Why TF2's Default Settings Suck
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- Опубліковано 18 жов 2024
- A year ago, I made a video about Team Fortress 2's default settings and why they are so detrimental to the game's lifespan. That video sparked quite a discussion and enabled the growth of my channel, but the video is not without its flaws. In this follow-up, I'll be doing a more in-depth analysis of the game's default settings and showing why exactly they are so much of an issue.
Settings Discussed:
fov_desired 90
viewmodel_fov 70
tf_use_min_viewmodels 1
cl_interp 0.0325
cl_interp_ratio 1
rate 97000
cl_updaterate 66
cl_cmdrate 66
(Yes, I increased the rate! Use this one instead.)
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haha lol xd he sounds like he has a depression
Aar bloody hell. I got sad just listening to it for 1 min.
Aar no u
Aar burger king foot lettuce
Absolutely not, why you say that? xd
Aar you sound like the male version of Velma
4:31 "how fair would it be if the demo could see more of the battle than you?"
also demo: *only 1 eye*
i dont get it
@@chadangeles3856 the demoman has 1 eye, meaning realistically he has less vision than you (if you're not paying demoman), while 8 characters have both eyes, meaning they have more vision. The entire thing is that the demo sees more than you even though you would actually have more sight in reality.
@@aandric yeah but the soldier does have a helmet that obstructs both his eyes but he still has both of them so i don't think that matters
@@memelover6917 its all a joke
@@grandmoffgigi i know, no need to tell me
edit:just pointing something out
4:58 This spy has over 500 IQ
Yes
That's just basic 100-140 IQ
😂😂😂
That's just kind of an asshole move
@@venomouszebr9755 you're funny at parties arent you, well im wrong because you dont go to parties even.
4:58 *spy disguises as hoovy*
Sneak 100
Thanks mate
I do that
I disguse as spy in easy bots (there's never a spy )
I always do that and it’s so much fun
i do that, people actually fall for it
if they fall for it i stop doing it tho its kinda mean
5:00 this cruel kind of spy...
edit: lol I came back in 2023 forgetting that I watched this video already years ago and saw the same spy footage and wanted to comment on it
But...Is a Blue heavy and Him Is Blue spy where Is the logic???
@@unukthewarrior8077 people don't shoot at friendlies unless they're ultra tryhards or new players. And it makes more sense for him to be able to bump into them when he disguises as a friendly hoovy.
@@echo9614 "ultra tryhards"
Theres that buzzword again
@@echo9614 you mean unless they're a normal player
@@johnt3606 That comment was 6 months ago but anyways. Yeah, i guess.
“Confusing dialogue boxes” “click here to start playing”
Lmao XD
Did you not see that the game also has like 3 other things bouncing and shining which, mind you, don’t mean squat to a new player. If the first moments of booting up a game have you looking at a dialog box pointing to a thing, but also *a crapton of icons* filling your vision like some CoC-type mobile game; that is not a great intro to a game.
Reunite The British Empire he kinda has a point though. Sure, there’s clear instructions on what to do, but with other blaring/moving icons, the player will revert their attention to those things and not the instructions.
@@jimbo491 The first time downloaded tf2 I was so confused at the disparities between my friend's game and the default I had. Turns out he had figured it all out. It also doesn't help that my computer is a potato and steam alone almost kills the damn thing. Had to delete until I get a better computer. The guy has a point.
@Reunite The British Empire no, actually he's so correct. Why are tf2 fans so completely unable to take criticism? Oh yeah, because their game is shit and dead.
4:58 SMARTEST SPY EVER
Big brain moves
big brain
That connection command you posted has DRAMATICALLY improved my overall gameplay. Specifically when I play Medic. My heal numbers on people would go up so slow and broken but now with those commands the numbers move smoothly (if not quickly) and it's slick as hell in the connection department. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS. NEVER DELETE THIS VIDEO.
I'm going to try this, just got my shitty PC fixed and anything that makes it run tf2 better is good
How do I apply these options?
@@Ashurus enter the commands in your console. if you cant open the console by hitting ` or ~ you need to enable developer console in the advanced settings.
@@Ashurus im pretty sure you can put those commands on the launch option with a "+" before every command you put in
@@azharp9391 Can you test that and see if it works?
When I started playing TF2 I thought you needed to reconnect every time you wanted to change classes.
yeah...
Ah yes, the noob stage XD
I thought they explained this during the game
Doesn’t explain stuff well
@@Suspicious-Carl this is gold
bRuH
Windows XP runs tf2 better than my windows 10 pc
That's so accurate
I second this
So, it's the problem of windows? Wow
*ISNT THAT ILEGALL?*
Yeah windows 10 will slow your shit down if it needs an update not o ly that but i get dell updates that arent on auto for some reason (dell g7 15 its my first gaming laptop)
off topic:
that virtual machine runs tf2 better than my pc itself.
DrIvanRadosivic try having my parents
GR33N_B34ST_sk spoiled
DrIvanRadosivic You gotta understand some of us have parents who don't like spending tons of money to run the hat simulator 2 or da block gaem
Get gud
used to be true for me! -former potato pc gamer. I still feel your pain.
3:55
In the chat is an, interesting sentence. Just, read it. It is one of the most confusing yet damaging insults I've ever heard.
Mike Jarington thank you for spotting this gem of an insult
@@jjjjjjjn__ No problem, I guess?
I love how someone says "Thanks" right below it
@「Ace」 indeed
*gay noob*
"The work the TF Team has done to keep this game alive after all these years."
This didnt age too well.
What, iS tHe GaMe DeAd Or SoMeThInG
Squabby Milk can you not see that I typed it in a way to make it look sarcastic
Damn it's Underswap Papyrus
Hehe.........
Even worse now
0:46 - "Okay, okay, timeout."
"Timeout! And know, Kid, shake your Hands."
@@funkyoa engineer gaming
@@funkyoa engineer gaming
@@funkyoa engineer gaming
@@funkyoa engineer gaming
So, that's why the rocket jump doesn't work for me.
yea me too, its very easy to do in offline mode, but its hard at the online
Roo Gamatars, I have no problem rocket jumping with any rocket launcher, except for the rocket jumper ironically. I have no clue why that is, my only thought is that the rocket jumper sends me far enough that it slows down my game trying to process it?
This happens to pyro too with airblast I’ve hit so many rockets and these settings kinda just said “nah you didn’t hit that lol”
Lord Diavolo, same, that’s why I never bother to hit right click as Pyro, it literally never works.
@@corey7457 it just doesnt work for me in a dodgeball game but it works all the time in casual
your computer can run TF2 on a computer inside the computer, but my pc can’t run the menu of tf2
I have a pretty beefy computer now, so I can finally run the menu of tf2
Same
I can relate. It barely runs the menu.
Get a graphics card. A standard office pc won’t work because it won’t generate the graphics or game smoothness, even though its been a year i just felt like you shoud know that
@@stiktabulous Bro,my core i3 7th gen 520 hd Integrated graphics laptop can run tf2 with some tweaks and config.
@@agavin22 I mean it is possible to run games without a gpu but it won't process as good
i actually prefer holding down m1 while healing.
Doesn't Shade do that too?
He's a god amongst men
Yeah same, though since my M1 broke (because I always hold M1) I just clicked that
Same here. It allows for a more controlled healing
Same
the dialogue is delivered in a way which makes me think he has acquired chronic depression from having to deal with tf2 bullshit.
That's his entire channel.
He reminds me of Ben Stein.
The easy fix is to not end 75% of sentences with a lower tone than the rest of the sentence my man :( Keep even if its a statement, or higher if its a question. Constantly lowering the tone makes it very difficult to listen to
Number 15: Burger King Foot Lettuce
dead meme.
so glad this resource is kept up to date with the most recent versions of the game! its a relief returning to it after all these years
Major props for explaining how to fix the defaults without sounding like a condescending prick. Being new to PC gaming can really set you back, especially when a lot of other tutorials or discussion videos like this one talk like you're an idiot if you don't know about POV vs viewmodel POV.
I'm sorry but yeah, you're an idiot if you don't know that.
I mean he's treating people like they're braindead, he's being extremely condescending in this video. Most of the settings he mentioned aren't even that important, the only one that actually matters is resolution which isn't even that hard for a first timer to figure out, the rest are literally irrelevant once you have some game sense
@@Jiub_SNI think you’re the dumbass here.
"I just wish I didn't have to pass a config along to every friend I've invited to play the game", I agree so much with this, I'm always calculating the trade-off whether its a more enjoyable experience for them to sit through me explaining how to add 2 folders to their tf folder, which can take up to 15 minutes depending on the person, or let them jump right in with a worse experience.
adding two folders? what do they need from default besides null movement?
teamviewer. if they wont team viewer. fuck'em xD
Two folders? What about?
@@WymanandBrad An optimization config dependant on the PC cause TF2 is about as well optimised as a shark is for hunting deer. Also a better HUD most likely since the default one is really out of date IMO.
Can you give me your cofiguration, please?
All the commands in the video description together in one :D
fov_desired 90 ;viewmodel_fov 70 ;tf_use_min_viewmodels 1 ;cl_interp 0.0325 ;cl_interp_ratio 1 ;rate 97000 ;cl_updaterate 66 ;cl_cmdrate 66
where do you put these?
@@MrFoxALot on the console
good video blue boy
yeye
is that a spy boi?
OooOooOOOoooOOOooOOoo
a Woolen Sleevelet in what situation has anyone ever died to a sticky bomb because it was “hidden behind their gun”. Like WTF, I’ve been playing tf2 since orange box and I’ve never had that happen. EVER
The outro music brings me back to Kitty0706. Tears in my eyes
Shut up grandma
@@tylerlackey1175 hater detected
Good old days,sad,so sad
Why did he stop uploading?
@@Hadi290.9 litty is dead no joke
"I may have sounded a little harsh in this video." No. You sounded bored.
sounded more dead inside than harsh or bored
Microsoft Sam!!
A small Depression
Same
I would have probably never even learned of these things in TF2 if it weren’t for these videos of yours, thanks a ton ❤️
*naice cavestoreh profile picc*
Thanks! I made it back in 2015.
Yeah me too
I decided to watch this video again and of course I get a Stadia ad saying "What you can't see can kill you."
How fitting.
This is why I always have a high POV and viewmodel POV, since you are at an disadvantage if you don’t increase your FOV
you again?
your in every vid i see wtf
HOW THE FUCK DO YOU. WHAT THE FUCK DUDE
StickMaster500 i keep following you i keep seeing u in every tf2 video ever
Don’t you mean FOV?
I changed the settings to the ones you suggest and my experience was instantly improved. I couldn't recommend these settings enough, thank you!
I did too execpt min view models
10/10 settings
@@sloomyguys sorry, can't help you. Also, your grammar was fine.
As a kid, I played the game in the lowest possible resolution for 50 hours :). I couldn't read a thing and didn't know how to change it.
Most games do not launch with all that decent resolution nor FOV settings. This isn't unique to TF2 and is common across most shooters since modern FPS have been a thing. Not sure why this is seen as a problem.
Oh hey, love your content! I know that a lot of games have similar initial resolution and fov issues, I was just thinking of potential reasons that new players could leave the game so quickly
Thinking about this further - this is more frequently a problem with F2P shooters. Which, in line with your points, is a problem since the lower barrier to entry means more newbs/inexperienced players joining in.
I guess devs need to work on better auto-detect settings. They obviously shoot low so players on any machine can get a smooth experience, but that can go in the wrong direction too. I'd say 480p was likely due to the Virtualbox drivers not being seen as real/good hardware, it usually launches at 800x600 or higher on new machines in my experience.
But definitely something developers on the whole need to work on.
I definitely agree. Additionally, I did notice that the virtual machine caused the 854x480 resolution, while on my native windows install it was also 800x600 as you stated
Isn't that just a "if others are doing something wrong its okay for me to do it too" logic? There are plenty of games that analyze your system on first launch, just because some don't doesn't mean it shouldn't be seen as a problem..
fancy seeing you here
these settings you left in desciption improved my game by 100%
For the network settings, I would reccomend not touching cl_interp and setting cl_interp_ratio to 2, as it overrides cl_interp when its set to something, as well as having the rate set to 100000 (60000 is below the default)
Oh, thanks man
Do u know the other defults I need help pls
What is default cl_interp?
@@nestor5475 the default interp setting is the equivalent of 100 ms delay, to be able to cover a ludicrous 6 consecutive dropped packets. This was common back when tf2 was first release, but should never happen today.
cl_interp 100000?
The nice thing is that when I started pc gaming, my dad showed me how to change resolution.
Your dad is a good man, thank you
I learnt it through fixing my screens
Good man kind man
I learned it from buying a new monitor
It was just something I assumed lol
Number 15: Burger King Foot Lettuce
The last thing you want
is someone's foot fungus
In your burger king burger
They all had happy life and didn't die like others
DAMMIT MAN YOU RUINED IT
"They may think that this resolution is the only possible option"
Me, a potato PC user: *Yes*
So I'm not *actually* shitty at pogoing
It's just my network thingies
I swear to god Volvo
Edit: I'm not going to bother fixing this autocorrect funny
Volvo
Volvo
Volvo
Volvo
Volvo
SHOUT OUTS 2 SIMPLE FLIPS
o wait thats his account oh
uh
"The demo can see more" me an intelectual: tapes black construction paper on the right half of the screen*
I'm not new to comp gaming, I've been playing since I was 8 but I consider this as very helpful because I as a TF2 player that has 1118 hours clocked, haven't known about the server setting or network setting command in the console, sure I see it but I never thought of it as Important. Because of that 1Sub and 1like :3
"They might not know what resolution is"
4:20, my brain said "MEDIC!"
You popped up in my recommended, and I’m glad you did. Good video.
Same here
Hey Aar
I've been a sub since you only had a couple 10 to 20 subs
You make a amazing content, keep up the great work!
Hey there Aar, I'm new to Tf2, but have really started to like the game. Your videos have been a huge help with helping get my settings good and so I would like to thank you.
1:22 did... did he just get two random crits?!
They are random
I like the default FOV and POV settings, as I like the challenge. And also, I've adapted to those, having played like this for since 2010. Ahh the good old days. God damn. I've known and played the game for almost 10 years... Wow the change is so great. Amazing that the fact Valve is still updating the game 11 years later. That shows their dedication. The one thing that I've changed is my resolutions, I'm gonna change the cl_ stuff tommorow when I have the time. Thank you for the info. No you didn't sound harsh you sounded like a bored high schooler making a "rant" video
"still updating,"
I think the next update should add a new training mode and fix the issues that you mentioned.
yeah they should make training contracts with a hint on how to do the contract objective (i stole this from german peter XD)
Honestly i like this calm and understandable voice, stop talking about it ppl
Love the fact that the command for hitsounds is "cl_dingalingaling"
Lol
These settings feel so amazing! I always wondered why it felt like I wasn't shooting as often as I was clicking and why people would obliterate me before I could even run away.
most monotone voice ever feels like your never even alive
love it
This is actually a really helpful video for stock screen settings. Like I changed everything according to my PC and stuff like that and all my preferences in the settings but never bothered fov things and stuff like that
Windows XP is a national treasure
Dan Miller i like fine memes as well
I like how he talks about huds and has the shittiest crosshairs in tf2
I keep coming back here to set up the configs, you're a lifesaver man!
I remember when you had to physically enable auto-reload. It felt like a revelation.
Jokes aside thought your voice is very relaxing (no homo)
PaperHat haha gay!
PaperHat haha gay!
@@TheFuriousBean lmao what the hell u stole his comment
@@nickwasnothere4924 lmao what the hell you stole his comment
@@TheFuriousBean no u
The FOV options are in the video settings menu.
You also forgot to mention to keep multicore rendering ON and Wait for Vertical Sync OFF.
VSync prevents tearing though. I have to play all games with Vsync on or else I get that annoying tear
0:43 11 Years of TF2 in 1 clip
I don't think the testing should have been done on Windows XP, it along with possible low VM specs could have caused the low resolution, among other things.
No, its the same settings as any OS.
Setting mat_picmip -10 is also HUGE to make the game look cleaner
Aren’t all default settings terrible for like every multiplayer game. Ever
Min viewmodels look so bad tho. Also your first viewmodel example about stickies breaks as soon as you actually move
I have been playing this game since 2017 and just now learned about how I am disadvantaged based off of default settings
6 years later in hindsight both of the examples shown are very bad as you'd DEFINITELY see those sticky traps walking up to the point where theyre out of view
I'm a bit split on Viewmodel FOV, since a lot of the weapons feel "chunkier" at 54 and there's no cut-off arms (also it better represents how the characters would actually hold them), but I agree that 70 is more comfortable and that's what I set it to when I first discovered I could change it.
FOV, though, there's no excuse. 90 degrees is what it's always been in any game predating TF2 and under the Source engine (meaning that someone would have had to manually make that change??). 90 degrees is the most logical default and the highest it can be set to in any environment without distortion.
At 70 degrees, it feels more like you're sliding your view along a flat surface. It doesn't feel right and it makes me feel queasy.
But yeah, even though these may be nitpicky, they are small changes that would be welcomed and would help new players grow accustomed easier.
PS pls make a video on how sexy the old viewmodel shaders wereeee
PSS also the Demo should hold the Stickybomb Launcher with two hands in first person, it's tiny comfortable changes that Valve are making now (since the viewmodel animation adjustments), and that's great.
Just get the viewmodel overhaul. It has 2. I used to use it but now it doesn't really matter as I'm using r_drawviewmodel 0.
Kapanyo Starting every Source game:
Options and immediately setting FOV to the max. I had no clue what it meant the first time around but now I know it's pretty much crucial.
Old view model shaders were better because they had a different model type and they lacked THAT SUPER SHITTY ASS PHONG MASK (Ugly greyish shine on weapons)
About 90 FOV being default - In original Half-Life 2 release build, it's 70 and can't be changed unless you do sv_cheats 1. In today's version it _can_ be changed, but it's still defaulted at 70.
I don't remember much about other games, but I'm pretty sure quite a bunch of Source engine games have 70 FOV by default(except Counter-Strike games, and Portal 2 I think).
Oh, okay then, guess I was mistaken. I was referring to the fact that the default FOV from Doom to Quake to HL1 was 90. I can only assume it was made 70 to give it more of a cinematic feel (which it doesn't imo).
damn this video is old but thank you regardless dude. I've been watching tf2 content for a while now but never could really get into playing it (I have around 150 hours by playing a few times between years) because i never bothered to get a custom hud or get into the more advanced part of video settings, but holy shit, after actually looking into those it's crazy how big of an impact it has on gameplay, i finally feel like i can play the game
Depression
Black
I just found someone in my comments section is a different video with the exact same profile picture as you
Mithren they are the killer beans army
Killer beans is the best movie
Cheesus Christ, this when you know source is old
Cheesus?
After literally thousands of hours of TF2, I honestly didn't know about the cl_ parts. Super helpful! Thanks!
Honestly, I was too scared to change fov_desired for some reason. I was fine with anything else though. Add me I you wanna play some TF2 x10 sometime @EatMyDamage , comment viewer
steam name :Viewtiful jojo,love to be medic or anyother kind of support classes... lets go
Pootis Man! im on right now so whenevr you wanna game up bro
Pootis Man! its cool
jojohernandezGames I like people that makes friends with comments it looks so nice. Add me if you want Steam name: RedEyeKaneki
Kisaki Vixequinn ill add ya right now :3 viewtiful jojo is the steam name
“Why this channel is good and is underrated” should be next
I can’t believe there are people out there that think the default settings are fine, and they’re aware that they can change but won’t
"I just wish I didn't have to pass a config to every friend I've invited to play the game"
Yuuuup. This whole video echoes my biggest problem with tf2
I've played the game for over 2 years with the default networking settings, I'm shocked to see that I've been at a disadvantage for so long.
same here 550 hours and ive never heard of this
rocket jumping is so much much easier to time
2k hours, playing for about 8 years, only just changed them today.
God damn.
just a minor one
Pnowy 11 550 hours aren’t that much lmao
Year 2022 and still useful video.
I don't know if this only happened to me, but when i used these commands, it destroyed my ping and i could barely even walk out of spawn. Could anyone tell me the original commands?
5:44 just a reminder to myself to slap these settings on
The rate on mine is set to 80000.
Since its bigger, should i use it? Or not?
6:30 "I may have sounded a little harsh in this video" *proceeds to talk calmer than a rock*
dudes voice made it unbearable to listen to.
harsh meaning critical of the game in this context
6:16 i am a medic main with 1000 hours on the class, and i hold mouse one always down while healing, that way i have more control over who i heal and when,
If you are using the quick fix and always have to double click to heal another target it just feels sluggish
This makes perfect sense, and just like manual reloading, it is better if you have it enabled and can get fully used to it, but its also just sluggish and often the situations where it would come in handy often are far rarer than the situations where it would be better to just be able to tap once, or not at all with the case of the reloading.
@@jc_art_ ye that makes sense
Sometimes criticism comes from liking something and wanting it to be as good as possible
My fov settings
- viewmodel_fov 95
- minimal viewmodel thing yes
- desire I forgot thing
This settings is dope for me
0:12 how do you get your hud to look like that with the tiny soldier, the chat at the top, the ting that tells you who you hit stuff like that
Toon hud makes that stuff, Im just responding bcs im bored, i think u already know how to do it
@@szymoneloo8229this helped me lol thanks
tbh ive been neglecting everything u said for like 3 or 4 months untill i died by bs....
after i did all of this setting i pubstomp 6 games in a row and get accused of hacks once... the heck
Thanks a lot. I'll configure the default settings to the better one's . . . once I get done doing my homework.
is it weird that I find your voice incredibly attractive
agreed
yikes
When I first get or install a game on a new PC or anything I always configure my settings as I sometimes hate the defaults, like some invert aim on default!
I rewatch this every time I get back into TF2, just to refresh myself.
here are the commands chained together to make things easier
fov_desired 90; viewmodel_fov 70; tf_use_min_viewmodels 1; cl_interp 0.0325; cl_interp_ratio 1; rate 97000; cl_updaterate 66; cl_cmdrate 66
May you only have happiness in your life
@@Not.Spooky thanks
@@techietimes7754 may your pillow be cold tonight
Gosh it's already one year old ?
Jordan's meme Shop lol so why did he say it ?
whats 1 year old?
You’re telling me I’ve been playing tf2 wrong for 5 years?
Changing the viewmodel fov was the worst error I've ever committed, now it looks like shit and for whatever reason my console stopped working
5:44 Just making a reminder (ignore dis pls)
Just gonna place it here for myself :) 3:35
Yup 6:08
No i don't think i will
Why i should i ignore that and dont type that in console?
When I started playing tf2 the resolution blocked some of the screen where ammo was so as a pyro i used to always waist air blast not knowing what it is or what it does and wasted the ammo down.
I've been playing tf2 sub-optimally for years. Thanks for giving me some pointers!
This just reminded me that my friends have been playing on default settings... jesus christ.
I'm sending this to VALVe now >:)
*send
It makes me sad knowing that I can watch this 5 years after it was uploaded and all of this info still be up to date.
I played TF2 for years and had no idea you could change any of those settings until now. Why indeed is the widest FoV not the default?