Fallout's Cut Raiders - The Vipers and The Jackals

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  • Опубліковано 24 лис 2024
  • Episode 3 of Fallout - The Cutting Room Floor. In today's episode we take a look at Fallout 1's cut raiders, The Vipers and The Jackals. We also look at Shady Sands, Vault 15, Aradesh, Tandi, The Hub, The Kahn's and how these tribes would end up reappearing in both the design documents of Van Buren and Fallout New Vegas.
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  • @greengarnish1711
    @greengarnish1711 Рік тому +142

    I like to think the Vipers and Jackals were still there around F1 and F2 but just out of range for the player to interact with. Atleast we got them in FNV although very weak at this point thanks to the NCR and Rangers.
    Still for story sake it makes sense and I'm glad they're back in.

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  Рік тому +26

      I'm glad they included them in FNV, even if few players actually knew they were.

    • @benthenerd177
      @benthenerd177 Рік тому +4

      Before watching this video for some reason I was under the impression that they were in Fallout 1/2 and that the NCR was the reason they were so weak in NV.

    • @colddaze6680
      @colddaze6680 10 місяців тому +1

      There's a FNV raider mod ,that created lore specific armour and weapons for the Vipers. Bone armour and bone bows and venom poisoned arrows.
      Also clothing ,armour for Jackals were they wear some furs and leather armour and jackal heads as helmets. Like Vulpes wears. Jackals have cannibal perk as a default. As that's their practice,lore.I think you can join either groups in the mod, do side quests for them.

    • @LucyWest370
      @LucyWest370 5 місяців тому

      @@benthenerd177its said in the loading screens the ncr pushed them out

    • @OXY187
      @OXY187 11 днів тому

      @@LucyWest370 not only pushed them out, also butchered them in the process. What we see in New Vegas is just what’s left of them.

  • @phantom2450
    @phantom2450 Рік тому +330

    Inject these lengthy cut content videos into my veins like it’s Ultrajet

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  Рік тому +91

      *You've become addicted*

    • @MrQerson
      @MrQerson Рік тому +24

      Isn't (ultra)jet using a inhaler?

    • @SvendleBerries
      @SvendleBerries Рік тому +17

      @@MrQerson
      Yes, but with the right know-how drugs can be ingested in many different ways. With gas to liquid changes, the process is called "condensation".

    • @kesgamingbot1249
      @kesgamingbot1249 Рік тому +7

      I'm Ultragay, inject me too

    • @walterhaider869
      @walterhaider869 Рік тому +17

      Lore is a hard drug for true fans.

  • @davidponder1654
    @davidponder1654 Рік тому +75

    Props to nv for having the least amount of time and bringing the most amount of factions

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  Рік тому +17

      It was really cool they made an homage to the Vipers and Jackals

  • @girrig97
    @girrig97 Рік тому +62

    As always you do an invaluable service to the community and hope you know how much people appreciate your hard work and videos

  • @Grey8270
    @Grey8270 Рік тому +18

    The Vipers and Jackals are a tragic case as until new Vegas they always got screwed over besides the first fallout both gangs where meant to appear in Van Buren the Vipers would be lead by a man named Drake and the Jackals would be lead by Banshee other Jackals included Howler And Crazy Bitch lastly the Jackals where meant to appear in Fallout Brotherhood of Steel 2 Banshee would have returned as the leader of the Jackals the player would chase him through an airport until another Jackal named Bulldog appeared to fight the player during the fight Banshee would board a plane and escape later on the player would corner Banshee and interrogate him only for him to explode before he could talk

    • @isaiahjoseph7352
      @isaiahjoseph7352 Рік тому

      Jesus, sounds like it would've been fun to hunt them down on the og engine lol

  • @5t3v0esque
    @5t3v0esque Рік тому +14

    As a stargate fan it's funny hearing Killian (voiced by Richard dean Anderson) talk about them "worshipping snakes"

  • @cellulanus
    @cellulanus Рік тому +18

    It is ironic that they were brought back as nothing more then generic murderhobos.

  • @platinumshadow5626
    @platinumshadow5626 Рік тому +32

    The Fiends remain my favourite raider faction from the Fallout series.

  • @JaelaOrdo
    @JaelaOrdo Рік тому +14

    Cut raiders? Did Pickman get to them?

    • @Matt-md5yt
      @Matt-md5yt Рік тому +6

      I got that reference

    • @ajflink
      @ajflink 6 місяців тому

      I don't know; however, his art gallery in the Mojave has this alluring and venomous aura to it. Such vivid detail of the internal anatomy of humans in his works!

  • @Leafeye7942
    @Leafeye7942 Рік тому +4

    Ultimately though, I'm glad that you've got sponser to help make content more

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  Рік тому +1

      Thank you! They're making it possible for me to focus more on what I love, so I'm very thankful to have sponsors 💜💜💜

    • @Leafeye7942
      @Leafeye7942 Рік тому

      @@TriangleCity dude gag aside you are so relaxing to listen to, interesting, charming, and even your ads are entertaining. Thank you for being you man! Keep it up and don't get left in that cutting room floor

  • @barkbuck5521
    @barkbuck5521 Рік тому +15

    I'm bummed that we never see more of them in game, as their stories are pretty interesting and in addition to the Khans, also makes the NCR becoming what it has more impressive. Like everyone out of that vault became bastards except for one small group, and wouldn't have lasted without the intervention of a protag. Makes me wonder if they would have survived up to NV if either the Khans or NCR wiped each other out, as both of those factions aren't shy about conquest.

    • @ВашеДоверие
      @ВашеДоверие Рік тому +4

      Tbf, if it Shady Sands did not survive - another 'NCR' would've risen from The Hub, Junktown, Necropolis or any other town of survivors. Ofc, it would've also been drastically different both in ideals, symbolism and structure.

    • @colddaze6680
      @colddaze6680 10 місяців тому

      NCR, Khans, Jackals and Vipers all came out of the same vault yeah?

  • @SPECTRA_87
    @SPECTRA_87 Рік тому +14

    If the next fallout does not have a raider gang called the murder hobos, it's gonna be a missed opportunity.

  • @joseybryant7577
    @joseybryant7577 Рік тому +4

    The old VHS tape aesthetic is so pleasant

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  Рік тому +5

      Thank you so much dude! 💜💜💜

  • @Jayneyy
    @Jayneyy Рік тому +8

    Dude your videos are just the best! Thank you for all your hard work and amazing videos this year!!

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  Рік тому +1

      Thank you so much for supporting my channel! 🖤🖤🖤

  • @Rohnon
    @Rohnon Рік тому +3

    Brother, did you read my mind?
    I'm currently collecting info on the Vipers and Jackals to flesh them out!
    Thanks alot for the vid, man!

  • @AdaraHepburn938
    @AdaraHepburn938 Рік тому +1

    You should make a UA-cam playlist with the songs you use as background music because you use absolute bangers

  • @bluebandit5586
    @bluebandit5586 Рік тому +3

    This has quickly become one of my favorite channels

  • @ImYourGuyAustin
    @ImYourGuyAustin Рік тому +7

    Yes!!! more content from the main man himself. thanks so much my guy. love your content

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  Рік тому +2

      Thank you so much dude! 💜💜💜

  • @polaris9009
    @polaris9009 Рік тому +6

    I always hate hearing your outro begin... because it means the video is at the end

  • @EanFox7
    @EanFox7 Рік тому +5

    The man, the myth, the triangular man has struck back with another banger video

  • @Tacdelio
    @Tacdelio Рік тому +3

    the mass effect galaxy travel menu music is my ringtone, makes me anxious every time i hear it lol

  • @tacoman736
    @tacoman736 Рік тому +1

    Awesome you’ve been able to do this for years, glad for each post

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  Рік тому

      Thank you so much for watching! 💜💜💜

  • @CyanEyed07
    @CyanEyed07 Рік тому +3

    While I don't care for Raid Shadow Legends, I gotta admit it's a fitting sponsor for the video.

  • @SGTMasterBean
    @SGTMasterBean Рік тому +4

    Babe wake up new TriangleCity video just dropped

  • @brianmartinez1412
    @brianmartinez1412 Рік тому +17

    Can you make a video on Salem? I felt there were missed opportunities there with only one quest involving a crazy guy killing mirelurks.

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  Рік тому +16

      I definitely will at some point, but I currently have a long backlog of videos in the works already, regarding Tactics, The Combat Zone, Old World Blues, modding videos, etc.

  • @hiltwo
    @hiltwo Рік тому +2

    Always excited for a new Triangle City video, thank you!! :)

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  Рік тому +1

      Thank you for watching! 🖤🖤🖤

  • @jokroast6912
    @jokroast6912 Рік тому +9

    If the factions were collapsed down into one, does that mean that some khans you fight are replaced raiders from the other two factions?

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  Рік тому +3

      I'm not so sure. Other than Garl Deathhand, the Khans only have two named NPCs you can speak to and neither of them seem related to the Vipers/Jackals, but it's possible their names were at least recycled.

  • @BronsoloTV
    @BronsoloTV Рік тому +8

    Nice! Been meaning to research the raider gangs for some videos soon. You’re the best man ❤

  • @asphaltape
    @asphaltape Рік тому +3

    i think in new vegas the vipers should of been a full faction a minor one but still a faction their motivations being gaining the ability to mobilize in order to retake their holy land. if with the legion you convince them to join but if you join the vipers then go into the legion you can help the vipers indoctrinate a significant portion of the legion while joining them giving the legion vipers special purple and red armor with a reskin of that one armor that has the banner hanging above the head but with a viper on the banner this giving a special ending if caesar dies the legion becoming unified under the serpent everything throwing in little details referencing roman cults throughout this whole plot direction. The NCR's version of the quest would just be a go here kill everyone quest

  • @ashtondoublet8334
    @ashtondoublet8334 Рік тому +14

    Hey so I just found this a couple of days ago in Fallout 3, but in the Franklin metro station cell space, a little ways south of the main station and platform are two nearly identical sqare rooms, I had no clue this existed and pondered of this had anything to do with any cut space or anything, probably just a place for enemies to spawn or something but I still have no clue what it could be, perhaps this is of interest to you considering you have been going through a bunch of Fallout 3 cut content recently.

  • @CrumpledPaperHearts
    @CrumpledPaperHearts Рік тому

    The Mass Effect soundtrack playing in the background has me feeling some kind of way.

  • @Ghostface6
    @Ghostface6 Рік тому +3

    Another amazing post. I wonder what series you will move onto after fallout

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  Рік тому +1

      Thank you so much dude! I'm considering doing some one offs on non-Fallout games.

    • @contramachina354
      @contramachina354 Рік тому

      @@TriangleCity please do Oblivion or TES in general

  • @nicklenuts
    @nicklenuts Рік тому +2

    Honestly I did think it was weird when I was younger how they are basically just fiends with a different name

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  Рік тому +1

      Particularly since they're barely mentioned throughout the entire game. Even if you had played F1 there's a good chance you still wouldn't know who they were, short of reading the Fallout Bible.

  • @JeremiahSablan
    @JeremiahSablan 4 місяці тому

    Man, endless companions? That would’ve came in handy in my first play through of fo1..

  • @beairmann
    @beairmann Рік тому +1

    DAMN I wasn’t here first, here still though! Good stuff as always my man.

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  Рік тому +1

      Thank you so much as always dude! 🖤🖤🖤

  • @some-replies
    @some-replies Рік тому +4

    Unrelated fallout question
    When should I do point lookout? Before starting broken steel?

    • @Cherridayze
      @Cherridayze Рік тому +2

      You should do it some time

    • @Toxic_Korgi
      @Toxic_Korgi Рік тому +2

      After since point lookouts enemies are a lot tougher compared to the enemies in broken steel.

  • @TwoBs
    @TwoBs Рік тому +4

    I have nothing of value to add that hasn’t already been said, so commenting to help the channel in the algorithm. ❤️
    Always love these vids - they’re great while I work on mods.

  • @robertjackson5925
    @robertjackson5925 Рік тому +1

    These npc's could have helped flesh out those open empty arias that are sometimes bland to traverse...

  • @jonwashburn7999
    @jonwashburn7999 Рік тому +1

    Thanks. Always wondered about them.

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  Рік тому +1

      Thank you for watching! 💜💜💜

  • @ZappBranniglenn
    @ZappBranniglenn Рік тому +1

    You don't know how badly I want to earn a perk called Snake Eater in a Fallout game. Also, there's a bizarre lack of snake enemies in Fallout. Spiders too. How odd

    • @Austin-gj7zj
      @Austin-gj7zj Рік тому +1

      Snakes would be much harder to put in than another humanoid or quadruped. They require a unique skeleton, unique animations, different pathing, etc. That's super expensive for an enemy that you probably wouldn't see in more than a handful of locations. That being said, it would be super cool.

  • @Kevlashnikov
    @Kevlashnikov Рік тому +1

    Tunnel Snakes Rule.

  • @Garnansoa
    @Garnansoa Рік тому +1

    wtf the Vipers sound fucking awesome why where they just generic goons in FNV

  • @wastelandnerd
    @wastelandnerd Рік тому

    This video is awesome to create some RPG stories... Thank you!

  • @Ted4321
    @Ted4321 Рік тому

    I love this,can't wait for more fallout 4 and skyrim/elden scrolls in general

  • @ScorpionCar
    @ScorpionCar Рік тому +1

    25:56 - Great gem of a video! What song is playing here?

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  Рік тому +2

      Thank you so much! Uncharted Worlds from the Mass Effect OST!

    • @ScorpionCar
      @ScorpionCar Рік тому

      @@TriangleCity Awesome song! Thank you so much! The song is great for videos.

  • @kerjectroter3761
    @kerjectroter3761 Рік тому

    That would be awesome if they added the two other raiders to the game. That would be a great reboot for the Franchise.

  • @Vaniity_Velvet
    @Vaniity_Velvet Рік тому +1

    The Vipers make no sense. If their entire belief system revolves around constant sacrifices and ingesting deadly Venom, where are they getting the fresh bodies? They aren't the only ones in the area that need Humans, Super-Mutants also do. I do not think that part of America would have anywhere near a large enough population of Humans and/or Ghouls to make them feasible. Unless the Giant Viper Venom actually wasn't all that deadly and they just randomly selected who among them would be sacrificed. That seems more realistic. A Giant Snake likely wouldn't have potent venom as there would be no need for it due to it's staggering size.

  • @sideofhashbrowns660
    @sideofhashbrowns660 Рік тому +2

    Oh hell yeah!

  • @danielsurvivor1372
    @danielsurvivor1372 Рік тому

    5:58 What about Vault City in F2? Wasn't this THE group that left Vault 15 with Geck?

  • @allansmith211
    @allansmith211 Рік тому

    Is that the mass effect soundtrack I hear in the background? Specifically galaxy map music iirc

  • @jbrody38
    @jbrody38 Рік тому +1

    Where do you get your music from?

  • @Chedring
    @Chedring Рік тому +2

    always a neato video.

  • @tylerramos7633
    @tylerramos7633 Рік тому +1

    It took me three different tries at starting fallout 1 before I could actually get into it but god damn once I did that game became my favorite in the series. Anybody who is a fan of retro games has to play fallout.

  • @chilldude30
    @chilldude30 Рік тому +1

    Woohoo this sounds great

  • @sinisterisrandom8537
    @sinisterisrandom8537 Рік тому +3

    Hopefully, someone makes a mod for FO1, 2, 3, and NV. All being connected. One day that is.

  • @ommino2174
    @ommino2174 Рік тому +1

    I just wish they expand on the aftermath of the master the psychers and other stuff. And just remake 3 and nv with all cut content easiest millions to make

  • @owenness6146
    @owenness6146 Рік тому

    You know what, I love your channel and I'm not going to skip that sponsor spot.

  • @michaelsilver253
    @michaelsilver253 8 місяців тому

    Great War happened on October 23rd, not October 3rd... October 3rd 2077 will be my 90th birthday haha

  • @concept5631
    @concept5631 5 місяців тому

    5:49 Vipers
    23:46 Jackals

  • @girrig97
    @girrig97 Рік тому +1

    Was the sponsor choice on purpose for the topic?

  • @mando482
    @mando482 Рік тому +1

    Anybody remember the cut line when you raided Mr. House's chambers to access his body? After you activate the wall door with the terminal, Mr. House's line "It's Fallout time!" Is played. And the courier jingle-jangles past the securitrons and kills him.

  • @hideakiakio6698
    @hideakiakio6698 Рік тому

    Where did you find the New Vegas mod that adds fallout 4 raider armor in the thumbnail

  • @FatBoy42069
    @FatBoy42069 Рік тому

    and then they sent a detachment to West Vergina. In 2010.

  • @684avatar
    @684avatar Рік тому +1

    One of original raider clans from California reduced to just random villains with no lore smh

  • @zacharymccants77
    @zacharymccants77 Рік тому

    Is there any cut content regarding the lore behind Nuka Cola Quartz and Victory? It always bugged me that there was never any kind of story or explanation for them.

    • @TriangleCity
      @TriangleCity  Рік тому +1

      Not that I'm aware of, but it's possible it existed at one point and was deleted. Bethesda were much better at deleting unused content that Obsidian

  • @FrostyFoxDrake
    @FrostyFoxDrake 9 днів тому

    2:36 mantis gauntlet

  • @jameshouse7862
    @jameshouse7862 Рік тому

    I love the feinds and khans

  • @Matt-md5yt
    @Matt-md5yt Рік тому +1

    hey glad you talked about some Raiders my friend, wish Bethesda would have fleshed them out better same with Gunners and Talon Company

  • @BLOODSETTA
    @BLOODSETTA Рік тому

    what's the song in 27:52

  • @concept5631
    @concept5631 5 місяців тому

    22:11 Van Buren Vipers

  • @tlip3480
    @tlip3480 7 місяців тому

    The slavers from fallout 3 were cool too. It's a terrible thing but completely believable.

  • @concept5631
    @concept5631 5 місяців тому

    0:01
    Done

  • @Joel-e3b
    @Joel-e3b Рік тому

    R E S O N A N C E H O M E

  • @Ryuko-T72
    @Ryuko-T72 8 місяців тому

    Jackals sounds like what the pack in nuka world should have been, instead of a weird gang of furry's

  • @johnjafon2410
    @johnjafon2410 Рік тому +1

    based

  • @WarDogMadness
    @WarDogMadness Рік тому

    Vipers followers of set. jackels followers jabalzog. Probably not but be cool conan nod if they were.

  • @G34RH34D
    @G34RH34D Рік тому +1

    The only interesting raiders were from Fallout 3. That anarchistic punk aesthetic made them enjoyable to listen to.

  • @SlaaneshsBestBoy
    @SlaaneshsBestBoy Рік тому +1

    Murder hobos

  • @ryanvandoren1519
    @ryanvandoren1519 Рік тому +1

    Bro I can't stop farting..

  • @robertjackson5925
    @robertjackson5925 Рік тому +1

    U are thw phycho and mentats to my entertainment as U are the phycho an mentats to dr mobeus biojell

  • @katinthehat1420
    @katinthehat1420 Рік тому

    Gamer

  • @Sofus.
    @Sofus. Рік тому +1

    🐍🐈

  • @eclipseRz
    @eclipseRz Рік тому +2

    First yehaw

  • @ImmaSpam__________________Can
    @ImmaSpam__________________Can Рік тому +4

    God I love dill pickles, I know this doesn't have anything to do with the video but dill pickles are good

  • @allofthelightsbykanyewest
    @allofthelightsbykanyewest Рік тому

    we’re with the vipers

    • @tomasfennigbauer7927
      @tomasfennigbauer7927 7 місяців тому +1

      “Oooo really, what’s that your Girl Scouts group?”

  • @Gubbins_McBumbersnoot
    @Gubbins_McBumbersnoot Місяць тому

    When you realize Shattered Space is just a poor re telling of cut fallout content 😮