2001 Lincoln LS 3.9 V8 Engine Rattle. Cam chain tensioner gone.
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- Опубліковано 31 січ 2011
- '01 Lincoln LS V8 rattle due to bad secondary tensioners. I have pics of the damaged left tensioner. Also the left secondary cam had jumped time.
Here is two pics. In the first you can see the right cam is out of time one tooth.
The second shows how bad the tensioner was.
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I had to buy a chain with a master link since it had stretched 1/8".
I updated the pics to show what to look for, 1/19/12
Now the damn thing needs a clockspring. - Авто та транспорт
Mine did not sound half as bad but it hadd a rough idle and a constant misfire on one cylinder checked the timing and my exhaust cam was one tooth turned out on the passenger side head where the misfire was and both tensioners were missing the plastic like yours. Basicly mine was in the early stages. Thanks for the vid after checking everything diagnosticly and oit all checking out i decided to pull it apart and there was the problem.
How can I fix this problem on 2000 ls v8
My 3.9 broke guides and chain wedged in housing. I can replace those but I'm not sure if there is cam, lifter, or piston damage when this happened. Any knowledge to this would be appreciated
HELP!!! has any1 had this problem i have a 2001 lincoln ls it drives fine through town but wen i go to around 45-55mph it shakes at highway speeds it calms as it is driving steady(not accelerating) does anyone have any ideas wat it could be i dont want to sell the car
I replaced the clock spring in mine 2 times and an alternator just now went out 288000 miles not to bad :)
yes i do...i got an 05 v6 and its makin a loud knocking noise...they say it might be the camshaft but im not sure...would u know what is it or the price on a repair like that??
@00Kentertainment You replaced the secondary tensioners. The chains that go down to the crank is primary, and those tensioners are long and difficult to replace. The whole front of the engine has to come off.
@MOSES1199 The chain is $60, and both upper tensioners is $140 on Ebay from
CHRISTOPHER'S FOREIGN CAR PARTS.
Did you happen to make a video of repairing it? I have the same in an 01 LS. Thanks!
Cuales son las síntomas cuando la bomba de un Lincon falla?
@00Kentertainment I ended up replacing both secondary tensioners and the left secondary chain. Reason I replaced the chain is it had stretched about 1/8" and the cam had jumped 1 tooth.
Much quieter now.
I hate to think your problem could be the primary tensioners. That would involve removing the front cover of the motor. Not a job I would want to do.
ncmach1 did it completely fix the loud rattle?
@lilfrknmnstr Yes. Get a short piece of hose and rest it on the front of the valve cover and see if thats where the most of the rattle is coming from while the motor idles.
The longer you put off looking at the chain the more it will eat into the engine block. Mine had just started to eat the aluminum right where the valve cover sits on the block.
I love my car but i need Help.. my 02 v8 ls Lincoln won't start the relays are clicking; along with some of the fuses in front..
@00Kentertainment Yes, my chain had stretched enough to start hitting the engine case right where the valve cover sits. Mine was lopeing real bad so it had to be the fact the cam had jumped 1 tooth. Oh and the compression checked fine. So that is not a indication a cam has jumped 1 tooth.
There is a good discussion about these problems over on the automotiveforums(.)com and lincolnvscadillac(.)com and also jaguarforums(.)com
Thats where I put the pics of how bad mine looked.
was this a rattle that got worse when u accelerated? thats the problem im having. a sparatic noise kind of sounds like a soda can vibrating in the engine from the cabin and it gets worse when i accelerate.
So what was the issue???
I didn't use any timing tool. Each cam has a flat on it, and should be facing up all together. All I had to do was turn the one cam one tooth.
Now here is the strange thing. After doing this work for about a week after it was done it still had a miss in it when it would pull a hill.
A couple of weeks went by and it smoothed itself out for some reason.
Maybe the stupid computer realized it was back in time.
change the coils. That is the problem I had with when I first got my LS. You can tell which coil is misfiring by going to a auto store and having them use their scanner. At first one coil went out and then the second and then the third, Finally my brother got very tired of getting under the covers to change them and changed the other 5 all at one time. By all 8 on Ebay and you will save a ton of money
Common denominator seems to be 00-02 model years. How many miles on it? Anybody with the same problem with 03 and newer?
@ncmach1
Alright thanks. I found the cam timing chain on his website. I also bought my tensioner from him a while back ago.
Now is it possible that my chain could appear and feel to be tight when the engne is off but when everything is back together and the engine is on, the chain is hitting something? I mean my car sounds exactly like yours.. I replaced the tensioner and no luck.. like i said I fixed the timing also.. So i think the next step is to buy a whole new chain incase it stretched
do a timing chain tensioners to fix the problem. if it breaks you will replace the motor. Its an fairly easy fix but does take special tools to do it right
@valadezjose47 Yep, the wifes did the same thing for over a year. Then the rattle got real bad and thats when I decided to look at the tensioners. Glad I did, before the chain eat into the block any more. I have pics on the link in my description.
I Had the same problem but the tensioners were good, my problem was the bearings, the engine had a bad pressure of oil
I am having the same problem. I have a 01 LS and the car only has 80k miles on it. I bought the car about a year ago and never got the title so the car basically sat up for almost a year. Well anyway now I got the title for the car and started driving it. When you give it gas it won't go over 20 MPH and misses horribly. Also after 3 days of me driving it, it developed a loud ticking noise or knocking. People tell me to have the oil changed which I've done but not sure if it was the right pressu
@Xcapitantravis There is a possibility your primary chain tensioners, or chain are bad.
@00Kentertainment
MINE TOO!! I replaced the Driver side Secondary timing chain tensioner, old one was FUCKED. So put it all tofether.. Made same noise! And the idle is terrible and Cylinder number 6 or 7 is misfiring... You can hear it in the exhaust.. WHAT DO I DO!?
OKAY So I fixed the timing on it. It jumped a tooth on the exhaust timing.. Still make a racket! So Im wondering .NCMACH1 U said your Chain was 1/8th off.. I never replaced my chain but im wondering.. where did u get the chain from and how much was it..?
If you could reply back to this or send me a PM please
just turning over slow? if so its prob a bad starter or loos connection you could have taken your car to autozone they would have checked your battery and alternator for free
Sounds like a timing chain slap
@Xcapitantravis I bought the tensioners and chain on Ebay from CHRISTOPHER'S FOREIGN CAR PARTS.
Search this item number, 350108168701
He gets $60 for a chain with master link.
Yep replaced the clock spring a month ago, fixed those problems, and replaced the alternator and that didn't help my starting problem at all. So that was a waste of $200.
@ncmach1 i finally got it fixed it was a misfire and now the car is drtiving great ill be honest it was a bitch to fix every thing wrong the car had
Da Bozz so what was your issue timing chain, tensions or both?
@valadezjose47 Yes it is a bitch to work on. Especially removing all the junk just so you can get the valve covers off! I will be glad when the wife can buy a Taurus or something else.
ncmach1 lol