Francis Fukuyama on The Origins of Political Order - John Adams Institute

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  • One of America’s most distinguished political thinkers took the John Adams Institute stage for the second time to discuss his far-ranging exploration of history and society. Francis Fukuyama’s book is about how states form, but while it goes back into the distant past, its relevance is very up-to-date. How did ancient societies relinquish their tribal ties in favor of a strong central government? The West has long supported democracy as an organizing principle, and has pushed tribal societies to change. But how realistic is that? Francis Fukuyama also visited the John Adams Institute in 2014 and 1995.
    Moderator: Frans Timmermans
    In cooperation with Contact publishers
    This video was recorded on May 10, 2011.
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  • @thomasd2444
    @thomasd2444 5 років тому +89

    0:06:24 - Thank you for a kind introduction
    0:07:09 - Origins of why this volume written
    0:07:36 - Bad governance - getting to Denmark
    0:0828 - Why can't we get there?
    0:08:52 - Essential Political Institutions 101
    0:09:14 - ONE : State
    0:10:21 - First modern state was Chung Kuo (3rd Cen. B.C.)
    0:12:35 - Why was the model of the modern state in Chung Kuo not replicated?
    0:12:39 - TWO : Rule of Law
    0:13:00 - THREE : Accountable form of Government.
    0:15:35 - All combined in a single polity
    0:16:15 - Some historical stories
    0:16:35 - State is a long term struggle against the family.
    0:17:22 - Social human skill of Kin Selection (or Inclusive Fitness)
    0:17:52 - Social human skill of Reciprocal Altruism (scratch my back and I scratch your back)
    0:18:36 - How did we extend to an entire state?
    0:18:42 - Tribal Kinship organization periods
    0:19:17 - The answer is : War.
    0:19:36 - 1100 B.C.
    0:19:57 - From 8th Century B.C to the 5th Century B.C. these people fought some 1,200 wars.
    0:20:05 - From the 5th Century B.C. to the 3rd Century B.C. they fought some 450 wars.
    0:20:24 - Seven States become One
    _________ Qin's wars of unification were a series of military campaigns launched in the late
    _________ 3rd century BC by the Qin state against the other six major states -
    _________ Han, Zhao, Yan, Wei, Chu and Qi - within the territories that formed modern China.
    _________ By the end of the wars in 221 BC, Qin had unified most of the states and occupied
    _________ some lands south of the Yangtze River. The territories conquered by Qin served as
    _________ the foundation of the Qin dynasty.
    0:20:48 - Military competition
    0:21:48 - The needs of defense gave need for the organizations in the modern state to begin.
    0:22:00 - Civil Service Examination : What they knew and not who was their ancestor.
    0:22:20 - Environmental changes in the 3rd Century A.D.
    0:23:23 - Another path : Military Slavery trained to be skilled Civil Servants of Merit.
    0:25:25 - 116th Century : 1527 the 1st Turkish attack of Vienna
    0:25:42 - Ottoman Empire declined - Elite Soldiers demanded to be family dynasties.
    0:26:21 - Two solutions to creat a modern state
    0:26:35 - Next : Rule of Law (Rules of justice higher than officials) D Y I
    0:26:50 - Source? Religion.
    0:27:14 - That law is held to be superior
    0:27:17 -
    0:27:20 -
    0:27:22 -
    0:27:24 -
    0:27:35 - India
    0:28:17 - Islam
    0:28:45 - Limit
    0:28:57 - Not Chung Kuo
    0:29:12 - Ancestor Worship
    0:29:20 - Europe : Agent was the Catholic Guys
    0:29:48 - At the End of the Carolingian Empire
    0:30:31 - A Titanic Figure : Hildebrand of Sovana = Pope Gregory VII
    0:30:50 - NO PAPAL BAMBINOs
    0:35:57 - Moving to Institutions of Accountability
    0:34:17 - Parliament
    0:36:09 - John Locke : The legitimacy of Govt. is based on consent of the Governed.
    0:36:36 - From 1688 to 1776
    0:37:30 - ALL THREE INSTITUTIONS TOGETHER
    0:37:35 - It doesn't happen anywhere else.France. Spain. Russia
    0:37:45 - The Authoritarian Side of the Equation prevails
    0:37:49 - In France : Auction Offices to highest Bidders
    0:39:08 - Sub Saharan African Corruption today : PIKERS.
    0:39:12 - French Elite confuse Liberty with Privilege
    _________ Book : The Old Régime and the French Revolution
    _________ The most important contribution to our understanding of the French Revolution
    _________ was written almost one hundred years ago by Alexis de Tocqueville.
    _________The French Revolution is undoubtedly one of the most significant events in world
    _________ history, one whose repercussions still affect Western society today, two
    _________ hundred years later.
    0:40:00 - Some modern-day implications.
    0:41:20 -
    0:42:12 - The USA
    0:43:48 - Short run
    0:44:34 - Philosopher King yield's Good Results.
    0:46:20 - Discussion

    • @tdreamgmail
      @tdreamgmail 5 років тому +7

      These are the best timestamps I've seen on the internet! Bravo!

    • @mohamedfahad2364
      @mohamedfahad2364 5 років тому +1

      Thanks very much

    • @neils1726
      @neils1726 4 роки тому +1

      Thank you.

    • @AZ-je3fn
      @AZ-je3fn 4 роки тому +1

      I am sure everyone appreciates what you’ve done as timelines including me! Good job 💪🏻😎

    • @historyandconspiracy6173
      @historyandconspiracy6173 3 роки тому +1

      Thank you much

  • @patng323
    @patng323 2 роки тому +14

    A wonderful lecture. I can't help but applauded in front of my laptop after watching the whole thing.

  • @yp77738yp77739
    @yp77738yp77739 Рік тому +1

    The most rational summary of human modern civilisation I have ever heard. Both this and The Republic should be a prerequisite for all participants of any system of universal suffrage or you are unable to make an informed consent.

  • @JohnPaynePayne
    @JohnPaynePayne 9 днів тому

    Thanks very much.❤

  • @juancarlossanz699
    @juancarlossanz699 4 роки тому +10

    Wonderful lecture. Superb exposition of Liberalism as it is in Europe, not liberalism as understood in the USA which is leftish

  • @MG-ye1hu
    @MG-ye1hu 3 роки тому +2

    This was extremely interesting. Thank you!

  • @maneeshdangi4401
    @maneeshdangi4401 6 років тому +1

    Splendid!

  • @sahameyanathan5611
    @sahameyanathan5611 6 років тому +6

    Good summary of his books

  • @shiwanimanikandan4241
    @shiwanimanikandan4241 Рік тому

    Sir I am thoroughly impressed with your content you delivered in a very short span and the Style
    Thank You so much for the enlightenment you do with your books and lectures
    I pray for a long and healthy life for you and your family
    My views now today democratic system
    The elites negotiate and select the candidates and future head of state
    Then people are allowed to democratically elect the one of the Two / More short listed shadow candidates
    Selected by the greedy elites who is always in power the list some times gets altered but there is a greed list and the numbers and value keeps growing irrespective of who heads the state

  • @usenlim
    @usenlim 4 роки тому +1

    How can this very important lecture is viewed by 23 thousands people? The world sure will end in great chaos.

  • @lesilluminations1
    @lesilluminations1 Рік тому

    Brilliant! Just brilliant. Only problem for me is that now I have to read all his books. How can I deprive myself?

  • @barumbadum
    @barumbadum 6 років тому +2

    I need.to.read this book asap.

    • @joshuap9580
      @joshuap9580 5 років тому +2

      its good. i like his speeches better because its much faster than reading his book which took me a while. still havent finished part 2. he's a very good speaker, makes parallels, and its easy to listen to.

  • @kingcrazymani4133
    @kingcrazymani4133 4 роки тому

    A native of Quincy, Massachusetts in this lifetime, having spent my childhood growing up a kilometer from the Adams Mansion, I find myself here again. The irony of my yesterday finally getting around to listening to the nuance-stripping Dr. Fukuyama is palpable. The only thing that was tribal about New England in the late 1700s was the fact that the Indians, some of my ancestors, had moved West a century earlier. Some, however, remained, and assimilated the old fashioned way. To nuance strip all of this is to talk in vast detail about some of the less salient points. Having heard other speeches of Dr. Fukuyama, I passed on this one. Any further comments from me may get censored, even if I were to go over to the church where John, Abigail and John Q are entombed and push the send button from there. I am, actually, tempted.

  • @abdelllahabdellah6983
    @abdelllahabdellah6983 6 років тому +4

    i hope his book is translated into Arabic very soon

  • @h.gcx.1608
    @h.gcx.1608 6 років тому +10

    If there is political Nobel,he should get one

    • @mogligondorff8700
      @mogligondorff8700 6 років тому +1

      Given that he was a Neocon, no.

    • @bodhisattva4eva
      @bodhisattva4eva 5 років тому

      Bad idea. His analysis ans conclusion that contrast the US and China regarding the "bad emperor" and the "strength" of accountability in the US system should bear some further scrutiny in light of Trump.

  • @SusanSt.James-33
    @SusanSt.James-33 4 роки тому +1

    Nepotism*patronage*clientalism leads to political decay which is move from modernstate* ruleoflaw*accountability.

  • @jfrancefl325
    @jfrancefl325 3 роки тому

    09:00 what is a state

  • @user-wy5lg9tj5n
    @user-wy5lg9tj5n 4 роки тому +1

    Western society forget the basic principle : you must be rich then be democracy, the poor country will never have democracy.

    • @usenlim
      @usenlim 4 роки тому +1

      That principle has already been debunked by a political economist Daron Acemoglu. Besides, China is not poor anymore, it is a middle income countries.

  • @deplant5998
    @deplant5998 3 роки тому

    What is the origin of the zooming in and the zooming out? Looks like this was filmed by a B grade wedding videographer.

  • @John-lf3xf
    @John-lf3xf 5 років тому

    I think the guy is wrong with regards to how we established an impersonal government. It could be simply ideological, it could be the existence of other tribes and communities which were integrated and needed to be ruled along with the conquering tribe on the same terms. But the driving force isnt war. Its power in the inevitable relative coextience of tribes.
    Or another thing it could be, just the vast amount of people within a group cannot be governed personally(obviously), thus the logical arrival of more impersonal government with the impersonality increasing with the increase of people and diversification in qualities of the group as a whole. Statesmen ofcourse would be not the basis of merit

  • @John-lf3xf
    @John-lf3xf 5 років тому +1

    Why do I get determinist undertones from this guy?

    • @socrateos
      @socrateos Рік тому

      Perhapis you did not listen to him.

    • @John-lf3xf
      @John-lf3xf Рік тому

      @@socrateos I did.

    • @socrateos
      @socrateos Рік тому

      @@John-lf3xf
      Then it's a comprehension deficiency.

    • @John-lf3xf
      @John-lf3xf Рік тому

      @@socrateos proof?

    • @socrateos
      @socrateos Рік тому

      @@John-lf3xf
      There is nothing that indicates deteminism.

  • @patrickvernon4766
    @patrickvernon4766 Рік тому

    Let’s have the Chinese model

  • @huming66
    @huming66 Рік тому

    China ended its transcendental religion in its Xia dynasty 2070-1600 BC, however Xia dynasty is not formally recognize by the west ...

  • @juanmathus4384
    @juanmathus4384 3 роки тому

    The biological impulse of nepotism, as what he implied in his lecture, always reassert in societies even with established institution of rule of law and check-and-balance. The modern states, represented by authoritarian and liberal principles, are living example of "kin selection" instinctively asserting negative wing of nepotism, weakening the state and periodically pushing the nation in path of chaos and decline. No, it is not that simple that putting up a strong state, balanced by a rule of law and system of accountability will bring nation or kingdom in a state of stability for a relatively long period of time.The biological tribal instinct accentuated by "kin selection", "territorial protection and expansion", and "drive for competition" will always interfere in social, economic and political life of any human civilization hastening its rise and decline. There must be some ways other than mechanistic intervention by system of rule of law and system of accountability whereby people may be able to rise above his biological nature and instinctual drive.

  • @SuperYouthful
    @SuperYouthful 4 роки тому

    I WANT to be him in the FUTURE WITH THE TEAM AT THE CIA.

  • @mogligondorff8700
    @mogligondorff8700 6 років тому +1

    As if Venezuela before Chavez was a success story.

    • @spacecadet28
      @spacecadet28 5 років тому

      millions of people were not running from Venezuela.

  • @lafayettemoreira4423
    @lafayettemoreira4423 2 місяці тому

    And history wasnt over, not even by marxists standards, just because Gorbi capitulated and the USSR went extinct. Now i pause and wonder, from a japanese point of view, could it have looked like as somekind of history ending? Some chapter ending? When those things came to pass.

  • @wilmeramadoraguilar47
    @wilmeramadoraguilar47 4 роки тому +1

    theorists alienated from reality, inmersed in idealistic schemes failing to accept de Value of virtue

  • @John-lf3xf
    @John-lf3xf 5 років тому +1

    His paradigms are very strange

  • @thegoodlydragon7452
    @thegoodlydragon7452 6 років тому +2

    Authoritarianism has a sort of "softer" characteristic in Confucian-style east Asian countries in part because the ideology they learned stresses a leader's responsibility to the people. Okay, yes, but the ideology wasn't just dropped from heaven onto China. An ideology invented by an East Asian mind is likely to take on a different characteristic than that invented by an African or European mind. You need to ask yourself why there's no Zulu Confucius or Baka Isaac Newton.

  • @mogligondorff8700
    @mogligondorff8700 6 років тому +2

    Good talk. But it's not the welfare systems that are unsustainable, it is Wall Street. There you have a strategic interest for Europe. How to get Goldman out of Europe. Brexit is a good start.

  • @benny19646
    @benny19646 2 роки тому

    Middle East looking at the us for its check and balances to stop waging war against them 😂💀💀

  • @ipdavid1043
    @ipdavid1043 2 роки тому +1

    Outdated scholar

  • @marymary1978
    @marymary1978 5 років тому

    He is wrong! Brexit was voted by intelligent people not people who are less educated. He is ridiculous and wrong. Roger Scruton and Dyson voted for Brexit, not because of their educational background. It is embarrassing when Fukuyama always gets it wrong! Honestly...less educated? He is guessing and not a scholar. Nothing to do with America or Trump or Putin, etc!!! You may know Americans but do not understand the different systems, he assumes, it is not the same! He is really annoying!