The L and R in japanese can be used inter-changeably, honestly when japanese people pronounce ra, ri, ru, re, ro you can hear they make a sound that resembles both R and L, this will also be evident with Alabasta/Arabasta. Also! Its LOGUE TOWN for Roger's Epilogue and Luffy's Prologue Adventure. Thats why its called the Town of Beginnings and Endings.
@@TooMuchCarbs Funny, I always tied it to alabaster stone and Egypt. Especially since Vivi's family name is Nefertari which was the name of an Egyptian queen. You also have Pell and Chaka represented as Horus and Anubis. There is a lot that ties it to Egypt specifically.
Fun fact, In Nami's arc, the character Genzo has a pinwheel, it was the only thing that made Nami smile as a child, at the end of the arc with Nami leaving, Genzo puts the pinwheel on Nami's mother's grave, and who made Nami smiling again is luffy, who comes from a town called foosha village which literally means windmill village, the author oda loves to do hidden things like that, in this case something going a whole circle
I always thought Luffy smiled because of what he said during the first chapters. I’m okay if I die following my dream. His smile was to show he was happy with how he lived his life. Regardless of how short it almost was.
Getting a fresh perspective on One Piece is always refreshing, but the literary analysis that goes into these videos is heartwarming to hear as a fan of the show and manga for years. This series of you guys coming together to discuss One Piece as a family has very quickly become my favorite thing to listen to/watch. You can never go back and experience something for the first time again and that joy that you're getting from reading makes me jealous. But I cannot wait for more chapter reviews as the more you progress, the more you will too fall in love with the greatest piece of fiction I have ever experienced.
One of the things I love about One Piece is, that the world moves independently from our characters. It's best to remember everything, because you never know who or what can have a massive impact hundreds of chapters in the future. And it's always worth going back and thinking about every line, seriously, I'd never thought about those lines 42:55 like that at all... then again I didn't remember them being written at this point.
Luffy values his life, just less than other things, like pursuing his dream. He knows pursuing kop can't be done if you're scared to die. Also, him jumping into fights without a plan is part of his plan. Him being rubber, and thus super durable, allows him to take hits while observing his opponents. And he's been rubber since he was a child. So he never learned to not stick his finger in the electric socket, you know? He just sticks it in and sees what happens. Luffy doesn't have to be worried as much. His bones don't break. He doesn't need to study before he fights, he can study while he fights.
14:27 matt owens the showrunner said they filmed usopp’s monologue and deciding to fight but it was cut during the writers strike which was quite unfortunate
I wanna Say I am very happy you are enjoying One Piece. As an also Older Individual. (40) I started reading it in its weekly Shonen Jump releases while I was in High School. This was JUST as anime and manga were actually getting popular in the US. But was still far from Main Stream. And One Piece was considered the weakest of the Big 3. (Bleach Naruto and One Piece) But its Gone on to be the longest lasting and best selling with perhaps the biggest fan base. Also I loved your take on Oda evolving as a writer. Yes you will see it a lot. There is most certainly gradual shifts in certain directions. And even a few course corrections. Its all a wild ride. And Yes. I also love smoker because before our view was of the Navy being bad guys mostly with a few ok ones. Smoker being a Higher ranked officer and also so strong but so kind and taking actual justice seriously was a great way of showing the Navy is neither the good or bad guys. Pirates are not good or bad guys either. its down to the person.
Not exactly: He said that the warlords alone added at least 15 years. He never said that they are solely responsible for going more than 5 years. Oda explained this in 2017 when he already knew that it would take at least 27 years to finish the series.
yes but if you go back, he made his mind up the first few chapters of Arlong Park arc, where they are leaving the Baratie and either Johnny or Yosaku are explaining to Luffy about the dangers of the Grand Line and that there are those 7 war lords. so even back then, he had decided upon it, since it was first mentioned back then.
Well… just finished the video what a great analysis from your father i never even thought of the three panels representing their relationship. Some more info you might have missed is that loguetown is called the town of the beginning and the end. It is the place where the great pirate era begun, that is also why the first episode of the season 2 of the live action will the be called “the beginning and the end”. As for the foreshadowing, YES many things are teased, even chapter one has some insane foreshadowing that will be understood later on in the story, Oda has always had a plan of where the story might go so he is able to mention characters and things that we learn more about hundreds of chapters later.
About luffy not having much regard for his life thing, on chapter 2, Coby confronts him about that and Zeff reiterates on chapter 65, those two pieces of conversation showed young me what Luffy was about. So i think it is worth to have a look there!
So glad you mentioned the Tashigi and Zoro bit. I feel like no one really appreciates her as a character, but I always thought that their dynamic could be really interesting if Zoro's psychology could be explored more deeply through her.
I actually believe this is going to happen somehow. Just like Smoker is linked to Luffy. I think Tashigi may be for Zoro. Zoro and Buggy definitely showing up for more story. And Tashigi may be there.
I don't know if this has ever been confirmed by Oda: Apperently, it's Loguetown, pronounced as "log-town", like prologue and epilogue. It's famously the birthplace and place of death of Gold Roger. About the romanization aspect of Rogue or Logue, "ロ" can be read as "ro" or "lo". Japanese people usually don't differentiate between the two. What they actually say in conversation can sound like either.
In Japanese the ロ or ろ is a mix between ro and lo. A literal mix. Which is why it's pretty convenient for made-up words, to have doubble meanings. At least that's the standard way of speaking japanese. Some people, which I guess have speach imparements, heavily make it an "RRRR" rolling sound, and some a "llllll" no R at all sound. Not sure those are dialects, however I might be wrong. But basically what you need to remember, is that if the word is made up, such as ラフテル it is impossible to know if the first charachter is supposed to be Ra or La. Hence... some misunderstandings.
Found this excerpt from a cursory googling: “号 or the -go suffix is normally used to name naval (aka war) ships in Japan. If you want get the equivalent in English, is the same as S.S. Name of the Ship used by the US. One Piece is just following the same naming convencion” So calling it the Going Merry-go is a bit of a pun on the naming convention. At least that’s how always read it
It's just the counter for ships. In the japanese language, if you are counting something you need to put a "counter" suffix on the end of that noun, that is always specific to a group of things.
In regards to the lo/ro sounds, as many have said, in Japanese they are the same character that people just use whichever sound of. It's very likely that Oda, with his love of playing with words and language, would deliberately use that to his advantage when it comes to naming things so that they have multiple meanings using both sounds. Roguetown fits because it's a place filled with rogues headed to the Grand Line. Loguetown fits because it's called the town of the Beginning (pro-LOG-ue) and end (epi-LOG-ue). I fully believe Oda decided "Why not both?" because this is not the first time we'll have Ro/Lo issues when it comes to names for stuff and have both words work when representing the named thing by their meaning.
I totally agree with you! And this is not the only time this happens. Apart from the double interpretation of R/L, there are a literal ton of things that are referring more than one thing, many times across various cultures/languages too. Oda-sensei is genius like that.
Love that thought about Garp, Dragon and Luffy. I think though that the themes can be tied to each of them throughout the story, and that there's not a one-to-one parallel. I think Noah's right that all those are themes of the entire story to come.
@garretbell9915 Thanks for the warning. I've only listened to a part of one episode. I'm avoiding as much info about OP as I can. I skip all comments where commentors give a spoiler warning and let Noah handle them. It's all good. - Dad
To be fair, she also gets some predictions wrong, and for someone who is new to the story they won't know which predictions will be true until they get there. So I'd say it's ok to watch Mom Piece unless you don't want her thinking influencing how you read the manga, and personally I think it's more fun to listen to her afterwards for a new perspective.
Another thing I love about the whole scene with "Nami's room" is how it shows Nami's resilience and inner strength. Arlong enslaving her and forcing her to sail the seas and make maps is basically like tainting her dream. But Nami doesn't abandon it despite her trauma, neither does she despise her natural gift for navigation. Now free and with true nakama, she dreams even bigger. And I think this is a beautiful message that actually speaks more to older audiences. Many people who actually manage to make their hobby their job and thus making their dream reality, often lose their passion or initial drive for it because their dream becomes tainted by the harsh reality that is adulthood and everything a "job" entails. This is actually pretty common in the manga industry in Japan where deadlines are tight and the competitiveness is extraordinary. Knowing about Oda-sensei 's own brutal ungodly schedule, I find it amazing how he tries to inspire even his fellow mangaka (or future mangaka) in this way.
So regarding the use of L and R from Japanese to English, the confusion in translations comes from the fact that the Japanese language does not use the A-Z alphabet, they use Hiragana, Katakana and Kanji characters, which is an entirely different phonetic and writing system from the English alphabet. In the Japanese writing/speaking system, there's only ラリルレロ (pronounced "ra, ri, ru, re, ro", which does NOT have a strong rolling R sound, but sounds more like a mix between L and R to a non-Japanese speaker), and these 5 characters are used to pronounce/translate both L's and R's in the English language. Loguetown/Roguetown for example, is written as ローグタウン ("ro-gu taun"), and whether the translator chooses to write it as L or R, it would still make a reasonable name for the town. So unless Oda specifically write out the name in English letters, there's no way for the translator to know which is the correct answer. What it comes down to would be context clues, since this place is referred to as the "town of beginnings and ends", Loguetown is the preferred translation since it would in reference to proLOGUE and epiLOGUE. On a small side note, there's a lot of borrowed English words that Japanese people use on a daily basis. For example, table = テーブル ("te-buru"), regardless of the L or R in the original word, the Japanese reading would still be ル ("ru"). That's why English is often a very hard language for them to learn to write, because Japanese is a phonetic language, each character they use is a syllable they pronounce, but English has a bunch of silent letters and compound sounds like "qu-", "-eau", "-ue", "-ph", "-th". Unless they have prior knowledge of the English word, whether to write it with an L or an R is pretty much a 50/50 gamble, and the vice versa is true when it comes to translating from Japanese to English here.
Loved the discussion about pacing in writing and reading weekly. I had the same realization reading Bleak House by Dickens. Since it was originally published weekly, each chapter ends with a cliffhanger or a dramatic moment. That book was thick af, but I kept getting scandalized, I couldn't put it down. 😂
Thank you for the great discussion. I wanted to add some context to the meta conversation revolving around the medium of manga and how you’re essentially binging a series that was written and originally consumed at a weekly rate. One piece and many of the manga you may be familiar with is released weekly in a magazine called Weekly Shonen Jump. Basically an anthology with all the new chapters for the series you’ve been following. Because of this each manga has to keep audiences hooked week to week lest they risk be dropped by WSJ. So you call the volumes you’re reading ‘books’ which for all intents and purposes is correct. Keep in mind that the volumes are compilations of chapters as opposed to conventional novels that are released as a whole story, broken into chapters. So while a novel may drag at points or have chapters that set up it’s unlikely see a manga do so. Or get away without. That said one piece is now such a global phenomenon that it’s unlikely that it’s even remotely close to the chopping block. But certainly something to keep in mind especially early days.
I think it's also important to add for background knowledge purpose that One Piece is published in Weekly Shounen Jump (WSJ). The magazine provides a survey with each volume and rank the on-going series in its catalogue based on the feedback its readers send in via the mail. This means all the series in WSJ are in a constant state of competition against one another. The higher ranked a series the more likely it gets push up the table of content for each week (though with some delays and buffers), so it's more likely to be shown to new eyes. When series do poorly for some time they risk cancellation, and generally a series would be forced to wrap up its story in time for the debut of a new series that replaces it. This cycle happens every 3-6 months, an amount of time that let a series produce enough chapters to be bound into 1-2 volumes. One Piece has been continuing for 20 years in this environment and has consistently sits among the top, but in the beginning before it had proved itself One Piece was just like any other series that need to try and make every chapter interesting enough to stay afloat. Although Oda did plan the world and the story beforehand, there were so many uncertainty to whether he would've been able to complete the story or be forced to change the direction of the story by the editor*, which has happened before to several other sereis. This is why it was aimed for 5 years. One PIece was Oda's first series, so as a rookie that was the expectation of success. Back then there were series that while considered a success, had lasted for only around 2-3 years before they were forced out. * One Piece is not free from this though not as drastic as some other series. For example, Logue Town was a case where Oda was forced to rush and had to cut out stuff because his editor wanted him to end Logue Town by chapter 100 so they could start Reverse Mountain on chapter 101. Chapter 100 was scheduled for a colour page for the chapter title and the title "The Legend Has Begun".
@@niello5944 That’s very interesting. Thank you for sharing this information. Somehow, I think Oda would have found a way to keep publishing if he had been canceled. - Dad
@@PorkChopsRiceandPeaches Good. It's for your own good, as there are some spoilers that will kinda ruin half of the story. Never google until you're caught up!!!!!
What a fantastic video! Sorry you guys ran into so many technical issues, but Dad clearly saved it with how much he wanted to geek out about One Piece! This was a great watch, looking forward to the next one
I'm glad you mentioned Drwak show and their, first read throughs of One Piece as well, I also came across their videos when I started my own read and I was a little bit ahead of ManaDrawk so I kept going along with them. But in addition MamaDrawk also wanted to avoid spoilers so what she did that I find Brilliant is she used ChatGPT to look up questions about characture names or related mythology that she wanted to look up but added a prompt to ChatGPT to "avoid all mentions of One Piece"
One thing that I really love about people getting into One Piece is their initial reaction to the series compared to later down the line. There's a bit of skepticism when people first start it due to how wacky it is, but the gradual change to love and excitement for the series is always amazing to see. Glad that you're enjoying your One Piece journey!
Oda had to rush Logue Town because it was his goal to have the proLOGUE of the story end in chapter 100 exactly... a couple of characters were left out from logue town and they were actually shown only in the anime like Daddy mathers (i think that was the name) which didn't make it into the manga but did make it into the anime. Unless it was just a really old rumor...
46:03 Already a theory channel, priceless Noah face haha Honestly, the enthusiam to look for Dragon is heartwarming. Sure, you could ruin some of the experience but it is the evidence of how euphoric you are with One Piece. That's cool. Another great video, thanks and keep having fun.
The R and L thing in japanese comes from japanese having only alphabets for ra, ri, ru, re and ro. But for some reason they are pronounced more like la, li, lu, le, lo. And this is why if you write a foreign word like rogue or logue it's really hard to know which one it really means because it can be either.
It's mainly because Japanese use their tongue differently than us non Japanese. L and R sounds have similar movement but different tongue positions. Just like how British, American, and Australian position their tongue differently when they speak and they sound different.
Btw they are not alphabets, they're syllabary (the more you know😉). That's why Japanese have limited combinations of tongue movement and positions, and may struggle to pronounce foreign words.
@@kissaku the simple way is there's no L sounds in Japanese. Unless they're foreign words, the closest sound to L sound is R sound. That's why Japanese Romanisation have option like Loguetown or Roguetown.
The Drawk Show! Don't watch too many of their videos tho. Mama Drawk is so good at analysis and prediction that it's almost like spoilers even tho she doesn't know anything. That said, I'd kill for a collab someday.
Oda's been foreshadowing since Chapter 1. You'll eventually see that. That said, there's arguments that Oda's just really good at linking back to previous stuff, but that in and of itself is a big skill, and even then he'd have to know what to link back to. That shows he knows his story extremely well, from panel 1, onwards. Possible spoiler below, so don't open unless caught up. One could say the style he chose to draw OP in is, in itself, a foreshadowing of what is to come. The many instances of sun being shown with luffy in the background. Did anyone else notice Luffy's stance in the colour panel he showed with Nami in the foreground? Because that was VERY Nika.
I genuinely love your insight and first impressions. I'm a fan of the show and the manga since I'm 8 years old, I'm the same age as Noah. And I agree, this is the best time ever to read this beautiful story and experience the joy of the finale. Please take your time and enjoy, I'll be looking forward to your new videos nakama :D
when I read chapter 100 was back (early 2011, iirc) I also went and spoiled myself with looking up Dragon XD ... and mentioning of the panels really is amazing, never put that together myself... and as you talked about it, I was thinking, i have never seen anyone else putting that together, totally forgetting that without the spoiler it really is quite a leap XD Smokers intro is one of my favourites in a story in general, i think
my only regret for loguetown is the bar scene with luffy is technically anime only filler but its still headcanon to me darn it id recommend watching it to anyone just shows the trouble Luffy and Zoro will get into without a babysitter
Not sure if I am late for the party, but here is what I understand from my japanese studies. There is no "L" sound in the japanese language (download a Hiragana/Katakana sheet and you will see there is no section for "R" particles). However, their "R" sounds are softer then in the english language and if you let your thongue relax while repeating the "R" sound in a word you will notice it will start sounding a bit like an "L". So, when they trnslate a propper name from japanese to english they take into consideration the Japanese phonetics where "R" sounds like "L". The names of many characters in Onepiece a written in Katakana. For example, ゾロ, which using a Katakana table translates to "zoro" but a japanese would pronounce it closer to "zolo". Luffy's name technically is ルフイ(the last particle should be a quarter of the size, but i don't have a Japanese keyboard), which translates directly to RuFui more or less. This is because the "F" sounds are also not present in the japanese language except for フ(Fu). In order to simulate our sounds they combine フ with vowel particles to make similar sounds. VERY MINOR SPOILERS AHEAD: I think Logue Town makes more sense since this is where you are supposed to acquire a Log Pose. I always assumed Logue Town came from this fact. Log -> Logue
So, the R & L thing is similar to Japanese B & V sounds. They overlap and are interchangeable in both the writing of Hiragana or Katakana. Hiragana being the phonetic language for Japanese words and Katakana being the phonetic language for foreign loan words and foreign names. In these translation volumes, especially the early volumes of this 20+ year old ongoing manga several translations for proper nouns was caught up in the air. (L)(R)ogue Town is called the town of beginings and endings, the story's Prologue of Roger's execution happened there and the Epilogue of Roger's own journey was that execution. Logue town the town of beginnings (Prologue) and endings (Epilogue). That in mind, there is an island that was recently mentioned or is about to be mentioned (I forget the exact location but there is a mention is coming up) where this and other considerations should be applied regarding the translation. Its a, you'll know it when you see it. And consider that in Japanese the consonants and vowel sounds we are familiar with are always paired. Sa, Se, Si, Su. Ta, te, ti, tu. Za, be, bi, bu etc etc and can create some structural inconsistencies where even loan words from English which we would otherwise recognize may take surprising and mistranslated forms. ...don't get me started on Kanji. That system of singular pictogram or multi pictograms being associated with words without phonetic considerations is what knocked me out of being able to successfully learn Japanese years ago.
Something I think about every now and then is how Luffy's family decreases in organization. Garp -> a man trying to do right by people via government and military. Dragon -> trying to do right by peole via an organized rebellion. Luffy -> trying to do right by people via complete lawless freedom. I think their family is such a cool way of showing those avenues/different level of structure.
Going back to Eastblue after 500+ chapters is somewhat better than this early on..but yeah you got it right. Not cz of what happens in those 500+ but, with experiencing the characters for long enough, the little seeds are more clear.
Yeah Luffy goes into fights with his believe in himself but not much strategy, sometimes while he has a very clear motive and a clear antagonist it isn't until he actually starts fighting that he figures out how he can actually help whomever he's fighting for. In this case it was by destroying Nami's prison which is so beautiful I get choked up if I think too hard about it.
You guys mentioned mom piece, I dropped them, but love the journey you guys are taking. Can't wait for the next one. Roger obviously was very "insightful" with his close, and he had certain information letting him know things. I think Oda always had a big reveal, and has been expanding on it for a long time. I would like to have you think about combinations of the Straw hats. I love Usopp, but sometimes it's a combination of two Straw hats together. Like Sanji and Zoro, the way they can be. How Sanji is with Nami, How Usopp and Luffy are, how Usopp and Nami sync up. I'd love to know your favourite pairings. Excited for big chunk videos. Always a good watch.
Excited for this watch, had people down from out of town, now i have time to watch all my youtube, starting with some nice Pork Chops, Rice and Peaches
in the Japanese "alphabet" (hiragana(native), katakana (foreign)) all of them end in a vowel sound, for example hiragana (a(あ), i(い), u (う), e(え), o(お)) , katakana (a(ア), i(イ), u(ウ), e(エ), o(オ)) , the fact is there are no L or R sounds in the language as a whole there is only a sound between the two, so when they try to say a word in a foreign language they use the closest sound they have in that language which is one of the following:
pronouncing them is tricky and depends on the accent, but to put it simply, try to make an L and an R sound at the same time.
another example of that is that there is no sound for "see" so if you try to say "Cesare" would be pronounced "shiza" as follows "shi-za-a" in kana(セザー) (the dash is for extending the last vowel sound) There is one exception to the vowel thing and that is the N sound Below is a full table of base hiragana (more curvy) and katakana (more angular) if you are interested HIRAGANA a i u e o ∅ あ(a) い(i) う(u) え(e) お(o) k か(ka) き(ki) く(ku) け(ke) こ(ko) s さ(sa) し(shi) す(su) せ(se) そ(so) t た(ta) ち(chi) つ(tsu) て(te) と(to) n な(na) に(ni) ぬ(nu) ね(ne) の(no) ん(n) h は(ha) ひ(hi) ふ(fu) へ(he) ほ(ho) m ま(ma) み(mi) む(mu) め(me) も(mo) y や(ya) ゆ(yu) よ(yo) r ら(ra) り(ri) る(ru) れ(re) ろ(ro) w わ(wa) ゐ(wi) ゑ(we) を(wo) KATAKANA a i u e o ∅ ア(a) イ(i) ウ(u) エ(e) オ(o) k カ(ka) キ(ki) ク(ku) ケ(ke) コ(ko) s サ(sa) シ(shi) ス(su) セ(se) ソ(so) t タ(ta) チ(chi) ツ(tsu) テ(te) ト(to) n ナ(na) ニ(ni) ヌ(nu) ネ(ne) ノ(no) ソ(n) h ハ(ha) ヒ(hi) フ(fu) ヘ(he) ホ(ho) m マ(ma) ミ(mi) ム(mu) メ(me) モ(mo) y ヤ(ya) ユ(yu) ヨ(yo) r ラ(ra) リ(ri) ル(ru) レ(re) ロ(ro) w ワ(wa) ヰ(wi) ヱ(we) ヲ(wo)
14:40 funny you mentioned this moment of usopp's fight or flight on live action, cause matt owens actually also said in recent stream with hasanabi (or other creator i kind of forgot cmiiw) that he also dissapointed this scene got cut out, cause editing takes place when writers strike happen so he didnt have any say for it, but they did actually shot this scene. I guess its a time limit and pace thing, opla makes usopp character really weak tbh i also kinda furious
I really enjoy these videos, and I love realizing things about the world of one piece that I would've never caught, I would love to see these podcasts on Spotify! Keep up the great content.
Question for Peach Pop, If I remember correctly he's an English teacher? If that's correct, Could he ever see himself using One Piece in his classes as a teaching mechanism? Idk if that's a dumb question or not, just thought how cool it would have been to have as homework "Read East Blue of One Piece"
Almost had this conversation today while enjoying lunch with Desnes the Dwarf. Yes, I can see myself teaching OP. Not certain how, but students would love it. - Dad
As the videos may get more spaced. It could be nice to have some bits of what's happening. Maybe shorts with audio or text from your conversations. Or posts on community tab like dad is on that moment. Of pictures of his notes. I dont know, could be nice but it's fine to wait too.
It probably sucks being spoiled, but it has also now given a small taste of how it feels to re-read through the series and how some scenes really hit differently when you know the full context
Oda is the defenition of a confident writer. As you stated, he kept everything secret from his audience for 2 years, writing 100 chapters as the damn prologue of his story... which is why it's Logue Town (the town of prologue and epilogue) which also clues us in that the last chapters might be in Logue town. Although, that's just speculation, but it would fit with the word play. And this guy is BIG on his word play.
I'm not going to lie to you. There are several moments in the series where there's been a significant reveal, and certain portions of the fandom just... full on rioted at the reveal. Hated it, hated the inclusion, thought it ruined the setting. And then people sat down, thought it out, and went through the earlier chapters and realized, "Oh. This thing has been hinted at since the start of the series. It was always in the story, we've seen it a dozen times already, we just lacked context for what we were seeing." Off hand I can think of three times, two of them in chapters that came out two or three years ago, that had hints (or maybe I should call it supporting evidence to the reveal) seeded through the story... I guess at this point, decades ago. Once you're caught up, you might be interested in reading the two Romance Dawn chapters, which were sort of pilots/teasers/proof of concepts that he submitted to the Weekly Shonen Jump magazine, where he purposefully obfuscated important plot elements for the proper series while also just blatantly, in your face showing off others. There's also a few "data books" that were put out that had Oda's first drafts of characters and so on, including his original concepts for the crew. Which can be a fascinating comparison once you have a proper footing in the series.
@@PorkChopsRiceandPeaches They mean Oda-sensei 's Q&A corner. You have mentioned in a previous video that you are not very fond of those because most of the questions made by fans seem too silly/pointless. To their defence: Yes, some of them are silly. But there are also ones who properly introduce or enrich characters, especially side or minor ones who have no time/space to shine (like PandaMan and Minatomo-san the carpenter). Also, some of the silly ones may be more important than you think. Prime example of this is the question about the crew's favourite foods, which is used much later in the story to highlight the tragedy and true emotions of a certain character (Also, in modern Japanese culture your favourite/most hated food, as well as your blood type, say a lot about a person's character. So think of it as a way to know these characters better). Lastly, because of the lack of space/time Oda-sensei started using the SBSs as a way to give us additional actual information about the OnePiece world. So you can think of them as footnotes or something 😅
I think Luffy values his life. He wouldnt throw it away for no reason. The thing is: he will live his life with no regrets and he knows his priorities. He is going after his dream which will make him the pirate king and if he dies, he dies happy because he was pursuing his dream and he knows he did his best. And he will fight for his friends and not run away from any fight even if it means death. And he's fine with that. And yet there are many character development moments with luffy I will mention 2 of the arcs in which these moments happen, so spoilers? Drum island when they arrive Sabaody when he gives the order to run
There's a very intersting scene during Baratie regarding this with Sanji being willing to sacrificing his life for the restaurant and thus Zeff's dream and Luffy maybe a bit surprisingly with how reckless he can be with his own life sometimes yelling at him and calling him an idiot for it, thinking back to Shanks saving him and losing his arm, and telling Sanji this is not how you repay someone saving your life. But then in contrast to that and in the same arc, he never interferes with Zoro clearly being at the mercy of Mihawk in terms of dying when going after his own dream and he lets him go through with it and only goes after Mihawk after it "is done". I think the very important notion here is that Luffy thinks it's perfectly fine to risk your life for YOUR dream, that's to him what life is literally there for. It's almost the notion of if you aren't doing what you want most is it even fully living your life? And then yes, further than that he is also willing to risk his own life for those people that are his friends and doing that almost as a stand in if they aren't quite strong enough but still willing. But where he draws the line is sacrificing yourself and your own dream simply for someone else. Putting someone else's dream above your own and holding yourself back for the sake of someone else is I think what is the difference there and the line where Luffy disagrees. When Luffy fights Don Krieg or Arlong then yeah he might also be doing it for Zeff, Sanji and especially then Nami, but he ALSO is doing it for himself and his dream not instead of. He wants to be the Pirate King and thus he himself wants to be able to beat these people, so he isn't chosing his dream and his life to be less valuable than someone elses, but his own dream and life now simply encompasses the others as well and as long as he's giving it his all, he is ok maybe even dying this way. That's why I think Sanji's way of sacrifice is so different and upsetting to him. Sanji fighting and risking his life for Zeff isn't the issue but Sanji refusing to also fight for himself in the process is.
@@kerwe3447 @kerwe3447 oh yeah totally agree. Just trying to summarize to see if i got your points. Basically he didnt interfere in zoros fight because it was a duel and part of the journey to achieve his dream. Another moment that was a duel and luffy didnt interfere (our boy is consistent) was Zoro's and Cabaji's fight. And when Luffy is putting his life on the line for someone he loves is different from Sanji not fighting Pearl and Gin while being kinda satisfied with the whole "sacrifice to pay Zeff back" mindset
@@matheuspastorelli3925 yeah, exactly what I mean. Sanji in that moment with his action is essentially saying he himself and his own dream doesn't matter as much so he can just die to save Zeff. And I think it's that "devaluing" of himself that Luffy opposes there. Risking your life to save someone and fighting to the best of your ability is fine, simply trading your life for someone else especially when that person already did everything in their power to save you and clearly cares as much and more about you than just that restaurant, isn't. It also speaks to Luffy recognizing what Zeff's "treasure" and dream really is. Yeah, the Baratie is important to Zeff but much more so is Sanji himself. So Sanji isn't even protecting what Zeff truely cares about, he is instead throwing it away in a misguided believe that the Baratie is what Zeff cares about more.
recording tips: Idk your setup but record in native resolution of your camera, the lag spikes is probably from encoding.just a guess. FOR NOAH'S EYES ONLY, DAD NOT ALLOWED TO READ MORE: idk what you meant by recent chapter connections because i dont know if 1120 is out by the time you two recorded, but the thing that sticks out for me is Atlas and her strength of will overpowering one of the Gorosei, thats just epic.
we really hope you catch up, be a shame if the mistery is gone by the time you get there and can't wait to be amazed by reverse mountain and the other incredible peaks of this story
Oda said even recently the story will finish in 5 years... But there is a theory floating around that he actually meant the in-world time following Luffy's journey, which has still not been 5 years (since Luffy's introduction, or when he left to become a pirate). If that is the case, it only comes down to how much detail Oda will give to his telling of the events, which could take many years more.
Yeah, this makes a lot more sense and plays well into Oda's subtext or hidden meanings as found throughout many story elements. I support this theory 😊
ゾロ or Zoro. ローグタウン or Loguetown. ロ is pronounced as Ro. However in Japanese, there's no way to write "Lo" in Japanese. So while it is written as ローグタウン, it is intended to be Loguetown.
This was when I fully got sucked into the story as well. There is a place in the future that made me a fanatic. I look forward to seeing where yours is.
"loguetown" as in epilogue and prologue
The beginning and end
Town of the Beginning and the End@@lesq555
You're the second person to tell me that today! - Dad
@@PorkChopsRiceandPeaches definitely not the last
@@PorkChopsRiceandPeaches I like to mention that also is kinda a wordplay prologue town
Smoker's reaction to the little girl is the direct opposite of Morgan/helmeppo.
do you have to go back 100 chapters to catch the foreshadowing? yup this is part of the experience
I don't think it's necessary but if you do enhances a lot which is great.
Not gonna lie sometimes its closer to 1000 😂
The L and R in japanese can be used inter-changeably, honestly when japanese people pronounce ra, ri, ru, re, ro you can hear they make a sound that resembles both R and L, this will also be evident with Alabasta/Arabasta.
Also! Its LOGUE TOWN for Roger's Epilogue and Luffy's Prologue Adventure.
Thats why its called the Town of Beginnings and Endings.
Much in this same way, Zolo is actually Zoro and Rogue town is Logue Town and Ruffy is Luffy
and bellies (the currency) is berries
I still call Alabasta…. Because I started watching One piece anime first…
@@arahcozy im with arabasta, i like the desert correlation to "ARAB" countries.
@@TooMuchCarbs Funny, I always tied it to alabaster stone and Egypt. Especially since Vivi's family name is Nefertari which was the name of an Egyptian queen. You also have Pell and Chaka represented as Horus and Anubis. There is a lot that ties it to Egypt specifically.
Congrats on completing the tutorial of One Piece.
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Fun fact, In Nami's arc, the character Genzo has a pinwheel, it was the only thing that made Nami smile as a child, at the end of the arc with Nami leaving, Genzo puts the pinwheel on Nami's mother's grave, and who made Nami smiling again is luffy, who comes from a town called foosha village which literally means windmill village, the author oda loves to do hidden things like that, in this case something going a whole circle
Nice points! Thank you. - Dad
I always thought Luffy smiled because of what he said during the first chapters. I’m okay if I die following my dream. His smile was to show he was happy with how he lived his life. Regardless of how short it almost was.
Let's go! We also love drawk and Mama-drawk here!
Also, im sad we didnt see dad cry 😅 stupid technical issues.
Time for backup recording tools!
Although I was happy we got some thoughts, that weren't in the original recording.
@@rac_counWe have plans for better tech. - Dad
Getting a fresh perspective on One Piece is always refreshing, but the literary analysis that goes into these videos is heartwarming to hear as a fan of the show and manga for years. This series of you guys coming together to discuss One Piece as a family has very quickly become my favorite thing to listen to/watch. You can never go back and experience something for the first time again and that joy that you're getting from reading makes me jealous. But I cannot wait for more chapter reviews as the more you progress, the more you will too fall in love with the greatest piece of fiction I have ever experienced.
@@hakimanshanks Thank you. This comment is... wonderful. Thank you. - Dad
One of the things I love about One Piece is, that the world moves independently from our characters. It's best to remember everything, because you never know who or what can have a massive impact hundreds of chapters in the future.
And it's always worth going back and thinking about every line, seriously, I'd never thought about those lines 42:55 like that at all... then again I didn't remember them being written at this point.
Luffy values his life, just less than other things, like pursuing his dream. He knows pursuing kop can't be done if you're scared to die. Also, him jumping into fights without a plan is part of his plan. Him being rubber, and thus super durable, allows him to take hits while observing his opponents. And he's been rubber since he was a child. So he never learned to not stick his finger in the electric socket, you know? He just sticks it in and sees what happens. Luffy doesn't have to be worried as much. His bones don't break. He doesn't need to study before he fights, he can study while he fights.
14:27 matt owens the showrunner said they filmed usopp’s monologue and deciding to fight but it was cut during the writers strike which was quite unfortunate
I wanna Say I am very happy you are enjoying One Piece. As an also Older Individual. (40) I started reading it in its weekly Shonen Jump releases while I was in High School. This was JUST as anime and manga were actually getting popular in the US. But was still far from Main Stream. And One Piece was considered the weakest of the Big 3. (Bleach Naruto and One Piece) But its Gone on to be the longest lasting and best selling with perhaps the biggest fan base.
Also I loved your take on Oda evolving as a writer. Yes you will see it a lot. There is most certainly gradual shifts in certain directions. And even a few course corrections. Its all a wild ride.
And Yes. I also love smoker because before our view was of the Navy being bad guys mostly with a few ok ones. Smoker being a Higher ranked officer and also so strong but so kind and taking actual justice seriously was a great way of showing the Navy is neither the good or bad guys. Pirates are not good or bad guys either. its down to the person.
Awesome conversation like always !
Thank you! - Dad
12:07 Oda stated that the addition of the 7 warlords of the sea is what caused the series to go beyond the 5 years he intended.
Not exactly: He said that the warlords alone added at least 15 years. He never said that they are solely responsible for going more than 5 years. Oda explained this in 2017 when he already knew that it would take at least 27 years to finish the series.
@@f.carasind4188 well, those added 15 years let more characters/plots enter which added more to the series' run time. XD
@@TooMuchCarbs Exactly this is already included in the 15 years estimate.
@@f.carasind4188oh ok, gotcha
yes but if you go back, he made his mind up the first few chapters of Arlong Park arc, where they are leaving the Baratie and either Johnny or Yosaku are explaining to Luffy about the dangers of the Grand Line and that there are those 7 war lords. so even back then, he had decided upon it, since it was first mentioned back then.
Dragon's relationship with luffy was the only spoiler I spoiled on myself. I steered clear of the wiki from then on 😂
Well… just finished the video what a great analysis from your father i never even thought of the three panels representing their relationship.
Some more info you might have missed is that loguetown is called the town of the beginning and the end. It is the place where the great pirate era begun, that is also why the first episode of the season 2 of the live action will the be called “the beginning and the end”.
As for the foreshadowing, YES many things are teased, even chapter one has some insane foreshadowing that will be understood later on in the story, Oda has always had a plan of where the story might go so he is able to mention characters and things that we learn more about hundreds of chapters later.
It's actually amazing how many seeds get planted so early on. Even off-hand comments can be foreshadowing.
About luffy not having much regard for his life thing, on chapter 2, Coby confronts him about that and Zeff reiterates on chapter 65, those two pieces of conversation showed young me what Luffy was about. So i think it is worth to have a look there!
Smiling in the face of death is such an amazing theme in the series. Pay attention when it happens
one of the best analysis out there. pleasure
Thank you. You are very kind. - Dad
So glad you mentioned the Tashigi and Zoro bit. I feel like no one really appreciates her as a character, but I always thought that their dynamic could be really interesting if Zoro's psychology could be explored more deeply through her.
I actually believe this is going to happen somehow. Just like Smoker is linked to Luffy. I think Tashigi may be for Zoro. Zoro and Buggy definitely showing up for more story. And Tashigi may be there.
They had great chemistry! - Dad
I freaking love your notes.
18:12 "Wow ive never seen an Execution before!" its your EXECUTION!!!!!!!!
Omg the notes. Love that.
Chapter 100, the town of beginings and ends... LOGUE TOWN the proLOGUE Ends and the real story Begins...
I don't know if this has ever been confirmed by Oda: Apperently, it's Loguetown, pronounced as "log-town", like prologue and epilogue. It's famously the birthplace and place of death of Gold Roger.
About the romanization aspect of Rogue or Logue, "ロ" can be read as "ro" or "lo". Japanese people usually don't differentiate between the two. What they actually say in conversation can sound like either.
In Japanese the ロ or ろ is a mix between ro and lo. A literal mix. Which is why it's pretty convenient for made-up words, to have doubble meanings.
At least that's the standard way of speaking japanese. Some people, which I guess have speach imparements, heavily make it an "RRRR" rolling sound, and some a "llllll" no R at all sound. Not sure those are dialects, however I might be wrong.
But basically what you need to remember, is that if the word is made up, such as ラフテル it is impossible to know if the first charachter is supposed to be Ra or La. Hence... some misunderstandings.
Found this excerpt from a cursory googling:
“号 or the -go suffix is normally used to name naval (aka war) ships in Japan. If you want get the equivalent in English, is the same as S.S. Name of the Ship used by the US. One Piece is just following the same naming convencion”
So calling it the Going Merry-go is a bit of a pun on the naming convention. At least that’s how always read it
It's just the counter for ships. In the japanese language, if you are counting something you need to put a "counter" suffix on the end of that noun, that is always specific to a group of things.
Yeah, Oda really hit a home run in Arlong Park, he got it down in onepiece.
Even the pinwheel thing is ridiculous, it never stopped getting good here.
In regards to the lo/ro sounds, as many have said, in Japanese they are the same character that people just use whichever sound of. It's very likely that Oda, with his love of playing with words and language, would deliberately use that to his advantage when it comes to naming things so that they have multiple meanings using both sounds.
Roguetown fits because it's a place filled with rogues headed to the Grand Line.
Loguetown fits because it's called the town of the Beginning (pro-LOG-ue) and end (epi-LOG-ue). I fully believe Oda decided "Why not both?" because this is not the first time we'll have Ro/Lo issues when it comes to names for stuff and have both words work when representing the named thing by their meaning.
I totally agree with you!
And this is not the only time this happens. Apart from the double interpretation of R/L, there are a literal ton of things that are referring more than one thing, many times across various cultures/languages too.
Oda-sensei is genius like that.
Love that thought about Garp, Dragon and Luffy. I think though that the themes can be tied to each of them throughout the story, and that there's not a one-to-one parallel. I think Noah's right that all those are themes of the entire story to come.
If he doesn’t want spoilers he may want to avoid Mom Piece because she makes some incredibly good predictions at a very early stage
@garretbell9915 Thanks for the warning. I've only listened to a part of one episode. I'm avoiding as much info about OP as I can. I skip all comments where commentors give a spoiler warning and let Noah handle them. It's all good. - Dad
To be fair, she also gets some predictions wrong, and for someone who is new to the story they won't know which predictions will be true until they get there. So I'd say it's ok to watch Mom Piece unless you don't want her thinking influencing how you read the manga, and personally I think it's more fun to listen to her afterwards for a new perspective.
Another thing I love about the whole scene with "Nami's room" is how it shows Nami's resilience and inner strength.
Arlong enslaving her and forcing her to sail the seas and make maps is basically like tainting her dream. But Nami doesn't abandon it despite her trauma, neither does she despise her natural gift for navigation. Now free and with true nakama, she dreams even bigger.
And I think this is a beautiful message that actually speaks more to older audiences.
Many people who actually manage to make their hobby their job and thus making their dream reality, often lose their passion or initial drive for it because their dream becomes tainted by the harsh reality that is adulthood and everything a "job" entails.
This is actually pretty common in the manga industry in Japan where deadlines are tight and the competitiveness is extraordinary. Knowing about Oda-sensei 's own brutal ungodly schedule, I find it amazing how he tries to inspire even his fellow mangaka (or future mangaka) in this way.
So regarding the use of L and R from Japanese to English, the confusion in translations comes from the fact that the Japanese language does not use the A-Z alphabet, they use Hiragana, Katakana and Kanji characters, which is an entirely different phonetic and writing system from the English alphabet. In the Japanese writing/speaking system, there's only ラリルレロ (pronounced "ra, ri, ru, re, ro", which does NOT have a strong rolling R sound, but sounds more like a mix between L and R to a non-Japanese speaker), and these 5 characters are used to pronounce/translate both L's and R's in the English language.
Loguetown/Roguetown for example, is written as ローグタウン ("ro-gu taun"), and whether the translator chooses to write it as L or R, it would still make a reasonable name for the town. So unless Oda specifically write out the name in English letters, there's no way for the translator to know which is the correct answer. What it comes down to would be context clues, since this place is referred to as the "town of beginnings and ends", Loguetown is the preferred translation since it would in reference to proLOGUE and epiLOGUE.
On a small side note, there's a lot of borrowed English words that Japanese people use on a daily basis. For example, table = テーブル ("te-buru"), regardless of the L or R in the original word, the Japanese reading would still be ル ("ru"). That's why English is often a very hard language for them to learn to write, because Japanese is a phonetic language, each character they use is a syllable they pronounce, but English has a bunch of silent letters and compound sounds like "qu-", "-eau", "-ue", "-ph", "-th". Unless they have prior knowledge of the English word, whether to write it with an L or an R is pretty much a 50/50 gamble, and the vice versa is true when it comes to translating from Japanese to English here.
You guys t-shirts matching are great! // You saw Drawk! I love when everybody connects!
Loved the discussion about pacing in writing and reading weekly. I had the same realization reading Bleak House by Dickens. Since it was originally published weekly, each chapter ends with a cliffhanger or a dramatic moment. That book was thick af, but I kept getting scandalized, I couldn't put it down. 😂
Thank you for the great discussion. I wanted to add some context to the meta conversation revolving around the medium of manga and how you’re essentially binging a series that was written and originally consumed at a weekly rate. One piece and many of the manga you may be familiar with is released weekly in a magazine called Weekly Shonen Jump. Basically an anthology with all the new chapters for the series you’ve been following. Because of this each manga has to keep audiences hooked week to week lest they risk be dropped by WSJ. So you call the volumes you’re reading ‘books’ which for all intents and purposes is correct. Keep in mind that the volumes are compilations of chapters as opposed to conventional novels that are released as a whole story, broken into chapters. So while a novel may drag at points or have chapters that set up it’s unlikely see a manga do so. Or get away without. That said one piece is now such a global phenomenon that it’s unlikely that it’s even remotely close to the chopping block. But certainly something to keep in mind especially early days.
It's Nojiko that says to Genzo: "They're fighting for my little sister" not the other way around. Genzo is Nami and Nojiko's fatherly figure.
@@bcool9272 TY - Dad
Lol I can't even get mad at him for googling that. I did the same thing. I read who he was as was like "oh... oops."
I think it's also important to add for background knowledge purpose that One Piece is published in Weekly Shounen Jump (WSJ). The magazine provides a survey with each volume and rank the on-going series in its catalogue based on the feedback its readers send in via the mail. This means all the series in WSJ are in a constant state of competition against one another. The higher ranked a series the more likely it gets push up the table of content for each week (though with some delays and buffers), so it's more likely to be shown to new eyes. When series do poorly for some time they risk cancellation, and generally a series would be forced to wrap up its story in time for the debut of a new series that replaces it. This cycle happens every 3-6 months, an amount of time that let a series produce enough chapters to be bound into 1-2 volumes.
One Piece has been continuing for 20 years in this environment and has consistently sits among the top, but in the beginning before it had proved itself One Piece was just like any other series that need to try and make every chapter interesting enough to stay afloat. Although Oda did plan the world and the story beforehand, there were so many uncertainty to whether he would've been able to complete the story or be forced to change the direction of the story by the editor*, which has happened before to several other sereis. This is why it was aimed for 5 years. One PIece was Oda's first series, so as a rookie that was the expectation of success. Back then there were series that while considered a success, had lasted for only around 2-3 years before they were forced out.
* One Piece is not free from this though not as drastic as some other series. For example, Logue Town was a case where Oda was forced to rush and had to cut out stuff because his editor wanted him to end Logue Town by chapter 100 so they could start Reverse Mountain on chapter 101. Chapter 100 was scheduled for a colour page for the chapter title and the title "The Legend Has Begun".
@@niello5944 That’s very interesting. Thank you for sharing this information. Somehow, I think Oda would have found a way to keep publishing if he had been canceled. - Dad
Why. Did. You. Look. Up. Dragon! Ahhhhhhhhh!! 🤣🤣🤣
Every question will be answered when it’s important.
Forgive me, please. I'll never do it again! - Dad
@@PorkChopsRiceandPeaches
Good. It's for your own good, as there are some spoilers that will kinda ruin half of the story. Never google until you're caught up!!!!!
@@UltraBall23 No more. I promise! - Dad
What a fantastic video! Sorry you guys ran into so many technical issues, but Dad clearly saved it with how much he wanted to geek out about One Piece! This was a great watch, looking forward to the next one
@@whatever0517 Thank you!- Dad
I'm glad you mentioned Drwak show and their, first read throughs of One Piece as well, I also came across their videos when I started my own read and I was a little bit ahead of ManaDrawk so I kept going along with them. But in addition MamaDrawk also wanted to avoid spoilers so what she did that I find Brilliant is she used ChatGPT to look up questions about characture names or related mythology that she wanted to look up but added a prompt to ChatGPT to "avoid all mentions of One Piece"
One thing that I really love about people getting into One Piece is their initial reaction to the series compared to later down the line. There's a bit of skepticism when people first start it due to how wacky it is, but the gradual change to love and excitement for the series is always amazing to see. Glad that you're enjoying your One Piece journey!
Also despite your Tech difficulties it was a good video with excellent commentary.
Thank you! - Dad
Oda had to rush Logue Town because it was his goal to have the proLOGUE of the story end in chapter 100 exactly... a couple of characters were left out from logue town and they were actually shown only in the anime like Daddy mathers (i think that was the name) which didn't make it into the manga but did make it into the anime. Unless it was just a really old rumor...
That Hag comment, disrespecting so many characters down the line.
@@mikesstuff5307 I reserve the right to correct myself, apologize, or double-down in future videos. 😃 - Dad
@@PorkChopsRiceandPeaches reserve away!
46:03 Already a theory channel, priceless Noah face haha Honestly, the enthusiam to look for Dragon is heartwarming. Sure, you could ruin some of the experience but it is the evidence of how euphoric you are with One Piece. That's cool.
Another great video, thanks and keep having fun.
The re-readability of this manga always blows my mind
i hope you get a Chance to see the full covers for the volumes!!! its a Crime they arent at least included inside of these Omnibus volumes.
5:36 oh Great! ofcourse you were COMPELLED to seek out the full image!!! lol
The R and L thing in japanese comes from japanese having only alphabets for ra, ri, ru, re and ro. But for some reason they are pronounced more like la, li, lu, le, lo. And this is why if you write a foreign word like rogue or logue it's really hard to know which one it really means because it can be either.
Thank you ❤
It's mainly because Japanese use their tongue differently than us non Japanese. L and R sounds have similar movement but different tongue positions. Just like how British, American, and Australian position their tongue differently when they speak and they sound different.
Btw they are not alphabets, they're syllabary (the more you know😉). That's why Japanese have limited combinations of tongue movement and positions, and may struggle to pronounce foreign words.
@@hardboil4033 True. I'm not a native english speaker so tried to explain it the most simple way possible.
@@kissaku the simple way is there's no L sounds in Japanese. Unless they're foreign words, the closest sound to L sound is R sound. That's why Japanese Romanisation have option like Loguetown or Roguetown.
The Drawk Show! Don't watch too many of their videos tho. Mama Drawk is so good at analysis and prediction that it's almost like spoilers even tho she doesn't know anything.
That said, I'd kill for a collab someday.
You’re in for a ride that we all wish we can go on again for the first time. Congratulations!
Oda's been foreshadowing since Chapter 1. You'll eventually see that. That said, there's arguments that Oda's just really good at linking back to previous stuff, but that in and of itself is a big skill, and even then he'd have to know what to link back to. That shows he knows his story extremely well, from panel 1, onwards.
Possible spoiler below, so don't open unless caught up.
One could say the style he chose to draw OP in is, in itself, a foreshadowing of what is to come. The many instances of sun being shown with luffy in the background. Did anyone else notice Luffy's stance in the colour panel he showed with Nami in the foreground? Because that was VERY Nika.
I genuinely love your insight and first impressions. I'm a fan of the show and the manga since I'm 8 years old, I'm the same age as Noah. And I agree, this is the best time ever to read this beautiful story and experience the joy of the finale. Please take your time and enjoy, I'll be looking forward to your new videos nakama :D
YAY new video! So happy!
Always a delight when I see these in my feed 🙌
Thank you! -Dad
Love this. And your relationship with your dad!
when I read chapter 100 was back (early 2011, iirc) I also went and spoiled myself with looking up Dragon XD ... and mentioning of the panels really is amazing, never put that together myself... and as you talked about it, I was thinking, i have never seen anyone else putting that together, totally forgetting that without the spoiler it really is quite a leap XD
Smokers intro is one of my favourites in a story in general, i think
I never pressed on a video so fast lets do this
my only regret for loguetown is the bar scene with luffy is technically anime only filler but its still headcanon to me darn it id recommend watching it to anyone just shows the trouble Luffy and Zoro will get into without a babysitter
Not sure if I am late for the party, but here is what I understand from my japanese studies.
There is no "L" sound in the japanese language (download a Hiragana/Katakana sheet and you will see there is no section for "R" particles). However, their "R" sounds are softer then in the english language and if you let your thongue relax while repeating the "R" sound in a word you will notice it will start sounding a bit like an "L".
So, when they trnslate a propper name from japanese to english they take into consideration the Japanese phonetics where "R" sounds like "L".
The names of many characters in Onepiece a written in Katakana. For example, ゾロ, which using a Katakana table translates to "zoro" but a japanese would pronounce it closer to "zolo".
Luffy's name technically is ルフイ(the last particle should be a quarter of the size, but i don't have a Japanese keyboard), which translates directly to RuFui more or less. This is because the "F" sounds are also not present in the japanese language except for フ(Fu). In order to simulate our sounds they combine フ with vowel particles to make similar sounds.
VERY MINOR SPOILERS AHEAD:
I think Logue Town makes more sense since this is where you are supposed to acquire a Log Pose. I always assumed Logue Town came from this fact. Log -> Logue
So, the R & L thing is similar to Japanese B & V sounds. They overlap and are interchangeable in both the writing of Hiragana or Katakana. Hiragana being the phonetic language for Japanese words and Katakana being the phonetic language for foreign loan words and foreign names. In these translation volumes, especially the early volumes of this 20+ year old ongoing manga several translations for proper nouns was caught up in the air. (L)(R)ogue Town is called the town of beginings and endings, the story's Prologue of Roger's execution happened there and the Epilogue of Roger's own journey was that execution. Logue town the town of beginnings (Prologue) and endings (Epilogue).
That in mind, there is an island that was recently mentioned or is about to be mentioned (I forget the exact location but there is a mention is coming up) where this and other considerations should be applied regarding the translation. Its a, you'll know it when you see it. And consider that in Japanese the consonants and vowel sounds we are familiar with are always paired. Sa, Se, Si, Su. Ta, te, ti, tu. Za, be, bi, bu etc etc and can create some structural inconsistencies where even loan words from English which we would otherwise recognize may take surprising and mistranslated forms.
...don't get me started on Kanji. That system of singular pictogram or multi pictograms being associated with words without phonetic considerations is what knocked me out of being able to successfully learn Japanese years ago.
Something I think about every now and then is how Luffy's family decreases in organization.
Garp -> a man trying to do right by people via government and military.
Dragon -> trying to do right by peole via an organized rebellion.
Luffy -> trying to do right by people via complete lawless freedom.
I think their family is such a cool way of showing those avenues/different level of structure.
Going back to Eastblue after 500+ chapters is somewhat better than this early on..but yeah you got it right.
Not cz of what happens in those 500+ but, with experiencing the characters for long enough, the little seeds are more clear.
I was waiting for this video! we're holding you to that promise.
16:38 In japanese Luffy often calls the Ship "Going Merry Go" "Merry Go" and Just "Going Merry" all are good In my Opinion
Yeah Luffy goes into fights with his believe in himself but not much strategy, sometimes while he has a very clear motive and a clear antagonist it isn't until he actually starts fighting that he figures out how he can actually help whomever he's fighting for. In this case it was by destroying Nami's prison which is so beautiful I get choked up if I think too hard about it.
You guys mentioned mom piece, I dropped them, but love the journey you guys are taking. Can't wait for the next one. Roger obviously was very "insightful" with his close, and he had certain information letting him know things. I think Oda always had a big reveal, and has been expanding on it for a long time.
I would like to have you think about combinations of the Straw hats. I love Usopp, but sometimes it's a combination of two Straw hats together. Like Sanji and Zoro, the way they can be. How Sanji is with Nami, How Usopp and Luffy are, how Usopp and Nami sync up. I'd love to know your favourite pairings. Excited for big chunk videos. Always a good watch.
W for finishing the intro
Excited for this watch, had people down from out of town, now i have time to watch all my youtube, starting with some nice Pork Chops, Rice and Peaches
Super dope video, happy that you are enjoying the story so much
Appreciate it
in the Japanese "alphabet" (hiragana(native), katakana (foreign)) all of them end in a vowel sound, for example hiragana (a(あ), i(い), u (う), e(え), o(お)) ,
katakana (a(ア), i(イ), u(ウ), e(エ), o(オ)) ,
the fact is there are no L or R sounds in the language as a whole there is only a sound between the two, so when they try to say a word in a foreign language they use the closest sound they have in that language which is one of the following:
Hiragana (ra\la (ら), ri\li(り), ru\lu(る), re\le(エ), ro\lo(オ))
Katakana (ra\la (ラ), ri\li(リ), ru\lu(ル), re\le(レ), ro\lo(ロ))
pronouncing them is tricky and depends on the accent, but to put it simply, try to make an L and an R sound at the same time.
another example of that is that there is no sound for "see" so if you try to say
"Cesare" would be pronounced
"shiza" as follows
"shi-za-a" in kana(セザー) (the dash is for extending the last vowel sound)
There is one exception to the vowel thing and that is the N sound
Below is a full table of base hiragana (more curvy) and katakana (more angular) if you are interested
HIRAGANA
a i u e o
∅ あ(a) い(i) う(u) え(e) お(o)
k か(ka) き(ki) く(ku) け(ke) こ(ko)
s さ(sa) し(shi) す(su) せ(se) そ(so)
t た(ta) ち(chi) つ(tsu) て(te) と(to)
n な(na) に(ni) ぬ(nu) ね(ne) の(no) ん(n)
h は(ha) ひ(hi) ふ(fu) へ(he) ほ(ho)
m ま(ma) み(mi) む(mu) め(me) も(mo)
y や(ya) ゆ(yu) よ(yo)
r ら(ra) り(ri) る(ru) れ(re) ろ(ro)
w わ(wa) ゐ(wi) ゑ(we) を(wo)
KATAKANA
a i u e o
∅ ア(a) イ(i) ウ(u) エ(e) オ(o)
k カ(ka) キ(ki) ク(ku) ケ(ke) コ(ko)
s サ(sa) シ(shi) ス(su) セ(se) ソ(so)
t タ(ta) チ(chi) ツ(tsu) テ(te) ト(to)
n ナ(na) ニ(ni) ヌ(nu) ネ(ne) ノ(no) ソ(n)
h ハ(ha) ヒ(hi) フ(fu) ヘ(he) ホ(ho)
m マ(ma) ミ(mi) ム(mu) メ(me) モ(mo)
y ヤ(ya) ユ(yu) ヨ(yo)
r ラ(ra) リ(ri) ル(ru) レ(re) ロ(ro)
w ワ(wa) ヰ(wi) ヱ(we) ヲ(wo)
Great comment! Thanks for this 🙏
To the Grand Line
damn ... i found another treasure again in youtube 🎉❤
So happy 😂
@@darxgomstd7896 Thank you. - Dad
14:40 funny you mentioned this moment of usopp's fight or flight on live action, cause matt owens actually also said in recent stream with hasanabi (or other creator i kind of forgot cmiiw) that he also dissapointed this scene got cut out, cause editing takes place when writers strike happen so he didnt have any say for it, but they did actually shot this scene. I guess its a time limit and pace thing, opla makes usopp character really weak tbh i also kinda furious
Thank you for adding this to the conversation. I'm glad it was filmed. Maybe someday we'll see a director 's cut with additional scenes. - Dad
I really enjoy these videos, and I love realizing things about the world of one piece that I would've never caught, I would love to see these podcasts on Spotify! Keep up the great content.
14:51 Yes yes yes This is one of the Reasons we Love Ussop!
Question for Peach Pop, If I remember correctly he's an English teacher? If that's correct, Could he ever see himself using One Piece in his classes as a teaching mechanism? Idk if that's a dumb question or not, just thought how cool it would have been to have as homework "Read East Blue of One Piece"
Almost had this conversation today while enjoying lunch with Desnes the Dwarf. Yes, I can see myself teaching OP. Not certain how, but students would love it. - Dad
As the videos may get more spaced. It could be nice to have some bits of what's happening. Maybe shorts with audio or text from your conversations. Or posts on community tab like dad is on that moment. Of pictures of his notes. I dont know, could be nice but it's fine to wait too.
Will do! Thanks for the suggestion. - Dad
It probably sucks being spoiled, but it has also now given a small taste of how it feels to re-read through the series and how some scenes really hit differently when you know the full context
44:54 That's what im thinking!!!. Odaaaa I can't 😭
Curse you technological difficulties 😂 it happens no worryies
34:36 this is Nojiko saying "Its my little sister" they fighting for. i believe.
One of us....one of us 😂 glad u r enjoying it so much ✌
Found your videos a few days ago and here you are sending a new one. Logue Town was great.
Oda is the defenition of a confident writer. As you stated, he kept everything secret from his audience for 2 years, writing 100 chapters as the damn prologue of his story... which is why it's Logue Town (the town of prologue and epilogue) which also clues us in that the last chapters might be in Logue town. Although, that's just speculation, but it would fit with the word play. And this guy is BIG on his word play.
I just love this!!🎉🎉🎉
Oda balances different emotions very well✨
~I keep on editing..
It's wild how much we smile/cry/rage in a span of a few panels over this story.
45:16 funny guy and funny animal (if you know you know)
I'm not going to lie to you. There are several moments in the series where there's been a significant reveal, and certain portions of the fandom just... full on rioted at the reveal. Hated it, hated the inclusion, thought it ruined the setting.
And then people sat down, thought it out, and went through the earlier chapters and realized, "Oh. This thing has been hinted at since the start of the series. It was always in the story, we've seen it a dozen times already, we just lacked context for what we were seeing." Off hand I can think of three times, two of them in chapters that came out two or three years ago, that had hints (or maybe I should call it supporting evidence to the reveal) seeded through the story... I guess at this point, decades ago.
Once you're caught up, you might be interested in reading the two Romance Dawn chapters, which were sort of pilots/teasers/proof of concepts that he submitted to the Weekly Shonen Jump magazine, where he purposefully obfuscated important plot elements for the proper series while also just blatantly, in your face showing off others. There's also a few "data books" that were put out that had Oda's first drafts of characters and so on, including his original concepts for the crew. Which can be a fascinating comparison once you have a proper footing in the series.
Are you guys going to be talking about the sbs books because I would love to hear the banter about those as well.
SBS? - Dad
@@PorkChopsRiceandPeaches They mean Oda-sensei 's Q&A corner.
You have mentioned in a previous video that you are not very fond of those because most of the questions made by fans seem too silly/pointless.
To their defence: Yes, some of them are silly. But there are also ones who properly introduce or enrich characters, especially side or minor ones who have no time/space to shine (like PandaMan and Minatomo-san the carpenter). Also, some of the silly ones may be more important than you think. Prime example of this is the question about the crew's favourite foods, which is used much later in the story to highlight the tragedy and true emotions of a certain character (Also, in modern Japanese culture your favourite/most hated food, as well as your blood type, say a lot about a person's character. So think of it as a way to know these characters better).
Lastly, because of the lack of space/time Oda-sensei started using the SBSs as a way to give us additional actual information about the OnePiece world. So you can think of them as footnotes or something 😅
it's logue town, as in prologue
I think Luffy values his life. He wouldnt throw it away for no reason. The thing is: he will live his life with no regrets and he knows his priorities. He is going after his dream which will make him the pirate king and if he dies, he dies happy because he was pursuing his dream and he knows he did his best. And he will fight for his friends and not run away from any fight even if it means death. And he's fine with that. And yet there are many character development moments with luffy
I will mention 2 of the arcs in which these moments happen, so spoilers?
Drum island when they arrive
Sabaody when he gives the order to run
YES! I was struggling to put this into words but you got it! It's more about HOW he lives not IF he lives.
There's a very intersting scene during Baratie regarding this with Sanji being willing to sacrificing his life for the restaurant and thus Zeff's dream and Luffy maybe a bit surprisingly with how reckless he can be with his own life sometimes yelling at him and calling him an idiot for it, thinking back to Shanks saving him and losing his arm, and telling Sanji this is not how you repay someone saving your life. But then in contrast to that and in the same arc, he never interferes with Zoro clearly being at the mercy of Mihawk in terms of dying when going after his own dream and he lets him go through with it and only goes after Mihawk after it "is done".
I think the very important notion here is that Luffy thinks it's perfectly fine to risk your life for YOUR dream, that's to him what life is literally there for. It's almost the notion of if you aren't doing what you want most is it even fully living your life? And then yes, further than that he is also willing to risk his own life for those people that are his friends and doing that almost as a stand in if they aren't quite strong enough but still willing. But where he draws the line is sacrificing yourself and your own dream simply for someone else. Putting someone else's dream above your own and holding yourself back for the sake of someone else is I think what is the difference there and the line where Luffy disagrees. When Luffy fights Don Krieg or Arlong then yeah he might also be doing it for Zeff, Sanji and especially then Nami, but he ALSO is doing it for himself and his dream not instead of. He wants to be the Pirate King and thus he himself wants to be able to beat these people, so he isn't chosing his dream and his life to be less valuable than someone elses, but his own dream and life now simply encompasses the others as well and as long as he's giving it his all, he is ok maybe even dying this way.
That's why I think Sanji's way of sacrifice is so different and upsetting to him. Sanji fighting and risking his life for Zeff isn't the issue but Sanji refusing to also fight for himself in the process is.
@@kerwe3447 @kerwe3447 oh yeah totally agree.
Just trying to summarize to see if i got your points. Basically he didnt interfere in zoros fight because it was a duel and part of the journey to achieve his dream. Another moment that was a duel and luffy didnt interfere (our boy is consistent) was Zoro's and Cabaji's fight. And when Luffy is putting his life on the line for someone he loves is different from Sanji not fighting Pearl and Gin while being kinda satisfied with the whole "sacrifice to pay Zeff back" mindset
@@matheuspastorelli3925 yeah, exactly what I mean. Sanji in that moment with his action is essentially saying he himself and his own dream doesn't matter as much so he can just die to save Zeff. And I think it's that "devaluing" of himself that Luffy opposes there. Risking your life to save someone and fighting to the best of your ability is fine, simply trading your life for someone else especially when that person already did everything in their power to save you and clearly cares as much and more about you than just that restaurant, isn't.
It also speaks to Luffy recognizing what Zeff's "treasure" and dream really is. Yeah, the Baratie is important to Zeff but much more so is Sanji himself. So Sanji isn't even protecting what Zeff truely cares about, he is instead throwing it away in a misguided believe that the Baratie is what Zeff cares about more.
33:52 yes me too Door stop Boiyoiyoing!!!!!
recording tips: Idk your setup but record in native resolution of your camera, the lag spikes is probably from encoding.just a guess.
FOR NOAH'S EYES ONLY, DAD NOT ALLOWED TO READ MORE:
idk what you meant by recent chapter connections because i dont know if 1120 is out by the time you two recorded, but the thing that sticks out for me is Atlas and her strength of will overpowering one of the Gorosei, thats just epic.
53 minutes? Let's goooooooo
we really hope you catch up, be a shame if the mistery is gone by the time you get there and can't wait to be amazed by reverse mountain and the other incredible peaks of this story
Oda said even recently the story will finish in 5 years... But there is a theory floating around that he actually meant the in-world time following Luffy's journey, which has still not been 5 years (since Luffy's introduction, or when he left to become a pirate). If that is the case, it only comes down to how much detail Oda will give to his telling of the events, which could take many years more.
Yeah, this makes a lot more sense and plays well into Oda's subtext or hidden meanings as found throughout many story elements. I support this theory 😊
I am here for it, either way!
ゾロ or Zoro. ローグタウン or Loguetown. ロ is pronounced as Ro. However in Japanese, there's no way to write "Lo" in Japanese. So while it is written as ローグタウン, it is intended to be Loguetown.
This was when I fully got sucked into the story as well. There is a place in the future that made me a fanatic. I look forward to seeing where yours is.