The saddest part of this is that she wasn't a whore, just some innocent peasant girl who really did love Tyrion. For the crime of making Tyrion happy and treating him like a real person, she was brutally and repeatedly violated by an entire unit of soldiers (as well as an unwilling Tyrion in the books).
When he asked where she went tywin answered "wherever it is whores go" Trion repeatedly asks people afterward "where do you suppose it is that whores go?" Or "where do whores go?"
In the books this is even worse Tysha and Tyrion were both 13. Obviously Tysha wasnt a whore, just a common girl, but due to Tywins own daddy issues, he didnt see much difference. Right before Tyrion kills Tywin, Jaime tells Tyrion the truth, and thats the reason Tyrion kills Tywin, and the reason he HATES Jaime at this point.
Further context : she wasn’t a whore those men were r*ping her Tyrion didn’t know that’s why he kills Tywin he finds out she did love him she wasn’t paid she was r*aped
Its my own personal belief that tywin promised shay that he wouldnt get tyrian killed if she helped to convict tyrian of murder. So shay became a witness out of love for tyrian.
@@tims_always_fishing7117 The thing is Shay actually loved tyrian even in the books. So it would be strange to change that in the show especially without any hints that shay doesnt actually love tyrian. So most likely shay did love tyrian. Atleast she did before the entire argument, and an argument that started in the first place because of shays jealousy. Hell tyrian literally told shay that he'll continue to pay her after marriage but shay herself says "oh u think im here for money?". Most likley shay loved tyrian.
@@shawnmcdoge2215 U call me a clown yet u forget they literally didnt change most of tyrians story until season 5. Tyrian and shay's story is literally the same in the books exept for the ending to tyrians first ark. Like Jamie telling the truth about tyrians old wife, tyrian's vow to bring death to all the Lannisters and thats about it. And the TV show pretty much follows the exact same story until the ending of his ark. So would be EXTREMELY strange to change that minor detail, furthermore to change it... without actually changing it and showing any kind of hint towards this being the case.
Bronn just sitting there like "holy $hit, this explains a lot." I wonder if he gained any respect for Tyrion's strength of character to survive something like that without being able to take his revenge.
Considering part of a judge of character game they were playing involved tyrion saying Bron had his heart broken and he vowed never again to himself, it's possible they bonded over this
The saddest part is Tysha wasn't a whore ,she was Tyrion's true love and wife by every rule ... Tywin could've just killed her but he did the most cruelest thing possible to her 😢
@@lon_spiderdorito1338 when Tyrion is escaping KL, he meets with Jaime & Jaime finally tells him the truth: She was never a whore, but actually was just a peasant girl. The whole thing actually happened, & she legitimately fell in love with Tyrion. Then, Tywin found out. No Lannister, especially a child of his, regardless of whether he hated said child or not, was going to marry a peasant. When Tyrion was told the story Jaime was so scared of their father that he stayed silent. I can't remember whether it's mentioned if he threatened Tysha or not, but we can assume he did. When Tyrion learns of this, he is furious. It's what prompts him to seek out and kill his father. To add icing to the cake, when Tyrion asks where she went, Tywin says, and I quote, 'wherever whores go'. Good night, he was an ass.
Bronn really is that guy! He definitely wanted to make money and gain status but I truly believe Tyrion and Bronn, Even Jamie and Bronn were real friends, probably some of the realist friends either of them had!
Beautiful foreshadowing and great line from Bronn. You can see the genuine horror and disgust in his face - I think that’s the closest to empathy I’ve seen from Bronn.
Seems to be the Lannister way. They were ruthless and designed to be despised. Tyrion as their scapegoat was the heroic exception. Heroic for them anyway.
This is so sad to think of this happening to a rape survivor. And gods know what happened to her afterwards. I know there are some vague details we get, but I mean the immediate afterwards.
Bronn wasnt saying that tyrion was less than him for not killing the man responsible, with that he told tyrion, dont let another man sweep a wh**e before your eyes.
Despicable though season 8 might be, (definitely) I can’t help but remember the encapsulating story told of the course of its run. A fantastic show! Shame about the end but doesn’t diminish the masterclass it was!
As everyone has said before, Tysha was a commoner and Tywin made Jaime lie to Tryion about the whole thing. The other major point is that this is a major plot hole in GRRM’s story. Jaime was named a Kingsguard at 15. There is not enough time between when this and Tyrion’s marriage for it all to line up.
This was atrocious, even worse in tje books. What actually happened would make Tywin and Jaimie dying a horrible death nothing less than an escape of whzt they actually deserved
With Jaime being the kingsguard Tyrion was the only heir to Casterly Rock.And marrying a commner would bring a lot of political trouble. Tywin's anger was reasonable but his actions were not.
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Yes Bronn…! He did exactly that…
Eventually....
@@petedeluisa6315he deserved much worse, both he and Cercei. Hell even Joffrey. Choking. Pffff.
Bronns' never wrong.
It’s like Bronn’s line was an intentional “fuck you” to the audience. Dave and Dan leaving out the truth about Tysha is an unforgivable sin
@@lindsay9838 Dumb & Dumber did everything to f*ck up the masterpiece series but the earlier seasons still remain the best TV entertainment…
"I would have killed the man who did that to me."
Nice bit of foreshadowing I missed.
Aged well😂😂
And he deserved it Tywin was a shit father
How not to miss when it’s foreshadowing and you haven’t watched the scene in the future that was alluded to ? 😂 catch22? 🔮
The saddest part of this is that she wasn't a whore, just some innocent peasant girl who really did love Tyrion. For the crime of making Tyrion happy and treating him like a real person, she was brutally and repeatedly violated by an entire unit of soldiers (as well as an unwilling Tyrion in the books).
Who gets married at 14 what @Dreamfyre
I don’t remember that was that in the show or just books
When he asked where she went tywin answered "wherever it is whores go"
Trion repeatedly asks people afterward "where do you suppose it is that whores go?" Or "where do whores go?"
@@theresagonzalez2448book, they changed it in the show
@@theresagonzalez2448books. They had a lot more of that than the show.
And when Tyrion was getting free from prison jaime confessed that Tysha was not a whore and she loved tyrion truly
In the book that made him want him to get revenge on everyone
Including Jaime
Tyrion in return lied and said he was the one who poisoned Joffrey. Jaimie just walks away without a word.
Still fooked all those soldiers tho. Hope the silver was worth it.
@@StrigidaeStrigiformes-sv6mjI don’t think she had a choice with that
In the books this is even worse
Tysha and Tyrion were both 13. Obviously Tysha wasnt a whore, just a common girl, but due to Tywins own daddy issues, he didnt see much difference.
Right before Tyrion kills Tywin, Jaime tells Tyrion the truth, and thats the reason Tyrion kills Tywin, and the reason he HATES Jaime at this point.
Yeah and Tyrion is even more cruel in the books too
The worst part is that she truly did love him
In defense of Jaime, he would've never thought that Tywin would be so cruel to his son.
@@Emanuel-oo6mcpeople say this without the context of action Tyrion does even in books he wasn’t that much evil
Further context : she wasn’t a whore those men were r*ping her Tyrion didn’t know that’s why he kills Tywin he finds out she did love him she wasn’t paid she was r*aped
You know shits fucked when even Bronn is like “Wait, what? Are you fucking serious?”
Its crazy shay still did what she did after hearing this story
Its my own personal belief that tywin promised shay that he wouldnt get tyrian killed if she helped to convict tyrian of murder. So shay became a witness out of love for tyrian.
@@parusan_no way, she was a who are
@@tims_always_fishing7117 The thing is Shay actually loved tyrian even in the books. So it would be strange to change that in the show especially without any hints that shay doesnt actually love tyrian. So most likely shay did love tyrian. Atleast she did before the entire argument, and an argument that started in the first place because of shays jealousy. Hell tyrian literally told shay that he'll continue to pay her after marriage but shay herself says "oh u think im here for money?". Most likley shay loved tyrian.
@@parusan_really you think its strange for them to change that detail.....they changed so many things but that part no impossible lol what a clown
@@shawnmcdoge2215 U call me a clown yet u forget they literally didnt change most of tyrians story until season 5. Tyrian and shay's story is literally the same in the books exept for the ending to tyrians first ark. Like Jamie telling the truth about tyrians old wife, tyrian's vow to bring death to all the Lannisters and thats about it. And the TV show pretty much follows the exact same story until the ending of his ark. So would be EXTREMELY strange to change that minor detail, furthermore to change it... without actually changing it and showing any kind of hint towards this being the case.
It's one of the saddest stories in the entire series. It explains so much of his character and why, in the end, he killed his father.
Bronn just sitting there like "holy $hit, this explains a lot."
I wonder if he gained any respect for Tyrion's strength of character to survive something like that without being able to take his revenge.
Considering part of a judge of character game they were playing involved tyrion saying Bron had his heart broken and he vowed never again to himself, it's possible they bonded over this
“I would’ve killed the man who did that to me”
Tyrion: oh don’t worry I will
You can see Bronn trying to move on as he sense it doesn't have a happy ending great writing
The saddest part is Tysha wasn't a whore ,she was Tyrion's true love and wife by every rule ... Tywin could've just killed her but he did the most cruelest thing possible to her 😢
That sounds just like something Tywin would've done, especially to Tyrion 😢
Joffrey got it from somewhere... sad indeed.
And Tywin also paid her a gold coin for Tyrion. Because he is Lannister.
@Dreamfyreif it's the same crossbow it was also used to kill roz(s?) so it was also a villain.
4 seasons later they cut the most important part of Tyrion’s story because they claimed viewers wouldn’t remember. D&D are BAD writers.
What was it?
He is the reason I cared about got at all
@@lon_spiderdorito1338 when Tyrion is escaping KL, he meets with Jaime & Jaime finally tells him the truth: She was never a whore, but actually was just a peasant girl. The whole thing actually happened, & she legitimately fell in love with Tyrion. Then, Tywin found out. No Lannister, especially a child of his, regardless of whether he hated said child or not, was going to marry a peasant. When Tyrion was told the story Jaime was so scared of their father that he stayed silent. I can't remember whether it's mentioned if he threatened Tysha or not, but we can assume he did. When Tyrion learns of this, he is furious. It's what prompts him to seek out and kill his father. To add icing to the cake, when Tyrion asks where she went, Tywin says, and I quote, 'wherever whores go'. Good night, he was an ass.
George is also a bad writer though. Good writers finish the story they start
Bronn shows he rely simpathies with Tyrion. He would kill Tywin for Tyrion if he asked for.
You know its bad when even Bronn seems disturbed
Bronn really is that guy! He definitely wanted to make money and gain status but I truly believe Tyrion and Bronn, Even Jamie and Bronn were real friends, probably some of the realist friends either of them had!
People fear the devil. But why fear the devil if humans exist.
The Devil is but a projection of humans to rationalize doing evil.
Shae:"oh seven hells, men are so blind when it comes to women"
"I would've killed the man who did that to me"
Funny you should mention that, Bronn...
And he did bron he did
Beautiful foreshadowing and great line from Bronn. You can see the genuine horror and disgust in his face - I think that’s the closest to empathy I’ve seen from Bronn.
I just adore Bronn and Tyrion's friendship. ❤ Sweet boys.
Know that he suffered greatly at the hands of his host. Who would've thought one so small could endure so much pain? And he did, Bronn, he did.
The levels of cruelty. From family no less.
Seems to be the Lannister way. They were ruthless and designed to be despised. Tyrion as their scapegoat was the heroic exception. Heroic for them anyway.
At the end " I would kill the man that did that "
He did with a cross bow
This is so sad to think of this happening to a rape survivor. And gods know what happened to her afterwards. I know there are some vague details we get, but I mean the immediate afterwards.
She wasn't raped
There are fan theories that she's the sailor's wife
@@PristianoPenaldoSUIIIIwhat sailors wife?
@@hiya_how_areya6436 She's a minor character that appears in Feast
@@PristianoPenaldoSUIIII oh. I haven't read that book in over 10 years.
Bronn, “I would have killed the man who did that to me.”
Me, “you don’t know Tywin Lannister dude.”
This story is why Shae stuck around. And why calling her a whore was so hurtful that she threw him to the wolves.
“That’s f*cked up.”
-Me, probably.
Lastly tywin made tyrion to do the business and made him pay her a gold, because he's a lannister
Don't F with Bronn😂😂😂😂
Is that how Tywin expresses his love for Tyrion? He teaches him a lesson instead of ignoring him?
Bronn wasnt saying that tyrion was less than him for not killing the man responsible, with that he told tyrion, dont let another man sweep a wh**e before your eyes.
I cannot imagine anyone else in either role, Bronn or Tyrion.
He was so good in this show....one of my favorites but then again, he's pretty great in every role...fellow Jersey great!!!!❤❤❤❤
I always loved tyrion, such in-depth with his heart and mind
The writing!
The actors!
Its a shame Shay replaced the actual M.V.P of his heart in the show.
Only place in the series where Bron announces his code. Yes it’s just enough. The rest he’s playing the highly capable sell sword and it works.
A lanyster always pays his debts .
Lannister*
@@chelsss12112 grammar police 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Despicable though season 8 might be, (definitely) I can’t help but remember the encapsulating story told of the course of its run. A fantastic show! Shame about the end but doesn’t diminish the masterclass it was!
Tywin was a horrid monster. Good on Tyrion for killing him. He deserved nothing less.
Fuck this series was so good
Bronn is a true G.
There's more to the story than meets the eye in these SHORTS!
God's the writing was strong then
Even Bronn was like "😕... bruh..."
And she became the sailor's wife, her kid looks just like a Lannister.
This entire show is brilliantly sorrowful. No other show compares to the loss and lament.
This part of the show made me bawl like a child 😢
Sir this is a Wendy's
This show was sooooooo good , until it wasn’t
Now i see why tyrion killed Tywin lannister
"Why don't you visit on the weekends? We never lied to you!"
And he did.
Bronn out here planting the seeds of chaos.. shit really went wild when Tywin died and couldn't keep anyone under thumb
He's father was head of the royal family and commander of the army blames his youngest son for killing his wife
I love that this scene is basically 3 friends sharing traumatic experiences
As everyone has said before, Tysha was a commoner and Tywin made Jaime lie to Tryion about the whole thing. The other major point is that this is a major plot hole in GRRM’s story. Jaime was named a Kingsguard at 15. There is not enough time between when this and Tyrion’s marriage for it all to line up.
The ultimate foreshadow
But she wasn't though.
She was a peasant that loved Tyrion.
"It Feels Like the First Time...."
Damn, I can't believe Jaime helped Tywin to do this to Tyrion...
Bronn, grade A foreshadowing 😅
Worse she heard all that & still did it to tyrion
Bron was forshadowing for us and we never even knew it
This shit is sooooo dark when u read the book and learn the truth "jesus fucking christ, it was traumatizing"
Humans can be indeed monsters
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So sad that they always did things to there brother to make him suffer all the time😢
Excellent 👌 loop
Shae had the best line they cut🤷🏼♂️🤓😎✌🏼😆
Yeah, people making monsters. Scary.
Bronn the foreshadow swordsman.
Wait Bronn, u have Tyrion the idea
Bron felt for him jesus christ you you it's bad
Dam Homie . That's cruel
Nuts Deep!😂
Dude that's deep
He did...
I don't remember this scene
This was atrocious, even worse in tje books. What actually happened would make Tywin and Jaimie dying a horrible death nothing less than an escape of whzt they actually deserved
Why you would ever remove the scene where Jamie tells him the truth is beyond me
With Jaime being the kingsguard Tyrion was the only heir to Casterly Rock.And marrying a commner would bring a lot of political trouble. Tywin's anger was reasonable but his actions were not.
Forshadowing
Well that didn’t last part didn’t age very well
Why put the Stark/Winterfell theme over this? lmao
Well dam.
😭😭😭😭😭😭
I as well
Tywin deserved a worse death.
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What happened to the woman afterwards
Foreshadowing much
And he did off his father
😮😮😮
Music from the show rather than cringe ass “sigma” soundtracks. This is peak
hahaha
That's a terrible story...😢😠
I hated that dude (the dad)