LOL...oh my god, that ending. Cleary cut short right before Quinns burst out laughing! Well done, and on the review as well. I'm going to check this one out. I like the artists, a duo from Quebec that go by the code name Mr.Cuddington.
Because of you I got the game last year. And I agree to every point: The game is complex but so much fun! And yes, it is hard to teach and can be tiresome. As Matt said: the texture and quality of the artwork really elevate the game and create such a nice experience!
Love you guys and all the amazing SUSD content. I'm new to board games and these videos have really cemented this new passion in me. Question for Quinns @shutup&sitdown - how is it that the relatively small changes introduced to Birmingham were able to change your feelings about this game so dramatically? Is it not essentially the same game as original Brass with improved artwork and subtle mechanics changes? Keep up all the great content!
"Is it not essentially the same game as original Brass with improved artwork and subtle mechanics changes?" Basically it's those various small changes that have helped turn it from an absolute grind into something more enjoyable. As Matt explains, the simple facts that there's more resource types and some resources move differently than others and the board state changes each game means the inexorable crushing of the life out of north England doesn't have the same bottlenecks it used to where taking an action meant chiseling out some tiny, largely ceremonial busywork. With Birmingham, meaningful choices and planning are much more possible, and it makes for more fun and less time sitting around trying to decipher what token contribution you can give that will make the game end.
@@ExcludedLayman Hilariously one of the women featured actually brought her company from a man who had almost completely driven it into ruin and then continued to call himself the owner and in response she fired him.
To be honest, I don't get how can you hate Lancashire and love Birmingham. Yes, Birmingham is more open, but come on - these are very similar games, Birmingham feels like Lancashire with an expansion on top.
God I love you guys ! :D I always hoped for a Brass kinda game in the Dishonored ( which is a 19th century steampunk/magic/zombie kinda world) where you could organize worker revolt in other players whale oil factorys, make expansive partys with aristocrats to gain politic power and spread the plague on said partys or send assasins... well would be a totally different game
I'm thrilled by your videos. It would be cool to see how you make the videos and how many hours a week (day?) you play these games? Just curious. Totally Love you guys. And I love TableTop. I do believe you guys are tied....you for your reviews and them for seeing the game played.
Have Great Western Trail, and a Feast for Odin on my potential list of a heavier management game-- now adding this on will only make the decision harder! Thanks SUSD!
Almost thought BoyFetch wasn’t going to work in time. 20 minutes like a pizza...except it’s a chimney sweep. I’d like to see the game in action. Neither this nor the original review made these games sound more interesting than A Feast for Odin or Great Western Trail, and it can already be a challenge to find people to play those games.
If you are going to change the recommendation, you definitely need to address all the issues you had with the previous version, particularly when you start off by saying this game did not need even more fiddly rules. For those of us who like the original Brass, will these changes overload the game or make it less challenging?
I played Lacanshire via the app of the original and didn't like it. I thought I would never get Birmingham to the table but it turned out its pretty easy to learn. It might be my game of 2018!
The frustration and desperation looking for some action you can take sounds just like Through the Ages. Maybe the third edition will fix that broken trash.
The boxes will forever be understood to contain boys from this point forward. Like those little brown “settlers” you ship around in Puerto Rico, right? 😬
Just like yours, my morning side of the board is green because of forests, but there are videos where the morning side is white and beige... Is that a different reprint? My board feels dark af
I think you are exaggerating the differences between this and Lancashire. I love both games and I think Brass Lancashire can also give you very different games not just depending on who you play with, but each choice they make opens up new avenues and closes others. It's just the learning curve that's a bit steeper and it takes more than a few games get into the crux of it, but the rewards are worth the effort. I like intellectually challenging games such as Brass, Madeira, etc. and I find them extremely satisfying. I also think Brass Lancashire and Birmingham are just too similar to have such divergent opinions of them.
It's ok. Definitely has no repeated enjoyment level for me. A pure strat game for gamers. Nothing memorable happens, no laughs, and no general escalation of excitement or tone
Is it retail version of the game? So many times I saw this game with plastic poker chips instead of more familiar "money" as in your video. I wonder are there actually 2 editions of this game?
Is brass Lancashire re done any better, i was thinking about getting that one threw the kick starter just cos that's where i live, but out of the two new redos is brum really the better one?
I really like the original Brass - and stopped watching SU&SD for a long time after that review. The cake on the board... no. Just no. I only started to watch the show again a couple of weeks ago. I'm still waiting for my copy of Brass: Birmingham to arrive but after this glowing review I'll be interested to see what I make of it.
Birmingham is out of production, so the price is very expensive, but they release a new one, call it: Lancashire, is it still this good, or better? Because is a new version, so...
The looks and components... Yes... the gameplay... No... The rules Are very similar, but these games plays ands feels different. It is harder to say witch one is better. So people still like Brass Lancaster better, some think that this Birningham is the better one. I like the freedom and variety of this version more, much like these two child workforce abusers in here ;) and with the same reasons. But I can understand why some people think otherwice.
It's always funny how many boardgamers LARP anti-capitalism, but also enjoy a hobby that could LITERALLY not exist without capitalism at even remotely the scale they do.
I'm 1/3 of the way through this video, and I'm worried Quinns won't be falling in a canal this time.
2 out of 5 stars: No canal plunge
That's what the boy is for.
He doesn't 😟
He didn't, butI am not sure he's better off
I tried using the little code you guys gave me but they just sent over a policeman. I am disappointed.
And how would you rate the policeman's work?
-Dad so how children are made?
-Girls are made when mom and dad love eachother
-how about boys?
-BOXES
Whoah! That was a reverse mid-review turnaround!
The double sided board is a good idea if you've a tendency to drop cake on the playing surface rather than sticking it in your mouth.
You should never stick the playing surface in your mouth.
All you need to know about Brass: ua-cam.com/video/-vdPWxZPPkg/v-deo.html
Most game components have been in Quinns’ mouth
LOL...oh my god, that ending. Cleary cut short right before Quinns burst out laughing! Well done, and on the review as well. I'm going to check this one out. I like the artists, a duo from Quebec that go by the code name Mr.Cuddington.
Because of you I got the game last year. And I agree to every point: The game is complex but so much fun! And yes, it is hard to teach and can be tiresome. As Matt said: the texture and quality of the artwork really elevate the game and create such a nice experience!
"Oh good SU & SD will convince me that I don't really need to buy this game"...6 minutes into the video: "nooooooooooooo!!!! YOU TRICKED ME!"
Please do a shut up and sit down playthrough of this game :D
What he said
What they said
This is actually my favourite review you guys have ever done. It finally trumped your village review for me.
Boxes of boys! Ha!
The Boyfetch gag is possibly the funniest joke you lovely boys have ever written.
"Components [...] that allow you to see the important stuff first. BEER, then coal and iron..."
Love you guys and all the amazing SUSD content. I'm new to board games and these videos have really cemented this new passion in me.
Question for Quinns @shutup&sitdown - how is it that the relatively small changes introduced to Birmingham were able to change your feelings about this game so dramatically? Is it not essentially the same game as original Brass with improved artwork and subtle mechanics changes?
Keep up all the great content!
"Is it not essentially the same game as original Brass with improved artwork and subtle mechanics changes?"
Basically it's those various small changes that have helped turn it from an absolute grind into something more enjoyable. As Matt explains, the simple facts that there's more resource types and some resources move differently than others and the board state changes each game means the inexorable crushing of the life out of north England doesn't have the same bottlenecks it used to where taking an action meant chiseling out some tiny, largely ceremonial busywork.
With Birmingham, meaningful choices and planning are much more possible, and it makes for more fun and less time sitting around trying to decipher what token contribution you can give that will make the game end.
Talk about diversity... "When i just flip this token you can be a man or... a man with a hat" XD
Actually you can play a woman too, although as an industrial in that era, it would have been quite exceptional.
Exceptional indeed! Most times your husband's ineptitude and decadence would burn through his entire estate before the arsenic finished him.
@@ExcludedLayman Hilariously one of the women featured actually brought her company from a man who had almost completely driven it into ruin and then continued to call himself the owner and in response she fired him.
The desperation of the boy in the end got a bit too real :´(
“Beer is beautiful and complicated because it doesn’t work like coal or iron”
“Beer is unusual, fascinating, and funny”
I love board games
Eh, I think the boy might have begged enough, Give him four stars.
“…they’ll look at you with horror - and that’s why I play games!”
Beautiful.
To be honest, I don't get how can you hate Lancashire and love Birmingham. Yes, Birmingham is more open, but come on - these are very similar games, Birmingham feels like Lancashire with an expansion on top.
They do expand upon this more in a podcast.
I think it is explained at around 6:37 - 8:20...
My thoughts exactly. I didn't find the explanation convincing enough either.
@@da1otta And here I thought they explained it perfectly well to be honest
Is it just me, or does this send out major Frostpunk vibes, aesthetically?
God I love you guys ! :D
I always hoped for a Brass kinda game in the Dishonored ( which is a 19th century steampunk/magic/zombie kinda world) where you could organize worker revolt in other players whale oil factorys, make expansive partys with aristocrats to gain politic power and spread the plague on said partys or send assasins... well would be a totally different game
Brass: Dunwall would be a blast indeed
The first board game rewiev video I watched 3 times! Excellent work! Beautiful game. Nothing else to be said.
New camera for this episode? - the picture quality looks amazing and the lighting is so life like.
Could be new lightning too
Wow, what a twist! Like a M. Night Shiamalan twist. Love your show. Hugs from Brazil.
I'm thrilled by your videos. It would be cool to see how you make the videos and how many hours a week (day?) you play these games? Just curious. Totally Love you guys. And I love TableTop. I do believe you guys are tied....you for your reviews and them for seeing the game played.
Have Great Western Trail, and a Feast for Odin on my potential list of a heavier management game-- now adding this on will only make the decision harder! Thanks SUSD!
You earner my thumbs up with that box of chocolate reference😂 Great review
Last few video have been some of your best work! Keep it up!
Great content guys, super effective sense of humor. Cheers :)
Almost thought BoyFetch wasn’t going to work in time. 20 minutes like a pizza...except it’s a chimney sweep.
I’d like to see the game in action. Neither this nor the original review made these games sound more interesting than A Feast for Odin or Great Western Trail, and it can already be a challenge to find people to play those games.
"Are we the bad gu-" "Yes."
These levels of white male guilt are embarrassing but they did make it funny.
It was a joke, but I doubt they think "These levels of white male guilt are embarrassing." I don't. Not sure where you are coming from.
@@gmeaki02 Racist
That was so perfect.
Makes me think of Michael and webb
Can I have a link to that app please. Seems very useful.
Be careful. The app also sideloads a phonecall to 999.
B:B vs. Concordia? GO:
Concordia. And GWT, > B:Any
Why even the comparison, so different type of games.
greatings my susd boys! this game is big in my city in china right now
Not gonna lie, I watched this to understand how to pronounce the names of the locations
As a Salopian I'm very gland that you pronounced "Shrewsbury" properly!
I just love this channel!
Whoa that child has freakishly long arms!
and then 4 years later
And now it's the #1 game on BGG!
Excellent review and I couldn't agree more. I still really like original Brass but I have to admit Birmingham is the better game.
If you are going to change the recommendation, you definitely need to address all the issues you had with the previous version, particularly when you start off by saying this game did not need even more fiddly rules.
For those of us who like the original Brass, will these changes overload the game or make it less challenging?
I dont think they understand the challenge of 2007 Brass. That is what us so good about it.
The business card joke was gold!
I love it when the boys are positive about a game!
What a beauty of a game, I want to eat it
The horse joke was incredible!
I live in a place called the Black Country, it's near where it is on that game map.
I think the Boxes of Man. Goods is perfectly in keeping with the theme of this video.
That mirror.... I kept thinking something would happen! :P
Wow, this game doesn't look like my cup of tea, but it does look absolutely gorgeous..
I played Lacanshire via the app of the original and didn't like it. I thought I would never get Birmingham to the table but it turned out its pretty easy to learn. It might be my game of 2018!
I feel like I missed a job opportunity to pack away a game here...
The frustration and desperation looking for some action you can take sounds just like Through the Ages. Maybe the third edition will fix that broken trash.
The boxes will forever be understood to contain boys from this point forward.
Like those little brown “settlers” you ship around in Puerto Rico, right? 😬
Spectacular review. Thanks, guys!
Awesome review!! Definitely on my wishlist now.
Also, where did you get that steamer trunk...?
You guys should do "Guardians of Atlantis."
That's not the kind of service I'd expect from an app called "Boyfetch"
I like how nonchalantly you made the main gag of the video human trafficking
M- Men are more naturally inclined to sending children up chimneys... Are we the bad guys?
Q- *without hesitation* Yes.
Just like yours, my morning side of the board is green because of forests, but there are videos where the morning side is white and beige... Is that a different reprint? My board feels dark af
Please review Small World. Interested in what you guys make of it
Where I live it's 60% more expensive than Great Western Trail
So glad I ordered my copy before this review went out. Wont have to trample anyone for a copy now
The 24 ref ..m love it
I think you are exaggerating the differences between this and Lancashire. I love both games and I think Brass Lancashire can also give you very different games not just depending on who you play with, but each choice they make opens up new avenues and closes others. It's just the learning curve that's a bit steeper and it takes more than a few games get into the crux of it, but the rewards are worth the effort. I like intellectually challenging games such as Brass, Madeira, etc. and I find them extremely satisfying. I also think Brass Lancashire and Birmingham are just too similar to have such divergent opinions of them.
It's ok. Definitely has no repeated enjoyment level for me. A pure strat game for gamers. Nothing memorable happens, no laughs, and no general escalation of excitement or tone
Ok realise I'm very late to the party but do you get a good experience with two players
Yes absolutely
Great video, guys! It's my favorite game! Have a deluxe russian edition with gourgeous plastic poker chips :-)
I still can't get a copy of this in Australia. Driving me mad.
Local games shops in Adelaide have it, probably have another look.
Playing this for the first time tonight!
That ending was so depressing
Why? He upped it to a 3 star rating. He was very late, and the outro lacked passion.
What? No Roxley Clays? Where's the shameless materialism ... ? :D
bahhahha I literally cannot with Quinns' boy voice xD
03:49 😂😂😂😂
An extra like for the "24" reference.
Is it retail version of the game? So many times I saw this game with plastic poker chips instead of more familiar "money" as in your video. I wonder are there actually 2 editions of this game?
It is the retail version. Not the KS.
So the name of the game is Brass, and it has brass coloured cubes in it, but it's... iron? I'm confused.
Is brass Lancashire re done any better, i was thinking about getting that one threw the kick starter just cos that's where i live, but out of the two new redos is brum really the better one?
Did you guys review Brass Lancashire? Do you have a preference?
Yes, ua-cam.com/video/-k74ki2dBXo/v-deo.html - we preferred this one
I really like the original Brass - and stopped watching SU&SD for a long time after that review. The cake on the board... no. Just no. I only started to watch the show again a couple of weeks ago.
I'm still waiting for my copy of Brass: Birmingham to arrive but after this glowing review I'll be interested to see what I make of it.
As if Burnley was in a board game, thats grand
Birmingham is out of production, so the price is very expensive, but they release a new one, call it: Lancashire, is it still this good, or better? Because is a new version, so...
Lancashire is the original brass, with new art, not a new game
I see a Luvdisc
"Quinns... are we the baddies?"
Quinns is a 10/10 little boy.
I would imagine most of the improvements also apply to the new edition of the previous Brass. Is that true?
The looks and components... Yes... the gameplay... No... The rules Are very similar, but these games plays ands feels different. It is harder to say witch one is better. So people still like Brass Lancaster better, some think that this Birningham is the better one. I like the freedom and variety of this version more, much like these two child workforce abusers in here ;) and with the same reasons. But I can understand why some people think otherwice.
Me and my friends haven't started playing non mainstream board games before, so do you know any board games that are great for 2-6 players
www.shutupandsitdown.com/games-page/#susd-recommends
Great review
Watched it for a second time now, still funny
The game must be out of print because it is sssooo expensive !
Quinns, have you been dallying with the proles? That boy looks like he might be related...
10/10 love the outtro
Τhis game is carently unavailable on Amazon what should i do plz help me
roxley.com
Is it just me or does that small boy at the end look an awful lot like Quinns?
Brass is certainly not cheap...not anymore
It's always funny how many boardgamers LARP anti-capitalism, but also enjoy a hobby that could LITERALLY not exist without capitalism at even remotely the scale they do.
Awesome video.
I see you have a good taste in electric kettles
why don't you have a list of recommended games ?
We do! The page takes a while to load, but... www.shutupandsitdown.com/games-page/
thank you so much!! i gotta say, i'm impress how pretty is your page