I love when these two get together. They may disagree on a lot of things but they are always civil and always willing to have an open dialogue. If only more Americans could learn to do that.
@@kristenkidd3982 It wasn’t even that long ago that things were pretty civil…and getting better. But something happened. I have my opinions on what that was and other people have theirs, but things have deteriorated tremendously in the past 20 or so years.
They don’t disagree, bill has a facade to uphold. He is far more right leaning because hes old and not with the times anymore. American politics looked respectful before trump because trump isn’t a politician he’s plant used to divide America to slow them down. Americans especially in the Midwest and lower southern areas are apart of the lowest IQ demographic in the modern world and also the poorest in history since the early 20th century and they’re voting for a corrupt millionaire who had his supporters start an insurrection. Most Americans who voted for trump don’t know what that word means that’s why he’s in charge again
This is how it should be cause we're Americans we should be able to disagree. Msdnc is on the air w a " Psychologist" saying to cut off family ties because of politics. Smh. This is truly the left. They are the party of Intolerance.
Just look at the horrically racist names they feel free to use toward a black conservatives. You wanna see what the racially sensitive "party of tolerance" really thinks look at the names they throw around towards them, and it's not just race it's also sexuality and anyone who doesn't agree 100% with them. They call the founder of walk away a MAGOT. I'm sure we know the slur they're calling him. The most intolerant people always pointing their fingers screaming facist as they attack in a facist manner.
It's probably not a popular thought, but the fact that they can sit and enjoy each other's company but hate each other’s political views with a passion and disagree is refreshing to see. We need more of this in the world.
Yes, I'm crushed over the results but we made it the first time and covid aside nothing really effing changed through both administrations! Some of the coolest people in my life are conservative to even conspiracy theorists but I just agree to disagree and there is so much else in life that is beautiful to agree on!✌️
Just GREAT 🙏 They are disagreeing 90% of the time, but can have a respectful discussion and break out in laughter together… We as a society should learn from this and stop shouting at each other and respect different opinions 😎✊
Ben is happy to be civil to anyone that supports Israel. he doesn't care what you think of american presidents or america, but you HAVE to support Israel.
Great interview, fellas. They disagree on most things but here they laughed and were respectful to one another. The vicious way Americans treat each other is what's hurting us deeply. It's not who gets into office. We're human beings capable of compassion and civility but we've decided it's better to allow politicians to turn us into monsters. I've heard mean things come out of my own mouth, too. And, I've never heard Ben laugh that much!
the next cycle, any candidate who can't do this type of format will not succeed. (likely this cycle too, but next time all politicians will be doing these long format sit downs, unscripted)
As a romanian person, who lived under Nicolae Ceausescu's dictatorship in the seventies and eighties I know what dictatorship is. Bill - with all the respect - you have absolutely no idea. Saying that Trump is a dictator is ridiculous.
As a consistent watcher of both very entertaining. They both occasionally go cringe, but bright, articulate, and funny. Bill funnier. Ben brighter. Great show.
@@K1GBD 🙋🏽♀️ family of 5 here with 1 bathroom. Don't think I've peed in private in 19 years. 😁 Fortunately, 3 of the 5 are guys so they can at least pee off the porch (we're REALLY rural). 🤣
This did my heart good to watch this. I like Bill and Ben. I am politically moderate but lean more towards the right now and have left the Democrat Party but I still enjoy Bill he is someone who will hear out the other side and is someone you can have a nice convo and a laugh with regardless of some differences. The way it should be. Even if he does have Trump Derangement syndrome. This was heartening to watch days before another divided and controversial election where so many people think the sky will fall if their side doesn't win.
There's actually a really funny story behind how I got the name "That There Dancing Man", and what it can mean for both you and your family. People saw me dancing at a club in Tampa in 1998 and they were quite amazed at my ability to dance like there was no tomorrow...and so they just started calling me "That There Dancing Man"
👏👏👏 Bravo to you both, this was such a joy to watch! No shouting, just two very intelligent people on different sides of the political aisle, having a discussion and even sometimes finding common ground. I can’t say enough what a breath of fresh air it was to hear the two of you talk, and I certainly learned a new thing or two. Thanks for this video!
Loved this pod- the world(especially America) could use more of this- two guys, who differ on many issues, being able to sit down and converse like human beings without losing their shit.
No that's not true about agreeing on nothing . They agree on Hamas, terrorism, the good guys in the middle East, and the excesses of the far Left, particularly" woke" culture and identity politics, and the whole excesses of the campus world. The agents of the authoritarian governments here masquerading as free people want us to be at each other's throats.
Bill, I know you’ll probably never come right of center, but as someone on this ‘side’ I do have to thank you for being open to conversation like you are. We need more of it.
How about acknowledging the majority of people who are centrists and may be left leaning on some issues and right leaning on others. Or simply are a little left or right of center. We used to be able to get things done in this country because politicians were able to work with each other regardless of party. Now every issue has to be turned into grandstanding and a political talking point . Tired of the negative campaigning . Whatever happened to inspirational leaders?
I love it when Ben and Bill get together. You know you’re going to get honest points from both end of the spectrum. It’s so healthy and helpful for us all to see how to PROPERLY disagree with each other.
Except "all" of us don't need to be shown. I don't scream, "Nazi/graycist/grapist!!!" at my Democrat friends just because they vote blue. It is consistently one side that loses their 💩 & is fundamentally incapable of objectivity when it comes to Trump. Bill's still in the TDS group & can't debate Trump in good faith.
If Ben was honest he wouldn't be in the Trumper camp, he would be in the 'old-school' Republican camp that hates Trump because he is bad for pretty much everything they stand for. Religion, big business, traditionalism.
He's full of it ! No idea why the right compliments him for acknowledging lefist screw-ups. Dump Bill. I watched to see Ben, but didn't make it very far.
@garthkelly1668 - I think he's trying to embrace the MJ strategy of "Republicans watch TV too," calling out leftists. 😆 But I do find his contradictions annoying, to say the least. He touches on how the media lies and spreads misinformation. Yet he doesn't apply that same sentiment to Trump and believes every TDS facet. I find Maher a bit patronizing where he postures like an intellectual, but always does the "subject change" I touched on initially to avoid being cooked. So it's a bad faith style of debating. 💯
Thank you, gentlemen. I feel smarter having listened to this conversation! We desperately need more of this - finding areas of agreement, and disagreeing with respect.
If you’re mentioning perceived biases against Ben, I appreciate that you’re approaching this topic with an open mind. However, there’s an essential point to understand-this is who Ben genuinely is. He hasn’t altered his views or personality to fit the expectations of this show or its audience. The notable change, then, is not in him but in the fact that you have stepped outside of your own familiar perspectives to engage with his. It’s worth noting that this process of stepping beyond one's bubble is important on both sides of the political spectrum. I don't mean to imply that this is unique to one group, but it does seem that this type of openness is encouraged more frequently within conservative circles. The challenge and value of reaching across these divides cannot be overstated, especially as we all strive to understand others without sacrificing our own beliefs.
Maher HIDES it well, to be 'popular' with enough Lefty Pinko Commies , while pretending he is NOT a Trump HATER ! ( .... but Maher is scared SHIT-LESS that the Left will 'cancel' him ! )
Awesome interview. I recently got back from Thailand and Nepal on a missions trip and we are very blessed in America with a lot of comforts that can be taken for granted. Especially women!
BILL AND BEN CAN SIT DOWN AND DISAGREE WITHOUT FEAR OF ANY PUNISHMENT, THATS WHAT A DEMOCRACY IS 👍 IN A TRUMP DICTATORSHIP THIS SHOW WOULD BE OUTLAWED,THATS WHAT A DICTATORSHIP IS !!! BEN,HARD TO BELIEVE THAT YOU BELIEVE TRUMPS CONS ,LOOK WHAT HAPPENED WHEN BIBI BELIEVED SINWARS CONS , THOUGHT YOU WERE SMARTER THAN TO BELIEVE IN TRUMP🎗🎗💙💙💙🇮🇱🇮🇱🇺🇸🇺🇸🙏🙏👍👍
This is what free speech should look like. Good will, good faith, curious conversation between people with very different values and personalities. Love it!
There is a big difference between flying private because you can afford it and flying private because you are POTUS. I don't think Donald likes being potus to make a difference in the way things are done, he likes being potus because of the status.
@@tmlms1313 Yeah, he likes being smeared 24/7, being dragged through the mud along with his whole family, being investigated for just about everything the democrats can think of. He adores it when they try to shut down his businesses. Oh and the attempts on his life, he really REALLY can't get enough of those. 🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂
@@BitWreckerLol, the US taxpayer has been paying for the travel of presidents for generations. We paid for Clinton to fly in a plane, we paid for Bush to fly in a plane. We paid for Obama to fly in a plane. Why do you feel that MAGA should have to acknowledge that US taxpayers pay for the travel of sitting presidents?
This is one of the better shows. Drastically different points of view yet such a great, clam, and friendly discussion about each's views. Both fellas are smart as heck too. Ben is great !
@RoCmom113 Watch Ben Shapiro's latest Lex Friedman interview. Lex comments that he just saw Ben smoking a joint before he started the interview. Ben responds by saying, "I'm trying to keep that a secret" and Lex drops it. I'll try to find a timestamp for you in case you doubt me.
It's crazy how, a few years ago, I was a Bill Maher type of liberal. After Trump (and everything that came after him), I'm closer to a Ben Shapiro type of conservative. Wokeism killed the left.
@@kristenahubbard3338 you call Trump nuts, you say both parties are bad but yet you wanna vote for Nikki Haley who’s a warmonger do you actually do any research or do you just think you did? If trumps nuts nikki is death embodied.
@@kristenahubbard3338 Hang in there.. After Trump is done there will be really solid candidates like Desantis and Haley. I will say it seems impossible that you would want to vote for Haley but then would end up casting a ballot for Harris. Haley is much closer to Trump politically then she is to Harris.
This is a fantastic episode for so many reasons! It offers great dialogue, rich history lessons, valuable insights, and an impressive ability to logically and calmly discuss differing opinions. I would love to see more episodes featuring the two of you! I really appreciate how you both start from very different perspectives, yet find points of agreement by the end, while exploring each other's backgrounds and perspectives with respect. (Of course, both of you being highly educated and well-informed on these topics plays a big role in this.) Additionally, your good-natured interactions make the discussion even more engaging. Most importantly, the truths you discuss about civilizations, Israel, war, and the formation of America are incredibly informative and impactful. I believe this episode should be shown in schools across the country as a model on how to have respectful, productive discussions on a variety of topics with others that might have similar or different views than your own. It could also provide students with a reality check on how the world actually works and how America reached its current state of being, while showcasing the freedoms we enjoy and acknowledging no country is perfect, but America is closer to that ideal than most. GREAT JOB TO THE BOTH OF YOU!!!
This is EXACTLY how normal people act. Two people with ALOT of differences sit down and have civilized talk and not bashing or bantering each other. Thank you Bill and Ben for being great influences in a time of such chaotic status.
Where are all the normal people, then. I have a hard enough time talking to myself bc I AM indecisive and undecided. Seems I have to decide what to say to whom all the time, because most people are far more intolerant than I😮💨
@@markmaxwell1013 Are you aware that the proposed border legislation set a FLOOR of about 1.5 million illegal immigrants per year before any future POTUS would be allowed to act to slow or stop people from crossing the border illegally? That isn't workable. That was setting the last 3 years of record high illegal immigration as the new standard. That isn't even remotely close to trying to solve illegal immigration. That's mandating by law that the govt ignore the problem but not increase the number of legal immigration either. That bill was nonsense.
@@markmaxwell1013that “perfect bill” allowed amnesty and basically allowed 2 million illegals to enter the country, along with a few billion dollars to Ukraine for no reason
The country desperately needs more conversations like this. Both these guys are adequately knowledgeable about each sides differing view points. This is the only way forward. We can't keep hating half the country because we voted different.
@@I9IIEIIYIIEIIS trump calls all the democrats evil and said he'd use the military to lock them up. Sure we can appreciate this. But it's accurate to the reality were living in. Two guys who are removed from the common man acting like they have a clue about what lives normal people live.
The way Bill pulls emotion and relatability out of his polarizing guests is a talent that should be appreciated more. My opinion of Ben Shapiro has completely changed after this episode - and that's something I never thought I'd say. Thanks, Bill, for letting us be a part of this somewhat vulnerable conversation.
This is how Ben is. I'm glad you changed you opinion, this is why talking to people outside of your bubble is great. It's too easy to build a strawman of "the other side" when you don't interact with many people or much content from the other. This is true on both sides
Ben is always like this. You must not have listened to enough of his stuff or any other podcast he's done. Ben has literally done four episodes with Joe Rogan over the last seven years and every one was exactly like this.
He meanders, cuts people off, loses his train of thought and often veers into tangents that replace the interesting subject at hand. Annoying to hear him ask Tarantino a question I’d really like the answer to, and then jabber until the question is forgotten and never answered.
I just started watching, and I came to the comments to see if anyone else thought Bill was drunk/high. I literally checked to see if I accidentally set my playback speed at 0.75 because he was talking so slow! 😂
This is a perfect example of two people that have a lot of differences, but can still have a respectful and enjoyable conversation. I wish more people could do this…
@@3552paulette that's fine, maybe it's not ideal, but it's fine and normal. The problematic thing would be trying to shout above the other, getting angry at each other, or directly insulting each other. Changing the subject or steering a conversation towards a different topic? that's a normal conversation.
Bill has some cheek asking Ben would he admit he was wrong if it turns out that he is. Hello! Has he memory holed that he had Ben on his TV show and sneered and laughed at him, as did his audience, when Ben said he didn't believe Trump had conspired with Putin? I guess he has and it shows what a classy guy Ben is for not referencing it. Worth a watch if you haven't seen it.
@@dublinvids5146 and how many people around trump went to jail? I don't know why it would be. I don't know it wouldn't be. Trump admitted and denied russias interference.
@@WhoaBothis is actually kind of brilliant because you sewed just a minor seed of doubt. Now no one knows if this is real or if it’s not because who’s to say OP’s ex didn’t track him down and ask for the child support on UA-cam
when leftists like to claim that Trump likes Putin, it seems they don't understand the difference between a diplomatic relationship and a friendship. If you can't maintain a diplomatic relationship, how on earth can you discuss solutions going forward? If Trump reflected hate and disdain, Putin wouldn't have any reason to consider his possible solutions. He wouldn't even have a discussion with him.
I appreciate the civil conversation between two people with opposing views. Maybe one day we can all see each others side of things without having complete f’ing meltdown.
Not only did he not go after Hilary, Trump said no to it because he thought it would be bad for the country. In fact this is something a large population is pissed at him for not doing.
In other words.....it was another broken campaign promise to his supporters. He asked Barr to press charges against Biden 2 weeks before the 2020 election. Comey and McCabe (?-the guy who offered to wear a wire) suspiciously went through an intense IRS audit in the same year
that is a lie. he publicly pressured not one but TWO attorney generals to prosecute hillary. problem was, there wasn't anything to prosecute her for. and they told him that
They do work well together, I'd love to see a weekly 2 hour show with them. Like a new version of "Crossfire" arguing about sane right and left topics.
Really Bill? It doesn’t affect you when you car insurance doubled , your home insurance doubled , taxes have gone up on your home and food has almost doubled? You are so condescending to the majority of America.
And you don't think that hurricanes, fire and tornados have anything to do with insurance rates going up? Yet, Trump denies climate change and yet here are his supporters complaining about its trickle down effects. Smh. And, if people think taxes are too high ...quit voting for tax increases in levies.
What I like about Bill Maher is his ability to interact with people like Ben, who disagree on various points but can enjoy their company while making a strong effort to hel his audience better understand what makes them tick. I would have gotten a kick out of it if Bill had talked Ben into sharing a joint. That would get millions of views.
@@ttacking_you That's indeed the only acceptable kind of radical: a Ninja turtle! LOL! But a more serious point on it is how the shift in the Overton Window has caused previous moderates to appear radical now. Actually just made a video on that today.
100 percent right Ben…. Voting for what will help our family. I’m not getting caught up in the middle school dramatics of name-calling. I’m staying focused. All that is just white noise. I’m concerned about policy. So I’m voting Trump 😊
Aside from the fact that most of the crazy inflation in 2021 and 2022 was caused by the insane amount t of money Trump pumped into the economy and the tariffs he imposed...how do you figure he's better for the economy? Not to mention that he is morally bankrupt and tried to steal the 2020 election. I just hope if he loses this time that he won't unleash another angry mob.
The only place you see conservatives and liberals talking without vitriol today is when it’s with Bill. He offers a place for discussion found nowhere else.
So do I, but it is not how podcasters about politics get wealthy. They do that by conflict, and selective outrage and bluster. That's the ruination the internet has brought us in the last 10 years. Heat beats light, and facts are so yesterday.
Ben is fantastic and hard to disagree with when you hear him out, a very likeable person who is a force for good. This is one of my fave club ransoms yet, a fascinating exchange of ideas. That's how things would look if people could come back to centre left and centre right positions.
I think the celebrity status is what disconnects him. He has less relatable problems than the layman. Since he doesn’t experience them, he thinks very few experience it.
@@omni-versalyes he is in his own bubble and president Trump literally enforced the law and respected the constitution and guess who broke countless constitutional laws Biden Harris and Obama
I don’t watch the show I just watch it if Ben or some one on a podcaste covers a statement he made and all that comes out of his mouth is Trump hatred and claiming he is Hitler and when he was just president. And hmmmbill which party did we need to create a constitutional amendment to literally stop them from staying in the presidential office?which party has tried to get change the Supreme Court number and start interfernment cams for Japanese citizens and who has tried to stop the filibuster???? The democrats are are addicted to power they and they have always been. fDR and Wilson are both corrupt democrats who were enamored with Fascism and authoritarians wh. You have no right to call some one who has just been president Hitler and republicans cults with no evidence
I still don’t understand why being able to communicate with opposing world leader and negotiate is a bad thing. If you are incapable of diplomacy then you have war. We had no new wars under Trump for a reason. Only 2 ways to resolve a dispute, talking and fighting. One chose talking and the other chose fighting.
And we saw what happens with only appeasement and no threat of war under Harris and Biden. 2 absolutely horrendous wars and Sam Harris made the same argument that no president should have good relationships with dictators, who seriously believes fhat ? There was no wars under president trump because he carried a big stick
@@ScottIchniowski1989 That's such a bad-faith arument. The pandemic started the last year of his term. Negotiating with opposing world leaders and signing the Abraham Accords was not a result of "dumb timing" and to dismiss those efforts to promote peace is disingenuous. To pretend that the leader of the most powerful nation in the world has no impact on world conflict is ridiculous. I'm not a Trump apologist and I didn't vote for him in either past elections, but I wont deny he had better foreign policies and promoted peace.
@@talmiz101 There is absolutely war profiteering going on. The military industrial complex has way too much influence on foreign policy. If there is one fundamental change that needs to happen in US government is an effort to prevent those with a conflict of interest from voting on policies they can directly profit from.
Ben Shapiro calling Molly Hatchet a punk rock band made my day! Also saying 15 yrs ago was "years and years ago." For me, that was like 5 minutes ago. God, I'm old😂
As a former pothead, the issue is that it quickly becomes a daily habit, especially with youth. Kids get drunk on the weekend with friends but it rarely turns into drinking each morning and through out the day. With weed, it’s the opposite. It’s a slow boil when you start young in this day and age. It should be legal but people who sell to people under 18 should have severe consequences
I disagree with you about the drinking everyday thing. It's quite common for people to drink everyday. Alcoholics Anonymous has millions of members. Plus if you compare the amount of deaths from drunk driving versus stoned driving it's not close. I'm not saying either is good, but there is a difference in danger between the two. And I wouldn't be angry if they raised the legal weed buying age to 25.
@ agreed. I didn’t mean to say that daily drinking doesn’t happen but with youth, just that it’s WAY more common for them to toke every day vs drink every day, sun up to bedtime.
We shouldn’t normalize weed as “harmless”, just like we used to normalize drinking (and still do - to some extent) Even just 10 years ago, having a glass or two of wine, or beer every night, or binge drinking every weekend is seen as the “norm” and not as an addiction. Bill is kind of full of it about weed not being addictive, just like any pothead will tell you. Yes, he could “stop” at any time without many bad side effects like hard drugs. It doesn’t mean it’s not addictive or potentially harmful. People under 18 or 21 should not touch it
@@gabrieledwards1066not everything is pure danger though. Weed can take a man’s purpose away and that’s really bad for society. And since it’s not as scary as booze it’s often overlooked. And vaping or being slightly high is harder to spot than a drunk. So people get high at work now. There’s no free lunch with it, but agreed, legalized and/or decriminalized federally then let states and local municipalities decide.
One of the best Club Random podcasts I've seen. Civil conversation, enlightment, and humor. Ben is simply whip-smart and kept Bill's wonderful ego in check.
This is how conversation and disagreements were handled when I was a young adult. 2 adults giving their opinions, accepting their different views, and even laughing! I don’t often agree with Shapiro, but he is a super smart man. Great episode.
That’s gotta be a real shit hole getting practically car jacked and then not having the right to have your firearm on you or weapon to protect your life and even worse the life of your family. What a sad state . I wouldn’t even visit that shit hole if you gave me a free vacation.
If Bill had balls, he would invite Trump or Vance on Club Random for a 2 hr sit down and they would do it. Do same to Harris/Walz and see if they show up?
One thing I think is great about Bill is that I am a conservative Christian and I disagree with a large part of Bill’s views, I can listen to him because he is willing to listen to every side whether he agrees or not. In a world where msm is shutting down opposition from both sides, it is refreshing to have one who allows discourse.
You know the woke left and the legacy media done effed up catastrophically if they've got Bill Maher and Ben Shapiro wholeheartedly agreeing with each other about them!
You never learn or grow if you only surround yourself with people who agree with you or have your same point of view. I learn far more by speaking with or listening to people who disagree with me, than I do by those who see the world as I do.
He is only tame and not acting like a pretentious toddler because he knows he can be outsmarted. I’ve noticed that watching his show. He will act like a total pretentious douche around those that aren’t as intelligent or those he doesn’t really like;the guests where you can tell he wants to leave a good impression on he suddenly turns into a reasonable guy.
BEING"STRAPPED" DOESN'T PREVENT CRIMES IN FLORIDA ,DIDN'T SAVE THE STUDENTS IN PARKLAND ,MANY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ROBBED IN FLORIDA AND ALSO KIDNAPPED AND KILLED !!!
I think it's a question of perspective. Bill probably thinks of himself as being wealthy, and he is. But there are things he can't have because they're beyond him. He doesn't see what it's like to be a multi-billionaire.
These same people say Trump said he would dissolve the constitution. Then you read the quote because it was a post on truth. It says if America allows election interference, it is akin to canceling the constitution. So he never even out of context said he would cancel it, so instead of taking it out of context, they just completely changed his words. Even when Cenk was pushed on it, he said, "So what if he didn't say it? He said all of these other things." 😂 he is using it again.😂😂
I don’t entirely align with either of these brilliant people but I share so much in common and I love that they both hold their ground and make their own contributions. This was a fun conversation.
Gosh this Man Maher & the rants about Trumps and the same rhetoric he parrots. Just grow up. I was anti trump too however in his last year saw beyond and now thinks he is the option not that no good chameleon kamla. And I am an ethnic woman too. Just get over yourself bill. Enough you are exhausting. Can’t listen last past 13:49 . Hopefully someday he’ll learn to be a host and let his guest speak .
I’m with you. I’ve watched Bill for decades but the TDS makes him look stupid. He still falls for the CNN propaganda. I’m an Asian American female educated at NYU and UVM and I just voted for Trump. I hated Bill’s condescending reference to the Trump voters without college degrees. Also embarrassing I used to watch CNN and had voted for Gore Kerry and Obama in the past.
@@123bwlch Supporting the person who blatantly lied to your face about the sitting President being a literal potato for years, and was installed by the DNC instead of winning a primary even though pretending to even know what "democracy" means? Yea, GREAT choice!
Bill and Trump hate each other on a personal level. This goes back to before Trump ever even announced he was running in 2015. While Bill obviously is against many of Trump's political positions, his hatred of Trump is purely personal.
I listened to the audiobook version of War and Peace narrated by Ben Shapiro.
It's 9 minutes long.
that actually made me laugh out loud.. a tip of the hat to you, haha ..
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I love Bill for having Ben on his show and I love Ben for being himself. Excellent episode.
Next, Maher should give Donnie Romero a platform to speak his truth. e_e
I love when these two get together. They may disagree on a lot of things but they are always civil and always willing to have an open dialogue. If only more Americans could learn to do that.
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@@kristenkidd3982 It wasn’t even that long ago that things were pretty civil…and getting better. But something happened. I have my opinions on what that was and other people have theirs, but things have deteriorated tremendously in the past 20 or so years.
Dear young people: this is how the world was 20 years ago. Civility despite differences. Politics and culture today is a complete disaster.
Apartheid?
Cold war? Vietnam? Ireland?
Nah you're right, gone to pot
This was actually filmed in 2024.
Obama shut down discourse. The racists accusations became way to easy to shut down anyone. Also the cancel culture started.
Love this conversation. Although they disagree, they can still share a laugh. This is what America really looks like if you turn off the news.
They don’t disagree, bill has a facade to uphold. He is far more right leaning because hes old and not with the times anymore. American politics looked respectful before trump because trump isn’t a politician he’s plant used to divide America to slow them down. Americans especially in the Midwest and lower southern areas are apart of the lowest IQ demographic in the modern world and also the poorest in history since the early 20th century and they’re voting for a corrupt millionaire who had his supporters start an insurrection. Most Americans who voted for trump don’t know what that word means that’s why he’s in charge again
I would agree but the videos of liberals having meltdowns over Trump winning tells another story.
This is how it should be cause we're Americans we should be able to disagree. Msdnc is on the air w a " Psychologist" saying to cut off family ties because of politics. Smh. This is truly the left. They are the party of Intolerance.
Just look at the horrically racist names they feel free to use toward a black conservatives. You wanna see what the racially sensitive "party of tolerance" really thinks look at the names they throw around towards them, and it's not just race it's also sexuality and anyone who doesn't agree 100% with them. They call the founder of walk away a MAGOT. I'm sure we know the slur they're calling him. The most intolerant people always pointing their fingers screaming facist as they attack in a facist manner.
@@JohnSmith-dj8rpthose aren't actual people. They do not qualify whatsoever.
It's probably not a popular thought, but the fact that they can sit and enjoy each other's company but hate each other’s political views with a passion and disagree is refreshing to see. We need more of this in the world.
Shut up, it’s the most important and commonly shared view with the majority of folks here.
Yes, I'm crushed over the results but we made it the first time and covid aside nothing really effing changed through both administrations! Some of the coolest people in my life are conservative to even conspiracy theorists but I just agree to disagree and there is so much else in life that is beautiful to agree on!✌️
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@@mikelseyfert21 where did my comment go? What’s up Mike?
Just GREAT 🙏 They are disagreeing 90% of the time, but can have a respectful discussion and break out in laughter together… We as a society should learn from this and stop shouting at each other and respect different opinions 😎✊
Ben is happy to be civil to anyone that supports Israel. he doesn't care what you think of american presidents or america, but you HAVE to support Israel.
Great interview, fellas. They disagree on most things but here they laughed and were respectful to one another. The vicious way Americans treat each other is what's hurting us deeply. It's not who gets into office. We're human beings capable of compassion and civility but we've decided it's better to allow politicians to turn us into monsters. I've heard mean things come out of my own mouth, too.
And, I've never heard Ben laugh that much!
No-because Ben knew when NOT to argue clearly showing who the idiot is ¿`_
Only because they agree on 1 thing...Isreal
the next cycle, any candidate who can't do this type of format will not succeed. (likely this cycle too, but next time all politicians will be doing these long format sit downs, unscripted)
As a romanian person, who lived under Nicolae Ceausescu's dictatorship in the seventies and eighties I know what dictatorship is. Bill - with all the respect - you have absolutely no idea. Saying that Trump is a dictator is ridiculous.
Ceauşescu succeeded in becoming a dictator, Trump failed. That doesn't make Trump any better.
Just read project 2025 you will see Trump plan....or just watch his rally.....or interviews, he is telling out loud he wants to be one!
The OP is Absolutely right. Those they say different are just regurgitating the mantra of the narrative…naivety
@@coolnout3765 😂 That's not what "authoritative" means you goofy doofus. LOL!
@@coolnout3765 SAID things? Gtfoh! 🙄
As a consistent watcher of both very entertaining. They both occasionally go cringe, but bright, articulate, and funny. Bill funnier. Ben brighter. Great show.
A little more than occasionally on the cringe but great analysis
As a staunch conservative, I truly appreciate Bill and his openness to have a dialogue with people he disagrees with.
I'll bet you do
@@dansonoflightning2277 I'll bet you don't.
Pro-war people always agree. Nothing new here
He's a conservative now.
Staunch conservatives don't listen to bill maher
finally, someone that keeps talking whenever Bill Interrupts them! and with intelligence 🙌
lol you're so funny 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Intelligence to a point, when you believe in a deity that creates all existence that intelligence gets thrown out with the bathwater
Because he's right 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Shapiro is a fool.
@@LaoZi2023Exactly, you can't argue that he's not bright but then there's that invisible wizard in the sky thing.
I could say plenty about Ben, but I screamed “YES!!!” when he said being one of six in one house with one bathroom isn’t an obstacle, it’s just life.
Who even said something like that was an obstacle in the first place?
@@K1GBD 🙋🏽♀️ family of 5 here with 1 bathroom. Don't think I've peed in private in 19 years. 😁 Fortunately, 3 of the 5 are guys so they can at least pee off the porch (we're REALLY rural). 🤣
@@WhoaBowtf does that have to do with anything
@@alexxxg7952😂🤷♂️
@@WhoaBofreak
I've gotta say it again, now that I've finished listening. I love these two together.
This did my heart good to watch this. I like Bill and Ben. I am politically moderate but lean more towards the right now and have left the Democrat Party but I still enjoy Bill he is someone who will hear out the other side and is someone you can have a nice convo and a laugh with regardless of some differences. The way it should be. Even if he does have Trump Derangement syndrome. This was heartening to watch days before another divided and controversial election where so many people think the sky will fall if their side doesn't win.
Exactly. Well said.
I love hearing people with different views and opinions having a conversation. Two of my favorites!❤
There's actually a really funny story behind how I got the name "That There Dancing Man", and what it can mean for both you and your family.
People saw me dancing at a club in Tampa in 1998 and they were quite amazed at my ability to dance like there was no tomorrow...and so they just started calling me "That There Dancing Man"
I love this. When the left and the right speaks to each other in a respectful manner. This is how I learn things. Thank you guys
Yes. ❤
Bill I love whenever you have Ben on your shows-Ben thanks for always showing up. More people need to converse this way.
Its actually super refreshing how these two polar opposite people get along so well. They should start a joint show.
Joint show? You made a funny. 😂 I agree with you. Ben and Bill speak with respect towards each other’s views.
@@denabergman6543 I got the joke! LOLOLOLOL 😆
Bill would definitely contribute with the joint…
That would be miserable. I somehow made it though this, but Shapiro makes me just wanna puke. No fkin thanks.
No one would watch - they're both too annoying.
👏👏👏 Bravo to you both, this was such a joy to watch! No shouting, just two very intelligent people on different sides of the political aisle, having a discussion and even sometimes finding common ground. I can’t say enough what a breath of fresh air it was to hear the two of you talk, and I certainly learned a new thing or two. Thanks for this video!
Well said! I came away with the same feeling.
🥹 these 2 men clearly like & respect each other, despite disagreeing politically. This was quite sane & pleasant to listen to
It's the culture. Very unlike "the community" all caught up in their fefes.
Only with the volume turned off.
Loved this pod- the world(especially America) could use more of this- two guys, who differ on many issues, being able to sit down and converse like human beings without losing their shit.
this is truly refreshing!! two guys that hardly agree on anything but that genuinely seem to enjoy each other's company
grown ups
@@I9IIEIIYIIEIISit’s sad how easy I am to impress these days 🤣
No that's not true about agreeing on nothing . They agree on Hamas, terrorism, the good guys in the middle East, and the excesses of the far Left, particularly" woke" culture and identity politics, and the whole excesses of the campus world. The agents of the authoritarian governments here masquerading as free people want us to be at each other's throats.
Bill, I know you’ll probably never come right of center, but as someone on this ‘side’ I do have to thank you for being open to conversation like you are. We need more of it.
How about acknowledging the majority of people who are centrists and may be left leaning on some issues and right leaning on others. Or simply are a little left or right of center. We used to be able to get things done in this country because politicians were able to work with each other regardless of party. Now every issue has to be turned into grandstanding and a political talking point . Tired of the negative campaigning . Whatever happened to inspirational leaders?
I love it when Ben and Bill get together. You know you’re going to get honest points from both end of the spectrum. It’s so healthy and helpful for us all to see how to PROPERLY disagree with each other.
Lol yea sure honest points from the tiny hats
Except "all" of us don't need to be shown. I don't scream, "Nazi/graycist/grapist!!!" at my Democrat friends just because they vote blue. It is consistently one side that loses their 💩 & is fundamentally incapable of objectivity when it comes to Trump. Bill's still in the TDS group & can't debate Trump in good faith.
you're not getting "both sides" of the spectrum, bill's a centrist
If Ben was honest he wouldn't be in the Trumper camp, he would be in the 'old-school' Republican camp that hates Trump because he is bad for pretty much everything they stand for. Religion, big business, traditionalism.
@toughbutfair86 Bill's a centrist? Tell us you're on the left without telling us you're on the left....
It's funny how Bill keeps making passive aggressive statements and then says, "Let's not talk about it" to avoid being cooked by Ben. 😂
Bill dreams of being a fraction as smart as Ben.
He's full of it ! No idea why the right compliments him for acknowledging lefist screw-ups. Dump Bill. I watched to see Ben, but didn't make it very far.
Bill always does that. When he loses the argument, he tries to change the topic. Doesn't mean he's wrong, he's just not a good debater.
@garthkelly1668 - I think he's trying to embrace the MJ strategy of "Republicans watch TV too," calling out leftists. 😆
But I do find his contradictions annoying, to say the least. He touches on how the media lies and spreads misinformation. Yet he doesn't apply that same sentiment to Trump and believes every TDS facet.
I find Maher a bit patronizing where he postures like an intellectual, but always does the "subject change" I touched on initially to avoid being cooked. So it's a bad faith style of debating. 💯
Gross. please stop kissing Ben Shapiro's ass.
Thank you, gentlemen. I feel smarter having listened to this conversation! We desperately need more of this - finding areas of agreement, and disagreeing with respect.
Upvoted you but then I'm an American. The agents of the authoritarian states want us at each other's throats and they dominate Maher's comment stream
So. Good. The world needs more of this. I learned so much, and challenged my own biases. Authenticity in its finest right here.
I'm about to find out. Excited to listen
If you’re mentioning perceived biases against Ben, I appreciate that you’re approaching this topic with an open mind. However, there’s an essential point to understand-this is who Ben genuinely is. He hasn’t altered his views or personality to fit the expectations of this show or its audience. The notable change, then, is not in him but in the fact that you have stepped outside of your own familiar perspectives to engage with his.
It’s worth noting that this process of stepping beyond one's bubble is important on both sides of the political spectrum. I don't mean to imply that this is unique to one group, but it does seem that this type of openness is encouraged more frequently within conservative circles. The challenge and value of reaching across these divides cannot be overstated, especially as we all strive to understand others without sacrificing our own beliefs.
Bill: "Do you really think the hellscape that would be America would be worse under Kamala?"
Ben: *urgent nodding*
Maher HIDES it well, to be 'popular' with enough Lefty Pinko Commies , while pretending he is NOT a Trump HATER !
( .... but Maher is scared SHIT-LESS that the Left will 'cancel' him ! )
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
Failure is always an option
Bills got perma TDS.
And there are people, reasonable, intelligent people, that believe in their heart that the Earth is flat.
Awesome interview. I recently got back from Thailand and Nepal on a missions trip and we are very blessed in America with a lot of comforts that can be taken for granted. Especially women!
Love Ben! Glad they both can sit down and talk despite their differences. This is America I want 🇺🇸
BILL AND BEN CAN SIT DOWN AND DISAGREE WITHOUT FEAR OF ANY PUNISHMENT, THATS WHAT A DEMOCRACY IS 👍 IN A TRUMP DICTATORSHIP THIS SHOW WOULD BE OUTLAWED,THATS WHAT A DICTATORSHIP IS !!! BEN,HARD TO BELIEVE THAT YOU BELIEVE TRUMPS CONS ,LOOK WHAT HAPPENED WHEN BIBI BELIEVED SINWARS CONS , THOUGHT YOU WERE SMARTER THAN TO BELIEVE IN TRUMP🎗🎗💙💙💙🇮🇱🇮🇱🇺🇸🇺🇸🙏🙏👍👍
THIS CAN ONLY HAPPEN ,LIVING IN A DEMOCRACY NOT A DICTATORSHIP ! PLS VOTE BLUE 🇺🇸🇺🇸💙💙💙🎗🎗🎗🙏🙏
ME TOO!
I love Bill❤
@@Shoshanna-jn3fx no this can only happen when we have free speech, vote trump
This is what free speech should look like.
Good will, good faith, curious conversation between people with very different values and personalities.
Love it!
@@abpositive8588 Bill adding little snarky remarks about Trump or the Republicans is not good faith
@@RediTtoraHe's trying to keep things light but there's that part of him that can't help himself
Bill thinking Trump began flying private in 2016. Dude literally had his name on the jet. 🤣 🤣 🤣
There is a big difference between flying private because you can afford it and flying private because you are POTUS.
I don't think Donald likes being potus to make a difference in the way things are done, he likes being potus because of the status.
Like dude he could fly anywhere he wanted way before he was president and actually was well received everywhere he went up until then!!😂
@@tmlms1313 Yeah, he likes being smeared 24/7, being dragged through the mud along with his whole family, being investigated for just about everything the democrats can think of. He adores it when they try to shut down his businesses. Oh and the attempts on his life, he really REALLY can't get enough of those. 🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂
MAGA pretends we didn't pay for those flights
@@BitWreckerLol, the US taxpayer has been paying for the travel of presidents for generations. We paid for Clinton to fly in a plane, we paid for Bush to fly in a plane. We paid for Obama to fly in a plane.
Why do you feel that MAGA should have to acknowledge that US taxpayers pay for the travel of sitting presidents?
This is one of the better shows. Drastically different points of view yet such a great, clam, and friendly discussion about each's views. Both fellas are smart as heck too. Ben is great !
Smoking weed before talking to Shapiro is a mistake, Bill.
i think ben was like "oh sht" right off the bat when maher slurred "mollyhatchetwuzzat"
I feel like if the guest is straight edge you should prob hold off lol
@RoCmom113 Watch Ben Shapiro's latest Lex Friedman interview. Lex comments that he just saw Ben smoking a joint before he started the interview. Ben responds by saying, "I'm trying to keep that a secret" and Lex drops it. I'll try to find a timestamp for you in case you doubt me.
Meanwhile you’re wasting you time watching the podcast, and Bill is making money 💰.
@@RoCmom113 , absolutely!
It's crazy how, a few years ago, I was a Bill Maher type of liberal. After Trump (and everything that came after him), I'm closer to a Ben Shapiro type of conservative. Wokeism killed the left.
I still can’t get behind Trump. If Nikky Halley was the candidate, I would be checking that box.
@@kristenahubbard3338 you call Trump nuts, you say both parties are bad but yet you wanna vote for Nikki Haley who’s a warmonger do you actually do any research or do you just think you did? If trumps nuts nikki is death embodied.
I’ve had the exact same experience.
@@kristenahubbard3338 Hang in there.. After Trump is done there will be really solid candidates like Desantis and Haley. I will say it seems impossible that you would want to vote for Haley but then would end up casting a ballot for Harris. Haley is much closer to Trump politically then she is to Harris.
So what you mean is you completely did a 180 instead of actually thinking for yourself. Being a reactionary is never a good look.
Ben Shapiro is a breath of fresh air! Finally, someone who isn't a farrrrrr leffffftisttt looooon...
This is a fantastic episode for so many reasons! It offers great dialogue, rich history lessons, valuable insights, and an impressive ability to logically and calmly discuss differing opinions. I would love to see more episodes featuring the two of you! I really appreciate how you both start from very different perspectives, yet find points of agreement by the end, while exploring each other's backgrounds and perspectives with respect. (Of course, both of you being highly educated and well-informed on these topics plays a big role in this.) Additionally, your good-natured interactions make the discussion even more engaging.
Most importantly, the truths you discuss about civilizations, Israel, war, and the formation of America are incredibly informative and impactful. I believe this episode should be shown in schools across the country as a model on how to have respectful, productive discussions on a variety of topics with others that might have similar or different views than your own. It could also provide students with a reality check on how the world actually works and how America reached its current state of being, while showcasing the freedoms we enjoy and acknowledging no country is perfect, but America is closer to that ideal than most. GREAT JOB TO THE BOTH OF YOU!!!
I truly enjoyed this I wish my children who are Dems would interact with me this way instead we are a family divided.
This is EXACTLY how normal people act. Two people with ALOT of differences sit down and have civilized talk and not bashing or bantering each other. Thank you Bill and Ben for being great influences in a time of such chaotic status.
Gaylord
They are both Establishment Grifters and Propagandist, oh and Zionists. They are on they same team regardless of what simpletons like you think.
Bill normal???? 😂😂😂😂
Where are all the normal people, then. I have a hard enough time talking to myself bc I AM indecisive and undecided.
Seems I have to decide what to say to whom all the time, because most people are far more intolerant than I😮💨
@ do you live in a blue state?
I just love Ben!!! Absolutely brilliant
Legal immigrants yes- illegal immigrants -no.
Trump wants to get rid of them, too. Haitians are here legally.
“I don’t care if we’re replaced, as long as there’s paperwork”
Agreed but don't shut down a perfectly workable immigration bill because Trump said so and wanted to campaign on it!
@@markmaxwell1013 Are you aware that the proposed border legislation set a FLOOR of about 1.5 million illegal immigrants per year before any future POTUS would be allowed to act to slow or stop people from crossing the border illegally? That isn't workable. That was setting the last 3 years of record high illegal immigration as the new standard. That isn't even remotely close to trying to solve illegal immigration. That's mandating by law that the govt ignore the problem but not increase the number of legal immigration either. That bill was nonsense.
@@markmaxwell1013that “perfect bill” allowed amnesty and basically allowed 2 million illegals to enter the country, along with a few billion dollars to Ukraine for no reason
This was GREAT! One of Bill's best
The country desperately needs more conversations like this. Both these guys are adequately knowledgeable about each sides differing view points. This is the only way forward. We can't keep hating half the country because we voted different.
yeah, we've been brainwashed into thinking it's 'bloods vs crips'. and that line of thinking needs to be called out.
Both jus talking, they dont care, jus know talking points of party.$
Yes, we can, because one side wants to turn our country into a dictatorship.
@@I9IIEIIYIIEIIS trump calls all the democrats evil and said he'd use the military to lock them up.
Sure we can appreciate this. But it's accurate to the reality were living in. Two guys who are removed from the common man acting like they have a clue about what lives normal people live.
shut up, stop virtue signalling
The way Bill pulls emotion and relatability out of his polarizing guests is a talent that should be appreciated more. My opinion of Ben Shapiro has completely changed after this episode - and that's something I never thought I'd say. Thanks, Bill, for letting us be a part of this somewhat vulnerable conversation.
This is how Ben is. I'm glad you changed you opinion, this is why talking to people outside of your bubble is great. It's too easy to build a strawman of "the other side" when you don't interact with many people or much content from the other. This is true on both sides
Ben Shapiro is a con-artist Jewish supremacist.
Ben is already relatable, Bill isn't doing anything special, its just two people having a civilized conversation.
I implore you to keep listening to people you had preconceived ideas of. I think you will continue to be surprised.
Ben is always like this. You must not have listened to enough of his stuff or any other podcast he's done. Ben has literally done four episodes with Joe Rogan over the last seven years and every one was exactly like this.
It is hard to listen to Bill when he is drunk and high. Hats off to Ben for lowering his IQ in this conversation.
It is also hard to listen to him sober.
And right after he was talking about how pot makes his brain faster.😂
Lowering his IQ 😂😂😂😂🔥
Yeah pretty much. When Bill is high or drunk, there's no point of trying too hard.
He meanders, cuts people off, loses his train of thought and often veers into tangents that replace the interesting subject at hand. Annoying to hear him ask Tarantino a question I’d really like the answer to, and then jabber until the question is forgotten and never answered.
I just started watching, and I came to the comments to see if anyone else thought Bill was drunk/high. I literally checked to see if I accidentally set my playback speed at 0.75 because he was talking so slow! 😂
2 people who couldn't be more different having an intelligent, humourous conversation. A lesson in civility.
I really enjoyed this conversation. It was respectful and something that is missing in today's society.
Ben and bill together is my FAVORITE! They’re so hilarious together, so opposite but BOTH so witty that it’s conversation GOLD
Ben and Bill “are my favorites”
It's a great example of a to disagree in a friendly way
Not opposite. They are both 100% israel genocide supporters. Thats the only thing you need to do to be a friend with Ben.
@@ChazeGeyer Ben and bill- TOGETHER- is my favorite
@@ChazeGeyer So many things on the internet during an election to comment on, and you want to get it on this one. Thanks for this riveting debate 😂
Bill's condescending tone is so difficult to listen to.
@@caterinadc5567 he cannot help it, the vodka and the G4 powered hydroponic grown grass talking?
For real. The arrogance between him and Ben is at top tier levels
Shapiro’s mind is firing on 12 cylinders and Bill’s is on 1% battery. Still…good episode
@@tmjmccormack Bill knows more and has done more than you ever will. If he's at 1% youre in a deep discharge
Yea but grateful he can try to have the conversation
That was refreshing. I lean to the left, but I like *both* of these guys, and it was a pleasure to watch them have a no-BS conversation.
Lean to the left on what? On war?
@@fz7694 In politics.
This is a perfect example of two people that have a lot of differences, but can still have a respectful and enjoyable conversation. I wish more people could do this…
Bill interrupted Ben when Ben started to talk about Bill Burr. He purposely steered the conversation to himself lol
Yessiree!
They can come together over having intellectually dishonest arguments
@@3552paulette that's fine, maybe it's not ideal, but it's fine and normal.
The problematic thing would be trying to shout above the other, getting angry at each other, or directly insulting each other.
Changing the subject or steering a conversation towards a different topic? that's a normal conversation.
Only because they agree on Isreal
Bill has some cheek asking Ben would he admit he was wrong if it turns out that he is. Hello! Has he memory holed that he had Ben on his TV show and sneered and laughed at him, as did his audience, when Ben said he didn't believe Trump had conspired with Putin? I guess he has and it shows what a classy guy Ben is for not referencing it. Worth a watch if you haven't seen it.
@@WhoaBo wat
@@dublinvids5146 and how many people around trump went to jail?
I don't know why it would be.
I don't know it wouldn't be.
Trump admitted and denied russias interference.
@@WhoaBothis is actually kind of brilliant because you sewed just a minor seed of doubt. Now no one knows if this is real or if it’s not because who’s to say OP’s ex didn’t track him down and ask for the child support on UA-cam
The replies to this post have me thoroughly confused lol😊
when leftists like to claim that Trump likes Putin, it seems they don't understand the difference between a diplomatic relationship and a friendship. If you can't maintain a diplomatic relationship, how on earth can you discuss solutions going forward? If Trump reflected hate and disdain, Putin wouldn't have any reason to consider his possible solutions. He wouldn't even have a discussion with him.
I appreciate the civil conversation between two people with opposing views. Maybe one day we can all see each others side of things without having complete f’ing meltdown.
Please have Ben back on the show, that was great!
Ben's had a lot of videos published in the past 48 hours. The man is doing overtime.
It’s great when most of my favs take the weekend off.
Like Trump ...
Doin the lords work
It saves time when you talk at the speed of thought.
It's election season kick it into overdrive. Cmon!
Parents with good boundaries have good kids. They teach their kids to understand boundaries and consequences. Best lessons.
Exactly! They must be taught what is good and bad behavior. They do not instinctively know.
Except when it comes to women’s boundaries and letting them decide what is best for their bodies not the governments
Not only did he not go after Hilary, Trump said no to it because he thought it would be bad for the country. In fact this is something a large population is pissed at him for not doing.
In other words.....it was another broken campaign promise to his supporters.
He asked Barr to press charges against Biden 2 weeks before the 2020 election.
Comey and McCabe (?-the guy who offered to wear a wire) suspiciously went through an intense IRS audit in the same year
that is a lie. he publicly pressured not one but TWO attorney generals to prosecute hillary. problem was, there wasn't anything to prosecute her for. and they told him that
Much like in the rigging of the election claim--they didn't have the goods. Plus, even though it's large, it's still a minority
Yes he did Trump is just dangerous
Wrong, but Biden went after Trump, kinda like the way Hitler and Stalin went after their opponents@@QuincyManns
Please do a post election interview!!!
PLEASSSSSSSSSE!!!!
They do work well together, I'd love to see a weekly 2 hour show with them. Like a new version of "Crossfire" arguing about sane right and left topics.
Really Bill? It doesn’t affect you when you car insurance doubled , your home insurance doubled , taxes have gone up on your home and food has almost doubled?
You are so condescending to the majority of America.
well he's rich he can afford to drink and smoke as much as he likes daily.
And you don't think that hurricanes, fire and tornados have anything to do with insurance rates going up? Yet, Trump denies climate change and yet here are his supporters complaining about its trickle down effects. Smh. And, if people think taxes are too high ...quit voting for tax increases in levies.
He really is the worst
@@nekoti.8-2 Lol fire, tornados and hurricanes are Trump's fault too? Seek professional help FAST
It’s just funny when Trump fans try to act like he will fix it. Or that it wouldn’t have happened or been worse with him in office.
Good for you, Ben! Respect ❤️
What I like about Bill Maher is his ability to interact with people like Ben, who disagree on various points but can enjoy their company while making a strong effort to hel his audience better understand what makes them tick. I would have gotten a kick out of it if Bill had talked Ben into sharing a joint. That would get millions of views.
As a Radical Moderate, this is what Moderation is... having respectful disagreement! We don't have all the answers folks.
I have all the answers. I just refuse to share them
@@notalizardperson4899 LOL! To think how we could have all finally lived in a Utopia!
@@RadicalModeration Muhahahahaha
Now a radical moderate is still a radical? And "radical" hasn't connoted or DEnoted anything good since the damn Ninja Turtles?!
@@ttacking_you That's indeed the only acceptable kind of radical: a Ninja turtle! LOL! But a more serious point on it is how the shift in the Overton Window has caused previous moderates to appear radical now. Actually just made a video on that today.
You can tell that Ben really likes Bill because he is more friendly and actually laughs when he hangs out with him.
Yeah… it tends to happen when they know that they both agree on the most important issue: Isræl
And he didn’t crush him when he could. Bill has some good takes. Ben has some bad ones. But when bill was wrong here it was ridiculous
@@PeacefulPiranha That’s because they both have in common the love of Ben Shapiro’s favorite country more than America
Because he’s a fellow rat
The laughing covers the awkwardness.
100 percent right Ben…. Voting for what will help our family. I’m not getting caught up in the middle school dramatics of name-calling. I’m staying focused. All that is just white noise. I’m concerned about policy. So I’m voting Trump 😊
trump has no firmly held policies. he didn't as president either
My Aunt Shirley said that I can have a cheeseburger today after TV time
Aside from the fact that most of the crazy inflation in 2021 and 2022 was caused by the insane amount t of money Trump pumped into the economy and the tariffs he imposed...how do you figure he's better for the economy? Not to mention that he is morally bankrupt and tried to steal the 2020 election. I just hope if he loses this time that he won't unleash another angry mob.
Curious, how is Trump going to help your family? That's an honest question.. I do not understand how this is going to happen.
@@travelingmaniac Excellent question. Trump talks big, but way too general and at least half of the things he proposes would be a disaster.
The only place you see conservatives and liberals talking without vitriol today is when it’s with Bill. He offers a place for discussion found nowhere else.
Patrick Bet David does the same but better
Joe Rogan has some great interviews too.
"And you'll fucking love it because this is America". I loved it! 2 of my favorite people together making comedy gold. Great job!
Incredibly entertaining episode. Two people who disagree on various issues just sitting around talking civilly. I miss this in America today.
So do I, but it is not how podcasters about politics get wealthy. They do that by conflict, and selective outrage and bluster. That's the ruination the internet has brought us in the last 10 years. Heat beats light, and facts are so yesterday.
Justice for PNut and Fred! MAGA!
I would like to tell you a story later after I finish my sandwich. One thing at a time.
@@WhoaBo Have you finished your sandwich? I wanna hear the story.
@@Ben_Kunz Harambe 2.0
@@BasementPepperoniyup
This is why I love Bill, and Ben. Such great people with such reasonable positions.
Ben is fantastic and hard to disagree with when you hear him out, a very likeable person who is a force for good. This is one of my fave club ransoms yet, a fascinating exchange of ideas. That's how things would look if people could come back to centre left and centre right positions.
Bill maher is just woefully under informed about everything these days.
I think the celebrity status is what disconnects him. He has less relatable problems than the layman. Since he doesn’t experience them, he thinks very few experience it.
All I know is that Trump tried to steal the last election and his voters don't even care. That's pretty crazy, don't you think?
some things. not everything. he's not a stupid man.
@@omni-versalyes he is in his own bubble and president Trump literally enforced the law and respected the constitution and guess who broke countless constitutional laws Biden Harris and Obama
I don’t watch the show I just watch it if Ben or some one on a podcaste covers a statement he made and all that comes out of his mouth is Trump hatred and claiming he is Hitler and when he was just president. And hmmmbill which party did we need to create a constitutional amendment to literally stop them from staying in the presidential office?which party has tried to get change the Supreme Court number and start interfernment cams for Japanese citizens and who has tried to stop the filibuster???? The democrats are are addicted to power they and they have always been. fDR and Wilson are both corrupt democrats who were enamored with Fascism and authoritarians wh. You have no right to call some one who has just been president Hitler and republicans cults with no evidence
Bill: "Let's not talk about this controversial topic."
Bill proceeds to talk about it.
@@Dinosaurs-pv7qm bill is very much like a woman in that he'll say he doesn't want to fight but then he'll try to get in the last job
Thank you! It’s rare to see people who disagree have a civil conversation. Comment section went wild. 1:20:00 great point
Right?! It was nice to hear a civil and interesting conversion between these two.
I still don’t understand why being able to communicate with opposing world leader and negotiate is a bad thing. If you are incapable of diplomacy then you have war. We had no new wars under Trump for a reason. Only 2 ways to resolve a dispute, talking and fighting. One chose talking and the other chose fighting.
And we saw what happens with only appeasement and no threat of war under Harris and Biden. 2 absolutely horrendous wars and Sam Harris made the same argument that no president should have good relationships with dictators, who seriously believes fhat ? There was no wars under president trump because he carried a big stick
We had no new wars because the pandemic happened and because wed just gotten out of. 20 year one . Dont attest circumstance to trumps dumb timing
You are not the only one 🤔 maybe they are afraid of losing money coming out of forever wars🤔
@@ScottIchniowski1989 That's such a bad-faith arument. The pandemic started the last year of his term. Negotiating with opposing world leaders and signing the Abraham Accords was not a result of "dumb timing" and to dismiss those efforts to promote peace is disingenuous. To pretend that the leader of the most powerful nation in the world has no impact on world conflict is ridiculous.
I'm not a Trump apologist and I didn't vote for him in either past elections, but I wont deny he had better foreign policies and promoted peace.
@@talmiz101 There is absolutely war profiteering going on. The military industrial complex has way too much influence on foreign policy. If there is one fundamental change that needs to happen in US government is an effort to prevent those with a conflict of interest from voting on policies they can directly profit from.
Ben Shapiro calling Molly Hatchet a punk rock band made my day! Also saying 15 yrs ago was "years and years ago." For me, that was like 5 minutes ago. God, I'm old😂
I wonder what he would call the sex pistols😅
Ben was Flirtin with Disaster that night.
lol I haven’t gotten to that but damn Molly Hatchet most definitely is NOT punk
How old is this guy who speed talks like a tape playing on fast forward and thinks Molly hachetts punk?
@hollygolightly7475 He may be young, but he can spout out info like no one I've ever heard. Meanwhile, I'm over here trying to remember my name! 😂😂😂😂
As a former pothead, the issue is that it quickly becomes a daily habit, especially with youth. Kids get drunk on the weekend with friends but it rarely turns into drinking each morning and through out the day. With weed, it’s the opposite. It’s a slow boil when you start young in this day and age. It should be legal but people who sell to people under 18 should have severe consequences
I disagree with you about the drinking everyday thing. It's quite common for people to drink everyday. Alcoholics Anonymous has millions of members. Plus if you compare the amount of deaths from drunk driving versus stoned driving it's not close. I'm not saying either is good, but there is a difference in danger between the two. And I wouldn't be angry if they raised the legal weed buying age to 25.
@ agreed. I didn’t mean to say that daily drinking doesn’t happen but with youth, just that it’s WAY more common for them to toke every day vs drink every day, sun up to bedtime.
Drinking every day is most college students.
We shouldn’t normalize weed as “harmless”, just like we used to normalize drinking (and still do - to some extent) Even just 10 years ago, having a glass or two of wine, or beer every night, or binge drinking every weekend is seen as the “norm” and not as an addiction. Bill is kind of full of it about weed not being addictive, just like any pothead will tell you. Yes, he could “stop” at any time without many bad side effects like hard drugs. It doesn’t mean it’s not addictive or potentially harmful. People under 18 or 21 should not touch it
@@gabrieledwards1066not everything is pure danger though. Weed can take a man’s purpose away and that’s really bad for society. And since it’s not as scary as booze it’s often overlooked. And vaping or being slightly high is harder to spot than a drunk. So people get high at work now. There’s no free lunch with it, but agreed, legalized and/or decriminalized federally then let states and local municipalities decide.
I like Bills ability to have profound discussions while disagreeing with someone. What a great duo!
This was an incredible meeting of the minds. Loved it 😊
Mahar models having an intelligent respectful conversation with someone from the other side. We need more of this.
Maher****
Blowing pot smoke at people’s faces and listening for an hour, while monetizing the conversation, is “respectful”?
I think it’s more of a job, really.
@@UpriseMusic They both showed restraint.
One of the best Club Random podcasts I've seen. Civil conversation, enlightment, and humor. Ben is simply whip-smart and kept Bill's wonderful ego in check.
It was a mutual admiration sociey lovefest, and neither interesting nor informative.
@@lciummo1 Of course, this is your opinion.
Seeing Bill talk about politics is like talking to a drunk boomer at a party about politics who only gets talking points from CNN
Good for both of these guys.
We need to show people can disagree and be peaceful.
In the UK we would see this guy as a far right nut case which sounds a bit intellegent but his ideas are vile.
@@123bwlch would you care to provide context?
The UK is falling apart at the seems right now...but I assume you think things are great right?
@@123bwlchWhich of his idea's are vile?
@@TheRetroManRandySavage Shapiro supports a ban on abortion,, including in cases of rape and incest, just for starters.
Once you have a taste of a private plane ....... He's a billionaire bill. He has a private plane already.... The hell are you talking about
Hahaha exactly
Ben needed to call him out more for casual nonsense like that
His point was that there's a huge difference between all other forms of travel and Air Force One.
Damn, Ben is so sharp. His intelligence is off the charts.
This is how conversation and disagreements were handled when I was a young adult. 2 adults giving their opinions, accepting their different views, and even laughing! I don’t often agree with Shapiro, but he is a super smart man. Great episode.
Bill is condescending, hijacks the discussion and never, ever takes other opinions or facts on board. Never. Not once.
I hope Ben's friend is ok. Getting robbed sucks.
That’s gotta be a real shit hole getting practically car jacked and then not having the right to have your firearm on you or weapon to protect your life and even worse the life of your family. What a sad state . I wouldn’t even visit that shit hole if you gave me a free vacation.
I’m wondering why Ben’s security didn’t intervene~ they were only 3 cars away. 🤷🏼♀️
@@PortlandRose they were no dummies, on west coast youcant defend life or property without lots of legal hassle
@@PortlandRose They weren't getting paid by Ben's friends. lol
@@dire7237 because the story is probably false.
If Bill had balls, he would invite Trump or Vance on Club Random for a 2 hr sit down and they would do it. Do same to Harris/Walz and see if they show up?
I'm certain he made valiant attempts.
Vance would be the only good conversation.
None of them bother with Maher. He gave Obama $1million and he still didn't go on his show lol.
I will tend to agree with you, Simper Fi’. Vance was better than Trump on Rogan, in my opinion .
@@MyKingdomForAK9 Im sure you’re correct.
When these two get together it’s always awesome
One thing I think is great about Bill is that I am a conservative Christian and I disagree with a large part of Bill’s views, I can listen to him because he is willing to listen to every side whether he agrees or not. In a world where msm is shutting down opposition from both sides, it is refreshing to have one who allows discourse.
You know the woke left and the legacy media done effed up catastrophically if they've got Bill Maher and Ben Shapiro wholeheartedly agreeing with each other about them!
This why i love Bill having someone on that he mostly disagrees with while having a healthy debate ❤
You never learn or grow if you only surround yourself with people who agree with you or have your same point of view. I learn far more by speaking with or listening to people who disagree with me, than I do by those who see the world as I do.
Amen brother.
He is only tame and not acting like a pretentious toddler because he knows he can be outsmarted. I’ve noticed that watching his show. He will act like a total pretentious douche around those that aren’t as intelligent or those he doesn’t really like;the guests where you can tell he wants to leave a good impression on he suddenly turns into a reasonable guy.
There's not a left wing show that wouldn't have Shapiro on. Ben's just too scared to debate people who know what they're talking about
Bill is too high to have a rational conversation
“I’m strapped and so is my wife…”
😂
BEING"STRAPPED" DOESN'T PREVENT CRIMES IN FLORIDA ,DIDN'T SAVE THE STUDENTS IN PARKLAND ,MANY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ROBBED IN FLORIDA AND ALSO KIDNAPPED AND KILLED !!!
🙋🏽♀️ Strapped wife.
The wife is strapped on
I bet his wife is 😂
If you are strapped but surprised and outgunned and outnumbered by bandits you will.......what?
I appreciate the candor. Anyone else?
Really enjoyed this conversation!
Great convo, well done both!
15:03 He wants to be president because he wants to fly private or have security? Um…billionaire. 🤦🏻♀️
I think it's a question of perspective. Bill probably thinks of himself as being wealthy, and he is. But there are things he can't have because they're beyond him. He doesn't see what it's like to be a multi-billionaire.
These same people say Trump said he would dissolve the constitution. Then you read the quote because it was a post on truth. It says if America allows election interference, it is akin to canceling the constitution. So he never even out of context said he would cancel it, so instead of taking it out of context, they just completely changed his words. Even when Cenk was pushed on it, he said, "So what if he didn't say it? He said all of these other things." 😂 he is using it again.😂😂
Exactly. Bill doesn't understand many things about Trump, so he certainly wouldn't understand his motives for running for president.
Yeah that part confused me. Trump said it many times he can just buy an island retire and he can buy 50 private jets if he wants to.
It’s an analogy. It’s also wrong.
I don’t entirely align with either of these brilliant people but I share so much in common and I love that they both hold their ground and make their own contributions. This was a fun conversation.
Gosh this Man Maher & the rants about Trumps and the same rhetoric he parrots. Just grow up. I was anti trump too however in his last year saw beyond and now thinks he is the option not that no good chameleon kamla. And I am an ethnic woman too. Just get over yourself bill. Enough you are exhausting. Can’t listen last past 13:49 . Hopefully someday he’ll learn to be a host and let his guest speak .
Me too! Lifelong dem voting for trump- he needs to open his ears and mind omg
I’m with you. I’ve watched Bill for decades but the TDS makes him look stupid. He still falls for the CNN propaganda. I’m an Asian American female educated at NYU and UVM and I just voted for Trump. I hated Bill’s condescending reference to the Trump voters without college degrees. Also embarrassing I used to watch CNN and had voted for Gore Kerry and Obama in the past.
Blech! Kamala chameleon? Trumpf is nothing but vlle transactional. You don't smell the sulphur anymore.
@@notMelB Supporting the pro Putin guy great choice!!!!!!!!!
@@123bwlch Supporting the person who blatantly lied to your face about the sitting President being a literal potato for years, and was installed by the DNC instead of winning a primary even though pretending to even know what "democracy" means?
Yea, GREAT choice!
The best way to get rid of Bill's TDS is to actually have Trump on his show and argue with him until he's blue in the face
Better than red in the face, sweetie
Def not on the 2024 bingo card, but Trump is making the rounds, why not do Club Random? 🤷♀️
@@Mrspuma527 As if Mr. TDS will even invite him on the podcast....Bill is afraid he will get jolted back into reality...
Bill and Trump hate each other on a personal level. This goes back to before Trump ever even announced he was running in 2015. While Bill obviously is against many of Trump's political positions, his hatred of Trump is purely personal.
God that would be amazing Trump and Bill going at it
Again good on Bill for talking to both sides!
He talks. Doesn't really listen
I enjoyed this conversation a lot !