Oh yes! Lim-5P! My grandpa worked in PLZ Mielec (Poland) where these planes were made. He always told me that Mig-17 still had a lot of room for upgrades. And if Soviets would let them apply these upgrades that plane could easily compete with 2gen jets!
I hope to see the MiG-17F the proper tech tree ver with afterburners, and subsequent versions. And pls bring in the lead indicator for all aircrafts that had em, both cockipit view and 3rd person.
MiG-17F, MiG-17PF, MiG-19S… all in another nations’ tech trees (while the soviet tree has only the very first and basic MiG-17 and a prototype MiG-19) War Thunder at its finest
Honestly the Mig-17 has to be one of my favorites, despite the video saying it's bad at turning it turns incredibly well if you know how to use your airbreak and utilize the large wings, you can go from an energy fight to a dogfight with ease and out turn most things aside from G-91's etc.
One small difference, the 15bis also differs from the regular 15 in the fact that it has hydraulically boosted controls, meaning it doesn't lock up as much (still a lot)
@@dogeness Migs in general just don't have that great of roll rate. At least compared to the Sabres and G.91s. I think that's the leading slats that give NATO aircraft the better roll rates.
@@shakenbakejake25 The only plane out of the ones you mentioned that have leading edge slats are the F-86A, F-86F-40, CL-13B Mk.6, G.91Y, and YS. All the rest of the Sabres and G.91s don’t have it. Leading edge slats just lower your stall speed and decrease turn radius. They don’t do anything for roll rate.
@@sule.A well in the instance that slats are deployed asymmetrically then roll rate would be increased away from the deployed side and decreased towards it, sure. But that’s only compared to baseline. The whole reason the slats are being deployed in the first place is because that wing is losing lift so there may not even be a change to roll rate in the first place, if that makes any sense.
I have it and believe me you dont want it, its in a horrible match up at 9.0 it loses to its downtiers Even the yak 38 is a better choice. you face the g91r4, mainstay grinder of 2 tech trees and its 8.7 The 15ish is even worse
Getting a 1km+ kill on a faster jet trying to run away in a straight line , with the 37 mm cannon, is one of the most satisfying things you can do with these planes
The MiG-15 has (along with other swept winged MiGs) incredible MER and turn rate, but lackluster roll. It is extremely dominant in a rate fight, but suffers quite a bit in a radius fight (e.g. a rolling scissor), as many of its opponents roll considerably better (e.g. an F-86 Sabre).
The MiG-19S absolutely wrecks everything at its BR in air RB. It has the classic party piece of being able to just go up and the extra cannon makes it all the more deadly.
Really nice video of the early MiG fighters! I hope to see one on the early Sukhoi Su-7/9/11 variants as I really like the Soviet fighters with nose intakes.
Only played the MiG-9 in the Chinese tech tree so far, but I'm currently still researching the J-2 (MiG-15bis) and I'm very much looking forward to it.
It's quite cancerous sorry to tell you, most games you have to fight people that just run all game and spam missiles. There's almost nothing you can do about it especially the all aspects ;/
@@jaiiii116 That's basically all of high-tier now, I know. I've been spading the G.91Y, and that's at 9.3, even worse. Still, should be at least a little fun, and not a guaranteed up-tier.
MiG 19 is always gonna be my favorite, I just love it so much the design is perfect, and it is a very solid dogfighter in game, so I would have to say it's my fav :)
Q: Hey gaijin, in the near future could you, or will you add the F-94 starfire to WT? It was the first american production jet that had a afterburner, that's a pretty nice piece of history right there. Would love to see it in Warthunder, preferably N O T as a event vehicle.
Chuck 'Ego' Yeagar proved that the Mig15 could not break mach...He, and another pilot were supposed to test a defected Mig15 , but instead, did all but fly it into the ground trying to break the sound barrier the way the Sabre could.
how doyou set the mig to drop 1 bomb at a time? plus, will you guys make a video about key binding for jest from higher BRs? seems a bit overwhlemning to get a grip on all the functions
the mig 21 is an interceptor designed to scaramble quickly to protect bridges and supply routes while the Sabre is an air superiority fighter built to escort and protect bombers, a great pair of planes but the 10 to 1 USAF claim is knida overblown
My choice is hands down mig-19, as it is energy god. You can loop around enemies or ratefight anybody in your br range. And if you pick A-5 or Q-5 you get buff mig-19 with flares. This airframe is basically a recipe for fun, kill-rich- evening.
The wonderful thing about them, they are versions without afterburners ... I mean at first I thought this was an afterthought. Shouldnt have there been 3x30 mm also ?
@@purgetrapscorp No, Bf 109 and Spitfire have differently shaped wings, fuselage and engine cover. Meanwhile Sabre and MiG-15 have very similar shapes, the main differences are wings mounting and tail configurations.
WAR THUNDER PLEASE FIX THE PROBLEM! When I’m in a dog fight and my pilot get knocked out makes my tail gunner completely inoperable, that’s not realistic at all please fix!
@warthunderI hope war thunder have more cooler update example Artillery feature that we can use with artillery vehicle like 2s3m from long range just like in world of tanks did
I'd like to ask the difference in the MIG-21PFM and generic MIG-21. It has less Air to air but is the same speed if not slower sometimes. Only difference I found has been the BR at 9.3 VS the 9.7+ and the less Air to Air.
@Kaiser Von if it is indeed the same plane, which my research has shown me isn't (its supposedly made to be faster and more menuverable.) I'm just more questioning the Br placement due to constant uptiers it doesn't feel like a 9.3 Jet
Hey War Thunder, it's past time we have an option to allow if we want uptiered battles or not, just like we decide wether join ongoing battles or not.. work on that.
Oh yes! Lim-5P! My grandpa worked in PLZ Mielec (Poland) where these planes were made. He always told me that Mig-17 still had a lot of room for upgrades. And if Soviets would let them apply these upgrades that plane could easily compete with 2gen jets!
Wow very cool!
seems the chinese did exactly that.
Mój dziadek tak samo, pozdrawiam ;)
Mój dziadek też pracował w wsk PZL Mielec przy limkach
Same here. He has flown 21s in Mielec too. Honestly migs were the best fighters of their time
Do a follow up to this video. You could call it “Modern MiGs” and go from the MiG-21 all the way to the recently added MiG-29.
Thats such an awesome idea.
I hope to see the MiG-17F the proper tech tree ver with afterburners, and subsequent versions.
And pls bring in the lead indicator for all aircrafts that had em, both cockipit view and 3rd person.
MiG-17F, MiG-17PF, MiG-19S… all in another nations’ tech trees (while the soviet tree has only the very first and basic MiG-17 and a prototype MiG-19)
War Thunder at its finest
In steam post they mentioned bringing the lead indicator back
@@rokasb9441 yea, and now I want it more since its confirmed. Don't wanna wait another 2 years
@@IllustriousUnknown416 and people still say Russian bias..
@@IllustriousUnknown416 I was too wondering where is the afterburner on MiG-17 and ... nothing. In their universe, export version, the best version.
Would love to see the MiG-17 and 19 variants that carried the K-5 beamriding missiles.
Honestly the Mig-17 has to be one of my favorites, despite the video saying it's bad at turning it turns incredibly well if you know how to use your airbreak and utilize the large wings, you can go from an energy fight to a dogfight with ease and out turn most things aside from G-91's etc.
One small difference, the 15bis also differs from the regular 15 in the fact that it has hydraulically boosted controls, meaning it doesn't lock up as much (still a lot)
Is that only for the elevators? Bc the high speed roll rate of the bis is still atrocious
@@dogeness Migs in general just don't have that great of roll rate. At least compared to the Sabres and G.91s. I think that's the leading slats that give NATO aircraft the better roll rates.
@@shakenbakejake25 The only plane out of the ones you mentioned that have leading edge slats are the F-86A, F-86F-40, CL-13B Mk.6, G.91Y, and YS. All the rest of the Sabres and G.91s don’t have it. Leading edge slats just lower your stall speed and decrease turn radius. They don’t do anything for roll rate.
@@dogenesswhat about the 109 slats that deploy assymetrically when you turn and roll?
@@sule.A well in the instance that slats are deployed asymmetrically then roll rate would be increased away from the deployed side and decreased towards it, sure. But that’s only compared to baseline. The whole reason the slats are being deployed in the first place is because that wing is losing lift so there may not even be a change to roll rate in the first place, if that makes any sense.
It would be perfect if you guys made either the Mig 17 AS or the mig 15 bis ISH purchasable considering you just made this video!
That’s what I’m saying
Wait you can't buy Mig-17AC ?
Uh mig17as is out of sale?
I really want mig 17 AS because mig 17 is my favourite and having a cool Camo and missiles is nice
I have it and believe me you dont want it, its in a horrible match up at 9.0 it loses to its downtiers
Even the yak 38 is a better choice. you face the g91r4, mainstay grinder of 2 tech trees and its 8.7
The 15ish is even worse
In the next video, could you tell us some stories about the captured tanks and aircraft in the game? I'd love to watch it in your video!
Its really great to have the mig15 against bombers when you can easily get the be when you getting missiled from 4km.
Bruh we need that intro as a Hangar, need more people walking arround in them for scale and stuff
the MiGs are beautiful, especially the MiG-29🙏
Especially the Mig21
@@markusplotz2259 Fishbed is hot but the Fulcrum is hotter
@@MiG29Enjoyer all mig is hot
@@markusplotz2259 i really love the MiG-31
@@MiG29Enjoyer Foxbat is hottest
can't wait to get full up-tiered in all of these!
YES ALL ASPECT AGAINST MIG 15/17 WHEN THOSE PLANES WERE AROUND BEFORE MISSILES WERE INVENTED.
Awesome! Really enjoyed this! o7
Will we be seeing the su/ISU family in an episode any time soon, they are some of my favorite vehicles to play, simply magnificent
Q: hey gaijin can you tell me if the German 75mm planes where effective and where they used thanks❤️
The german MiG 15 Bis is very difficult to play but oh boy when you being to learn it's strengths it's so rewarding to fly.
We need the old guy back
Getting a 1km+ kill on a faster jet trying to run away in a straight line , with the 37 mm cannon, is one of the most satisfying things you can do with these planes
Such awesome timing warthunder. Im just about to start using these.
The MiG-15 has (along with other swept winged MiGs) incredible MER and turn rate, but lackluster roll. It is extremely dominant in a rate fight, but suffers quite a bit in a radius fight (e.g. a rolling scissor), as many of its opponents roll considerably better (e.g. an F-86 Sabre).
The MiG-19S absolutely wrecks everything at its BR in air RB. It has the classic party piece of being able to just go up and the extra cannon makes it all the more deadly.
In this short film MiGs scored more kills than in real world!
yep lmfao
Do one on the later migs as well like the 21 and the 23!
I can see that Czech easter egg in the thumbnail
Really nice video of the early MiG fighters! I hope to see one on the early Sukhoi Su-7/9/11 variants as I really like the Soviet fighters with nose intakes.
Cant wait to play it against fair and balanced 9.3 F104
What can be honest in the Russian patriotic game?
Only played the MiG-9 in the Chinese tech tree so far, but I'm currently still researching the J-2 (MiG-15bis) and I'm very much looking forward to it.
It's quite cancerous sorry to tell you, most games you have to fight people that just run all game and spam missiles. There's almost nothing you can do about it especially the all aspects ;/
@@jaiiii116 That's basically all of high-tier now, I know. I've been spading the G.91Y, and that's at 9.3, even worse.
Still, should be at least a little fun, and not a guaranteed up-tier.
I wouldn't mind so much having my beloved Mig-15bis go against Sabres. I'm more concerned about the AV-8s and A-10s...
MiG 19 is always gonna be my favorite, I just love it so much the design is perfect, and it is a very solid dogfighter in game, so I would have to say it's my fav :)
I LOVE ALL OF THE MIGs
Q: Hey gaijin, in the near future could you, or will you add the F-94 starfire to WT? It was the first american production jet that had a afterburner, that's a pretty nice piece of history right there.
Would love to see it in Warthunder, preferably N O T as a event vehicle.
Great idea
Where Is the Dev blog?
The teaser is coming this week or the next one
@@lior_theboom This Is why i asked for the Dev blog and not for the teaser
i'd love to play them, *if only i did not have to spend 1000 hours on the game to unlock them*
Really excited! Love the constant state of improvements you guys do! This game is going strong! Keep it up 👍
Epic video
Q: Will wing vapor effects be added to jets? Many people want this so please add it, because i feel like you dont read all the comments anymore.
Chuck 'Ego' Yeagar proved that the Mig15 could not break mach...He, and another pilot were supposed to test a defected Mig15 , but instead, did all but fly it into the ground trying to break the sound barrier the way the Sabre could.
i love the shape of the migs airframe
how doyou set the mig to drop 1 bomb at a time? plus, will you guys make a video about key binding for jest from higher BRs? seems a bit overwhlemning to get a grip on all the functions
Is f111b coming???
I really like the Mig-17
Can’t wait for the Saber version of this!
Bro, there probalby is and in game we have like 4 sabers?
@@strikingeagle9855 he's probably been living under a rock
@@r3dst0rm308 probalby yea
the mig 21 is an interceptor designed to scaramble quickly to protect bridges and supply routes while the Sabre is an air superiority fighter built to escort and protect bombers, a great pair of planes but the 10 to 1 USAF claim is knida overblown
What if i meet 2.3br higher enemies 99% of the time? With all kinds of fancy missiles while i got no flares?
That's just accurate lol
Had to fit that premium in
Been using the mig 15bis on the german tree for a while now, and i must say. That baby is a pleasure to fly
2:59 music tittle, name???
getting the mig 21bis lazur m was a good idea
Are you able to make a video about the Magach or Merkava
variants? It could be interesting
So cool to see these migs
MiGs going supersonic.
They will change the title, I'm calling it now.
What's wrong?
So, what about the all aspect missiles this thing faces because of BR compression and horrible up-tiers? I mean, you can see Sabre's facing AIM-9L's
hey, im just wondering what happend to the old announcer/voiceover guy? its been a while since ive heard him, did he quit?
Please make video on mig 21 as well
MiG-21MF ? MiG-17, 19 wit hafterburners ?
Hey Warthunder, do a Tutorial for CDK
What’s the fastest way to see the Apache helicopter?
When is war thunder edge released? I want to play it
what if i meet all aspect? 1:10
Does the mig 29 come to the german tree in premium or in the normal one
I'm pretty sure it's going to be tech tree
@@mapletreepower7038 ok
My choice is hands down mig-19, as it is energy god. You can loop around enemies or ratefight anybody in your br range. And if you pick A-5 or Q-5 you get buff mig-19 with flares. This airframe is basically a recipe for fun, kill-rich- evening.
The wonderful thing about them, they are versions without afterburners ... I mean at first I thought this was an afterthought. Shouldnt have there been 3x30 mm also ?
@@cdgncgn german one has 3x30mm
I'm expecting war thunder sfm's very soon 🤣
Ah yes real infantry in warthunder
i feel like the MiG-15 and MiG-17 are EXACTLY the same🤣🤣
“the mig 19 is one of the fastest aircraft at its br”
the F104A/C at the same br: 🗿
Please lower the premium prices
Why was the missle on the german mig19s removed?
It didn’t have the avionics required to use them
Q: hey war thunder have you ever considered adding the CAC-15 kangaroo to game
MIGgers
And what about Mirage 2000 ?
MiG-17AS is my favorite MiG
Guys, I think we should stick to vertical manoeuvres.
Need too make a Korea event mig 15 vs f86 that would be sweet
Why did the MiG-15 and Sabre-86 look so similar?
They were both based on German jets designs.
They do not, tf?
@@purgetrapscorp yes, they do objectively look similar
@Patryk 923 Sure, and the Spitfire and the Bf109 are look alikes.
@@purgetrapscorp No, Bf 109 and Spitfire have differently shaped wings, fuselage and engine cover. Meanwhile Sabre and MiG-15 have very similar shapes, the main differences are wings mounting and tail configurations.
WAR THUNDER PLEASE FIX THE PROBLEM! When I’m in a dog fight and my pilot get knocked out makes my tail gunner completely inoperable, that’s not realistic at all please fix!
The soviet tree does NOT contain the cuban mig anymore
When are you able change your xbox account to pc again?
Next episode about F-86 planes plz
Q: Hi gaijin ! Can you tell us more about adding French vehicle like the VBCI or the AUF1 thanks
My great grandad had flown mig 21s in PZL and I always thought the Lim line of aircraft was polish. Not german
Mig 15, outright.
Where is DEV?????
Das ist eine erbeutete und nachgebaute deutsche Maschine.
No dev? No Teaser?
its tomorrow
@@NumberGravy I doubt we will get a teaser so soon, perhaps next week. It *is* wierd that we didn't get a devblog yet today.
Well if you're playing this don't dogfight just do a boom and zoom
still Mig-15bis is the best, i love that plane
@warthunderI hope war thunder have more cooler update example
Artillery feature that we can use with artillery vehicle like 2s3m from long range just like in world of tanks did
great video but when wil yall add yugoslavia
mig vs british planes there is a huge difference in power
My favourite mig in war thunder is a destroyed one.
mig are good looking
Hey war thunder u made my GPU crash 😀😁 very nice of u
What map is this ??
I'd like to ask the difference in the MIG-21PFM and generic MIG-21. It has less Air to air but is the same speed if not slower sometimes. Only difference I found has been the BR at 9.3 VS the 9.7+ and the less Air to Air.
@Kaiser Von I compared it with a friend who has a premium 9.7 Mig21 and the speed is no difference and both have a 23mm...
@Kaiser Von The premium Mig-21S13 and tech tree Mig-21F13
Both of which are about 9.7 to 10.0 which is a regular game for the PFM, rarely getting into a 9.3 battle and rather just goes to 10.3
@Kaiser Von if it is indeed the same plane, which my research has shown me isn't (its supposedly made to be faster and more menuverable.) I'm just more questioning the Br placement due to constant uptiers it doesn't feel like a 9.3 Jet
can’t be the only one who read “mfs going super sonic”💀
Hey War Thunder, it's past time we have an option to allow if we want uptiered battles or not, just like we decide wether join ongoing battles or not.. work on that.
Too bad all of these beautiful machines are locked behind a MASSIVE grind. Except the premiums of course.
MiGgers aren't supposed to go supersonic!
"MiG-9 was a decent aircraft" lmao
You guys always forget the a5c