Edit: answers to your commonly asked questions. - The HUD is Flawhud - To get thirdperson in Casual Medieval type the command at the start of the gameplay in your console. - No the speech bubble didn't show to enemies when I talk, only my teammates, this is only a thing on alltalk servers. If you pull off a sick coffin spot then put it on twitter and tag me in it! twitter.com/creemgarvy
Didn't record it, but I once pulled it off on Class Wars. We were defending at stage 1 and, because it seemed impossible to win Spy vs Medic matchup, I tried to pull off Coffin strat for shit and giggles. Stayed near those boxes for 3 minutes straight before they realized what prevented them from capping.
What happened is that Creem got hit and so his model (along with its collision box and hitboxes) shifted away from the coffin. It's why you can see the Demo go inside the coffin as he swings again. The sword hit the wall.
Doing the Coffin strat on Halloween mode is obscene since the Coffin straight up looks like an in game prop on certain maps. I would definitely do a part 2 of this when Scream Fortress 2024 comes out.
@@Demanteq its already been almost a year since the coffin came out, and people still have no idea. Spirit Halloween's started setting up their stores a month ago, i dont think time is moving by as slow as you think
The box is bright and always has a team color associated with it, making it stand out on most maps. The coffin, on the other hand, is a neutral color and texture, able to blend into darker props on more maps, if in the right spot... also no team colors. Also at certain angles enemy sentries will target you, but shoot ABOVE YOU, being able to waste its ammo. It's insane.
@@foodaah it's not mocap, it you can see only the hands and head are tracked, and it's moving like a vrchat character, along with the camera that you can hold in vrchat
Spy: *hides in cardboard box* Enemy Team: *eviscerates Spy immediately* Enemy Team: Get your solid snake wannabe outta here, your strat is dead! Spy: *respawns* Dead you say? Spy *hides in coffin*
Best reason the coffin taunt is better than boxtrot It blends in 100% on all halloween maps, making detection near impossible, even if players know about it.
Oldest meme strategy? There is the meme strategy of spraying something "worth looking at" and then backsatabbing the distracted player as spy and sprays are older than the box trot taunt.
can i just say having your "avatar" be just the robo soldier instead of your main played class with 3 unusuals is SO refreshing. along with how animated this little guy is i love watching him emote
@@MoreCreemSmile if you use the taunt while standing on a teleporter the coffin will disappear and the spy will be lying flat on the ground, use this info wisely
On 2fort, when this taunt was relatively new, I realized this, and so through the means of dealing damage and than healing him, we managed to get the spy to be almost completely across the room from where his coffin was. Good times.
@@subhuman2433 They already made Prop Hunt in TF2 a while back, it was an absolute disaster because of sentries, airblast, ubercharge, etc. They'd have to restrict most of the classes for it to be viable.
@@RandomRebelSoldier Maybe make it an alternative to the invis watch. To sentries you still count as invisible. Visually the spy turns into a map appropriate prop. "The Cardboard Conniver" Disguise as a map prop + Silent cloaking and decloaking + No cloak charge is drained while active. + 3rd person camera while cloaked + Leaves a fake map prop in place when decloaking . Maximum of 3 fake props . Fakes are destroyed upon taking damage - 25% slower while cloaked - Not actually invisible - Lose all cloak charge upon decloaking "Ah this reminds me of my youth in the Militaires sans Frontieres..."
Hold up, are you using VR/Mocap for your Robot Soldier Animations? That's a fucking genius way to get away with microstutters and weird artifacts in the motion.
That was when I started playing this game. I started playing during Love and War. It feels like I'd been playing for a rather long time by the time Box Trot came out though. So strange how time feels different the older you get.
*every death within that box should trigger a random game over theme from Metal Gear Solid, because, why not?* (someone should mod it) Also, add long ladders.
when we were playing with my spymain friend he used that taunt to clutch through longer cp rounds or mess around with the cart. sometimes ppl wouldnt even notice him despite being on top of it lol, it was a lot of fun. happy to get a reminder of those times, ty for the great video !!
Just want to say, your animated persona as Robot Soldier is AWESOME! I love how expressive it can be, even without a "face." It really made the video enjoyable to see your character in a unique way! Not to mention, the editing was GREAT! It's paced really well :D On the other hand, this was quite the video! Really informative and entertaining! Also, hilarious to see how players react to these little mishaps hehe! Great work! Have a wonderful day and God bless you :D
Someone tried to use this on High Tower to push the cart well trying to resemble a corpse. And they would have gotten away with it too, if I wouldn't have recognized this taunt. :3
This is a really good video with awesome editing, I loved seeing real time movement of vr, reminded me a lot of therussianbadgers style of real life in an animated mimicry
Never seen any of your videos before, but the animations, editing, commentary, all of it were amazing Now to go back and watch all of your other videos :P
The thing to surpass the boxtrot and the coffin taunts are the sadness taunt. On classes especially soldier who lays flat on the ground and the hitbox is dead center it makes it 10X funnier when people glance over you
A tip for the VRC sections: you can remove the jitter that is caused by local tracking by using the interpolator program that someone made. I don't remember the name, but looking up "vrc fix jitter" should be good enough. The other solution is to record it from another client lol
@@MoreCreemSmile I think I was watching on a lower quality, so it was looking like the fbt jitter I get, I can see it now that I'm watching it on my big monitor at the right res lol
using the robot soldier model is really clever, all the slight jitters from the program interpreting your motion just look like the way machines are animated in mvm.
The problem is you keep hiding in the same spot (especially notable in medieval). Only use the CoffinTrot on maps/points where you can switch it up a bit when killed, otherwise they'll quickly figure out where to look.
Funnily enough this strat works for the EXACT reason the boxtrot once worked. 1. New taunt not well known 2. Easy to overlook based on the aesthetics of the map design. 3. Unexpected Avenue of Point activation/negation. It is truly the spiritual successor. Condolences to anyone who tries this moving forward because now players will be looking for this prop for this exact reason.
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Edit: answers to your commonly asked questions.
- The HUD is Flawhud
- To get thirdperson in Casual Medieval type the command at the start of the gameplay in your console.
- No the speech bubble didn't show to enemies when I talk, only my teammates, this is only a thing on alltalk servers.
If you pull off a sick coffin spot then put it on twitter and tag me in it! twitter.com/creemgarvy
@@wowzaaaaaaaaaaaaa no, no one will
Now try using this emote on cart on payload at start
no
You can also tell your friends(if you have them) to use that taunt and stay in the same spot and point capture rate will be increased
Didn't record it, but I once pulled it off on Class Wars. We were defending at stage 1 and, because it seemed impossible to win Spy vs Medic matchup, I tried to pull off Coffin strat for shit and giggles. Stayed near those boxes for 3 minutes straight before they realized what prevented them from capping.
6:29 his teammate ate the melee hit here, causing him to think that you were just a prop again
Thats fucking insane luck
it's really funny how his teammate ate the melee hit when the teammate is literally nowhere near in front of him
What happened is that Creem got hit and so his model (along with its collision box and hitboxes) shifted away from the coffin. It's why you can see the Demo go inside the coffin as he swings again. The sword hit the wall.
@@vina6665classic tf2 hotbox moment
THEY ARE EATING EACH OTHER'S MELEE HITS
@@sy-py i immediately read that in lazy purple voice XD
I wonder how he's doing? It's been over a year and he's been silent
Doing the Coffin strat on Halloween mode is obscene since the Coffin straight up looks like an in game prop on certain maps. I would definitely do a part 2 of this when Scream Fortress 2024 comes out.
By that time, players will probably already be adapted to coffins.
@@Demanteq its already been almost a year since the coffin came out, and people still have no idea. Spirit Halloween's started setting up their stores a month ago, i dont think time is moving by as slow as you think
yes
Here it is.
The box is bright and always has a team color associated with it, making it stand out on most maps. The coffin, on the other hand, is a neutral color and texture, able to blend into darker props on more maps, if in the right spot... also no team colors. Also at certain angles enemy sentries will target you, but shoot ABOVE YOU, being able to waste its ammo. It's insane.
Its funny how it's literally to the point where one of his teammates thought he was an enemy LMAO
" in a moment of desperation, sniper tries hitting the cart with his pan" That got me laughing
What I've learned is that people can now use TF2 robots as their VR persona
he is using a mocap suit, in case you didn't know
Damn. @@foodaah I think he knows. It's just that vr tracking is much cheaper and more usable in some random vids like these.
@@foodaah it's not mocap, it you can see only the hands and head are tracked, and it's moving like a vrchat character, along with the camera that you can hold in vrchat
@@knyt0 oh i see, thx for explaining
Vrchat is super good for this. It's amazing 😊
philphiest coffin spot known to man
Known to Mann
Va phiewphiest coffen spo’
"nnnnnooooer" every time he gets caught lol
@@ryandavis6107vrwong philosophyphilliest cough-in sp-ought none 2 mann
I looked at this and was so confused and then realised you meant ‘filthiest’ 😭
i vant to stop your caaart
hah
Omg yes
Weird how "Cart" is a great substitute for "Heart" and it fits that Dracula theme all the same.
@@Boomblox5896i feel like heart-stopping is more of a _byproduct_ of what dracula does
@@Voidi-Void dracula is the throat goat fr fr
Spy: *hides in cardboard box*
Enemy Team: *eviscerates Spy immediately*
Enemy Team: Get your solid snake wannabe outta here, your strat is dead!
Spy: *respawns* Dead you say?
Spy *hides in coffin*
Enemy Team: _NANI!_
NO! That is NOT Solid Snake!
@@LarryTheTugaGamer1511 Stop Impersonating him!
@@NickZzZ99 *empties magazine on 'em*
Best reason the coffin taunt is better than boxtrot
It blends in 100% on all halloween maps, making detection near impossible, even if players know about it.
I cannot get enough of the mocap segments. KEEP IT UP GREEM!!
Tf2 addicts rise 🆙
It's Amazing!
Yoooooooo Mew ze
It's vrchat is it?
Yooooo it's the mario garden warfare TF2 corpse ahh voice guy! Love your videos!
Oldest meme strategy? There is the meme strategy of spraying something "worth looking at" and then backsatabbing the distracted player as spy and sprays are older than the box trot taunt.
Looks better in the title :)
Pingas
@@MoreCreemSmile it works :]
@@MoreCreemSmile fair lol
@@MoreCreemSmile I respect it.
can i just say having your "avatar" be just the robo soldier instead of your main played class with 3 unusuals is SO refreshing. along with how animated this little guy is i love watching him emote
its vr
See, this is why Spy needs an alternative disguise kit that is just various props instead of classes. Prop hunt for spies!
YO that'd be sick actually
In TFClassic the spy did have something similar in which he would play dead instead of current spy's cloaking.
this would be cool for non-spy/enemy players too, it'd be another way to reward familiarity with maps
@@vicgc96 imagine the dead ringer did this instead. That would be interesting.
10:12 is a horrible sight. I didn’t know that the spy could slide out of the taunt like that.
Just about the only thing the box Trot has on it ngl
@@MoreCreemSmile if you use the taunt while standing on a teleporter the coffin will disappear and the spy will be lying flat on the ground, use this info wisely
On 2fort, when this taunt was relatively new, I realized this, and so through the means of dealing damage and than healing him, we managed to get the spy to be almost completely across the room from where his coffin was. Good times.
kinda reminds me of the TFC feign death mechanic
always love your rigs man
especially how you got those individual grenades jiggling
5:54 lol, the demo's name was "Worst Spy Ever"
I feel like Spy having the ability to disguise as props on any given map should have been a feature to his class from the very beginning.
+ can capture/block capture while disguised
- cannot move
- no critical hits
Maybe it could be an alt Disguise kit? You lose the ability to become players but you get a pick of a few props
Prop hunt as a feature would actually be really funny, it's not like it would be particularly broken either
@@subhuman2433 They already made Prop Hunt in TF2 a while back, it was an absolute disaster because of sentries, airblast, ubercharge, etc. They'd have to restrict most of the classes for it to be viable.
@@RandomRebelSoldier Maybe make it an alternative to the invis watch. To sentries you still count as invisible. Visually the spy turns into a map appropriate prop.
"The Cardboard Conniver"
Disguise as a map prop
+ Silent cloaking and decloaking
+ No cloak charge is drained while active.
+ 3rd person camera while cloaked
+ Leaves a fake map prop in place when decloaking
. Maximum of 3 fake props
. Fakes are destroyed upon taking damage
- 25% slower while cloaked
- Not actually invisible
- Lose all cloak charge upon decloaking
"Ah this reminds me of my youth in the Militaires sans Frontieres..."
Hold up, are you using VR/Mocap for your Robot Soldier Animations? That's a fucking genius way to get away with microstutters and weird artifacts in the motion.
probably a vrchat avatar
9:14 I see what you did there. "On the back half"... very good.
Best ester eggs 9:15 the d. Ck
back half of tf2 calendar girls seggs uogh
the robo soldier to cover for the shakiness the motion cap can give out is such a genious idea
Everyone in the thumbnail is looking away from the coffin. Except the blue spy. _He knows._
That's a really cool detail, good catch!
4:49 using Bãtutã din Moldova for the transitions is a genius move
holy fuck 2015 was 9 years ago
Yeahh... doesn't seem right does it
Makes me feel like aan ancient relic ngl
0 was 2024 years ago😭🗣
That was when I started playing this game. I started playing during Love and War. It feels like I'd been playing for a rather long time by the time Box Trot came out though. So strange how time feels different the older you get.
nuh uh
We evolve the strat from the Box to the Forever Box
For better strategy, bring other Box Spy as a red herring. They'll look for another box and not a coffin
You know youre becoming truly ancient when you see people refer to a TAUNT as tf2's oldest meme strat
Boxtrot walked so that coffin could walk and stop in 1 place where people can't see you
My grandpa is great at this strategy, haven't seen him in years!
I'd pin this if I didn't have to pin my own.
i remember doing the coffins taunt whole damn round and the Blu team legit left the game thinking the cart was broken
"TF2's oldest meme strategy"
\*uses taunt added in the Gun Mettle update\*
Wow I feel old.
It just looks better for the title, I'm sure there's so much older ones
*every death within that box should trigger a random game over theme from Metal Gear Solid, because, why not?* (someone should mod it)
Also, add long ladders.
What a thrill
when we were playing with my spymain friend he used that taunt to clutch through longer cp rounds or mess around with the cart. sometimes ppl wouldnt even notice him despite being on top of it lol, it was a lot of fun. happy to get a reminder of those times, ty for the great video !!
Thanks for the nice comment :)
Just want to say, your animated persona as Robot Soldier is AWESOME! I love how expressive it can be, even without a "face." It really made the video enjoyable to see your character in a unique way! Not to mention, the editing was GREAT! It's paced really well :D
On the other hand, this was quite the video! Really informative and entertaining! Also, hilarious to see how players react to these little mishaps hehe! Great work! Have a wonderful day and God bless you :D
Someone tried to use this on High Tower to push the cart well trying to resemble a corpse.
And they would have gotten away with it too, if I wouldn't have recognized this taunt. :3
:3
10:24 that scout saw you lol
Yeah that was my friend in voice chat who I was BEGGING to let it happen, everyone else was a random though
@@MoreCreemSmile hi
editing and mocap looks crazy dude mad underrated channel 👌👌👌👌
4:11 Found you :)
Good work man, great editing and clips are juicy
TF2 Robot Soldier has gained sentience and an Australian Accent
This video was really enjoyable to watch! I loved the use of mocap, it's very creative!
DANG IT DUDE!! YOU BEAT ME TO THE PUNCH!!! I'm working on a vid about this exact same strat LMAO!!
Hey make it anyway man
We are so starved of new content that we now use taunts as new mechanics
Sunny:”no” while smiling 3:05
Nice mocap suit! Love that you kept the general jitteriness of the mvm robot too.
Your mocap work dropped my job. You are amazing at video creation, so keep it up and you will get BIG in no time.
chat is this another more creem classic?
This is a really good video with awesome editing, I loved seeing real time movement of vr, reminded me a lot of therussianbadgers style of real life in an animated mimicry
1:39 Rhythm Thief OST spotted.
whats the name of the ost?
Nvm ist called R Phantom Theme
Someone’s cultured 👌🏽
How to help your team win: use dirty coffin spots as spy
From just _a_ box to _the forever box_
You cant just hit me with the fact that the box trot is 9 years old like that man
This Is Underrated But This Is Like Almost Most Videos Like This So You Need To Distinguish Your Self From Other But Still Very Underrated Channel
Your such an underrated TF2tuber! Can't believe the algorithm didn't bless you, also your editing is phenomenal!
I didn't actually cared about the Taunt, I was impressed about the way you animate that Soldier.
As a Spy main, I love this. I'm going to start using this occasionally on PL and CP maps so that I can cause psychological warfare. :]
Never seen any of your videos before, but the animations, editing, commentary, all of it were amazing
Now to go back and watch all of your other videos :P
this video is crazy good i cannot believe you don't have more subs!
This makes me flash back to when Upward had some janky map geometry that let you survive Equalizer tauntkills
The integration of VRC is genius here, well done
The coffin is better during Halloween
I love the editing, the content, your whole mood really just made me enjoy the video. you definetly deserve more subscribers
Still loving the VRC tuber concept
I've never seen anyone use a robot Soldier VR persona. That's actually really cool!
watching an spy from my team do this strategy while im dead never fails to crack me up, its just so dumb
The jank of mocap fits the robot perfectly!
YOOOOOOOO THATS ME as the demoman who found u no way. as a spy main that was funny as hell
the sfm mocap is fucking awesome ive never seen anything like it
this guy is playing tf2 in third person how in the cinnamon toast flip
THATS WHAT IM SAYING
Medieval mode allows its own special third person
The thing to surpass the boxtrot and the coffin taunts are the sadness taunt. On classes especially soldier who lays flat on the ground and the hitbox is dead center it makes it 10X funnier when people glance over you
Nice video. I really appreciate all of the editing and the extra stuff you've done. Very high quality video!
That soldier bot SFM is absolutely wild
This guy does the thing where an animated character does moving stuff but is actually animated good
Spy : Sleeps on the job
also Spy : Wins.
Clearly they were outclassed.
9:37 you hace alerted the swarm
smart idea using VR to present the idea
motion tracked soldier bot model is an interesting way of presenting things
i rly like the editing and sfm bits
*BOX TAUNT WAS RELEASED BACK IN 2015? WHAT A FFFFFFFFFF MAN*
A tip for the VRC sections: you can remove the jitter that is caused by local tracking by using the interpolator program that someone made. I don't remember the name, but looking up "vrc fix jitter" should be good enough. The other solution is to record it from another client lol
If by jutter you mean the shakiness on the shoulders, that's just the model. It mimicks the shoulder shake of the mvm robots
@@MoreCreemSmile I think I was watching on a lower quality, so it was looking like the fbt jitter I get, I can see it now that I'm watching it on my big monitor at the right res lol
like i always say
¨TF2 player not only never look up but also NEVER TURN AROUND¨
The VR avatar for use in this video is next level. Changing the game
using the robot soldier model is really clever, all the slight jitters from the program interpreting your motion just look like the way machines are animated in mvm.
2:32
Medic:...vat ze hell?
Sniper:aree you BLOODY KIDDIN ME!?
The problem is you keep hiding in the same spot (especially notable in medieval). Only use the CoffinTrot on maps/points where you can switch it up a bit when killed, otherwise they'll quickly figure out where to look.
Oh I love the soldier robot animations (I know it's not hand animated but it's still really really cool)
Crypt Creeper is even better on Scream Fortress
Muselk from 9 years ago
Nostalgia
This trick is even better during scream fortress, where every map is covered with Halloween decorations
I like the robot soldier animation you made, was that you in vr chat using the robot soldier model?
yep exactly right
@@MoreCreemSmile cool
My team attacking got absolutely japed by a spy on upward in that exact spot for like 3 minutes, laughed hard when I found him
This strat is BUSTED in the Zombie Survival mode. Just find a random out-of-the-way patch of dark grass and never be found again
I've seen a spy successfully do this on sharkbay before, I was running around for a good 30 seconds wondering why the cap wasn't working.
Funnily enough this strat works for the EXACT reason the boxtrot once worked.
1. New taunt not well known
2. Easy to overlook based on the aesthetics of the map design.
3. Unexpected Avenue of Point activation/negation.
It is truly the spiritual successor. Condolences to anyone who tries this moving forward because now players will be looking for this prop for this exact reason.
I think this strategy should be nicknamed the "Coffin Trotter".
holy shit fastest subscribe in the west. how is this channel not 1m+?
4:45 this guy plays with tf_scoreboard_alt_class_icons 1
@@ImReddoer it looks normal to me now haha
Me too
First, we got thr boxtrot spy; Now, we got the Possum Boxtrot!
I just envision the spy sticking his finger out of the coffin and holding the cart back
This video is awesome!! I love the content, keep up the grind man!!!