.
I actually have the SL2. Just bought the RP as my first foray in the full frame world. I like the fact the RP doesn't have a lot of gimmicks and it's cheap while still full frame. I'm gonna adapt some EF lenses and see what it can do. People talk about poor dynamic range but if people are shooting at poor exposure, they are the problem, not the camera.
The way I see the dynamic range issue, is that there are people who only shoot when they know it'll look good, and they won't pull out the camera in bad lighting or whatever, and then there are people who will shoot everything anyways, try to save it in post. The longer I keep at this, the more I find myself leaving my camera in the bag unless I know I'm going to get a good shot. With crazy dynamic range you can pull detail out of shots in less than ideal lighting. I personally would just rather wait for (or more often, create) good light. In my studio dynamic range isn't an issue, I dial in all the light and it's good. I do understand that there are types of photography where the only option is to have great dynamic range, but I think the RP is still amazing for most photography.
@@andrewdoeshair ahh okay. How are would you say the camera performs in less than ideal light, but exposed to the right? I've been reading and seeing people say the sensor on the RP is much better at pulling detail from the highlights, than pulling detail out of the shadows. A couple UA-camrs even say to expose to the right by one or two stops.
I'm gonna test out the camera for a couple weeks. If it's a bad buy, it gets returned.
Just bought it 😄, had the a6400 and still have the ZV-1. Bought it because I wanted something that actually looks and feels like cameras from my youth. The Sony cameras have better specs, the Canon a better photograph and video experience. In the end video on my Sony is 1080/60.
Can see all my files on my Mac, and have 24fps in 1080, will give that another try after watching your video.
Thanks for sharing.
I just watched this a year after you posted it! Very nice realistic review, I just bought the RP, and I am now seeing the same things you did. I will only buy a few RF lenses and only for the focal lengths where there are major improvements over the EF lenses. RF85 f2 and maybe the future RF 70-200 f4.
I will be getting the control ring adapter
Great review mate. I have the 5DS and 5DM4, but need something smaller as well as a second camera for indoor bad light situations as changing lenses all the time is very frustrating on a shoot. This camera doesnt really fit the bill, but its by far the best deal out there right now for my needs.
The dynamic range and the noise is really not the greatest, but if you can hold off for a few months until the R is even cheaper I think that may be a great fit. I ended up buying the R shortly after this video and the low light performance and dynamic range are phenomenal next to the RP
the idea of using the control ring as a digital zoom to help with manual focus is a fantastic idea, I hope canon is listening to that one!
The only reason I decided to keep my eos m50 instead of upgrading to the eos rp is because they both suck in 4k :( so i was just going to pay for better photos. I'm going to wait until they make a camera that's better for video as i love making videos. Hopefully we can finally get 120 fps at 1080 if they do that i will buy it! I'm a huge supported of mirror less cameras because i care more about portability than anything else. The rf lenses are the future! They're so much better. And there's even an adapter that has an nd filter 😱
I think you’re right about the similarities to the M50... Since I made this clip I’ve been fiddling with the video features a lot more and pretty much feel like it’s not even worth calling a “full frame camera” when it comes to video. I mean there’s the obvious 1.75 crop in 4K but then if you use the digital stabilization you lose like, another .25, so for many video applications you’re not using the full sensor. It’s only a full frame if you’re shooting at 30/60fps on a tripod 😐
Really useful and interesting video. Thank you. I’m buying an RP!
Your comment about this video seems spot on, it was just an easy vid to watch. Should be more videos like this on UA-cam. Cheers mate, very nice and entertaining.
Thanks for your talk - I have seen a lot of videos about RP but I found yours very interesting.
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Thanks for a great, sober yet honest and heartful view of the RP. Managed to change my opinion of the camera. However, I don’t have any hands on experience with it as you do so your opinions count a hellovalot more! Thank you! :)
This review was really refreshing. Good job!
They need a grip but it should take the 5DM3 batteries that would be game changer.
Great upgrade from my M50. 5dm3 for pro work and this for fun / pro work.
Aí man, the preview issue is a easy one to fix. select the photos you want fixed, go to photos, built preview, and choose the resolution of your previews... tada!
This video was very well done. Andrewdoeshair for a non-professional you critiqued the Canon EOS RP to confirm that the camera is worth the purchase. I just purchased the camera and was having second doubts, I'm just picking up photography. I wanted to thank you for the experience you put forth including the information on the lenses.
You will be very happy - Canon will make 24p for 1080p in next fw update like 1 month from now - so you can use DP-AF on 1080p without crop, in 24p ;)
Really? I was getting ready to buy the R just for that!
Ich read this too
I had the RP since it was release and mostly use it as my travel camera and family outings. I agree with all your findings. Never bothered with the extension grip. Whats the point. I only dislike that the IS is always on and very noticeable with my EF L lenses. Love the control ring on my RF 35 F1.8 lens. Hmm never thought about using the CROP option. Will try it.
Hey I enjoyed your video first thing is I'm an owner of a SL2 how did ever since 17 just bought the RP about 2 weeks ago now first full frame but what I want to suggest to you after watching your video just stick with ef lenses because I figured and plan on doing the same thing my SL2 is going to be for my video and my RP for stills so stick with ef lenses can't go wrong that way thanks keep the videos coming or tricks or how to with the RP appreciate it.
Please correct me if I am wrong. But why would you use the In-Camera-Crop to x1.6 if you could reach just the same result when cropping in later? When using the in Camera-Crop you just lose some of the data you could capture.
Sometimes a faster and easier work flow is more important to me than saving the most data possible. If I’m shooting a client (I’m talking about a haircut client, not a photography client) they just want a small jpeg air dropped to them in the next two minutes to post on their instagram, then I lose no necessary data by cropping the sensor. I just get to feeeeel like I’m swapping between a 50mm/85mm or between 85mm/135mm if I want to crop the sensor. It’s all about the feeling of each perceived focal length, and also about quicker work flow, at least whenever it’s not all about max data (which is most of the time, for me). The sensor can also be cropped to 1:1 or 16:9 for photo, which is great for shooting instagram photos and also for grabbing a quick cover photo for UA-cam, again, when maximum convenience outweighs maximum data.
So, over a year later.... What did you decide to do with your lenses? Did you decide to commit to RF or did you go to the EF adapted route? Good video :) Thank you!
A few months ago I sold almost all of my EF lenses and got an RF 70-200 (you can find the review and comparison to an RF 85mm F1.2 that I borrowed, on my channel). Today I only own three lenses- a Sigma 24-35mm F2 Art, a plastic little nifty fifty, and the RF 70-200. I’ve really been enjoying having less lenses and I plan to keep the kit small as I continue to upgrade (dream kit would be the RF 15-35, the rumored upcoming stabilized RF 50mm F1.8, and the RF 70-200)
Thank you so much for this video. As a amateur 7d mark II user who wants to be smaller and more agile on trips and around town but wants good specs for post, this was so insightful. You mentioned a number of things that were not mentioned in any other reviews that are pretty cool, esp the crop sensor trick for getting a higher focal length. Awesome! I wanted to stay canon since I like their system and share lenses with my partner who also has a canon but was really drawn by the 64xx/66xx series Sony’s. This has me really thinking back in the canon camp again.
I wonder if the 4K autofocus is software and might be fixed or improved in an upgraded software update. Thanks again!!
does the latest firmware enable 27fps in 1080p now?
30 frames per second is for adverts commercials and tv shows 24 FPS adds cinematic motion blur amongst other cinematic visuals like depth of field something you would not get really at 30 FPS
That about film look I have noticed on some sample 4k video from that camera. In some weird way (probably intentionally) image out of this resemble film look like nothing else I have seen before.
Grate thoughts and points. I totally feel you about that lens dilemma. RF feels like trap at this point. Probably best to wait and see how things gonna be in the future for that system. It feels like very smart to stay with EF for time being. Cheers and big thumbs up!
Well that's a REAL-out of the box review! Keep that way up!
Great video, loved the pasta analogy! I understand your dilemma about the different lenses. I have sold my DSLRs, and most of my EF lenses, with exception of a 135. I do not like the adapting, so I will be purchasing all RF lenses. I started with the 24-105 (which I love) and I will be adding the 50 1.2 for more portrait oriented stuff. Might be a little expensive initially, but selling the older stuff will help.
Hi Daniel ur 24-105 RF lens is it good for portrait at 105 f4 as I m thinking to get RP with this lens and looking to use for all purpose until any cheap RF 85mm comes out. Your reply would be highly appreciated. Thanks
I recently got that lens and I would say it’s very much worth the money. It sits between good and great as far as sharpness, the AF is lightning fast and is silent, stabilization is remarkable. If you go to my Instagram (@andrewdoeshair) and look for the photo set of a woman with a painted face, that whole set was shot with the RF 24-105mm... You won’t get gnarly bokeh, but for weight, convenience, video, basically everything but low light and mega shallow depth of field, it’s a killer lens.
no one's talking about the nice sl2 video quality. i wouldnt have known it was an sl2 until you mentioned it 😎
thanks for the effort and the sharing. i imagine someone will be clever enough to create an rf->ef lens adapter rather than the current ef->rf offering by canon. it is now 4.5 months since you posted this vid. your current thoughts on the rp? thumbs up.
EOS RP is interesting, but a choice of RF lenses is ridiculously small and they are very expensive.
Cropping in post is not the same of using a crop camera mainly because in crop you keep all pixels at the croped image.
Loved the video! Thank you.
Oh, and by the way, now you have 24fps in 1080 🤪😀
Hello
I have to choose between the RP with the 24-105 RF kit lens and 5Dmk3 with 24-105 EF. What should i choose for event photos and daily workhorse (not doing videography)?
In my experience, the 5Diii will feel more robust, a lot tougher, and if I need to grab a shot in a split second it’s much faster to configure and focus. There’s also the weather sealed aspect to it that’s nice. However, the RP has so many bells and whistles that the 5D doesn’t, bells and whistles I never needed before but can’t live without now. Like WiFi, touch screen, usb charging, etc. If I’m shooting in a clean controlled environment where I can take my time then RP all day, but if I were shooting in a dirty or rainy scenario I’d prefer the 5Diii... Also, though, I’d consider the future- the 5Diii aged beautifully for years but is now becoming a classic relic. With the RP you’ll be a little more future proof. Oh yeah, lastly, the RF glass is beautiful. I’ve owned the EF 24-105 and I own the RF 24-105 now, and the RF is way nicer. I never checked side by side but the RF feels considerably lighter, the focus is instant and silent, and the stabilization is silent.
Canon could make the spacer backwards compatible to allow RF lenses to work on EF mounts. Maybe an extra lens like in the speed booster could make it work.
Very nice review very real thanks for all the key points I want one I don't have no Canon glass so I wouldn't care about EF or r mont mount
I am using this camera since one month and I am quite happy with the results. I shoot stills so for me this camera is quite good.
You can set alto convert to DNG when input to Lr, u won’t loss quality, Lr deal with DNG faster and Mac can see it.
I went to look at a Z6 but tried out a R and RP as well - I really liked the RP - I notice your into hair - that's what I film - you just popped up on my YT. 😎👌
PS - here in PAL land we get 25fps on it - how daft are Canon.
Nice, I’ve just subscribed. It looks like many of your clients are actually friends of mine! I do a lot of work in Dublin (see Sam’s Barbers in dame court or along the Liffey near the ha’penny). Next time I’m out there we should grab a creamy dreamy pint and nerd out on camera talk
I really enjoyed your view. Thanks for sharing. Congrats on 17k views.
Great commentary - can’t wait for better nikon and canon mirrorless bodies!
24p video is in the new firmware for full HD!
I ended up also buying an EOS R and planned on the RP collecting some dust, but since that update I’ve been using both cameras regularly. I think canon deserves some applause for the firmware updates, but also I can’t believe they were ever shipping cameras with that original firmware- they were OKAY but compared to the update it’s a completely different camera. I feel like their mirrorless cameras would’ve gotten a much different response from consumers if they got the firmware right from the start
lol, sony has been rocking 3 dials forever. canon decides to put one on the adapter or lens. i am intrigued in this RP though just because of the colors.
I'm not one of those Canon guys who hates Sony, I think they're great. the only reason I haven't switched is that I'm soooo deeply invested in Canon glass, and am genuinely curious about Canon's future-- they (seem to) keep things simpler and more user friendly, and that's actually also why I give way too much money to Apple, as well. I'm not a spec nerd pixel peeper kind of guy, I just want something fun and intuitive-- in fact if I can have some control removed so I don't get analysis paralysis, that's even better. My friends who use Sony get soooo much more into detail than I do, and it could just be a culture thing that Sony attracts more of those kinds of shooters, but canon somehow has made me believe that good enough is good enough, and there's a weird kind of freedom there (laughing emoji here)
'you'd never see me again' XD hi five for that one :D
Appreciate your honest review! Cheers
Just buy the EOS R or what for whatever Pro Digital camera body Canon plans on drop hopefully soon. (The R to replace your 5D).
Thank you, great advice. As soon as Canon announces a “pro mirrorless” I’m selling all of these and getting that. The reason I was so interested in the RP and finding the good in it, is that my followers and students (see @Andrewdoeshair on Instagram) are barbers and hairstylists who dabble in photography- not professional photographers). I wanted to see if the “cheap full frame” was worth recommending for haircut portraits. But the points I made here ended up being less “hair portrait” focused than I had originally intended 🤷♂️
andrewdoeshair I agree, I just recently gotten into photography. I got a T6i for a steak and that was 2 years ago. Just got the EOS RP a couple months ago. So for I’m loving it. I’m a complete amateur big you can see some of the imagines I captured @bigwyrmmm on Instagram. I’m not into shooting video and that was the main reason I got it over the R. Great video keep up the work you’ve earned my loyalty.
Hi I'm so glad you have the SL2 and the RP! I'm looking to upgrade from the SL2 (it's the best camera I've personally owned and used) my upgrades so far have been small and mediocre (t5-t6-sl2) so now I'm hoping my next upgrade to actually be a larger difference and hopefully wow me but also still be affordable. I'm now looking at an RP would be my first fullframe and first mirrorless. Since you own both can you please tell me if there's a noticeable quality difference and if this upgrade will wow me? Video isn't important for me right now in a professional aspect only take personal family videos.
Where you'll really (and immediately) see a difference is at the low end of your aperture. If you're used to using a 50mm F1.8 on your crop sensor cameras, it'll feel way wider on the RP, but you won't lose any subject isolation to get this wider look, as compared to putting a 35mm on a crop sensor for a similar field of view. When you shoot at like, 85mm F1.8 or F1.4 on a full frame you'll get a similar field of view as a 50mm on your crop sensor, but you'll get a depth of field that is impossible to achieve with a 50mm on a crop sensor. So it's those 1.2, 1.4, and 1.8 areas on any lens where you'll start getting looks in your images that you couldn't before. If you use an 85mm at F2.8 on a full frame you'll get a similar look to 50mm F1.8 on a crop sensor. So if you make this upgrade, you'll notice it immediately when you're shooting wide open. If you've been shooting at F4 or higher anyways, you likely won't see a massive difference.
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Thank you so much for responding! I do have the ef 50mm 1.8 and a 24mm 2.8 efs but I'm thinking I'll probably want to replace those with 85mm and a 35mm
@@victoriajohnson2122 35 and 85 are sooo nice together! Look into the Tamron 35mm F1.8 if you plan on keeping the crop sensor for a second camera and want something stabilized for video-- same specs as the RF 35 (stabilized F1.8) but you'll still be able to use it with your EF cameras. Actually this video was done with said Tamron on an SL2... 85mm can be very hard to shop for, since they all seem to be lacking in some area. I first owned a Rokinon 85mm F1.2 and I loved it- optically it was very impressive (although it had a strong green tint) but the lack of auto focus had me eventually move to Canon's 85mm F1.2L ii, which had severe color fringing issues and slowwwwww auto focus, so I recently switched to a Sigma 85mm Art, and while it's super duper sharp with quick auto focus, the out of focus areas are sort of ugly (I have a video about it, see "questions for sigma owners" on my channel). Lately I've been contemplating Canon's newer 85mm F1.4L because it's stabilized, or Tamron's 85mm F1.8 for the same reason (and to save a buck). But ultimately it's a really fun challenge and pursuit to find the gear that works best for ya :)
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I'm planning to sell my crop at the moment not sure what camera I'll want as a back up or if this rp will some day become the backup. I was thinking about getting the RF 35mm have you used it? Oh no that's sad news for the 85mm.. the RF 85 options are very expensive but I know most people say it's best to stay native so if I can afford any that'll be my plan.
I bought the grip with it 😊 ef adapter was included the camera 😊 did you upgrade the firmware to 1.3?
This is what I wanted to see and hear, from someone like me.
Great vid. Still stuck with the first world problem of getting the RP or shelling out for the R. I think the R will fix your noise issue. But can't see much else lol
Southern Charity even at iso 12500 my R doesn’t have too much noise, I love it
I want an eos RP but not small! Don't know why entry level camera means a small camera :/ like X-T30 Fuji. I need a cheaper camera with decent bodyt size. THis RP is the most affordable modern FF mirrorless, but the limitation from the factory are so dissapointing, just marketing with damage final customers. They can do it but they don't do it and you get an "halved" camera body not only for the size, but expecially for the functions. Firmware solved banding problem when increasing exposure even at base ISO? (dustin abbott video)
Ordered one from Adorama. They refused to inform me that the EF eos r adapter is on backorder so I guess I’ll just be staring at my camera and lens until I can actually use it.
Hey, thanks for the review. Do you know if there is a way to map the in body crop to some button so that you can switch back and forth quickly?
I don’t thiiiink a single button can do it, but I have it saved on the custom menu so that I can do it in 2 or three button presses. I would love it if I could do it with one button
@@andrewdoeshair Thanks!
Wow, exactly 37 thumbs down! But way more views than you expected. Nice review, I agree with many of your points.
I hated on this camera when it first came out my experience with the af was horrriibbbllllleeeeee. After the update its like a whole new camera and i must have it back in my life lol. About to drop my a7rii for it.
Download an NTFS file reader app to your Mac and it will allow your Mac to open raw files. That’s what I have with mine and it opens cr3 files from my R perfectly fine!
so all EF full frame canon lenses work with an adapter?
Yes. And EF-S
But how does the EF lens work on the RP ? Because the R lenses are expensive as hell
They work perfectly, the only downside is that your lens get longer with the adapter, compared to a native RF lens. I'm waiting for tamron and sigma to give us affordable RF lenses :-D
What's already been mentioned here-- absolutely perfect adaptation. I did have a small issue with a Tamron lens giving me a weird circle, but I discovered that it was some kind of distortion correction setting that was glitchy
I am such a Canon fan but every EOS RP review just discourages me as a videographer. All reviews claim this is not a videographers dream camera. I do not wanna change to SONY or FujiFilm... noooo