What do we think about this new dungeon? I updated the title.. let's get unhinged edit: it seems Xivu isn't in control of the lucent hive at all? Look I try my best to break down what is being said, but even I'm getting lost in the story so let me go off of what people were saying here. "Xivu definitely isn't responsible for what happened in this dungeon, in the final lore entry, it makes it clear that she leaves Oryx, maybe she tried and failed to bring him back with necromancy, but she definitely isn't in control of the Lucent, she's at war with them. Just because Savathûn isn't alive, doesn't mean she didn't give the order to do this before she died, they were just waiting for Titan to return." what do you think? The logs can be pretty vague at times
Honestly best dungeon we've had for a while. Decent challenge, good looking armour Its the one thing i've seen since witch queen release thats given me some hope that destiny 2 can improve, and still has the same magic i first felt back when i started in forsaken
I honestly dont think Xivu Arath had anything to do with the Lucsent Hive attempting to resurrect Oryx. She clearly wants to follow Oyrx's dreak of the Final Shape, and is obsessed with him. Oryx hated the light and necromancy, so i doubt shed approve of a plan using both to bring him back.
She wouldn't, the lucent brood are likely attempting to do so themselves. Xivu only came to titan to mourn, as the final audio log indicates. The wraithborne seem to just be there as a form of honour guard. Savathûn gained the knowledge of hive necromancy way back in season of Arrivals. Considering the Arcology is Oryx's final resting place, it explains why Savathûn set up so much of her brood there. She probably had the plan to bring him back with necromancy and/or via a ghost before becoming risen herself. The part where Xivu likely recites something Savathûn said to enact the invasion of the canal homeworld; I believe this is Xivu calling her sister wrong because we, and more imprlortantly Rasputin, didn't take the bait of participating in her ritual of war. In this we drove her back a step, as she puts it. But she's taken solace in that the Witness was able to connect the Veil with the Traveller and begin enacting the Final Shape. The feeling both sisters are likely experiencing is regret brought on by nostalgia, regret that they can no longer share peaceful & loving time spent with their siblings. The closest they were able to get to that since becoming the hive was killing, and killing for, one another. It's rather tragic really.
Probably but there is one of the calcified memories that suggest her considering the “heresy” of light and necromancy to raise Oryx so let’s not completely discount it as a possibility.
@@jetwayjesus the lore collectible make it seem like she deeply loved her brother, to an unhealthy obsession (by human standards). Not only that, but Oryx wouldnt remember anything if he was rezzed as a guardian.
@@colvamoon6962 touché . I forgot about that. Savathun behind it? Wasn’t she the one behind motivating Nokris to study necromancy even tho it was forbidden?
15:37 "praxis" means test a theory in practice, by doing it or applying it. So what Xivu is saying (as far as I understand) is she's going to test her own ideology and power of the Sword Logic and Darkness by the Worms, against Savathun's "heretical" usage of the Light
@@heroicxidiot I did and it only came up with fallen boss, hence why I put it in the video, maybe one small detail slip isn't the biggest deal in a 30+ min video with a ton of moving parts
I LOVE the atmosphere and aesthetic and even the mechanics, literally the only issue is how tanky the bosses are, even then its really only the final boss (and her stupid moth attack and constant teleportation)
I had no issue with having difficult bosses with a lot of health, and these bosses didn't have much health if you used meta dps loadouts, like I was able to 3 phase both bosses with an lfg team.
The interesting part of the audio logs is in my opinion that we see Sivu kinda struggling you know, when she talked to us she were always this confident God and now we hear her struggling because of the death from oryx.
Work persona and well family persona I mean technically back then her species were more people like with feelings and emotions not a 100% geared toward death. Lore wise they are happy to die in a way because technically your killing weakness and they don’t like weakness. But that doesn’t mean lay down and die
I think Xivu is perhaps afraid that a being that would usually get annihilated by the hive took her brother down. We have to remember Crota slew thousands of guardians and gave them their final deaths. So for us to just come along out of nowhere, kill Crota and then Oryx must've been a huge woah moment for her.
I think when she says she had a blade to our throat and we slipped passed her was Season of the Seraph, where she could have used the Warmind system to empower herself and attack The Traveler, but then Rasputin killed himself and destroyed the Warmind and thus thwarted her plans.
I had never done a day 1 of anything but my friends and I got through it very easily, though we did get disconnected. We only wiped one time total. I loved this dungeon.
My day dungeon took 4 hours. We would accidentally progress the mechanics but not realize how we did it (slow learners) Second run, after watching a couple videos and we did it in 2hrs, but spent time going after the collectibles on the way through. Pretty sure we could do it in a little over an hour now we understand more about how to set up the DPS phases
"Praxis" is putting a theoretical concept into practice (often used today in the context of ethics to mean practicing what you preach). Remember that Bungie loves using wordplay when naming their characters - Praksis, the Technocrat, was the one tasked with putting theories of Darkness and Stasis into practice as tangible technology. Xivu Arath is not referring to Eramis's lieutenant Praksis, but to _praxis,_ the concept he was named after.
20:38 Here she’s referring to the final mission in Sereph. The boss of that mission was a Wizard champion of Xivu Arath’s brood named Scourge of Earth. Hive only name champions Scourge of [] when they believe that Hive will be the one to drive a species to extinction. However as we all know, We were successful in stopping the Warsats.
Xivu had nothing to do with trying to resurrect Oryx. The fact that after the boss fight we get an audio log that says she's not visiting his grave again I think Imaru was behind all this. Plus Savathun has resurrected all of Oryx's allies so it would make sense she's trying to assemble a light court for him to come back to
From someone who doesn't play the game anymore and just follows videos like this to keep up with lore and the community I loved it from a viewers perspective. Can't wait to see the story ramifications from all this. Thanks for the content as always! 💚
@@theSixPathsOfTrains I've got too much going on in life right now. Newborn daughter, growing YT channel, homeschooling my sons. I just don't have the time unfortunately. I've been playing since D1 launched. I'll never truly leave the community. Keep my seat warm. I'll be back
i love this dungeon. perfectly captures the "mini raid" style of dungeons. felt very fun with friends for the first run through, i can see myself farming this fairly painlessly
I like we get to fight caption hive sparrow. guardian: you failed to save your king as his sword, died to then switched sides to his sister and gained the power of light. You are the worst hive I've ever heard of. Echthar: but you have heard of me. 😏
20:50 I can't be sure, but I think she's refering to how we managed to prevent her summoning during the Season of the Seraph. Remember how acts of war are used to summon her and during the season of the Sreraph we stopped ourselves from using the power of the Warmind to fight our enemies which would have summoned her and her armies from the Ascendant Plane.
8:12 It's actually quite interesting to hear that Xivu seems legitimately angry with us for not "Taking" Oryx's place on the throne after killing him. It's an interesting speculation if Xivu would of followed us if we had taken up that power for ourselves.
That intro was an absolute masterpice Evan. You just proved that the community is the very heart of Destiny (and not the eververse as Bungie thinks). You got talent bro
Imagine how pissed Oryx would have been if he learn that he was resurrected by necromancy(which he banished his own son Nokris for practicing) and the Light(the very thing that killed him and his son Crota)
But then again he will not have his memories back so maybe the hive ghost is gonna tell him to follow savathun's path to fight the witness, imagine oryx vs the witness
I personally love the underwater jumping puzzle. Going down this huge tower, looking up and seeing the dim lights of the arcology. I'm a sucker for long jumping puzzles because there is a ton of visual storytelling to get you ready for an encounter.
I would say that Xivu arath likely doesn’t didn’t have anything to do with oryx’s attempted resurrection. The current commander of the lucent hive is savathun’s ghost immaru who likely commanded the hive to attempt to resurrect oryx. Xivu actively condemns her sister’s use of the light and is still allied with the witness. The calcified the fragments probably have her because she has frequently visited this place to mourn oryx.
The second to last log is likely based around Season of The Seraph where Xivu should have won. Either, we used the Warsats against her, tithing to her for her to invade Earth, or they used the Warsats against the Traveler, likely destroying it and still invading Earth. Rasputin’s Sacrifice was the only possible way to beat Xivu without Tithing to her enough for her to open the portal
To 15:37 Praxis is the process by which a theory, lesson, or skill is enacted, embodied, realized, applied, or put into practice. "Praxis" may also refer to the act of engaging, applying, exercising, realizing, or practising ideas That is not a typo And Praksis's name is just a "speaking" name, a literary device often used in children's books for example, to convey something without actually telling The dude was the technocrat, as you can remember
Normally love these full scope videos, but half way through I was trying not to turn red. Yes I’m a super big hive lore-obsessed d1 veteran. Hearing speculation that the Witness’ (current) primary disciple had light forces, when Savathun had expressed (albeit in obscurity) hints at her plans to resurrect her brother before she even became a lightbearer, plans that Immaru woud know and could fulfill, cut right into my soul. And praxis is an actual word, more or less meaning to apply philosophical theory to real practice.
I kind of felt the same. So many inaccuracies, and not knowing that the blade at our Throat was the Season of the Seraph. Evan needed to let this video cook more.
Second to last audio log, Xivu had us cornered during season of seraph, either way whether we used the warmind or Eramis did she won, so we destroyed the warmind “slipped past her guard” and now the witness has entered the traveler, the final shape coming closer.
"What is this feeling? I don't want it!" That's a line from the Hawkmoon loretab, from back in Season of the Hunt. It sounds like Xivu is actually retelling that very loretab.
Oh, also, 16:01 I'm pretty sure Xivu Arath literally meant the actual meaning of Praxis here, which is synonymous to "practice" (not entirely from what I know). So she probably meant, she wants to test the Hive's "sword logic" against Savathun's own understanding of light.
We became allies with the Fallen in the House of Light, allies with the Cabal with the Empress Caital. No Vex can be befriended. The only way we could ally with the Hive would be with Savathun, but her Ghost would have to change from Immaru to Fynch.
there is actually a vex hydra hiding out in the neomuna cloudark from the rest of the vex. I think that was the whole point of the winterbite exotic mission
I'm unconvinced that there's no possibility of allying with some Vex. There's some lore that suggests there's factionalism within them, where Praedyth sees the mossy Vex in the Vault of Glass fighting with others, and notes that the other Vex seem scared of the Vault Vex.
I don’t think xivu is responsible for the lucent hives actions in this dungeon, she talks about how we do her work for her by fighting savathun and her forces, besides. Resurrecting oryx would be against oryx’s and xivus ideologies of the sword logic. I just think the lucent hive was trying to recruit oryx with the absence of savathun
Me and my friends did this at about 4AM, and we were so tired at the end that we forgot to kill the ghost. It doesnt reswpawn the boss at full HP, but at around 1/4th
If you wanna talk about World building we were literally in space and not on complained about that but when you add slow physics to a dungeon that's farmable and it last at least 10 minutes that can get very annoying and feels bad.
Well I can honestly say I am proud of you for learning a new word brother. Praxis is a great word. Evan I mean no ill feeling it's just that you have to appreciate it the community trying to help you. Listen Joker from Darkside Royalty Lore usually deals with all of this, and man can you be assured you can learn something from him. Love you.
18:57 On my run, it was only me and a random on this boss and honestly, Condicional Finality was doing a better job then Acrius on both DPS and ammo availability.
In the final fight, my Fireteam didn’t realize we could get all 3 Hive Runes to pop up one at the same time. We thought we had to get one up, kill the Lucent Hive and come back before we could get the next one. So basically we made the whole encounter last 3 times longer than it needed to. We also didn’t realize that all three rune locations had the anti-shield buff pool, and just stayed in the one where we started damage phase, and would get melted by boss and bare do any damage. Second run through with that knowledge and the it was way easier. Still don’t like the immunity shields, but now we have the tactics down better could probably 2-3 phase Knight Boss, and 3-4 Phase the Wizard Boss.
Hey brother, great video 🤙 btw I just wanted to clear this up. (PRAXIS) means- the practice of beliefs as one understands them and/or an accepted practice So basically, when Xivu says "It's time to test theory from praxis", she's saying its time to test theories from the practice of The Deep aka The Sword Logic
I like it. It is one of my favorite dungeons, but the health on the last boss is insane, soloing it takes a long time with the bulk of it being on that final encounter because of the boss' health
What would be fun to see is Xivu Arath realizing that her sibligns had been tricked all this time. And that in reality, their true enemy had been the Witness. Savathun once said that though it's hard to believe, everything they all did was for the sake of their family. If we look at it in a Hive's POV. Oryx's death and Savathun's betrayal are like proofs that the "sword logic" they follow might not be absolute. Xivu Arath is the one who would be the most affected by these revelations. Iirc, in the book of sorrows, it was her that tried to convince her sisters to turn back after the Leviathan warned them, showing that she truly does value her sisters. We thought she hated Savathun because Savathun betrayed the 'darkness', but now it's clear that Xivu Arath was angry at Savathun because to her, it was like Savathun tainted the existence of their dead brother. But, if she were to learn the whole truth, including the Witness's lies, she might still not work with us, but I can see her going on a rampage to reach the Witness; and prove herself as the mightiest warrior in her own way.
Savathun already knew before if you read the book of sorrow logs she had the most suspicions and it’s quite obvious she knew first for she was the most cunning at the time
God I actually feel sorry for Xivu... I expected her to be some harden War monster hellbent on our destruction But those audio logs man....shes actually hurt and sad and actively mourning Oryx that's not something I'd ever thought a Hive especially the Hive god of war to do I hope we somehow become allies with her man
If you read the book of sorrows logs when they become the hive god pain/sorrow becomes a form of love that’s why they liked fighting and attempting to kill each other
What do we think about this new dungeon?
I updated the title.. let's get unhinged
edit: it seems Xivu isn't in control of the lucent hive at all? Look I try my best to break down what is being said, but even I'm getting lost in the story so let me go off of what people were saying here.
"Xivu definitely isn't responsible for what happened in this dungeon, in the final lore entry, it makes it clear that she leaves Oryx, maybe she tried and failed to bring him back with necromancy, but she definitely isn't in control of the Lucent, she's at war with them. Just because Savathûn isn't alive, doesn't mean she didn't give the order to do this before she died, they were just waiting for Titan to return."
what do you think? The logs can be pretty vague at times
My new favorite Dungeon.
Better then Spire of The Watcher
Looks beautiful
Honestly best dungeon we've had for a while. Decent challenge, good looking armour
Its the one thing i've seen since witch queen release thats given me some hope that destiny 2 can improve, and still has the same magic i first felt back when i started in forsaken
meh it’s ok
I honestly dont think Xivu Arath had anything to do with the Lucsent Hive attempting to resurrect Oryx. She clearly wants to follow Oyrx's dreak of the Final Shape, and is obsessed with him. Oryx hated the light and necromancy, so i doubt shed approve of a plan using both to bring him back.
She wouldn't, the lucent brood are likely attempting to do so themselves.
Xivu only came to titan to mourn, as the final audio log indicates.
The wraithborne seem to just be there as a form of honour guard.
Savathûn gained the knowledge of hive necromancy way back in season of Arrivals.
Considering the Arcology is Oryx's final resting place, it explains why Savathûn set up so much of her brood there.
She probably had the plan to bring him back with necromancy and/or via a ghost before becoming risen herself.
The part where Xivu likely recites something Savathûn said to enact the invasion of the canal homeworld;
I believe this is Xivu calling her sister wrong because we, and more imprlortantly Rasputin, didn't take the bait of participating in her ritual of war.
In this we drove her back a step, as she puts it. But she's taken solace in that the Witness was able to connect the Veil with the Traveller and begin enacting the Final Shape.
The feeling both sisters are likely experiencing is regret brought on by nostalgia, regret that they can no longer share peaceful & loving time spent with their siblings.
The closest they were able to get to that since becoming the hive was killing, and killing for, one another.
It's rather tragic really.
Probably but there is one of the calcified memories that suggest her considering the “heresy” of light and necromancy to raise Oryx so let’s not completely discount it as a possibility.
Unless she did it to piss oryx off knowing he would wake up and attack her, making that an act of war, in term strengthening her? Maybe?
@@jetwayjesus the lore collectible make it seem like she deeply loved her brother, to an unhealthy obsession (by human standards). Not only that, but Oryx wouldnt remember anything if he was rezzed as a guardian.
@@colvamoon6962 touché . I forgot about that. Savathun behind it? Wasn’t she the one behind motivating Nokris to study necromancy even tho it was forbidden?
15:37 "praxis" means test a theory in practice, by doing it or applying it. So what Xivu is saying (as far as I understand) is she's going to test her own ideology and power of the Sword Logic and Darkness by the Worms, against Savathun's "heretical" usage of the Light
You'd think he would at least look up what praxis could mean
Lol it was so funny when he was speculating who Praxis is instead of what it is
Weird he didn't catch that and just immediately went to the thought it was a typo
@@sladevalen it's what happens when you rush to get a video out about the dungeon a day after it's release
@@heroicxidiot I did and it only came up with fallen boss, hence why I put it in the video, maybe one small detail slip isn't the biggest deal in a 30+ min video with a ton of moving parts
I LOVE the atmosphere and aesthetic and even the mechanics, literally the only issue is how tanky the bosses are, even then its really only the final boss (and her stupid moth attack and constant teleportation)
I thought it was a her lol
@@Demon-nu7ht I think when you activate the ritual ground it says a "he" idk I wasn't paying that much attention
@@azathoth550 that's probably referring to Vorlog, the knight
@@beatman2359 probably
I had no issue with having difficult bosses with a lot of health, and these bosses didn't have much health if you used meta dps loadouts, like I was able to 3 phase both bosses with an lfg team.
The interesting part of the audio logs is in my opinion that we see Sivu kinda struggling you know, when she talked to us she were always this confident God and now we hear her struggling because of the death from oryx.
I found that cool too.
Work persona and well family persona
I mean technically back then her species were more people like with feelings and emotions not a 100% geared toward death.
Lore wise they are happy to die in a way because technically your killing weakness and they don’t like weakness. But that doesn’t mean lay down and die
I listened to the lore bits and immediately thought “you gotta chill”
I think Xivu is perhaps afraid that a being that would usually get annihilated by the hive took her brother down. We have to remember Crota slew thousands of guardians and gave them their final deaths. So for us to just come along out of nowhere, kill Crota and then Oryx must've been a huge woah moment for her.
I think when she says she had a blade to our throat and we slipped passed her was Season of the Seraph, where she could have used the Warmind system to empower herself and attack The Traveler, but then Rasputin killed himself and destroyed the Warmind and thus thwarted her plans.
Guardian: "Didn't you die"
Lucent Oryx: "Sadly yes... But I lived"
Cayde
🤣
I wanted to see him get risen just to see how it would all unfold he dives out of the ocean in wings of dawn. Lol
Lol
In a way, I'm kinda sad we succeeded. Lucent Oryx would've been a incredible turn in the story.
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Fr. It would
the xivu voice actor is incredible she did an outstanding job
This dungeon was pretty easy to learn and pretty fun when I did it day one
I had never done a day 1 of anything but my friends and I got through it very easily, though we did get disconnected. We only wiped one time total. I loved this dungeon.
My day dungeon took 4 hours. We would accidentally progress the mechanics but not realize how we did it (slow learners)
Second run, after watching a couple videos and we did it in 2hrs, but spent time going after the collectibles on the way through.
Pretty sure we could do it in a little over an hour now we understand more about how to set up the DPS phases
i did a day 1 for this dungeon as a redemption for the issues like me needing to leave early on RON day 1 and such.
Me and my friends was confused on the final boss. Lol
Easy to learn but tedious af for my lfg, 3 titans are not ideal apparently
"Praxis" is putting a theoretical concept into practice (often used today in the context of ethics to mean practicing what you preach). Remember that Bungie loves using wordplay when naming their characters - Praksis, the Technocrat, was the one tasked with putting theories of Darkness and Stasis into practice as tangible technology. Xivu Arath is not referring to Eramis's lieutenant Praksis, but to _praxis,_ the concept he was named after.
20:38 Here she’s referring to the final mission in Sereph. The boss of that mission was a Wizard champion of Xivu Arath’s brood named Scourge of Earth. Hive only name champions Scourge of [] when they believe that Hive will be the one to drive a species to extinction. However as we all know, We were successful in stopping the Warsats.
Xivu had nothing to do with trying to resurrect Oryx. The fact that after the boss fight we get an audio log that says she's not visiting his grave again I think Imaru was behind all this. Plus Savathun has resurrected all of Oryx's allies so it would make sense she's trying to assemble a light court for him to come back to
It was sooooooo awesome to see Oryxs body after so many years of speculating where his body landed
I was really hoping he'd get revived as the boss fight or we got fooled and thinking we crushed the ghost when it was her ghost and we got played.
From someone who doesn't play the game anymore and just follows videos like this to keep up with lore and the community I loved it from a viewers perspective. Can't wait to see the story ramifications from all this. Thanks for the content as always! 💚
Well come on back and play. Friend
@@theSixPathsOfTrains I've got too much going on in life right now. Newborn daughter, growing YT channel, homeschooling my sons. I just don't have the time unfortunately. I've been playing since D1 launched. I'll never truly leave the community. Keep my seat warm. I'll be back
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Oof well all right. Friend lol
i love this dungeon. perfectly captures the "mini raid" style of dungeons. felt very fun with friends for the first run through, i can see myself farming this fairly painlessly
Its alright, grasp way better
@@alucard14763grasp is incredible except for the fallen shield encounter which really drags it down, still top 3 easily tho
I like we get to fight caption hive sparrow.
guardian: you failed to save your king as his sword, died to then switched sides to his sister and gained the power of light. You are the worst hive I've ever heard of.
Echthar: but you have heard of me. 😏
@@alucard14763 grasp is bottom 2 dungeons 💀
@@10rio dawg, bottom two are shattered throne and pit.
crazy how now the final expansion loops back to Xivu Arath's reference of the "Final Shape"
LOVED this dungeon (Except transition from 1 to 2 cuz it was a lil too long but nice to look at) and the boss room is dope. Armor is sick asf too
20:50
I can't be sure, but I think she's refering to how we managed to prevent her summoning during the Season of the Seraph.
Remember how acts of war are used to summon her and during the season of the Sreraph we stopped ourselves from using the power of the Warmind to fight our enemies which would have summoned her and her armies from the Ascendant Plane.
THIS UPLOAD TIKE IS CRAZY! CREATING WHOOE VIDEO WSSAYS BASICALLY IN A DAY LIKE TIS NOTHING HIGGEST QUALITY! LOVE YOU!
Oryx getting turned into TWO weapons will be remembered forever
When yiur such a bad ass boss you get turned into 2 exotic weapons
8:12 It's actually quite interesting to hear that Xivu seems legitimately angry with us for not "Taking" Oryx's place on the throne after killing him.
It's an interesting speculation if Xivu would of followed us if we had taken up that power for ourselves.
That intro was an absolute masterpice Evan. You just proved that the community is the very heart of Destiny (and not the eververse as Bungie thinks). You got talent bro
the immediate biochock reference couldn't be appreciated more. that is so awesome
Imagine how pissed Oryx would have been if he learn that he was resurrected by necromancy(which he banished his own son Nokris for practicing) and the Light(the very thing that killed him and his son Crota)
But then again he will not have his memories back so maybe the hive ghost is gonna tell him to follow savathun's path to fight the witness, imagine oryx vs the witness
I personally love the underwater jumping puzzle. Going down this huge tower, looking up and seeing the dim lights of the arcology. I'm a sucker for long jumping puzzles because there is a ton of visual storytelling to get you ready for an encounter.
I would say that Xivu arath likely doesn’t didn’t have anything to do with oryx’s attempted resurrection. The current commander of the lucent hive is savathun’s ghost immaru who likely commanded the hive to attempt to resurrect oryx. Xivu actively condemns her sister’s use of the light and is still allied with the witness. The calcified the fragments probably have her because she has frequently visited this place to mourn oryx.
So oryx is quite literally “sleeping with the fishes”.
The second to last log is likely based around Season of The Seraph where Xivu should have won. Either, we used the Warsats against her, tithing to her for her to invade Earth, or they used the Warsats against the Traveler, likely destroying it and still invading Earth. Rasputin’s Sacrifice was the only possible way to beat Xivu without Tithing to her enough for her to open the portal
this is one of the dungeons of all time
ALSO WHY TF DOES THE FINAL BOSS HAVE MORE HEALTH THAN NEZAREC
We cleared last night and had a total of over 10 million that’s nuts
Still a good dungeon tho I enjoyed it
@@levikhani3294 an amazing dungeon! Needs some major tweaks tho.
Like dam dungeon bosses don't need to feel like raid bosses. Lol
Fr 😭 I was running it and one of my teammates hit 7 mil, the other hit 2 mil, and I hit 1.9 mil and I was on Div
To 15:37
Praxis is the process by which a theory, lesson, or skill is enacted, embodied, realized, applied, or put into practice. "Praxis" may also refer to the act of engaging, applying, exercising, realizing, or practising ideas
That is not a typo
And Praksis's name is just a "speaking" name, a literary device often used in children's books for example, to convey something without actually telling
The dude was the technocrat, as you can remember
Only one ive done day 1 period. I lost it when I saw Oryx and his theme played softly in the backround
Normally love these full scope videos, but half way through I was trying not to turn red. Yes I’m a super big hive lore-obsessed d1 veteran. Hearing speculation that the Witness’ (current) primary disciple had light forces, when Savathun had expressed (albeit in obscurity) hints at her plans to resurrect her brother before she even became a lightbearer, plans that Immaru woud know and could fulfill, cut right into my soul. And praxis is an actual word, more or less meaning to apply philosophical theory to real practice.
I kind of felt the same. So many inaccuracies, and not knowing that the blade at our Throat was the Season of the Seraph. Evan needed to let this video cook more.
Second to last audio log, Xivu had us cornered during season of seraph, either way whether we used the warmind or Eramis did she won, so we destroyed the warmind “slipped past her guard” and now the witness has entered the traveler, the final shape coming closer.
"What is this feeling? I don't want it!"
That's a line from the Hawkmoon loretab, from back in Season of the Hunt. It sounds like Xivu is actually retelling that very loretab.
Praxis (noun)- practice, as distinguished from theory. Accepted practice or custom.
That’s what Xivu meant when she was talking about praxis.
Oh, also, 16:01 I'm pretty sure Xivu Arath literally meant the actual meaning of Praxis here, which is synonymous to "practice" (not entirely from what I know). So she probably meant, she wants to test the Hive's "sword logic" against Savathun's own understanding of light.
GOD I LOVE THIS MAN
Can we just take a moment to remember who really pays the bills for D2. The music team 😎
Also congrats on 330k you’re the man Evan 🎉❤
Relizing that a large portion of the video would just be collectibles audio logs makes this video subpar.
Absolutely nice work with the Bioshock reference, gotta love it!
That Bioshock bit was so funny. Well done!
I like the style of this video. The explanation and lore in the same video. Excellent job
20:49 she’s probably referring to the end of season of the Seraph. When we evaded her trap to cause a full invasion by using the warsat network
never clicked so fast mr evanf. This dungeon was amazing, thanks for the quick upload.
18:06 his name is Hector, anyone who says otherwise is kicked from my fireteam
22:33 Alright that little Wii clip of oryx getting thrown into bowling pins sent me to the fuckin sky lol
Dunno if anyone mentioned it yet, but when Xivu says "praxis" she means in practice or custom
Dude…Kimberly’s voice acting is EXACTLY how I’ve imagined Xivu would sound like! She is amazing😅
“I know you’re here, Oryx, you big fucking nerd. Where’s my goddamn money?”
Gives me "where's the money Lebowski" vibes
Can I just say, the VA for Xivu Arath did such a great job
Evan amazing stuff 😎❤
We became allies with the Fallen in the House of Light, allies with the Cabal with the Empress Caital. No Vex can be befriended. The only way we could ally with the Hive would be with Savathun, but her Ghost would have to change from Immaru to Fynch.
there is actually a vex hydra hiding out in the neomuna cloudark from the rest of the vex. I think that was the whole point of the winterbite exotic mission
@@lauzybro3660 but hes sleepy and waking him would be rude
I'm unconvinced that there's no possibility of allying with some Vex. There's some lore that suggests there's factionalism within them, where Praedyth sees the mossy Vex in the Vault of Glass fighting with others, and notes that the other Vex seem scared of the Vault Vex.
I don’t think xivu is responsible for the lucent hives actions in this dungeon, she talks about how we do her work for her by fighting savathun and her forces, besides. Resurrecting oryx would be against oryx’s and xivus ideologies of the sword logic. I just think the lucent hive was trying to recruit oryx with the absence of savathun
Did anybody think this mission was similar to the opening of 343 guilty spark from halo 1?
Your a great writter , your videos are truly some of the best keep up the good work
Ticuu's hipfire pops the moths so easily. It's my go to for that encounter.
I praise you for the rapture reference. I shed a damn tear
Me and my friends did this at about 4AM, and we were so tired at the end that we forgot to kill the ghost. It doesnt reswpawn the boss at full HP, but at around 1/4th
Btw evan,
the spot for the chest can be accessed from the outside when you jump down so you can enter the giant bubble dome.
It happened to us on the final boss. Nobody got to the ghost in time, he came back with just a small amount of health easily to 1 phase.
Lore wise I think she's referring to the witness going for the traveller (the heart)
People criticize the underwater as "slow walking," but imo it lends to the world building experience. I personally loved it.
If you wanna talk about World building we were literally in space and not on complained about that but when you add slow physics to a dungeon that's farmable and it last at least 10 minutes that can get very annoying and feels bad.
@@SirGuruu don’t farm the whole dungeon Tf? You farm one encounter buddy that’s how this goes. Don’t have to do the running part everytime.
@@SirGuruu yea… it really only works the first time. Doing it every single run wears thin quick
Exactly
easy to figure out, challenging bosses. great dungeon! and excelent content!
I'm a little late but I love that Bioshock "intro" at the beginning😂
The Best "Under The Sea" Experience Ever
the most exotic ad drop ever , loved it
This game has been my home for 10 years 🥲
For someone that couldn't pay for the dungeon yet having this video is a blessing
I appreciate the reference to bioshock at the beginning, bioshock definitely doesn’t get the love it deserves!
The failed wellskate 20:35 hits too close to home
this game has been my home for 9 years
Congrats on 300K!!!!!
Ofc you couldn't help but make a BioShock reference, but it was spot on so very nice.
Well I can honestly say I am proud of you for learning a new word brother. Praxis is a great word. Evan I mean no ill feeling it's just that you have to appreciate it the community trying to help you. Listen Joker from Darkside Royalty Lore usually deals with all of this, and man can you be assured you can learn something from him. Love you.
Evan starting off with both a Bioshock and Spongebob reference.
We're off to a great start.
18:57 On my run, it was only me and a random on this boss and honestly, Condicional Finality was doing a better job then Acrius on both DPS and ammo availability.
Praxis means to put into action one’s beliefs.
In the final fight, my Fireteam didn’t realize we could get all 3 Hive Runes to pop up one at the same time. We thought we had to get one up, kill the Lucent Hive and come back before we could get the next one. So basically we made the whole encounter last 3 times longer than it needed to.
We also didn’t realize that all three rune locations had the anti-shield buff pool, and just stayed in the one where we started damage phase, and would get melted by boss and bare do any damage.
Second run through with that knowledge and the it was way easier.
Still don’t like the immunity shields, but now we have the tactics down better could probably 2-3 phase Knight Boss, and 3-4 Phase the Wizard Boss.
Hey brother, great video 🤙 btw I just wanted to clear this up.
(PRAXIS) means- the practice of beliefs as one understands them and/or an accepted practice
So basically, when Xivu says "It's time to test theory from praxis", she's saying its time to test theories from the practice of The Deep aka The Sword Logic
That Bioshock/Spongebob intro was really good
I like it. It is one of my favorite dungeons, but the health on the last boss is insane, soloing it takes a long time with the bulk of it being on that final encounter because of the boss' health
What would be fun to see is Xivu Arath realizing that her sibligns had been tricked all this time. And that in reality, their true enemy had been the Witness. Savathun once said that though it's hard to believe, everything they all did was for the sake of their family. If we look at it in a Hive's POV. Oryx's death and Savathun's betrayal are like proofs that the "sword logic" they follow might not be absolute. Xivu Arath is the one who would be the most affected by these revelations. Iirc, in the book of sorrows, it was her that tried to convince her sisters to turn back after the Leviathan warned them, showing that she truly does value her sisters.
We thought she hated Savathun because Savathun betrayed the 'darkness', but now it's clear that Xivu Arath was angry at Savathun because to her, it was like Savathun tainted the existence of their dead brother. But, if she were to learn the whole truth, including the Witness's lies, she might still not work with us, but I can see her going on a rampage to reach the Witness; and prove herself as the mightiest warrior in her own way.
Savathun already knew before if you read the book of sorrow logs she had the most suspicions and it’s quite obvious she knew first for she was the most cunning at the time
OMG u quoted bioshock, never thought that this is possible in destiny vids, "would you kindly"
Destiny has been my home for 10 years I love this game so much
Can confirm , boss comes back with about 1/10th to 1/12th of his health bar , and we were laughing our heads off when it happened
OH MY GOD I LOVE THE INTRO, INTANT LIKE ❤
Congrats on 300k!
when the dungeon has better lore, mechanics, art direction, and difficulty than the DLC raid
🤣
But I still liked root of nightmares was a nice more relaxing raid.
Praxis Definition:
practice, as distinguished from theory.
"the gap between theory and praxis, text and world"
Very first time doing a day one dungeon, easily my favorite dungeon and its so much fun
"Praxis" is a fancy way of saying "Practice" since no one else commented on it.
Congrats on 300k
Imagine being so badass that taking the throne of the taken king is considered small peanuts
Just did this dungeon and I can say it is the hardest endgame activity I’ve done
My team did it in just under 3 hours. Mechanics we got down pretty quickly with each encounter but man were those bosses were chunky.
@@ehoffart529 we did it in 2-3 (wasn’t counting) and the final boss had 6 damage phases
Love the bioshock reference at the beginning
Congrats on hitting 300k 🎉
God I actually feel sorry for Xivu... I expected her to be some harden War monster hellbent on our destruction
But those audio logs man....shes actually hurt and sad and actively mourning Oryx that's not something I'd ever thought a Hive especially the Hive god of war to do
I hope we somehow become allies with her man
If you read the book of sorrows logs when they become the hive god pain/sorrow becomes a form of love that’s why they liked fighting and attempting to kill each other
Banger dungeon. Going for the master then the solo
Congrats on 300K🎉🎉🎉