The Boy Crisis,
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2018
- What is causing a worldwide Boy Crisis and how do we resolve it. A sobering look at the current state of boys in our society and what we must understand before we can help them. Mind Pump and Warren Farrell take a look at the #MeToo movement, the myth of male privilege, and more.
Dr. Warren Farrell is an American educator, activist and author of seven books on men's and women's issues., including the international bestsellers, Why Men Are the Way they Are, plus The Myth of Male Power. He is the only man in the U.S. to be elected three times to the Board of the National Organization for Women in NYC. and he is Chair of the Commission to Create a White House Council on Boys and Men. Warren has appeared on more than 1000 TV and radio shows, including numerous “ratings periods” for Oprah. GQ calls him (2015) the Martin Luther King of the men’s movement. Warren is currently co-authoring with John Gray the forthcoming The Boy Crisis.
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Timestamps!
• Why one sex is not bad and the other good. (0:01)
• Why men are the disposable sex. (9:00)
• How we have trained men to constantly test each other and disconnect from their feelings. (14:00)
• Why men earn more. (21:29)
• How has the feminist movement changed?(25:02)
• Why you have to do, what you have to do. The male obligation to support their family. (31:20)
• His thoughts on the movement to dissolve gender roles. (33:15)
• Where does the boy crisis reside? (43:19)
• Boy’s lives matter. (52:17)
• What are the consequences of being a child of divorce? (55:02)
• Statistics of children growing up without a father. (1:02:00)
• Why training children to win, comes with training children to lose. (1:17:30)
• Is victimhood a result of growing up without a father? (1:09:30)
• His take on the anti-bullying movement. (1:15:34)
• “I am women, I have been wronged.” His stance on the Kavanaugh investigation. (1:21:41)
• Whenever only one sex wins, both sexes lose. (1:27:32)
• The pivotal movement that got him to switch his stance on the NOW movement. (1:29:35)
• Why does he feel he gets so much hate? (1:34:16)
• Can the blame fall on politicians for the victimhood mentality? The gender pay gap. (1:36:23)
• What issues we will face in the future? (1:38:30)
• Why it’s not a good definition of power to feel obligated to earn money that someone spends, while we die early. (1:47:00)
• The value of training the concept of the Male Warrior. (1:52:30)
Holy fuck this is so pathetic.
@@rulindachatt I thought it was just me thinking the same.
@Tsukiko Yukiji So what's your point? Oh I get it!, Dudes are victims. Oh yeah I forgot they're an endangered species.
You are the real MVP
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My husband died from alcohol abuse at the age of 29. His mom was a single mom and she passed when he was 11. His dad was never around him, and his aunt took care of him after his mom passed. He was sensitive but the most kind, hard-working, funny and smart guy. I wish he had had a different experience when he was a kid.
Sorry to hear that about your husband. I had a good friend who passed around the same age from suicide. One of the major reasons being not because his father wasn't there physically - but because the father wasn't there emotionally. Essentially he acted as a bully, and wasn't supportive or nurturing emotionally when my friend needed it most. So after years of being a raging alcoholic and pot smoker, he finally ended up taking his life on Father's Day out of spite.
@@christopherarmstrong2710 14:00 the patriarchy
Can we just take a moment to appreciate how his voice sounds? Super chill
My father died when I was a young teenager and was raised up by my mom and can state that you hit the nail on so many subjects. Still working on things due to a fatherless childhood. This is a subject I would be very interested to listen more about.
Keep working, my friend. Don’t let it make you bitter.
I hate a similar situation. This video definately turned on some light bulbs and explained some problems I had in highschool and college. Its comforting and depressing at the same time
Sorry to hear about the passing of ur father. I'm sure u were a great kid...don't feel the need to change for anyone.
Same. And the worst part was that my mother was so dependent on my father that I had no support at my most vulnerable time in life. I have still not forgiven her for running away from her responsibilities as a mother and at the same time claiming to have made sacrifices for me.
@@mechanicalengineerturbo these things are incredibly difficult. x
damn this needs more views
Agreed, it's still criminally low (probably by design, ignorance, or both).
13:30 "...being willing to be disposable with being loved"
Just had to stop what I was doing and pause the vid for a sec.
You get used to it lol
at this point, you're disposable even if you're unloved and that's just how it be :/
Mind Pump, we cannot thank you enough for this.
Yeah hi, I’m 17 (boy) and I do feel a lot of what Warren Farrell says about how children might have issues when the father isn’t present, my mom and father are separated (and got separated when I was about 9-10 years) but they are good friends but I live about 80% at my mom and so I didn’t have the opportunity to experience that much father hood and I feel that I might have done better if there was a 50/50 or something like that. And after watching this video I feel I have picked up a lot of information which I am going to use if I get a kid
I would add something to what he said about fatherless children. While feminist leadership that exclusively focuses on women's issues is certainly a factor in it, rigid gender roles are also a big contributor. Traditional gender roles say that women are to be the sole caregivers of children and that men should be breadwinners. Men in general, and fathers in particular, are seen as more or less disposable to society. And I think a lot of fathers resent the idea that their value to society is based entirely on a paycheck. Although I'm not a father yet myself, I know just from being male that I don't want my contribution to my family or to society to be measured only by how much money I earn for them. I personally grew up without a father or other male role model present for most of my life, and from that experience I've become determined if and when I have kids to be involved in their lives. (I think I turned out OK, but I also had lots of loving and caring family who took care of me and made sure I was raised right.)
Ironically, the same feminist leaders who attack rigid gender constructs when they harm women are completely silent when men like Warren Farrell address how they hurt men as well. Even more hypocritical is how they say that women shouldn't have to be homemakers if they want to work outside home (with which I wholeheartedly agree), but then turn right around and say that women don't need a man in order to raise children. Never mind that working outside home keeps parents away from children by definition. If only more feminists and men's rights activists could realize that they're on the same team when it comes to challenging gender obligations, then maybe we could finally give fatherhood the respect it deserves and reduce the number of children who grow up without said fathers.
He basically addressed rigid gender roles by the the importance of men having the freedom to do things outside of just working and even doing social exercises of men and women switching.
Did you see the whole video?
@@yeilyn24 Did you read the comment?
@@FoxMcLoud-pt5ho Yes and Warren addressed what he added here in this comment, in the video lol
@@yeilyn24 ok
Months after this interview, men actually started a trend of getting "recorded consent" using their phones to try to video record their love partners giving consent.
Alberto Rangel 😳😳😳
A female can still say NO at any time, and consent is retracted..
Men also face the risk of being accused, and possibly convicted as a sexual molester or Rapist when,,,,, after re-evaluating a Sexual Encounter, the woman decides she was coerced. Using the retroactive NO option.
@D. Engelbrecht "often" ?
I guy, who a women knows well enough to be comfortable having intimate sexual contact with, suddenly becomes a psychopathic sadist when having intercourse.... that's BS.
But if a man can have a women charged and prosecuted for Rape, just by saying she became too rough and was causing injury/damage: I'm OK with "NO", and immediate Stop,,,, or Prison Time... A male accuser's word must be unquestionable, and enough to convict any female... No witness necessary..
There are dangerous female psychopaths too.
Affirmative consent is a ticket to the friend zone. And let's say you do get affirmative consent, she can still go back on her word and still blame you for sexually harassing her. So many cases like that where a man gets frame but a woman is always believed.
Gentlemen!! This is SO GOOD!! Thanks for the post. I'm gonna buy the book on audible!
Amazing podcast. The question and commentary are spot on and Dr Farrel has some serious and interesting things to say that really need more attention with all this current political climate.
This is absolutely brilliant, my husband highlighted his book. I think he speak so much sense! Of course mostly over generalised, there will be some women doing things that he says men do... And vice versa.
24:00 what Scandinavian countries is he talking ?
There is definitely a war on men. I was born and raised in Mexico in a conservative environment and the dance is still exactly as he described at the beginning. We resist and men insist. I adore the love dance the old fashioned way. 💝 I love for men to take the initiative and insist and persist.
You're one of the rare ones 😂
Great interview. I love these offtopic interviews.
It’s fun to see negative comments from people who didn’t even watch the video. But it also said because it says a lot about society. I live in Russia and gonna get some scholarship for study in US, but when I see what’s going on I don’t think I’m as excited about that anymore.
Nikita Kaymonov come to Texas you will enjoy it down here just get use to it being 125 degrees
Great discussion.
Truly as a feminist I couldn’t agree with him more.
Were going to have to do something big about this boy crisis soon, i will not have my son being told he is being oppressive simply because he is a man.
I appreciate your frequent point (and Farrell's) about the lack of father figures in young men's lives. I also believe that Farrell means well... as opposed to some in similar circles that are just out for profit and not benefit for their followers. I find that there is very nearly as much finger pointing and "shock" about what is now commonplace in men's rights circles as women's however. Along with that comes some purposeful blinding to outside issues that damage young men's success in society, like an obsession with standardized testing in public education and the troubling lack of privacy that young people of all genders suffer from today. Also, as an educator, there are some views about consent here that are pretty far disconnected from the reality of how youthful Americans live their lives. Still, this was a thought provoking listen and I'm glad Farrell didn't push some of his more outrageous viewpoints. Y'all give good interviews.
Can we just blow everything up and start over from scratch? Nobody's happy with anything.
Well, we do need a super bad guy right now
Excellent talk! God help our sons.
Love this podcast and how you guys are putting out videos. It’s probably not easy but define rly awesome to see
5:10 so true . Parking
At 52:00, one of the hosts states-and I paraphrase: "It's as if we(males) are more complex than we realize". I discovered this truth many years ago. Men have been cast as disposable Cro-Magnum lugs for too long. Be stoic, always. Roll over and play dead. Tough it out. Man up. Well I've been manning up my whole life. I will not be dictated what that looks like. I'm hard enough on myself
I'd sure hate to be 15 years old again... Wow... Just Wow...
What needs to happen in every country available, is that they start a legislation that has options, and support for the kids to have have both parents, with out the court system deciding this for us.
Then, maintain professionals to keep this research going, and every 10 years make adjustments to ensure the children are healthy to survive. We will evolve so much with this growth
Good video. Ignore the haters
Great conversation and right on with everything! What an intelligent Doctor! U all have great questions and answers to share with America and the world, so that everyone can understand better about what really happens and how to interact with the opposite sex, as well as how to live your own life. Thank u for sharing this and thank you to Dr Farrell!
His a Dr. in politics not biology. His books have also been roundly debunked. Hes a crank who pushes baseless lies.
@@fritolaid6805 nice try liberal!
@@fritolaid6805 u should learn that u can't believe everything u read or hear. He has factual information, not opinions. U should really analyze your sources. Just because he is a doctor for one thing does not mean he doesn't know what he is talking about. What he did was study factual info from every aspect, statistics, studied again, and then had it reviewed. Basic common sense and basic study skills.
@@fritolaid6805 Fuck you! That's all I can say
This should be part of the so called diversity training.
34:00 - the point on what parents should do !
Hi Guys!
I just wanted to say that I love your work and I love your direction. I think these videos will really help insecure guys to find their place. This conversation is real and it should be listened with open ears by any ragers who want to segment any group by individual attributes. This is not the direction we would like to go towards. Keep up the good work and bring the meaningful conversations to us!
Yu like a humanist person base on experience and facts
There are many reasons why we have families that consists of a father and mother since the beginning of human history and civilization. All major civilizations and cultures that amounts to anything have such families and have fathers and mothers play their role in the family to raise up children. The destruction of such core family is the key to destroy any nation and any civilization. Today the family is being attacked by sexual liberalization (sex outside of/before marriage), feminism, welfare state, no fault divorce, rising cost of living (inflation) that both parents have to work, etc. I think the current US/American cultural is beyond repair. Families are breaking up everywhere. Even among many conservative Christian communities, families are breaking up and divorces are rampant. It is a fight for families to stay together and to raise up children in the right way.
This was great
no, really not
Quite hard to listen to this as keep having to get up and see to my poorly older child, to let my son and wife sleep on lol.
Good thought provoking stuff overall 👍🙂
My friend is married raising two boys and he's going crazy b/c of his wife. Before having children, they were functioning -doing well as a couple. As a mother she became a different person. She grew up fatherless with neurotic single mother and when she became a mother she turned into the same (copy-paste) unstable neurotic parent. Any disagreement (fighting) about parenting /methods must be resolved -discussed in private -not in front of children. Whatever rules, boundaries they may establish together (agree upon) she is constantly undermining his authority, disrupting any resemblance of consistency - making everything worse.
Still, when he complains about his lazy useless incorrigible children, I tell him when his boys fully mature (at 30 -40y.) his effort, presence (as a model) will pay off.
it was a great podcast episode that I enjoyed listening. I always thought it 's not socially acceptable in North America , to argue that both sexes do have some biologically given characteristics including how hormones drive you, and the physical/mental differences like you often mentioned in other episodes, and therfore equal rights, or any feminism movements should try to reflect such traits.
Keep in mind Warrens a crank who promotes ideas that arent supported by facts or reality.Hes not a scientist or a biologist.
Frito Laid Which part is not factual?
What an AMAZING guy. Rudimentarily has complete IDIOTS insulting him anywhere he goes, and look how cool he still manages to be.
Basically constantly asking for permission probably even to breathe, it's ridiculous. Does the college even know how communication works? It's not just direct there's also indirect like body language.
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1:02:01
Protesters. Smh. Protesting the truth in that society is collapsing?! Families ruined?!
When y'all getting hot and heavy, and she whips out her _Consent Sign-off Papers_ ...
*INSTANT NUT*
Ask your guy friends if they've been accused of sexual assault and see how many answer yes. Now ask your female friends, family members and co-workers if they've been sexual assaulted then see how much men are really in trouble.
Have to agree with this, 100%. I didn't realize until I started to ask, and even pry a bit, to be honest. But sexual harassment is a pervasive problem for women and girls, from a very young age to a very old age. I am vowing to do better, and step up when I hear this happening.
Right! Its like, give me a break. Warren Farrells ideas arent supported by facts and a man is more likely to be accused of murder than sexual assault in this country. Also, anyone whose ever read his 1978 Penthouse article would know hes a total creep. I have the actual 1978 magazine (aside form Farrells weird article, it has some funny porn of men and women with afros) and he was basically saying incest isnt wrong. The dudes a nut.
Wow, thats great. I had a friend who was sexually assaulted by her boyfriend and blamed herself. I tried to convince her it wasnt her fault, but she was always a little timid around men from then on.
R U seriously saying that my friend wasnt sexually assaulted? R U really that stupid?
just youtube the word feminism, theres a reason why women and men alike logically have taken it completely down over the pas 2-3 years, the suffer gets shamed men who were force drafted into war and didnt want to fight, third wave feminists don't acknowledge mens rights to have their own group discusses their higher suicide rates work place deaths false accusations which the mainstream media never apologized for or ignores etc
Please start men's gender studies courses
family and custody laws need to be changed.
Its all lresented in a non intrusive way and its easy to say... yeah! Hes right we are suffering! But honestly most of this can be explained by feminist theory and explained by misogyny
52 dislikes? Need to go. 22k views? Need to increase
I believe this man deserves a very slow, LOUD CLAP!!!
All of us?
Concerning those consent laws, men don’t need more tips on how to get friend zoned. We clearly mastered that part.
Hey guys, I'm a big fan of your workout videos. I admit I haven't gotten to see this video yet, because I don't yet have time (will watch it later), but I do think it's dangerous, especially right now, to be dismissive about the hardships that women and girls actually face in our society. If you've had a real talk with your sisters, your good friends, even your own mom, anyone who is female, and if they trust you enough to be real with you, the crap they have to contend with, every day and every night, is no joke. I feel like boys and men would be better off if we took that seriously, as a starting point, and vowed to treat women with full respect and care, and stepped up to be defenders and allies of women, rather than either attackers or silently looking on, or even laughing. Thanks for reading, and cheers! p.s. I love MindPump. HIIT FOREVER!
itgetter9 u should watch it . You will enjoy it based off your comment .
Thanks! I sure will (as soon as I can carve out the time). You all give me some hope in humanity. Plus good tips on health and strength!
I see where you’re coming from; I hope you’ve watched the video by now. If you’re an ally of women it doesn’t mean you hate men, or does it? Being a decent person doesn’t have to be done by picking a side. We need to talk about these things, to hear not just women’s voices but from (good) men as well; because we all have to coexist at the end of the day.
Yeah, well said. Anyone whose ever read his books or read his 1978 Penthouse article knows Warren is a nut. A male is more likely to be falsily accused of murder before sexual assault.
Trust me, anyone whose familiar with Farrells writing knows hes a anti-woman joke. Plus anyone whose ever read his 1978 Penthouse article knows he was proposing incest as something that isnt wrong. Ive bought the magazine off of Ebay and it was disgusting. Stick to exercise, you have no idea what youre doing when it comes to politics.
Holding hands is not sexual assault. Its not assault, its not even sexual.
You dont have to put down womens rights to hilight mens issues in kind. We hear you and care and are 10million % behind mens healing and protection. Great you are speaking up. That's what it takes 💚
i love how you guys use science (not commonsense) for health and then commonsense (not science) for this issue
12:33 CTE who will you be - - MGTOW QUOTES VOL-1 AMAZON & E.BOOK
What a fascinating conversation! Wish you had a female in the mix to speak to all of this as well. Sex with Emily would've been great in here.
It's such a complicated issue.
Any knowledgable woman wouldve debunked a lot of Warrens bullshit thats why they wouldnt have one on when Warrens talking. Seriously read up about MRAs and if you can find Warrens 1977 December Penthouse article I'd suggest reading it. I have it and he basically argues that incest is A-ok. www.proxibid.com/December-1977-Penthouse-Magazine/lotInformation/28224565 It was titled "incest the last Taboo"
@dev0n james why smh? I wasn't insinuating that women were right or superior. Just a suggestion about having an adult conversation.
@dev0n james they could call out his bs
I agree Angela and I'm thrilled that you would take the time to listen to a group of guys talk about these topics. Don't see that much at the moment. Here's hoping we achieve good things for humanity together as one.
Frito Laid judge someone based on their opinion, good job
I have always thought feminism came about due to 1. Undervaluing and subjugation of the female role. A male disdain towards female roles and 2. Control and violence that women experienced at the hand of men.
Bottom line is we need balance in all things in life. And communication. As a mother of two sons, before I had them if I was single, I could have seen myself becoming a feminist because of things my mother would say about my dad, and from the way fathers have been portrayed in a lot of mainstream media. My Dad kind of gave up on things near the end of their marriage. He was depressed and stopped working for religious reasons. I think my only brother was really affected by my mom and dad's relationship. My sisters and I all married men that could be active in their children's lives and are very close to their kids. My brother has a teenage daughter, but is split from her mom. Her mom's views sound very feminist. I have heard my dad say he felt like he was just a paycheck when I was growing up, and other men have said this as well. On the other hand women feel like they are just a sex object. I think both genders are important in molding our children. Dads are important as long as they are not violent or criminal/ abusive. So many factors to think about. Yes women can be violent, but normally its men being abusive to women. Yes women can be abusive, too. My father in law was military and away on Duty Assignments, and my brother in law who is older than my husband was much more affected by his father being away. He had a love hate relationship with both parents. He was so much more like his father and looked like him, but though they loved each other, they still had a divisive relationship. He had trouble with the law, and took his life a few years ago, and 4 months to the day after his Dad passed away from Cancer. My husband who is the younger brother and was able to be closer to his Dad after he retired, has been around for his two boys, our sons their whole lives, and are very close. My brother in law has two daughters, he split up from their mother, they loved their Dad, but there were mental and cheating issues in their relationship, as well, and the girls and their mother seem very feminist in their views. Interesting what he says I have seen a lot in my life. Every relationship with each person is different. Remember Demolition Man, when Sandra Bullock's character asks Stallone's character sign consent before they do the act? With phone's everywhere nowadays, that can record, young adults have to be careful of everything they do.
The red pill appears again. I wish I had head this 35 years ago.
What feminists want: #MeToo
What feminists do: #MeMeMe
It should be spelled the way they intend: "pound me too!"
I love MindPump despite our very different political views. This episode makes me sad... I think it’s time you have someone from the other perspective on ASAP. After some digging, there’s so much info spoken here that is just false or incredibly inaccurate. Please have an open mind and find a guest to speak on behalf of the opposing side.
Vanessa DuFoe huh? Did you not listen to The episode ? If you did please post what you say is false and we can address
@@MindPumpTV shockingly, this "courageous woman" claimed you are full of lies, then you immediately responded, then she ran away and went totally silent, presumably because she is "So strong and smart and always right" lololol
lol this is the other perspective. all we hear about in the mainstream is the "patriarchy" and the "gender pay gap prove discrimination". It makes you sad that men have value?
@@fusion772 she never claimed that they were full of lies she merely made a suggestion. I just like any neo-leftist you got incredibly offended by someone making a suggestion that you don't agree with. I can see that she was wrong, however I'm certainly not going to lash out at someone simply because they made a suggestion that I don't agree with or because she missed something completely. Most things she got wrong but there are a few things she was absolutely right about. Like the BS of women not calling each other vicious nicknames.
@@richardcarte139 "Neo-leftist"? Dude you're a waste of time, stop assuming that I am interested in your 2-bit useless feedback.
I was coming for the exercises but why do you have to go into social issues. Damn it!
Agree whole heartedly. Fortunately, there are plenty of exercise. Unfortunately, there's also more crap like this.
Because being strong as a man is about much more than lifting heavy weights. Mental, emotional, and spiritual strength are just as important if a man is truly seeking to become a whole human being. If a man lacks all of the latter, he might be physically capable & strong, but how will he ever be a strong leader or father - especially when it comes to building a business or raising a young son?
The show _is_ called MIND Pump, after all.
Myth of Male Privilege? Are you fucking kidding me? You're kidding, right?
Nice generalities, guys, but I have known far too many totally irresponsible men from solid, loving homes, whom I have known, who screwed up their own lives. And women still fell in love with them and married them. Males are certainly privileged in every single society from the day they are born. There is no myth about it.
Dumb women they are but yep
schools need bullies
He doesn't seem to address autistic masculinity in and of itself.
What is autistic masculinity?
@@abrahamjaleel9463 Big brained Uber logicians.
This is what they mean by Cringy?
Why do men and women need freedom from traditional roles?
Why is the fitness space so saturated by pseudo-intellectual libertarian right wing bullshit? unsubscribed.
InArguendo Glad to see you leave
@@MindPumpTV Haha, hopefully he/she/they doesn't let the door hit him/her/them on the way out.