Is the Alpha Legion actually Loyalist? | Warhammer 40k Lore
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FOOL THE ALPHA LEGION ARE ON ALL SIDES!!! WE ARE ALL ALPHARIUS!!!
Balls
PLEASE! Bring back Timmy! I love the abuse!
Hey fuck head, ordered all 4 of your models, how you feel about the Chaos champion 40k and terminator being done as Death Guard? and what you want to see the Chaplin as?
the alpha legion is hard, they have TWO primarchs. (holds up three fingers like a true alpha legionaire)
it's my head cannon that Alpharius had brilliant hair but he shaved it to blend into traitors
loyalty requires sacrifice.
Growing up with Emps means Alpharius would probably have access to Emps's shampoo cabinet
Vulkan,Sigismumd, Nathaniel Garro, Constantin Valdor,Gabriel Seth,Pedro Kantor, Helbrecht, Tyberos
Hair cannon*
No he still has brilliant hair, he just wears a bald cap to deceive the traitors
"Everything I told you is true" "Even the lies?" "Especially the lies"
Garak from DS9. Also Alpharius.
Nice DS9 reference
Ah, I see you are a man of culture as well.
"Truth is usually just a lack of imagination." ... also Garak", Alpharius
Plain and Simple Garak.
Ya gotta say the whole thing, like A Pimp Named Slickback.
Alpharius is on the golden throne and Omegon is actually the Emperor with amnesia
No god no I can’t… I can’t even imagine how… ho- *head explodes*
Oh fuck. This is my new headcanon
So...Big E wasting away again in Oil Margaritaville while he got a thronesitter?
Those sacrificial psyk kids gonna be super disappointed when they discover Galaxy Elvis is an impersonator
That would be one HELL of a plot twist.
So Guilliman was talking to his brother... Lol.
At first I thought that Tzeench, the lord of scheme and foreshadowing would find out about Alpharion secretly helping the Imperial and try to sabotage it. But then i realize Tzeench himself would be so impressed by this scheme that he would let it play out
3 out of 2 Tzeentches do not disapprove of the alpha legion, in a negative way.
@@samueltrusik3251 What?
@@asdf-ne1vt exactly my friend, exactly.
better yet, tzeentch caused them to turn loyalist.
@@asdf-ne1vt yes
To quote Russ: “Yes…no… and everything inbetween”
*random dark eldar having a mental breakdown*
Big fan of this quote. 😈
slanesh:yes,yes,yes! come on damm it come on! just last longer and the dark eldar are...nonononono what are you doing!? you son of a biiiiiiiiiiiiii-
*slanesh is not in materium*
@@Bellephus
Leman russ:sleeps
Random dark eldar:"alive"
Alpha Legion: Are we Loyalist or a traitor legion?
Another Alpha Legion: YES
You mean alpha legionnaires?
You mean Alpharius and Alpharius?
Correct.
"It's easy battlebrother. Those who stick with Alpharius are loyal and those sticking with Omegon aint." "Okay. And to whom do we belong again?" "That's for me to know and you to find out."
More like "Blam! Blam!" just in case.
It is simple we of the Alpha Legion clearly serve [Redacted] is that not clear from our actions during the [Redacted] campaign when we assaulted the forces of the [Redacted] and slew their leader.
That felt like reading an SCP article.
@@sirbaconbuster Warning, the following file contains memetic kill agents. Authorization?
If you ignore [Redacted] monologue where they explain the whole [Redacted]
Don't forget the part where [Redacted] decides to [Redacted], ultimately deciding the fate of [Redacted] proving they're allegiance to [Redacted]
Oh I see now,it was very clear no idea how I missed it
"Alpharius told Omegon to attack Alpha legion, Omegon did this with name Alpharius"
I bet they pull this crap with their girlfriends too.
ez 4 sum is ez
Why would they have a girlfriend if they can’t use there penis
@@19kp. They're primarchs, not space marines. All their bits work and with both Alpharius and Omegon being tiny by usual primarch standarts, the size of their weapon might not even be a problem.
@@19kp. also pretty sure they said Space Wolves space marines sleep with women. Space Marines just can't have kids.
Thanks for the insight
If they are loyal it’s a testament to their skill that they haven’t been discovered by the other Chaos Legions, especially when Lords of Change and Keeper of Secrets are dipping into reality constantly like they’re having multiple sleepovers back to back.
That reminds me of Roboutian Heresy Alpha Legion who successfully infiltrated Chaos Legions and weren't found out
@@rexlumontad5644 wait what when did that happen? That sounds cool
Well unless we count the 3 chaos lord from inquisitor martyr video game because one of them was a alpha legion chaos lord taking part in a meeting with a word bearer and black legion chaos Lord's
The Alpha Legion was loyal-ish during the Heresy
By present day they are all Chaos worshippers
@@christiandauz3742 not all chaos
The yellow king book: Alpharius is with Valdor
Me: so you mean The OG Alpharius or Omegon as Alpharius??
The author: Yes.
If I am correct real alpharius is dead like really dead and omegon is the only one alive but knowing gw they'll pull strings
@@augustuslunasol10thapostle was that Alpharius tho?
@@themediocremaster2388 I think it was Omegon with Alpharius name
@@themediocremaster2388 are you alpharius?
@@augustuslunasol10thapostle if we think about it, wasn’t the real Alpharius the friends we executed as heretics along the way?
The answer is simple: Yes
You are right but also wrong
"Simple" and "Alpha legion" Don't go together
The simple answer?
...where's the fun in that?
@@owaissaeed5935 you are wrong but also right
You may be right .. but may be wrong ..
"Only a Sith deals in absolutes"
-Sun Tzu, The Art of War
That is an absolute.
@@thelordz33 “sometimes a sith deals in absolutes”
Legit rofl'd
@@thelordz33 There is a UA-cam video that explained why its actually not an absolute
"those who are not with me are against me" - jesus. Does this mean jesus was a sith lord?
I painted an entire army of Alpha Legion with every single model a different Chapter/Legion.
Therefore, they are all Loyalists.
This right here, is peak genius
Oh that's how I painted my Alpha Legionnaires. Basically like a reverse Deathwatch. Also painted some as Ultramarines except with the symbol turned around as the Omega symbol.
@@Autechltd there are Omegamarines that already use the symbol you describe.
the rabbit hole goes so much deep now
Great content. An alpha legionaire would be a great main character for a 40k rpg in a video game.They are extremely adaptable and the confusion over their loyalty easily allows for alignment choice to be open.
That actually sounds really fucking awesome, I'd play the shit out of an Alpha Legion videogame.
lmao you actually predicted the origin of the primarchs of the alpha legion
Take that Simple-MindedSyndicate
Hmm what?
@PJ Rivera already did, but since it's brain spaghetti gonna take some time understanding it
wait what? its there a new book that i miss out or something?
@@toobig7150 He guessed that something like this would be the case in a previous video.
I think you'd look a lot less awkward if you were using a treadmill whilst commentating the video, keep up your fitness at the same time as creating content, I'm a genius eh?
Also have to add that he should also wear a banana suit. To boost his confidence, yes....
I am still waiting for the train like a Custodes video :P
This needs to happen
Presentation is all about establishing dominance, beginn the video by wanking while staring dead pan at the camera and whisper "This is for you..."
That will stop the audience from complaining.
If he was smoking crack in the video it would show he isn't a total awkward nerd and knows how to party
I think they are both alive tbh.
I think Rogal killed a normal (but very skilled) Astartes.
I think they both have a massive part to play.
Alpha (beginning)
Omegon (end).
or alpharius initiated the plan hence alpha=beginning and he died and passed the plan to omegon hence omega=end.
The author confirmed he did actually die.
@@Kogdude you have ruined my fun with your cruel words brother.
@@Kogdude Author cannot be trusted, for all we know he might be Alpharius or Omegon
@@Kogdude or did he? Thats what they want you to believe, or do they, its all part of the grand scheme, at least thats what they want you to believe
Wouldn’t Alpharius’ “plain” power armor be master crafted? Something can still be of the highest quality with out looking like the third legion primary humped it for an hour.
It would still likely be RIDICULOUSLY good, yes.
Timmy has been... Repurposed.
His perspectives... Shifted in another direction.
Theyre both bald and I've been watching this channel long enough to know that hair loss is the only reason a primarch needs to go traitor. Fight me
Isn't vulkan bald though?
Vulkan would like to hug you.
Dont see magnus much of a bald guy. He even has horns on his forehead, he has the most adorned head in the galaxy.
Fulgrim was using a wig??
@@midamulti-tool
Invisible hair.
So, every time someone has used the meme “I am Alpharius”, they have really been saying “I am Alpharius... maybe?”
Personal head-canon: In the moment of his death, Alpharius split his soul through the geneseeds of his sons. As a result he sometimes manifests himself to an extent. Hence when they say I AM ALPHARIUS, they mean it.
@@CommanderBohn well you're pretty close but the way they do it is I believe they inject a portion of their Primarch's blood into them and the reaction with the blood causes them to genuinely believe they are alpharius. Though it's not permanent and the effect wears off over time
>he doesn’t know that every post was actually Alpharius (Omegon) ((Alpharius))
I am Alpharion!
@@ironduke5058 Or Alpharius manipulated them into that behaviour so his life would be easier.
Definitely love the concept of the Primarch being loyal and the legion having no fucking idea about it.
It's such a good topic to just speculate on, made all the better by the actual lore that gets revealed being even more bizarre than the shit my friend and I came up with while on a shitton of mushrooms
Lol that actually sounds like Kain in Legacy of Kain. He's a good guy, but literally all his spawn aren't and think he's Literally Hitler and much worse than they are.
The history of alpharios is like playing 5d chess, 3d sudoku and jigsaw puzzle at the same time
That is a good description 👌
No lies detected.
Paradox billiards roulette chess hypercube strip poker.
👌
All sudoku is 3D.
I think Alpharius was killed by Dorn because when the Big E & Malkador where simulating what would happen "IF" some of the Primarchs were to turn traitor, he was most disappointed in Alpharius for turning traitor.
Heh, frankly It could definitly be Omegon acting as Alpharius, since both Primarch are 98% of the time consider the same person even if both Big E and Malcador knows better.
It could also be that they simply turned traitor officially which is already disapointing enough especially from the infiltrators and Sabotage expert of the Imperium that are supposed to be even more loyal than the average guy due to their jobs etc...
Nothing is sure about the Alpha Legion, except that Dorn according to the author, did kill one of the Twins, and that their loyalty are more confusing than Tzeentch on an annual Chaos gods reunion
Alpha Legion: "Well, yes but actually no."
But, yes at the same time
Shhhhhh your distracting them from figuring out which side their on
@@Maligust_ perfect
Alpha legion has been my favourite ever since reading the "Legion" novel. Their lore is just so cool
Yeah same. When they rise up out of the sand and some of the other cool shit they do in that book.
Definitely one of the most unique legions
Which book is that? I am getting into the Alpha Legion and just finished Head if the Hydra
@@mrsmeef537 book 7 in the Horus heresy series. Here's a link to the black library page: www.blacklibrary.com/all-products/legion-ebook.html
@@ALDS-zk9ko thank ya my dude
the thing with Alpha Legionnaires is their lack of special "traits" eg. space wolves' instincts, ultramarines' tactical acumen, thousand sons' psychic prowess, etc, , well, aside from being common infiltrators, saboteurs and spies. they are highly adaptable true, but as they say, they're the jack of all trades, master of none.
The real Alpha Legion alliances are the Omegrons we meet along the way
I think that the alpha legion split into cells, some loyal and others traitors. Kinda like shield and hydra from marvel
That would be pretty cool
Makes sense. AL should get their own codex that lets you ally with chaos or imperium.
@@UrbanArmada Would be funny if you can just bring normal space marins but mark them on the downside of the base so the enemy don't know what your units carry or with one is a hero
MAJORLEGEND WITH AN ALPHA LEGION VIDEO ON HIS UPGRADED SET!!!! Support this man immediately!
I don't feel any awkwardness from this at all, it's a great format and he feels confident
My read on the 'which one died' issue is like yours Major. It all makes sense once you realise every time Omegon is seen or mentioned in the books that is actually the original Alpharius doing Loyalist things. It's kind of the Venom Snake/Big Boss thing in the end.
10:38 Minor mistake, the Night Lords didn't go to the Eye of Terror either
They stayed on Tsagualsa until assassination of Curze
@@PZ12354 Yea but they completly fractured most of them still hate Chaos tho so only a few of them wnt to the Eye proably no more than some of the Alpha Legion sects
@@thevgshow2723 even before heresy they didn't have much love for psykers
If you are taking suggestions, I think you should get a chair. Seeying you standing still while talking feels a bit awkward for some reason.
Yes, it does.
It really really bothers me
He might be tired standing
I don't want him to stress those legs.
Agreed, but at the same time standing is quite healthy!
“It’s just a prank bro.” - Alpharius
Your next video should be " is the alpha legion real?"
And the video after that should be “Is the Alpha legion the Alpha Legion?”
@@Rogue.Rainbow XD
@@Bmac1027 and Last Video:
Am im Alpharius?
@@sergeantsharkseant and the video after that: are we alpharius?
"Traitor? No. To be a traitor implies that I have betrayed an alliance I once held. My convictions have been the same since our paths crossed, you are just now finding out what they are." - Alpha Legionaire (probably)
Dude, Major on Adeptus Ridiculous would be sick!
I agree, Bricky and DK with Majorkill would be sick.
Ngl I died of laughter when you put the bag on
Yes.
Last time I was this early for a Majorkill video, their loyalty wasn’t in question.
"I am Alpharius" made me chuckeld
Majorkill, have you thought about making a Miriael Sabathiel mini to run alongside the Daemons of Slaanesh?
Live presentation/presentation while the camera is staring at you is an entirely different beast than voice only recording. Staring fixedly at one point will come off robotic, especially if the screen you're reading from is past a certain distance from the camera. You can try moving while presenting or switching between screen locations you're reading from or even switching cameras/camera angles.
I fully support doing something new, so please take the suggestions as one dude's opinions on how to make something cool slightly better/smoother. If you were talking to someone who was constantly looking at your forehead or ear and never making direct eye contact but never looking away, and they didn't move, it would give off the impression they were barely containing the urge to cannibalize your fleshy bits and consume your power right there and then.
A lot of maybe and possibly, who knows there might be another brother called Deltarion, with all the crap these to keep mixed up
If you’re taking suggestions, you should sway side to side more and tape your hands to your side
You know, I really dig the Alpha Legion, really for no other reason, then I'm super fond of their nice teal armor color. Very relaxing.
id love a 3-way collab between bricky that podcast channel and major i would think that would pretty sick
I would love to see you on Adeptus Ridiculus but Bricky is scared of the Alpha Legion
(Ok but who wouldnt)
I would bet that the OG Marines born of Terra stayed loyal with Alpharius raised on Terra. While the rest recruited from their adoptive(Omegons) home-world turned traitor. It would explain why only minority of the legion stayed loyal with Alpharius.
The answer is simple: I am Alpharius.
I'm Alpharius
Who's Alpharius?
What's Alpharius?
Why is Alpharius?
How's Alpharius?
id really like to see a adeptus ridiculous and majorkill collab
Everyone:
“I am Alpharius”
No *I* am Alpharius.
NO I AM ALPHARIUS!
Surely I am alpharius?
“I am Alpharius”
-Omegon *Snickering*
You are all Alpharius.
Now I'm convinced the Alpha Legion guy following Eisenhorn is the real Alpharius.
Major i've been with ya since 10k subs, and i gotta be honest, seeing you speak while standing up feels like watching an awkward professor on his first day, for the love of the emperor please get a chair
Or a throne
Actually tho, MajorKill's face is like that one friend we have that lives in a trailerpark but is actually really cool
Ah that old movie from the 70s, The Town that dreaded the Snarky Aussie"
I fucking love this channel, please don't let gamesworkshop disappear you one day.
The quality has really gone up a notch!
I now know I need a crossover between Major and Adeptus Ridiculous
Every time Alpha Legion makes a move, Tzeentch squids his pants.
fun fact: allthough he has a bag over his head, he has no pants on.
The Hydra has 3 heads and they regrow.
If a thief wants to hide something, he let you find another.
We've infiltrated ourselves! - Every Alpha legionnaire
Alpharius/Omegon is doing what the emperor did before the unification wars. Stay in the shadow and manipulate the events.
I till think there is no Alpharius. Both of them are Omegon but the first found Omegon knows he needs to assume a cover identity so he names himself Alpharius and his legion the alpha Legion.
Oh jeez I think someone needs to look into this dude's family, because if he's got an American grandad then we got our Zodiac killer.
After watching at least 3 short videos on this, I reckon Alpharius' unique primarch power was genetic manipulation, and effectively the ability to clone himself. This was obviously kept super secret because the ability to make more primarchs is kinda OP. So the original Alpharius basically clones himself and this is Omegon. What goes pear-shaped is that while Alpharius falls to chaos, his clone does not, so when the Alpha Legion go traitor and Alpharius Mk 1 dies, Omegon is left to try and figure out how to keep his legion working for the Imperium without giving the game away. The other people claiming to be Alpharius are in fact additional clones - however to avoid a load of actual primarchs running about in the lore, let's say because he didn't have access to the full technology required, Omegon's clones aren't quite perfect so are more just demi-primarchs. However this is how he ensures his cabal of closest marines are loyalist - because they're all clones of him. He's basically the Nick Fury of the 41st Millennium.
Hahahah! I literally just watched Big E meets all his boys, and you mentioned dreading the making of this video. Let's watch!
Intro 🖤👌💪💪
Also, I was really debating which army to finally dig into 40k with and due to your amazing model, I'm going for chaos baby! You made that choice real easy for me. Even if I did buy it before the price drop :p
there was a solid minute during this video that my brain just when flatline
Alpharius is the most loyal of all the primarchs, he is the one who never sought glory and did his duty regardless of the thoughts and perceptions of others. He serves still.
Fucking thank you. He is so much like the lion it hurts
Love this topic and Chaplain is one serious winner mini. Well done.
Given that alpharius was short, couldn't the unknown primarch have been some highly competent legionary In disguise?
Only problem is he had the big energy released light show that happens when a primarch dies. So it was most likely one of the twins
"The Alpha Legion have split up into several different warbands"...or did they?...
Ahhh shit. I never thought of alpha legion showing dorn the weakness of the defens. Makes so much sense if alpharius started the blood games
"...preferably without adblock..." HOW DOES HE KNOW?!?
The Alpha Legion have always been the absolute coolest marines, from either side
*Bruh i forgot what side i was on*
-Alpha legionare
After doing what I imagine is a similar amount of reading on the subject I've come to the same conclusion to you as to which of the brothers was the loyalist. I thought the latest book was absolutely brilliant.
Dude so much more natural keep it up
6:00 my brain is currently seizing and smoke is coming from my ears whilst listening to this.
Yooo majorkill and adeptus ridiculous collab would be Legendary
I just have to thank you for this video man. I'm more of the uh, lore-liking Warhammer 40K fan and I'm relatively new and the questions of the Alpha Legion has always been very daunting to answer since a lot of veteran fans refuse to speak about it because I AM ALPHARIUS. Thanks man.
Oh, and to answer your question.
Alpharius's body died to Dorn, but his mind was basically copied over into a legionnaire, who slowly physically became Alpharius. Basically Warhammer has a mantling ability. Omegon felt Alpharius's body die, but wasn't aware of the mind thing. So he officially took up the name Alpharius, making a lie become the truth. Alpharius didn't believe in the Imperium, the Emperor himself said that. "Alpharius, what chance did you even give my dream?" Or words to that effect. Omegon is loyalist, but spurned by Alpharius's death, he goes renegade, which is to say, he basically doesn't change anything. Over time, the two Alpha Legion forces diverge. The one run by Omegon tends to still act how they used to. The one run by Alpharius is less talked about. Over the course of 10000 years, a few legionnaires have fallen to Chaos, but they are still generally not followers. The biggest problem for the Alpha Legion is that they are fractured, most stories tend to follow a squad or warband who have basically been left behind somewhere, trying to figure out what they are supposed to do next. I believe it was the book Sons Of The Hydra, which set up a squad, being stuck on a planet (with no way off) as actually moving the plot forward, as they interact with a living saint, and find a psychic beacon of plot relevance in a person, and they ride off into the sunset. I'm sure it'll come up again someday. All according to plan.
Edit for more words:
Omegon is the loyalist, as in book three of the Horus Heresy series (Legion) when they were getting mind ra-
When the Eldar were asking VERY POLITELY it was Omegon who said "the Alpha Legion has always been loyal to the Imperium", while Alpharius just screamed.
The Answer: Yes
I also left a similar comment about swaying and hands, but G#d Danmmit Major, you made me bust out laughing with this opening......lmao
This is why I love your channel. Big props to you, major.
Shit's more confusing than someone trying to explain Kingdom Hearts storyline.
that intro :') earned a like just from that alone
„Well no, but actually yes“
But also no.
But also yes
Lool that intro! ur the biggest Warhammer troll but the best at the same time
What I has been thinking could be happening is; literally everything!. Factionalism, they have broken internally, some following the "original secret orders" from alpharius, others are following the "new secret orders" from Omegon and other large factions have broken off, misinterpreted orders or splintered completely, constantly fighting secret infiltration wars against everybody for their own overarching goals, others have fully fallen as independant chaos warbands..
Make Timmy into a servator then his punishment will never end.
Give us a majorkill orc mini already. Choaz and pansi knife-ears look good with skulls but what about the green space-cavemen?
I think the alpha legion is actually loyalist because them being traitor the whole time would be the boring answer
I'm really impressed and convinced by your way of understanding and explaining the lore. I think you did a pretty good and solid job
I hope Shy, DK, and Bricky reach out to you about an Adept episode
That stylized A in their emblem does not mean Alpha Legion. It actually means they have Aspirins for those that try to unravel one of their convoluted plots, making them the most considerate legion.
im pretty sure omegon pretended to be alpharius to join the legion to horus, but when alpharius found out what was happening he just took up the name omegon to make a section of the alpha legion stay loyalist, give an alternative, because of course he cant just walk up to horus and the emperor and go like "yeah that was my twin brother almost no one actually knows about" ... so i think he just adapted and did what he did best, subterfuge, and since the loyalists know the alpha legion is traitor, they would not sit down and listen to this outlandish explanation that it was actually the twin so he tries to support the imperium from the shadows indirectly
I think a small part is loyal still especially with the news of alpharius being the first to be found and so early
Now can you do a video on the guardsman who stood against Horus!
The imperial guard needs some love to!
The Adeptus Ridiculous collaboration would be awesome. Make it Happen!
I have a question since alpharius and omegon are twin so there power and soul is kinda divided by two if they were reunited in one body wouldn’t it make them powered af, like the strongest primarch ?
My teory is that Dorn never killed Alpharius, but the two staged everything to coordinate the defence of Terra. With "Alpharius" in hiding even to his own twin, the "first primarch" could retake the control of his legion in a later date.
I concord on the hypothesis of the 3th way but i don't think someone like him will ever try to fight directly against a superior fighter, like his brothers, at least without an exit strategy 🤔.