Range Rover L322 - 10 Month Update, What's the reality of owning one?
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- Опубліковано 22 тра 2024
- On the 300th day of owning my risky auction purchase L322 I decided it was time to do an update video to explain what it's like to live with and what it's cost me in that time; you may well be surprised.
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I'm doing my part! Maintaining a 2005 petrol V8 L322. Keep the old stuff on the road, good for the environment, good for the economy and good for me because it's a wonderful vehicle!
I’ve got a 2011 4.4 tdv8 and spent a fair amount sorting it out over the last 5 years. It’s now spot on 😊
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Every time I sit in the bloody thing it brings a smile to my face. 2004 TD6.
Currently got a 2009 L322 3.6TDV8 Westminster in Stornoway grey just hit 100,000 miles and had it about 18 months! I must admit it’s my third L322 and it’s become something of an addiction.
I am on my second l322.Its black with a sand colour interior with sand coloured interior with black wood inserts and its done approx 109000 miles and I have owned it since 2021. And I am a woman and I love it.
Great video. I have just bought a 2011 4.4l tdV8 Autobiography L322 that has done north of 200k kms for a whopping 16k euros. But is has been well maintained. I know Range Rovers, having had three Classics and one L322 followed by a L405. In my humble opinion the L322 is a better driving experience than the overly complex L405. Also the layout of the L322 dashboard is better thought out. I think you got the bargain of the century, sometime you take a risk and come out the other end smiling.
About your concern about the turbos, there is a very simple solution which works. Delete the EGR Valve operations from your vehicle computer and cap off the valves. When these valves fails bit fall into the turbos and it that which causes the damage. Deleting the EGR will not adversely effect the operation of the engine. If you use a garage to do this have the engine remapped as it will cost the same to do both as just the EGRs, Once remapped the engine will breath better your throttle response will be better and you get better fuel economy, bit of a no brainer, improve performance and fuel economy whilst protecting your engine from a costly failure all for around 500 drinking tokens. Once done you can forget about having turbo problems.
I agree with all your comments about having a Range Rover. As for the feeling of driving one it is very difficult to explain to anyone who has not experienced it. Personally I think it is all about being relatively high up and being able to see what is going on whilst being in a very nice, quiet and comfortable place. I is the ultimate armchair on wheels, I live in SW France and I am looking forward to driving back to England at Easter to have an engine and transmission remap plus the EGR delete and a transmission Mega Flush to ensure a long lasting trouble free gearbox. The gearbox on all these cars gets neglected and that is the main cause of people having problems, it is a complex bit of kit and has to serviced and looked after.
Sorry for the length of this comment but I think the effort you have taken to produce the two videos deserves more that a quick couple of lines. Do give serious consideration to the question of EGR deletion and maybe a remap to get the engine ideally suited to the European climate. The factor mapping delivers a car that can operate in very high temperatures and extreme cold whilst being able to accommodate marginal fuel quality. If you are using the car in our reasonably mild European climate then a remap makes a lot of sense, it is not for performance but intimate efficiency, however, if you go this route choose a good tuning shop with a good remap service. I use MAC Tuning in Stevenage but there are many other capable outfits.
I hope continue to enjoy your bargain L322 and I look forward to your two year evaluation in the future,
Have a good one, stay safe and keep frosty,
Regards Bruce
That gearbox oil change will likely preserve your gearbox for a long while yet. Changing the engine oil every 6 months/ 5000 mile will significantly improve your engine's life. Cleanliness is next to Godliness as my father used to say.
Legendary honest appraisal. Loved it! Thanks for the excellent review. I enjoyed the way you presented. Thank you.
Great video. Really like your attitude towards keeping old gear on the road. Just got an - l322 2006 petrol V8. Scratched the itch. Ive also got a Land Cruiser (Prado) and that’s a fabulous car. I’ve done all the preventative maintenance on the LC so fancied a project motor.
I’m 2 years into mine, 120k miles and spent 5k on it 😂 air compressor after 5 days, turbo hoses, gearbox flush, alternator, servicing, serpentine belts and pulleys, 2 batteries, every oil in the car changed ie diff etc,but wouldn’t change a day of owning it ! Just having the rear arches done in 2 weeks , another £800. 07 vogue SE, but it’s a beautiful car to look at and drive. I will keep it forever as I always wanted one. It’s got a full service history from new and is like a rolls Royce to drive.
L322 owner and I love it. LOVE IT❤❤❤❤
Just spent £900 on a transfer box (16th Feb) it’s a refurb with a warranty verses a 2000 for a new.
£460 on 2 new Pirelli Scorpions
Passed its MOT
25 mpg 😂 you have to laugh or cry
£690 Road tax
£600 insurance
It has the usual rust but my mechanic says it’s all mechanically sound. The trick is to find a good mechanic.
I’m retired on a limited income so makes zero sense, my wife knows how much I ADORE this car and she never says a word about getting rid of it.
My friends always want to go out in this. The height ride is brilliant
Similar to others I have a 2007 L322 Vogue 3.6TDV8 had it about two weeks. It’s a 4 owner with FSH 65,000 miles so I paid slightly over the odds as wanted the history and it’s in lovely condition for age. Had one of these originally on a 59 plate and owned every model since right up to date - but it’s the one I’d choose to driver over any of the others. Yep, it’s going to go wrong but like your attitude towards it. Great video enjoyed watching.
Thanks
Just bought one here in the east of Africa (Uganda) it is a beaut. Bought at a steal. Needs a new engine and one shock absorber booster. Looking forward to getting it on the road.
Great video thank you. You hit the nail 100% on the head with me. I want one, have a route now to buying one and am battling sensible head of having owned older cars that have cost hundreds of pounds, vs the bug of really wanting to experiencing owning a 322 and for the practicalities of living out in the countryside where there are potholes, floods, snow occasionally. Would make an awesome tow car and “truck” with all the space in them too. Teetering on the edge and about to jump I think!
The whole internet is chanting "do it. Do it, DO IT!" 🙂
I have 2010 L322 3.6TDV8. Vogue SE.
Metallic Black.
18 ownership so far. (Had a P38 before). I’m the second owner from new 41k miles full London service record.
Just Done disc brakes and pads, already sorted heater thermostat and CD, new battery. But it still goes flat very frustrating but I’ll get it sorted. Love it and I’m keeping it. Great drive.
Found a lovely l322 vouge v8 in stornaway grey with a very good service history. Drove great for 3 months then under acceleration would randomly go into limp mode..after a long diagnostic test turned out to be exhaust inlet manifolds..garage replaced parts its a long job cost just under £3.000 including a few replacement bits and a carbon clean on the turbos. Since then i have had over 10 months of glorious driving..i absolutely love this car...its definitely a range rover thing,once you drive and own one there's no going back ❤
All cars are really expensive to repair these days and I wouldn’t trust a new car
Glad you enjoy it- save the planet and keep it going and enjoy - I love my L322 and in my opinion the best ever
Want one...your reasoning was spot on!
Lots of fun in my L322 2005 V8. Not hard to work on, I had a Disco 1 V8 uplift 1996 and it has been many places on and off road in NZ. Yes maintenance is required but keep up to date and enjoy just like you do. Big smiles over the miles! 25:48 25:48
Ive been looking to own an L322. And this as made my mind up, can't wait to sit behind the wheel when I do purchase one, I own a kia sportage had 5 years and spent nearly £2K on it in the last 6 months. So yeah great vid and hopefully get my hands on one these beauties soon. 👍
Hi I'm Ian Groom, iv had 5 various rangerover now and now have the 4.2 supercharged v8 running on LPG and it is the best car iv have. Great video by the way, I all so changed the exhaust system and put stainless steel pipes up under the lengh of the running board's sounds great.
I have had 3 Range Rovers and 6 Discos over the last 20 years. At the mo I have a 2007 TDV8 overfinch, I love it.
Great video well done I was the proud owner of a range rover 4.2 lt supercharged, once the warranty was up I panicked and sold. What a mistake!!!! . I then got myself into a brand new Japanese box with a great warranty, had it back twice with electrical fault which couldn't be diagnosed as it wasn't misbehaving at that time. On the final time it broke down I made the decision that I would sooner have an older range rover without warranty than an soul-less plastic fantastic that the warranty was useless so I have just purchased a 2013 range rover sport 3.0 diesel needs a few small jobs but Iam back in love. Once you have had one its hard to live without a range in your life. Keep turning out the videos brother.
Good video on buying range rover l322 and what its cost you so far. For the size and age of car seems reasonable to me. I enjoyed watching.
Currently own TD6 2005, love the driving position, don’t hate anything, used daily, currently on 206k, when things brake/need repair I just get it fixed, will upgrade to another L322 (would like to try another model) at some point. Your video is spot on and your commentary hits the right balance. Keep up the good insight!
That's the way, drive it and fix it when it breaks.
I said in this video that I was worried about the shock absorbers failing as they are the constant variable damping ones and the car has started to creak and grumble over the bumps at low speed (can't hear it when going much over walking pace). Took the rear wheel off to investigate the bushes yesterday and found a blown/leaking rear shock. I have just ordered the pair of rear shocks for it and got them for a steal at £480 for the pair delivered. If it was a car without the adaptive damping it could have been done for as little as £100 for a pair of decent shocks. It stings a bit but I can't preach about maintenance and then ignore the issues or fit parts that detract from the original build can I really? I suspect this issue has been present for a while so I'm hoping it will be noticeable improvement when I get them fitted this week. I'll drive it about 400 miles Sunday/Monday so I'm looking forward to the improvement.
just seen your video....i got one about 18 months ago and i love it and the wifes does as well it is the best car i have ever had/driven and ive had all sorts of cars .we will be getting another one that is for sure
Currently own TDV8 3.6 Best thing ever! Keep smilin'
Own a 2011 Vogue SE 4.4TDV8. Only had it a month. Love it. Been thinking about this for a while, took a few months on Autotrader to find the right one, and then jumped in. Will be the daily driver (replacing Ranger Wildtrak) once I have had it serviced and checked over by a Land Rover Specialist who happens to be in my village, which is a nice comfort blanket.
Great update would very much like to own an older vehicle especially one as iconic as the L322 as some would say probably the best car in the world, thanks for your honesty and I will update you when I get one
Just got one. Currently having some preventative maintenance. Cant wait to get driving. Autobiography Black Edition 4.4 TDV8. Absolutely the best car I’ve ever owned 👍🏻
I have owned 3 L322’s in my time, and loved them, like you (all 4.4TDV8). Am on my second L405 (4.4TDV8) and love them too … although have had a couple more maintenance issues with the 405 than the 322s. Overall though, they are just a pleasure to own and drive for a long distance - we drive to France/Italy every other year. I back up your comment - take the plunge, people, you will just love it.
Buy any modern car at £40k and you spend £3-400 month on depreciation. Accept that it'll cost you £2-3k a year and not alot in depreciation. Easy choice for me. Just doing a cam cover replacement on my 2008 TDV8 with 100k miles on the clock. Love it! Best thing regards turbos is to save up and have them done before they go bang and whilst your at it do the egr valves (or delete if you are so inclined. Suspension is modular and really not complicated if you work through it. Good luck
Love the IR brand and like that one you are driving !
Great video. I want one, thinking of the 4.4tdv8, with a spec of Vogue SE, or above. I'm not going to lie, the potential reliability worries are concerning me, but what a lovely car these appear to be! The L322 itch might have to be scratched soon.
Defo want. Hopefully get one this week!!
You’re quite right about the audience. I’m on the lookout and about to buy a 2011. A real petrolhead at heart I had to slow myself down and bought a Disco4 which was superb.
Now I’m a Tesla M3 Performance (immense piece of kit) for the last 4 years I still wanted a Disco again, but channels like yours have persuaded me on the L322.
Will sadly have to part with my 20 year old Subaru Legacy GT-B. It’s perfectly fine and costs nothing to repair, I’m going to miss a manual gearbox and the analog feel.
GT-B? Ooh, that is an excellent bit of kit, really understated too. My neighbour had one, he had a Legacy and saw the nose of the GT-B sticking out behind a Honda dealership and just did a U turn to go in and ask. Bought it there and then, went home to get the paperwork for his to trade and his wife asked him what happened to the shopping that he went out for? "Err, something came up".
You are a bad man! LR lent me a L322 in 2022 for a week aged 24 at the launch because I was involved with estate management. What a car. Living with 3 mates on a grouse moor making little money but having fun we wrote up a list of 36 challenges to do in the car. “Park it badly over 2 spaces” “Rob a bank”
“Watch the races standing on the tail gate having a picnic “
“Shoot something from it “
“Get it stuck”
Etc
We did some but not all.
the L322 ever since has been a car I have loved.
Left the UK 16 years ago to live in africa and my mechanic just today looked at an L322 today for me today. It was surprising he could not believe his own words when he was telling me it was a cleaner car than the other Toyota Land Cruisers in the have been looking at . High risk car in high risk and demanding environment - what could go wrong!
Harry and Clarkson don’t help!!! 😮
Bugger it. Perhaps I should!
I want to. I currently own a Freelander 2 and love it. Have owned a Discovery 3 and also loved it.
I'm watching this after i just bought a 2005 Range Rover Sport 4.2 SC 1st Edition and at auction with no test drive. Agree with you entirely, if something is broke then fix it. I only paid £3k to in my mind i can spend a little more to fix any gremlins. Its only dont 96k miles, so hoping nothing major in near future. I'll be taking it out for a drive this week end it see what happens. Love the youtube vids
I hate the fact that you know me so well. I am here to have you convince me to buy one. Job done!
You won't regret it... Probably 🙂
First time owner of a 2003 Vogue with the BMW 4.4 V8 had it since June but it had its niggles and did not put miles on it. Only in the last month have I sorted said issues and taken it on my first long distance journey.
The issues were/are:
Gearbox needed a service but I feared it was worse. The filler plug was rounded so hummed and hawed about what to do, used JB weld and a surplus allen key socket.
New oil and filter and it’s smooth as you like.
There is something up with the steering angle sensor/or the suspension. Fitted a genuine sensor when I removed the one fitted to see it was a knock pattern part. Purchased a GAP IID tool to sort that out as it’ll need marrying to the car.
Being the BMW engine found the horror stories on the internet and immediately bought a timing chain tensioner and serviced it shortly after purchase. Not rattle before and it looked as though it had been changed before.
Last but not least, rust in the outer sills. Didn’t check it properly when I seen it and when I got it home decided to have a look under the plastic. Fuck.
Plan is to survive winter doing as little miles on salted roads and sort out the rot in the new year.
Raft of other stuff like O2 sensors, thermostat, sporadic coolant and oil leaks.
Bought it for £2100 and can see a 2007 TDV8 for sale at £5000 locally I wouldn’t mind looking at. However it isn’t ULEZ compliant like my petrol one. Not really problem for me being in the Highlands but I do go south the Edinburgh and Glasgow sometimes and it’ll make an expensive journey even more sharp.
I got mine on eBay, a 2004 4.4 petrol LPG vogue mint condition for the yr and absolutely love it. HOWEVER now the electronic gremlins are raising their ugly heads. First the steering angle sensor went so replaced that now the HVAC is running even when turned off with the key, so just need a new final stage resistor ( also known as a hedgehog) to solve the battery drain problem. Btw I'm doing all these jobs myself with limited tools and experience, I've learned a hell of a lot from you tube vids. I just love Range Rovers and wouldn't hesitate to tell anyone who wants one to go for it BUT make sure to budget for around £200pm for maintenance or learn to do it yourself.
You very right keep the old cars on the road and if you look after the car then they will look after you. I had jeep commander.. Everyone said don't buy it but I had great time with it....
Fifteen years ago I couldn’t afford a Range Rover so I bought a 3.2 straight six petrol Freelander it’s been the best vehicle I’ve ever owned in fifty nine years of driving. It is serviced regularly ever year and I can honestly say apart from the usual consumable parts it hasn’t given me a minutes trouble. It’s now fifteen years old and as near mint as possible. All in all a wonderful motor!
Opening monologue is spot on we know its a bad idea but we do it. I spent 6 months looking finallly got one its lovely but my god the first hour made my eyes water TAX INSURANCE then Filled the tank
Yeah but you can forget about a couple of those for a year now and just don't talk about the other one. It's all good.
Brilliant. SPOT ON!
Currently running L322, 2008, TDV8, Vogue, 178K miles. Went into it thinking "i need to try one but, how will i get rid if it?" 😂. The grin factor is beyond price. Like to see videos of folks saying they're"unreliable" when viewing an ad for one with almost 200K miles. Well someone has got it that far! The best £2000 I have spent on a motor, (well £3K including the summer wheels! 😅). Get one!
All cars break, people simply don't understand how many things come together to make these things drive so well and of course the parts don't get any cheaper as the cars age, then they ignore the issues until it's riddled and "just keeps letting me down". They are letting the car down, not the other way around!
I actually currently have a small air suspension issue but I think it is as simple as a clogged drier so that's getting rebuilt this weekend and we'll be all good again.
I’m in the States, and own an 07 Supercharged. I absolutely love it! The prices here are a bit higher, as the bottom hasn’t dropped out of the market on them, as it has in the UK, but even at the higher purchase price, I’m still quite pleased with it.
I’m very happy with the Jag 4.2 motor, and I haven’t had any issues in the 14 or so months I’ve owned mine.
I also agree that it’s better, more desirable, and more fun to keep older vehicles on the road than to go out and buy a new, uninteresting, non-descript plastic blob off the lot from a dealer.
Honestly, I wouldn’t buy a brand new RR either. They’re not worth the ridiculous price new, and even if they were, I don’t like the look of them anywhere near as much.
I’m actually looking around for another L322 so I can drive one each day and cut the mileage in half on each, so I can look forward to many more years of ownership.
Lots of people summed up in the first 1:12, love it
Trying to decide between an L322 and an L405 currently. Looking at 4.4 diesels. I think I'm leaning towards the L322, it just seems more agricultural and fun. Thanks for the info, and the encouragement :P
Well I enjoyed that vid and I’ve noticed you love the sound of your own voice 😄
Loved your video, I am currently considering buying an L322, cant decide if to get TDV8 3.6 o the later TDV8 4.4, but I will get one when Ive sold my 2013 XJ 3.0litre Portfolio.
Cheers
Peter
Love the video, yes I want one. I don't think £1000 a year is bad for maintaining a car like the L322 is bad. I spend that on my 2010 Jeep.
Wanted for 10 years, own for two years. The Dream come true ( 2011 5,0 Supercharged. Dayly car). Repairs - easy done by myself.
You are spot on. 😂. I have had several. I have a 3.6 tdv8. I have done the turbos on a drive way. Not fun.😂. A great mod to do. Is removal the back exhaust box. It gives the V8 gentle rumble. Not at all noisy. Even at motorway speed. 😊.
I would love an L322. I just have to have one at some point. The comfort, ride quality, power, elevated driving position . This is my dream car. I don't care what it costs to run. I want one. Take care. Steve.
27 months into owning my 2007. Go for it. Last month did a thousand mile long weekend, fabulous. Last couple of weeks two 200 mile days dragging a huge horse trailer. God it is just the most fabulous vehicle I have ever driven. over fourteen years now into Land Rovers, never been let down.
I have owed a few Range Rover cars and the last one was a 2004 L322. I wish I’d not sold it. I’m looking for another newer upgraded L322. Just doing some research on what engine but I’m definitely going to get another one. I love the comfort and drive.
I went from an 04 Td6 to an 08 3.6 Tdv8. Best thing I've ever done
I have owned over a dozen Landrovers over the years (as well as every pickup truck, Toyota Landcruisers, Isuzu Troopers, Mercedes ML, and so on) and in particular, 5 x Range Rovers. My current is a 3.6TDV8 and it now has 117k. Bought it last year dirt cheap with lots of faults, and I have been ticking them off one by one. Bought myself a Gap IID tool and diagnose all the faults myself. Also used it to over write the TPMS CCF so that I no longer get sensor faults. It’s a Must have tool if you work on these yourself. However, be warned, once you have driven one of these, you will not like driving another car ever again. I keep kidding myself that I would be happy driving something else, but am not. It’s my all time favorite car. I saw a vid by Matt at High Peak autos and his advice on these was sound. Keep a couple of grand aside in a pot for when stuff needs to be done. I have done all four suspension bags, front discs and pads, gearbox service and have had a shop rebuild my rear diff. So if you want one enough to buy one, do your homework, buy one without any rust underneath, run it for at least 30 minutes at idle before you buy one, and then you might be okay. All the old ones have a gearbox leak but it’s nothing serious. Get it serviced and ask them to change the mechatronic wiring harness seal. On a run I get over 30mpg from this 2.7 ton lump but it is simply the best one to own. Be warned, not cheap, but my neighbour spends 500 a month on a new car lease and after 3 years has to give it back. So even driving a L322, the maths are on my side…..unless the turbos blow and then it’s a scrapper.
Turbos ain't that bad to do. I do them on my drive mate. Did my own a few months ago because the VNT was sticking on the L/H and did the pair for under £800. Definitely wouldn't scrap a good 322 just for the sake of a couple of turbos
@@StuStafford83 I'd be really interested to see a video on this. I haven't had to do mine and if they go, I will sort them out but I was under the impression it was an engine out job to do them which I would of course do and then be filled with regret the moment I started it 🙂. You can do them in situ can you?
@FatNFurious Yep 100% do them in situ. You wouldn't really gain much pulling the engine out if I'm honest. It's a fair bit of work, but far from impossible. Labour intensive more than anything. Both front struts have got to come off. Don't bother removing the subframe. The front diff is the worst bit to get out. Pull the complete L/H front hub off with the driveshaft and both arms attached to it and the diff wiggles out through the driveshaft opening in the subframe. Once you've got those bits off it's plain sailing. I'd advise taking the coolant diverter valve off as well that's tucked down the passenger side inner wing, once that and the strut is out of the way you can get in there easily! For the R/H turbo, get the starter off and you can get to the bottom of it and then get the mounting bolts and oil feed from through the hole in the inner wing behind where the front strut airbag lives
@@StuStafford83 Amazing, thanks. I've replaced that diverter valve already, that was my first fiddly RR job to do but like all things, once you work out the access it's not so bad. I'll keep this in mind and now I've read this I'm not too worried about the turbos failing on it, it'll just be a job that needs doing if they go. 👍
@FatNFurious Keep her going mate! I keep thinking of buying a newer one, but I can't be dealing with the insurance aggro that comes with the later keyless ones. I'll just keep the old 3.6 until it falls to bits I think
I got my Buckingham blue 2008 L322 TDV8 two weeks ago, 96 thousand miles on the clock. I don't like the sat nav map colours other than that I love it. I've done the oil and filters so just gearbox service at the garage and she's sound.
Really enjoyed the 2nd part! I really want one. They just look so stylish. Nothing on the road like them. Liked your comment about buying a new car for 300 quid a month. 3600 quid a year. It's the sort of vehicle that you buy for cash and then expect the costs of running it. If you are paying 300 quid a month for a new/second hand/leased car then the budget is there for running/repair costs. I so want one!
*in whispering voice, "Do it!"
@@FatNFurious Trying to convince my wife it’s a nice car…
@@JuganautTimelapse Seek forgiveness rather than permission?
My wife doesn’t like the look of the RR, apparently it’s too aggressive. She has the Disco 4 and that keeps the peace. In truth it was her fault as I didn’t want one until we got hers. She mocks me for it and it’s all good.
@@FatNFurious A good tactic....and also to blame her as well :-) My wife loves the look of the L322 especially inside and I said she would look good sitting in it (buttering up!) I think the plan is to look for one around 6k and then have the same amount in a pot for looking after it. Have to say it makes so much more sense than leasing a car for 300+ per month for a car that does not have the sheer style and looks of the L322.
I live in Cornwall, born in Maidstone, always wanted an L322, and I think maybe you have swayed me ;)
Own 2006 and love everything about it.
Want… currently looking 😩 Great video
I’m keeping the faith got a 2006 Vogue had it since 2015. Re-built gear box replaced front air bags and air compressor only cost £220 and half an hour to fit. Petrol 4.4 V8 Jag engine, parts are now quite reasonable and the cars ULEZ compliant it’s used as a daily driver into East London every day so Two fingers up to Sadistic Khan.
Since you asked … have already just bought a 2012 TDV8 L322 just a few months ago but am intrigued to see the experiences of others with these seemingly undervalued cult classics. My old supercharged V8 Jag finally hit the point that after 170,000 miles of flawless service (regular realistic maintenance notwithstanding) I had to look for a replacement. I’ve just spent today towing a flail mower around our paddocks (the usual Suzuki Vitara was also going round spiking the ground with a seed spreader on tow so I had to use the L322 as the most luxurious ride on mower while she was at work) … and then I put 2 dogs in the back to take them down country roads to one of my favourite Alvin games spots. All this in a pristine 60,000 mile white leather luxury vehicle with great sound and comfort probably better than a top end Jag minus a little of the Jag’s supreme ride … but with a hugely better view of the world. My other car is a an S1 Lotus Elise which I’ve had for over 20 years. Best of both wolds. I’ve had to ask myself today - what other car could do this? I was going to buy another Lotus or an Aston, but needed a towing vehicle quickly … I drove this home after buying it and honestly was happier than if I’d bought the Emirates or the DB9 - or even the Bentley - I’d been thinking about. Obviously given those aspirations I’m realistic about the costs that you have to be prepared for with any complex luxury vehicle like this … so … honestly what other vehicle could do all of this and tick all of those boxes? Hey - it’s never going to be a Lotus - but I love driving it and the Elise has stayed in the garage all this summer. Maybe I’m getting old, but I love this vehicle (switching off the seatbelt alarm in the garden is an unexpectedly massive bonus) …. I suspect this will stay for work when the Suzuki dies (thought that thing is amazing and keeps going despite massive neglect) and I will get the supercharged V8 next - I love that engine! 😎 Great vid and thanks for sharing 🙏
Just tried to edit typos in the above - but UA-cam has blocked it for some reason. Alvin games = dog walking … any other typos please ignore - weird! 😎
I have a 2011 RRS HSE with around 23000 km and I just love it, maintenance and repairs ( just replaced my EPG module ink work- 2850 pounds) are high but I live in Sweden so the parts are expensive.I keep it despite the cost because it is a lovely car.
To answer your question, watching because I want one. Drove a L322 and L405 back to back recently and much preferred the 322 by a large margin. I'd even go so far as to buy one and spend enough on bringing it up to standard to have bought a 405. I don't want one because they're cheaper, I want one because its my preference of the two Basically it's going to be keeper.
What did you like more about the L322 over the L405? I am yet to test drive either, but I am considering buying one of the two myself.
@@TorontoL322 The 322 felt a lot more solid to drive, plus the vehicle is more mechanical than electronic. Things such as lowering the rear seats, opening the tailgate etc. On the 405 all those things have motors, in the the 322 they're done manually. And considering how stolen 405's are in the UK at the moment there's absolutely no chance I'd even consider one.
@@echobravo1105 I ended up buying a L322! I kinda agree on all the mechanical stuff. Electronic tailgate and seats are all nice features, but when you’re in a hurry they’re become a hindrance.
And you still got it - 10 months down now👍
love it. used to drive classics, now i have not one but two L322's. my daily drive with 240k miles on it is a 2003 and the one my wife drives is a 2005. i do all my own maintenance and like you i am determined to keep them on the road because not only are they lovely to live with but they are no more trouble to fix than any other car
I just changed an alternator on mine today. I have definitely done that job more easily on other cars by a country mile! Still bloody love it though even if I was swearing at it this afternoon 🙂
@@FatNFurious and I replaced the in tank fuel pump!
Now I just have to work out how to re calibrate the gauge. When that’s sorted I need to replace both subframes and all the rear suspension. Deal with a few rusty bits, fix the heater, and change the wiper blades 🤣
@@SuffolkCraftsmen perfect, that’s a short list of jobs for these! In fairness, they don’t take that much work if you do things as they come up, it’s when people buy them as “cheap” cars and then ignore the jobs as the parts are pricey. It just escalates.
My alternator was the OEM LR one so if you consider that it lasted over 160k miles you really can’t call it unreliable (or Land Rover I suppose) it was a Denso product but you get what I mean.
The Aux belt was LR too, I wonder if that was original???
@@FatNFurious to be fair, the wife’s car is only ever used on the road and needs nothing done at 180k miles. Mine gets hammered on and off road, 240k miles and after 5 years of ownership and maintenance I still break it on a regular basis. Last weekend I shattered a CV joint and a couple of weeks before that I had to do a trail repair when I cracked the front subframe! Love them 😁
Always wanted one. Will be looking for the 4.4 v8. I've been stung with other 4x4s and don't see it being much different. The horror stories do worry me, but what the Mrs doesn't know won't hurt me 😂
great frank comments I watch this as I'm getting my first FFRR in the new year I hoping to get my hands on the L405 4.4lt 8 speed great if you could upgrade you did mention it in your last vid
I want! Been keeping an eye on them for a year. I should bite the bullet but still keeping my e class diesel daily
You bang on with your facts , I’ve owned mine since new 2002 and 230k miles on the clock all done by me , I’m on my third gearbox , done the airbags on my suspension 3 times , just change the starter motor as without any warning it broke in 100 pieces inside itself out of the blue , just had it serviced, re gassed my aircon , I’m of to Spain 🇪🇸in 2 weeks time for my yearly drive to our home there , 1500 miles each way , I’ve done the same trip in my L322 for the last 18 years , touch wood this one goes ok , got my RAC European gold cover just in case . Oh and by the way we buy any car valued my car at £700.00 😂😂😂. I will honestly never sell it absolutely love it and know it like the back of my hand , luckily for me, where I work, there are numerous garages, and every time something small goes wrong with it I fix it straight away, seems to be the best approach. Wish me luck on this years trip 💪🏻🙏🏻🥰
I am in Australia and i serviced our disco 4 àir comp and purchqsed a service kit for it from GB ! Main prob is the moisture crystals !
I’ve had 2 freelanders, disco 1, 3x disco 2, disco 3, RR p38 and latest is L322 which is my favorite , it’s a jag V8 petrol love it , drive it like a roller and smiles per gallon , cost me £650 in sensors 4 months after buying but since then been great 2 years on👍
I have recently bought my l322 (Dec 22) i have no regrets so far. Ive replaced the alternator ( big ouch) the battery ( just ouch) air suspension bag replaced ( not as bad as it could have been, but oomph!! nonetheless). I love driving it, and the wife likes it too. Bonus. Apart from the ouches and oomphs, of course.😂
Bought an L322 in 2015 with 87000 miles on clock paid £16950 for it, still got it and still love it,
Spent a lot of money on her ( Gertrude) she called she is presently in hospital having that water leak on those 3 aluminium pipes and heater valve plus auxillary heater pump and full service.
All boost pipes being changed for turbo, plus one track rod end and MOT. She still only done 115000 miles but like you say there not cheap to run but I think of anything else to drive I LOVE IT😊❤
Currently own 2012 Westminster, 4.4 TDV8. Love it! Hate... Too soon to say!
Thanks for the video., especially the “Do it! Do it! Do it!” Now I have no choice 😉 To be honest, I’m likely to make an offer on a 4.4 TDV8 tomorrow. I think it might be my Forever Car. Sure, they might be idiosyncratic and even a bit temperamental but there’s nothing better than a car than does everything and has a bonus passionate and loyal owner community. I have the bug. 😳
Hi i have a2012 L322 4.4 Tdv8 vi all ways wanted one so I did it I love it every time you get in it you just feel so good if you want one just get it never mind what anybody else thinks the best car I have ever had
Want! My parents have owned them for years and I really want an L320 supercharged. Next year.
Own one. 4.2 SC, 2006. Hate the maintenance, love the drive. Have it for 5 years now, cost me 18.000 euro's garage bills, without tax, insurance and gas. But worth it.
Love that SC engine!
Had a 2011 tdv8. It's the only car I've sold and instantly regretted it. So I'm back in the market for another. Just waiting for the right one. Truly a perfect motor
I have one and l love it. 4.2 Ltr it has also done over 130k, which for this car l consider just run in.
Want. I have a 2010 Jaguar XKR that I feared would be a horror. An analog to this Range Rover, it is amazing. I love it. Of course it's not cheap. I get so much joy from it..
Brit in the USA. Have a 2011 322 5.0 SC. Great power. Just coming up to 136K miles . Change the oil every 5K ( timing chain concern) . Had to change front right suspension strut due to leak. Main issue was troubleshooting it. I recommend getting a diagnostic tool. In France had TD Range Rover , and before this 322 had a LR3 discovery 2008. On that I overhauled the suspension compressor for about $50. (Good video on y tube) . If I have a complaint it’s the gps/entertainment was not the best. But compared to the drive and comfort it’s minor. My wife loves it . We have the registration… 5ANDRA guess her name ?
Forgot to add , your video and rational was on point.
Brilliant! 👏🏻 I'm watching because.... a, I am finally considering a V8 5.0 petrol ( possibly a Supercharger) after avoiding them forever. b, I'm going to be coming out of my XC90 V8 (315 bhp) Executive after 6 years and they are fairly similar on many levels... The XC90 has been as good as gold and an absolute joy to own but I have an imminent move approaching and sadly will not be able to take it with me. Fuel economy is not an issue for me and I firmly believe in maintaining and investing in my cars but I would still appreciate your opinion🙏🏻
Should do a PS oil change as well !
Love your vlogs thank you. Like your Dad, I have mobility issues and use a walker. How did he manage getting in and out on your French travels?
Thank you. I'm sorry to hear that you too have mobility issues, I had a taste of it myself after a hit and run motorcycle accident some years back and whilst my recovery was relatively swift in the grand scheme of things, the understanding of being reliant on aides to perform everyday tasks has never left me.
To answer your question though, the RR is the best car for him to get in and out of, whilst it is quite high up (even in Access Mode) mine fortunately has the side steps on it and given the height of the roof and large door opening he can step up on to the side steps and then twist into the seat with relative ease. My other cars are a lot lower and that is actually more problematic when he has to lower himself to the seat to get in and lift himself up when his hips are level or below his knees to get out. Dad doesn't drive anymore but he and Mum had a Tiguan and a Focus, we sold the Focus as the Tiguan is definitely easier for him to manage but it's not as easy as the RR without the steps and having smaller doors. I'd put them in an L322 if I could bear thought of maintaining a third LR after mine and my wife's Disco 4 🙂
We have a l322 vogue se tdv8 3.6 and evoque and a freelander 2, says it all really
2011 4.4 L L322 this is my 4th Range rover in "Nara Bronze" very unusual!, although this car is exceptional I still miss my P38 (BMW) 2.5 L. wish I kept that and spent a bit of money on it!.
Had an L322 TD6. Slow, but comfy enough. Had issues, suspension bushes (of course, it’s heavy), steering column motor, fuel pump. Ran it to 130k. Now on my 2nd L405. Superb cars, but……what do you replace it with?!
I'm hesitating, but almost convinced to buy one the following year 🙃 I had one ride in discovery 3, sadly none in l322, but tested interior of one. Still gathering information to chose the best engine option. Wish they were lighter like l405 and it's a little bit shame that every gearbox is at limit, so it's not to good to chip it (unless it's supercharged L405 with 8-speed). Does only the supercharged ones have that better handling suspension?
i have a l322 as a toy and slowly do it up bit by bit
Debating buying a 2007 4.2 Supercharged L322. Really want one and think i might just pull the trigger!
You only live once and ive always bought sensible vehicles over the years. Very boring i know. So think its about time i take a risk. 👍
Ive just watched your other one buying it top, now im on this ,my freind just had 2x turbos on his X6 £4,800 He is crying .
Wanted - and pulled the trigger - bought it (2007 HSE with 118K miles). Hopefully with the right maintenance, will keep running past the 250k-mile mark for the next decade to come
Yesss!
I may have accidentally bought a (broken) Range Rover Sport recently with my brother... It's an addiction now! Enjoy every mile in yours.
I got 2008 lr322 105000 miles had for 6yrs now, change oil every year,big hit this yr with bushes being dne,wheel arches,new rear door rubbers, that carnt b 2 bad after 15 yrs on the road,mine hve nvr had a tow itch fitted, strange 4 a l322.
I’ve done it, bought a 2012 at auction has some issues (don’t they all 😅) working through them before getting it and the gearbox serviced, always been a LR fan
Congratulations!
Want one. Have wanted one all my life (52 now), getting closer...😀 All about the prestige.
I’ll be totally honest, I’ve had a suspension niggle that has driven me to distraction for a few weeks, resolved it the other day (£10 part). Last night, I drove the car 2.5 hours in miserable weather to meet my wife and kids at Butlins for the weekend and as I got near to my destination I caught myself thinking about just how great the car is to own and what a wonderful drive it truly is.
I never really wanted one until I drove our Discovery 4 and now I almost cannot imagine being without it.
All joking aside, spend a day with one and you’ll be 99% in favour of buying one. Budget for your startup costs and go for it.
I'm not phased by the cost of running / repairing to be honest as cost of entry isn't too bad, there'll be some in reserve. My current motor cost me £34k, has depreciated £10k in two years. I can't see the same losses arising with a long legged Rangey, and I'm going to retire in a few years so a decent one may serve me in my first few years of retirement too. Have my eyes on one at the moment, 2009 3.6 TDV8 c70k miles. 2 owners, £13k...
After driving a company car for 12 years I am now about to buy a Disco4 within the next few month. This might be a stupid idea, indeed. Thanks for this video!
Very stupid but you’ll love it.
Enjoy!
Too late! I sold the L322 after a year of ownership. Best one I have ever had and that engine is to die for. Unimaginable power from an old Range Rover. Bought a Discovery Sport but not the Fisher price engine one. I bought the old Freelander 2.2 powered one.