To me this scene sums up one of the main themes of Westeros...that is that sometimes, what is or seems honourable isn't necessarily what is right. Its on and Aemon, but also Ned, choosing to forsake his honour and lie about Jon to protect him and keep his promise to his sister. And Jaime, sworn by oath like all Kingsguard to protect evil kings doing evil things until he forsakes his honour and kills the mad king to save the city, but is vilified as an oathbreaker. Its not always black and white..sometimes a man must choose ..
Jon expected life to be for him and Robb, what it had been like for Benjen and Ned: they'd both serve the realm, see each other every few years, live as brothers in honour... but never counted on Benjen going missing and Ned being killed, never realizing how unstable things really were...
ameon was almost king,but he didn't want to have his brother's aegon life at risk. so he passed it over and told the high council to choose aegon as well. he then left to the wall to forever be away from the game of thrones. the top five greatest targreyanys ever.
It's a great display of "I have A LOT of life experience to back me up" - in this case, 100 years of it. It probably helped in the characterization that Peter Vaughan was himself 87 years old at the time.
In Altered Carbon, the protagonist says: "A man who never loves, gives no hostage to fortune." Great quote, fitting with this same thought you expressed.
Peter Vaughan delivery of an already superb dialogue is flawless, this is scenes like these that make this show a fantastic achievement in an era where every piece of entertainement is dumbed down or over the top.
"If your lord father had to choose between honor on the one hand, and those he loves on the other, what would he do" "He would do whatever was right no matter what" Biggest clue for R+L=J IMO
Not just that ..Look at the otter images ...The love of a woman, the feel of a newborn ..and a brother's smile..Cant be coincidence...All put there as clues that only now make sense ..
"We all do our duty when there is no cost to it, honour comes easy then, Yet sooner or later in every man's life there comes a day when it's not easy." Jon didn't have just one day like that he had three, 1. When he choose to stay in the Nights Watch instead of going to join Robb in the war of the five kings. 2 When he betrayed Ygritte and fled to warn the Nights Watch, 3 When he killed Dany and stop her plans for world conquest
Jon didn't kill dany? The show was canceled after season 4. Hopefully they will come back to it if they ever find some showrunners who care deeply about the source material...
How amazing that this conversion was referenced in the finale. Jon's great uncle, unbeknownst to him at the time, whom he came to admire and seek counsel from.
I loved Aemon in the books and show. This actor did his character a great service imo. Aemon was HUGE in Jon's growth as a man in those handful of years. "Kill the boy and let the man be born" "You are half the age that Egg was, and your own burden is a crueler one, I fear. You will have little joy of your command, but I think you have the strength in you to do the things that must be done. Kill the boy, Jon Snow." He did in more ways than one...Great stuff. Sad GRRM will never even get the penultimate book done let alone the series. He's gone all political and wasting him time with TDS bs today and the last 4 years. Before it was him traveling doing book signings keeping him from writing, then the show and other easy money makers. Then C19 hit and I thought "NICE, he's locked down in NM or Arizona or wherever he lives and will finally finish the book" and 3yrs later of C19 and nothing but TDS rants and a couple chapters and excuses. No way we're getting another book. My ONLY hope is we get a Robert Jordan situation where when George dies(which has to be not all that far off with his obesity and age), his wife and publisher finds a comparable author to finish the series like Brandon Sanderson did with Wheel Of Time(bless him for that since he did great)with all the notes he hopefully leaves behind and what he tells his wife he plans for the ending. Crossing my fingers.
RIP Peter Vaughan. This is one of the best scenes in the entire series. B&W keep butchering the story (to me GoT died with Tywin) but they did choose excellent actors for smaller roles. Vaughan was the best Maester Aemon we could've ever asked for. He was 93 years old and now his watch has ended.
Because of how all of the characters' ages have been moved up, to avoid casting actual children in the main roles, they had to eliminate an entire generation of Targaryens. In the book, Aemon was the Mad King's great-uncle, not his uncle.
What I really love is that sense of regret, that if Aemon had been strong he would have rode out and damned his oath, that he hates that he was not strong enough to deny it.
It is wonderful to rewatch this scence after season 8. And it is far more interesting to read the comments, written years ago. We knew nothing but we was taught with so many lessons. I am grateful to be a part of it. Thanks for these lessons, I will try not to forget and implement them in my life
One of the best scenes in the series, IMO. Peter Vaughan (Aemon) is fantastic. The lines about the deaths of Aemon's family are delivered so fucking perfectly. Especially the one about the children.
@@eagle_and_the_dragonIt is definitely possible. Robert's Rebellion was because he thought Rhaegar had kidnapped Lyanna. Ned then comes home with a bastard child. It is entirely possible he was able to at least suspect that Jon may be Rhaegar and Lyanna's child, especially given the way he hears Jon talk about Ned. Could he know for sure? No. But he could have at least considered the possibility.
@@semperaugustus661 this hypothesis is very dull, it plays with the viewers mind to not mention such details. As such, people would fantasize the conclusion you came up with. But it becomes a better dialogue and story knowing he's got no knowledge about Jon's real identity and catapults his strong character to the audience.
Maybe, he was a maester and they know almost everything but not like Varys. And he spoke about Lyanna when he says "woman love" cause Lyanna loved Ned as a sister
i doubt he knows, Rhaegar and Aemon were in constant contact through ravens, but after Rhaegar's death, how could he know what is going on to the south or what Ned did, I doubt Ned would ever confide in him
@marcusday37 It's not that hard to imagine. Aemon is in his nineties, and each generation is about 20 years (they got married young in the Medieval period), so there could easily be four generations between Aemon and Viserys/Daenerys. It only with our modern sensibilities and THIRTY-year generations that we think it's strange.
They took a risk in casting a man who was already 87 for a role that would last five years, but it paid off. He knew how to play a very old man because...he was one.
@Celedam Actually, I think that it just makes more sense. In the books Aemon's brother Aegon was Daenarys and Viserys' great-grandfather. It doesn't really seem realistic that the older brother of your GREAT-grandfather would still be living.
Its not only Aemon knowing how Jon feels but he also knows Jon is Ned son (well he isn`t) .. the same Ned who was one of the heads of the rebellion against his brothers son, the same Ned who first stormed King`s Landing if i`m not mistaken
what bothers me is that he said that either Aerys or Jahaerys (Aery´s father) was his brother, he was actually the uncle to Jaeharys who was the son of Aegon. Maybe he is referring to both the burning of Sumerhall and Robert´s Rebellion, but it kind of bothered me because some of his words imply Aerys was his brother. I love this scene though because he gets Jon and how he talks about "a brother´s smile" just reminds me that he gave up the throne in favor of his brother Aegon. I just can´t help but think he feels guilty in a way for giving up his "duty" to the crown as the heir because he was supposed to become king, but he didn´t want to, we don´t really know why apart from his vows as a Maester, but he is implying that he hasn´t always chosen duty over love so maybe he gave up a crown so his brother could have it, so that his brother could be maybe not happy but save? Noble´s didn´t like Aegon and as a prince close to the king he was more vulnerable than as a king, that´s just something I like to thing happened. (Although I am pretty sure this is canon)
Aemon skipped his nephew "Jaehaerys 2nd". At 2:49 he says that "his brother "Aegon the 5th" was followed by his "son" "Aerys The 2nd(mad king)" But Aerys is Aegon's grandson not "son". Aegons son is "Jaehaerys the 2nd" and Jaehaerys is Aerys(mad king)father. Aegon makes Jaehaerys, Jaehaerys makes Aerys and Aemon kinda forget's Jaehaerys. I guess that's fine considering his 100 years old, memory ain't so great.
So much more important things they should have put in this series, too bad they give more value to fuck scenes then they do on the great details and plot twists of the writen story.
One of the most powerful scenes of the entire series, indeed. RIP Maester Aemon.
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I finished this video and said to myself "Such a powerful scene", scrolled down and instantly saw your comment.
Have my upvote
This one and the conversation with Tyrion and Oberyn in the dungeons
my top scene
And now his watch is ended. Rest in peace, Peter Vaughan.
Pretty sure that's just based on a fictional TV show. He's actually just an old dude that died.
@@gupiwa I know it’s a five year gap, but he meant that the actor died in real life
"You wanted to see me"...
Jon Troll Snow
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O shit i didn’t even catch that 👁 👁 😂
"Love is the death of duty."
You've been warned Jon.. you've been warned..
Paulo Abundo he chose duty. Only someone raised by Ned Stark could have.
@@tylergibson6299 but robb didnt who was son of lord stark
Daemon did so with Rhaenyra and his brother to his end.
Duty was the death of his love surely
2:23-2:37 the dragon still lives in Aemon.
I think he was the best targaryen ever to live
Jaehaerys I - "am I a joke to you?"
If u meant jon thats Coz he was half stark and raised by starks😂
@@jonstark153 think he meant Aemon
Definitely one of the best Targaryens
Daemon B was the best!
To me this scene sums up one of the main themes of Westeros...that is that sometimes, what is or seems honourable isn't necessarily what is right. Its on and Aemon, but also Ned, choosing to forsake his honour and lie about Jon to protect him and keep his promise to his sister. And Jaime, sworn by oath like all Kingsguard to protect evil kings doing evil things until he forsakes his honour and kills the mad king to save the city, but is vilified as an oathbreaker. Its not always black and white..sometimes a man must choose ..
He was casually standing watching his sister get crowned after literally doing something that he killed the Mad king for!
Jaime is a hypocrite.
Didn't you watch season 8? Jamie said it himself that he "never did care about the common folk" :)
@@skrishna3no Dan and Dave ruined his character.. thought that would be obvious by now
@@CrowzEyeFr tho they butchered Jaimie, he was such a compelling character until season 5 past lmao
Jon expected life to be for him and Robb, what it had been like for Benjen and Ned: they'd both serve the realm, see each other every few years, live as brothers in honour... but never counted on Benjen going missing and Ned being killed, never realizing how unstable things really were...
ameon was almost king,but he didn't want to have his brother's aegon life at risk. so he passed it over and told the high council to choose aegon as well. he then left to the wall to forever be away from the game of thrones. the top five greatest targreyanys ever.
1:57 That's how you say "You know nothing, Jon Snow" using only laughter...
It's a great display of "I have A LOT of life experience to back me up" - in this case, 100 years of it. It probably helped in the characterization that Peter Vaughan was himself 87 years old at the time.
"we are only human and the gods have fashioned us for love, that is our great glory and great tragedy"
they should have put that quote in this scene!
Yeah yes
In Altered Carbon, the protagonist says: "A man who never loves, gives no hostage to fortune."
Great quote, fitting with this same thought you expressed.
Peter Vaughan delivery of an already superb dialogue is flawless, this is scenes like these that make this show a fantastic achievement in an era where every piece of entertainement is dumbed down or over the top.
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One of the best scenes in my opinion. Especially being a non-Tywin one.
"If your lord father had to choose between honor on the one hand, and those he loves on the other, what would he do"
"He would do whatever was right no matter what"
Biggest clue for R+L=J IMO
how?
+Jamx_12 Choosing to keep the secret, sacrificing his honor to keep the ones the loves safe, doing what's right, no matter what.
this scene was truly the best clue for the theory
Not just that ..Look at the otter images ...The love of a woman, the feel of a newborn ..and a brother's smile..Cant be coincidence...All put there as clues that only now make sense ..
And Jon's right hand is burnt, while his left hand gets covered in blood from feeding the ravens.
"We all do our duty when there is no cost to it, honour comes easy then, Yet sooner or later in every man's life there comes a day when it's not easy." Jon didn't have just one day like that he had three, 1. When he choose to stay in the Nights Watch instead of going to join Robb in the war of the five kings. 2 When he betrayed Ygritte and fled to warn the Nights Watch, 3 When he killed Dany and stop her plans for world conquest
Jon didn't kill dany? The show was canceled after season 4. Hopefully they will come back to it if they ever find some showrunners who care deeply about the source material...
Lightingwarrior I would argue when he chose to save the wildlings despite the protests of the rest of the Nights Watch
How amazing that this conversion was referenced in the finale. Jon's great uncle, unbeknownst to him at the time, whom he came to admire and seek counsel from.
not quite, he was his great great uncle. Aemon was the uncle of the mad king, who was Jon's grandfather.
I loved Aemon in the books and show. This actor did his character a great service imo. Aemon was HUGE in Jon's growth as a man in those handful of years. "Kill the boy and let the man be born"
"You are half the age that Egg was, and your own burden is a crueler one, I fear. You will have little joy of your command, but I think you have the strength in you to do the things that must be done. Kill the boy, Jon Snow." He did in more ways than one...Great stuff. Sad GRRM will never even get the penultimate book done let alone the series. He's gone all political and wasting him time with TDS bs today and the last 4 years. Before it was him traveling doing book signings keeping him from writing, then the show and other easy money makers. Then C19 hit and I thought "NICE, he's locked down in NM or Arizona or wherever he lives and will finally finish the book" and 3yrs later of C19 and nothing but TDS rants and a couple chapters and excuses. No way we're getting another book.
My ONLY hope is we get a Robert Jordan situation where when George dies(which has to be not all that far off with his obesity and age), his wife and publisher finds a comparable author to finish the series like Brandon Sanderson did with Wheel Of Time(bless him for that since he did great)with all the notes he hopefully leaves behind and what he tells his wife he plans for the ending. Crossing my fingers.
RIP Peter Vaughan. This is one of the best scenes in the entire series. B&W keep butchering the story (to me GoT died with Tywin) but they did choose excellent actors for smaller roles. Vaughan was the best Maester Aemon we could've ever asked for. He was 93 years old and now his watch has ended.
We are only humans gods have fashioned us for love . It is our great glory and great tragedy .
- maester aemon
Because of how all of the characters' ages have been moved up, to avoid casting actual children in the main roles, they had to eliminate an entire generation of Targaryens. In the book, Aemon was the Mad King's great-uncle, not his uncle.
What I really love is that sense of regret, that if Aemon had been strong he would have rode out and damned his oath, that he hates that he was not strong enough to deny it.
It is wonderful to rewatch this scence after season 8. And it is far more interesting to read the comments, written years ago. We knew nothing but we was taught with so many lessons. I am grateful to be a part of it. Thanks for these lessons, I will try not to forget and implement them in my life
One of the best scenes in the series, IMO. Peter Vaughan (Aemon) is fantastic. The lines about the deaths of Aemon's family are delivered so fucking perfectly. Especially the one about the children.
This quote resonates with a new meaning.
His uncle telling him without telling him 🔥🔥🔥
His great grand uncle
Show's end hinted here probably.
yes.
Incredible actor for Maester Aemon, can't wait to see more of him after they're back to the Wall.
All this time Jon thought his family was far away but he had an uncle near him this whole time.
Remember when that scene aired… speechless.
this is why i respect my elderly! they have seen and felt so much in their lives to live that long you must suffer time and life itself.
People think Aemon is talking about Ned, when in fact he is speaking about Rhaegar's love for Lyanna. He knows Jon's true identity.
He couldn't have known it.
@@eagle_and_the_dragon He may have gotten wind of the whole Rhaegar affair and put 2 in 2 together. Him immediately liking Jon.
@@eagle_and_the_dragonIt is definitely possible. Robert's Rebellion was because he thought Rhaegar had kidnapped Lyanna. Ned then comes home with a bastard child. It is entirely possible he was able to at least suspect that Jon may be Rhaegar and Lyanna's child, especially given the way he hears Jon talk about Ned. Could he know for sure? No. But he could have at least considered the possibility.
@@semperaugustus661 this hypothesis is very dull, it plays with the viewers mind to not mention such details. As such, people would fantasize the conclusion you came up with. But it becomes a better dialogue and story knowing he's got no knowledge about Jon's real identity and catapults his strong character to the audience.
And that was jon snow's fate.
This is a top 10 scene of the series.
The end of game of thrones right here.
What is honor compared to a woman's love?
Wonder if Maester Aemon knew Jon was Targaryen the whole time.
Maybe, he was a maester and they know almost everything but not like Varys. And he spoke about Lyanna when he says "woman love" cause Lyanna loved Ned as a sister
He actually maybe knew, there's definitely a possibility. Considering he's a maester and everything was written down ;) We'll never know.
i doubt he knows, Rhaegar and Aemon were in constant contact through ravens, but after Rhaegar's death, how could he know what is going on to the south or what Ned did, I doubt Ned would ever confide in him
Hello, that's an interesting point. Could you say how exactly are they related? Like who is Aemon to Jon :)
Олег Малкавиан he was John’s Great Uncle
@Celedam Immediately after I posted that, I realized there ARE children in the main roles. I meant Robb, Jon, and especially Dany.
When Pops schools you on how things are.
Such a good callback since he proved he was like his adopted father in the end. He chose his duty over love.
Love is the death of duty💯💯
Unbelievable scene.
the silver hair was screaming from the start. Master Aemon’s death was the most peaceful death in GOT
“I am a maester of the Citadel.” Chills
One small malady, Aegon V was _not_ followed by Aerys II, But instead Jaeherys II, Aemon's nephew, who was _then_ followed by Aerys.
oh Master oh Jon if only the two of you knew who Jon was....
great scene
@Bek359 Good point. I had to remember about my own grandfather who had nine kids.
I really hope Peter Vaughan lives long enough to make it to season 6. I don't think you can replace him as Maester Aemon.
Dude hanging with his great great great uncle
We shall never see his like again. Goodbye Maester Aemon!
When it dawns on you that this guy shunning his duty led to all the conflict of ice and fire. He would have been a good king
i think the connection goes deeper then that
imo this was done better than in the books. they cut some cool lil stuff but better
Snow your great uncle
That part at 2:23...oh man, I get chills.
"You wanted to see me?"
I'm sure he'd like to see anything, nimrod.
fucking old man makes me cry
Peter Vaughan murdered this role. MURDERED it. Steals every scene he’s in
@marcusday37 It's not that hard to imagine. Aemon is in his nineties, and each generation is about 20 years (they got married young in the Medieval period), so there could easily be four generations between Aemon and Viserys/Daenerys. It only with our modern sensibilities and THIRTY-year generations that we think it's strange.
What a great scene. It also shows that he knew that John was Targaryen.
This is so good it must be from Season 8 amirite?
This scene can be considered as forshadowing of complicated Love between Denarys and Jon and their child.
Nidhi Chaubey If they indeed have a child.
They have no child
This scene works especially well if we assume Jon is who the fans believe...
They took a risk in casting a man who was already 87 for a role that would last five years, but it paid off. He knew how to play a very old man because...he was one.
@Celedam Actually, I think that it just makes more sense. In the books Aemon's brother Aegon was Daenarys and Viserys' great-grandfather. It doesn't really seem realistic that the older brother of your GREAT-grandfather would still be living.
This is what it’s all about, in the end
Maester Amon and Uncle Iroh need their own spinoff
What épisode ?
oh that laught at 1:58 if we only knew back then what HE knew......
do you thinjk maestor Aemond knew of jons Heritage by any means
I honestly can't believe they did that season, omg what a wasted masterpiece degraded so hard
Pretty much how it will end next week
Its not only Aemon knowing how Jon feels but he also knows Jon is Ned son (well he isn`t) .. the same Ned who was one of the heads of the rebellion against his brothers son, the same Ned who first stormed King`s Landing if i`m not mistaken
what bothers me is that he said that either Aerys or Jahaerys (Aery´s father) was his brother, he was actually the uncle to Jaeharys who was the son of Aegon. Maybe he is referring to both the burning of Sumerhall and Robert´s Rebellion, but it kind of bothered me because some of his words imply Aerys was his brother. I love this scene though because he gets Jon and how he talks about "a brother´s smile" just reminds me that he gave up the throne in favor of his brother Aegon. I just can´t help but think he feels guilty in a way for giving up his "duty" to the crown as the heir because he was supposed to become king, but he didn´t want to, we don´t really know why apart from his vows as a Maester, but he is implying that he hasn´t always chosen duty over love so maybe he gave up a crown so his brother could have it, so that his brother could be maybe not happy but save? Noble´s didn´t like Aegon and as a prince close to the king he was more vulnerable than as a king, that´s just something I like to thing happened. (Although I am pretty sure this is canon)
Aerys II's father was Jaehaerys II.
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Aemon skipped his nephew "Jaehaerys 2nd".
At 2:49 he says that "his brother
"Aegon the 5th" was followed by his "son" "Aerys The 2nd(mad king)"
But Aerys is Aegon's grandson not "son".
Aegons son is "Jaehaerys the 2nd" and Jaehaerys is Aerys(mad king)father.
Aegon makes Jaehaerys, Jaehaerys makes Aerys and Aemon kinda forget's Jaehaerys.
I guess that's fine considering his 100 years old, memory ain't so great.
It just occurred to me that Maester Aemon is Jon's great uncle.
Jon > Rhaegar > Mad King (Aerys) > Aegon V = Aemon
They were blood and didn’t even know it
@marcusday37 Well, he IS ~100 years old.
He was the blood the of dragon and now his watch is ended :(
whatt epsode?????
Season 1 Ep 9
Aemon went to the wall so he couldn’t be used politically against his brother, was a good man.
Must have been a huge burden for him, thinking that if he hadn't refused the throne, maybe the disaster of his house would have been averted.
He skipped Aegon's son, Jaehaerys II. Jaehaerys II was the father of the Mad King Aerys II.
uccruzman I was thinking the exact same thing
Yes, they made it a bit less complicated in the series
uccruzman yes exactly!!!
man's like 198 years old, give him some latitude.
Aemon Targeryn.
The only BAMF bad enough to die of old age.
Stay in the cave Jon! Stay in the cave!!!
So John winds up exactly like Master Aemon.
You thought that old man's hair was GREY, didn't you boy?
when GoT was good .... damn
This actually was Jon's Great Uncle. Or Great Great Uncle. Right? I have this weird feeling Aemon knew who he was all along!
So much more important things they should have put in this series, too bad they give more value to fuck scenes then they do on the great details and plot twists of the writen story.
Did Aeman Targaryen knowing of Jon real identity? I also wondered
I doubt it
Must have been going senile to forget eggs son was jaegerys
2 targaryens talking-
2:56 shit pants
So how old would Aemon have been, in this scene?
100
Even older in the books
@@sillysailor5932 yes he was aged down about 2 years in the show. He was about 102 when he last appeared
@WBSlashH I thought they missued a whole generation of targarians in the show compared to the books
In books the mad King is his brothers grandson not his son
Two Targaryens together
The old guy is a better actor
lul, turn on auto subs and go to 1:02
plplplplomg Newborn sons in Europe always get to me man