Range Rover L322 TDV8 oil change (suction method)
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- Опубліковано 6 бер 2019
- Finally doing an oil change after owning the car for about 4 months...
Usually I’d do this straight away, but with the service book claiming it had only been done 2k miles ago I decided to leave it. Not completely sure I believe everything I’ve read now, but glad it’s done! 👍
You must remove the oil filler cap while the pump is operating or a partial vacuum forms that makes the oil flow very slowly
Love your videos, I can sit front of the computer for whole day and watch oil change video. 😂😂😂👌👌👌
To speed up the pumped oil change, get the engine fully hot and reduce the required lift by locating the old oil canister on the floor. Once you get the pipes filled, the siphon effect then aids the pump's action. Cars will vary but the Mercedessource channel showed that even draining oil through the sump plug leaves oil behind and the was nothing in it between the two approaches. By the way - if your battery can't supply 5 amps for less than an hr without going flat - you need a new battery :)
Rhian Taylor
Yeah, funnily enough (since being a bit of a Merc fan) I’ve seen a few of his videos & just saw the oil extraction one thanks 👍
Also, I can do the maths on the battery... 😂 but it just felt like had been running for ages (& it had - it probably ran over 4hrs in the end) but, yeah the battery was completely fine 😀
trouble with the suction method is that you will never get any sludge out of the sump - which is likely to occur if neglected oil changes....always drain oil out the sump when warm as it will take some of the crap out with it...get you sump bungs replaced ready for your next oil change....
Karen S
Totally agree. This was just a ‘quick fix’ really to get some fresh oil in & avoid a problem on the driveway (car is in use every day) 👍
With the turbos this engine has got, regular oil service is an absolute must. I never exceed 15000 km intervals.
A vise-grip is plenty good to get that old plug out. When you suck it out, you never get the flow that will bring the contaminations that may be present at the bottom of the sump. And those are the very ones that is eventually going to clog your pickup.
I usually buy my service kits from British Parts. Then I get an air-filter, pollen filter, fuel filter, oil filter and a new oil plug.
But sure: The suction method is 100 times better than no oil change!
The oil should be extracted when hot which will circulate all the nasty particles ( which should not be there if the oil and filter are changed regularly ) LR main dealers use the extraction method which they claim the extraction pipe goes lower than the drain plug. The Discovery 4 has a dedicated drain tube. You are dead right the extraction method is better than no oil change. At my age I do not want to get out and get under so my oil and filter now changed every 5,000 miles or even less via the extraction method.
Just did mine with a manual pump however removed the oil filler cap and sucked it out in no time (Via the dip stick tube , or what should be on 4.4 TDV8) Good video. Thank you
I think I learned that the oil needs to be hotter (so less viscous/thick) for my little electric pump 👍
Hi really enjoying the video series. Just one point on the oil change, would you not consider filling with 5w 50 weight oil seeing as there are 160k miles on the engine, 5w 30 is a bit light in my opinion. Mick 👍🍻
It looks like the plastic pipe is curling up from how it's come packaged. I would imagine when fed down the dipstick tube it starts to curl again and isn't hitting the bottom or curling up as it does touch. The hand pump one I purchased is a much more rigid plastic with a steel liner inside the last few inches to avoid this.
I burned out a couple of these pumps, manual vac extraction much better. Also best to drive around to get the oil contaminants in suspension before sucking it out.
Try tapping a socket on the sump bung or if that fails try a pair of stillsons, if all else fails use a cold chisel on the bungs thicker end. Look it up on UA-cam how to unfasten a bolt with a chisel
Yeah, I’ll probably knock a tight socket on when I get round to it. It’s the awkward one above the subframe crossmember that worried me... so I bottled it & went for a pump just to get it done for now 👍
I also use this method, but just to remove about two liters engine oil as soon as its volume raises due to diesel coming into it normaly caused by DPF regeneration process. After that, just add some new oil.
For complete oil exchange, you need to use the drain plug, otherwise new oil and new filter will be contaminated immediately when you start the engine.
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My thoughts too 👍
@@Nut_Job.
I have same TDV8 engine on my sport, maybe you would like my videos as well.
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You’re nearly at that magic 1000 number 👍
@@Nut_Job. yes, but I do not achieve so many views like you.
Hello,
the HC Synthese oil is not fully synthetic, the Mannol Energy Premium 5W30 is though.
Is that mannol stuff any good?? I used Castrol in my rrs, but gona try some mannol In My tdi golf, apparently manufactured in Lithuania and hq in Germany
The only problem I could see in that is, if the pipe when it’s down there bends up at the end like they do. You could still have about 2 inches of oil left in the bottom and that’s where most of the crap will be.
Roy Colley that’s what I thought too. I moved the tube in/out a few times in an attempt to solve that issue but the flow was so slow it was difficult to know when it was sucking air... 🙄
Nice video. Would have liked to see the oil pan plug...as a reference to how bad it looked.
I think I’ll do one soon where I get it out & do a proper drain/fill... watch this space 👍
@@Nut_Job. ... That would be splendid. Keeping an eye on your space! Merci
There is two sumps on a tdv8 you must drain both
Think on these tdv8,s and the way both sump plugs are youl get more out with extraction
Over 8.5 litres out last time
I get 9.5 liters out by draining.
rhkavli I do mine every 7000 miles every other oil change I drain from sump
I'm changing to l405 sdv8 soon will prob use probe on that one too
Are you happy with this Mannol 5w30 7511 engine oil?
How many miles do you keep it?
If in real doubt as to whether or not all the sludge has come out surely the best thing to do is drain and remove the sump then clean it out and replace with new gasket.
Well having blitzed through your videos on the Range Rover review , I have decided to give the vehicle that I won on eBay a miss. They are in no doubt a brilliant vehicle but I would need a very large farm to really enjoy such a machine.
... ?? Ahhhh, but you won?? Doesn't that mean you are obligated to complete the deal and purchase?
Hmmm 🤔
Are the cheap pumps robust enough if you heat the oil a little too much to aid flow. I.e. Are the pump internals likely to melt!
I think they’re probably ok up to ~60°C
But if anything, I’d use this video as an example to either buy a better pump or do it the old fashioned way 😉👍
I tried using the method you are using but only managed to extract 5.5l, how did you get the rest out, I couldn't get the tube down any further?
With mine I thought it may have hit the sump & curled back upwards when I pushed it quite far in, so a bit of trial & error was required. Another problem I encountered was the viscosity of the oil, since mine started only warm, rather than hot... so became more difficult for the pump as time dragged on
I use a proper sealey extractor awesome and quick
Yeah, I think if I was going to do it this way again I’d buy some better kit. I’m not convinced it’s the best way to do it yet, but certainly easier (if it flows quickly enough)
You haven’t removed the any filings that maybe in the sump or removed all the oil from the sump - don’t think the sump pump is really a good way of doing the job - but thanks for the video
If that nut is rounded, just weld new nut to it and open. Then replace plug. Draining engine oil from diesel engine, let all soot and metal particles to live happily in sump, destroying engine slowly, in between oil changes.
Hi mate do I put the new filter into the cap / lid then screw it in or do I put it into the engine part first then screw cap down onto it so it clips in I been told one way is wrong from to different people but they both said different one said engine first and the top screws down and clips in and the other said clip it into the lid and screw it in hope this made some sort of sense to you 😂😂 please help
You can actually do it either way in my opinion. However, I would insert the new filter into the cap first & then carefully offer the new filter into the recess & twist it so that the little plastic connector stub finds it’s receiver. Once it’s correctly seated you can tighten the cap down 👍
Nut Job thanks mate I been stressing like crazy my first time doing a Range and even the new oring rubber there normally round these are squared off new to me
My new ring didn’t sit flush I guessed it’s because when it tightens in it squashed in flat am I correct in that please say I am 🤦♂️ because I looked underneath it and the plastic looks slightly angled so it’s like this \ ?
It might be worth checking out the video I did on my BMW as it’s virtually identical to the TDV8 oil filter. See it here: ua-cam.com/video/7YrnESc_rE8/v-deo.html
Check out the oil filter removal from around 5 mins in 👍
The range rovers engine oil should be changed at every 3,000 miles on the clock without the need of the new oil filter( if new from the previous oil change) and manual hand siphoning pump (oil extractor ) is recommended for faster siphoning ...
Did you get the full 10 litres out of the engine?
Curtis Jarvis Not quite, but close. That little pump really struggled (& I spent nearly 4hrs total) so I called it a day around 9 litres. Not great, but better than no oil change for now...
I use this pump, you need the engine oil hot , and it will suck the lot out in 5 mins
Perhaps I wasn’t doing it right. I ran the engine so it was warm, but didn’t want to risk it being too hot for the pump...
Nut Job no you won’t hurt the pump
you would be better off removing and replace with new sump plug,
Should of got the nut changed .. rounded nuts are a no no ..
Yes, I agree. Next oil change...
For less money buy a sump plug lol