Our Biggest Electric Car Challenge Ever! 1,400 Miles in 48 Hours Inc The NC500!
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- Опубліковано 31 гру 2019
- At Octopus, we support EV adventures.This was the first time we supported one and it's a great demonstration of how EVs can do long journeys easily, comfortably and at low cost.
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Comedy food!!
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The next challenge: Leeds UK to Marseille France . Can you take a UK EV abroad and recharge as easily as buying petrol or diesel?
And using a 24kw-30kw Leaf, not these expensive big battery cars which I personally could not justify spending the money on. I would rather buy a 12 month old £15,000 petrol car and have £20,000 sitting in the bank. (That would buy a lot of petrol) 😁
Took an I-PACE from Manchester to Frankfurt and back in 3 days, with a day at the motor show.
The answer is, it depends on the range of the EV being used. A long range Tesla vs a 30kWh Zoe are two very different propositions in Winter. On motorways. With heating,lights,satnav radio on. My neighbour’s 30kWh Zoe now achieves around 80 miles per charge. My 40kWh Zoe around 140 and that changes depending on road speed and how it’s driven.
EVs are still in their infancy. When was the last time you saw a video about testing the possibility of driving any other car 1400 miles over 48hrs?
@@LysanderLH watch Bjorn on UA-cam
Bigyin. What was that about life being about the journey, not the destination? Making the journey as pleasant as possible is the trick...
I'm so glad this video exists. I've got a Vauxhall Mokka E and I've wanted to do the NC 500 for so many years and just thought I'd never be able to in the EV.
Pass the dutchie on the left hand side ha ha ha ha ha. Love it. Crackin video. I am thinking i3 for my first ev. Love em
You're my hero. Been planning to do this exact trip for ages now in my i3 so it's great to see someone else do a test run :) Doing my trip shortly, at a but more of a relaxed pace :)
Happy New Year!.. Thanks for the fun video.
Neat video. Thank you. The food shots were fun. The trip was helpful as it shows that it can be done.
Coming Monday I’ll pick up my BMW i3. This video gave even more confidence that longer journeys are possible in this car. Good video lads!
Happy New Year... Q: Was it 120 AH battery and were you charting to 80% and how far were you taking the battery down (DOD) ? Thanks for the video 👍
Great vid. Loved the way you did it, no planning, small car etc. 2020 will see me doing a lot of the same in my new Tesla M3. By the way I can thoroughly recommend Octopus energy. I use them and get 5p per kWh for four hours overnight and 16p rest of the time. Makes my ev very inexpensive to drive. There are also codes available to give recommender and new customer £50 each.
Singing:
"Four and twenty EVs set out from Inverness,
And when the trip was over, there was not one EV less..."
:-)
Fantastic video, and stunning scenery
Happy New Year!
What version of the i3 did you drive and what was your highest range on a charge?
Excellent demonstration of how the infrastructure is the most important part and not the range of the car.
Just like any Petro car, a sports one would have to stop more than an economical. Great job. Congratulations.
I was waiting to hear clearly stated the range and KWH capacity of the car your using, how many times did you have to charge ? Thanks
Great myth busting video.
Next challenge :-
Drive to Barcelona and back during first two weeks of July. This would see the sort of impact that the use of AC would have on the mileage. Or Munich in Autumn to do the same for the heater, winter may be a bit of a push given the lack of sunlight. Both would require a couple of overnight stops.
Plus you get a decent road trip in another Octopus Electric Vehicle.
Keep up the great videos.
I lost it at.. "seasoning?" XD
I live in dingwall close to inverness amazing to see my local area
Great trip gents! Cheers!
MAY BE TWO CARS challenge using only free chargers starting with a full charge and ending with a full charge at the end of 24 hrs drive see how far can drive bit like a grand tour events.
needed full info on distance between chargers and who much charge the car had at each charger,
what you charged it too and how long it took
so then you would have miles per kwh between each charger.
One of the best EVM videos, great test of BMW i3.
Great video EVM, these long distance drives are a great way to demonstrate that EVs are perfectly capable of doing them. It’s the main reason I also like Bjørn Nyland’s 1000km challenge vídeos as they are a great way to look at the combination of efficiency and charging speed.
For the life of me I can’t understand why BMW insists on quoting their battery capacity in Ah rather than Wh like everyone else...
Great video guys, happy new year
Loved the clip with the "its early 'o' clock made my day
Happy new year great video. Looks like Scotland is ahead of UK for charger's
Yes EVM, John O Groats to Lands End (and back again) in 48 hours was done in 2016 by two guys in a Leaf. They also drove from Edinburgh to Monte Carlo in 60 hours, again in the Leaf.....
You really are getting it together now. A very accomplished presenter...
Really too bad you didn't have the time to get more video of the scenery. Now I want to visit Scotland...
ok, I live in mid devon , I have a 24 kw ENV .....I would love to do this but don't fancy spending hours (days?) on the motorway....
Just wondering, if you weren’t planning your charges how did you know “you had enough charge to reach the next charge point or even the one after that” ?
Christopher Boyle Because they’re 30-50 miles apart. Like petrol stations, you don’t plan you just go in the next town.
Happy new Decade.
How many different cards/apps etc. did you use ?
In Scotland just one.
@@ElectricVehicleMan which one?
Charge place Scotland.
Only right that I click the link and have a butchers after that journey, leasing is something I havent considered till now. just looked at them, when you said lease I take it you meant PCP? as the only other option is business contract hire, I couldn't see personal leasing?
EVM - I have an i3-Rex and will be taking it to Fully Charged in a month. I live in Texas but it will still be nearly 1000 miles round trip. Not 48hrs though, 72hrs maybe.
Love the Channel, hope to catch up with you at one of the events either her or in the UK.
On a trip like this how much time would you of spent charging the car ?
The newer version of the i3 is a huge improvement over my 2015 i3 Rex, I keep looking at it as an upgrade. The charge network in Scotland is pretty well developed.
I think the 2020 model will be even better with a denser battery pack - estimated range 350km (220 miles). I’m disappointed BMW dropped the ball since the i3 and their next EV is going to be some silly petrol SUV with EV bits shoved into it. Very shortsighted.
Great vlog, just done a round trip from Solihull - to Isle of Sky in standard range Tesla did 1250 miles cost me £43 over 5 days and such a better way to drive in an ev having to stop certinaley not as tired and cost is brilliant
Switched to Octopus (Agile, eventually) a few weeks ago hopefully using your ref code. Also just taken delivery of a Ohme smart cable via Octopus. Cheers for all the info
Beautiful country, great drive. Would be great on a motorcycle either ICE or BEV. I haven't joined the BEV world yet but may jump in with used one in March.
The NC500 is a great drive, the scenery is some of the best you'll see anywhere. I could live up there.......
Will you do a video on the new BIK subscription services such as Zenith which will really drive EV from April 2020 (0 percent ) so 40 percent discount on lease fees. Holland did 12k in a month Model 3's December 2019?
so how many miles do you think you gained with regen braking coming back from the pass?
About 15 I think.
Pity the weather at the Tongue charging point hadn't been better, you'd have got a fantastic view from there. All the same, it was really impressive how that trip went and the fact you seem to have managed to pack the kitchen sink along with the rest of the stuff in that beemer.👍👍
It's good to see other networks expanding but they are still only putting in only a few stalls per site.
I lease my Model 3 Performance through OctopusEV - great company. No hassle and very good rates
My i3 only has a 80 mile range in summer and about 60 mile range in winter. I wouldn't do that route in my car, its more of a short journey city car.
Did you have the heating on? What mode was you driving in? Eco+ or Comfort? How long was each of your charge sessions? What was your average speed? The BMW i3 app would of given you some nice stats about each of your driving sessions, you only need your VIN number to make it work which is on your windscreen. It would of shown you how much you were regening your driving efficiency and distance driven since last charge.
Happy New Year. 🥳
This was done in August. Eco+ for the most part.
'have', it's 'have' - ffs......!!
Good on you lads !
Awesome work there EVM. Disappointed that your butler wasn't wearing black tie and tails. :)
If a Daily Mail reporter had tried that, they'd have called a truck to carry the depleted car back home.
Just for fairness, EDF also do an EV lease scheme called Go Electric.
Look forward to seeing more in the new year.
Great video. How feasible would the NC500 be in a 24kW Leaf? I’d really like to give it a go
Possible but I'd plan to charge overnight at the accommodation more than using rapids. Don't want to do the NC500 in less than 5 days anyway, too much to see.
@@ElectricVehicleMan And I for one would agree with that.....
Brilliant what an adventure well done lads
Did you use the petrol range extender if so how many miles did you use it for
Doesn’t have one.
Electric Vehicle Man sorry just heard you say that on the video, that’s very impressive
Nice one chaps! But you are spoilt with your range. I’ve documented a few trips like you guys on my channel. My little 60ah i3! Love it 👍🏼
August! I was wondering why it wasn't dark after work and why at 6am it was so light and no snow around, now it makes sense.
Now do it with a couple of kids fighting in the back at every charge station :P
Do you think the NC500 is do-able in a Renault Twizy?
Done 200 miles in a day in the Twizy so anything is possible.
What kw is the battery and what's the range?
Great video guys......what charge station info map do you use?
In this case we didn’t.
Paul Moy
PlugShare and Zap-Map are probably the two most widely used in the U.K.
I use PlugShare myself usually.
Thanks Kardy.....I am about to be an electric car owner and was interested in information about chargers for when I make longer journeys......Many thanks.
Perfect job evm how much do you charge ? I have an i3
Regards
Bob H.
It looks like the great Scotish weather. My wife is from Ayr.
16 hours in the beemer. If you delete the charge time how long would it have taken? Not being negative, just curious.
14 ish maybe.
You could probably knock a few hours off in a high-range EV like a Tesla, but who cares? From watching this video it seems the stops are more fun than the driving!
Wow, just amazing how quickly you did that. I know you've done a more relaxed drive of the NC500 but would love to see it more if you can and even if you did a road trip video style and 30-60min video or multiple parts if you ever get a chance. Hope you got sleep at the end of it for both of you. Thanks for a great video, just abit slower/longer would be good if you can ever swing it of course.
Nice! Wouldn't be possible in Wales yet, sadly. Well done Scottish Government!
Look the german elelectric dave driving in a challenge with five swiss teams from Hamburg to Nordkapp. He arrived it yesterday evening and today all teams drive there again. Also on the way back through Norway there will be many life streams.
Interesting challenge. Of course, any journey is possible with time and planning and if someone is doing a journey like that then they are unlikely to be in a huge rush, but, you could easily do that journey in well under 24 hours in a petrol or diesel car :)
Interesting. I’ve heard of range anxiety now I wonder about charger anxiety. When we have a proper network to cope with the change over I’ll consider a fully electric car.
Angel Adams was once famously asked by a visitor at the entrance to Yosemite what to do because she had only a few hours, and his answer was “cry”. I feel the same for tackling the truly magnificent NC500 in such a rush. Well done though- it was my first thought after getting my model 3 for a road trip.
Done the NC500 5 times in 2 years so not missed out.
@@ElectricVehicleMan ...and hopefully you both did much to dispel the long distance myth and introduced the '500 to some new people. Keep up this sort of quality vid
What happens if you are at the limit of your range and the charger isn't working or is incompatible? A night in a hotel where they might allow you to charge it overnight? A call to the AA for a tow to the next charger? That would do my box in tbh. Thanks for the honesty, you could have glossed over the non functioning charging points, it highlights that the network is still patchy and that the best policy is to plan a long journey in an EV meticulously, so you don't find yourself on the back of a recovery truck.
That puts distance to rest why don’t you go to France for your next long distance test great video as always keep up the good work 👍❤️😎
What car are you using for the challenge as you did not make it clear in the video.
The BMW i3 120Ah.
Literally been thinking about doing this in a 40kwh Zoe. Do you think we could get a similar result?
Easy.
@@ElectricVehicleMan I wouldn't even try it. Me and my partner attempted the NC500 this July due to how the sensitive the Zoe is to earth leakage detection/safety system. I had researched the route with several backups and none of the ChargePlaceScotland network would work besides the rare Polar network but they were 7 Kw posts. We had to abandon the car in Inverness and hire a car, due to arriving with 11 miles of range and trying to find a charger that would work. If it was not for a hotel kindly allowing us to use their 7 kW post I wouldn't have been able to drive back. Based on the experience from CPS posts I would not recommend doing the NC500 in the Zoe as you cannot trust them to work with the Zoe.Even the Ecotricty posts would not work, the only thing i could point it down to was the earthing was not amazing. However I would love to do it in any other BEV. The weird thing was it was as soon I crossed the border and when we drove back we literally did not have any problems with the charging networks here in England.
Electric Vehicle Man due to the useless Earthing system of the Zoe, I NEVER.... NEVER...now concentrate on this next word.....NEVER..... drive anywhere that requires us to use a public charger any more. We have owned our Zoe for just over 6 months and for the first couple of months we tried to drive from Brighton to lots of places but each time I tried to charge (I have several charge network RFID cards), I ALWAYS....without exception, ended up having to call the network operator to discuss remotely resetting their charger due to BCI warnings etc etc. Eventually, it became clear that if we travelled away from home for more than 50% of our charge, that we would need to be towed back. 50% of charge in Winter (even having to make this point pisses me off) is about 70 miles max! So we have a car that will allow us a range of 70 miles each way! So if Christopher Carr can’t use the first charger he finds because it won’t let him charge and the second one either doesn’t work or won’t allow a charge, what then?!
Wife has just got rid of her 22kw Zoe and bought the amazing 'self charging' Yaris hybrid.
considering a new EV? - look at the Model 3. did buy one in September . incredible in every way. could not be happier with that choice!
That plug in EV’s are the future
Whow that’s some going, don’t think I’ll emulate! but it shows it’s can be done, probably even easier in my Kona Electric. Just a shame we are still seeing faulty chargers, I just wonder if Tesla have similar problems with their chargers. Happy New year. Colin.
Richard Wood
It’s seems to be the case across the so call electric highway too. As you quite rightly say a disgrace when so many of us are trying to make a difference. Colin
Richard Wood
Exactly what I do, I’ve given up trying to use Ecotricity’s electric points as I’ve been let down so often. Instavolt is so easy. I’ve also changed my electricity supplier to Octopus 🐙 energy they have a Go tariff 4.8p per kWh between 00.30 & 04.30 for home charging. They give a £50 credit if you use the link.
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how mutch did it cost in all your charges though thats the case
Watch the whole video.
What a way to shut up those naysayers. Great job, the two of you.
You did this in August? Why so long to upload?
Kept it for mid winter watching ....😎
Good journey! I'm planning to drive from Suffolk to the south of Poland this summer in a 30kwh Leaf. Does anybody know what the charging network is like in Europe? Particularly the countries I'll be driving through, which are the Netherlands, Germany and Poland?
Check out some of Bjorn Nyland's road trips. He gives a good report on the charging infrastructure in Europe.
@@alaneasthope2357 Thanks. I love his channel, but he mainly focusses on driving in Norway where he lives (or lived before moving to Thailand). I would expect the charging network in Norway to be the best in all of Europe, as they have the highest proportion of electric vehicles. I wouldn't even be asking if I was going to do an EV trip around Norway. 😉
@@Pining_for_the_fjords He is on holiday in Thailand.
@@ghost70 Ok thanks. I don't always watch his videos to the end as they can be long.
He also does European road trips. ua-cam.com/video/l4tqpbKP7uI/v-deo.html This is the first of 7.
Most people forget that more than 100 years ago the first gasoline cars had to buy their fuel at the pharmacy in cans of 5L. See it now with the emergence of the electric charging points as before for the gasoline car, we get used to it.
Dropping with humour 😂😂
Awesome video mate. Would not suggest a career in stand up though.
Your dead cat actually looks like a cat! Great video again, thanks.
Great Video well done. Did the multi charging affect the charging speed of the i3
Didn't seem to.
Nick Jones
As long as the car as an active cooling system (which the i3 does) it shouldn’t affect the charging speed at all. If you don’t have one (e.g the Nissan Leaf or VW e-Golf), then multiple recharges would likely result in throttling to avoid overheating the battery.
Think this a challenge. Try driving to Barrow in Furness, Cumbria, at the end of the longest cul de sac in England. Think now getting first EV charger installed at Tesco??. Many a poor EV driver has been seen pushing their car back the 40 miles to the M6 Motorway!!!
Thanks to electrify America, I could road trip my Bolt EV to my parents place in GA from Texas. Unfortunately it might cost as much as or more than flying and it would be pretty exhausting. I'd be interested in doing the math on that journey.
Hi guys, so here is a challenge: Recreate this drive in an EV: ua-cam.com/video/VIdNcbsgOiM/v-deo.html Suggest you chat with Harry, he's really approachable.
Really good video. So something like a Kia e Niro would be quicker as less charging would be
Not necessarily, as a bigger battery takes longer to fill. Check out "Out Of Spec Motoring". He only charges his Tesla in the fast part of the charging curve and has shorter journeys than those who wait for a full charge.
The charging network in Scotland must be pretty good. I’ve tried to use two non Tesla rapid chargers, one in Lyme Regis and one in Godalming. Both failed. The Tesla network has been problem free, thankfully.
Chris Abbott my friend in England with an EV says that the charging network in Scotland is better maintained than in England so you have a much better chance of finding a working charger. Plus, the Scottish Government seem to have put in investment to encourage the installation of chargers. You really need both these aspects to have a good EV experience.
David Watson Absolutely right. And yes I’ve heard a lot of good things about the network in Scotland.
Having done the west part ( far better than the NC 500 proper) Fort William to Durness via Plockton and Applecross etc many times. I’ve been watching charge points closely as the dream to do it in either and model 3 or Y and back to Glasgow. Sticky point seems to be near Durness as it’s hit and miss. Nice seeing Applecross and the pass. Done it mostly under blue sky but have done the pass in thick fog. Sorry did you say this was done in August ? The trouble is in the summer you couldn’t do a EV road trip with friends. I’ve done it with 17 other cars in our group, we turned the Ullapool garage into a car park till we all filled up. Why no Durness charger is that because it’s not worked in nine months.... Durness needs a charging hub sorted but us Scots will get there.
Brutal driving as I’ve usually done it usually over 3 days. Just to add I know you were in a rush but would have been nice checking places like Durness and reporting what you found. This route would catch EV drivers out if they didn’t watch. I’ve done Ullapool to Inverness with a Stop for the night at Tongue on one tank of fuel having brimmed at Ullapool. Got to Inverness with the computer saying 5 miles left in the tank, but then I wanted a Shell garage 😁. Once you can do the same in a EV it’s a no brainer.
As I’ve said the dream is Model 3/Y, Summer blue sky’s, free Scottish charging from Glasgow to Tongue and back following the west coast. Don’t think we are that far off👍
Well, this is fascinating - I've never heard of ANYONE doing an 18 car convoy road trip EVER.........!!!
That's the whole point of the stunningly beautiful NC500 route, you will stop so many times, to take in the views and scenery, that using a fully electric vehicle is not the best solution.
If the weather is especially cold and harsh, then range of the batteries will diminish considerably.
You simply do not rush the NC500, and if you do, its a wasted journey.
Done it many times in an EV. Weather doesn’t make that much difference.
Seriously impressed. I'm too chicken to drive from Worcestershire to Fife in my 30 kWh Leaf , I use my wife's ICE instead. I feel exceptionally lame now.
well done.
How many km?
Salem Azzam I’m sure you can do the maths yourself!
So when the police say not to drive while tired?
Hence there was 2 of us taking shifts and sleeping in between.
I have an idea for a challenge...... see what the New Year brings
My VW TDI turbo diesel gets 50 miles to the gallon. Fuel in US is $2.70 a gallon diesel. 1,400 miles is $75 usd cost. Driving time 28 hours (70 mph). With range of 700 miles one fuel stop, 10 min including bathroom break.
Good luck doing 70mph on those roads. Forgetting the max speed limit of 30-60 on most did you not see the video? Oh and when was the last time you drove 28 hours with a 10minute break? It doesn’t happen in the real world! We slept overnight too so try a realistic comparison.
@@ElectricVehicleMan You're making straw man arguments. I get it you are on slower roads and did not say I would drive 28 hours straight (with out a 2nd driver). My point is my TDI Diesel blows away an electric car in a cross-country trip. As far as speed, typical speed on American freeways is 70 mph
(112 kph). I just did a 650 mile trip in one day on one tank. My trip computer average, 67 mph, that's including stop for bathroom. Total time 9.7 hrs. I also own a 2015 Nissan Leaf, great for short commutes to work, running errands around town. EV's are not practical cross-country cars by any means. That is my point.
1, depends on the EV
2, Never said it wasn’t quicker, just proving it’s easily doable.
3, Quicker yes but a lot more expensive.
@@ElectricVehicleMan 20£ is very inexpensive for such a journey. I bought a project car, Renault Fluence ZE, that has no battery. I already bought a ZE40 battery pack from a 2019 Zoe. Should finish upgrading it in about 2 months time. The idea is to add CHAdeMO charging capability as well. My question to you is, how popular is this standard in UK?
Very at the moment but CCS is the European standard.
Good video guys, you probably should disclose why you chose this rural route as the Scottish government has greatly supported the EV charging infrastructure make this journey possible. This would not be possible in Wales or many parts of England
Look out Grand Tour boys ,
BUT... the lease on this i3 from Octopus has an ANNUAL mileage limit of 5000 miles. You did 1400 miles in 2 days! Hardly a great advert for the Octopus leasing deals. Can't fault the car though.
Then you change your mileage limit! 🤔
Let's point out that you selected a vehicle with a pretty limited range and that many chargers that didn't work forced you to charge "just in case" when you could, so stopping more often and charging the partially full battery, which is slower. In, say, Tesla Model 3 LR or Hyundai Kona EV you would have to charge once, perhaps twice, at a much higher speed. So, you were _not_ trying to make it look easier than reality.
I like your travel-size salt and pepper mills :o)
Umm, did you say this was done in August? As in, you know, summer, sun, sweltering weather...
Happy New Year!
Very fair qualifying comments on this trip and vehicle choice - thanks for making them. However, as someone tentatively exploring full EV ownership, it's that "charger not working/software glitch/won't read my card etc.etc." thing that I find a real downside.
Some very funny in-car catering jokes there I agree and, as for the weather - welcome to the Scottish summer... glorious scenery in warm rain :-).
Your next challenge, should you accept it, will be to go the Fully Charged Live event in May, all of 250 miles south in Farnborough AND no cheating by taking the Mini
Yep we've just done Germany from Mid Wales in a 2015 Nissan Leaf 24 no problems and it took about as twice as long as would of taken in a ice car, but then we were in no hurry. As for 'reg 4 miles regen give you 10 recharged miles', I don't think so guys, unless your falling off a cliff!!! lol
Who said that?
Electric Vehicle Man , sorry mate but you did at 9:30 prox!