Army Combat Vet REACTS to Sseth's Songs of Conquest Review
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If Necromancy DOESN'T involve enslaving the original soul than necromancy is the less evil option, the corpse is just a corpse in that case. If Necromancy DOES involve enslaving the original should then it's worse, because it's just slavery again, but the slave is in a rotting corpse body instead of a living one; if you're a slave either way then being in a living body that isn't in constant pain and rotting away under you is better.
Disturbing
But what if the soul isn't enslaved? Wouldn't that make Necromancy great? It can extend you life to after death, and once your body rots away you just build a new body to move the soul into.
You can build a super cool Frankenstein-like creature, and then once you die your soul travels into the new body, living on for another twenty or so years before you need to replace the body.
I don't know it still seems evil to turn somebody body into a tool even if the soul gone.
If we make the assumption that the body feels nothing does that make it better?
@@ladeao1552 depends on does it have a soul
"I can hear the nerds getting upset"
Honestly, its the opposite. Most "react" channels are garbage because its just an excuse to watch people pog at "thing you like" and are otherwise superficial garbage. You on the other hand will stop whenever anyone makes a single sentence to go on a five minute tangent on world history or the Military Industrial Complex, and its usually quite interesting. Hence why you're the only React channel I follow.
Indeed. There are not many who do contribute to their "reaction" video.
I would say I am guilty of skipping some of his tangents sometimes, but It is because Im not interested in that specific one or want him to see his thoughts on a specific part of the video. However, I don't think he should stop doing that because otherwise I wouldnt be watching him, its just that sometimes I don't have time to watch the entire 50 minute video but im interested in certain tangents he does go on and thats what I search for.
Tangents? But (Obiwan Kenobi voice) _that's why i'm here._ :)
The just pogging guys have their staying right since I and a lot of people are guilty of wanting to see people enjoy the stuff we like without too much delay.
It is nice to see people that get the context react to your hobby.
A good example of good and bad reacting is "Chicago reacts" channel were they have a couple actual gamers react to the insanity of Lets game it out, Sseth and Mandalore and sometimes some normies that try to make lame jokes and are out of touch with the subject of the video and can pick up and the more subtle jokes.
@@darokdeed I guess that's something else than just seeing people rant about the thing.
That flash of Ross Scott during the bone smashing bit was hilarious
Sseth's pic flashes kill me every time, probably my favorite part of his editing
The morality of Necromancy is one that is HIGHLY dependant on the nature of necromancy and souls in the setting, thus there is no singular answer to the Necromantic question
Ah a paradox
Agreed its all how the writer handles it. A co worker had a necromancer in dnd who lead a country that was democratically ran had some of the highest standards of living where people knew the guy was a necromancer and the standing army was undead none of the country's neighbors could touch it the way he staffed the army was hey you get to stay in the best place ever and when you die I get your body or something else I can't remember what it was years ago but his character was finally killed when the gods got involved.
Either way the man found a way to make what is normally seen as one of the worse things into a tool to make a place that didn't really have any issues or war.
@@dragconen aaahhh damn gods always ruining the fun when it starts getting good.
For SoC the issue comes with necromantic magic corrupting the very land it’s performed on and the undead trample over. This is the third way to handle it: necromancy as a corrupting influence outside of just animating zombies or possibly enslaving souls
@@biotoxin6280 not really. More an answer that depends on the missing variables in equation. Bloody algebra.
For instance, in 40K? Necromancy would not only be morally acceptable, it would be a PREFERABLE fate to death, because the sea of souls that is now the warp is stuff a daemon-besotted blender of soulmatter and concepts all but the strongest souls are just reduced to so much nothing, if they aren't eaten.
Conversly, in warhammer FANTASY there is not only gods of death that safekeep the dead in their afterlifes, but necromancy seems to be inherently metaphysically corruptive and evil.
Regarding the whole "serf" thing: it originated from the late Roman Empire. The serf would be legally bound to a certain area, which he would cultivate for a landlord and whom he would pay in produce from his fields, in exchange for protection.
It was actually a massive step forward, in spite of how it's nowadays seen as slavery with a different coat, as unlike slaves, serfs were legally people and as such had rights, even if enforcing them, especially against nobles, was often an issue.
How a serf could be freed differed based on nation and time period. For example, in the Holy Roman Empire, if a serf spend a year and a day within a city, without being recalled by his landlord, he was free. Which is why we in Germany have the saying "Stadtluft macht frei," or "city air makes free (lit.)".
How serfs would get their freedom depended on the region and time period. In eastern Europe they were bound to the land for life, in England, especially after black death rolled over, they often could pay the lord for their labor in advance, so that the lord could attract someone else to fill in for them. In general, the mobility of people after the pandemic was much higher due to skilled labor being in short supply.
In later ages, serfs were also people who were paying off their loans with labor for the person they borrowed money from. They were not slaves, though the contracts often sound like slavery to us today. Of course, unscrupulous moneylenders would write them in ways to get free labor out of debtors even after their debt was paid, for example by charging them huge interest, or forcing them to pay for things that they would 'generously provide', like room and board, which the debtor was obliged to use.
@@krinkrin5982 Russian serfdom, which lasted until about the same time that American slavery was abolished, was a lot like slavery, though. You could be bought and sold between landowners with families being split up, sometimes for something like a good hunting borzoi dog.
You picked the best and worst possible moment to drink during the Mandalore joke.
Most feudal societies and countries that practices serfdom did not have freedom of movement. Serfs were bound to the land they were born on. Feudal lords did not want their primary workforce moving to a rival lord’s land.
"Would necromancy be better then slavery?" Depends on if you put souls in the corpse to animate it or not. Cause if you use their or anothers soul to power it all then it would be worse. If not, then its just animation of an automata, with the caveat that that automata could be the body of your father or sister etc.
There’s also the issue of the magic being corrupting to the environment and/or other people like it is in Songs of Conquest. It lets you have fun with simple skeletons and zombies while also making sure the act is still rather immoral.
depending on what a soul is, is it just life energy roaming around everywhere?
16:44 - actually the major difference between serfdom and slavery was that it was technically voluntary and one could leave. Depending on the country, the rules on which one could leave were pretty absurd, but there never was actual engorcement against one's will to serve.
For example, late 1st Commonwealth Poland had one of the strictest serfdom laws (basically only Russia was worse), but it still allowed one to leave. You had to leave behind everything, basically leaving with that which you can carry on your back, as law stated that everything you earned was still technically noble's property as you earned it working his land, but there was a provision that you can leave carrying your personal belongings yourself. Depending on the region and noble that right wasn't always respected, but there were actual cases of nobles being punished for breaking it and those who lived close to capital actually never really tried to break it as redress was certain in such a case. But the story was different on the border with Ottoman Empire.
Fun fact: Even then the calvulated cumulative % of work a serf had to work for their noble, church and king was less than even the lowest estimation of % of taxes on modern Pole's earnings. (And tax law in Poland is so complicated and variable that you have to estimate it.)
And they are making it even more complicated and absurd right now. This year alone, there was a massive reform, that was mostly rolled back three months later, and then the law was changed again. It's like Seth vs the dev team, but in reverse.
Okay dude, dopamine is neurotransmitter of reward also, so it's fine to use it in that context. Sseth is an MD too, so it's not like he dosen't know what he's talking about
He's great at saying semi-correct things with unwavering conviction.
0:33 For anyone who wants to know, the guy on the left if Ross of Freeman's Mind, Civil Protection, and Game Dungeon fame.
I love how Paul got used to Sseths shittery and rolls with it.
Welding has been known about since the early copper age
they just didn't use a welding torch but a welding rod, which is basically just a very hot stick you put into a Bonfire until you can use it to weld a little before putting it back in the fire
man you went from "uh this is weird guys, what the hell, i dont think ill watch videos like these anymore" to embracing internet culture, hot damn and congrats, keep up the good work lol
He is mastering the youtube art of the shitpost dialoge
as for me, even if a necromancer raises a "being" and it has at least some "awareness" of its past life, this means that they can be motivated with the help of a specific religion. "After death, we will serve the greater good"
the whole zero day exploits reminds me of a story where two players of a fighting game called melty blood were waiting for the biggest tournament for that game in the world to use it
28:00 I'd rather be dead then being trapped in my own body forced to do the will of my master.
Yeah but the options here are be *alive* and forced to do the will of your master, or *dead* and forced to do the will of your master.
i rather be trap in an body, then die
@@phodon129 the former only because I have control over my body so there a chance I can get away.
He saying he understands why the barons joined the furries and made an analogy with crystal the fox and twinkies to drive the point home.
basically *ussy is *ussy.
Damn, last time I was this early Paul still never played Team Fortress 2
Dam
Dr pepper you have good Taste
Passive income is honestly so good though. It's basically an IRL free money exploit
Usually necromancy is basically like using magic to make an automaton out of a corpse, minimal intelligence, no soul, basically just a robot made of meat and bone
You should react to a DJ Peach Cobbler video, he makes some good history and video game essay videos that I believe you would enjoy.
Sure, it'd greatly appreciate the link to the dopamine video.
the way i see it necromancy wouldnt be that bad if its jsut bringing back the body and not the soul
My first intuition here is that Molok is probably referring to the Scott Alexander essay "Meditations on Moloch."
I guess it depends on the author or writer on the story they are working on. There is this certain light novel that got anime adaptation that its necromancy is the corpse commanding without enslaving souls type. After an opposing nation gave up a city to them, most of its population evacuated so they were really low in manpower to run the city. So, they used skeletons to work on the crops, skeletal horses on cargo, liches as menial government staffs, death knights as town and caravan guards and ghost ships as outside city patrols. Humans who stayed behind were surprised how safe and well-fed they are now as the new major population of the city don't need to eat and rest and keep on working. If the setting was changed to modern times, they would be having skeletons working on sweatshops too.
Overlord.
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5:08 "begging you to abandon the emperor"
chaos god then.
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28:00 - usually, in most fantasy worlds reanimated as undead are considered as victims of evil necromancers. But if you think about it - what if undead (even with all their pain and suffering) were raised from their graves consentually?
i play all videos on 2x and ive gotten so use to it sometimes im not sure if i sped the video up or not. so his video is on on 4x and it sounds crazy XD
I am watching in 2x speed. When you 2x your reaction, sseth spoke in 4x. Nice reaction/comments
Another really great video! Reaction video? More like an analysis-information video at this point.
00:33 what is louise from acursed farms doiiiin heere i lovee that guuuyyyy
Love these
waitttt whatt?? that was a retention graph? i thought it was some audio level thing or something...
I like to call serdoms legal medieval protection rackets
pay taxes or the lord in the castle there who had his 3rd extravagant party this week wont be able to save you from the bandits in the woods or the evil tyrant who hates babies 2 counties over.
We want the dopamine link
@MHGR You should see The Spiffing Brit's video on this game. It is so glorious.
I know i am late, but there were medieval towns with farms behind the walls.
26:07 yes. Technically. If a serf left his lords land and fled to a town and stayed there for year he would become a townsman. Which was common. As the towns would obviously want more people for trade and skilled labour. Also every peasant that fled was one less the stuck up nobles had, so why should the townspeople involve themselves?
A serf could also be freed as a reward for military service. Although this had to be exceptional military service. As in a billman who manages to bring down an enemy commander. He would be rewarded with money and land depending on how important their actions where. Although this didn’t happen much.
necromancy is not really bad. it was described as a way to seek help from your ancestors and help spirits pass to the next life.
To be fair, that's necromancy in the sense of "speaking with the dead," not the more modern interpretation of calling up undead to do your bidding.
Serfdom was very complex and depending on the culture. Depending on where you draw the line to consider something slavery, some forms of serfs were slaves in all but name and in others they were just citizens working for a lord. I'm no expert by far and it is a very complex subject with a lot of nuance.
Also wheter necromancy is bad is also a very interesting discussion. It all depends on what happens with the soul/consciousness. If it binds the dead person in a body to control and they are aware of it, it is absolutely horrendousunless they can continue their previous life. If it binds the soul/consciousness without them being aware it is debatable and relies on wheter it affects what happens to them after aka afterlife etc. If it is basically just the body controlled with magic and no soul it might be macabre but I see absolutely no issue with it because it is basically just biological/skeleton robots to do cheap labor and has non of the negatives of slavery.
We had the true slavery around the Shang dynasty, true slave is considered tool that looks like human , they can be trade, sacrificed to our sun god , or used as slave solders
Ayo can you do jimothy ross’s cruelty squad
Now you gotta watch Sseth's homm3 and homm5 reviews
44:44 I don't think Sseth sunk thousands into a vtuber due to obsession or anything like that
Guy just goes all in with anything he gets interested in whether it's something interesting, something weird or something straight up messed up
He once streamed a lecture about cancer and immunology, you can still watch it on YT somewhere i think
Oh no paul put on 2x speed while I’m watching at 2x speed
Necromancy is better than slavery if the souls not involved, because it's just using corpse golems. If the souls involved that means souls exist, so if an afterlife exists then it is undeniably worse, if there's no afterlife and you've dragged the soul back from the depths of the void to do your bidding without their will then it's still worse, if they still have their will then it's probably better than slavery since they wouldn't feel pain, but their torment would also not end. It's iffy.
30:03 that's peak debating in comment sections Lol.
I wanna see that dopamine video
Background music was a bit too loud IMO
SoC's Dev's to Sseth abusing the game's mechanics: "Stop! Stop, it's already dead!"
What does being ex-Army have to do with a fantasy game? Kinda confused as to the relevance of that.
I really love the Athenian empire and Delian league.
So I'm almost certain that sseth's family was russian (jewish) and russian serfdom was 95% similar to chattel slavery, unlike the serfdom of feudal Europe. You could be bought and sold, families were torn apart etc. It wasn't just being tied to the land.
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47:15 he is still understandable😂
I think the term you might be looking for in terms of serfdom, is probably "intentional community". You basically give up your stuff in exchange for not dying outside the "community".
Were already all forced to exist by some dark godless energy.
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hmm.... well considering the lump appears to be a mass of souls forcefully clumped and fused together in an unholy crime agaist the concept of life......id' say they suffer.
48:03 "never fight fair"
West: Russia is using cold as a weapon
Also West during world war 2 on Japan: BOOM
It was nice you actually looked up bone mashing, but let's not get into the habit of doing what Seth tells us to. Just because, you know ;)
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Here is a dumb thing about serfes, you work someones elses land for free to get protectio. Then you go back and farm your own little land, what ever you grow from your land is not protected from tax, while the guy you work for don't pay taxes.
Serfdom was slavery with like 1 extra step
11:25 Bruh, your more likely to be accused for being a warlock and then be put on a breaking wheel than be worshipped as a god-like being.
Isn't Sseth married or like has a girlfriend, I could swear I heard him mention it or say it indirectly .
4x playback go brr
Also, keep googling shit in the middle of your videos, it's amazing
hdh?
I'd call it adhd.
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that song being on repeat was kinda annoying, id recommend changing it up so we dont have to listen to the same song for so long
48:10 it is strange that you didn't understand that it was a feint to distract a large part of Ukrainean forces from Donbass
Pls remove the background music.
First
Actually I was first :3
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