Brass: Birmingham my beloved

Поділитися
Вставка
  • Опубліковано 26 лип 2023
  • Why is Brass: Birmingham #1 on BGG? Is it the theme? Is it because it has a dark mode? Maybe Quinns can clear this up for us.
    Support the Show: bit.ly/SupportSUSD / / shutupandsitdown
    Full Brass: Birmingham Review: www.shutupandsitdown.com/vide...
    Buy Brass: Birmingham: bit.ly/3U7UyOd In US: bit.ly/425oM6p In UK: bit.ly/4as4qHY In CA: bit.ly/3vJF1u1
    Visit SU&SD for more cardboard antics: www.shutupandsitdown.com/
    ~FOLLOW US AROUND, WHY DON'T YOU~
    Podcast: anchor.fm/susd
    Twitter: / shutupshow
    Instagram: / shut.up.and.sit.down
    Twitch: / shutupandsitdown
    TikTok: / shutupshow
  • Ігри

КОМЕНТАРІ • 237

  • @bullfrog417
    @bullfrog417 11 місяців тому +222

    I nearly spit my drink at the Monopoly comparison.

  • @shablam0
    @shablam0 11 місяців тому +296

    I remember watching your original Brass: Birmingham video and I was kind of convinced, but not FULLY convinced I should get the game. In just 2 minutes, I already see the appeal of this game and I'm slapping it on a wishlist.
    Please do more short-form content like this, especially of videos you've done in the past that are really old!!

    • @daleprather3026
      @daleprather3026 11 місяців тому +3

      Better yet, slap it on your "Owned" list.

    • @joseroman3791
      @joseroman3791 11 місяців тому +3

      You're in for a astonishingly mind-blowing treat then, sir...

    • @lucassantana5443
      @lucassantana5443 11 місяців тому +4

      Wow, I was just coming here to say the same thing.
      I loved this short video!

    • @revimfadli4666
      @revimfadli4666 11 місяців тому +3

      Also for reviews buried under hours of podcast

    • @helxis
      @helxis 11 місяців тому +1

      Keep in mind that their review of the original review of Brass was negative and they suddenly changed their tune when the hyped Birmingham came out. If you're going to try Brass, I strongly recommend starting with Lancashire.

  • @tiusic
    @tiusic 11 місяців тому +46

    Quinns: "I can't imagine a person who's excited to simulate the industrial revolution"
    Me: Lost 1000 hours of my life to Factorio

    • @TheStarspire
      @TheStarspire 11 місяців тому +7

      Me as a Victoria 3 player too.

    • @happytomato1135
      @happytomato1135 11 місяців тому

      Those are rookie numbers...

    • @loenk2651
      @loenk2651 3 місяці тому +1

      The theme is unironically a big plus for me... The industrial revolution is perfect for an economy game.

  • @MrTombombodil
    @MrTombombodil 11 місяців тому +107

    The reason it's in my top 3 all time favorites, is because it is the most interactive strategy game I've ever played in my life. 80% of the actions you take in this game have a big immediate impact on every other player in the game (both positive and negative impact). and 99% have a big immediate impact on at least one other player.

    • @zeradox1901
      @zeradox1901 11 місяців тому

      Lancashire of Birmingham for 2P? 🤷🏼‍♂️🤷🏿🤷‍♀️

    • @HeinzMcDurgen
      @HeinzMcDurgen 11 місяців тому

      @@zeradox1901 I've played Birmingham for a few years - currently my BGG account says I've played it ~20 times, not the most, but more than a few. That's been 2 player a lot, 3 and 4 player a few times. I recently picked up Lancashire because of this exact same question, and because someone was getting rid of an unopened KS version for next to nothing.
      After 3 plays of Lancashire, my wife and I agree - Birmingham is the route to go. Lancashire just feels like a race to sell your cotton mills. Do you go for the shipyards? We've both won with them, and I had a loss with one. Industries all having the same link value makes it a bit "eh" when scoring that part of the game. I'm glad I own it, but Birmingham is far and away a better experience IMO. Much more flexibility and room to try different strategies.

    • @sailingsolstice
      @sailingsolstice 11 місяців тому

      I agree. Every move you make in this game is loaded with consequence. I love it.

    • @helxis
      @helxis 11 місяців тому

      @@zeradox1901 Both are good at 2p, but I generally only do that to teach people the game. They both shine at 3 or 4. Start with Lancashire either way.

    • @payprplayn
      @payprplayn 11 місяців тому +1

      If you like highly interactive strategy games I can't recommend Food Chain Magnate enough. SU&SD have a great video on that too if you're unsure.

  • @patrickabby2589
    @patrickabby2589 11 місяців тому +30

    Absolutely love this style of video. Short and sweet and gets me excited to play. Would love to see more of these

  • @mafiacat88
    @mafiacat88 11 місяців тому +7

    I can 100% back this up.
    Got it because of the original review and...it's great.
    It's one of those ones where as much as I like playing other games, there's a little part of me going "we could be playing brass instead".

  • @AhJong0
    @AhJong0 11 місяців тому +12

    Love it, this is such a great format for revisiting games that have already been reviewed and seeing if they’re still thought of as positively, if at all. Think the length works a treat and I can imagine this would be a whole lot easier/quicker to make than the usual 20 minute mega reviews.😊

  • @Zendrunk
    @Zendrunk 11 місяців тому +32

    That monopoly comparison made me belly laugh, some true poetry any fan of heavy games will understand.

    • @denniskashton2412
      @denniskashton2412 11 місяців тому +1

      Really? It was fine but I've seen so many heavy/euro gamers bash monopoly it doesn't even get a chuckle from me anymore.

    • @alexanderskeggs5768
      @alexanderskeggs5768 3 місяці тому

      Funny or not, anyone that bashes Monopoly will get a chuckle from me!

  • @metalrock720
    @metalrock720 11 місяців тому +4

    Caverna does the daytime nighttime thing on their board

    • @daleprather3026
      @daleprather3026 11 місяців тому

      I knew I've seen it, just couldn't remember where

  • @ianwieserman1068
    @ianwieserman1068 11 місяців тому +2

    I loved this short format video. I'd like to see a few more along with your usual line up!

  • @luigiscazzari4724
    @luigiscazzari4724 11 місяців тому +2

    Love the new short videos format. Looking forward to more experiments. ❤
    I always thought that was Matt the one excited about simulating a spreadsheet

  • @janosbornemisza1807
    @janosbornemisza1807 8 місяців тому +1

    Outstanding! I’m biased given Brass is one of my all time favourites (and it was your video on Brass : Birmingham that convinced me to take the plunge on that version), but this captures why it’s so damn good perfectly. In just 2 minutes! How!!

  • @ryanc3201
    @ryanc3201 11 місяців тому +14

    Caverna does the night time/day time board thing. Though I don't expect Quinns to remember every board in every game ever 😂

    • @assasinscreed406
      @assasinscreed406 11 місяців тому

      Caverna got the to-the-attic treatment tho, they don't like it enough to forget it.

    • @helxis
      @helxis 11 місяців тому

      Who could remember Caverna when Agricola exists?

    • @sambeck7402
      @sambeck7402 11 місяців тому +1

      I haven't played agricola since caverna came out. To each their own.

    • @ryanc3201
      @ryanc3201 11 місяців тому +1

      @@helxis you'll be surprised to learn that some of us like Caverna

    • @helxis
      @helxis 11 місяців тому

      @@ryanc3201 You mean "appalled".

  • @sacchrine
    @sacchrine 11 місяців тому +2

    Love this! Haven't played Brass: Birmingham in a bit, but it's still one of my favorite board games

  • @nathanremington
    @nathanremington 11 місяців тому +1

    Short lil vids like this. This is GREAT

  • @invisiblestoo
    @invisiblestoo 11 місяців тому +5

    As someone who drove to Birmingham last week, all I could think of is this game as I looked at all the road signs.😂

  • @johnneale7528
    @johnneale7528 11 місяців тому +9

    Informative, entertaining, accurate, hilarious...great video about a great game! I'm excited to see new styles of videos from you and the team!

  • @larrytedmcbride
    @larrytedmcbride 11 місяців тому +1

    Perfect timing, we just played the original Brass the other day and we all really enjoyed it. I just watched an how to play video of Brass Birmingham and I do kinda want to get it as well. I love wooden ships, so I may miss seeing them around the board, but those rum barrels do look fun.

  • @trevorvicars3155
    @trevorvicars3155 11 місяців тому +1

    This and Caverna are my two favorite games and both of them have day and night sides for the boards for whatever reason. Weird design choice but mechanically both are perfect.

  • @TheOldDad
    @TheOldDad 11 місяців тому +2

    1:57: Perfect mini-review of Monopoly!

    • @Ainar86
      @Ainar86 11 місяців тому

      SU&SD never misses a chance to diss Mono in the most elegant fashion!

  • @RedBairnMedia
    @RedBairnMedia 11 місяців тому +5

    Why indeed. Birmingham by lamplight is the superior Birmingham.

  • @hanseathl
    @hanseathl 11 місяців тому +1

    Very good choice. You played my favorite piece of classic music to show my favorite board game 😊

  • @janofe2232
    @janofe2232 11 місяців тому +1

    Lowlands can be flipped (player boards at least) for a rainy or sunny aesthetic - which is close

    • @Aethernyl
      @Aethernyl 11 місяців тому +2

      Caverna also has day/night sides!

  •  11 місяців тому +2

    Played my first game yesterday... LOVE IT!

  • @TheShapingSickness
    @TheShapingSickness 11 місяців тому

    I played this once for 30 minutes in a demo and been looking for it for so long 😢

  • @murrayjeffree8245
    @murrayjeffree8245 11 місяців тому +2

    This video just needed Matt to burst in yelling "It's a family show!" At the end. I'm not sure I'll be able to look at monopoly the same way again now.

  • @freejay6091
    @freejay6091 11 місяців тому +2

    Alright. I see your experimental style is coming nicely along.

  • @rosmith606
    @rosmith606 11 місяців тому +2

    Quinns I love your shirt, where'd you get it?? I love the pastel colours!

  • @NTac_Tic
    @NTac_Tic 9 місяців тому +1

    Im sold by this video alone

  • @whoeverhijackedmyemailfuck5778
    @whoeverhijackedmyemailfuck5778 11 місяців тому +1

    This video is honestly great, I’ve been dying for high quality, short form board game content and this is exactly that. I’m really happy to see this channel grow and try new things, keep it up.👍

    • @darrenbelcher6121
      @darrenbelcher6121 11 місяців тому

      you should check out 3MBG (3 minute board games)!

  • @Lunartic128
    @Lunartic128 11 місяців тому +3

    Yup. I need this game. I've seen it at my LGS and I am going to buy a copy now. Thanks SUSD for causing yet another impulse board game purchase.

    • @helxis
      @helxis 11 місяців тому

      Get Lancashire first.

  • @ellismiles9109
    @ellismiles9109 11 місяців тому +4

    Love it! Great video

  • @paulcarter8057
    @paulcarter8057 11 місяців тому

    I think you'll find Can't Stop has the 'day/night' flipping board thingie

  • @kr8771
    @kr8771 9 місяців тому +1

    wonderful video. just had to rewatch it right away for the monopoly joke

  • @Hamfrags
    @Hamfrags 11 місяців тому +2

    Quinns getting so excited about Brass: Birmingham that his short turns into a medium-length.

  • @BramTanamal
    @BramTanamal 11 місяців тому

    Is this a new format you guys are testing? If it helps to get things done quicker, why not? Good work! But please don't neglect the higher production versions for "big games". I love your jokes and humor sprinkled inbetween. Keep up the good work! Cheers from Germany!

  • @metalapollo
    @metalapollo 11 місяців тому +1

    That monopoly line 😂😂

  • @Pinstripedood
    @Pinstripedood 11 місяців тому +1

    Thanks a lot, now I have to buy it

  • @MonkeyButlerLabs
    @MonkeyButlerLabs 11 місяців тому +3

    Thanks for the laugh!

  • @JacobWrestledGod
    @JacobWrestledGod 11 місяців тому +1

    Short form video are fantastic for introducing new comers of the hobby

    • @helxis
      @helxis 11 місяців тому

      Yes, but, Brass is not. :P

  • @Xammblu_Games
    @Xammblu_Games 11 місяців тому +1

    Well then. What the hell am I supposed to do with all these bags?

  • @iMann_iFail
    @iMann_iFail 6 місяців тому

    I bought this game, it never made to table and I sold it sealed.. sad times. I still haven’t played it yet.

  • @TheGeisslMeister
    @TheGeisslMeister 11 місяців тому +1

    Nice shirt, good music choice. 10/10

  • @DavidSupina
    @DavidSupina 11 місяців тому

    I am the one excited about simulating the Industrial Revolution, Quinn’s, and I demand you imagine me!

  • @daleprather3026
    @daleprather3026 11 місяців тому +3

    I love the theme and feel it when I play the game. It inspired me to read The Most Powerful Idea in the World which was about the people and innovations that fueled the industrial revolution. Dry but very interesting.

    • @HeinzMcDurgen
      @HeinzMcDurgen 11 місяців тому

      Watch a few episodes of Peaky Blinders and then throw this thing down.

  • @martind2520
    @martind2520 11 місяців тому +2

    The answer to the "why?" question at the end is simply: Because it was a stretch goal.

    • @helxis
      @helxis 11 місяців тому

      Which is really just "because crowdfunding", which is the same reason this game is #1 on BGG.

  • @Xarles111
    @Xarles111 10 місяців тому

    Everybody talking about the game and me just wondering where to get those poker chips

  • @que-tangclan5856
    @que-tangclan5856 11 місяців тому +1

    Hrmmmm. This video actually has me interested in brass birmingham

  • @jackkaiser3893
    @jackkaiser3893 11 місяців тому

    I really want to know where you can get those poker chips from. They look lovely!

    • @johnmitchell2727
      @johnmitchell2727 3 місяці тому

      I want to know where you got them too, they look great!

  • @pilkerss
    @pilkerss 10 місяців тому

    I thought I couldn't like SU&SD more and then they use a Master and Commander tune in their video..😍

  • @downward_facing_dad
    @downward_facing_dad 11 місяців тому

    FWIW, Caverna also has a flippabke daytime/nighttime player board.

  • @smeg4brainsukaya
    @smeg4brainsukaya 11 місяців тому +1

    Class video, love the game too. It's nice to see something else on the top for once tbh.

    • @helxis
      @helxis 11 місяців тому

      When you remove campaign hotness from the equation, it has been #1 for quite a while.

  • @shimry2304
    @shimry2304 11 місяців тому

    I absolutely love the theme

  • @judgemario
    @judgemario 11 місяців тому

    Caverna has a back side on all the boards that’s nighttime. Mezo’s main board kind of does this too.

    • @mikemudrow
      @mikemudrow 11 місяців тому +1

      I think Oak has this as well.

  • @2224446662
    @2224446662 11 місяців тому +1

    Those are beautiful poker chips. Anyone know where Quinns got them from? I might need to get a small set to spruce up any games that use money.

    • @worm1618
      @worm1618 11 місяців тому +3

      Roxley's iron clays

    • @helxis
      @helxis 11 місяців тому

      They come with the Deluxe editions of the game.

  • @viktorkm
    @viktorkm 11 місяців тому

    You guys should take a look at Age of Industry aswell! Its like the third brother of the lancashire and Birmingham siblings.
    Its enough different to deserve its own video to the highest rated gane in the world!

  • @drastickej
    @drastickej 11 місяців тому

    1:32 Actually if you build the coal mine and then the canal then you won't be able to sell the coal anyway because you need to be connected to the network when you build it in order to sell it. If you build it like this you can only use it for building factories and railroad basically with no profit unless by profit you mean flipping the coal mine tile.

  • @timlanigironu
    @timlanigironu 11 місяців тому +3

    "That's okay because you've still got uh, some, uh debt." Welcome to college in America.

    • @helxis
      @helxis 11 місяців тому

      Smart players in Brass only take on debt that they know will be used to make them even more money in the end. Now if only people used that level of consideration in real life...

  • @NukularPower
    @NukularPower 11 місяців тому

    When are you guys gonna review Fabula Ultima?? goddamn

  • @enlightened1ne
    @enlightened1ne 11 місяців тому

    “In a bag” as in doing the action while inside a large bag eg a sleeping bag, or doing the action into a bag in order to prevent spillage? Which is it, Quinns? The public needs to know.

  • @BlazblueFan
    @BlazblueFan 5 місяців тому

    I'm studying history at the unversity so I'm actually one of the people who get excited by the theme and how well it's connected to the game mechanics!

  • @JuliuszCovers
    @JuliuszCovers 11 місяців тому +3

    I'm not a fan of dry euros, so I've never been interested in playing Brass: Birmingham. After this video… I'm intrigued!

    • @helxis
      @helxis 11 місяців тому +1

      Start with Lancashire.

  • @cilgo2924
    @cilgo2924 11 місяців тому +1

    Woo short form content!

  • @rebell162
    @rebell162 11 місяців тому +1

    Also my beloved ❤ Best game ever

  • @guilandarcana
    @guilandarcana 11 місяців тому

    I can answer firsthand the why of the day-time night-time sides.
    Because it's COOL.

  • @Pxtl
    @Pxtl 11 місяців тому +1

    Mr Vice President, we've got to leave now. Dark Mode has escaped the software development world and has spread into boardgames.

  • @markpowell7395
    @markpowell7395 11 місяців тому

    Trickerion's board has a daytime side and a nighttime side 🙂

  • @NATOnova
    @NATOnova 11 місяців тому +2

    I never played the game but I understand the hype now after a simple 2 minute video

    • @helxis
      @helxis 11 місяців тому

      Good, just remember to play Lancashire first.

  • @AutumnReel4444
    @AutumnReel4444 10 місяців тому

    Shorts are violence against eye balls

  • @rafindeed
    @rafindeed 5 місяців тому

    Brass is my favorite game. Its a master piece of game design, simplicity, art and flavor. I just cant stop playing and more, i just cant find what to improve mechanics wise. Its brilliant and i will fight anyone that says otherwise

  • @Sputnik34
    @Sputnik34 11 місяців тому +2

    This made it so much clearer how the game plays instead of talking about how it works. I NEED this game now

    • @helxis
      @helxis 11 місяців тому +1

      Get Lancashire first.

  • @ioannispaxinos5171
    @ioannispaxinos5171 11 місяців тому +5

    Yes, Brass really is one of the best games of all time. The Birmingham version is quite good too.

    • @helxis
      @helxis 11 місяців тому +1

      Yes, but everyone should start with Lancashire.

    • @ioannispaxinos5171
      @ioannispaxinos5171 11 місяців тому +1

      @@helxis Well, for over 10 years it was the only version you could play. But even though Birmingham is a watered down version, I'm glad it made people really appreciate Martin Wallace's probably best design.

    • @Spearca
      @Spearca 10 місяців тому

      The new edition joint release created a bubble for Birmingham, and once it was ranked aboved Lancashire on BGG, that drove first-time players to it.

  • @Evoseven1
    @Evoseven1 11 місяців тому

    Can anyone say if it is fun to play with two players as well?

  • @bluegargantua
    @bluegargantua 11 місяців тому

    I mean…how nice is that bag?

  • @natelabine4308
    @natelabine4308 11 місяців тому

    Yea, this is it, experimental niche found. We’re back lads.
    Please dear Christ so this for every video old enough to feature Paul.

  • @JerreMuesli
    @JerreMuesli 11 місяців тому

    When NoPunIncluded did this video a month ago I was like sure sure I get what you mean. But this video nails it and on top of that, it's almost 150% shorter!

  • @Tolinar
    @Tolinar 11 місяців тому +1

    2:04
    .....
    That was a really inappropriate and effective analogy

  • @johnmichaelcule8423
    @johnmichaelcule8423 11 місяців тому

    You've just managed to convey in two and a bit minutes why I never want to play this game again. Well done.

  • @fernando47180
    @fernando47180 11 місяців тому +2

    just as a heads up, I see this as a normal video, and not a "shorts" video. It also doesn't show up under "shorts" in the channel. It could be intentional, but I would look into it if I were you.

    • @gfrung4
      @gfrung4 11 місяців тому +2

      I’m pretty sure shorts have a strict 60 second time limit, so this cannot be a short as it is over twice that long.

    • @fernando47180
      @fernando47180 11 місяців тому

      @@gfrung4 ah right, I forgot about that... why would you use this aspect ratio, though?

    • @helxis
      @helxis 11 місяців тому

      @@fernando47180 To trick people into thinking it is short.

  • @MEnUequals2
    @MEnUequals2 3 місяці тому

    What about Lancashire btw?

  • @craftymoustache
    @craftymoustache 11 місяців тому

    I assume this should have been a short? 👀 Still love it though! 😄

  • @whouston8
    @whouston8 11 місяців тому

    I think I felt physical pain when you flipped the board 😩

  • @bearhustler
    @bearhustler 11 місяців тому +1

    I hope anyone who watches this immediately goes back and watches the original review. Fantastic and hilarious and delightfully points out that when were moaning about the industrial revolution we should also think about how lucky we are things have changed 😂

  • @jerryf196
    @jerryf196 11 місяців тому

    Does it have a solo mode

  • @salopiansessions8326
    @salopiansessions8326 11 місяців тому

    Shrewsbury! 🎉❤

  • @GPlewright
    @GPlewright 10 місяців тому

    Was the reference to ‘There Will Be Blood’ intended?

  • @daleprather3026
    @daleprather3026 11 місяців тому

    I guess it depends on who's inside the bag.

  • @Fowlos09
    @Fowlos09 6 місяців тому

    hey i like the industrial revolution aesthetic

  • @RR-xf4nd
    @RR-xf4nd 11 місяців тому

    Why "of all time". Aren't there still times to come?

  • @frankharr9466
    @frankharr9466 11 місяців тому

    I don't know. 'Cause?

  • @66morningview
    @66morningview 11 місяців тому +1

    I liked this.
    I will still like big reviews.
    .... but also, I liked this

  • @disaidra
    @disaidra 11 місяців тому

    I may not be excited to simulate the industrial revolution but I am excited because Birmingham

  • @brianbouton3091
    @brianbouton3091 11 місяців тому +1

    Great video but only one note: Why isn't it called SUSD is getting exPEARimental?

  • @davinery1278
    @davinery1278 11 місяців тому +2

    This game looks so boring, but I really want to play it... Sadly my gaming group doesn't share this excitement with me

  • @thegamesninja3119
    @thegamesninja3119 11 місяців тому

    First in the first Playlist of games that get their own Playlist and a hoard of videos. 10 games, 100 videos. Next up, a video examining why Heat remains at the top of the BGG Hotness list. Is it the name?

    • @helxis
      @helxis 11 місяців тому

      Heat is a solid design with a lot of stuff packed in the box for a decent price. And then they created a false scarcity by not producing enough of the game so that people are doing anything to get a copy of it.

    • @thegamesninja3119
      @thegamesninja3119 11 місяців тому

      @helxis My post was mainly joking, commented with the name of Heat, but also mainly commenting the channel is now doing multiple videos on a single game. The Hotness list is worth a study. Other games are in a similar situation as Heat. There is Scout. Try to get a copy of that game. Maybe people get Dealt instead, which is similar.

  • @thisisarecording
    @thisisarecording 11 місяців тому +1

    filmed in a cellphone?

  • @annominous826
    @annominous826 11 місяців тому

    Caverna. The player boards flip between day and night. And the night side does not match any of the tiles you put out, so it's a bit pointless.

  • @besidethebishop
    @besidethebishop 11 місяців тому +1

    "I can imagine [someone who's excited to simulate the Industrial Revolution], I just don't want to"
    Why don't you want to imagine me, I'm lovely ; ~ ;

    • @andyh87able
      @andyh87able 10 місяців тому +1

      that's what I thought 🥲

  • @TheBokkel
    @TheBokkel 11 місяців тому

    It has a night side and a dark night side. Its the best game there is, so they can do this

  • @jonatanrullman
    @jonatanrullman 11 місяців тому

    Brass is one of my friends top three games in no small part because he is very interested in the industrial revolution. Imagine away.