Speediance Gym Monster 2024 UPDATE - Before You Buy
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- Опубліковано 22 тра 2024
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A 3 month update on on my thoughts, concerns, and things to consider with the best selling smart home gym.
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0:00 - Intro
1:57 - Do I still use it?
2:58 - Concerns
6:45 - Wrap up
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I love my Speediance!
Hi Mike thanks a lot as always for your well thought balanced and candid explanation. I find it really helpful that you keep on with regular updates on what you have reviewed. This is very serious and credible. About Speediance let’s try to invert to concept:
Given than safety is an issue either i am a heavy weight and i can fix it (with a big margin of safety) or i am an average lifter and i can fix it (within a big margin of safety):
what are you left with
- 2500$
- no fixed mounting
- no assembly (!!!!!!!!!)
- you can move it
- versatility is huge (as you correctly say)
- no recurring fees
- unique features such as eccentric only
- people showing you the technique of everything
- you can set your resistance as stated below (very wise) to a pre exaustion mode
- the key issue is the bench press. use another way i think we all have an alternative to
i think to sum it up (apologies for length) that the opportunity cost is go and buy. To replicate all of that + the acceleration in the learning curve you might have to spend 3x. Which we do anyway but in quality synergetic safe stuff. Thanks a million sorry the length
Great comment, I pretty much agree with that.
Well said
Hi Mike, I recently bought a Speediance Gym Monster and so far customer service has been good. My emails have been answered quickly post purchase.
That's excellent to hear! Thanks for sharing that.
Same here. They have answered my emails within 24 hours. Haven’t had any issues with them. I recommend. 💪
A very cool looking machine and a great idea! I think it needs to be tweaked and toughened up a bit more in order to fix the issues you've pointed out, Mike.
I figure they could make some attachable safety bars one day.
Thank you for this review Mike. I was debating between this and the oxefit. I hope oxefit send you their machine and you can review 😊
Thank you. That thing is a beast and does look cool.
Another good review yet that's why we love our total gym.
Definetly, Lou. There's just some weak points in the TG that I hope can be addressed with a new sliding bench.
@@hybridresistance Another video idea "TG Weak Points".
I put my gym monster inside my squat rack. Did not want to pay for the barbell hooks that should be included. But it works really good in the squat rack so now I can use the safety arms.
Simple and genius. Excellent comment. I'm going to have to do this.
I agree that the "ring" control over weight selection may be an issue for the exercises that you highlighted. If this is truly advanced technology, the user must be able to voice activate a reduction of weight resistance "immediately". With AI technology that feature is a simple add on. There are numerous "smart" tech items available that are voice activated and are not relying on a tiny battery or bluetooth connection. All smart tech items in our home are plugged in to an AC outlet. No failures. I always remove my ring prior to a workout, I do not want to wear theirs.
I suggest using your Maxpro for lifts where safety is a concern. The lack of eccentric resistance, a disadvantage for building strength (how much is controversial), is an advantage in safety and is why I bought a Maxpro versus Spediance (plus no electricity nor internet needed).
Sounds like a competitor talking crap about the customer serivce, it's the best I have experienced. There is a full community group with thousands of customers + staff helping, and the brand itself responds to even small questions I have had.
Good to hear
I’ve had mine since January and customer service has been great. There are actually real people who help handle normal customer service, software issues. Members of the Facebook group in particular have real people who provide prompt, personalized service.
Hi! Have you seen their other product the Gym Pal? I bought the gym monster and really like it but I’m considering returning for the gym pal. It is not as versatile since the cables only come from the floor but it’s only 55lbs with the same 220lbs max. I move fairly often for work so taking the gym monster on each move would be a hassle. Would love to hear your opinion on if you think only weight coming from the floor similar to vitrutian is enough for great workouts
It's definitely a personal call based on your needs. I think the floor based models are for sure great tools, I just don't like the wide spacing for certain exercises. I also just love having the tower on the GYM Monster.
Any one place an order recently? how Long does shipping take? placed an order and waiting to hear from them!
With all of these smart gyms I always want to know.
If I do not pay for the subscription and if I never connect it to the internet what can the device do.
For how much these things cost I want to know what I can do with the equipment if the company goes out of business or decides they don't want to support the device any more.
You'd be out of luck for sure. But I don't think these guys are going away anytime soon.
With this machine you don't need a membership. That's tonal. This machine allows you to create your own workout plan and everything. The membership is really for the classes.
Mike, great video. I have a Speediance and share a lot of the same concerns you have.
That said, the benefits of this device outweigh the cons for me. I'm an average lifter and use this to stay active and toned looking a long with a treadmill. I replicate a lot of the same movements I did at the gym, which is speaks to how flexible the device can be.
My wife also uses it and enjoys the follow along workouts.
My workout area is a corner of my basement, so the small footprint is key.
The customer service is an issue though. You cant speak to anyone directly and all interactions are via email. The company is responsive and helpful though but takes 12 hours on the top end to respond.
Buying from their website directly kinda sucks. They take forever to ship and you have hound their customer service reps for tracking information as the site has a delay in providing thay info.
That all said, I share your concerns about longevity. That's my key concern but the small footprint, price compared to Tonal and the fact i dint have to bolt it into the wall, sold me on it.
Dang you kinda scared me about ordering from their site. I wanted to order the one with the 32" screen but I can't find it anywhere else other than their site
@@dirtydmackIf I had to do it over, I'd probably order off of Amazon as they have the units I'm stock with delivery dates. I got the unit when all is said and done, for what it's worth.
i've never used a smart gym type device like tonal or speediance, how smooth does the resistance feel compared to a cable machine with a weight stack?
It's smooth, but with a tad more friction/resistance to it. A cable/pulley feels a little slicker or smoother I'd say.
My main concern is with the weight tension glitching and maxing out mid bench, squat, or overhead press as this could cause major injuries. What type of safety measures are in place to ensure this doesn't happen?
They do have some spotter modes options, but I'm with you on the concern about a machine in control of these things.
Hi Sliding Bench, this is going be the wave of the future interactive fitness equipment that can tell your weight a whole-body assessment. With AI you can get a greater evaluation of training that can be more intuitive helping you with motivation and nutritional guide and can show different health evaluations even help you with assisted training for force reps or as a spotter for consistent work outs and without the fear of getting hurt. All these machines are just a prelude to what's happening in the fitness and health industry. It's a billion-dollar industry and it shows that there's so much to innovate in terms of what you have and what's coming. This is only the beginning of something we can all invest in.
100%, it's going to be crazy what the future holds considering what this can do so early in the game of these machines. Don't get me wrong though, I don't like relying on technology and think they'll always be a place for old school iron.
@@hybridresistance I even think there will be some technology built into iron products so they would be some interactive things that they could put into like a squat rack or leg machine and things like that that can assist you with your lifts...
One of my main concerns is the 220lbs. I keep hearing that digital 220lbs is way different but is it enough? I bench over 300 right now so just wondering if this or the vitruvian is a better option. I like the versatility of this machine more and the price but not sure on the resistance being enough? Can you expand?
I think it depends on what you plan on using it for. If this is your stand alone system and you have no plans on getting weights, then maybe not. Basically there's of course some short comings with the weight, but it depends on what your goals are. For me, I have access to heavy options in bench, squat, and deadlift that if I want to go heavy, I still can.
Doesn't the resistance on heavy lifts pull the machine? Like say on some rowing movements if you are standing a bit far back.
It probably would, but I'd generally be standing on the platform. The other day I was doing cable rotations and was off the platform and was surprised how it was still sturdy. That was probably around 40lbs.
Will you recommend that instead of the Vitruvian pro? Thanks
I haven't tried the Vitruvian, so I can't fully comment. I love that it has a hight weight limit for sure, but I don't like that there's no tower option. So I'd say it really depends on which feature means more to you.
Also I saw someone brench press and tilt the bar to the side as if they were dropping weights off the bar and that turned the resistance off
That's good to know.
Is there an audible warning and/or screen warning when that Bluetooth ring is low on charge? Either way, they really need to add voice commands to turn the weight on and off.
I believe there is an on screen warning when your battery is low, and the led changes color.
The battery lasted a month before I got to that point and I haven't had it for two months yet so I've only seen it the one time, but I'm 90% sure there's an on screen warning.
For me, I usually notice it when it blinks red on the ring. I with there was a % reading for that on screen.
@@hybridresistance Yeah. The 10% doubt I have is that I might be thinking of the on screen alerts for the ring being connected/disconnected and misremembering there also being a low battery warning, when it's only just the red LED.
I should know any day now, coming up at the end of my second month.
Recommendation of this or the Total Gym Fit w/ additional weights/bands?
Depends a bit on your personal preference, but best answer is this alongside with a used total gym. You can basically find some very good condition total gyms for dirt cheap.
total gym is better than anything else in my opinion
what about the assist modes? that pretty much takes the risk out the ring not working imo . i have had it now for three months and overall, I love it no issues. I train on it 4 days a week for an hour at a time on average. But I have limited space so that's why I got it. I have heard bad things about the customer service. And I do worry long term how long of a life span it will have. But I am not on a limited budget so if I get five years or out of it I will be ok with that. But what I have also seen is folks that have had issues, it's really easy to repair yourself and replacement parts were sent within a reasonable time frame.
I should have mentioned the assist modes, because you’re right, those are definitely there. My only problem personally with those is that they will turn on when I do not want them to. And even with those I am still relying on a computer to catch on if something were to happen, like a sudden fluke with the bar slipping out of my hand. All this to say some sort of physical safety bars would be nice.
@SlidingBenchTrainer good points. but you would have the same issue with a real barbell. I find assist 2 works pretty well. I had the ring fall off my finger and did not have assist mode on . I would like to see them have real smart handles and barbells like when it first released. The ring has its perks but I would rather not workout with it myself. I heard they were working on new smart handles . Will see.
I don't know how these machines produce the resistance force, but I would think that the software could, for example for a bench press, turn off the force when you get some distance from your chest. For example, you position the bar 0.5 inch from your chest, turn on the force and as long as you stay more than 0.5 inches from your chest the force will stay on, but in failure mode, once the bar gets less than 0.5 inch from your chest the force is automatically removed. Much like a resistance band that has very little tension at the start so you can't really hurt yourself if you fail with the bar on your chest. As a 63 yo, I am rethinking the safety issues.
The sole servo has that feature
There are a couple of spotter modes, but the only problem with those is they turn on when I don't want them to.
I thought this machine detected if you were starting to struggle and would reduce the weight on its own? Does it not do that - was the sole reason I was gonna buy it for my dad
It does have a couple "spotter modes" but I just find they turn on when I don't want them to. If I'm going to "failure" it might turn on or lighten up the weight when I'm still working through it.
I saw a video where someone showed how you can turn off the feature where you feel resistant on the way down when lifting. You do that and that'll eliminate the fear of the bar smacking you on the nipples lol
There are a couple of "spotter" modes they just turn on prematurely for going to failure.
This is a video full of a lot of things that haven’t happened but possible could, you could say that about any product.
Not necessarily, many of my concerns are unique to this machine or type of machine. Most machines have a physical back up system in place to prevent either user or mechanical error. There have been other reviews that have talked about shared these possible safety risks, especially using ring. I've had my own close calls (albeit not fatal), with turning on / off weight. With all that said, I love my Gym Monster, these are just things that people should consider to make sure they consider with an electronic gym. It would be in my best interest (being an affiliate with them) to just say positive things about the machine.
There is a safety mechanism Mike. It's called 2 chairs on either side. Maybe build some bar extensions. But I hear you, at least with a barbell bench you can roll the bar down to your hips and sit up, or dump one side (no collars). That thing literally traps you! I wonder how long it will be until the company gets a Wrongful Death lawsuit in the mail. But could you imagine a machine like this at a place like Planet Fitness? Disaster waiting to happen my friend! :)
haha, you had me laughing on this one. Yeah, it's going to be a LONG time till we see an electronic squat bar at the gym until all those potential hazards are fleshed out. Great points all around.
I was doing bench press and accidentally hit the ring and that shit almost crushed my chest
Thanks the thing that kinda freaks me out with the ring.
Here's a thought. Why can't they have individual handles attached to each cable instead of a bar? That way if the ring fails you just let go of the handles. Problem solved!
Good point. You can always hit the button release on the attachment point in case of emergency. It's just a good mental stress reliever to have something physical in place so that "emergency evacuation" protocols are not floating around your head mid set.
This thing only goes up to 220 pounds?
Yea, it's definitely a downside for the bigger multipoint exercises.
Although I'm curious about these smart devices...I still prefer and rely on my good old iron plates on my (new) leverage gym, resistance bands and obviously my Total Gym GTS.
That's a solid set up right there.
The Ring sucks and is definitely a safety concern. They need to go back to smart handles and a Bluetooth attachment to place on the barbell. Speediance also needs a US based office so customers can speak directly to a human and not send emails about their concerns or issues and warranty claims. Also when the Gym monster breaks down people have to wait weeks to months for new parts to be sent to them from China and Speediance relies on the customer to fix the Gym monster themselves with the new part and there’s a lot of people that aren’t mechanically inclined to be able to. Lastly in my opinion and others I don’t feel that Speediance or any other resistance machine or bands will produce actual strength, the machines and bands will definitely pump up the users muscles but I don’t feel it’s a true strength builder like free weights.
I definitely hear you on the first part, but I would disagree on the last part about the speediance weight being different than actual free weights or that they couldn't build muscle. Their basic resistance is no different than actual weight. Now of course if you'e looking for more weight, that's another story. Thank you for that comment!
No thanks, I’ll stick to resistance band bar training.
No proper lat pulldown sucks
A client once told me that she wished they made a "motivation pill". Most people want a machine that does the workout for them.
I hear that, aherhance is key. Wouldn't be surprised if that isn't in the works. I think more than half of the "smart watche" sales are from this.
@@hybridresistance Although I ignore my smart watch when it says that I have been sitting too long or not enough steps. My motivation "pill" is my wife saying "get off your fat *ss and exercise".
Performing an exercise to the point of exhaustion looks dangerous, and neither that finger doodad nor the old bar control should be entrusted with your safety and well-being. I would stick with 3 sets of 8 repetitions at a manageable weight.
You can always add cable extenders. I use them both with bench press and squat even though I'm not going to failure.
And of course there are also the built in spotter modes. It probabaly kicks in too fast for people wanting to go to failure, but it is a good safety feature.
I completed their Thanksgiving Challenge which was supposed to get me a squat belt prize, that was in November. I still haven't received it. When I posted a question about the status in the Speediance community, they removed my post. I no longer trust this company.