I am someone who does a lot of acting for school and am also a victim of SA, and it is very hard to genuinely replicate the visceral physical reactions to retelling your story. She is so clearly acting that it is offensive to those of us who have been through such trauma. You can literally see where she turns her acting self “on.” Very uncomfortable
This 100% I texted my fiance that it felt insulting and offensive. (Fellow abuse victim here.) He's been relying on me for updates on the case and yesterday was the first time I had to stop watching because I was genuinely upset just listening to it.
We are seeing some truth during her testimony. We're seeing why a tall blonde struggled so much to get bigger and more meaningful roles in Hollywood. Her acting is at the level of a freshman auditioning for a performing arts school, overacting, making everything far too overly dramatic, thinking that is performance rather than just being and feeling for the role.
@@keisha_renee precisely, and I felt she had more love for that gown than she had for her vagina. Like where are the proofs that ever happened? Why did no one notice a difference in her gait? I don't suppose any woman would be able to walk straight after being penetrated with a glass bottle to the point of bleeding?
Emily did you notice she said this trial is the most painful, traumatizing event she has ever gone through? Wouldnt one conclude the most painful thing would be the alleged domestic violence?!?!?
@@19rcooper have you experienced DV or are you just speculating lol. As someone who has been involved in an abusive relationship, I wouldn’t love to retell the saga publicly, but it definitely wouldn’t rank in my mind as “worse” than the abuse itself. Not sure who would.
@@19rcooper I work in a domestic violence center and definitely it is painful for many survivors to have to relive the events of the abuse. Fellow survivors are often triggered by hearing other people's stories. That said, I can't stand Amber, fully believe she is lying and is the true abuser.
@@katieegan5178 giving testimony in court is awful. Having your intimate texts read out, being called a liar is mortifying. It attacks your integrity and it's all done in front of strangers. I dont think I'd put myself through it again.
Exactly!!! Narrating. Also adding so many extra words. If you're telling the truth you don't need extra words, repeating ECT. She is a terrible liar and a terrible actor.
She tells these stories in the present tense. It sounds weird to me. Like she’s relaying an idea about a story or script she has an idea for to a production team.
@@thekitowl There are probably parts of Amber’s story that ARE true, but…… none of us can actually know which parts are factual, and which parts are embellished or even outright lies, because we weren’t there. ….I honestly just hope that at the end of this trial, both parties will seek the help they need to recover from the trauma they have inflicted upon each other through the 10 or so years of their entanglement. Even though they are “stars” and so obviously in the spotlight, as mere mortal human beings, it appears that both of them are hurting, and it would be great to see them get the help they need to move on and hopefully, learn the lessons that each of them was meant to gleen from this and evolve. :)
Exactly! He has no need to do this. Why would he do this if he was the abuser? Why would there be so many audio tapes where she yells and screams and admits to hit him, throughs stuff but NEVER something he does, even tho she claims he slaped her around all the time
I came to this with an open mind. But the more I am listening to her the weirder it is. I was in abusive relationship. When Jonny Depp was talking, it reminded me so much of what happened to me. It triggered me. But now I am listening to Amber. It makes me feel like she read about abusive relationships and now tries to guess how it feels to be abused. It's just so so weird.
That's my experience watching this too. I heard the Depp/Heard audio recordings years ago, shortly after getting out of my own abusive relationship, and it was honestly a pivotal part of me coming to terms with what I went through. I might as well have been listening to myself and my ex argue. She said and did all of the same things my ex did.
My thoughts exactly. I find the obvious signs of abuse and perpetual gaslighting throughout his testimony. Like how even though he knew he didn’t bust her nose, you can hear in how he recounts it that he was trying to hold on to his reality in that moment. So much so he had to wait to seek proof, ie. the tissue in the trash. It’s so consistent with how abusers make you question your reality. Also the way she smiled and fondly talked about the start of their relationship. You’d imagine she’d rue the day she met him. Her recounts of abuse in the blocking also often make no sense. It’s a slap in the face to victims.
Exactly she is saying all the right things but I don't feel anything. I mostly remember feeling guilty for making my abuser angry and I remember the fear when my abuser was in a black out rage where they wouldn't remember what they did. They would hurt me and scream at me and a second later ask why I'm crying and what happened. Amber only brings up not being able to reach him and that he wasn't there anymore but she never described why she felt that way.
She also keeps talking about how SHE tried to leave, but we've already heard her admit ON TAPE as well as to therapists that SHE WOULD RATHER FIGHT THEN LET HIM LEAVE. Listen if it was one or two or three things in her whole testimony, I might give her some benefit of the doubt - but VERY VERY LITTLE as she describes it makes sense!
Yes, her own therapist mentioned that she struggled to deescalate. Yet her testimony doesn't take responsibility for literally anything, even though even the defense admits that she got aggressive.
She's obviously practiced this, a lot. She doesn't even have short breaks where she thinks about what happened before putting it into words. Obviously, she's had time to think about what she's going to say, anyone would have thought about what they will say on the stand, but this is like reading from a script.
It isn't authentic because she has practiced too much, but other actors on set have said she is hard to get to act 'right'. If we made a web chart of all of the people who have split up around her, INCLUDING GAGA & AH/JD AGENT'S 💍, ANGELINA JOLIE WAS RIGHT. Amber wasn't right for Johnny & maybe he wasn't ready to reveal how right she really was. I think that THE ONLY REASON there was chemistry on set of Rum Diaries, was because Heard knew this was her golden goose. I still want to know what AH spent on marital credit cards AFTER THE TRO. I think the agent should have not set up the meeting unless AH had him fooled as well. AH is embarrassing herself bc of bad acting i.e. NO TEARS, SA REPORTS, AND THEN GOING TO MEET WHILE TRO WAS STILL IN EFFECT. As the agent was under the spell of his clients clearing this all up. He dealt with Hollywood long enough to know JD and the rumors, antics and how well rag mags sell if he was on them. I.E Sun in UK. LIKE TMZ SUN BUYS STORIES. I THINK THAT RUM DIARIES STORY FROM HER SIDE WAS OPPOSITE FROM SHOWER SCENE (much Sexier scene that 1st kiss (which she was kissing, with tongue, right back) wasn't a face grab unless it was a deleted scene. Yes, I do think she watched too many testimony of WeinStub cases, Other court cases, maybe even LAW & ORDER, BUT SHE OVER COMPENSATES AS Dr. HOTTIE MUFFIN EXPLAINED THROUGHOUT. Imo Dr. DUSK H was surely reprimanded for the testimony because of her lack of professionalism in the evaluation, and like Dr. CURRY, SHE DIDN'T HAVE THE IPAD VERSION OF TESTS SO SHE COULD HAVE MADE UP THE DATES. AS Dr. CURRY HAS METADATA FOR ALL OF HER INTERACTIONS WITH CLIENTS. IT'S called CYA in professional environments. I hope Dr. Curry is hired foe many more investigative Mental Health Studies and she has been found to have proved Depp right because ON RECORDING, JD begged not to take this into court, as it will probably ruin her reputation as a B list Actress. He was still looking out for her new career as he has known of the cheater and liar and manipulation he witnessed.
Even the few times she did remember to pause and pretend like she's thinking about it, she's not in her feelings at all or really thinking back and reflecting anything. It's an embarrassingly fake "uhm" and an exaggerated scrunched up "thinking face" like what a little kid would do. No wonder her career never took off, she's really a terrible actor.
@@aussiebaka5363 true... I am so interested in the ratings on these channels, we dohave CourtTv (journalist who sits with AH PR guy in Court/ & leans AH) on our services, and I believe it is on Dish Network not Cable we have in Las Vegas. I am anxious to see clips not the whole act. WRAP GIFT WAS FROM END OF MOVIE. It's another thing, Qualudes aren't made anymore that I know of. Js, serious question, the horse gift her dad and JD planned, umm DID HER PARENT'S ADDICTION GROOM HER TO... find rich guys? Step by step up to billionaire who may have been trolling JD by cheating in his PENTHOUSE, then they fight over embryos, then she has surrogate to keep her figure. Another DR. Curry explanation. Sheesh.
As a DV/SA survivor I have to comment and I have to express how triggered I was- with ANGER for all of us(male and female) who are REAL victims. I have never experienced so much anger, almost hatred for someone I have never met. The description was like out of a novel or movie script “all i could do was look at the carpet and think how did I never notice how dirty it was??” Then afterwards in the car “ I could only focus on my breath on the window in the car”… my abuser would never let me leave after a beating. Does LA get that cold in March where you would see your breath? Anyways- I’m a DV/SA victim of severe abuse and I have blacked out most of the actual events- what I remember the most is the next day when I was so sore and in pain- how bad my head hurt, how much the bruises hurt, the sore throat from being choked. Trying to get the knots out of my hair from being grabbed by the hair and it being pulled out and knotted,how I was going to cover my swollen eyes from crying to go to work or what excuse I was going to use this time because it was such a bad beating there were marks I could not cover up. She said the punch didn’t hurt- that’s the one thing you remember - the sting and surprise of the first hit and how it radiates through your head and you see black… then I would disassociate and block the rest out. I have never ever heard from anyone from my DV groups ever describe DV like this- it was like a bad novel or lifetime movie script. And a commonality among victims is apologizing repeatedly like we caused it and it was our fault- never have I prided myself on being strong and sticking up for myself- I would apologize excessively to make it stop and be filled with shame and fear. I’m concerned because most of the jury is men ( only 3 women) and I’m scared they might fall for this BS- b/c smart men like JD and Elon did. Johnny displays behavior of a victim- AH acts like an abuser. You recall the emotions, the feelings afterwards because during the moment you’re in fight or flight and your brain will literally protect you and you will black out the beating. You will remember bits and pieces- almost like when you’ve drank a lot of alcohol and you’re not in a complete blackout but only remember parts. I have never focused on the f&cking dirty carpet. If anything I remember the look on his face, the sound of his voice, the stun and pain of being hit. I would never say it didn’t hurt. Especially being punched in the face repeatedly WITH THOSE RINGS- her face would be so cut up she wouldn’t be able to leave the house. Her story is so fake. Her acting is so TERRIBLE, it’s worse than I ever thought it could be- and she is supposed to be an actress. I truly hate her for the mockery she is making of real abusers. I HATE her for what she has done to Johnny. Johnny behaves like a victim, AH behaves like a gaslighting abuser. When JD testified I noticed I was holding my breath because I was believing him and I felt it. Lastly- I don’t know of anyone who told people so soon (and conveniently both of those people are deceased), I especially did not tell my mom because I didn’t want her to worry. Lastly I didn’t tell anyone because I was threatened if I did he would kill my family. And what he was doing to me I believed him he would follow through. I was also only 17 and he was 5 years older and I stayed for 5 years. The cops were called many times by neighbors and back then things were different, we didn’t have Me Too, when they came I would lie and take the blame. The only way people ended up finding out was because it continued to escalate and the injuries became so severe I could not hide it and I couldn’t lie it away anymore. She is a much worse actor than I thought. Also a common trait in abused individuals is shame and embarrassment. I certainly would not be staring straight at the jury confidently and definitely at my abuser like she has been throughout the trial. I would be staring down at my hands in shame. Still to this day I know I would. It doesn’t go away. I felt like I was watching a Lifetime movie. She is a reprehensible human being. Her lies are enraging. The anger I feel is palpable. For the mental, emotional, physical and continuous abuse TO THIS DAY Johnny deserves to win. HE was pushed to reactive abuse the doctor tried to protect AH with, NOT HER. Even if you don’t believe PLEASE pray for victory for Johnny and his family . The BS about his jealousy of the way she dressed and blaming him not getting jobs- he was with Winona Ryder, an actress, his partner of 14 years Vanessa who is a singer, model and said she NEVER was abused by him and SHOCKED by the allegations, dated Kate Moss at one time the top model in the world who did basically nude Calvin Klein campaigns. To hear her repeatedly call him twice her age and creepy when you KNOW she pursued him just as much if it more- to further her career. Tried to act like she didn’t know who JD was 🙄🙄🙄 AND MOST IMPORTANTLY- trying to act stunned when she was hit “ I know you don’t slap people! I know you don’t come back from that- how could this happen to ME? I went to health class- I know how this goes.. “. HOW ABOUT YOU MENTION YOU KNOW HOW IT GOES BECAUSE YOU WERE ARRESTED FOR HITTING YOUR EX WIFE, YOU BEAT YOUR SIZE TO THE POINT SHE WAS COVERED IN BRUISES AND THERE ARE PICTURES AND WITNESSES, YOU HIT YOUR MOTHER, YOU SPIT IN YOUR EX ASSISTANT FACE, VERBALLY ABUSED HER AND STOLE HER S/A STORY, and now we all know what YYOU DID TO JOHNNY, you repulsive monster. I pray you pay for the mockery you are making of real victims and the torture you’ve put people through and continue to abuse!
I agree with you completely! I am so sorry for what you have endured and I can also relate with some of it. I don't believe AH suffered ANY abuse from JD. Her lies and fakery only serve to cause someone to side-eye the next victim telling their account of abuse. She is an embarrassment to women!!!
I hope you are doing better and much love to anyone who has gone through any abuse ❤️ I know for everyone it is different, when I had my stuff going on I do remember focusing on things to try to dissociate, but I know it’s not as common. For me, I was always told to stop talking or making any noise after anything happened and I was afraid so I would try to focus on things outside the car window or anything in my room that could take any attention away from making any noises of pain or anything, but that was something I was hyper focused about. I completely agree that she sounds and acts like she read this out of a book the way she remembers and *conveniently* doesn’t remember things that are very important. I totally understand dissociating but there’s a certain amount of things that you can NOT forget no matter how much you try. Iv been concussed, iv been blacked out, but there are just some things you do not forget, you sit there after and go through every single thing multiple times that had happened to make sure you are even making sense because of how much you doubt yourself. And the fact that she has NOTHING as proof that she was injured… mine was only discovered by an officer on accident, I tried covering it up, there is no way you could cover all those injuries and say.. go on a tv show the next day with no visible swelling or discoloring, believe me, I have tried every trick, that’s not how that works!
I'm so sorry that happened to you and I'm glad you got out. I completely agree with you. even years out of my abusive relationship I'm still scared to talk about it. she's such an awful person for doing this
Such is the case with strong, persistent, and deep rooted personality traits such as personality disorders. I'm not saying that we should just blindly trust Dr Curry - she was hired by Depp's team, after all - but I agree with you that seeing this testimony and behaviour her description feels eerily accurate. It really reinforces that case for me.
1:11:37 Rewatching this again, I have a theory. I think she kept trying to drive home the point about the "dirty carpet" because in HER mind, the more details she included, the more believable it was going to be. She thought, "if I can give details about everything that was around me, they are going to know I am telling the truth because how else could I know the carpet was dirty unless I was close to it?". But in her case, the devil WASN'T in the details. The details she brought forth were SO erroneous and inconsequential, it actually made everything she was saying LESS believable.
I can't IMAGINE how many hours.she spent in front of the mirror trying to look like a little girl from Texas 🙄 That's the problem with abusive people.....they are incredibly charming.. like a spider weaving a web.
They are most definitely charming. My ex is loved by my whole family even though he was abusive to me. My aunt once asked “how come he isn’t the way he is around us all the time?”
@@blahxblahxblah100 Once upon a time....I knew a guy who could lie.....like his sister accused him of stealing a game system. He cried to me....not just shed a year, but a deep sobbing cry that came from his gut about how his sister had issues and has always been hateful towards him. He SWORE on his life he didn't do it. That cry....sobbing heart breaking cry. I would have bet my LIFE....and I've known liars and grew up in a very abusive household......but I would have BET MY LIFE...there was NO WAY he was lying. The next morning when he went to work his sister showed up at my door. She said "let's go....I need you to see something. You NEED to come with me". I don't know why....but I went. We walked 2 blocks to the local pawn shop where she had the guy pull up the surveillance camera footage....and sure enough...there he was....pawning the game system. Once you peel back the first layer of that onion.....holy God the things you slowly start to find out. What these types of people are capable of. It LITERALLY blows your mind. The genuine, heartfelt, deep emotion....looking right in your face and lying....HOW?? They will create entire scenarios to back up a lie. Steal money....then call police, get a business card, file a false report saying THEY were robbed to cover up the fact that they stole it. The lengths liars like Amber will go through to back up their story is truely terrifying.
I spent today feeling like I was watching someone practicing lines for an audition. There wasn't a single moment where she managed to draw me in and trigger an empathetic emotional response, which makes it impossible for me to believe that she had any true emotional attachment to her portrayal of anything that she narrated.
Just to play devils advocate, it could be indicative of disassociating, not showing emotion. Some tell the “story” as a story and stay disconnected as a coping mechanism. BUT as an abuse survivor who does utilize this coping mechanism her testimony felt like watching a poorly acted Lifetime movie, like she watched videos of DV survivors and tried so hard to emulate them.
So strange... as someone with some amount of experience, I thought I would be swayed emotionally a bit here or there, but I felt the same... And she's far too involved for me to feel this was just some dissociative quality on the retelling; she just doesn't seem to _feel_ connected to the emotions being portrayed. Like watching a movie with a court scene where the actor just isn't managing to make me forget its all a movie, eh? :|
Dr. Curry said in her report, she has conversations that focus on inane things, qnd fills her conversations with fillers without focusing on the important details.
@@shellykeykens638 I have also suffered both childhood and relationship abuse, and I just didn't feel anything genuine in almost anything that she said involving JD. From beginning to end it all seemed like she was reciting a script, and it felt very much like you described - like watching a poorly acted Lifetime movie. Admittedly, though, all of the abuse that I suffered was psychological, so I have no reference for the differences in that experience - my abuser early in life was my mother and she waited until I was physically larger than her to decide to add physical abuse to the equation, which she decided not to attempt more than once.
As a former victim of DV, I can guarantee you that you will NEVER EVER EVER give him a knife with “until death do us part”… as is what you fear on daily bases! When I escaped him strangling me, since it happened in the kitchen, my main concern was “kitchen=lots of knifes”… so I locked myself into the bathroom… This is not ROMANTIC! In fact anything that is connected to violence, of any sort, is out of question as a gift! You already have plenty! Unless you want to get yourself killed… In those situations your main concern is to survive and hope things will got better! Very bad acting if you ask me!
I love pretty knives. My husband would NEVER EVER give me one because I have a history of self harm. If someone has a history of violence toward self or others, your SO doesn't give you a fucking knife.
As I listen to her do u know what I think?.... I remember listening to an fbi/cop once, who was talking about how to detect a liar and I remember him saying that people who lie will often OVERSELL a situation with lots of extra expressive words that aren't necessary etc and that's what I'm seeing here! 🤷♀😑... If u go back to the beginning when she's talking about her upbringing then you'll see just how differently she's speaking and how it flows properly... Much more matter of fact and way less fluff words! Plus her facial expressions just do not match! 😒
I'm replaying the trial because....withdrawals. I couldn't rewatch Dr. Hughes, again. It made me so angry and so upset. I couldn't listen to her recount such atrocity and horrendous acts in such a gossipy manner. With AH, I go into auto-pilot because it sounds like play-acting - terrible, terrible play-acting. Love your energy Emily!
Anyone else keep noticing, "He kept disappearing, I didn't know where he was", Dr. Curry said she had control issues and was jealous and needed to know where he was. Also the nursing notes said," she complains of severe anxiety when he isn't in her presence".
@@miche6563 I'm just saying that if Johnny was so jealous he would show up on her sets. And harass her co stars, wouldn't there be evidence of any of that?
This is why i'd be a terrible juror. I'd be rolling my eyes throughout this entire deposition. As an actual survivor of abuse, her lies are unbelievably obvious and disturbing to me. If her clearly false allegations don't burry her career, this poor acting performance certainly will.
I don't think that people with history of abuse qualify as jurors in such cases. I believe they're not selected. There was an issue about a juror in another case who after the trial made a statement about having personal experience of abuse and that was a huge issue because he had claimed otherwise during his selection. Emily has discussed about it saying maybe they would even have to redo the trial... I don't know what happened in the end.
I'd be obviously rolling my eyes.. Shaking my head.. Sighing... Bruh staring her down with a look of contempt, thank God I wasn't called for this trial because I'd be dismissed indefinitely lmaoo💯✌🏾
10:25 Elaine says the wrong name for her client 21:30 no job was too small for her 41:33 “it was instant again” after saying how creepy he was 43:15 “it was on” 45:28 “most beautiful person in the world” “$1M” 48:48 tea, so much tea, sea of tea 52:05 tea 2 1:04:27 she talks about the blow up w/o pronouns 1:07:04 she wasn’t sure if he was using but there was a jar of coke out on the table? 1:09:54 couch/dirty carpet fight 1:10:42 “god, did he just hit me? No!” 1:12:06 seeing a man cry is “weird” 1:13:01 “I’ve seen the health class videos” 1:13:12 “I made a point to not say oh it’s ok” 1:14:57 “He said he’d rather cut his hand off” 1:19:41 “that’s why it’s not more specific I suppose” 1:20:18 leaving the bedroom and gets hit across the face fight 1:26:54 “I’d get bored” or “we’d get bored” 1:27:27 quaaludes 2:05:04 “I don’t make a big deal out of smaller injuries” 2:07:16 bruise on arm from ECB pool doors 2:16:00 “he grabs 2 small dogs” …oh…well they were their dogs… 2:19:37 “a picture I took of MY breakfast table that morning” 2:23:06 “I sent it to my bf at the time saying look at my morning 😏” 2:26:30 Amber only ate one mushroom cap 2:28:08 “do you know how many lbs of pressure it takes to break a human wrist” 2:32:54 she didn’t do coke, she was against it 2:36:33 “my dog stepped on a bee” 2:39:37 “this other thing was awful” 2:40:48 accidentally calls the good part “this thing” 2:45:07 the first & last time she did drugs with Johnny 2:46:45 she took 1 mdma & Johnny took a handful 2:50:49 she falls back on a table & catches herself on the table 2:59:18 being chocked & threatened with murder and she’s worried about her hurt feelings
Your reaction to her testimony is right on. I'm a court reporter who has seen/heard hundreds of DV, rape, CPS cases. I have never heard someone describe such traumatic experiences in this way. It's usually either one of two things: They are hyperemotional, such to the point that they cannot clearly say what it is they need to (either barely audible, talking too fast, or too choked up to get a clear thought out) OR they are completely dissociated from the trauma and state it very flatly as if it happened to someone else. NOT what Amber is doing, which is this odd inbetween of the two.
@Lorena Treichler when I talk about my abusive relationship, it's nearly 3 years but since day one most of the time I talk as though I'm talking about how I toast a slice of bread - I do not- daren't - engage with any of the feeling. It's only when something I say "catches" me and transports me, slam, right into that feeling and then I'm all over the place emotionally and trying desperately hard Not to cry - I have to stop talking until I can detach and compose myself again.
I feel like Johnny seemed very “removed” from the trauma when he testified - monotone for the most part, a few sarcastic/dark humor statements as a form of coping, really taking time to think through and remember details and feelings This is how I typically speak of my trauma and I NEVER look at my abuser I can’t even see him on social media it’s so triggering I had to block him we ended things 10 years ago I have been with my current partner 8 years (almost 2 years married) and I saw my abusive partner at an engagement party about a year ago and I STILL couldn’t look at him. I’m a clinical social worker I see a lot of me and my clients in the way Johnny talks vs Amber
The only time I've ever been able to say anything about my own s3xual a$$ault experiences is when i made a joke of it. I had to say it really fast. It helped that I was washing dishes amd they weren't actually I'm the same room as me and it was very briefonly one sentence not even talking about the whole situation. In regards to my physical and mental abus3 I agree with what you say it's very hard to talk about. Not as hard at the s3xual stuff though. I haven't talked about it bearly at all and when I have I never once actually described most of it. I kept it very vague because I just couldn't get into it.
No tears. She recovers seamlessly without pause. The body language guys are going to have a field day with this. Wonder if the landlord will testify to anything....
Legit, when I lost my shit in therapy, it took a lot of heavy, deep breaths, to calm down and lots of involuntary waterworks before that - all talking about things in a more general manner than they're talking about "her story", and from 9/10 years prior. PTSD doesn't "get used to it", it's an open wound until you can completely process it and talk about it objectively OR, if you uncover it and you're not healed it will show involuntarily.
😂 I was thinking the same... This was my opinion on this testimony.. As I listen to her do u know what I think?.... I remember listening to an fbi/cop once, who was talking about how to detect a liar and I remember him saying that people who lie will often OVERSELL a situation with lots of extra expressive words that aren't necessary etc and that's what I'm seeing here! 🤷♀😑... If u go back to the beginning when she's talking about her upbringing then you'll see just how differently she's speaking and how it flows properly... Much more matter of fact and way less fluff words! Plus her facial expressions just do not match! 😒
So I'm a survivor and I am really taken aback by the positive way she talks about the start of their relationship. On the rare occasion that I actually speak of my own experience (only to therapists), I literally CANNOT talk about the "nice" things my abuser did without mentioning how surprising and strange it felt to be love bombed, and saying how there were red flags and uncomfortable feelings that I pushed to the side...
I'm perplexed that AH took a photo of her bruised arm BUT DIDNT DOCUMENT the back hand hit with rings?!?! Surely with blood spatter she'd have damage to her face.
I saw a tiktok last evening (after her 2nd day) regarding that bruised arm photo. Their observation was in regards to her hair color being dark. I did not confirm this information but, they observed that the only time that AH has had dark hair was a few years prior to her being with/meeting JD. It could be possible that that photo is from her previous marriage. Without the metadata… 🤷🏻♀️
Aside from the backhand, what about when he elegedly penetrated her with the bottle, of which she claimed she didn't know if he was using the broken end or not of which was never reported 😳. (I believe that testimony was after this, but could be wrong)
Almost as if she's never been hit by a man wearing 3 or 4 huge rings, not even once! She clearly has no idea the kind of injuries that would result from the horrific beatings she describes.
@@suppleleopard I noticed that as well. Amber had BLONDE hair for audition for The Rum Diaries. I don't believe a word she says. No emotions, no tears, and lots of details however it's directed towards the wrong thing. She's sad one minute crocodile tears the next. Goes from sad to ice cold in a matter of seconds.
Why is there no bruise, marks, scrapes on her face from that picture from backhanding her with rings? That's what caught me off guard from that picture.
Here's Amber proving to all how brilliant Dr Curry is! She is putting on quite the performance! Over describing and explaining are classic signs of lying! This is the best I've seen her act!
I am a child abuse victim and my mother is a domestic violence victim. And I also worked for my local government in domestic violence and mental health and substance abuse. And I can tell you 100% without a doubt that Amber is the abuser and lying and Johnny is the victim. Amber does not exhibit typical behaviours of a real domestic violence victim. Also, I can 100% tell you without a doubt that Amber is ACTING here and not doing a good job of it.
Couldn't agree more, I suffered similar as a child, and over 20 years later I still can't talk about this in the way she does. I can remember feelings and where things happened and she hasn't mentioned anything
She told her story like it was the plot of a lifetime movie. It’s like she was romanticizing it all. Which is incredibly disturbing and insulting to real victims. Her story was cringy, but not for the reasons she wanted it to be.
@@moni13000 I noticed it too. I am really struggling today with Amber's obviously fake testimony. She is so obviously lying and faking. It is triggering to me and I am so upset to see anyone lie about being a victim of abuse and violence when people like me who really is a survivor of abuse are real victims.
I think its brilliant that a female attorney will cross examine her. She can be way harsher with Amber and she will not get away with the ‘poor little girl attacked by a man again’ act.
Oh please tell me the cute young lawyer gets to treat AH just like her lawyers treated JD team? You know she will be pissed off if this pretty lady drills the crap out of her.
As a woman who actually went through abuse I would NEVER compliment the man who hit me by saying “I knew I had to leave the best thing that ever happened to me”, how the hell could the same man who slapped you also be in your opinion the best thing to happen to you?? Even if you felt that way about him before all of that would have stopped immediately and you could never even fix your mouth to give him that type of honor after he hit you. And when my ex hit me to the floor and stood over me before trying to choke me out the last damn thing I thought about was “oh the carpet is so dirty”. In those moments you are fearing your life. You don’t know if you will die, you don’t even notice your surroundings because it feels unreal like a dream. For the person you trust the most that you think will protect you to turn into a monster is the craziest thing to experience, it’s mind boggling because they become like a stranger in those moments. Those thoughts of the look in their eyes and whether they will kill you is stronger than anything around you. You don’t have time to dwell on your surroundings. Everything is fuzzy and fear takes over. Do you think someone being dragged outside in dirt to be killed is thinking “damn the dirt is nasty” noooo I’ve been dragged down a dirty hill by my legs before and it’s like an out of body experience. You can’t believe it’s really happening to you and that you might actually die this way. I can literally tell y’all this woman is a damn liar. If she was ever really abused she would realize how stupid she sounded talking about the damn carpet in that moment. That’s what happens when you have to describe a situation based on what you see on tv, she a joke. And for her to not realize that real woman are watching her that actually go through this and know what it really feels like is crazy. I pray one of the jurors has experienced abused before to see right through her lies. This is disgusting!
Her saying he was the best thing that ever happened to her is her telling the truth. Because it’s true. He boosted her career and gave her a superstar lifestyle. All the rest is lies. I believe she was insanely jealous of the admiration people had of him to the point of rage and violence.
Yes! 💯 Your terrified not worrying about how dirty the carpet is or the dog on the window. Your thinking how am I getting out of this alive or am I gonna die. Trying not to get injured. Trying to get away. Or play possum so they don't continue. Your not worrying about the carpet filth
She portrays herself as this kind, loving, innocent victim, doesn’t align with the audio and video recordings. She’s nasty, antagonistic and manipulative in all the real evidence. If she were truthful at all she would admit to all the shit she did in these fake scenes. But because they’re fake she basically does NOTHING. She sent him a text saying he’s a dead beat dad, I doubt the real amber heard would be so kind during these fictional scenes of abuse.
@@imaginempress3408 it's the people who are smarter about this that get away with it...the fact that she keeps making her stories more and more outrageous every time is the only reason she's getting exposed to the world
I wish Johnny had a retoucher as a witness. I’ve retouched celebs and her arguments about makeup bugs me SO MUCH. Our screens are huge and show more colors than you can possibly print even. Our image files are annoyingly big with so much data. So I am PRETTY SURE Amber could have asked for an original file from a shoot and show a busted lip, bruise or swelling on a RAW file in 800% on a retouch screen even with lipstick or colour correcting foundation. If she would have wanted to. And what about her legs, arms, rest of her body. Despite makeup and lighting. We see EVERYTHING because we need to choose how to do our work. We even look what’s a pore or mole or scar, other skin things etc because we don’t want to airbrush celebs (although sometimes that’s what people imagine we do) . This is SO annoying. She can’t even hand in her shitty phone pics.
This needs more likes, this is the type of commentary that actually shows the falsehood and lack of evidence in her story. There's a lot tangible evidence that can be brought in on cross and interesting points like this about how data can be used in a case like this. Before I begin a tangential rant, quick questions how well can someone or an industry conceal those things using the apps JD might want to bring up or other technology? I saw some photos floating around (not sure if verified) of her modeling and the official photos didn't show a bruised/battered hand but fan ones showed her knuckles looked pretty bloody (again these may be fakes I bring up to illustrate a point) could you hide those sorts of injuries? And also, how easily could you create those sorts of injuries with the tech and makeup we have? Plus, how long do you guys typically hold on to some of those photographs? Because the lawsuits started in 2019 so from them on AHs team might have been able to look for those files but they haven't gotten any, plus with how many photos she's referenced and videos you'd think she'd be the type of person to collect any photographic evidence like that because she did it other times. Final question, if you guys have a client who's frequently getting injuries would you be able to remember those patterns and would you ask questions if it seemed like someone else was causing them? I feel like if my client kept showing up with injuries peppered on her I'd ask a few questions and likely end up a witness in a trial like this. Tangential rant, not necessary just my personal side opinion: I'm getting sick of these fake body language eXpErTs that will twist anything any which ways (e.g. if Amber looks at the jury too much she's trying to truth convince therefore lying, if she doesn't look at the jury enough she's also lying) makes team Johny look like they're just making false assumptions about how people behave and forgetting that people express differently so absent an ACTUAL PSYCHOLOGICAL EXPERT (e.g. Dr. Curry coming in and performing ACTUAL PSYCHOLOGICAL TESTS) the claims don't usually hold water. What the expert witness actually said and statements like yours are actually useful unlike claims made on evidence you could twist to make the exact opposite argument. I get really frustrated with people who make arguments like "she isn't acting appropriate for a victim" bc plenty of ACTUAL VICTIMS (unlike AH) actually do act in ways others may not think or differently than other DV victims. End of rant.
@@Althea-42 Thank you! And good questions. Yes I actually have to admit it could be tricky to find a photographer that would like to hand over an unretouched file. Unfortunately retouch is very frowned upon. But I would really try to ask. Maybe someone would be nice and want to help out because it’s a severe situation. But up to them who took the pictures. The photographer owns the pictures and as far as I know usually archive their work their whole life. I don’t own the pictures and I wouldn’t be allowed to show them without consent. I am freelance so I can’t speak for everyone but I wouldn’t be in a position to do anything if I saw black eyes and stuff like that I guess. I don’t know the people I retouch. And I have never been in that position fortunately. But I certainly know I would see things, especially cuts, scars, swelling even with makeup.Inconsistencies basically. Unless it’s some very blurry rare artsy shoot or very far away but with celebrities it tends to be super sharp mostly. Shoots are long and in different locations. Makeup can rub off also and need to be reapplied. Sometimes I have to fill in things like the lipstick myself. You don’t want an empty distracting patch on a portrait. I’ve been at lots of shoots but for other reasons than editing so I’ve seen that side too. I don’t even think body makeup is much of a thing even. It’s not a common thing atleast. You can basically do anything with a photo and make it look natural. Which is why we try not to overdo it. I often hear people think retouchers make people look skinny and fake when that’s not at all what’s happening. Usually it’s colour stuff, cleaning clothes, shadows… making it look balanced. Every image and person also has some individual things to fix but it differs. But everything CAN be done if you want to. It’s funny because just talking publicly about it feels like I am revealing state secrets. The retoucher is never credited in the magazine :)) . I never meet the people I retouch. I’m usually just in communication with the photographer. I don’t know if they would ask the person in front of them if they saw anything or something on their files. I assume I would mention it to the photographer if it was super clear but I’ve never had to no. But yeah… someone agreeing to actually give an original file could be hard if the photographer felt it could have consequences for themselves somehow. But getting a photographer who shot her during this time or retoucher (prefferably one who worked on her face) to witness and explain how it works should not be impossible… As this is my work I just can’t with these pics lol. AND she must have a decent normal camera, she can afford it. But nope… we got this. Blurry Iphone selfies 😵💫😏
@@annag176 thank you for those really in depth answers! I love hearing about other people's professions, I think in my questions I kind of conflated retouching/editing with application so sorry for any confusion and for answering so well. For a trial they could easily subpoena retouched photos versus originals, you could be charged with obstruction of justice if you don't. And they wouldn't ask for all the photos probably just all the ones of Amber Heard and the lawyers could go back through all of her modeling agencies and ask who was on the photo editing, retouching, photography, makeup contracts and get witness statements and photos that way. So either her lawyers were incompetent (which isn't outside of the realm of possibility) and turned down an obvious opportunity to get photos from an unbiased third party or they started down the process and didn't find anything. TL;DR I think the photos she brought are sus and her lack of photos is also sus. Can't wait for cross.
I'm a former make-up artist, and I am a good one. You can't conceal a black eye. You can minimize it. I worked at a shop right next to a courthouse and the county jail and people including lawyers had me cover shit up, hickeys, beatings, bruising, etc, but make-up has its limits. Especially with swelling. And no one palette is going to do the trick. You need a bunch of products. And you would need to be an expert to do the make up on yourself in a car. It's such a bag of lies.
I was a victim of physical child abuse at the hands of my father for many years. I am not one to not believe people. But there is nothing about her that comes across genuine to me.
@@323azteca Yeah she says she learned about DV from health class videos? lol. I had an abusive parent and it's weird to me how she talks so fondly about her dad. Very very weird. I mean, I get the attachment to a caregiver and that love being complicated, but the way she talks about him, you'd never think he was abusive. I haven't ever met anyone who spoke with that kind of endearment towards an abusive parent. It's usually very negative and filled with dislike. You can tell for sure they wouldn't enjoy being in the same room with that person. Amber sounds like she wants to give him a hug.
I went into it with an open mind - I’m team no-one! I thought the childhood stories seemed pretty credible as well as most of her early relationship with Johnny. I do think she was more interested in him than she let on (he’s famous and rich and she was a struggling actor - who wouldn’t be into him?!). I could let that go though, because I think it’s human nature to slant things a bit towards you (I think Johnny did that as well). But, the first hit testimony? Wow. I actually felt uncomfortable in my stomach watching it and wanted to fast-forward. Maybe it actually happened, but the way she told it - looking at the jury, no tears, just narrating with small details to add veracity, but not describing her emotions, was really, really weird. I don’t think that’s going to work well with the jury - I think some of them will have a gut-reaction that something isn’t quite right.
if she was so against him drinking and he was so violent when drinking why in the hell did she ask him to buy some wine on his way home for her bday party?!? i wouldn't buy a knife for anyone i feared and i damn sure wouldn't ask an alcoholic that i so desperately wanted to be clean, to buy alcohol of any kind.
I’m ten years sober, and know a lot of people in recovery. In virtually all of the cases, their loved ones did anything they could to keep them as far away from alcohol as possible. Interestingly, the only exceptions for this are people who were in relationships with people who also had substance abuse issues…in which cases the drinking/drug abuse was a tool for bonding, or as a way to continue their own addictions. This seems very telling to me.
Amber seemed genuine when she spoke about trying to escape her hometown, that's how she eased the jury into her narrative. I also believe that both of them lived in a 'bubble',as she put it.But I don't buy her projection as this naïve, gullible little girl...it soon started to feel like an audition monologue...And when she said that the physical abuse started when she inquired about his tattoo...so you have this intense, intimate,all consuming chemistry/love and you never bothered to ask your partner about his tattoo before?! We all know about his tattoo,girl bye.
I think its strange how she can go from being SO upset and "crying" (with absolutely NO TEARS) to turning off the water works and continuing on with her story in a split second.... I've NEVER met a victim that would IMMEDIATELY stop crying when telling their story...
I didn’t believe ANY thing she said. The testimony was so Cringe I actually had second hand embarrassment watching her trying to Act. From the freighting facial expressions and the things she was saying. The Oscar does NOT go To Amber Heard. She has concocted the stories in her head and told the lies so many times that she believes her own lies. Im genuinely concerned for her child and having to grow up with a mother who is a lying abusive narcissist. Justice for Johnny Depp
It's so fake I just can't understand how anyone would believe it. She's trying so hard to sell it to the jury at all times which seems very strange from a "victim of abuse". And her attempts to squeeze out a single tear were just so OTT. And next second she's fine and talking totally normal again. It's just soooo weird to watch, I honestly struggle to see or connect with any real emotion in her.
My thoughts EXACTLY. Well said. AAAND her pauses in all the wrong places, along with the fraudulant long or hard swallowing...ROTTEN TOMATOES and off with her head! I CAN NOT STAND HER!!!
I love rewatching/listening to these live streams because Emily is so optimistic at the beginning and by the end she’s just over it 😂 which is 10000% understandable but I’m just like: oh girl, just wait for it! Haha
I totally agree! I frequently just listen to my favorite days in the trial like background noise. But I'm currently not at work and enjoying zooming in on Emily's face and her reactions. So enjoyable! Listening to the sidebar coverage is awesome too. I love Emily's reading of the sidebars but Chelsea Whitaker masterfully strung together Emily's streams to Emily's reading of the sidebars. If you want all sidebars, she covers all of them which I believe Emily did not do. Just a suggestion from a fellow rewatcher of this trial, and an EDB fan. 😄
I can just say personally I’ve never met a legit victim that talks about there abuse like that. It’s so second hand, like it’s a story. I have, however, met liars that speak like that.
Exactly. I've had friends talk to me abuse SA... they always, always rush it out in simple terms. I do that when I talk about my SA... there's no other way to say it really in a manner that is befitting. This is just weird.
so u think she is lying .....this happened to my husband he was ascused of ...sorry i can't say it .....but u know .....ne ways yrs later found out she lied it was her dad she covered 4 him,but the damage was done.....so this trial is personal 4 me....u think jonny will win? men need to be believed
Yes I completely agree. I have been a victim to this and never ever would I talk like that. Sexual abuse is alot different to domestic violence and no victim can talk about the Sexual abuse they have been through like this. You speak about it in terms of how you felt not like a story. The emotion is so much that it overwhelms other points in the story. I still have never fully been able to speak about my Sexual abuse even when I have wanted to. This looks like she is acting. Victims can feel other people who are also victims and I feel no relation with her and that is very telling to me. I find alot of what she says offensive. I've met liars like this and they all look the same.
When you truly go through abuse you don’t get giddy about talking about the good times. Talking about the magical times you still show sadness because you feel the pain in EVERYTHING afterwards.
My thought exactly. She was painting everything in the beginning of the relationship in too much of a positive light. If this relationship really ended in AH getting abused, the beginning of the relationship wouldn’t have been told in such a warm and fuzzy way.
Absolutely. And I was giddily in love falling under his guise. Now I can only describe that with resigned sadness - there's no romantic animation there, unlike AH's performance
I 100% agree with you When I speak about the start of my relationship with my ex-husband now I don't smile like a lovesick teen. The things that made me fall in love with him were calculated and manipulative. I always characterize it in that way when recounting my abuse story with others.
@@MeghanInnes YES things that I thought were "cute" and "romantic" at the start of my abusive relationship...I can't speak or even THINK of them like that anymore. I think of them as insidious
I was having a really hard time listening to this woman speak and I still haven't gotten through it. I came across your replay though and having you commenting and leading us through is making it easier. I appreciate you
Yep, this is borderline. She’s skipping over important details bc the real story would reflect poorly on her. Only telling the small weird details that paint her as a victim.
I don't mind little details. My SO and I had a turbulent relationship before we dated due to different things in our lives and I can remember lots of little things but not knowing the big stuff qnd having all the small ones memorized is weird
This was helpful to me the way you explained this RE BPD, my sister does the same thing. This is a huge problem bc I can't ever get the facts out of her. The sad part is, BPD is very treatable but a prerequisite if that you effin admit you have it!! I mean there are even options schema therapy and even some meds. It's so frustrating
Curry explained people with histrionic pd use flowery language to describe things with no real substance and this is how I feel with her testimony. Everything from how in love they were to the actual accounts of abuse, lots of purple prose
There’s a thing called projection. When she was talking about not being allowed to leave in arguments etc , it makes me feel like she’s taking what she did and projecting it onto Johnny.
I agree. I see her as being the instigator, the unstable one, the physically aggressive and rageful one. I feel like she has literally convinced herself that she's the victim and that he did it all to her, but that she, in fact, is the root cause of most all of the arguments that got out of control.
I, too, am surprised that projection is not mentioned as often as it seems to happen here... Was her name Dr Hughes who projected even, as if she was AH remembering her stories, uncensored, & give a testimony now w/ an bizarre "expert" twist, too? Honestly, I wish she could be restrained w/ a straight jacket & be placed into a closed institution & let the therapy begin... this way at least we could save her innocent baby daughter from damages. Enough is enough!
Was saying the same with a friend of mine, felt the beginning was genuine-ish though thought she’s say more about this ptsd childhood. But the longer she spoke the worse it felt … I was actually watching in the bus and was telling out loud “cmon!” 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
Same. Although, I thought the initial part about her growing up was nothing but a bid to try and get the jury to relate “small town innocent normal working class girl”. Suppose it’s easy to forget how clever & manipulative she actually is, she ruined one of the biggest Hollywood actors of all time.
@Maria Baja I believe that! She is an actress but Johnny’s testimony sounded just like truth lol however much he was telling it to us in a story telling way… glad we get a break from her! Can’t wait for her to be crossed 🤐
As a woman of DV only way I can handle this stuff is by watching you cover it. Its hard enough to get people to belive us and on top of that there are people like amber making it even harder.
@@agneag Well she legit almost recorded everything and there is nothing on the tape that suggests Johnny hit her or abused her!! On the other hand there videos and recordings out there proving that she abused Johnny. I don’t know though, everything she saying could be a lie
I'm rewatching this and I am genuinely so upset the camera was on JD when AH made her infamous "my dog stepped on a bee...." comment and weird facial expression lol. I would have LOVED to see Emily's live reaction to that!!
i don’t think i’ve ever been this confused about anyone telling a story. ever. this feels so disjointed and like she’s doing everything to point every finger at him. like the abuse towards him was his fault. i’m so frustrated omg
The timelines are all over. She never misses an opportunity to paint him a pathetic drunk. This is not hitting as authentic for me and I hate not believing a “victim.” Time will tell.
Talking about him losing control of his bowels? I believe that’s setting up for the “grumpy”? Gonna try to blame that on him. That’s gotta be the most embarrassing part of all this that she shit IN HER OWN BED !! On his side, as a message to him. He never saw it in person, only a photo.
same I'm very sensitive to abuse stories because of my own history but a lot of perpetrators think of themselves as victims like if you just acted perfect i wouldn't do xyz that's how she comes across to me and i think he was being reactive I've seen too much abuse dynamics in my life
My wife is a victim of abuse by former partners. She would never be able to speak so easily of her abuse. Even telling me is difficult enough she would never be able to speak so openly in court without many more pauses caused by crying. She's told me she would be having panic attacks. She has legitimate PTSD, unlike Ms. Heard. My wife isn't the only victim I know, unfortunately, as abuse is too common.. none of them believe Ms. Heard. They don't feel she is one of them.
I dated a person after decades in an abusive relationship. I couldn't talk abt it easily and it definitely negatively impacted my ability to have a healthy intimate relationship.
Spot on comment. I was sitting here thinking, "If I had to tell my story aloud, what would it sound like?" First, I know I would have to pause a lot and think about where to start...also, give a lot more detail.
Here’s a problem, she is not pausing and looking off to think… there are zero signs of PTSD here. Zero. There is no behavior associated with recall when she’s speaking about violence
exactly. its the behavior of someone who rehearsed a monologue to delivery with the expectation everyone was gonna listen. she doesnt even realize that going on like that just adds evidence AGAINST her, shes so wrapped up in convincing the jury. this is 100% about her and her ego and revenge against Johnny, not about being a true victim of DV.
@@johannawigg6921 LOL you're a fool who has no idea what the context of that video was.. Take yourself to a hospital to get your brain checked out; you're delusional, lmao. Everyone knows why he was angry that day, his managers were stealing from him and his mother died, she even lauighed at the end of the video, man some of you females are a different breed. Liberal mindset. Anyone can fake wincing, anyone can look up the symptoms of PTSD as well, wincing being one of them..
her narrative is changing. the recordings of her that we’re all well aware of display her saying that she wants him to “stay and fight” and yet after the 15 minute break, she keeps saying that she was trying to walk away and diffuse. definitely gives off a vibe that she’s trying to copy what depp was saying
I was in a relationship once where everything my abuser was doing, he would turn around and accuse me of doing…outrageous stuff, all the way down to the small stuff. I eventually began to identify his unfounded accusations as admissions of his own bad behavior but it was a real psychological nightmare. He was so charming. I think this is called projection and it’s common among manipulators. Her testimony feels a lot like that to me.
Also, having up close experience with a person with personality disorders, sometimes they can tell elaborate, expressive stories (often pulled from pieces of truth from their own lives or the lives of others) with such authenticity that you can almost feel it. It's as if they believe fully their own lies, and maybe they do. There's also an arrogance there. They have all the confidence in the world that people believe them because they perceive themselves as so much more clever than the rest of us. That's my personal experience growing up. When I see it out in the wild, I run. Those personality types are still uncomfortable for me to be around. I would not be a good juror in this case because of it. I hope the jury is able to wade through all of this to find the pieces of truth.
@@Angelface11 As I watch this, I get the sense that she has an elevated opinion of her acting ability. She appears to be a person that gets a real thrill from fooling people. Just my opinion. I'm concerned how the jury is taking this. If they don't have experience with this type of personality, it's so easy to be drawn in.
Totally agree. I have also experienced life with a person who has narcissistic personality disorder. What you say about their taking pieces of things from other peoples’ lives is completely true. I think they often believe their own lies.
My father is a narcissist and has bipolar personality disorder and he tells stories identical to her. I completely agree when you said it’s almost like she believes her own stories and absolutely she totally does
So interesting how she never shares her substance abuse. She never includes that part in her testimony or even how she’d get mad and yell and hit. There was one part that was very telling when she started with “and I threw..” and then she stopped herself. Emily caught that part, very telling. I tried to give her the benefit of the doubt but she is not sounding believable. I also think she absolutely cheated on him. She only ever said “I never slept with him” in reference to one person. Seems like when she “reiterates” Johnny’s words that she’s actually sharing what she was saying and her tone not his. The part about him ripping her dress… maybe that did happen and I’m sure that made her mad but does she admit to ever getting mad? No. The whole “cavity search” part was straight acting I’m sorry can’t buy it. No tears.
As someone who's been in drug recovery, she displays the classic downplay of her addiction and has this rationalization that her substance abuse isn't "as bad as" Johnny; therefore she's not an "addict". When in reality, it doesn't matter how out of control your drug use is, because addiction is different for everyone. Not only that, Amber and her therapist mentioned going to Al-Anon to help her cope. Well, if that were true, Amber knows damn well that she wasn't being supportive, kept enabling his use, and wasn't giving him consequences for crossing boundaries. It's like she wasn't doing anything that you're supposed to do when you go to Al-Anon. I don't believe that she ever did go, or stopped immediately after she heard what she was _really_ supposed to do with someone who is in active addiction. They would have told her the following: *1. IF he's truly abusive, they'd tell her to BREAK UP and minimize contact; at least move out if she wants to stay and "help him in recovery".* (AA, NA and all the recovery fellowships have resources to help in these situations) *2.- Get herself into recovery for her drug use, to be a better partner./ Get a sponsor in Al-Anon **_at least_** (and work their 12steps).* Because partners and family also have to work on themselves and how they interact with the addict (many people don't want to do any work and just put it all on the addict). 3.- *Stop using, and not allow any type of substances in their home* (But since she doesn't think she's an addict, she wouldn't stop, not even to support him in staying clean) 4.- *Stop hanging out with people who use drugs and alcohol or don't support the recovery* (clearly that didn't happen, nor did she think it was an option for her). This behavior of hers in terms of 'helping Johnny get clean and stay clean"; is the reason why I don't believe for a second that she cared about him. Because helping him meant she would have needed to stop her substance abuse, and that was clearly not an option. Like a TRUE ADDICT, she prioritized her own drug use over anyone else's wellbeing. So these arbitrary lines of "I was against doing cocaine or opiates" are completely BS if she's getting high and drunk anyway, it still doesn't help Johnny stay clean or sober.
As I listen to her do u know what I think?.... I remember listening to an fbi/cop once, who was talking about how to detect a liar and I remember him saying that people who lie will often OVERSELL a situation with lots of extra expressive words that aren't necessary etc and that's what I'm seeing here! 🤷♀😑... If u go back to the beginning when she's talking about her upbringing then you'll see just how differently she's speaking and how it flows properly... Much more matter of fact and way less fluff words! Plus her facial expressions just do not match! 😒
Did you also hear the bit when she was talking about waking up and seeing her breakfast table covered in booze and D's? She started to say "I wouldn't be able to talk my way out of this one" but stopped. Ooh, also, she said "I would leave...", paused, caught herself...and then said "It's difficult to explain but I would go to another place" because she realised that the audio and her testimony was that JD would leave! She was about to say she would leave after a fight when that might be logically what someone who was abused would do, try to get away, but we all know she wants to stay and fight it pit and hated when JD left! The recovery from being ij "tears" to fine and back again is astounding and I hear NO actual tears (I'm legally blind). I've found so many inconsistencies and I'm just at the final break!
@@RhiWJ also the night before was when the grabbing bruise was but also were he punched her face at least 5 times but the swelling/bruising (her cheek bone would have been fratured at least) magically was gone when she went with him to set where she stood right next to crew.
Replay crew here and I started laughing when she said that she had no idea what the tattoo said. My 13 year old daughter asked why, I explained that it was all over the news when he did it and got it changed, and very well known. My daughter said "even normal people Google the person they are dating or interested in. there is no way she didn't Google Johnny Depp when she first found out she'd be working with him in 08, how can she claim she didn't know what the tattoo said."
“I don’t complain about small injuries…” says the woman who fully stopped an interview and reprimanded someone off screen for opening and closing a door too many times, making the interviewer restart the interview. And the picture with the bruise on her arm- her face is in frame! No bruises! No redness! All lies!
The way this Satan bitc h treats people is disgusting. I can't imagine how bad it must be to be inside her head if this is what she portrays on the outside. Also, I find it odd that the only people she talked to or that saw the abuse are the 2 people that are dead now... how very convenient
She's trying too hard, and if I were on the jury and she were looking at me so intensely and telling these stories, I would be squirming big time. It seems so fake to me and looking that much at the jury is very awkward.
Exactly! The overacting and overselling is crazy. Johnny seemed so natural and believable up there but she just seems so fake, and her attempts to cry and look upset make me uncomfortable. I can't see any real emotion in her, just contorting her face.
@@rudecanadian4067 hehe that why on the beginning she told she have o problem with the words, that later she can change the sentence when she will accidentally tell truth
Annnnnd she’s lost me completely. I’ve been trying to play devil’s advocate, but the way she’s talking is wild. It’s like she grabbed a textbook on DV and started to recite it.
When you actually cry, it becomes difficult to speak, you pause, your voice does that embarrassing high cracking thing, there are tears, you have to blow your nose a lot, your eyes get puffy......I see these signs are mysteriously absent...
I'm like 99% sure the "dirty carpet" line is actually from a movie or TV show. My brain came to a screeching halt the minute she started that portion because I already knew what she was going to say - because I had already heard it before. It was very jarring...especially because I've been spending the last hour trying to figure out where it's from now 😩
You mentioned it in the live stream but the fact that Amber is claiming that Johnny PUMMLED HER FREAKING FACE WITH HIS FISTS in the same incident where he "grabbed her arm" and left that little bruise, yet the ONLY THING she took a picture of was the bruise on her arm AND NOT her mauled face is just more proof that she is full of sh!t. If something like that TRULY happened, you aren't going to document the damn ARM BRUISE, you are going to take a picture of your extremely battered face.
Not only that but she said he also hit her with his rings on! Those big rings he wears would take a chunk of your cheek off and leave massive bruises for weeks!! And she has no photos? She's surrounded by staff, bodyguards, friends and no one saw the marks these big ass rings would have left??
If he pinned her down like she says, then there should be a bruise on the inside of her arm from his thumb pressing down. And why didn't she take pictures of her bruised face? He supposedly slapped her multiple times so there should be bruises. The bruise doesn't look like fingers grabbing her. Looks like she bumped into something sharp. I don't see any bruises or cuts or swelling on her face in that picture. Her face looks perfectly fine. And again...why didn't she leave him? She had money and was a working actress. If I had the money she had, connections, support from friends and family, and no kids to feed, I would have left ASAP and never looked back. Makes no sense.
You could see her face in that photo and it looked completely fine. She started by saying she threw something at JD and he grabbed her to protect himself (before "correcting" herself by adding he was hitting her). Grabbing someone like that to protect yourself from having objects thrown at you seems like an appropriate response, not abuse.
She said he hit or slapped her several tiimes that's not "pummled her freaking face with his fists". All y'all who want to accuse Heard of lying, exaggerating, or twisting the story, maybe you should take a look at yourselves.
"walking on eggshells" is a book about recovering from abuse by a borderline partner, the scene on the couch/dirty carpet and getting in the car/her breath on the front window is from someone else retelling their abuse/in a storyteller form. I can't recall where I did read it, but it was so on point, that I could finish her sentences. 🙄
Licensed psychotherapist here & that book’s full title is actually, Stop Walking on Eggshells: Taking Your Life Back When Someone You Care About Has Borderline Personality Disorder. It’s my absolute go-to guide for clients who are dealing w/ a loved one or close friend w/ BPD. Easy to read, comprehensive, & helps my clients create a coping “tool box” of strategies to use when dealing w/ someone close to them w/ this disorder. The focus of the book isn’t on recovery after a relationship w/ someone w/ BPD so much, though it may help in more clearly understanding the disorder & destructive cycle so there’s a decreased chance of becoming involved in another relationship w/ someone who has BPD. The book gives an overview of the disorder, including symptoms & patterns of behavior, & how others closely involved can be negatively impacted. It’s much more a strategies book in terms of building that tool box I mentioned, which is critical in helping an individual insulate themselves from the more destructive aspects of the disorder. Setting & keeping boundaries is most critical, as well as learning how to communicate in a more effective & less emotionally based way, which is where those w/ BPD tend to hook their loved ones. Both authors have collaborated on an offshoot of the original book that’s focused exclusively on parents of adult children w/ BPD, which can be an incredibly difficult relationship to navigate.
The “pounds of pressure to break a human wrist” is so interesting still, not only is it one of the more obviously lines she’s used, but she also uses it again later with the flight attendant!
I have PTSD. I didn't accept it for a very long time. That couldn't be happening to me. I guess in my case was a culmination of a lot of things that I had bottled up since my teen years (nothing to do with DV and/or SA). However I couldn't - and still can't - give an embellished narrative of the "facts"... I'd probably pass out, hyperventilate and throw up. Yes, we are all different in the way we experience things but this just looks like a monologue rehearsed and delivered by a not so good actress...
also interesting how she keeps going back and forth about how she felt almost creeped out by him doing things like calling or gifting her ..then back to how she always had this instant intense romantic-like connection with him lol
Amber mentions Johnny’s “disappearing” multiple times and it makes me think those were the times he left her to get away from her abuse. It’s on audio that he tried to leave because they were fighting and you hear her acting hysterical begging him not to, that it would kill her if he left. She’s screaming and he’s calmly saying let me go, let’s make some space and get calm and then we can come back together again (paraphrasing).
Not necessarily. It could just be that it was in the beginning of their relationship and he didn't see the need to tell her everywhere he went, and that she just freaked out because she didn't have control. It could also be because he was addicted to drugs and checked out to be on his own for awhile. It could be a variation of different reasons.
@@angelicastern2385 Yes, but the disappearing she's talking about was at the very beginning of their relationship, the very beginning, and no abuse starts at the very beginning, and no victim of abuse stays when it happens in the very beginning. However, in the very beginning of a relationship it can be quite normal to have days without contact, but someone that's controlling may well see that as disappearing. But as I also mentioned it can also be an addiction thing. Of course, later on in the relationship it can well be that the disappearing was to get away from the abuse, but it's very unlikely in the beginning.
According to twitter her opening story is word by word from the talented Mr Ripley. According to a UA-camr she was arrested as a minor and DUI s. Her I was a saint story was very made up
Yes i hope somehow the cross ex can bring that. Also theres no meta data on photos etc which is highly sus. And as her mums passed away it cannot be refuted. Ill tell you as a dv survivor ob one hand and as a mum on the other had she told me a partner was abusing her there is no way i would LOVE him. And theres text evidence from even after thenir separation to JD from her mum. So what gives? Both her parents apologising for her almost and trying to ingratiate themselves to JD. It was all on the timeline investigation on Incredibly Average. Nuts.
I dont believe for a second she ever tried walking out of the room to diffuse the situation. She gets SO over the top upset with him for doing that in the recordings and makes out like hes abandoning her and BEGS him to stay and have a "normal fight"...but now shes the one walking out to try to stop the fight? Wow such lies
I could not believe that she claimed that she was the one who walked out. We heard it from her own mouth that he was the one who always left and she had the audacity to try and lie about this?!
Mine would stalk me from room to room while I tried to escape. They would try all sorts of things to provoke and intimidate EXACTLY like the recordings show her behaving. Once when I tried to sleep on the couch they stood over me like a Stephen King character and refused to move until I went back to bed.
It’s interesting to try to reconcile the image of a soft spoken victim of DV that Elaine and Amber attempt to present during their direct with the CACKLING, antagonistic abuser that we all heard on the audio recordings. Interesting.
When Amber claimed she worked at a soup kitchen every morning before school, for all 4 years of high school, 5 days a week, her credibility with me took a deep dive essentially right at the start. Yeah... right, Amber. It simply doesn't ring true. Instead it came across as an attempt to paint herself in a favorable altruistic light. I can't be the only one who calls BS.
I have been a high school kid, raised high school kids, and I teach high school. I have NEVER known of a kid who worked at a soup kitchen before school.
If only because of this; who the h. eats soup early in the morning 😂😉 Nah, kidding, there's lots to do in those places, so even in the mornings. Once a week, I could've believed. But wasn't she always taking care of her sister?
If she lived in a small town I’m already on the fence that there even is a soup kitchen. Like i know every small town is different but the ones I’ve been in might have food given out by churches but it’s rare that there’s a food kitchen that serves dinner never mind early morning breakfast
She probably did do some volunteer work but not willingly. She went to a Christian or catholic school and they require you to do community service as part of your schooling. She just left out the part where she was forced to make herself sound saintly 🙄
Defamation is hard to prove any way you cut it. That’s just facts. However, it feels JOHNNY wanted his truth spoken! He did this to clear his name and expose Amber as the liar she is. As a survivor of DV, I am PISSED! She has made a mockery of victims. Having an ABUSER represent us makes me ill. Win or lose the “case”, Johnny ha already WON
1000% agree. I can't listen to her testimony as it is very triggering for me because I have never recalled any of my situations like she tried to portray as a victim, even with me being up to 30 yrs past my occurrences. It breaks my heart what she is doing to all victims!
even if jd loses the defamation case..... He will win the public perception. Which will get him back his career. It looks like warner has fired all people who sided with AH
she is most def not a victim of DV. Frompersonal experience, her testimony would be very short, more emotion.. this is like a monologue from a movie script... very strange
It's super interesting to me that he calls her Ms. Heard and she calls him Johnny. I was abused by my mother, who also has BPD. After I went no-contact with her and got diagnosed with PTSD, I started calling her by her first name instead of "Mom" so that I could put some healthy distance between us in my mind and remind myself that she is her own person and that I am more than just her abused daughter. I wonder if that's what Johnny is doing at all.
When she was in the middle of one of the "emotional" monologues and Depp's team said "objection", she instantly stopped all emotion to look at the judge, the judge said oveuled and the "emotion' turned right back on again! Like a director who shouted a note from across the set at her but she was in the moment so carried ok with the scene 🤦🏻♀️🤣
Oh man this was hard to watch. She started off OK, sounded credible, was articulate and engaging and spoke effortlessly in a natural way. As soon as she began lying she started stuttering, notably altered her speech and ramped up the drama. She ramped up the drama so much it became completely unbelievable and sounded so rehearsed and insincere. Seems like she's using all her acting skills to win the jury's sympathy. God I hope the jury have the insight to see through this highly skilled toxic manipulator.
Heard literally telling the story of what SHE did, but saying it is Depp. And what she describes as her actions is actually what Depp did. Someone should 'map' this to demonstrate it. It is almost exact mirror.
Absolutely! She even had a couple slips where she said “I threw..” and then corrected herself and then inserted Johnny into the active aggressor. So interesting I hope someone does map this out. I also noticed that she mirrored Dr. Hugh’s testimony in almost the exact same format talking about having hope for the future and having periods of no abuse etc she literally shared her testimony in the same steps that the doctor elaborated on. The contrast is striking
This would be much more believable if a) she wasn't telling an incoherent narrative, b) not speed-shifting through emotional extremes and exaggerations, c) admitting and/or acknowledging basic responsibility for her aggression that even her own defense team acknowledges, d) didn't have weird memory gaps for the most important details that is inconsistent with the way most people remember trauma, and e) didn't pad out the lack of relevant details with excessive fluff narrative that doesn't nothing but make the story less believable. I do believe JD's psychologist's assessment; her EXTREME need for victim status and the horrific abuse and violence she claims to have endured literally beggar belief. If she would tone it all down, it would be much more believable, but toning it down isn't consistent with destructive, uncontrolled manifestations of BPD. I feel bad for folks like her. I think the feelings of rage, violation, and hurt are real. And the desire for vengeance is overwhelming and requires extreme action. I don't believe for a second that the vast majority of her claims are true as her testimony is distressingly unconvincing, and I cannot fathom how she didn't have serious injuries or AT LEAST visible ones. She sure kept a lot of records, but not of them point clearly to the extraordinary abuse she accuses JD of perpetrating.
@@CreatewithSqudgeCraft neither can I. I feel sick to my stomach listening to her & not because I believe her... her narrative sounds so fake & originates from a very sick mind!
@@aysegulapaydner i agree...having lived through some similar situations she attempts to describe was very difficult to watch. i was actually cringing, squinting my face and felt so uncomfortable. The fakeness of it is just baffling. I cant believe a human being can lie about these things in front of the whole world, sitting in front of someone she married and supposedly loved and sharing these horrific lies about them to the world sitting feet away from him, and all while knowing actual dv victims across the globe are also watching and listening... i have NO respect for her.
As I listen to her do u know what I think?.... I remember listening to an fbi/cop once, who was talking about how to detect a liar and I remember him saying that people who lie will often OVERSELL a situation with lots of extra expressive words that aren't necessary etc and that's what I'm seeing here! 🤷♀😑... If u go back to the beginning when she's talking about her upbringing then you'll see just how differently she's speaking and how it flows properly... Much more matter of fact and way less fluff words! Plus her facial expressions just do not match! 😒
Did she describe her relationship as harassment, grooming, stalking, adultery, physical and verbal abuse and THEN marriage? Btw: didn't she said that she had been physically abused? So, how can it be a new experience?
What you are describing the way marriages to narcissists unfold. She's just on the wrong side of it. She's the Cluster B. They act wonderful and love bomb you and pretend to be everything from your wildest dreams. Once you are locked into marriage the real them starts to appear.
I hate to speak up for her, trust, but going from nothing but abuse to actually being wooed ARE two different experiences... My ex DID woo me, at first, and it was SUCH a different, rosy, overwhelming time in my Life...
My ex sexually harassed me, I was underage. He grope my bust for one of the first date in his home. I think worst decision ever. He’s not apologetic n keep pushing his hands inside my clothes. I regret ever dating him.
Got SHOVED onto a glass table and didn’t get any injuries? Table didn’t break? Where is this girl from the camping trip who had her wrists grabbed by JD and threatened with broken bones? Why didn’t she seek a settlement? Where is the flight attendant who witnessed the second girl get her wrist grabbed on the plane?
Yeah, glass tables are quite fragile when hit with a body. I would know. Barely fell on a VERY nice one my aunt had had for quite a few years, when I was 8 or 9 and it _absolutely_ shattered. I was a short thin kid too, let alone a full grown adult being _thrown_ into one. I've seen the same thing happen with a grown man tripping and falling onto a glass table as well. Never heard of anyone making full bodily contact with a glass table and the table surviving.
@@Amarianee lol yea I’ve seen a few broken in my day and it was usually somebody stumbling backwards onto one, not being slammed off one by a way bigger person. That just seems off.
Watching her testimony/bad acting was the most painful thing I’d been through. I’m curious how being raised by meth head abusive parents are suddenly amazing.
Right?! I can’t connect this abusive childhood to anything she said except for it being important to her to not be home or to get out quick something along those lines, but it was such a quick aside I think I only caught it because I was looking for it.
On the stand she said her dad was a “salt of the earth kind of guy”. Didn’t they spend a lot of time talking about how he was a wife beater, child abuser, and drug addict? 🤔
She was walking away from him, he slapped her across the face, and she "turned around and faced him".... How is that possible? He would have to be in front of her to slap her across the face.
And she then said she was backhanded and jonhhy is wearing rings. We can see how big those rings that he wore in court. So would that have left a scar on her face. She is an actress and her face is her commodity, because she clearly doesn't know how to act based on this trying to cry when there are no tears. Who would risk their ability to work by not going to the doctor. She would have at least went to a medical doctor to make sure that there is no scar right?? Even Dr. Hughes can't provide a medical record(not those her psychiatrist were she self reported that she was hurt). Every body can self report. Wow
@Annon_28 they were face to face, she was hitting him from behind, he turned and got her in a bear hug, but she carried on thrashing, kicking and kneeing him, at no point did he say he turned her round and bear hugged her!
She portrays herself as the caretaker who seems to always find herself in chaotic situations. She describes herself as the person who was there to help Johnny overcome his addiction, help her dad stay sober, protect Johnnys kids, watch over her personal assistant and save her kids from the running car with the open doors in the middle of the road. That’s a LOT for one person to even think they can take on or be capable of. There seems to be a heroine fantasy persona that she has created of herself in her head. She seems to always find herself in chaotic situations, yet she is allegedly the only stable one. For example, she outs her sister for doing cocaine and she makes it clear that she does not engage in it but her sister does. This goes against the very caring and protective person she portrays herself to be, because she is carelessly sharing personal, potentially humiliating information about her sister unnecessarily. It’s just all such a contradiction. She seems to place blame on everyone around her and takes no responsibility for her own part in anything. Johnny took responsibility for the things he was responsible for. He was honest and authentic and denied the allegations that he was not responsible for. He didn’t try to present a squeaky clean image. He was real, raw and imperfect and that’s what made his testimony believable and I believe, genuine and truthful. I won’t even go into the very bad acting. That’s a whole other topic.
Excellent analysis and observations!! I have to contribute my 2 cents. Have you ever known someone with borderline personality disorder? Because as I read everything you wrote it was literally like describing how a bpd person operates. They always paint themselves as the victim, yet also the savior (often even in the same story). Then, within those stories, they literally cannot help themselves, they have to insert mean spirited gossipy words into it as well. Like you mentioned her bashing her sister. Yet she claims they’re so close and cares for her. A rational person who loved and cared for Their sister would never stoop to the level of publicly shaming her and embarrassing her. Most people would also see that would make themselves look like a bad person too. But a bpd person doesn’t seem to consider those things. It’s also my experience that borderlines seem to possibly convince them own selves of their lies. I have an excellent read on behavior, and what I feel from her testimony is 3 things. Some of it is actually true. Some of it she has somehow convinced herself as true, but it’s not. Then some of it is straight up lies, and she knows it. Just think, this whole testimony is AFTER her lawyers have coached her through it and had her tone it down, and get her ducks in a row. You can see the histrionics for sure. The constant eye contact with jurors with pleading eyes and shameless lies is too much too. There’s just SO much to comment on!!! I only saw something small on this case one day, and thought huh, that’s strange. There’s more to this case! Could the abuse have actually been lies? I got hooked. Been watching all of it now. Lol. It’s like a movie. The viewer is on a rollercoaster of emotions. Even laughter. There have been some seriously funny things go down here 😂 like the terms fecal delivery and fecal phobia… 🤣🤣🤣 never heard those before now. 😂 Anyway, loved your observations and analysis! Spot on. 👏👏👏
I am someone who does a lot of acting for school and am also a victim of SA, and it is very hard to genuinely replicate the visceral physical reactions to retelling your story. She is so clearly acting that it is offensive to those of us who have been through such trauma. You can literally see where she turns her acting self “on.” Very uncomfortable
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This 100%
I texted my fiance that it felt insulting and offensive. (Fellow abuse victim here.)
He's been relying on me for updates on the case and yesterday was the first time I had to stop watching because I was genuinely upset just listening to it.
@@MeghanInnes thank you for sharing, yeah it sucks to see stuff like this. Makes it hard to come out against perpetrators
We are seeing some truth during her testimony. We're seeing why a tall blonde struggled so much to get bigger and more meaningful roles in Hollywood. Her acting is at the level of a freshman auditioning for a performing arts school, overacting, making everything far too overly dramatic, thinking that is performance rather than just being and feeling for the role.
@bina nocht yeah I agree lol. She is attempting and failing at miming those reactions
For someone who documents every little thing, I find it hard to believe she forgot to take pictures of her wounds.
I left this same comment. She is so detailed about every situation but forgets stuff you would think that someone should remember.
This culture of smart phones!??!
@@keisha_renee precisely, and I felt she had more love for that gown than she had for her vagina.
Like where are the proofs that ever happened? Why did no one notice a difference in her gait? I don't suppose any woman would be able to walk straight after being penetrated with a glass bottle to the point of bleeding?
She couldn’t afford an iPhone.
@@monsterpie1400 she had one in the photo with the bruise on her arm tho. idk if that was in another stream or this one lol
Emily did you notice she said this trial is the most painful, traumatizing event she has ever gone through? Wouldnt one conclude the most painful thing would be the alleged domestic violence?!?!?
Exactly...its painful now for her due to the bad PR
@@19rcooper have you experienced DV or are you just speculating lol. As someone who has been involved in an abusive relationship, I wouldn’t love to retell the saga publicly, but it definitely wouldn’t rank in my mind as “worse” than the abuse itself. Not sure who would.
@@19rcooper I work in a domestic violence center and definitely it is painful for many survivors to have to relive the events of the abuse. Fellow survivors are often triggered by hearing other people's stories. That said, I can't stand Amber, fully believe she is lying and is the true abuser.
Because her public persona is being challenged
@@katieegan5178 giving testimony in court is awful. Having your intimate texts read out, being called a liar is mortifying. It attacks your integrity and it's all done in front of strangers. I dont think I'd put myself through it again.
She moves all her friends in to live rent free, but a horse is an extravagant gift that she just CANNOT accept? Make it make sense.
Throughout her testimony, it appears that she is “selling” her story as opposed to “telling” her story, which indicates that she is lying.
So far her story doesn’t fit with the actual evidence. I’m gutted because I believed in her.
Exactly!!! Narrating. Also adding so many extra words. If you're telling the truth you don't need extra words, repeating ECT. She is a terrible liar and a terrible actor.
She tells these stories in the present tense. It sounds weird to me. Like she’s relaying an idea about a story or script she has an idea for to a production team.
@@thekitowl There are probably parts of Amber’s story that ARE true, but…… none of us can actually know which parts are factual, and which parts are embellished or even outright lies, because we weren’t there. ….I honestly just hope that at the end of this trial, both parties will seek the help they need to recover from the trauma they have inflicted upon each other through the 10 or so years of their entanglement. Even though they are “stars” and so obviously in the spotlight, as mere mortal human beings, it appears that both of them are hurting, and it would be great to see them get the help they need to move on and hopefully, learn the lessons that each of them was meant to gleen from this and evolve. :)
@@Paulaatmdbqdotnet probably parts are true, but what parts. She has been caught out is so many lies I’ve lost faith.
Like Johnny said first day of his testimony; he already lost long ago. He’s doing this to clear his name, which he has done. Period.
Exactly! He has no need to do this. Why would he do this if he was the abuser? Why would there be so many audio tapes where she yells and screams and admits to hit him, throughs stuff but NEVER something he does, even tho she claims he slaped her around all the time
And I believe he will restore the public's faith in him and be far more successful than Amber Heard will ever be!
I came to this with an open mind. But the more I am listening to her the weirder it is. I was in abusive relationship. When Jonny Depp was talking, it reminded me so much of what happened to me. It triggered me. But now I am listening to Amber. It makes me feel like she read about abusive relationships and now tries to guess how it feels to be abused. It's just so so weird.
100% agree
That's my experience watching this too. I heard the Depp/Heard audio recordings years ago, shortly after getting out of my own abusive relationship, and it was honestly a pivotal part of me coming to terms with what I went through. I might as well have been listening to myself and my ex argue. She said and did all of the same things my ex did.
My thoughts exactly. I find the obvious signs of abuse and perpetual gaslighting throughout his testimony. Like how even though he knew he didn’t bust her nose, you can hear in how he recounts it that he was trying to hold on to his reality in that moment. So much so he had to wait to seek proof, ie. the tissue in the trash. It’s so consistent with how abusers make you question your reality. Also the way she smiled and fondly talked about the start of their relationship. You’d imagine she’d rue the day she met him. Her recounts of abuse in the blocking also often make no sense. It’s a slap in the face to victims.
Exactly she is saying all the right things but I don't feel anything. I mostly remember feeling guilty for making my abuser angry and I remember the fear when my abuser was in a black out rage where they wouldn't remember what they did. They would hurt me and scream at me and a second later ask why I'm crying and what happened. Amber only brings up not being able to reach him and that he wasn't there anymore but she never described why she felt that way.
She also keeps talking about how SHE tried to leave, but we've already heard her admit ON TAPE as well as to therapists that SHE WOULD RATHER FIGHT THEN LET HIM LEAVE. Listen if it was one or two or three things in her whole testimony, I might give her some benefit of the doubt - but VERY VERY LITTLE as she describes it makes sense!
Yes, her own therapist mentioned that she struggled to deescalate. Yet her testimony doesn't take responsibility for literally anything, even though even the defense admits that she got aggressive.
She's obviously practiced this, a lot. She doesn't even have short breaks where she thinks about what happened before putting it into words. Obviously, she's had time to think about what she's going to say, anyone would have thought about what they will say on the stand, but this is like reading from a script.
@@basketballman1854 and look how good she is at acting [sarcasm]
It isn't authentic because she has practiced too much, but other actors on set have said she is hard to get to act 'right'. If we made a web chart of all of the people who have split up around her, INCLUDING GAGA & AH/JD AGENT'S 💍, ANGELINA JOLIE WAS RIGHT. Amber wasn't right for Johnny & maybe he wasn't ready to reveal how right she really was. I think that THE ONLY REASON there was chemistry on set of Rum Diaries, was because Heard knew this was her golden goose. I still want to know what AH spent on marital credit cards AFTER THE TRO. I think the agent should have not set up the meeting unless AH had him fooled as well. AH is embarrassing herself bc of bad acting i.e. NO TEARS, SA REPORTS, AND THEN GOING TO MEET WHILE TRO WAS STILL IN EFFECT. As the agent was under the spell of his clients clearing this all up. He dealt with Hollywood long enough to know JD and the rumors, antics and how well rag mags sell if he was on them. I.E Sun in UK. LIKE TMZ SUN BUYS STORIES. I THINK THAT RUM DIARIES STORY FROM HER SIDE WAS OPPOSITE FROM SHOWER SCENE (much Sexier scene that 1st kiss (which she was kissing, with tongue, right back) wasn't a face grab unless it was a deleted scene.
Yes, I do think she watched too many testimony of WeinStub cases, Other court cases, maybe even LAW & ORDER, BUT SHE OVER COMPENSATES AS Dr. HOTTIE MUFFIN EXPLAINED THROUGHOUT. Imo Dr. DUSK H was surely reprimanded for the testimony because of her lack of professionalism in the evaluation, and like Dr. CURRY, SHE DIDN'T HAVE THE IPAD VERSION OF TESTS SO SHE COULD HAVE MADE UP THE DATES. AS Dr. CURRY HAS METADATA FOR ALL OF HER INTERACTIONS WITH CLIENTS. IT'S called CYA in professional environments.
I hope Dr. Curry is hired foe many more investigative Mental Health Studies and she has been found to have proved Depp right because ON RECORDING, JD begged not to take this into court, as it will probably ruin her reputation as a B list Actress. He was still looking out for her new career as he has known of the cheater and liar and manipulation he witnessed.
Even the few times she did remember to pause and pretend like she's thinking about it, she's not in her feelings at all or really thinking back and reflecting anything. It's an embarrassingly fake "uhm" and an exaggerated scrunched up "thinking face" like what a little kid would do. No wonder her career never took off, she's really a terrible actor.
@@aussiebaka5363 true... I am so interested in the ratings on these channels, we dohave CourtTv (journalist who sits with AH PR guy in Court/ & leans AH) on our services, and I believe it is on Dish Network not Cable we have in Las Vegas. I am anxious to see clips not the whole act. WRAP GIFT WAS FROM END OF MOVIE. It's another thing, Qualudes aren't made anymore that I know of. Js, serious question, the horse gift her dad and JD planned, umm DID HER PARENT'S ADDICTION GROOM HER TO... find rich guys? Step by step up to billionaire who may have been trolling JD by cheating in his PENTHOUSE, then they fight over embryos, then she has surrogate to keep her figure. Another DR. Curry explanation. Sheesh.
Trial prep. It happens with every trial.
As a DV/SA survivor I have to comment and I have to express how triggered I was- with ANGER for all of us(male and female) who are REAL victims. I have never experienced so much anger, almost hatred for someone I have never met. The description was like out of a novel or movie script “all i could do was look at the carpet and think how did I never notice how dirty it was??” Then afterwards in the car “ I could only focus on my breath on the window in the car”… my abuser would never let me leave after a beating. Does LA get that cold in March where you would see your breath? Anyways- I’m a DV/SA victim of severe abuse and I have blacked out most of the actual events- what I remember the most is the next day when I was so sore and in pain- how bad my head hurt, how much the bruises hurt, the sore throat from being choked. Trying to get the knots out of my hair from being grabbed by the hair and it being pulled out and knotted,how I was going to cover my swollen eyes from crying to go to work or what excuse I was going to use this time because it was such a bad beating there were marks I could not cover up. She said the punch didn’t hurt- that’s the one thing you remember - the sting and surprise of the first hit and how it radiates through your head and you see black… then I would disassociate and block the rest out. I have never ever heard from anyone from my DV groups ever describe DV like this- it was like a bad novel or lifetime movie script. And a commonality among victims is apologizing repeatedly like we caused it and it was our fault- never have I prided myself on being strong and sticking up for myself- I would apologize excessively to make it stop and be filled with shame and fear. I’m concerned because most of the jury is men ( only 3 women) and I’m scared they might fall for this BS- b/c smart men like JD and Elon did. Johnny displays behavior of a victim- AH acts like an abuser. You recall the emotions, the feelings afterwards because during the moment you’re in fight or flight and your brain will literally protect you and you will black out the beating. You will remember bits and pieces- almost like when you’ve drank a lot of alcohol and you’re not in a complete blackout but only remember parts. I have never focused on the f&cking dirty carpet. If anything I remember the look on his face, the sound of his voice, the stun and pain of being hit. I would never say it didn’t hurt. Especially being punched in the face repeatedly WITH THOSE RINGS- her face would be so cut up she wouldn’t be able to leave the house. Her story is so fake. Her acting is so TERRIBLE, it’s worse than I ever thought it could be- and she is supposed to be an actress. I truly hate her for the mockery she is making of real abusers. I HATE her for what she has done to Johnny. Johnny behaves like a victim, AH behaves like a gaslighting abuser. When JD testified I noticed I was holding my breath because I was believing him and I felt it. Lastly- I don’t know of anyone who told people so soon (and conveniently both of those people are deceased), I especially did not tell my mom because I didn’t want her to worry. Lastly I didn’t tell anyone because I was threatened if I did he would kill my family. And what he was doing to me I believed him he would follow through. I was also only 17 and he was 5 years older and I stayed for 5 years. The cops were called many times by neighbors and back then things were different, we didn’t have Me Too, when they came I would lie and take the blame. The only way people ended up finding out was because it continued to escalate and the injuries became so severe I could not hide it and I couldn’t lie it away anymore. She is a much worse actor than I thought. Also a common trait in abused individuals is shame and embarrassment. I certainly would not be staring straight at the jury confidently and definitely at my abuser like she has been throughout the trial. I would be staring down at my hands in shame. Still to this day I know I would. It doesn’t go away. I felt like I was watching a Lifetime movie. She is a reprehensible human being. Her lies are enraging. The anger I feel is palpable. For the mental, emotional, physical and continuous abuse TO THIS DAY Johnny deserves to win. HE was pushed to reactive abuse the doctor tried to protect AH with, NOT HER. Even if you don’t believe PLEASE pray for victory for Johnny and his family . The BS about his jealousy of the way she dressed and blaming him not getting jobs- he was with Winona Ryder, an actress, his partner of 14 years Vanessa who is a singer, model and said she NEVER was abused by him and SHOCKED by the allegations, dated Kate Moss at one time the top model in the world who did basically nude Calvin Klein campaigns. To hear her repeatedly call him twice her age and creepy when you KNOW she pursued him just as much if it more- to further her career. Tried to act like she didn’t know who JD was 🙄🙄🙄 AND MOST IMPORTANTLY- trying to act stunned when she was hit “ I know you don’t slap people! I know you don’t come back from that- how could this happen to ME? I went to health class- I know how this goes.. “. HOW ABOUT YOU MENTION YOU KNOW HOW IT GOES BECAUSE YOU WERE ARRESTED FOR HITTING YOUR EX WIFE, YOU BEAT YOUR SIZE TO THE POINT SHE WAS COVERED IN BRUISES AND THERE ARE PICTURES AND WITNESSES, YOU HIT YOUR MOTHER, YOU SPIT IN YOUR EX ASSISTANT FACE, VERBALLY ABUSED HER AND STOLE HER S/A STORY, and now we all know what YYOU DID TO JOHNNY, you repulsive monster. I pray you pay for the mockery you are making of real victims and the torture you’ve put people through and continue to abuse!
I feel your passion. And all you say is 💯 right. I truly hope the mostly male jury do not get duped by this dangerous, manipulative sociopath
I agree with you completely! I am so sorry for what you have endured and I can also relate with some of it. I don't believe AH suffered ANY abuse from JD. Her lies and fakery only serve to cause someone to side-eye the next victim telling their account of abuse. She is an embarrassment to women!!!
I read every bit of what you wrote. Just leaving a message to tell you you are heard, and you’re correct. Everything you wrote.
I hope you are doing better and much love to anyone who has gone through any abuse ❤️ I know for everyone it is different, when I had my stuff going on I do remember focusing on things to try to dissociate, but I know it’s not as common. For me, I was always told to stop talking or making any noise after anything happened and I was afraid so I would try to focus on things outside the car window or anything in my room that could take any attention away from making any noises of pain or anything, but that was something I was hyper focused about.
I completely agree that she sounds and acts like she read this out of a book the way she remembers and *conveniently* doesn’t remember things that are very important. I totally understand dissociating but there’s a certain amount of things that you can NOT forget no matter how much you try. Iv been concussed, iv been blacked out, but there are just some things you do not forget, you sit there after and go through every single thing multiple times that had happened to make sure you are even making sense because of how much you doubt yourself. And the fact that she has NOTHING as proof that she was injured… mine was only discovered by an officer on accident, I tried covering it up, there is no way you could cover all those injuries and say.. go on a tv show the next day with no visible swelling or discoloring, believe me, I have tried every trick, that’s not how that works!
I'm so sorry that happened to you and I'm glad you got out. I completely agree with you. even years out of my abusive relationship I'm still scared to talk about it. she's such an awful person for doing this
She’s making Dr Curry look like she has the ability to tell the future…..as she is literally behaving EXACTLY the way Dr Curry described!!
Such is the case with strong, persistent, and deep rooted personality traits such as personality disorders. I'm not saying that we should just blindly trust Dr Curry - she was hired by Depp's team, after all - but I agree with you that seeing this testimony and behaviour her description feels eerily accurate. It really reinforces that case for me.
Yes!! Exactly!!
😂😂😂
@@theWebWizrd she wasn’t hired she was court appointment
Flowery language
1:11:37 Rewatching this again, I have a theory. I think she kept trying to drive home the point about the "dirty carpet" because in HER mind, the more details she included, the more believable it was going to be. She thought, "if I can give details about everything that was around me, they are going to know I am telling the truth because how else could I know the carpet was dirty unless I was close to it?". But in her case, the devil WASN'T in the details. The details she brought forth were SO erroneous and inconsequential, it actually made everything she was saying LESS believable.
I can't IMAGINE how many hours.she spent in front of the mirror trying to look like a little girl from Texas 🙄 That's the problem with abusive people.....they are incredibly charming.. like a spider weaving a web.
They are most definitely charming. My ex is loved by my whole family even though he was abusive to me. My aunt once asked “how come he isn’t the way he is around us all the time?”
it's weird though because she doesnt come across as charming at all
@@blahxblahxblah100 Once upon a time....I knew a guy who could lie.....like his sister accused him of stealing a game system. He cried to me....not just shed a year, but a deep sobbing cry that came from his gut about how his sister had issues and has always been hateful towards him. He SWORE on his life he didn't do it. That cry....sobbing heart breaking cry. I would have bet my LIFE....and I've known liars and grew up in a very abusive household......but I would have BET MY LIFE...there was NO WAY he was lying. The next morning when he went to work his sister showed up at my door. She said "let's go....I need you to see something. You NEED to come with me". I don't know why....but I went. We walked 2 blocks to the local pawn shop where she had the guy pull up the surveillance camera footage....and sure enough...there he was....pawning the game system. Once you peel back the first layer of that onion.....holy God the things you slowly start to find out. What these types of people are capable of. It LITERALLY blows your mind. The genuine, heartfelt, deep emotion....looking right in your face and lying....HOW?? They will create entire scenarios to back up a lie. Steal money....then call police, get a business card, file a false report saying THEY were robbed to cover up the fact that they stole it. The lengths liars like Amber will go through to back up their story is truely terrifying.
@@blahxblahxblah100 She's an over-acting borderline and not as convincing or charming as a complete npd/sociopath.
She didn’t spend enough time practicing in front of the mirror.
I spent today feeling like I was watching someone practicing lines for an audition. There wasn't a single moment where she managed to draw me in and trigger an empathetic emotional response, which makes it impossible for me to believe that she had any true emotional attachment to her portrayal of anything that she narrated.
Just to play devils advocate, it could be indicative of disassociating, not showing emotion. Some tell the “story” as a story and stay disconnected as a coping mechanism. BUT as an abuse survivor who does utilize this coping mechanism her testimony felt like watching a poorly acted Lifetime movie, like she watched videos of DV survivors and tried so hard to emulate them.
So strange... as someone with some amount of experience, I thought I would be swayed emotionally a bit here or there, but I felt the same... And she's far too involved for me to feel this was just some dissociative quality on the retelling; she just doesn't seem to _feel_ connected to the emotions being portrayed. Like watching a movie with a court scene where the actor just isn't managing to make me forget its all a movie, eh? :|
Dr. Curry said in her report, she has conversations that focus on inane things, qnd fills her conversations with fillers without focusing on the important details.
@@shellykeykens638 I have also suffered both childhood and relationship abuse, and I just didn't feel anything genuine in almost anything that she said involving JD. From beginning to end it all seemed like she was reciting a script, and it felt very much like you described - like watching a poorly acted Lifetime movie.
Admittedly, though, all of the abuse that I suffered was psychological, so I have no reference for the differences in that experience - my abuser early in life was my mother and she waited until I was physically larger than her to decide to add physical abuse to the equation, which she decided not to attempt more than once.
Right and over acting 🎭
As a former victim of DV, I can guarantee you that you will NEVER EVER EVER give him a knife with “until death do us part”… as is what you fear on daily bases!
When I escaped him strangling me, since it happened in the kitchen, my main concern was “kitchen=lots of knifes”… so I locked myself into the bathroom…
This is not ROMANTIC! In fact anything that is connected to violence, of any sort, is out of question as a gift! You already have plenty!
Unless you want to get yourself killed… In those situations your main concern is to survive and hope things will got better!
Very bad acting if you ask me!
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I love pretty knives. My husband would NEVER EVER give me one because I have a history of self harm. If someone has a history of violence toward self or others, your SO doesn't give you a fucking knife.
Don't agree. Can be addicted to the feeling not releasing how bad it is. Believe it's romantic over toxic. Fits her disorder too
As I listen to her do u know what I think?.... I remember listening to an fbi/cop once, who was talking about how to detect a liar and I remember him saying that people who lie will often OVERSELL a situation with lots of extra expressive words that aren't necessary etc and that's what I'm seeing here! 🤷♀😑... If u go back to the beginning when she's talking about her upbringing then you'll see just how differently she's speaking and how it flows properly... Much more matter of fact and way less fluff words! Plus her facial expressions just do not match! 😒
Sorry you went through that experience.
I'm replaying the trial because....withdrawals. I couldn't rewatch Dr. Hughes, again. It made me so angry and so upset. I couldn't listen to her recount such atrocity and horrendous acts in such a gossipy manner. With AH, I go into auto-pilot because it sounds like play-acting - terrible, terrible play-acting. Love your energy Emily!
Same lol. EDB is my Xanax. It really helps with my generalized anxiety disorder.
Is it lagging for y’all?
Same! 😄
Crying but no tears. Playing the role of her life, just like what was said in opening. Smh, I really hope the jury sees this as well
I faked cried with a boyfriend once. Then he went to 'wipe my tears away'. BUSTED!
No kleenex nothing fake fake fake
@@lastjob2011 oh noooo 🤣🤣🤣
I noticed this as well. She does the mouth thing, but not even misty eyed.
The crocodile tears 🤭🤭
Anyone else keep noticing, "He kept disappearing, I didn't know where he was", Dr. Curry said she had control issues and was jealous and needed to know where he was. Also the nursing notes said," she complains of severe anxiety when he isn't in her presence".
By their own experts opinion thats part of DV
@@miche6563 I'm just saying that if Johnny was so jealous he would show up on her sets. And harass her co stars, wouldn't there be evidence of any of that?
they also said she was an alcoholic with a cocaine addiction.
And per their own witness surveillance behavior is part of DV…
Yes, but on the tapes, it's 2 hours. She's freaking out because he goes off for 2 hours.
This is why i'd be a terrible juror. I'd be rolling my eyes throughout this entire deposition. As an actual survivor of abuse, her lies are unbelievably obvious and disturbing to me. If her clearly false allegations don't burry her career, this poor acting performance certainly will.
I'd totally had to have a snapping rubber band to prevent me from saying that "thanks for confirming that you ARE a bad actress".
Maybe you'd be a great juror actually.
Same 😅 I don't think I'll ever be on a jury
I don't think that people with history of abuse qualify as jurors in such cases. I believe they're not selected. There was an issue about a juror in another case who after the trial made a statement about having personal experience of abuse and that was a huge issue because he had claimed otherwise during his selection. Emily has discussed about it saying maybe they would even have to redo the trial... I don't know what happened in the end.
I'd be obviously rolling my eyes.. Shaking my head.. Sighing... Bruh staring her down with a look of contempt, thank God I wasn't called for this trial because I'd be dismissed indefinitely lmaoo💯✌🏾
10:25 Elaine says the wrong name for her client
21:30 no job was too small for her
41:33 “it was instant again” after saying how creepy he was
43:15 “it was on”
45:28 “most beautiful person in the world” “$1M”
48:48 tea, so much tea, sea of tea
52:05 tea 2
1:04:27 she talks about the blow up w/o pronouns
1:07:04 she wasn’t sure if he was using but there was a jar of coke out on the table?
1:09:54 couch/dirty carpet fight
1:10:42 “god, did he just hit me? No!”
1:12:06 seeing a man cry is “weird”
1:13:01 “I’ve seen the health class videos”
1:13:12 “I made a point to not say oh it’s ok”
1:14:57 “He said he’d rather cut his hand off”
1:19:41 “that’s why it’s not more specific I suppose”
1:20:18 leaving the bedroom and gets hit across the face fight
1:26:54 “I’d get bored” or “we’d get bored”
1:27:27 quaaludes
2:05:04 “I don’t make a big deal out of smaller injuries”
2:07:16 bruise on arm from ECB pool doors
2:16:00 “he grabs 2 small dogs” …oh…well they were their dogs…
2:19:37 “a picture I took of MY breakfast table that morning”
2:23:06 “I sent it to my bf at the time saying look at my morning 😏”
2:26:30 Amber only ate one mushroom cap
2:28:08 “do you know how many lbs of pressure it takes to break a human wrist”
2:32:54 she didn’t do coke, she was against it
2:36:33 “my dog stepped on a bee”
2:39:37 “this other thing was awful”
2:40:48 accidentally calls the good part “this thing”
2:45:07 the first & last time she did drugs with Johnny
2:46:45 she took 1 mdma & Johnny took a handful
2:50:49 she falls back on a table & catches herself on the table
2:59:18 being chocked & threatened with murder and she’s worried about her hurt feelings
Oh thank you so much!
MVP!
This breakdown is awesome. Thank you sharing the time marks. Whol testimony of hers is so unbelievable.
You are the best person in the world for catching all these timestamps! 😍😍😍😍😍😍
You are a HERO, thank you for these
Your reaction to her testimony is right on. I'm a court reporter who has seen/heard hundreds of DV, rape, CPS cases. I have never heard someone describe such traumatic experiences in this way. It's usually either one of two things: They are hyperemotional, such to the point that they cannot clearly say what it is they need to (either barely audible, talking too fast, or too choked up to get a clear thought out) OR they are completely dissociated from the trauma and state it very flatly as if it happened to someone else. NOT what Amber is doing, which is this odd inbetween of the two.
I agree.....
@Lorena Treichler when I talk about my abusive relationship, it's nearly 3 years but since day one most of the time I talk as though I'm talking about how I toast a slice of bread - I do not- daren't - engage with any of the feeling. It's only when something I say "catches" me and transports me, slam, right into that feeling and then I'm all over the place emotionally and trying desperately hard Not to cry - I have to stop talking until I can detach and compose myself again.
@Lorena Treichler No, often times court cases take many many years. 5-6 years after the incident is not uncommon.
I feel like Johnny seemed very “removed” from the trauma when he testified - monotone for the most part, a few sarcastic/dark humor statements as a form of coping, really taking time to think through and remember details and feelings
This is how I typically speak of my trauma and I NEVER look at my abuser I can’t even see him on social media it’s so triggering I had to block him we ended things 10 years ago I have been with my current partner 8 years (almost 2 years married) and I saw my abusive partner at an engagement party about a year ago and I STILL couldn’t look at him. I’m a clinical social worker I see a lot of me and my clients in the way Johnny talks vs Amber
The only time I've ever been able to say anything about my own s3xual a$$ault experiences is when i made a joke of it. I had to say it really fast. It helped that I was washing dishes amd they weren't actually I'm the same room as me and it was very briefonly one sentence not even talking about the whole situation. In regards to my physical and mental abus3 I agree with what you say it's very hard to talk about. Not as hard at the s3xual stuff though. I haven't talked about it bearly at all and when I have I never once actually described most of it. I kept it very vague because I just couldn't get into it.
No tears. She recovers seamlessly without pause. The body language guys are going to have a field day with this. Wonder if the landlord will testify to anything....
I’m so excited to see the body language experts in this woman😅
Legit, when I lost my shit in therapy, it took a lot of heavy, deep breaths, to calm down and lots of involuntary waterworks before that - all talking about things in a more general manner than they're talking about "her story", and from 9/10 years prior. PTSD doesn't "get used to it", it's an open wound until you can completely process it and talk about it objectively OR, if you uncover it and you're not healed it will show involuntarily.
Or you disassociate when relaying the experience
😂 I was thinking the same... This was my opinion on this testimony..
As I listen to her do u know what I think?.... I remember listening to an fbi/cop once, who was talking about how to detect a liar and I remember him saying that people who lie will often OVERSELL a situation with lots of extra expressive words that aren't necessary etc and that's what I'm seeing here! 🤷♀😑... If u go back to the beginning when she's talking about her upbringing then you'll see just how differently she's speaking and how it flows properly... Much more matter of fact and way less fluff words! Plus her facial expressions just do not match! 😒
@@melodylinsmeyer8616 that too. You wouldn't be feigning emotion.
So I'm a survivor and I am really taken aback by the positive way she talks about the start of their relationship. On the rare occasion that I actually speak of my own experience (only to therapists), I literally CANNOT talk about the "nice" things my abuser did without mentioning how surprising and strange it felt to be love bombed, and saying how there were red flags and uncomfortable feelings that I pushed to the side...
I 100% agree!
For me, I can't speak about the 'happy' times without feeling disgusted that I ever found this creature attractive.
Same.
I'm perplexed that AH took a photo of her bruised arm BUT DIDNT DOCUMENT the back hand hit with rings?!?! Surely with blood spatter she'd have damage to her face.
I saw a tiktok last evening (after her 2nd day) regarding that bruised arm photo. Their observation was in regards to her hair color being dark. I did not confirm this information but, they observed that the only time that AH has had dark hair was a few years prior to her being with/meeting JD. It could be possible that that photo is from her previous marriage. Without the metadata… 🤷🏻♀️
Aside from the backhand, what about when he elegedly penetrated her with the bottle, of which she claimed she didn't know if he was using the broken end or not of which was never reported 😳. (I believe that testimony was after this, but could be wrong)
Almost as if she's never been hit by a man wearing 3 or 4 huge rings, not even once! She clearly has no idea the kind of injuries that would result from the horrific beatings she describes.
@@suppleleopard I noticed that as well. Amber had BLONDE hair for audition for The Rum Diaries. I don't believe a word she says. No emotions, no tears, and lots of details however it's directed towards the wrong thing. She's sad one minute crocodile tears the next. Goes from sad to ice cold in a matter of seconds.
Why is there no bruise, marks, scrapes on her face from that picture from backhanding her with rings? That's what caught me off guard from that picture.
Here's Amber proving to all how brilliant Dr Curry is! She is putting on quite the performance! Over describing and explaining are classic signs of lying! This is the best I've seen her act!
You're sick, you don't know what it like to be a part of a smear campaign and people not believing you.
Yes she’s definitely playing a character, not even the same voice as in the recordings
She can’t just answer questions simply. It’s almost like she’s compelled to embellish for dramatic effect.
Whenever someone says “I remember because…”. I feel they are lying.
Yes! She is “selling” her story versus merely “telling” her story, and this would indicate that she is lying.
She keeps saying “it’s so stupid” “it’s so stupid now”… downplaying it to play up her naivety 🙄
I was searching the comments hoping someone noticed this too
All a part of the psychological profile Dr. Curry testified to, it’s so odd to watch it in real time isn’t it?
When they sidebar on objections, it’s like the director calling “cut” for her. Every time.
Yeah she goes blank
Who else is rewatching ?
I am a child abuse victim and my mother is a domestic violence victim. And I also worked for my local government in domestic violence and mental health and substance abuse. And I can tell you 100% without a doubt that Amber is the abuser and lying and Johnny is the victim. Amber does not exhibit typical behaviours of a real domestic violence victim. Also, I can 100% tell you without a doubt that Amber is ACTING here and not doing a good job of it.
Couldn't agree more, I suffered similar as a child, and over 20 years later I still can't talk about this in the way she does. I can remember feelings and where things happened and she hasn't mentioned anything
She told her story like it was the plot of a lifetime movie. It’s like she was romanticizing it all. Which is incredibly disturbing and insulting to real victims. Her story was cringy, but not for the reasons she wanted it to be.
@@moni13000 I noticed it too. I am really struggling today with Amber's obviously fake testimony. She is so obviously lying and faking. It is triggering to me and I am so upset to see anyone lie about being a victim of abuse and violence when people like me who really is a survivor of abuse are real victims.
Yes! Exactly!
I think its brilliant that a female attorney will cross examine her. She can be way harsher with Amber and she will not get away with the ‘poor little girl attacked by a man again’ act.
Oh please tell me the cute young lawyer gets to treat AH just like her lawyers treated JD team?
You know she will be pissed off if this pretty lady drills the crap out of her.
I loved Ms Vasquez' objections. She was clearly paying attention to what was going on
@@nelle9118 Especially if she has BPD, females with BPD see other women as competition they typically dislike other women.
Who will be cross examining her?
@@ryanc5572 I can picture umbridge complaining to the judge already. “But juuuuuudge!! Ms. Vaskwez is being mean to my client!!!”
100% feels like i'm watching a court scene in a drama series.
A bad made for TV thing though... with washed up actors trying to stage a comeback.
No it's way worse. I bet Keith hates her.
A poorly written one
She wouldn't leave a grumpy on his bed because she has fecal phobia and yet she cleaned up after him when he lost control of his bowels?
Good point!! I never put those two things together!
As a woman who actually went through abuse I would NEVER compliment the man who hit me by saying “I knew I had to leave the best thing that ever happened to me”, how the hell could the same man who slapped you also be in your opinion the best thing to happen to you?? Even if you felt that way about him before all of that would have stopped immediately and you could never even fix your mouth to give him that type of honor after he hit you. And when my ex hit me to the floor and stood over me before trying to choke me out the last damn thing I thought about was “oh the carpet is so dirty”. In those moments you are fearing your life. You don’t know if you will die, you don’t even notice your surroundings because it feels unreal like a dream. For the person you trust the most that you think will protect you to turn into a monster is the craziest thing to experience, it’s mind boggling because they become like a stranger in those moments. Those thoughts of the look in their eyes and whether they will kill you is stronger than anything around you. You don’t have time to dwell on your surroundings. Everything is fuzzy and fear takes over. Do you think someone being dragged outside in dirt to be killed is thinking “damn the dirt is nasty” noooo I’ve been dragged down a dirty hill by my legs before and it’s like an out of body experience. You can’t believe it’s really happening to you and that you might actually die this way. I can literally tell y’all this woman is a damn liar. If she was ever really abused she would realize how stupid she sounded talking about the damn carpet in that moment. That’s what happens when you have to describe a situation based on what you see on tv, she a joke. And for her to not realize that real woman are watching her that actually go through this and know what it really feels like is crazy. I pray one of the jurors has experienced abused before to see right through her lies. This is disgusting!
Her saying he was the best thing that ever happened to her is her telling the truth. Because it’s true. He boosted her career and gave her a superstar lifestyle. All the rest is lies. I believe she was insanely jealous of the admiration people had of him to the point of rage and violence.
@@angelicastern2385 yeah that’s the most honest thing she’s said the whole time
Ur 100% correct.
Yes! 💯 Your terrified not worrying about how dirty the carpet is or the dog on the window. Your thinking how am I getting out of this alive or am I gonna die. Trying not to get injured. Trying to get away. Or play possum so they don't continue. Your not worrying about the carpet filth
Plus I never knew millionaires would have such dirty carpets 😁
She portrays herself as this kind, loving, innocent victim, doesn’t align with the audio and video recordings. She’s nasty, antagonistic and manipulative in all the real evidence. If she were truthful at all she would admit to all the shit she did in these fake scenes. But because they’re fake she basically does NOTHING. She sent him a text saying he’s a dead beat dad, I doubt the real amber heard would be so kind during these fictional scenes of abuse.
She is incapable of admitting her faults. They are ALWAYS the victims.
She was in love with his money!
she's also magically immune to all the effects of drugs but everyone around her gets intoxicated lol
@@imaginempress3408 it's the people who are smarter about this that get away with it...the fact that she keeps making her stories more and more outrageous every time is the only reason she's getting exposed to the world
Right…like she hangs out with James Franco and has never seen a jar of cocaine before!? Seriously?
I wish Johnny had a retoucher as a witness. I’ve retouched celebs and her arguments about makeup bugs me SO MUCH. Our screens are huge and show more colors than you can possibly print even. Our image files are annoyingly big with so much data. So I am PRETTY SURE Amber could have asked for an original file from a shoot and show a busted lip, bruise or swelling on a RAW file in 800% on a retouch screen even with lipstick or colour correcting foundation. If she would have wanted to. And what about her legs, arms, rest of her body.
Despite makeup and lighting. We see EVERYTHING because we need to choose how to do our work. We even look what’s a pore or mole or scar, other skin things etc because we don’t want to airbrush celebs (although sometimes that’s what people imagine we do) . This is SO annoying. She can’t even hand in her shitty phone pics.
This needs more likes, this is the type of commentary that actually shows the falsehood and lack of evidence in her story. There's a lot tangible evidence that can be brought in on cross and interesting points like this about how data can be used in a case like this. Before I begin a tangential rant, quick questions how well can someone or an industry conceal those things using the apps JD might want to bring up or other technology? I saw some photos floating around (not sure if verified) of her modeling and the official photos didn't show a bruised/battered hand but fan ones showed her knuckles looked pretty bloody (again these may be fakes I bring up to illustrate a point) could you hide those sorts of injuries? And also, how easily could you create those sorts of injuries with the tech and makeup we have? Plus, how long do you guys typically hold on to some of those photographs? Because the lawsuits started in 2019 so from them on AHs team might have been able to look for those files but they haven't gotten any, plus with how many photos she's referenced and videos you'd think she'd be the type of person to collect any photographic evidence like that because she did it other times. Final question, if you guys have a client who's frequently getting injuries would you be able to remember those patterns and would you ask questions if it seemed like someone else was causing them? I feel like if my client kept showing up with injuries peppered on her I'd ask a few questions and likely end up a witness in a trial like this.
Tangential rant, not necessary just my personal side opinion:
I'm getting sick of these fake body language eXpErTs that will twist anything any which ways (e.g. if Amber looks at the jury too much she's trying to truth convince therefore lying, if she doesn't look at the jury enough she's also lying) makes team Johny look like they're just making false assumptions about how people behave and forgetting that people express differently so absent an ACTUAL PSYCHOLOGICAL EXPERT (e.g. Dr. Curry coming in and performing ACTUAL PSYCHOLOGICAL TESTS) the claims don't usually hold water. What the expert witness actually said and statements like yours are actually useful unlike claims made on evidence you could twist to make the exact opposite argument. I get really frustrated with people who make arguments like "she isn't acting appropriate for a victim" bc plenty of ACTUAL VICTIMS (unlike AH) actually do act in ways others may not think or differently than other DV victims.
End of rant.
@@Althea-42 Thank you! And good questions. Yes I actually have to admit it could be tricky to find a photographer that would like to hand over an unretouched file. Unfortunately retouch is very frowned upon. But I would really try to ask. Maybe someone would be nice and want to help out because it’s a severe situation. But up to them who took the pictures.
The photographer owns the pictures and as far as I know usually archive their work their whole life. I don’t own the pictures and I wouldn’t be allowed to show them without consent. I am freelance so I can’t speak for everyone but I wouldn’t be in a position to do anything if I saw black eyes and stuff like that I guess. I don’t know the people I retouch. And I have never been in that position fortunately. But I certainly know I would see things, especially cuts, scars, swelling even with makeup.Inconsistencies basically. Unless it’s some very blurry rare artsy shoot or very far away but with celebrities it tends to be super sharp mostly. Shoots are long and in different locations. Makeup can rub off also and need to be reapplied. Sometimes I have to fill in things like the lipstick myself. You don’t want an empty distracting patch on a portrait. I’ve been at lots of shoots but for other reasons than editing so I’ve seen that side too. I don’t even think body makeup is much of a thing even. It’s not a common thing atleast.
You can basically do anything with a photo and make it look natural. Which is why we try not to overdo it. I often hear people think retouchers make people look skinny and fake when that’s not at all what’s happening. Usually it’s colour stuff, cleaning clothes, shadows… making it look balanced. Every image and person also has some individual things to fix but it differs. But everything CAN be done if you want to. It’s funny because just talking publicly about it feels like I am revealing state secrets. The retoucher is never credited in the magazine :)) .
I never meet the people I retouch. I’m usually just in communication with the photographer. I don’t know if they would ask the person in front of them if they saw anything or something on their files. I assume I would mention it to the photographer if it was super clear but I’ve never had to no.
But yeah… someone agreeing to actually give an original file could be hard if the photographer felt it could have consequences for themselves somehow.
But getting a photographer who shot her during this time or retoucher (prefferably one who worked on her face) to witness and explain how it works should not be impossible…
As this is my work I just can’t with these pics lol. AND she must have a decent normal camera, she can afford it. But nope… we got this. Blurry Iphone selfies 😵💫😏
@@annag176 thank you for those really in depth answers! I love hearing about other people's professions, I think in my questions I kind of conflated retouching/editing with application so sorry for any confusion and for answering so well. For a trial they could easily subpoena retouched photos versus originals, you could be charged with obstruction of justice if you don't. And they wouldn't ask for all the photos probably just all the ones of Amber Heard and the lawyers could go back through all of her modeling agencies and ask who was on the photo editing, retouching, photography, makeup contracts and get witness statements and photos that way. So either her lawyers were incompetent (which isn't outside of the realm of possibility) and turned down an obvious opportunity to get photos from an unbiased third party or they started down the process and didn't find anything.
TL;DR I think the photos she brought are sus and her lack of photos is also sus. Can't wait for cross.
Also, I wonder how many bruises, scratches etc had to be edited out of Johnny’s movies or print work
I'm a former make-up artist, and I am a good one. You can't conceal a black eye. You can minimize it. I worked at a shop right next to a courthouse and the county jail and people including lawyers had me cover shit up, hickeys, beatings, bruising, etc, but make-up has its limits. Especially with swelling. And no one palette is going to do the trick. You need a bunch of products. And you would need to be an expert to do the make up on yourself in a car. It's such a bag of lies.
I was a victim of physical child abuse at the hands of my father for many years. I am not one to not believe people. But there is nothing about her that comes across genuine to me.
And the fake crying about a cavity search makes her even less believable
Her dad was abusive but on the stand she says she’d never been hit before. Was her dad not physically abusive?
To her mother and not her I believe is what happened. Hope this helps!
This was a big contradiction on her part. Even her oped described child abuse. And suddenly she has never seen abuse before. She is crazy.
Didn’t she say they were heroin addicts too???
@@323azteca Yeah she says she learned about DV from health class videos? lol. I had an abusive parent and it's weird to me how she talks so fondly about her dad. Very very weird. I mean, I get the attachment to a caregiver and that love being complicated, but the way she talks about him, you'd never think he was abusive. I haven't ever met anyone who spoke with that kind of endearment towards an abusive parent. It's usually very negative and filled with dislike. You can tell for sure they wouldn't enjoy being in the same room with that person. Amber sounds like she wants to give him a hug.
@@m0L3ify Daddy’s girl for sure
The first hit testimony is literally a B-list monologue from a Lifetime movie. Johnny’s team is letting her bury herself from this point forward.
Dude...absolutely. They're letting her bury herself. Wow. 😵💫
Im pretty sure her line about wrist snapping comes from the locker room scene from True Detetctive S1 with Matthew McConaughey
@Alexa Roberts never notice dirt
... in a house with maids. who would be fired if it was dirty.
@Justin Levy holy shit I just looked up the scene you are right!!
I went into it with an open mind - I’m team no-one! I thought the childhood stories seemed pretty credible as well as most of her early relationship with Johnny. I do think she was more interested in him than she let on (he’s famous and rich and she was a struggling actor - who wouldn’t be into him?!). I could let that go though, because I think it’s human nature to slant things a bit towards you (I think Johnny did that as well).
But, the first hit testimony? Wow. I actually felt uncomfortable in my stomach watching it and wanted to fast-forward. Maybe it actually happened, but the way she told it - looking at the jury, no tears, just narrating with small details to add veracity, but not describing her emotions, was really, really weird. I don’t think that’s going to work well with the jury - I think some of them will have a gut-reaction that something isn’t quite right.
if she was so against him drinking and he was so violent when drinking why in the hell did she ask him to buy some wine on his way home for her bday party?!? i wouldn't buy a knife for anyone i feared and i damn sure wouldn't ask an alcoholic that i so desperately wanted to be clean, to buy alcohol of any kind.
Her whole story is ……nuts.
SO true!!!!!!
I’m ten years sober, and know a lot of people in recovery. In virtually all of the cases, their loved ones did anything they could to keep them as far away from alcohol as possible. Interestingly, the only exceptions for this are people who were in relationships with people who also had substance abuse issues…in which cases the drinking/drug abuse was a tool for bonding, or as a way to continue their own addictions. This seems very telling to me.
Amber seemed genuine when she spoke about trying to escape her hometown, that's how she eased the jury into her narrative. I also believe that both of them lived in a 'bubble',as she put it.But I don't buy her projection as this naïve, gullible little girl...it soon started to feel like an audition monologue...And when she said that the physical abuse started when she inquired about his tattoo...so you have this intense, intimate,all consuming chemistry/love and you never bothered to ask your partner about his tattoo before?! We all know about his tattoo,girl bye.
Aaaaahhhhh so so true! Bye Satan bitc h
@MaryMarisen EXACTLY 💯 👏
She admitted SHE wrote the op-Ed, her attorneys say she didn’t write it so she’s not liable. Boom over
If only it was that easy 😅
I think its strange how she can go from being SO upset and "crying" (with absolutely NO TEARS) to turning off the water works and continuing on with her story in a split second.... I've NEVER met a victim that would IMMEDIATELY stop crying when telling their story...
Watch her deposition...
Not to mention the schizophrenic behavior of being subjected to such an ordeal but still loving him and wanting to be with him. I mean please
Good point.
I didn’t believe ANY thing she said. The testimony was so Cringe I actually had second hand embarrassment watching her trying to Act. From the freighting facial expressions and the things she was saying. The Oscar does NOT go To Amber Heard. She has concocted the stories in her head and told the lies so many times that she believes her own lies. Im genuinely concerned for her child and having to grow up with a mother who is a lying abusive narcissist. Justice for Johnny Depp
Anyone remotely perceptive can see through her lies and act. Truly next level cringe.
It's so fake I just can't understand how anyone would believe it. She's trying so hard to sell it to the jury at all times which seems very strange from a "victim of abuse". And her attempts to squeeze out a single tear were just so OTT. And next second she's fine and talking totally normal again. It's just soooo weird to watch, I honestly struggle to see or connect with any real emotion in her.
My thoughts EXACTLY. Well said. AAAND her pauses in all the wrong places, along with the fraudulant long or hard swallowing...ROTTEN TOMATOES and off with her head! I CAN NOT STAND HER!!!
Me either. She is such a phoney baloney!
I love rewatching/listening to these live streams because Emily is so optimistic at the beginning and by the end she’s just over it 😂 which is 10000% understandable but I’m just like: oh girl, just wait for it! Haha
I totally agree! I frequently just listen to my favorite days in the trial like background noise. But I'm currently not at work and enjoying zooming in on Emily's face and her reactions. So enjoyable!
Listening to the sidebar coverage is awesome too. I love Emily's reading of the sidebars but Chelsea Whitaker masterfully strung together Emily's streams to Emily's reading of the sidebars.
If you want all sidebars, she covers all of them which I believe Emily did not do. Just a suggestion from a fellow rewatcher of this trial, and an EDB fan. 😄
I can just say personally I’ve never met a legit victim that talks about there abuse like that. It’s so second hand, like it’s a story. I have, however, met liars that speak like that.
Watching other abused victims on YT neither do they.
Exactly. I've had friends talk to me abuse SA... they always, always rush it out in simple terms. I do that when I talk about my SA... there's no other way to say it really in a manner that is befitting. This is just weird.
Same, and I was a social worker for a decade
so u think she is lying .....this happened to my husband he was ascused of ...sorry i can't say it .....but u know .....ne ways yrs later found out she lied it was her dad she covered 4 him,but the damage was done.....so this trial is personal 4 me....u think jonny will win? men need to be believed
Yes I completely agree. I have been a victim to this and never ever would I talk like that. Sexual abuse is alot different to domestic violence and no victim can talk about the Sexual abuse they have been through like this. You speak about it in terms of how you felt not like a story. The emotion is so much that it overwhelms other points in the story. I still have never fully been able to speak about my Sexual abuse even when I have wanted to. This looks like she is acting. Victims can feel other people who are also victims and I feel no relation with her and that is very telling to me. I find alot of what she says offensive. I've met liars like this and they all look the same.
Amber is ... EXACTLY ... Dr. Curry's testimony on two legs.
Agree.
She has done absolutely everything Dr. Curry described. EVERYTHING. God I hope JD's team circle back to it, and that the jury remember it 😑
When you truly go through abuse you don’t get giddy about talking about the good times. Talking about the magical times you still show sadness because you feel the pain in EVERYTHING afterwards.
My thought exactly. She was painting everything in the beginning of the relationship in too much of a positive light. If this relationship really ended in AH getting abused, the beginning of the relationship wouldn’t have been told in such a warm and fuzzy way.
Absolutely. And I was giddily in love falling under his guise. Now I can only describe that with resigned sadness - there's no romantic animation there, unlike AH's performance
I 100% agree with you
When I speak about the start of my relationship with my ex-husband now I don't smile like a lovesick teen. The things that made me fall in love with him were calculated and manipulative. I always characterize it in that way when recounting my abuse story with others.
100% everything in my childhood has this glaze over it because of the abuse
@@MeghanInnes YES things that I thought were "cute" and "romantic" at the start of my abusive relationship...I can't speak or even THINK of them like that anymore. I think of them as insidious
I was having a really hard time listening to this woman speak and I still haven't gotten through it. I came across your replay though and having you commenting and leading us through is making it easier. I appreciate you
Yep, this is borderline. She’s skipping over important details bc the real story would reflect poorly on her. Only telling the small weird details that paint her as a victim.
I have a sibling with BPD, and that is exactly what they do, too!!
Right how did she remember such random little details from a decade ago. I thought trauma makes you block out memories and stuff.
She is incapable of loving another person.
I don't mind little details. My SO and I had a turbulent relationship before we dated due to different things in our lives and I can remember lots of little things but not knowing the big stuff qnd having all the small ones memorized is weird
This was helpful to me the way you explained this RE BPD, my sister does the same thing. This is a huge problem bc I can't ever get the facts out of her. The sad part is, BPD is very treatable but a prerequisite if that you effin admit you have it!! I mean there are even options schema therapy and even some meds. It's so frustrating
Director: "Annnnnd cut!"
Director: "Amber... let's try this again. This time, try to imagine what a victim would feel"
Curry explained people with histrionic pd use flowery language to describe things with no real substance and this is how I feel with her testimony. Everything from how in love they were to the actual accounts of abuse, lots of purple prose
There’s a thing called projection. When she was talking about not being allowed to leave in arguments etc , it makes me feel like she’s taking what she did and projecting it onto Johnny.
More mirroring?
I agree. I see her as being the instigator, the unstable one, the physically aggressive and rageful one. I feel like she has literally convinced herself that she's the victim and that he did it all to her, but that she, in fact, is the root cause of most all of the arguments that got out of control.
I, too, am surprised that projection is not mentioned as often as it seems to happen here...
Was her name Dr Hughes who projected even, as if she was AH remembering her stories, uncensored, & give a testimony now w/ an bizarre "expert" twist, too?
Honestly, I wish she could be restrained w/ a straight jacket & be placed into a closed institution & let the therapy begin... this way at least we could save her innocent baby daughter from damages.
Enough is enough!
SHIT!!! She is mimicking JD!! She even dressed for the part. Am I Tripping? She is even using JD's cadence and pauses.🤨🤨🤥
100%.
The way she’s testifying made me held my guards up like she was going to trick me at some point. It was really hard to watch
Was saying the same with a friend of mine, felt the beginning was genuine-ish though thought she’s say more about this ptsd childhood. But the longer she spoke the worse it felt … I was actually watching in the bus and was telling out loud “cmon!” 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
Same. Although, I thought the initial part about her growing up was nothing but a bid to try and get the jury to relate “small town innocent normal working class girl”. Suppose it’s easy to forget how clever & manipulative she actually is, she ruined one of the biggest Hollywood actors of all time.
@Maria Baja I believe that! She is an actress but Johnny’s testimony sounded just like truth lol however much he was telling it to us in a story telling way… glad we get a break from her! Can’t wait for her to be crossed 🤐
As a woman of DV only way I can handle this stuff is by watching you cover it. Its hard enough to get people to belive us and on top of that there are people like amber making it even harder.
Funny, my point of view is there are people like the throngs of Johnny Depp fans that make it much harder.
@@bridgetmakesmovies not sure what's funny about any of this but go off I guess 🤷
But do you not for a second think that she was abused as well? Do you really think there is no fault in Depp?
@@agneag Well she legit almost recorded everything and there is nothing on the tape that suggests Johnny hit her or abused her!! On the other hand there videos and recordings out there proving that she abused Johnny. I don’t know though, everything she saying could be a lie
Literally sounds like she is telling a story “I saw my breath on the window, turned the key and drove home”. Cmonnnmnnnn
And... camera fades....thats a rap 🎬
🤣🤣🤣
Well since her acting career is over she can make up a pen name and take up writing 😂
a little too poetic!
Right?? I thought the same thing. 😂
I'm rewatching this and I am genuinely so upset the camera was on JD when AH made her infamous "my dog stepped on a bee...." comment and weird facial expression lol. I would have LOVED to see Emily's live reaction to that!!
It just goes to show how unexpected it was for everyone in the room 😂
haha! I just had the same reaction and thought. That expression is now an icon for bad acting.
i don’t think i’ve ever been this confused about anyone telling a story. ever. this feels so disjointed and like she’s doing everything to point every finger at him. like the abuse towards him was his fault. i’m so frustrated omg
The timelines are all over. She never misses an opportunity to paint him a pathetic drunk. This is not hitting as authentic for me and I hate not believing a “victim.” Time will tell.
I work in a domestic violence center. Amber is not believable at all. She's giving real victims a bad name.
Talking about him losing control of his bowels? I believe that’s setting up for the “grumpy”? Gonna try to blame that on him. That’s gotta be the most embarrassing part of all this that she shit IN HER OWN BED !! On his side, as a message to him. He never saw it in person, only a photo.
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@@busynana7917 1000% FACT. She is faking, in my opinion, of course!
same I'm very sensitive to abuse stories because of my own history but a lot of perpetrators think of themselves as victims like if you just acted perfect i wouldn't do xyz that's how she comes across to me and i think he was being reactive I've seen too much abuse dynamics in my life
I can't imagine how disgusted he must feel listening to her BS.
He probably knew what stunt’s she would pull, he’s seen enough of them .
He’s had a few reactions around her comments about “taking care of his kids “ mouthed the word “wow”
When she says “we all have seen it in the health videos” I felt like this is act. Why would she not say I saw this in my parents relationship.
My wife is a victim of abuse by former partners.
She would never be able to speak so easily of her abuse. Even telling me is difficult enough she would never be able to speak so openly in court without many more pauses caused by crying.
She's told me she would be having panic attacks. She has legitimate PTSD, unlike Ms. Heard.
My wife isn't the only victim I know, unfortunately, as abuse is too common.. none of them believe Ms. Heard. They don't feel she is one of them.
I dated a person after decades in an abusive relationship. I couldn't talk abt it easily and it definitely negatively impacted my ability to have a healthy intimate relationship.
Spot on comment. I was sitting here thinking, "If I had to tell my story aloud, what would it sound like?" First, I know I would have to pause a lot and think about where to start...also, give a lot more detail.
maybe the 100m is making her lol
THIS
It took me 13 years to tell my husband d of what had happened to me. :(
Here’s a problem, she is not pausing and looking off to think… there are zero signs of PTSD here. Zero. There is no behavior associated with recall when she’s speaking about violence
Yet she was wincing etc when they showed the video of Johnny slamming cupboards .... make it make sense 😢
exactly. its the behavior of someone who rehearsed a monologue to delivery with the expectation everyone was gonna listen. she doesnt even realize that going on like that just adds evidence AGAINST her, shes so wrapped up in convincing the jury. this is 100% about her and her ego and revenge against Johnny, not about being a true victim of DV.
@@johannawigg6921 LOL you're a fool who has no idea what the context of that video was.. Take yourself to a hospital to get your brain checked out; you're delusional, lmao. Everyone knows why he was angry that day, his managers were stealing from him and his mother died, she even lauighed at the end of the video, man some of you females are a different breed. Liberal mindset. Anyone can fake wincing, anyone can look up the symptoms of PTSD as well, wincing being one of them..
@@johannawigg6921 everybody would wince when u hear a loud noise
@@preciousbaltazar8605 yet she didn't while it was happening in real time as chosen on the video
her narrative is changing. the recordings of her that we’re all well aware of display her saying that she wants him to “stay and fight” and yet after the 15 minute break, she keeps saying that she was trying to walk away and diffuse. definitely gives off a vibe that she’s trying to copy what depp was saying
Agree 💯
That sounds about right 👍.
Narcissists like to usurp and adopt their victim's experience...it's the opposite of projection but a form of it.
I was in a relationship once where everything my abuser was doing, he would turn around and accuse me of doing…outrageous stuff, all the way down to the small stuff. I eventually began to identify his unfounded accusations as admissions of his own bad behavior but it was a real psychological nightmare. He was so charming. I think this is called projection and it’s common among manipulators. Her testimony feels a lot like that to me.
YES!! SAME! Projecting is what Narcissists abusers do!
Also, having up close experience with a person with personality disorders, sometimes they can tell elaborate, expressive stories (often pulled from pieces of truth from their own lives or the lives of others) with such authenticity that you can almost feel it. It's as if they believe fully their own lies, and maybe they do. There's also an arrogance there. They have all the confidence in the world that people believe them because they perceive themselves as so much more clever than the rest of us. That's my personal experience growing up. When I see it out in the wild, I run. Those personality types are still uncomfortable for me to be around. I would not be a good juror in this case because of it. I hope the jury is able to wade through all of this to find the pieces of truth.
She doesn't imo .. she is acting. Ive dealt with good liars too.. shes not one
@@Angelface11 As I watch this, I get the sense that she has an elevated opinion of her acting ability. She appears to be a person that gets a real thrill from fooling people. Just my opinion. I'm concerned how the jury is taking this. If they don't have experience with this type of personality, it's so easy to be drawn in.
Totally agree. I have also experienced life with a person who has narcissistic personality disorder. What you say about their taking pieces of things from other peoples’ lives is completely true. I think they often believe their own lies.
She does try to invent elaborate stories, but her acting is just not believable.
My father is a narcissist and has bipolar personality disorder and he tells stories identical to her. I completely agree when you said it’s almost like she believes her own stories and absolutely she totally does
So interesting how she never shares her substance abuse. She never includes that part in her testimony or even how she’d get mad and yell and hit. There was one part that was very telling when she started with “and I threw..” and then she stopped herself. Emily caught that part, very telling. I tried to give her the benefit of the doubt but she is not sounding believable. I also think she absolutely cheated on him. She only ever said “I never slept with him” in reference to one person. Seems like when she “reiterates” Johnny’s words that she’s actually sharing what she was saying and her tone not his. The part about him ripping her dress… maybe that did happen and I’m sure that made her mad but does she admit to ever getting mad? No. The whole “cavity search” part was straight acting I’m sorry can’t buy it. No tears.
As someone who's been in drug recovery, she displays the classic downplay of her addiction and has this rationalization that her substance abuse isn't "as bad as" Johnny; therefore she's not an "addict". When in reality, it doesn't matter how out of control your drug use is, because addiction is different for everyone.
Not only that, Amber and her therapist mentioned going to Al-Anon to help her cope. Well, if that were true, Amber knows damn well that she wasn't being supportive, kept enabling his use, and wasn't giving him consequences for crossing boundaries. It's like she wasn't doing anything that you're supposed to do when you go to Al-Anon. I don't believe that she ever did go, or stopped immediately after she heard what she was _really_ supposed to do with someone who is in active addiction. They would have told her the following:
*1. IF he's truly abusive, they'd tell her to BREAK UP and minimize contact; at least move out if she wants to stay and "help him in recovery".* (AA, NA and all the recovery fellowships have resources to help in these situations)
*2.- Get herself into recovery for her drug use, to be a better partner./ Get a sponsor in Al-Anon **_at least_** (and work their 12steps).* Because partners and family also have to work on themselves and how they interact with the addict (many people don't want to do any work and just put it all on the addict).
3.- *Stop using, and not allow any type of substances in their home* (But since she doesn't think she's an addict, she wouldn't stop, not even to support him in staying clean)
4.- *Stop hanging out with people who use drugs and alcohol or don't support the recovery* (clearly that didn't happen, nor did she think it was an option for her).
This behavior of hers in terms of 'helping Johnny get clean and stay clean"; is the reason why I don't believe for a second that she cared about him. Because helping him meant she would have needed to stop her substance abuse, and that was clearly not an option. Like a TRUE ADDICT, she prioritized her own drug use over anyone else's wellbeing. So these arbitrary lines of "I was against doing cocaine or opiates" are completely BS if she's getting high and drunk anyway, it still doesn't help Johnny stay clean or sober.
As I listen to her do u know what I think?.... I remember listening to an fbi/cop once, who was talking about how to detect a liar and I remember him saying that people who lie will often OVERSELL a situation with lots of extra expressive words that aren't necessary etc and that's what I'm seeing here! 🤷♀😑... If u go back to the beginning when she's talking about her upbringing then you'll see just how differently she's speaking and how it flows properly... Much more matter of fact and way less fluff words! Plus her facial expressions just do not match! 😒
Did you also hear the bit when she was talking about waking up and seeing her breakfast table covered in booze and D's? She started to say "I wouldn't be able to talk my way out of this one" but stopped.
Ooh, also, she said "I would leave...", paused, caught herself...and then said "It's difficult to explain but I would go to another place" because she realised that the audio and her testimony was that JD would leave! She was about to say she would leave after a fight when that might be logically what someone who was abused would do, try to get away, but we all know she wants to stay and fight it pit and hated when JD left!
The recovery from being ij "tears" to fine and back again is astounding and I hear NO actual tears (I'm legally blind). I've found so many inconsistencies and I'm just at the final break!
@@RhiWJ also the night before was when the grabbing bruise was but also were he punched her face at least 5 times but the swelling/bruising (her cheek bone would have been fratured at least) magically was gone when she went with him to set where she stood right next to crew.
@@RhiWJ your hearing is good - not a single tear even welled up, let alone dropped down her face.
Replay crew here and I started laughing when she said that she had no idea what the tattoo said. My 13 year old daughter asked why, I explained that it was all over the news when he did it and got it changed, and very well known. My daughter said "even normal people Google the person they are dating or interested in. there is no way she didn't Google Johnny Depp when she first found out she'd be working with him in 08, how can she claim she didn't know what the tattoo said."
I thought the same! That Wino tattoo is probably more recognisable & famous than Amber herself 🙃
@@doorframe6716 😆😆😆😆😆😆
In honesty I didn’t know the winona tatoo until some UA-cam channels gave insights of JD stories
Everybody on planet earth knows the Winona to wino story, nice try Amber 🙄
“I don’t complain about small injuries…” says the woman who fully stopped an interview and reprimanded someone off screen for opening and closing a door too many times, making the interviewer restart the interview.
And the picture with the bruise on her arm- her face is in frame!
No bruises! No redness! All lies!
The way this Satan bitc h treats people is disgusting. I can't imagine how bad it must be to be inside her head if this is what she portrays on the outside.
Also, I find it odd that the only people she talked to or that saw the abuse are the 2 people that are dead now... how very convenient
Exactly. She's incredibly delusional.
She's trying too hard, and if I were on the jury and she were looking at me so intensely and telling these stories, I would be squirming big time. It seems so fake to me and looking that much at the jury is very awkward.
Exactly! The overacting and overselling is crazy. Johnny seemed so natural and believable up there but she just seems so fake, and her attempts to cry and look upset make me uncomfortable. I can't see any real emotion in her, just contorting her face.
Amber says "I threw a glass" then she corrects herself to imply Johnny threw the glass. Amber takes stand and says "I wrote the article"
Time stap
@@pasg24 it was shortly after the tattoo story. She said “I threw a, Johnny threw a glass” it was a real quick slip and recover.
@@rudecanadian4067 hehe that why on the beginning she told she have o problem with the words, that later she can change the sentence when she will accidentally tell truth
Annnnnd she’s lost me completely. I’ve been trying to play devil’s advocate, but the way she’s talking is wild. It’s like she grabbed a textbook on DV and started to recite it.
My feelings too. If things actually were like she’s describing them then she would be showing herself as even more psychotic than him.
Exactly what I thought. After being an advocate, she has heard many stories. She’s imitating real victims❤️ We can tell. It makes me sick.
I fell asleep watching it! Now catching up at work
I agree.
When you actually cry, it becomes difficult to speak, you pause, your voice does that embarrassing high cracking thing, there are tears, you have to blow your nose a lot, your eyes get puffy......I see these signs are mysteriously absent...
I'm like 99% sure the "dirty carpet" line is actually from a movie or TV show. My brain came to a screeching halt the minute she started that portion because I already knew what she was going to say - because I had already heard it before. It was very jarring...especially because I've been spending the last hour trying to figure out where it's from now 😩
Oof you're right! And I can't think of it either lol
I thought it sounded like a familiar story as well with the "dirty carpet". But can't recall either where I heard this before.
I hope someone can remember it & send it to Johnnys lawyer!!!
This is definitely from a tv show or movie! I recognized it immediately but dang if I can remember what it is from.
SAME!
You mentioned it in the live stream but the fact that Amber is claiming that Johnny PUMMLED HER FREAKING FACE WITH HIS FISTS in the same incident where he "grabbed her arm" and left that little bruise, yet the ONLY THING she took a picture of was the bruise on her arm AND NOT her mauled face is just more proof that she is full of sh!t. If something like that TRULY happened, you aren't going to document the damn ARM BRUISE, you are going to take a picture of your extremely battered face.
None of her BS adds up.
Not only that but she said he also hit her with his rings on! Those big rings he wears would take a chunk of your cheek off and leave massive bruises for weeks!! And she has no photos? She's surrounded by staff, bodyguards, friends and no one saw the marks these big ass rings would have left??
If he pinned her down like she says, then there should be a bruise on the inside of her arm from his thumb pressing down. And why didn't she take pictures of her bruised face? He supposedly slapped her multiple times so there should be bruises. The bruise doesn't look like fingers grabbing her. Looks like she bumped into something sharp. I don't see any bruises or cuts or swelling on her face in that picture. Her face looks perfectly fine. And again...why didn't she leave him? She had money and was a working actress. If I had the money she had, connections, support from friends and family, and no kids to feed, I would have left ASAP and never looked back. Makes no sense.
You could see her face in that photo and it looked completely fine. She started by saying she threw something at JD and he grabbed her to protect himself (before "correcting" herself by adding he was hitting her). Grabbing someone like that to protect yourself from having objects thrown at you seems like an appropriate response, not abuse.
She said he hit or slapped her several tiimes that's not "pummled her freaking face with his fists". All y'all who want to accuse Heard of lying, exaggerating, or twisting the story, maybe you should take a look at yourselves.
"walking on eggshells" is a book about recovering from abuse by a borderline partner, the scene on the couch/dirty carpet and getting in the car/her breath on the front window is from someone else retelling their abuse/in a storyteller form. I can't recall where I did read it, but it was so on point, that I could finish her sentences. 🙄
WHAT? NO WAY 😯 this is ridiulous
Oh, my... 😳
I hope you can find that original! If that was really just from some book or something that would be very, véry damning, wouldn't it?
Licensed psychotherapist here & that book’s full title is actually, Stop Walking on Eggshells: Taking Your Life Back When Someone You Care About Has Borderline Personality Disorder. It’s my absolute go-to guide for clients who are dealing w/ a loved one or close friend w/ BPD. Easy to read, comprehensive, & helps my clients create a coping “tool box” of strategies to use when dealing w/ someone close to them w/ this disorder. The focus of the book isn’t on recovery after a relationship w/ someone w/ BPD so much, though it may help in more clearly understanding the disorder & destructive cycle so there’s a decreased chance of becoming involved in another relationship w/ someone who has BPD.
The book gives an overview of the disorder, including symptoms & patterns of behavior, & how others closely involved can be negatively impacted. It’s much more a strategies book in terms of building that tool box I mentioned, which is critical in helping an individual insulate themselves from the more destructive aspects of the disorder. Setting & keeping boundaries is most critical, as well as learning how to communicate in a more effective & less emotionally based way, which is where those w/ BPD tend to hook their loved ones.
Both authors have collaborated on an offshoot of the original book that’s focused exclusively on parents of adult children w/ BPD, which can be an incredibly difficult relationship to navigate.
Wait this cannot be real… (not that I don’t believe you, I’m just in continual disbelief of her testimony lol)
The “pounds of pressure to break a human wrist” is so interesting still, not only is it one of the more obviously lines she’s used, but she also uses it again later with the flight attendant!
@nightsgrow6575 YES INDEED she does
It’s fun to hear AH’s female attorney try to sound soft and compassionate when questioning AH. Still like fingernails on a chalkboard.
I find it more offensive than when she's speaking more aggressively! The simpering tone is nauseating
This woman does not have ptsd. She speaks like she’s absolutely fine. She’s in fact a liar who’s exactly as JD and Dr Curry explains she is.
I have PTSD. I didn't accept it for a very long time. That couldn't be happening to me. I guess in my case was a culmination of a lot of things that I had bottled up since my teen years (nothing to do with DV and/or SA). However I couldn't - and still can't - give an embellished narrative of the "facts"... I'd probably pass out, hyperventilate and throw up. Yes, we are all different in the way we experience things but this just looks like a monologue rehearsed and delivered by a not so good actress...
@@sandratcunha 🙏 I’m sorry that you had traumatic experiences. Thanks for speaking about it.
@@elsie412ok Thank you. Usually I don't speak about it. I still don't but this woman and her act are really getting to me.
I dunno I technically have crushing PTSD and ADHD and I'm out here basically coping. Basically ...
@@plutonium2 same. 💔
Why are all of her “witnesses” dead and unable to testify to what she’s saying?
Convenient or what.
Same reason why Tara Reade's best "witness" (her mother) is dead
cause it's made up
Lmfao I know
It's something I wonder if the jury will wonder about.
also interesting how she keeps going back and forth about how she felt almost creeped out by him doing things like calling or gifting her ..then back to how she always had this instant intense romantic-like connection with him lol
Amber mentions Johnny’s “disappearing” multiple times and it makes me think those were the times he left her to get away from her abuse. It’s on audio that he tried to leave because they were fighting and you hear her acting hysterical begging him not to, that it would kill her if he left. She’s screaming and he’s calmly saying let me go, let’s make some space and get calm and then we can come back together again (paraphrasing).
This is how Cluster Bs behave.
Right, and those are HER recordings!
Not necessarily. It could just be that it was in the beginning of their relationship and he didn't see the need to tell her everywhere he went, and that she just freaked out because she didn't have control.
It could also be because he was addicted to drugs and checked out to be on his own for awhile. It could be a variation of different reasons.
@@carinalindberg7377 Listen to the recordings. It’s very clear that he’s trying to get away from her after they had been fighting.
@@angelicastern2385 Yes, but the disappearing she's talking about was at the very beginning of their relationship, the very beginning, and no abuse starts at the very beginning, and no victim of abuse stays when it happens in the very beginning. However, in the very beginning of a relationship it can be quite normal to have days without contact, but someone that's controlling may well see that as disappearing. But as I also mentioned it can also be an addiction thing. Of course, later on in the relationship it can well be that the disappearing was to get away from the abuse, but it's very unlikely in the beginning.
Her ex-assistant also reported that she stole their notes on sexual assault and repurposed them as her own..
Worse she specifically stated she took the events of her own sexual assault and repurposed them, she literally stole
Someone else’s trauma
According to twitter her opening story is word by word from the talented Mr Ripley. According to a UA-camr she was arrested as a minor and DUI s. Her I was a saint story was very made up
@@stephjovi where can i see this??
Yes i hope somehow the cross ex can bring that. Also theres no meta data on photos etc which is highly sus. And as her mums passed away it cannot be refuted. Ill tell you as a dv survivor ob one hand and as a mum on the other had she told me a partner was abusing her there is no way i would LOVE him. And theres text evidence from even after thenir separation to JD from her mum. So what gives? Both her parents apologising for her almost and trying to ingratiate themselves to JD. It was all on the timeline investigation on Incredibly Average. Nuts.
I dont believe for a second she ever tried walking out of the room to diffuse the situation. She gets SO over the top upset with him for doing that in the recordings and makes out like hes abandoning her and BEGS him to stay and have a "normal fight"...but now shes the one walking out to try to stop the fight? Wow such lies
I could not believe that she claimed that she was the one who walked out. We heard it from her own mouth that he was the one who always left and she had the audacity to try and lie about this?!
Mine would stalk me from room to room while I tried to escape. They would try all sorts of things to provoke and intimidate EXACTLY like the recordings show her behaving. Once when I tried to sleep on the couch they stood over me like a Stephen King character and refused to move until I went back to bed.
You shouldn't judge their whole relationship dynamic by one recording maybe? It spanned years, the dynamic can change over time.
@@plutotlavie5845 There are multiple recordings of her doing that. I do agree that things can change over time but that does seem like a big flip...
It’s interesting to try to reconcile the image of a soft spoken victim of DV that Elaine and Amber attempt to present during their direct with the CACKLING, antagonistic abuser that we all heard on the audio recordings. Interesting.
When Amber claimed she worked at a soup kitchen every morning before school, for all 4 years of high school, 5 days a week, her credibility with me took a deep dive essentially right at the start.
Yeah... right, Amber.
It simply doesn't ring true.
Instead it came across as an attempt to paint herself in a favorable altruistic light.
I can't be the only one who calls BS.
I have been a high school kid, raised high school kids, and I teach high school. I have NEVER known of a kid who worked at a soup kitchen before school.
If only because of this; who the h. eats soup early in the morning 😂😉
Nah, kidding, there's lots to do in those places, so even in the mornings. Once a week, I could've believed. But wasn't she always taking care of her sister?
If she lived in a small town I’m already on the fence that there even is a soup kitchen. Like i know every small town is different but the ones I’ve been in might have food given out by churches but it’s rare that there’s a food kitchen that serves dinner never mind early morning breakfast
She probably did do some volunteer work but not willingly. She went to a Christian or catholic school and they require you to do community service as part of your schooling. She just left out the part where she was forced to make herself sound saintly 🙄
It’s also possible that some of the community service was court ordered, if she had some criminal charges as a juvenile.
Defamation is hard to prove any way you cut it. That’s just facts. However, it feels JOHNNY wanted his truth spoken! He did this to clear his name and expose Amber as the liar she is. As a survivor of DV, I am PISSED! She has made a mockery of victims. Having an ABUSER represent us makes me ill. Win or lose the “case”, Johnny ha already WON
EXACTLY! Very well said. She makes a mockery of everyone who’s ACTUALLY had to endure the bs she’s spewing.
1000% agree. I can't listen to her testimony as it is very triggering for me because I have never recalled any of my situations like she tried to portray as a victim, even with me being up to 30 yrs past my occurrences. It breaks my heart what she is doing to all victims!
even if jd loses the defamation case..... He will win the public perception. Which will get him back his career. It looks like warner has fired all people who sided with AH
@Suzy Q-zy i have been there unfortunately and it sickens me to watch her. It literally send a chill up my spine!
I agree totally with your opinion.
she is most def not a victim of DV. Frompersonal experience, her testimony would be very short, more emotion.. this is like a monologue from a movie script... very strange
regardless of structure/emotion, you can just tell when someone is doing a poor acting job
THIS is why I feel so weird believing her (aside from the evidence).
I agree, she is making it up
I am not team Amber Heard but rhetoric like this harms victims. There is not one way victims should act, not everyone will behave the same way.
It's super interesting to me that he calls her Ms. Heard and she calls him Johnny. I was abused by my mother, who also has BPD. After I went no-contact with her and got diagnosed with PTSD, I started calling her by her first name instead of "Mom" so that I could put some healthy distance between us in my mind and remind myself that she is her own person and that I am more than just her abused daughter. I wonder if that's what Johnny is doing at all.
I think you're right. Johnny also calls his abusive mother by her first name, Betty sue.
My story exactly. I wonder the same thing. Calling my mom ‘mom’ felt subservient to my abuser, I completely agree with you.
When she was in the middle of one of the "emotional" monologues and Depp's team said "objection", she instantly stopped all emotion to look at the judge, the judge said oveuled and the "emotion' turned right back on again! Like a director who shouted a note from across the set at her but she was in the moment so carried ok with the scene 🤦🏻♀️🤣
Timestamp?
@@AM.000 I'm legally blind so you'll have to go find it yourself, sorry.
Well I hope the jury saw that..what an act is..
@@AM.000 end of 1st quarter video.
Oh man this was hard to watch. She started off OK, sounded credible, was articulate and engaging and spoke effortlessly in a natural way. As soon as she began lying she started stuttering, notably altered her speech and ramped up the drama. She ramped up the drama so much it became completely unbelievable and sounded so rehearsed and insincere. Seems like she's using all her acting skills to win the jury's sympathy. God I hope the jury have the insight to see through this highly skilled toxic manipulator.
Heard literally telling the story of what SHE did, but saying it is Depp. And what she describes as her actions is actually what Depp did. Someone should 'map' this to demonstrate it. It is almost exact mirror.
Absolutely! She even had a couple slips where she said “I threw..” and then corrected herself and then inserted Johnny into the active aggressor. So interesting I hope someone does map this out. I also noticed that she mirrored Dr. Hugh’s testimony in almost the exact same format talking about having hope for the future and having periods of no abuse etc she literally shared her testimony in the same steps that the doctor elaborated on. The contrast is striking
This would be much more believable if a) she wasn't telling an incoherent narrative, b) not speed-shifting through emotional extremes and exaggerations, c) admitting and/or acknowledging basic responsibility for her aggression that even her own defense team acknowledges, d) didn't have weird memory gaps for the most important details that is inconsistent with the way most people remember trauma, and e) didn't pad out the lack of relevant details with excessive fluff narrative that doesn't nothing but make the story less believable. I do believe JD's psychologist's assessment; her EXTREME need for victim status and the horrific abuse and violence she claims to have endured literally beggar belief. If she would tone it all down, it would be much more believable, but toning it down isn't consistent with destructive, uncontrolled manifestations of BPD. I feel bad for folks like her. I think the feelings of rage, violation, and hurt are real. And the desire for vengeance is overwhelming and requires extreme action. I don't believe for a second that the vast majority of her claims are true as her testimony is distressingly unconvincing, and I cannot fathom how she didn't have serious injuries or AT LEAST visible ones. She sure kept a lot of records, but not of them point clearly to the extraordinary abuse she accuses JD of perpetrating.
Yeah, but, if she just told the truth she's no longer a victim.
Exactly
Poor victims that have actually gone through these horrific things, having to see amber making up these stories. It's SICKENING!
Totally, nearly 20 years later I can't talk about what happened to me in this way, it's a joke
@@CreatewithSqudgeCraft neither can I.
I feel sick to my stomach listening to her & not because I believe her... her narrative sounds so fake & originates from a very sick mind!
@@aysegulapaydner i agree...having lived through some similar situations she attempts to describe was very difficult to watch. i was actually cringing, squinting my face and felt so uncomfortable. The fakeness of it is just baffling. I cant believe a human being can lie about these things in front of the whole world, sitting in front of someone she married and supposedly loved and sharing these horrific lies about them to the world sitting feet away from him, and all while knowing actual dv victims across the globe are also watching and listening... i have NO respect for her.
Am, am I the only one feel like she is acting in this? This is so uncomfortable to watch..
Oh yes she is acting and not very well at all..
Well we can see why she hasnt had many roles in the movie world.
I agree with you 💯.
Watch her deposition. It's an even bigger trainwreck.
As I listen to her do u know what I think?.... I remember listening to an fbi/cop once, who was talking about how to detect a liar and I remember him saying that people who lie will often OVERSELL a situation with lots of extra expressive words that aren't necessary etc and that's what I'm seeing here! 🤷♀😑... If u go back to the beginning when she's talking about her upbringing then you'll see just how differently she's speaking and how it flows properly... Much more matter of fact and way less fluff words! Plus her facial expressions just do not match! 😒
Did she describe her relationship as harassment, grooming, stalking, adultery, physical and verbal abuse and THEN marriage? Btw: didn't she said that she had been physically abused? So, how can it be a new experience?
What you are describing the way marriages to narcissists unfold. She's just on the wrong side of it. She's the Cluster B. They act wonderful and love bomb you and pretend to be everything from your wildest dreams. Once you are locked into marriage the real them starts to appear.
Didn’t make any sense. She wanted to paint the picture that Johnny harasses and groomed, but then keeps talking about their warm bubble or whatever.
I hate to speak up for her, trust, but going from nothing but abuse to actually being wooed ARE two different experiences...
My ex DID woo me, at first, and it was SUCH a different, rosy, overwhelming time in my Life...
My ex sexually harassed me, I was underage. He grope my bust for one of the first date in his home. I think worst decision ever. He’s not apologetic n keep pushing his hands inside my clothes. I regret ever dating him.
At least I'm not the only one who also feels like that's the timeline
You can feeeeeeel when the lies start.
Got SHOVED onto a glass table and didn’t get any injuries? Table didn’t break?
Where is this girl from the camping trip who had her wrists grabbed by JD and threatened with broken bones? Why didn’t she seek a settlement?
Where is the flight attendant who witnessed the second girl get her wrist grabbed on the plane?
Exactly
Yeah, glass tables are quite fragile when hit with a body. I would know. Barely fell on a VERY nice one my aunt had had for quite a few years, when I was 8 or 9 and it _absolutely_ shattered. I was a short thin kid too, let alone a full grown adult being _thrown_ into one. I've seen the same thing happen with a grown man tripping and falling onto a glass table as well. Never heard of anyone making full bodily contact with a glass table and the table surviving.
@@Amarianee lol yea I’ve seen a few broken in my day and it was usually somebody stumbling backwards onto one, not being slammed off one by a way bigger person. That just seems off.
Watching her testimony/bad acting was the most painful thing I’d been through. I’m curious how being raised by meth head abusive parents are suddenly amazing.
Right?! I can’t connect this abusive childhood to anything she said except for it being important to her to not be home or to get out quick something along those lines, but it was such a quick aside I think I only caught it because I was looking for it.
On the stand she said her dad was a “salt of the earth kind of guy”. Didn’t they spend a lot of time talking about how he was a wife beater, child abuser, and drug addict? 🤔
She was walking away from him, he slapped her across the face, and she "turned around and faced him".... How is that possible? He would have to be in front of her to slap her across the face.
Amber accidentally self reporting how two-faced she is.
Exactly! I had to pause and come down to comment! I’m so glad others noticed.
And she then said she was backhanded and jonhhy is wearing rings. We can see how big those rings that he wore in court. So would that have left a scar on her face. She is an actress and her face is her commodity, because she clearly doesn't know how to act based on this trying to cry when there are no tears.
Who would risk their ability to work by not going to the doctor. She would have at least went to a medical doctor to make sure that there is no scar right??
Even Dr. Hughes can't provide a medical record(not those her psychiatrist were she self reported that she was hurt). Every body can self report. Wow
@Annon_28 they were face to face, she was hitting him from behind, he turned and got her in a bear hug, but she carried on thrashing, kicking and kneeing him, at no point did he say he turned her round and bear hugged her!
I also caught that.
She portrays herself as the caretaker who seems to always find herself in chaotic situations. She describes herself as the person who was there to help Johnny overcome his addiction, help her dad stay sober, protect Johnnys kids, watch over her personal assistant and save her kids from the running car with the open doors in the middle of the road. That’s a LOT for one person to even think they can take on or be capable of. There seems to be a heroine fantasy persona that she has created of herself in her head. She seems to always find herself in chaotic situations, yet she is allegedly the only stable one. For example, she outs her sister for doing cocaine and she makes it clear that she does not engage in it but her sister does. This goes against the very caring and protective person she portrays herself to be, because she is carelessly sharing personal, potentially humiliating information about her sister unnecessarily. It’s just all such a contradiction. She seems to place blame on everyone around her and takes no responsibility for her own part in anything. Johnny took responsibility for the things he was responsible for. He was honest and authentic and denied the allegations that he was not responsible for. He didn’t try to present a squeaky clean image. He was real, raw and imperfect and that’s what made his testimony believable and I believe, genuine and truthful. I won’t even go into the very bad acting. That’s a whole other topic.
Excellent analysis and observations!! I have to contribute my 2 cents. Have you ever known someone with borderline personality disorder? Because as I read everything you wrote it was literally like describing how a bpd person operates. They always paint themselves as the victim, yet also the savior (often even in the same story). Then, within those stories, they literally cannot help themselves, they have to insert mean spirited gossipy words into it as well. Like you mentioned her bashing her sister. Yet she claims they’re so close and cares for her. A rational person who loved and cared for Their sister would never stoop to the level of publicly shaming her and embarrassing her. Most people would also see that would make themselves look like a bad person too. But a bpd person doesn’t seem to consider those things. It’s also my experience that borderlines seem to possibly convince them own selves of their lies. I have an excellent read on behavior, and what I feel from her testimony is 3 things. Some of it is actually true. Some of it she has somehow convinced herself as true, but it’s not. Then some of it is straight up lies, and she knows it. Just think, this whole testimony is AFTER her lawyers have coached her through it and had her tone it down, and get her ducks in a row. You can see the histrionics for sure. The constant eye contact with jurors with pleading eyes and shameless lies is too much too. There’s just SO much to comment on!!! I only saw something small on this case one day, and thought huh, that’s strange. There’s more to this case! Could the abuse have actually been lies? I got hooked. Been watching all of it now. Lol. It’s like a movie. The viewer is on a rollercoaster of emotions. Even laughter. There have been some seriously funny things go down here 😂 like the terms fecal delivery and fecal phobia… 🤣🤣🤣 never heard those before now. 😂 Anyway, loved your observations and analysis! Spot on. 👏👏👏
Another thing about borderlines, is they project a LOT. I’m guessing half this stuff was actually stuff she did, but she’s saying he did it.
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