Definitely. Somewhere, it seems, humans have lost that ability to simply have a conversation. 2, or more, people are NOT going to agree on EVERYthing. Just because 1 doesn't agree with another, doesn't mean there has to be hatred. Hateful put downs, & name calling, is NOT a conversation. Sure as HELL no civil one anyway...🤷♀️
Bill "what is non-binary, is that like bi? Lost-The-Plot" Maher who cannot fathom what woke is, debate intelligently with NEil? Can I get a timestamp? seriously, i wanna know where i missed it
Tyson comparing separate bathrooms for the genders calling it the same as segregation has to be one of the most absurd things ive ever heard.....thought they only said that kind of stuff on FOX news
@@weedthepeople2795I think he was just proving a point about trans folks. I could see where he was going but he could’ve done better. Also that’s like the opposite of Fox. Fox doesn’t even think of trans folks are human. You’d have to switch “segregation” with “extermination” to be up Fox’s alley. His was going more liberal/MSNBC.
I took pleasure in witnessing Bill's struggle to refrain from leaping out of his chair, as Dr. Neil skillfully and gracefully roasted him. This unexpected turn of events caught Bill completely off guard.
This was terrible. I was thinking Bill was starting to get more mellow and rational recently but he about jumped out of his seat multiple times in raging hate. Bill is such a moody freak. That's why he's not married, because he, not the women, is crazy AF.
@@SilentStormParadox exactly, he so easily offended. he almost shit his pants about being called the old guy yelling 'get off my lawn'. that analogy really hit too close to home for him and triggered him.
The issue with just using hormone levels for sports is that hormones are not the only difference between the sexes. Biological males have an advantage with lung function, reflexes, bone strength, bigger hands, etc. To reduce men and women to merely hormones is ridiculous. He is a scientist and knows this.
@@wyattcole5452 That's a question you can answer yourself if you know anything about Bill Maher and his thoughts on overreaction to words. I don't think Tyson intended that reaction but if he did, it was a masterclass in revealing the bitch in the pitbull.
@@afterhours1969 Bill was quite hostile a few times, props to Neal for not letting it get to him. I do have to give props to Bill also for being so patient with Neil at times when he kept interrupting.
Bill Maher making Neil seem ageist bc of the get off my lawn joke in the same breath as he craps on college students for being soft is peak comedic irony hahaha love it!
College people aren't just SOFT.. they seem really dumb to man.. especially when it comes to life..and common sense. I feel like common sense is becoming more rare these days. It's crazy.
I love that Bill can be so friendly, but also not at all afraid to RIP into somebody when they have it coming. Great convo. Glad Bill didn't let Tyson off the hook.
Never been a big fan of Bill. We’re on different sides of the street but after this interview, I know. That, even though our streets have different twists and turns it still leads to the same place . I respect him.
@@Tixsi11 Nobody with knowledge is saying that. Please show me where policies or society is moving right. Leftists are leaving the cult because the side has lost their mind. Demanding children be abused, abortion until birth, ignoring crime, defunding police, siding with terrorists to name a few.
@@ManiacalManiacThis 100% - NDT has the most severe case of Dunning Kruger that they should use him in psychology textbooks. If not for that he'd be charming.
NDT and Ben Shapiro was actually really good, IMO. I’m not a fan of Ben Shapiro, but he showed NDT respect and actually listened to him. They debated gender/sports thing, too
It's funny how they're fundamentally saying the same thing on most things, but they're both not listening because they want to come out on top, lol. Best friend potential.
I lived it too and it is going to get even better as long as we have people like you guys willing to share their options with grace and humorous tales.
@@TheSands83 The problem with covid people are too ignorant to understand that emerging diseases are like a weather forecast. You want ALL the answers NOW, and you want them to be ALWAYS correct, or everyone is incompetent.
I don't think he ever really disagreed with Bill on any particular point, when discussing Covid. My takeaway is that Neil basically just believes that the people in charge at the time did the best they could with the best available facts at the time, and they were under the gun to act. There wasn't time to take a vote and wait for the whole medical community to come to an agreement on the best way to handle the situation. However, that's not the same as saying that Bill's actually wrong.
“I feel like we’re in rocking chairs on your porch, Bill. Kids stay off the lawn.” And Bill says “I feel like we’re in a barber shop.” I saw them both on horses charging at each other jousting. Wild ass conversation.
Neil Tyson must understand that the moment he cares more about not hurting his fans feelings over presenting scientific facts, he stops being a scientist and becomes an activist, and don't get me wrong, you can care about people's feelings but sooner or later you must choose between those two things and even if you go all the way to don't say things that would make people angry or trigger, the truth is nobody and I repeat NOBODY can make everyone happy, there is going to be always somebody who doesn't like what you say even if is a scientific fact and that includes "fans" (And let's be honest, if those so call fans get angry if he says the "wrong thing", they weren't fans in the first place). And most importantly, in a free society, NO ONE is above criticism because that comes with our right of free speech.
Very true. Neil is making a lot money right now being a mouthpiece and self deception/ justification can be very strong even in the most intelligent individuals. combine this with the ever looming threat of being cancelled in todays witch-hunt society and I think we are seeing the result. It is still really unfortunate though. We had an inkling years ago that facts and science would begin to clash with the ever increasing “feelings” society, I just hoped it wouldn’t be this bad.
Activist for what? It's a funny thing -- when a scientist shares a scientific perspective that people don't agree with, they call that scientist an "activist". It's kind of ironic.
@@citizenghosttown I think you missed the point. OP made it very clear what was meant: _"... the moment he cares more about not hurting his fans' feelings over presenting scientific facts, he stops being a scientist and becomes an activist."_
"if those so call fans get angry if he says the "wrong thing", they weren't fans in the first place)." well, fans don't have to accept everything their "idol" says as "truth value", right? I mean, I am a NDT fan and at the same time I don't agree with everything he says and as he is a human being, he can fuck up from time to time. In other words, even when I admire somebody, I KNOW that somebody can be an idiot just like everyone else.
I would literally pay $100 to watch a 3 hour debate between Bret Weinstein and Neil Tyson on the vax, on how cv-19 was handled, MSM, and the falling confidence people have in most institutions.
@@Surferdadsocal All Neil would have to do is read a handful of studies to demonstrate how almost everything Weinstein said was BS, especially on Ivermectin and the dangers of the vaccine.
Sir Brian May, English musician, songwriter, singer, astrophysicist and animal rights activist. Let's get him in the Club, eh. Now there's a rockstar!!⭐🌟🤩
I love the podcast, Bill. @48:15, FYI, the Lincoln-Douglas debates didn't happen in 1860, and they weren't regarding the presidential election. (POTUS candidates didn't debate publicly until the mid 20th century.) They occurred in the mid 1850s, and they were debates related to the Illinois state election--which Lincoln lost.
you're the type that can't take a joke and takes everything literally on purpose so you can criticize it because it "doesn't make sense". Your best friend is probably your mom.@@CazaDeYork
Towards the end when Neil talked about Stanley Kubrick saying his movies are meant to show what we need to avoid in the future. I immediately thought of the first season of Black Mirror. Those episodes where absolutely chilling and scary. Showing what could happen as the technology we use today keeps morphing and expanding into things that don't seem very far fetched anymore.
The funny thing about this convo is this is the perfect pairing of people to talk to each other. Just the right amount of charm and intellect to balance out the extremely pompousness and smug attitudes they both have😂
@@edwardwelch3317he’s more than a comedian, but let’s go with that. Bill is only a comedian and yet he still seems smarter when it comes to the state of the country and common sense than Tyson
ive watched many interviews with him and compare him to other people that are considered to be smart such as roger penrose. ive never heard NDT say anything particularly profound. @@gummiewormproduction
I genuinely want you guys to do that talk publically. Even on the edgier issues, I found both parties very interesting. Two men who really THINK about their opinions, and I would like hours more time for you to flesh out your conversation. Wonderful stuff.
My English is lousy, but I can't tell you how much I understand and love these conversations with Bill the (old white) Man! Warm Greetings to everyone - who's reading this - from Vienna, Austria.
I dont believe he truly does, like he said, he is trying to dodge landmines and so his method of doing that is not to object or be negative but to offer solutions. He doesnt care if the solutions are crap because they will never implement them but he will come off as being "cool dad" trying to help.
Agree, was he suggesting we take team sports with several players and split competition by Weight or Hormones like the 10 classes in wrestling? Why are we even entertaining ridiculous conversations with these people.
@@jimweir6500 Don't we all in our way? Bill is simply a public figure that we watch and judge according to our own beliefs, which in my opinion is what is wrong with the world! Our world is ever-changing, instead of pushing our ideals on other people we should be learning how to get along while having differences of opinions and values. It's really the only way to live in peace!
I really enjoyed the jabbing of each other's perspective and professions. While I agree with Neil on a lot of the topics I still love Bill's perspective and quick wit. Bill is turning into Clint Eastwood from Tarino but with more jokes. I would love to see Bill go out there to those college crowds and win them over with his amazing humor that's been bestowed upon us over the decades. Be a hell of a challenge and I imagine some great jokes would be made. Most of all. I was glad to a rational discussion at club random. Cheers gentlemen!
👏👏 Bill Mayher is speaking some serious truth Nowadays I used to hate him with a passion, but now find myself listening to him and agreeing with him. 👍👏👏
@@zjedinite Bill Maher has drastically changed. He still has certain views he hasn't changed from, but overall has clearly become more moderate. In the 90's he was definitely far left, and never would be agreeing with as many as he does now.
@@My-Name-Isnt-Important Bill is a smart man. The best comedians shift back and forth from left to right. George Carlin was the same way. It's their job to entertain everyone they can entertain. As a Non-Partisan Agnostic, I love it!
Bill, I am not married, but I have a Man Cave! It's a shed refurbished into a music studio, gaming room, music room, and a place to relax away from the main house. My cave! I spend most of my waking hours in my man cave. Man Caves are NOT just for married men wanting to get away from their spouse or family. It's a sanctuary and retreat for a man to do whatever he wants for whatever reason. It's alone time or it's time well spent with friends...and yes, family too. But it's his cave and everybody respects it as such. However, let me be clear...I don't call my man cave a disco! LOL! Who am I? Absolutely NOT John Travolta!!! Peace and Cheers! I am also a long-time fan--I doubt that I've missed one of your shows or specials in two decades. So, take me at my word. I'm in my man cave right now! Booyah!!! 🤩😎
Bill missed a golden opportunity to address all the recent serious injuries that females have suffered at the hands of biological males including the most recent incident of a girl getting her teeth knocked out.
He didn't miss any opportunity. This is just a podcast with two semi-drunk elderly man talking over each other. It's not their job to point out every single injustice happening in the world in the most fair way possible. Get over it and enjoy the fact we have access to conversations where people can still disagree.
@@larryw5533 All females will never beat all males in sports you dope. Look at any stats. Look how that trans woman beat the sh*t out of that real woman in an MMA match. Do you want to consistently see that? Men will always dominate women in sports except for an occasional fluke, like 1%
Bill is the man of the year!! His position on not doing college shows, on why the students are like they are, and not allowing Tyson to call him an old man yelling at kids to get off his lawn was the best two minutes of any conversation I've heard in years. You are super gifted Bill, and you do the hard work to know what you believe to be true and communicate it. Outstanding!!!!
It’s not about being older. - NDT is similar in age. It’s about Bill sounding like Kevin Harts impression of his grandfather. Look at that cat! Drinking milk! 😂😂😂
@@TheDakota24 young people aren’t always right because my grandparents hated rock and roll. We all get the idea of older people fearing change. When you take a reasoned counter argument and try to cut it down at the knees because you’re trying to say “you’re just being a grumpy old man” you’re ignoring the actual argument and engaging in bad faith.
I’m a fan of. Dr. Degrasse Tyson’s and admire his intellect. But no one is right about everything. Hormones aren’t the answer when it comes to trans athletes. He should know this because it’s research based. Female hormone treatment only changes male physical performance by roughly 5%. That’s not enough to even out the male biological advantage. It’s a non-factor.
Bravo. I loved the resourceful back and forth. This is how it used to be. People could disagree and not get butt hurt. If you respect the other and listen, we as humans could accomplish a lot. Loved this podcast
Now if only the guests and talking heads on the MSM with stark differences in beliefs could respectfully debate like this. Mad respect for both of these guys.
The world we live in is back-asswords. When Bill Maher talks more sense than an astrophysicist, you know we're in for a wild ride. But bless this conversation, it was fun!
@@CazaDeYork it’s implying when black were worth 3/5 of a person. Now they aren’t now and slavery is still a thing that privileged America don’t care about because being a victim of atrocities you didn’t experience is in.
@@danielferguson6063hasnt bill and 50+% of the country been saying that already? Bill has been wildly outspoken on “woke” for months and months now, to the point of losing entertainment value
Nobody is even being canceled lol. The game now IS to be canceled because then you grift to right wingers who think if they pay you $5.99 a month they get to hear you drop n bombs on Patreon lol and then it ends up being the same lame garbage that all failed comics like Jim Bruer spit on stage. "COVID, am I right, guys? What about that wokeness stuff, huh? Hey, I believe in a boy and a girl". They're stuck in a pandemic loop and can't escape because the Walmart crowd eats that shit up still.
@@danielferguson6063 thing is, the younger generations are gonna do what they do regardless. They will shape society long after Bill passes away. Not an attack, just a fact. They can heed warnings from older gens, or not.
I really enjoyed watching this conversation. How sad that I watched this and thought it to be an anomaly. I totally remember a time where this type of exchange was the norm.
"I don't need history books because I lived it" Bill Maher. The problem with that ethos is that it only covers an extremely limited first person perspective. What about the history of all the other places, people experiences. It's impossible for someone to live everybody's history, and that's why we need to educate ourselves that there is a world beyond our perspective.
here's the thing, saying he lived it so he does not need to educate or find out in any way is like saying I've lived through the Ukraine war in the UK, and I know what they went through.@@FacebookCanKissMyAssbook
Damn, about 35 minutes in…Bill isn’t wrong in context, but as usual too proud to entertain another perspective, which actually has some merit. And if he calls one more grown ass man “sweetheart” I’m gonna lose my mind. It’s beyond condescending.
These guys are def not buddies. Bill hates anyone who disagrees with him, then becomes hypocritical, then tries to end the show early, then awkwardly tries to make light of the situation, then begs Neil to do a public talk because he chases clout since he's irrelevant. Neil is only here because he believes everyone is equal and I thinks likes to balance the types of opinions he talks to to increase is Speech skill level.
2:55 the worst most stuck up wine snob I ever met with my dad who actually bought a full size refrigerator specially made for wine! That's when you should realize you have problems. Bill Maher and Neil deGrasse Tyson thank you so much for doing this episode Neil and thank you Bill for coming up with this series I love you both and has been faithful viewer of your shows for ages. I wish you all the best. You were both amazing at what you do
It's not that the kids are raised wrong- It's the introduction of the internet influencing. a generation's opinions. Parents are not the be all, end all in influencing their kids.
I think Neil is the only guest I've seen fully capable of shutting down Bill's attempts to interrupt him unlike the rest of Bill's guests that just stop talking because Bill like most liberals gets louder and louder to get his "more important point across". Neil shut that shtt down!!!🤣🤣🤣
I know for a fact that NDT was wrong at least once when he talked about GMOs when he proclaimed authoritatively that it used the same method as plant or animal breeders do. You cannot breed plant to contain say bacteria genes that are not in their genome already. He not only was wrong, he was insistently wrong. This is what the GMO industry wants people to think.
The problem with Neil trying to "navigate" the new culture is that he's unaware that he's trying to navigate through a trap. And the deeper he goes, without even knowing where he's navigating to, the more likely it is that he'll just get lost and never find his way back. Don't try navigating with a map that doesn't make sense or you'll just get lost with the rest of them. Which is exactly what's supposed to be happening, they're getting you to navigate right into a trap.
The bigger problem with him "navigating" is that he's avoiding the problems when he could be shining light on them. He's always been 100% focused on the other team's problems and not at all his own team's.
@@danhalstead705that’s where you’re wrong: there’s nothing to go back to. There’s only the future. You can fight it all you want and try to cling on but you’ll get swept with it, just like everyone else. Youth is always wrong, but also always right, because it just is.
@rdalge agreed. With you and Neil. Social mores and norms are going to change. Your options are to "navigate", as Neil said, and stay in the conversation and have SOME effect. Or disengage and have no effect. The kicker: in the long run, and as far as the big picture goes - it doesn't matter. The only thing our choice will really affect is our own relationships.
@@rdalge That's bullshit. Swept by who? Loud kids with blue hair? This is a phase, those kids are going to grow up and the new kids will be morphed with machines. This is just some crazy transitory phase that makes no sense and will pass, because people won't put up with it. Unless they're weak and spineless like Neil.
Neil is the perfect example that you can be a genius at a specific thing, and a complete idiot about everything else. The problem is that he clearly thinks he knows better than everyone on every subject and it comes of ignorant and arrogant.
You're so right but I wouldn't even go so far as to call him a genius. He's a celebrity scientist. He's just famous because he's a black scientist and talks to dumb people well. He has contributed nothing significant to his field.
As a 40yr old lifetime conservative, I've always liked and with this series have come to love Bill Maher. He's my new favorite brand of grumpy old man like a liberal Ron White , it's great
Is the universe under any obligation to make sense at all? I fail to see how a universe following rational and logical laws would be incomprehensible to a rational and logical mind.
This is going to be the battle of interruptions
100%
Really hoping it’s not another Richard Dawkins .. he couldn’t get a word in edgewise . I think NDT is more forceful.
....And self-felating
Cry about it, passion can rub people who are dead on the inside the wrong way.
Nailed it
Two people who love the sound of their own voice more than anything else 😂
Add on the 45 family -
Says the guy with shit comprehensive skills
At least Bill has a backbone - Neil speaks out of his as & regurgitates fake science bs
@@ishyaboy2k24fake science…..😂
@@ishyaboy2k24he believes what he saying so so he believes the bs as you say 🫠🫠🤨🤨
"I love you always. Even when we fight." We need more people in this world who are like that.
Nah we would less of that garbage.
Definitely. Somewhere, it seems, humans have lost that ability to simply have a conversation. 2, or more, people are NOT going to agree on EVERYthing. Just because 1 doesn't agree with another, doesn't mean there has to be hatred. Hateful put downs, & name calling, is NOT a conversation. Sure as HELL no civil one anyway...🤷♀️
Best guess ever!
@@joannerudolph5028No guessing here...However Tyson is a guest, yes.
One of the best episodes. Enjoyed their ability to disagree and debate intelligently and respectfully. And have a good time. 🍻
Bill "what is non-binary, is that like bi? Lost-The-Plot" Maher who cannot fathom what woke is, debate intelligently with NEil? Can I get a timestamp? seriously, i wanna know where i missed it
Tyson comparing separate bathrooms for the genders calling it the same as segregation has to be one of the most absurd things ive ever heard.....thought they only said that kind of stuff on FOX news
@@weedthepeople2795I think he was just proving a point about trans folks. I could see where he was going but he could’ve done better. Also that’s like the opposite of Fox. Fox doesn’t even think of trans folks are human. You’d have to switch “segregation” with “extermination” to be up Fox’s alley. His was going more liberal/MSNBC.
I took pleasure in witnessing Bill's struggle to refrain from leaping out of his chair, as Dr. Neil skillfully and gracefully roasted him. This unexpected turn of events caught Bill completely off guard.
John 15:10
It's far more entertaining when Bill absolutely disagrees with his guests. Great video!
This was terrible. I was thinking Bill was starting to get more mellow and rational recently but he about jumped out of his seat multiple times in raging hate. Bill is such a moody freak. That's why he's not married, because he, not the women, is crazy AF.
@@SilentStormParadox Agreed.. maher stressed me the fuck out in this interview..
Doesn't he always disagree lol
@@SilentStormParadox exactly, he so easily offended. he almost shit his pants about being called the old guy yelling 'get off my lawn'. that analogy really hit too close to home for him and triggered him.
32:55 is where the heat gets turned on and man, did it escalate quickly lol 😂
The issue with just using hormone levels for sports is that hormones are not the only difference between the sexes. Biological males have an advantage with lung function, reflexes, bone strength, bigger hands, etc. To reduce men and women to merely hormones is ridiculous. He is a scientist and knows this.
He most likely went to Epstein island and is black mailed. Or the dumbest scientist alive
Exactly. He is a liar. A handsomely paid affirmative action scientist propagandist.
And elasticity in their tendons is different which makes men typically more explosive
Puppet for something much bigger he just exposed himself but he’s done this before
He's just lying to himself for exactly what Bill called him out for. The path of least resistance.
The best point made by bill is that we’re all human at the end of the day and when we treat each other as equals the rest won’t really matter.
Except for right wingers, conservatives, and the evil orange man of course.
but he's the one who doesn't treat others with respect
Bill doesn't own a mirror, figuratively speaking.
Watching Bill Maher get triggered by "get off my lawn" has to be one of the biggest ironies I've seen and heard in a long time.
Trump killed irony and now Bill is just rolling with it, hairplugs and all
They are soft
Why? Because he called get-off-my-lawn-mindset kinda people something along those lines in a monologue in 2008?
@@wyattcole5452 That's a question you can answer yourself if you know anything about Bill Maher and his thoughts on overreaction to words. I don't think Tyson intended that reaction but if he did, it was a masterclass in revealing the bitch in the pitbull.
@@Kontonymous he has a point in what he says, and that’s because it depends on the context. You’d have to give examples at that rate
Man, Bill had some big balls on this session, refreshing
I'm really impressed how much Bill pushed him. Kudos
I couldn’t believe Neil compared boys and girls bathrooms to segregation! My jaw dropped! Thank god Bill bucked up to him!!
he pushed him yes.. in the dumbest directions
BILL never has actual data, he just knows he's right.
I love it when two people can have a heated debate and vehemently disagree, the hit the off switch and return to civility.
I speak like this naturally and people think I’m hostile. I’m like, no, I’m not mad. I thought we were just talking.
even if one is also disturbingly misinformed?
Rather than reach for the missles?
Ntd calling him grumpy old man was civility...lmao
@@afterhours1969 Bill was quite hostile a few times, props to Neal for not letting it get to him. I do have to give props to Bill also for being so patient with Neil at times when he kept interrupting.
Bill Maher making Neil seem ageist bc of the get off my lawn joke in the same breath as he craps on college students for being soft is peak comedic irony hahaha love it!
well, they are soft
@@travisprugh6347 Nah Bill is an out of touch douche.
Had nothing to do with ntd having insane indoctrinated views ala higher education
@@travisprugh6347old people also cry about their traditional values constantly
College people aren't just SOFT.. they seem really dumb to man.. especially when it comes to life..and common sense. I feel like common sense is becoming more rare these days. It's crazy.
I love that Bill can be so friendly, but also not at all afraid to RIP into somebody when they have it coming. Great convo. Glad Bill didn't let Tyson off the hook.
Seriously
Off the hook for what? Being smarter than a pathetic stoner?
Bill waned Tyson to believe in the same things as he does. Tyson refused and was polite with him. Maher was obnoxious.
NDT is a coward who just wants to know “how best to navigate the ravenous mob.” Of course Maher called him ridiculous.
@@cecilcharlesofficial exactly. You said it.
Never been a big fan of Bill. We’re on different sides of the street but after this interview, I know. That, even though our streets have different twists and turns it still leads to the same place .
I respect him.
He is slowly moving to the right side of things.
@@gimpygrandpa8281 everyone else is just moving so far to the left, that the old left, is becoming the new right :S
@@Tixsi11 Nobody with knowledge is saying that. Please show me where policies or society is moving right.
Leftists are leaving the cult because the side has lost their mind.
Demanding children be abused, abortion until birth, ignoring crime, defunding police, siding with terrorists to name a few.
So you're saying that you're a big fan of 'bum jokes/ jokes about Uranus?'
I’ve come to that same conclusion as well. I like bill even with his raging tds and narcissism
For someone worried about people being sensitive, Bill M sure is Sensitive.
Funny how little self awareness he has.
As much as I like Tyson, he was trying to tell Maher how stand-up comedy should work. Tyson needs to stay in his astrophysics lane.
@WarrenAllely I would agree? If Bill didn't have an Opinion on how to everything and everyone
@runkus6136far more aware than Neil. At least Bill questions his beliefs and understanding of the world
@@ManiacalManiacThis 100% - NDT has the most severe case of Dunning Kruger that they should use him in psychology textbooks. If not for that he'd be charming.
I’m gonna be sad when this hour is over, because this is one of the best interviews I’ve seen in a LONG time. So cool to see these two
They had me smiling outloud the entire time!
Dr Sagan was a true gentleman. Rest in peace Carl.
Really? Hiding the truth, now we have this stupid actor
Yea and Tyson was nothing but a diversity hire, not a successor.
We need him now more than ever
Wow! You've got a real hate-on for astrophysicists.@dfens1944
He's a Dr. Really 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢 Holy Shizzznit Robert.
Bill,
Thanks for letting us sit in.
We get that real communication entails moments which some may call... uncomfortable.
Very human.
Finally, the unstoppable shouting meets the immovable interruption
"Finally, the unstoppable shouting meets the immovable interruption."
I like this so I'm gonna steal it but I will sign it Wilford Brimley Pranks!!
😂
Like Batman and the Joker, they are destined to do this forever. 😉
Actually one of my favorite Neil interviews. Just two guys who don't necessarily get along on everything just talking it out and having a chill time.
Bill come on overaction big time. And it's true for all of us a little bit as we get older even if we don't want to admit it.
NDT and Ben Shapiro was actually really good, IMO. I’m not a fan of Ben Shapiro, but he showed NDT respect and actually listened to him. They debated gender/sports thing, too
Just that Neil loves himself so VERY much…always puts me off a bit.
@@shannontreiber1070NOBODY loves NDT more than NDT.
That's an interview? Thought they were just chatting.
Neil deGrasse Tyson and Bill Maher great show.
This interview got better and better, give thanks for a nice Sunday afternoon
It's funny how they're fundamentally saying the same thing on most things, but they're both not listening because they want to come out on top, lol. Best friend potential.
I lived it too and it is going to get even better as long as we have people like you guys willing to share their options with grace and humorous tales.
FINALLY!!! Neil's face as soon as Bill said Covid lol
Never buckle Neil.
@@charlesrb3898never admit when u r wrong?
@@TheSands83 The problem with covid people are too ignorant to understand that emerging diseases are like a weather forecast. You want ALL the answers NOW, and you want them to be ALWAYS correct, or everyone is incompetent.
I don't think he ever really disagreed with Bill on any particular point, when discussing Covid. My takeaway is that Neil basically just believes that the people in charge at the time did the best they could with the best available facts at the time, and they were under the gun to act. There wasn't time to take a vote and wait for the whole medical community to come to an agreement on the best way to handle the situation. However, that's not the same as saying that Bill's actually wrong.
LMAO he took a sip of his drink too
Bill you sound just like my dad used to about my generation when I was in college. I'm 70 years old.
“I feel like we’re in rocking chairs on your porch, Bill. Kids stay off the lawn.”
And Bill says “I feel like we’re in a barber shop.”
I saw them both on horses charging at each other jousting. Wild ass conversation.
Lol Bill Maher talking about how easily college students get offended, immediately gets offended by "get off my lawn" comment from Neil.
Neil Tyson must understand that the moment he cares more about not hurting his fans feelings over presenting scientific facts, he stops being a scientist and becomes an activist, and don't get me wrong, you can care about people's feelings but sooner or later you must choose between those two things and even if you go all the way to don't say things that would make people angry or trigger, the truth is nobody and I repeat NOBODY can make everyone happy, there is going to be always somebody who doesn't like what you say even if is a scientific fact and that includes "fans" (And let's be honest, if those so call fans get angry if he says the "wrong thing", they weren't fans in the first place).
And most importantly, in a free society, NO ONE is above criticism because that comes with our right of free speech.
Very true. Neil is making a lot money right now being a mouthpiece and self deception/ justification can be very strong even in the most intelligent individuals. combine this with the ever looming threat of being cancelled in todays witch-hunt society and I think we are seeing the result. It is still really unfortunate though.
We had an inkling years ago that facts and science would begin to clash with the ever increasing “feelings” society, I just hoped it wouldn’t be this bad.
Activist for what? It's a funny thing -- when a scientist shares a scientific perspective that people don't agree with, they call that scientist an "activist". It's kind of ironic.
@@citizenghosttown
I think you missed the point. OP made it very clear what was meant:
_"... the moment he cares more about not hurting his fans' feelings over presenting scientific facts, he stops being a scientist and becomes an activist."_
"if those so call fans get angry if he says the "wrong thing", they weren't fans in the first place)."
well, fans don't have to accept everything their "idol" says as "truth value", right? I mean, I am a NDT fan and at the same time I don't agree with everything he says and as he is a human being, he can fuck up from time to time.
In other words, even when I admire somebody, I KNOW that somebody can be an idiot just like everyone else.
@@Crackpot_Astronaut Thanks. I got the point. The point is silly. That's not what an "activist" does. Nor is it what Tyson does.
The best Bill Maher show ever. Thanks for giving us time with one of the best minds and humor on the planet.
I would literally pay $100 to watch a 3 hour debate between Bret Weinstein and Neil Tyson on the vax, on how cv-19 was handled, MSM, and the falling confidence people have in most institutions.
Neil never would. He would get destroyed
Neil would get BODDIED
@@Surferdadsocal All Neil would have to do is read a handful of studies to demonstrate how almost everything Weinstein said was BS, especially on Ivermectin and the dangers of the vaccine.
Indubitably lol space ok...but earth and reality not so much lol
@@SurferdadsocalJFC you guys are deluded and have no idea how science actually works in the real world. Keep "doing your own research". lol
This was absolutely enjoyable watching these two engage.❤
Very well said. ❤
Sir Brian May, English musician, songwriter, singer, astrophysicist and animal rights activist.
Let's get him in the Club, eh.
Now there's a rockstar!!⭐🌟🤩
Yeah, Buddy!
You think he's going to fly from England to Los Angeles for a podcast?
@@jlobiafra Queen are touring in the States right now and played LA this weekend.
65 is old. Hell, I'm 55 and took an unexpected nap half-way through this. 🤣
IT'S not Bill's chronological age, it's his attitude and perception, I'm 74 and he seems way older than me.
I love the podcast, Bill. @48:15, FYI, the Lincoln-Douglas debates didn't happen in 1860, and they weren't regarding the presidential election. (POTUS candidates didn't debate publicly until the mid 20th century.) They occurred in the mid 1850s, and they were debates related to the Illinois state election--which Lincoln lost.
This was great, honestly.
Remember folks, there’s a difference between intelligence and wisdom.
And Neil Degrasse Tyson is neither one.
"Tunnels and bridges are flying cars."---Neil Degrasse Tyson to Joe Rogan.
I’ll take wisdom every day
@@CazaDeYork just say it went over your head lol
@@ParkedNorth Hey if you think a bridge is a flying car, you might also be a diversity hire TV scientist. Congrats!
you're the type that can't take a joke and takes everything literally on purpose so you can criticize it because it "doesn't make sense".
Your best friend is probably your mom.@@CazaDeYork
Towards the end when Neil talked about Stanley Kubrick saying his movies are meant to show what we need to avoid in the future.
I immediately thought of the first season of Black Mirror. Those episodes where absolutely chilling and scary. Showing what could happen as the technology we use today keeps morphing and expanding into things that don't seem very far fetched anymore.
Similarly, books like “1984” (George Orwell) and “Brave New World” (Aldous Huxley) from the ‘30s and ‘40s were about things to avoid in the future.
I will now watch black mirror lol thanks friend!
Sadly a lot of it is actually happening
I couldn't watch that, too dark.
The funny thing about this convo is this is the perfect pairing of people to talk to each other. Just the right amount of charm and intellect to balance out the extremely pompousness and smug attitudes they both have😂
Not really lol. Neil is not charming or intellectual. Anyone who has paid any attention to him for the last decade can tell he is a dope.
One is a comic and one is a educator one teaches the other makes you laugh.
@@edwardwelch3317he’s more than a comedian, but let’s go with that. Bill is only a comedian and yet he still seems smarter when it comes to the state of the country and common sense than Tyson
Narcissists
Surprisingly civil. Ive never heard Neil patiently say "I would like to address that"
Tyson is like the kid in 7th grade that made being smart his whole personality
hes not even that smart tbh
With the irony being he's actually pretty dumb.
@@stayhungry1503 stayhungry1503 assessing the intelligence of DeGrasse Tyson in the youtube comment section is peak internet
ive watched many interviews with him and compare him to other people that are considered to be smart such as roger penrose. ive never heard NDT say anything particularly profound. @@gummiewormproduction
And is not really that smart. That fits the character of the 7th grader
I genuinely want you guys to do that talk publically. Even on the edgier issues, I found both parties very interesting. Two men who really THINK about their opinions, and I would like hours more time for you to flesh out your conversation. Wonderful stuff.
Me too
Here here!
Bill! At his best! So glad to see it!
And Neil is at his absolute worst, he’s become such a dishonest, weasley politician
My English is lousy, but I can't tell you how much I understand and love these conversations with Bill the (old white) Man!
Warm Greetings to everyone - who's reading this - from Vienna, Austria.
great podcast probably one of my favourite episodes
NDT’s idea about segmenting competitors by testosterone levels is so unbelievably flawed that I have a hard time believing he actually believes it
He had to have taken some human anatomy class in college. How does he not know about the differences in bone density and endurance.
I dont believe he truly does, like he said, he is trying to dodge landmines and so his method of doing that is not to object or be negative but to offer solutions. He doesnt care if the solutions are crap because they will never implement them but he will come off as being "cool dad" trying to help.
He's a knowledgeable fool
He doesn't. He's just navigating his way through cancel culture.
Agree, was he suggesting we take team sports with several players and split competition by Weight or Hormones like the 10 classes in wrestling? Why are we even entertaining ridiculous conversations with these people.
I admire Bill. He is pleading to Neil, to take a stand against the toxic narratives from the far left.
And we are pleading to bill. SHUT UP ALREADY.
@@jimweir6500
Don't we all in our way?
Bill is simply a public figure that we watch and judge according to our own beliefs, which in my opinion is what is wrong with the world!
Our world is ever-changing, instead of pushing our ideals on other people we should be learning how to get along while having differences of opinions and values. It's really the only way to live in peace!
What toxic narratives?? Dr. Tyson is watching some quack comic go on an unhinged rant.
@@jonnyfyre What’s unhinged about it?
Neil will always question. It’s in his nature. He probably taught student how to question everything lmao
I really enjoyed the jabbing of each other's perspective and professions. While I agree with Neil on a lot of the topics I still love Bill's perspective and quick wit. Bill is turning into Clint Eastwood from Tarino but with more jokes. I would love to see Bill go out there to those college crowds and win them over with his amazing humor that's been bestowed upon us over the decades. Be a hell of a challenge and I imagine some great jokes would be made.
Most of all. I was glad to a rational discussion at club random. Cheers gentlemen!
He isn't evolving as he ages like George Carlin did. He jumped the shark.
Maher loves to hear his voice
Says the guy posting that silly comment...
Sometimes you wonder if a person loves hearing themselves talk. You don’t need to wonder with this dude.
Which dude? 😂
I like how in the first few minutes NDT is already acting like he doesn't have personal biases and everything he stands for is all based on science.
This is one podcast that I will watch again and again and again and again. On my list of "NOT BORING" 😂❤
👏👏 Bill Mayher is speaking some serious truth Nowadays I used to hate him with a passion, but now find myself listening to him and agreeing with him. 👍👏👏
That seems like a you problem bc he’s kinda been on the same channel for a loooonnnngggg time
@@zjedinite Bill Maher has drastically changed. He still has certain views he hasn't changed from, but overall has clearly become more moderate. In the 90's he was definitely far left, and never would be agreeing with as many as he does now.
@@My-Name-Isnt-Important Bill is a smart man. The best comedians shift back and forth from left to right. George Carlin was the same way. It's their job to entertain everyone they can entertain. As a Non-Partisan Agnostic, I love it!
He’s good at what he does…but his “truths” are always subjective
He's speaking opinions, not truth. I think we learned the difference back in primary school.
YES LOVE THIS!! Let’s get Bill Burr on here please!!!
Maher was on Burr's podcast already.But yeah would be cool to switch
Love to see these demonstrations of bright, knowledgeable, influential, slightly opposed yet candid and real discussions. And real friends too!
Bill, I am not married, but I have a Man Cave! It's a shed refurbished into a music studio, gaming room, music room, and a place to relax away from the main house. My cave! I spend most of my waking hours in my man cave.
Man Caves are NOT just for married men wanting to get away from their spouse or family. It's a sanctuary and retreat for a man to do whatever he wants for whatever reason. It's alone time or it's time well spent with friends...and yes, family too. But it's his cave and everybody respects it as such.
However, let me be clear...I don't call my man cave a disco! LOL! Who am I? Absolutely NOT John Travolta!!! Peace and Cheers!
I am also a long-time fan--I doubt that I've missed one of your shows or specials in two decades. So, take me at my word. I'm in my man cave right now! Booyah!!! 🤩😎
Bill missed a golden opportunity to address all the recent serious injuries that females have suffered at the hands of biological males including the most recent incident of a girl getting her teeth knocked out.
Whatever
@@yukon4511yes, caring about women is so last century 😂
@@yukon4511 Absolutely disgusting not to care about men abusing women
He didn't miss any opportunity. This is just a podcast with two semi-drunk elderly man talking over each other. It's not their job to point out every single injustice happening in the world in the most fair way possible. Get over it and enjoy the fact we have access to conversations where people can still disagree.
@@devinw5150virtue signal much.
"We should segregate sports and school entrances according to who has balls and who has eggs." - Bill Maher, 2023
I agree. Stop segregating sports between male and female and just have one league and may the best athlete win. If it's all females then so be it.
@@larryw5533 All females will never beat all males in sports you dope. Look at any stats. Look how that trans woman beat the sh*t out of that real woman in an MMA match. Do you want to consistently see that? Men will always dominate women in sports except for an occasional fluke, like 1%
@@larryw5533😂😂 check mate crazies
@@larryw5533lol, you've never played sports in your life if you believe that. The average gap between men and women in most sports is enormous.
@@SploogeonGoogle-sl6wh And you know nothing about sarcasm.
Can hardly wait to watch this. Today is one of those days I just want to be pissed off. This should do it.😂😂
Want to be pissed off 😁
I love this pasta.
Holy shit that’s funny
Bill is the man of the year!! His position on not doing college shows, on why the students are like they are, and not allowing Tyson to call him an old man yelling at kids to get off his lawn was the best two minutes of any conversation I've heard in years. You are super gifted Bill, and you do the hard work to know what you believe to be true and communicate it. Outstanding!!!!
He's not George Carlin, too lazy to evolve, he's busy with his 20 yr old girlfriends..
Bill is really sensitive about that Old-man-on-the-lawn analogy 😆 He gets pissed every time someone says it. 😆
It’s a stupid way to counter an argument by trying to shame someone for being older.
It’s not about being older. - NDT is similar in age. It’s about Bill sounding like Kevin Harts impression of his grandfather. Look at that cat! Drinking milk! 😂😂😂
I agree with him that it is an annoying ad hominem but it is funny when he gets upset
@@TheDakota24 young people aren’t always right because my grandparents hated rock and roll. We all get the idea of older people fearing change. When you take a reasoned counter argument and try to cut it down at the knees because you’re trying to say “you’re just being a grumpy old man” you’re ignoring the actual argument and engaging in bad faith.
Bill sounds WOKE when he's complaining about ageism. So he's woke when it affects him
Neil really struggles with other people talking. Everywhere I watch him, same problem.
It’s adhd
Couldn't have said it better, literally does not want to hear anyone but himself... insuferable person
I’m a fan of. Dr. Degrasse Tyson’s and admire his intellect. But no one is right about everything. Hormones aren’t the answer when it comes to trans athletes. He should know this because it’s research based. Female hormone treatment only changes male physical performance by roughly 5%. That’s not enough to even out the male biological advantage. It’s a non-factor.
Bill is the same way lol
I 100% agree. Anyone who doubts this should watch his conversation with the Triggeronometry dudes.
Bravo. I loved the resourceful back and forth. This is how it used to be. People could disagree and not get butt hurt. If you respect the other and listen, we as humans could accomplish a lot. Loved this podcast
they did get butt hurt, recall the 200 abductees which had sore anuses’ 😂that was a light moment in otherwise contentious dialogue
Now if only the guests and talking heads on the MSM with stark differences in beliefs could respectfully debate like this. Mad respect for both of these guys.
Bill says “about how we ended Covid.” And Neil immediately takes a sip of wine 😂😂
Neil is holding a cognac glass.
@@stevepardis3244 and cognac is..............................wine
@@bobsmith-wg9fz Savage
Grand Mainer, Neil said.
Brandy isn’t wine
The world we live in is back-asswords. When Bill Maher talks more sense than an astrophysicist, you know we're in for a wild ride. But bless this conversation, it was fun!
Oh please...
compared to when we decided certain people were only 3/5 of a person? That's pretty wild, too, and yet here we still are 100s of years later
@@rje024 What the fuck does that even mean?
@@CazaDeYork it’s implying when black were worth 3/5 of a person. Now they aren’t now and slavery is still a thing that privileged America don’t care about because being a victim of atrocities you didn’t experience is in.
@@rje024what the fuck are you on about?
I’m so glad Bill calls Neil out on his woke nutjob bs.
When he said the bit about parents letting kids rule the roost, I threw my hands up with glee. Somebody finally said it.
@@danielferguson6063hasnt bill and 50+% of the country been saying that already? Bill has been wildly outspoken on “woke” for months and months now, to the point of losing entertainment value
Nobody is even being canceled lol. The game now IS to be canceled because then you grift to right wingers who think if they pay you $5.99 a month they get to hear you drop n bombs on Patreon lol and then it ends up being the same lame garbage that all failed comics like Jim Bruer spit on stage. "COVID, am I right, guys? What about that wokeness stuff, huh? Hey, I believe in a boy and a girl". They're stuck in a pandemic loop and can't escape because the Walmart crowd eats that shit up still.
@@Lonnie123yes, he has…
@@danielferguson6063 thing is, the younger generations are gonna do what they do regardless. They will shape society long after Bill passes away. Not an attack, just a fact. They can heed warnings from older gens, or not.
I really enjoyed watching this conversation. How sad that I watched this and thought it to be an anomaly. I totally remember a time where this type of exchange was the norm.
Living with Neil is the same feeling the Cheers customers had towards Cliff Clavin
lol this is like listening to my family talk at the holidays - a room full of overeducated overopinionated self absorbed interrupters 😂
I should come over for Thanksgiving
We need more of this.. a lot more
"I don't need history books because I lived it" Bill Maher. The problem with that ethos is that it only covers an extremely limited first person perspective. What about the history of all the other places, people experiences. It's impossible for someone to live everybody's history, and that's why we need to educate ourselves that there is a world beyond our perspective.
Bill lived it *and* is well-read in history. He attended Cornell University, where he double-majored in English and history, and graduated in 1978.
here's the thing, saying he lived it so he does not need to educate or find out in any way is like saying I've lived through the Ukraine war in the UK, and I know what they went through.@@FacebookCanKissMyAssbook
Damn, about 35 minutes in…Bill isn’t wrong in context, but as usual too proud to entertain another perspective, which actually has some merit. And if he calls one more grown ass man “sweetheart” I’m gonna lose my mind. It’s beyond condescending.
It’s the same as saying “ If you don’t vote, you can’t complain…”
Bill was a real ass here with his terms all night.
I want him to stop telling us how much he masterbated at 14. Ewww!
this was actually much more enjoyable than I thought it was going to be. Thanks.
what about Bill's Last Supper painting?? must be a story to that??
This is a fun debate. Happy to tune it.
I love that these guys are actual buddies. Best episode yet.
BIll's buddies with everyone he has on.
These guys are def not buddies. Bill hates anyone who disagrees with him, then becomes hypocritical, then tries to end the show early, then awkwardly tries to make light of the situation, then begs Neil to do a public talk because he chases clout since he's irrelevant.
Neil is only here because he believes everyone is equal and I thinks likes to balance the types of opinions he talks to to increase is Speech skill level.
Great discussion Bill. Genuinely.
Neil embarrassed himself on The Highwire with Del Bigtree. A very foolish intellectual indeed. ❌
The red X was a nice touch!
get mental help
2:55 the worst most stuck up wine snob I ever met with my dad who actually bought a full size refrigerator specially made for wine! That's when you should realize you have problems. Bill Maher and Neil deGrasse Tyson thank you so much for doing this episode Neil and thank you Bill for coming up with this series I love you both and has been faithful viewer of your shows for ages. I wish you all the best. You were both amazing at what you do
It's not that the kids are raised wrong- It's the introduction of the internet influencing. a generation's opinions. Parents are not the be all, end all in influencing their kids.
Bill knows nothing about kids, nothing, except for the girls he dates, he says he "learns" from them.
I love this, thank you for being real!! Both of you.
I think Neil is the only guest I've seen fully capable of shutting down Bill's attempts to interrupt him unlike the rest of Bill's guests that just stop talking because Bill like most liberals gets louder and louder to get his "more important point across". Neil shut that shtt down!!!🤣🤣🤣
Loved this show. Thanks!
I know for a fact that NDT was wrong at least once when he talked about GMOs when he proclaimed authoritatively that it used the same method as plant or animal breeders do. You cannot breed plant to contain say bacteria genes that are not in their genome already. He not only was wrong, he was insistently wrong. This is what the GMO industry wants people to think.
I love how neil started drinking when bill brought up covid😂😭
It’s because he knows he failed so hard on that.
@@Henrydingus01123same as the rest of his woke ideas and corrupted science and politics. He will never admit he got scammed.
NDT is to physics what Richard Simmons is to powerlifting
Was Richard Simmons a power lifter before he did the fruity work out vids
This was Great!!
1:02:58 is my favorite moment of this podcast.
Bill has his mind up and nothing can convince him
The problem with Neil trying to "navigate" the new culture is that he's unaware that he's trying to navigate through a trap. And the deeper he goes, without even knowing where he's navigating to, the more likely it is that he'll just get lost and never find his way back. Don't try navigating with a map that doesn't make sense or you'll just get lost with the rest of them. Which is exactly what's supposed to be happening, they're getting you to navigate right into a trap.
The bigger problem with him "navigating" is that he's avoiding the problems when he could be shining light on them. He's always been 100% focused on the other team's problems and not at all his own team's.
Yeah every time he says something that doesn't have to do with science it seems completely ignorant and not thought through @@danhalstead705
@@danhalstead705that’s where you’re wrong: there’s nothing to go back to. There’s only the future. You can fight it all you want and try to cling on but you’ll get swept with it, just like everyone else. Youth is always wrong, but also always right, because it just is.
@rdalge agreed. With you and Neil. Social mores and norms are going to change. Your options are to "navigate", as Neil said, and stay in the conversation and have SOME effect. Or disengage and have no effect.
The kicker: in the long run, and as far as the big picture goes - it doesn't matter. The only thing our choice will really affect is our own relationships.
@@rdalge That's bullshit. Swept by who? Loud kids with blue hair?
This is a phase, those kids are going to grow up and the new kids will be morphed with machines. This is just some crazy transitory phase that makes no sense and will pass, because people won't put up with it. Unless they're weak and spineless like Neil.
Poor Neil has to put up with Bill being drunk 😮😅
He's absolutely right science books are so much easier to get through with pictures!!
The consensus can be wrong (as we've seen too many times) - science is never settled.
Not true... there is such a thing as settled science
@@FreddyFuFuhave any examples?
Gravity. 1+1 = 2. Water is two hydrogen atoms combined with one oxygen atom. Physics, math and chemistry. @@calvincoolidge6627
If it's "settled," then it's not science. That's called religion.
@@calvincoolidge6627 He doesnt understand science
Bill: “come on the show and get high”
Neil: “ok I’ll bring the helium”
I'm a huge fan of both. I didn't know Maher was a nutter on the medical and alien stuff.
Neil is the perfect example that you can be a genius at a specific thing, and a complete idiot about everything else. The problem is that he clearly thinks he knows better than everyone on every subject and it comes of ignorant and arrogant.
Mmmm
No one can deny his showy arrogance which to Me detracts from his message as an Astrophysicist, he ventures into “Pop Culture”, maybe he shouldn’t
You're so right but I wouldn't even go so far as to call him a genius. He's a celebrity scientist. He's just famous because he's a black scientist and talks to dumb people well. He has contributed nothing significant to his field.
@chazly30 the liberals just eat him up, and we all know why.
Let me guess, because he isn't a MAGA!!!
The only time Neil is quiet is when someone is complimenting him.
These two were hilarious
As a 40yr old lifetime conservative, I've always liked and with this series have come to love Bill Maher. He's my new favorite brand of grumpy old man like a liberal Ron White , it's great
"The universe is under no obligation to make sense to you" perfect single-sentence dismantling of Bill's whole schtick
Is the universe under any obligation to make sense at all? I fail to see how a universe following rational and logical laws would be incomprehensible to a rational and logical mind.