She Interviewed A Former Incel
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- Опубліковано 19 гру 2023
- Asmongold Reacts to Uncovering Incels Documentary
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@@TRUMAN_THE_TRUE_MANwtf
He is our King!
Why in every video lately asmon is constantly patting himself on the back praising himself for how right he is? He wasn’t like this before the dentures was he? I’m afraid they’ve boosted his ego too much…
@@Javaris_Jamarthe hell kind of thing is that to say…. Jesus.
I kinda dislike citing quotes but so much boils down to "The child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth"
That's hard
The issue here is that to be a legitimate incel requires you to have misconceptions about reality, in the case of incels it's more like "The child who does not know how to talk to the girls of the village will be an angry shut in who believes the village is the one secluding him."
@@duewhat9815 lol what a very shallow world view you have
@@Toefoo100 That's not a world view that's what an incel is...an incel isn't the outcast, an incel is the person who secludes themselves by choice then acts like they're an outcast because they find themselves without a woman.
Never heard that expression before but it slaps.
TBH the largest reason I dont have a GF is that I`m not social at all. I mostly stay by my self.
People need communities. You gotta open up. maybe try a hobby that requires socializing, like a sport or even just community service. Just be willing to talk to people, be the person you wish would approach you and be your friend
@young-salt Not everyone wants that, I've dated successfully before but nowadays I just don't meet anyone. I go to work and I pursue my hobbies. All of my hobbies are solo activities, and I don't think it's acceptable nowadays to ask people out at work. The prospect of taking up hobbies im not very interested in or volunteering time for the gamble of meeting someone sounds like a shit deal. I'm a reasonably attractive dude and an engineer, I just don't meet new people.
@@coje7412 similar boat here. All my activities are solo so there really is not point to go out and meet people.
@@coje7412 Its not really socially acceptable to ask women out in general anymore, it's not just at work.
@@coje7412this is gonna sounds wrong but people don’t want that they NEED it. It’s about doing something you don’t want to do in order to be happier on the other end.
The reason why I'm a virgin and single for very long with the age of 31 is, that I was bullied in school what destroyed my self esteem. Even now I'm extremely shy when it's about asking a woman out for a date. The only blame I could give woman that most of them expect that the man makes the first approach. But of course the reality is way more complex and I'm mostly at fault. By the way I'm talking about real life. Dating apps is a completely different topic.
Good luck bro, may Allah heal you.
just get used to rejection it happens to all of us and some more that others. Fake it till you make it because it really works, you are missing the easiest times to land ladies in my opinion, 27-38 this is where men become more desirable if you been focusing on career and LIVE ON YOUR OWN, if you still live mommy and daddy you are doomed plain and simple. Money is not everything but being independent goes a long way.
The real problem is that you are stuck in the headspace, you are 31 now, how long was since you got bullied? Change comes from inner reflexion and willpower, if you dont have any of those, you need to force it, change, maybe even leave the things you love to do behind.
I am shy too, but luckily I got a front desk job which forced me to talk to pp , answering public calls. many colleagues says I am good, but it is just experience and I had no choice😂 I need to finish the enquiry and let them leave me alone
There are absolutely disgusting men out there personality wise with beautiful women. Be kind, show interest, and look for signs. If it doesn't work out then you learned from experience on how to approach it next.
"He quoted Garrosh in his Manifesto!'
Civilization can not ascend any higher.
wtf is Garrosh?
@@Microphunktv-jb3kj What? You watch Asmongold and do not know who Garrosh is? And you also do not know how to Google things that you don't know? Shocking.
i've been called an incel before but i never realized real incels were this bad this actually left me speechless
These days you get called one for disagreeing with someone's political opinions. Don't be quick to adopt the label, just because someone called you that.
Every men has been called an incel at least once on the internet lol
You can't call a girl out on her bad behaviour and you're immediately an incel.
The word has lost its meaning, if some dumb ass called you it then they probably ran out of things to say to you.
Majority of incels are peaceful and surprisingly left leaning. Yeah they're pretty lacking in the social skills. They mostly go with the TFL or true forced loneliness. Society usually gets alarmed whenever there's a ton of young guys not getting anywhere they either get violent or enough of them checkout of life that the society stagnates and decays.
the fact you acknowledge you are being called out ( self evaluation) already disqualifies you as an incel bro.
bc "incel" is the new "virgin", any man was or will be called an "incel" on the internet at least once nowadays.
And women continue to use "incel" as an insult against any guy who disagrees with them surely will make this worsening problem go away.
Surely.
Pretty much spot on, especially when you call out their hypocrisy. Most groups I see doing that are making points with the faults of women, but you're not allowed to either criticize women or call them out for their behavior. Just look at the single mothers' conversation, which triggers women.
People that have it all want to pretend it all works in the same way for everybody, which it doesn't, that why all those motivational speeches are just garbage fantasies.
Yeah it's 2024 and it's still their go-to response to any kind of inconvenient truth that they don't want to hear, much easier to just call them an incel than to consider their point.
@@luminous6969 "woke" for the other party. It's funny.
I have mostly heard other men calling men incels
@@angelit161 men will blame everything on women anyway
Makes you wonder if the FBI is on these forums encouraging this behavior, too. This is the world we live in.
Could be. Are you a Fed ?
Of course they do every 3 alphabet organization does to spark an action to use as a false flag to target
There are literally hours of videos on Tiktok of women shitting on men for simply being short and/or ugly, but it is personality that is important. I think that is why some men "become" incels.
8/10 chances the reason is a domineering, overbearing, overprotective or over negligent, controlling and toxic mother figure, who treats the son as either an extension of herself, or a pet she thinks is always 6 years old and doesn't allow to grow up. The men who did not know how to break out of that toxic relationship in a healthy way will project that toxicity to all women. Worse, some men don't even know that that's what's happened to them. They have no other mothers to compare to.
Pretty much this, it makes me laugh when people try to paint this as a "social skills" problem.
I used to have friends from 15+ different countries and be very sociable and couldn't get a date to save my life, maybe I'd get a girlfriend every few years for a while.
At 30 I said fuck this shit and focused 100% on looks and making more money. I have no close friends (they moved back to other countries) and I barely go out, but can easily date multiple women without even trying.
It's braindead easy to date when you look good, you can be the most boring person ever and women love you.
Well rise above that. Don't be what you also hate.
None of my friends who would “only date tall guys” all ended up with guys under 5’8😂 including me
@@senzatieee Exactly this. It's awful how women are lying they are not shallow (and they always project it on men, like there is only toxic MASCULINITY, but toxic femininity apparently doesn't exist? All women are good? Or they talk only about male lncels, but totally ignore all that hate on men in every media), when in fact they will just never admit to it.
Social media has been an enormous detriment to society. People no longer feel the need to interact in person when they can get all the social validation and attention online.
ANTISOCIAL Media.
Because it doesn't bring us together, it further divides us into tribes.
Not people, just women.
@Intension123 it's definitely men and women
@@Intension123”Not people just women” meanwhile THIS WHOLE VIDEO is about men with this issue 😂
Thing is even without it things would still be fucked its just another thing. There are like 100 things dooming society at once.
I think the biggest issue is telling guys that they need to be taller, make more money, work out, improve on their personality, improve on their speech/vocals, improve on social situations, get rid of figurines/posters/toys/magic the gathering cards/collectables, stop playing games, etc. etc. You end up eventually thinking to yourself "what are women getting told to do?".
Most guys if they had a 4/10, 5/10, 6/10 or higher girl come up to them, and ask them out, and they were single, they would consider it or accept it. However women often have guys come up to them throughout their life, and quickly deny most of them, and can easily get a partner if they wanted, but often choose not to because of work/career/self-interest. Not to say this is a bad or a good thing, it's jus the way things are.
The standards for men are higher, and some guys end up giving up because of that, especially if they are already born with disadvantages like bad looks, short height, poor environment, etc.
I've had girlfriends before, and practically every single one was terrible for my mental state. It was never a romantic switch and then we connected perfectly and went on our way. If anything, a girl accepting to be with me was a huge deal, and then after the relationship ended, I'd be left with no one for years while my ex would be in a new sexual/romantic relationship within the coming months, and for them that relationship was just one of many to come, nothing special.
I don't condone misogyny or pedophilia or rape threats from these groups, but it is genuinely rough for guys, and I feel like that is often overlooked. It's easy to just call these guys incels and move on, but they'll live with depression, anxiety, and probably either end up killing themselves or hurting others, and calling them incels and being hurtful to them is just added fuel to that fire. Especially if the people you're calling incel aren't actually apart of this harmful subsect of incels - you're just pushing them towards hating society and joining these groups. It's mental illness and social isolation that's causing this. We need to have an open conversation and try figure this out as a society, just like we have done for other social issues.
Indeed guys have to move mountains with their bare hands or they are deemed worthless while women get to ride the cable car on the mountain your pushing free of charge
@@vergillives9890 Good analogy.
I know it's hard being shy. I feel like I haven't made a single friend since 6th grade and I was bullied a lot as a kid. It really upsets me and I feel like something is wrong with me. I feel lucky I found someone who likes me despite how weird I am.
As a lady, I never considered people who just walked up and asked me out. How could they know me? No thanks, it's purely physical at that point.
Not every lady cares about physical appearances or how much money you make. If you can both laugh together, you have an in.
There are nice girls out there that feel just as weird and lonely as you do. They have to put themselves out there to be found and so do you. If they are a greedy money hungry wench, you dodged a bullet. A real woman will defend and support you endlessly.
Ps: Modern women do have to surrender a lot in a relationship, but that isn't the focus right now. It's correct that men have toxic ideals pushed on them from a young age. The barrier to entry is less for women, but once we are in a relationship we have to do more (work full time, raise children , and care for our husbands.(most men don't clean or cook at all so all of it falls on women))
Both parties have to work on themselves. I dont blame women for not wanting to date these losers
Yes, you can feel sorry for them to a degree and a number of women could be foolishly throwing away decent guys from consideration but the hard truth is you cannot and should never force attraction. People are attracted to who they want to and that is that.
Part of this issue could be society told lies to generations and people in general that life is fair or should be fair. Life is not fair to anyone I think in different ways but a number of people haven't accepted this reality.
asmongold acting like he wouldn't be an incel if he wasn't a famous streamer
Holy shit our lord and Savior pingee in the wild
@@ryukobestwaifu3319 ryuko 😍😍😍
Based af
Single monitor, that’s his problem
The lying, delusion and intellectual dishonesty of this situation is only going to make this situation *worse* for every single society. 🤦
This. 10000000%.
Right. Not all of us incels want to harm women or anyone for that matter.
bruh they literally portraying incels as terrorists in this documentary lol
@@perc-aibecause many of you are. Go do something else instead of hanging on the echo chamber incel forums.
@@bobjoe5937Then what is it that makes you an incel? You're not an incel just because you're involuntary single.
One problem I see is that the term gets thrown around loosely. I've seen guys who are married with kids get called incels. Like wtf.
The term has been coopted and misused by liberals as a synonym for "person I don't like or agree with"
I have kids and I'm an incel.
its because it's a general purpose insult. it's like calling someone an autist for whatever reason
This is just mental warfare a this point.
On his comment on the way men message women, I didn't believe it until my wife showed me her DMs when we were dating. It's vile and gross the way some of these boys behave.
What's crazy is that so many of those dudes say the exact same thing.
Men*
Why were you DMing your wife with vile and gross messages?
Lol @@HandleToBeDetermined
Why is it surprising?
They get no female attention now or while younger, that's only for the popular dudes
They probably grew up in *single mother homes*
Their parents probably told them some nonsense advice like "juSt be YOUrsELf"
Of course they don't know how to interact, because nothing they were told works 🤣
The hair throwback💀Thanks for the shoutout, glad to see you got around to watching Part 2!
Never thought I'd see the day when SBS replied to a youtube vid.
"A potential threat to national security" lmfao
I find it funny that the government acts as if they were a big terrorist threat, even though just 2 or 3 therapy sessions and a grooming coach would fix 90% of these guys
And I'm sure they'll be doing that on their own soon right
Lol incels are the smallest threat out there. All talk. Just let them waste away on the dark corners of the internet
? Therapy doesn't fix women bud.
@@refugeehugsforfree4151 found the incel 😂
government doesn't give a shit about shootings or incels
I was that weird kid in class that got bullied and had horrible grades and no prospects in life. Luckily I was able to get with a big titty redhead and we have been together for 10 years and married for 2. Its crazy to think that if not for a couple of factors I could have ended up as an incel. I think the main factor was a great role model in the owner of the company I worked for mentoring me and my dad being around and a positive influence. If you don't have strong male role models this shit happens. As for the wife I have no advice. I just got lucky
Lol, that is hilarious how you described your wife. I hope you two will always be happy together and have each other's wonderful support. 😂❤
Bro pulled Christina Hendricks💀
You heard it here fellas, if you don’t have a father just give up and reset. 🤷♂️
@@OhImSaucy basically yes. There are so many metrics that prove my point.
@@lobotomite9767 ight ima head out.
Biggest dilemma is. How tf do you meet someone that doesn't like to go out to clubs or bars? I don't like going to those places so how tf you go out and meet people that don't like going out??
If you have a passion or hobby and follow those, you will automatically meet like-minded people who fit your lifestyle :) at least that was my experience when I started dancing or getting into art a year ago. met new people, made new connections and even friends. if you try to meet people on online dating apps or in bars, you obv. will meet a special kind of people. if your hobbies consist of staying home, you can look for online communities or best, add another activity that takes place outside your home
traditionally, the community center used to be .. well.. church.🤷♂️. everyone went there, they were all dressed nicely, and talking too each other was highly encouraged.
we may have lost something by removing that aspect from our lives
If you're into sports, go to sporting events. If you're into anime, go to anime conventions. If you like cars, go to car shows. If you're into politics, go to debates. Grow your friend circle by getting to know your friends' friends. Eventually some of them will be women and there's a higher chance you'll have something in common. Don't just exclusively look for women that you're interested in.
If you have absolute no hobbies that involve other people than why the hell do you want a partner?
Even in MMOs you interact with other people. In fact I met my fiance through a MMO and we are happily together for over a decade.
But if you never interact with other people than yea you never will find someone. That's kinda self fulfilling.
@@orangebubble8739what is MMO?
I used to talk to a lot of people, guys and girls both but once I stopped to be the first one to msg or start a conversation the only people I was talking to were guys.
sounds about right.
only guys do that. either online or real life it's exceptionally rare for a women to start a convo. and if they do it's usually because they're trying to sell you something.
Bruh, don't blame the incen forum on the girl going in there for attention. Lmao. What kind of attention was she going to get while playing e-girl in there.
As cringe as the guys. Imagine it's your daughter and she's entretaining adult weirdos trying to make a move on her because she seeks the attention. That's fucked up squared.
Kids are going to do be emotional and stupid because of their hormones and it's up to us adults to protect them. Incels are not an exception to that. You do NOT prey on children, no matter how shit your life is.
Her going to the forum where guys struggle to talk to girls and go on the forum to vent then stays seeing what they post on their for attention
@@vergillives9890that’s part of what made this documentary so ridiculous
Women are complaining about getting the wrong kind of attention.
Men are complaining about getting no attention at all.
The internet is a really scary place man. I've spiraled after seeing some stuff that I wish I never saw and found myself on /b/ more and more often. In general it was just repeated posts of the same overused meme, but you would brush up against really vile threads on there and start to get desensitized. I found myself changing into a really dark person who just hated everything and everyone. I took it upon myself to never go back and start to fix myself (this stuff leaves scars that you slowly have to heal over time)
I don't think people realize how nasty girls can be. Starting about 6th grade, it was amazing how they started treating guys and girls who they felt were inferior to them.
It was straight up evil, and they were able to get away with it because they were girls. So there's definitely some merit to how these guys feel, but they also compound their situations by being strange.
Don't let it get to you. You can't let words hold you back forever. Just get up and try again
That's because everyone, including this comment section and asmon, are being intellectually dishonest about the entire situation, which is *fundamentally* why the *Red Pill* space formed and blew up in the first place.
People keep *LYING* about the facts and logic of whats going on, which is dumb because it's just going to keep exacerbating the problem 🤦
@@Astronautadelvoid it was more of an observation than anything else. I've got 2 kids and a job, I keep my hair and face neat, and I'm doing ok lol.
I just don't like how society treats men like they are less than. We've got all these services set up for women, but men who are struggling often get shunned, and then when something bad happens, see? It's men! They're dangerous.
Almost all of the vital roles in society are performed by men, but get the second class citizen treatment. Meanwhile, the women get coddled and celebrated. It just doesn't add up.
All the bullying I experienced as a guy came from girls, both mentally and physically, I can see and understand why incels feel hated because I was one of them.
Yeah it sucks, but we gotta teach young men how to cope with reality; most people are just idiots, and one should just ignore them.
I’ve seen guys be just as bad tbh, kids (and people in general) are awful regardless of gender. Honestly in my experience the guys were always worse than the girls. Yet despite that I almost became an incel myself lmao. I don’t think there’s any excuse for acting like they do. They just find women as easy targets to take their anger out on.
There was a guy that cold approached my friend at the gym and took her rejection really badly. He didn’t realize that we were in the middle of a conversation and he stood in front of me while he asked for her number, when we were mid conversation. A good way to get rejected immediately is disrespecting her friends and he made a horrible impression right off the bat. Cold approaches are totally ok, but so many people can’t read the room or notice social cues. He could have waited for a break in our conversation and she might have accepted, but he chose to be rude.
Or he just isn't good looking for your girl friend
@@globalcitizenful He was very good looking. My friend even told him that he was blessed with good looks but nothing was spared for his manners. He got angry at her for him being rude and called her a stuck up bitch instead of realizing he was being a giant dick. He seemed like the type who was used to getting what he wanted. We’re in our late 30’s and don’t have the time or energy to raise a man child that should already know better.
Your friend made you miss out on a good dude probably. Women friends keep them single a lot of times.
I mean its possible your friend was trying to ignore him (and using you to do that) and he fed into that
I’m sure Jeremy Meeks could’ve done it
Needlessly attacking anime... again.
I havent met one normal person in the west into anime.
Dude.. I know you don’t think it plays a role. I used to be really defensive about it. But anime and the infantilization of women has led to some really deep crazy shit. It’s not needless; there is nothing normal about sexualizing a characters that look like infants because they’re supposedly old af. There is a reason Japanese culture has the problems it does and that problem is spreading, PERIOD
@@Cadkerkboohoo
@@Jigglexphysics Don't you think that's a personal problem rather than a collective one?
@@ProtossHyrdalisk Of course not, the only things that get to you is the bad stuff that enters your bubble.
Asmon is a barely functional man himself lmao.
its funny seeing him react to this.
I wonder where he would be if streaming wasn't a thing...
Probably working in the irs
My content is fire compared to Asmongolame 😆⚡️😁😁🔥
still rich
definitely a functional man
He worked for the IRS and went to college and I'm pretty sure he has a business degree.
He would be fine
I'm paraplegic and the times I have went to the park nearby I rarely get acknowledged. Only a handful of times have someone said hi or smiled at me. Same happens when I go to restaurants; the waitresses usually ask my Dad or other family member 'What does he want to order?'
Likely my power wheelchair scares them. I don't see =myself as an incel, but after experiencing these things for a long time I understand the saying 'People love their cats or dogs more than humans.'
its truly painful to be invisible
wow this is horrible
i mean yeah, why would someone talk to a random person they dont know.
I asked out a number of women out I didn't know immediately over my lifetime.
A number rejected me but a few accepted my advances.
Women do not for the most part ask men out. I used to think it was because they did not want to be perceived as a whore even if I think if that perception exists it is ridiculous.
In any case, men are told explicitly and sometimes subtly by society they are meant to be the chasers or more specifically the ones to make a first move.
Of course even doing so never guaranteed romance but if straight men did not ever they would end up alone in life.
My question to you is... Do YOU ever smile and say hi to people or do you just expect it to go towards you?
It's funny to me how most of these incels are actually decent looking guys, like..And most of them are early 20's or teens.There is plenty of time for self improvement and dating and they are wasting their time being chronically online and delusional.
Yep.
Knowing how the internet was in the '90s, and how it is somehow even way worse now, I'm terrified for my kids to be online. I have 3 boys and I really don't think I will allow them to have any unsupervised internet access until they're at least older teenagers.
Treat the root cause not the symptoms my guy make you sure your kids have a happy kid life
I think the best strategy is to include your sons in activities where being platonic and friendly with girls and women is normal. Then girls aren't some strange otherbeing, and the alphabro podcasts sound silly once you realize that women are people.
@@aarons3014 "Then girls aren't some strange otherbeing, and the alphabro podcasts sound silly once you realize that women are people"
Meanwhile, the sexual disparity is *still* what it is.
Guess those "alphabros" are more *right* than people want to admit.
Crazy we're still being Intellectually dishonest about this.
@@aarons3014the opposite should be the goal imo, make them comfortable being around girls with a semi-sexual undertone, make them dance with their female cousins at parties, etc… if they they can practice in a stress free environment they will be more comfortable around girls when they get older.
- Don’t give your kinds self esteem
- Don’t make the responsible for other people’s feelings
And they will be immune to incel subculture
Asmon wakes up, starts thinking about the romance missing in his life. He wonders will he ever find love? An early 2000's Smashmouth banger starts playing in the background:
🎵I thought love was only true in fairy tales
Meant for someone else but not for me
Love was out to get me
That's the way it seemed
Disappointment haunted all of my dreams🎵
Asmon sees WoW login screen:
🎶Then I saw her face.... now I'm a believer!
Not a trace of doubt in my mind
I'm in loooooooove
I'm a believer, I couldn't leave her if I tried 🎶
_"Just don't date a woman that has OnlyFans."_
Okay, that removes about 30% of women right off the bat. Any other exclusions?
Only 1.5% of adults in America have an onlyfans account. Which is about 5 million people. They are a loud minority. Most people aren’t going to risk their careers or reputation. You have likely been consuming too much red pill content.
high body count, that immediately removes about 90% of women from the dating pool
5 f*cking MILLION?! HOLY SH*T!!@@yamiscape
@@yamiscape look! In the sky! it's the joke!
@@nakyearns he wasn’t joking he’s being serious
the word "incel" has been memed to hell and back and lost all of its meaning being used in cases where it's not relevant
True, didn’t the first guy say he got laid? I thought “in-cel” meant “involuntarily celibate “, which means virgin, no?
@@DagnirRen Fairly sure people just use it as a buzzword, even if in reality they have less game than the guy they're calling an incel.
@@DagnirRensame…so hes not an incel.. hes just single now lol
Watching this Asmongold interview from 2014 was wild, what a throwback.
No one goes outside without something specific they're set on doing anymore. The only places I can even think of where people are open to conversation are hobby spaces and organized meets, the latter of which almost exclusively being used for dating and whatnot.
Seriously, if you're in a position where you don't need to, why would you ever go outside except to work or spend time with people you already know?
I love that the people calling incels a terror group probably wouldn't even categorize Hamas that way.
I don't get why any guy has to get rid of their figures to be attractive to a partner. Many women also collect figures and things and can have that in common. It's just dumb to demand a guy get rid of that stuff like that will make a major difference in getting a gf.
It aint you or the fumo's
It's me and the fumo's
GTFO
Don't you think a women will be weirded out by a guy who collects little girls?...
@@felixsanchez7090a woman into the same shit won't be. couple girls I know collect loli figures like crazy.
@@felixsanchez7090 One of the top politicians or businessmen has a statue of a decapitated boy in his house and realistic paintings of children being tortured, but no one cares about it.
@@felixsanchez7090Some might, and those women aren't for them.
Can't believe asmond agreed to doing a part two interview
Everybody points at the violent and hateful incels and says "its obvious why" but that doesnt answer anything for the nonviolent and nonhateful. Then if the guy is a good guy they will either say you are not actually a nice guy (most common) or say you are too nice
Violence, dick pics and etc. are not the true reasons why someone can't find a partner there are a lot of cases witch prove those narrative wrong: Bonny and Clide, Ivan Robert Marko Milat (Australian serial killer by the way) and many other psychopaths who didn't have any problem starting a relationship. So the notion that social world is good and healfy is very misleading...
Dr. K did this for a while where he was looking for "the legendary incel" and had a bunch of guys come on the show to talk to him. He was looking for the terrible incels the media tells us about. Instead he just found shy and unattractive men who just could not get a girlfriend... There wasn't anything wrong with them. They were just introverted, shy, and yes - unattractive.
@@someguycalledcerberus9805unfortunately looks matter a lot in terms of physical attraction and some people don’t make the cut. Good looks or more specifically, general satisfaction with your partner’s looks is also a strong predictor of long term relationship success, and not just short term.
@@someguycalledcerberus9805I want society and everyone to acknowledge about heightism and lookism, and stop ignoring these issues. I don't want to harm anyone, but it's so hard to get people acknowledge that there are a lot of discriminations against short people/ugly people.
Just because you're a nice guy doesn't mean you're a good guy nice guys usually are nice for something
I was 23 when I realized that the reason I stressed so much about getting into a relationship and obsessing over it, was because that was what I thought was expected of me(not saying thats not true) and I thought it was something that I *had* to do, what I *should* do. I also realized that, as long as I cant let go of it, it will certainly not happen.
Everyone drives and everyone is saddled with debts because of it. Relationships seem like too much work and stress
Honestly there's so many people who are closeted misanthropes. If the only thing a woman likes about me is that I don't give a fuck whether or not she wants me, that tends to leave an impression which she has to find out how to fix. Assuming I don't decide it's not worth my time.
@@ShadowPhoenixMaximus There's literally never been a time where that hasn't been the case. In most cases women are saddled with more debt than men. Established relationship do take work, that's part of the deal. Why should a woman (or man) accept a partner that won't work for it?
People got to get over the fact that approaching someone you are interested in is a gamble. Gambling means losing in the end. Approaching people will eventually result in friendship, love,... It's always a win in the end. Some people will turn you down, others will accept you. That's just the way it is and it's the same way for most people although some people will get accepted more. But believe me if you want, you should only be interested in the people willing to accept you.
Yep, there are countless men and women together that would make you baffled how they got together. It's all chance with just a little pinch of intention. Also, not being a cruel or bitter person drastically helps.
"willing to accept you" - precisely! Some people believe they "deserve" stuff, while they don't. Obsessing over someone who doesn't want you is a sign of a sick mind. But everyone can change!
I had people approach me and it freaks me out it's like seeing an NPC with a mind of its own
i'd hardly call 80/20, or 90/10 a "gamble" at this point.
It's very clear what is going on has _nothing_ to do with socio-culture, and has *everything* to do with *biology* and idk why people keep _lying_ to cope.
This problem isn't going to go away until people start having the hard conversation, it'll just get _worse_ 🤦
Fear of failure is 90% of the issue. People use other excuses to deny the core problem.
Alot of dudes are scared too of women and not because they are afraid to talk but that some women are very vindictive. The scariest encounter I had was when i got sexually involved with one of my co-workers. Long story short I had no idea she was Bi-sexual and that she was dating a woman. The entire fling was just based on her wanting to get back at her girlfriend for percieved cheating (lol). So when her girlfriend found out and threatened to end their relationship she was damn near about to say i forced her into the fling we had with blackmail.
The only reason why I didn't have my reputation destroyed was because I told her that if you try to press this I will show the cops our DM's, the nudes (to prove context to our sexual relations) she sent, our conversations on multiple social media and sue you for slander. After that she quit the job and left me the f alone.
They screenshot everything these days.. Keep tabs.. really psycho behavior..
Only happens to guys who aren't supermodels. imo.
Kind of hard to talk to women that think you are so unattractive that they don't put any effort into the conversation and you are just talking to a metaphorical wall. It's not always a "skill" issue.
Or who aggressively yell and scream at you just being in proximity of them not interacting in anyway women are just as creepy as guys are its just celebrated as empowerment
Being ugly is subjective, if you feel you are then you are. Women feed on auras dude and there isn't skill required. Just be thoughtful, respectful and never romanticize the presence as it puts pressure.
@BlitzMedia1216 HAHAHAH dude there is barely any subjectivity in beauty, ESPECIALLY when it comes to women's preferences. Stop the giga cope 😆
@bdog2200 no there is. It's the same reason you can say oh she's hot then your friend is like nah. It really is subjective on your tastes preferences same with girls.
@BlitzMedia1216 oh I'm sorry, do you have telepathy now and can read people's minds? The friend may try to not look like a simp or like he has options. I hate people like you that argue anecdotes over objective fac
“Oh I know who Elliot Roger is! He referenced WoW!”
Asmongold never fails to reference World of Warcraft 😂
Lots of people have actually met their spouse on WoW so I wouldn't be so quick to bash it lol.
I hit on this girl jogging and she brushed me off. Then when she was coming around the second time, I said, "I knew it! I knew you'd change your mind" and that got a laugh. But if I'd failed to get a laugh, it would have looked creepy to criminal
How on earth would it have looked creepy or criminal to make a joke about your own rejection?
@@canihave1dab724 People are too sensitive these days, even talking now can be misconstrued as creepy depending on how you look. That's how guys like in this video get made, it's their own fault, but also having to deal with all these requirements, expectations and uncertainty of saying the "wrong thing" can make anyone apprehensive about approaching people to socialize, esp when the consequences now could be life ruining. For some it ends up being too difficult and they just give up. That's how these guys happen.
@@thekamotodragon I realize all that, I’m saying at the end of the day, it’s not actually creepy to approach any person like was described in the original comment.
@@thekamotodragon I don't think it's being too sensitive, you have to look at it from a woman's perspective. They hear all these horror stories, and if some random guy wanted to be a predator there's virtually nothing they could do because they would get overpowered. Any woman with common sense needs to be on high alert at almost all times especially with someone they don't know. That's why it's generally a lot easier to not seem like a creep in a very public place or somewhere where the woman can easily leave if she doesn't feel comfortable.
@@thekamotodragonSo we're just going to ignore the biology and evolution of the problem then?
Ok I guess, let's just exacerbate the problem 🤦
Usually if you get called an Incel you've said some of the realest shit. However this is depressing. The word incel is thrown around, but theyre out there.
Good for the dude that he tries to get away from the incel community. I hope is doing well and find the woman that loves him and that he loves. Its never to late to make a 180 and do the right thing.
Ryan here. Thanks bro, I really appreciate it and wish you all the best as well :)
what abut... no
@@jackblades90 In what regard? The finding love? The getting away from the vad influence? The doing well?
@@bottlecaps9793 Ur welcome buddy. Keep ur height straight and be a good dude, live sometimes takes its time but good times will always come eventually. At least thats the impression i got after 28 trips around our sun.
You can turn it around without having to find love or find a partner. Having a loved one is not the end all be all signifier of doing well. That kind of mentality is what breeds more incels. You can do a 180/lead a good life and still not have a girlfriend
Funny how assume that guys on forums talking about female psychology is why they are incels as opposed to loneliness getting them interested in finding out why they are single, ever thought of that? Its like when short guys get angry about dating being difficult and people just claiming he is a jerk instead of his difficult position making him angry.
One isse in dating today is that guys are expected to pay for dates, but not get anything guaranteed in return, to me that is like Gacha where each date is like a pull and hoping this one is the winning pull, win or go home poorer.
One of the common man's biggest failings in understanding the incel phenomenon is persistently getting the chicken and the egg the wrong way round.
I don’t know why kids this days so desperately want to fit in and be cool and want attention of people that don’t care about them. I was bullied every day at school - I was locked in wardrobes almost every day. I never had girlfriends or popular friends. But I just didn’t give a damn. I grown up finish school, got a job, got my first girlfriend at 24 and now I have 2 kids and I am happy. Don’t be someone you are not, just live your best life with what you have.
Well said. It all lies in deep rooted insecurity. You were probably bullied because you were different from them. But rather than hating the world, you kept being yourself. Kids tend to hate those that are true to themselves, causing them to bully over it.
These incels do the opposite what you did, they start hating everyone and just spiral downwards into a deep dark hole they can't get themselves out of.
That’s what happens when parents neglect and don’t teach positive ways to handle big emotions.
I mean, that's always been the case with humanity since the dawn of time, but I get what you mean. Always be your own individual even when society wants you to be a mold.
The difference between harassment and charming is how attractive you are 98 percent of the time
No. No it really isn't that hard to distinct harassing and charming behaviour. Seriously.
Commenting such stuff is a big red flag dude
Damn I just caught an incel in the comment section. Cant lie I was looking for one in here lol!
It's more about behaviour. However, even if you are very charming if you are physically unattractive, you are still going to get rejected.
Also, behaviour and personality isn't all that more in your control than your looks.
It is if you challenge your ego. Nobody really knows what the ego is. But everyone assumes you have one.@@someguycalledcerberus9805
Honestly I find that I’m single because I can’t keep an interest in people anymore
It just feels pointless
[Broke] I can’t keep an interest in people anymore
[Woke] People are boring
"Incels are dangerous REEEE" yet they always bring up the same people from 10 years ago (Elliot Rodger was 2014).
I know right. alot of non binary types were recent school shooters but no one is pushing the "non-binarys are dangerous" rhetoric. Hmmm
They are...didnt we watch the same vid. They are spreading misogyny in those echo chambers that eventually grow into irl hate. Its not just murder, theres more to misogyny than just that and its all scary and a problem. Hope this helps
@@hysteria781 What do you mean by “Irl hate”? Is it physical or a verbal confrontation? And how do you know that such instances can be properly attributed to “Incels”? Also depend on your definition of misogyny. A lot of women online have skewed what misogyny is.
@@caesaremrichfam5057 the entire point of the message was to say, incels are dangerous because these ideologies are more normalized in real life. Just bc something happened 10 years ago. It doesnt mean its less relevant. Men still kill women. Femicide still exists. In my country 70 women were killed last year, just for being women. Hope this helps!
@@hysteria781 Calling everyone who's an incel dangerous because of an internet forum is like calling all women S**ts because of how many are on only fans.
Holy fuck, UA-cam. Really, an AD every 1.5 minutes?
2024 and there are still people on the internet who don't use adblockers.
It's funny how people have no problem saying communities like this influence their followers and create negative traits, but say the same thing about hip-hop/gangster rap and you're just "ignorant" at best.
Minute 8 Asmond said it best "wait until your 40". I 100% agree, women have it easier when younger and men when older. The issue is men when younger have to deal with it until they are mature and women when they get older are still entitled. I'm no incel, been with my now wife since 19, married at 25 and now 35. That being said I have noticed this issue in single male and female friends. Male friends are angry they can't get more than a single date and female friends go on so many dates and after 1-2 move on to the next as they didn't "connect". Now these female friends are turning 32 and 34 they are now complaining they are still single.
Too many options is the problem?
@justin-md4xm I don't think options is the problem. I think the issue is when a women dates a man and he hits say out of 15/20 categories and they are 1,2,4,5,6,8,9,10,11,13,14,15,16,18, and 20. They break up for whatever reason, the next guy may have 16/20 categories but say he's missing #2 but has 3 and 7. What happens if all humans notice negatives before positives so she notices the lack of #2 amd not thr addition of 3 and 7. That relationship ends and the next has 18/20 but again she notices the missing category. I'll try to make an example. Her 1st boyfriend was well off and they went out and spent money on the weekends. The trade off was he worked 60 hours a week and she broke up because she didn't feel she was a priority. The next man has a 40hr a week job. He spends weekdays with her too and they have more time buy he can't afford the same things. The 1st lacked something she wanted so she left, the 2nd filled that void but lacked some of the qualities of the 1st. Now the issue can become a women dates 10 men between 18-25. Now at 25 she "knows what she wants" but in reality what happens is she's not comparing her current boyfriend to her last, she's comparing every negative quality and tying it to a negative experience. Maybe the current boyfriend is the 3rd best in bed. Well he's not as good as 1 or 2. Maybe he's 4th richest so in her head "John would of bought me X". It doesn't have to be superficial either, maybe he's 2nd in thoughtfulness. Maybe the 3rd boyfriend was just super nice and did amazing things. You aren't being compared to just 1 guy you are being compared to all guys. This is the only reason "body count" matters. Not how many ppl you fucked but how many long term relationships your been in.
@EarlsPearls oh ya I know. You're preachin to the choir. Men will compromise and women might not, they hold all the cards.
@@justin-md4xm no women can see 10,000 men even attractive can and will find flaws with all of them except 2 if lucky
@@EarlsPearls great explanation. once i met a woman who had literally 100s of dates off dating apps and complained she never found the one. as a guy i couldn't imagine getting such a huge number of dates and thinking none of them were good enough for a long term relationship.
The problem with zacks viewpoint is that he was raised in a different time with different social norms and when society changed guy was already a multimillionaire so he is so out of touch with the normal day person that even reading dozens of stories from guys telling him what was going on he lacks all empathy towards those guys by saying well when i was a kid or as a internet famous multimillionaire my current experience is... Also the lack of any sympathy for these lost boys in the comments tells you how bad this problem is going to become for these people. Currently Japan is the only place attempting to do something other than blame these kids that were never raised to be functioning adults or allowed any kind social setting to learn how to have the tools to deal with IRL social interactions.
"Women are to blame for men being pedophiles" - Whoever posted that, short of them having been abused by *a* woman as a child and then that experience creating said paraphilia within them, women are not responsible for making you wanna rape kids dude. Ffs.
That one was crazy af.
you guys do know that young people will just say crazy stuff online just to see people’s reactions, right? trolling can get pretty dark sometimes, but when i run into kids acting like edge lords, my first instinct is think they’re trying to mess with me cuz i’m “old” and kids think stupid crap is funny. we’re talking about an age group that thinks leaving a flaming bag of dog poo on a doorstep, ringing the door bell, and then running away is the height of hilarity. i dunno, maybe it’s just me, but i wouldn’t take a lot of the stuff young people say online to sound edgy or deep too seriously.
No I think what he said was understandable women like to complain And be mean young girls are full of life
@@leecameron9226 WTF?!
That's just typical internet stuff. People comment wild stuff just to get a reaction.
Women say worse shit about men but not allowed to mention that
Of course it only flows in one direction
If teenage boys feel fulfilled without seeking out a girlfriend, fckn good for them man. We need more of that
If you can learn to be self-reliant, but it's one of the toughest paths because you need to separate yourself from most people to develop that mindset which isn't easy.
1980-2010 middle school was for learning how to talk to/approach people. high school was to refine your social skills and cold openings. once you were in college or starting a job you had your social skills and cold open skills down pat for the most part and could talk to people without seeming that awkward.
In modern times school is not even the same place it was in the way back due to social media and cell phone proliferation. you are not competing with kids in your school due to social media and messaging services your social circle is no longer a closed loop of your school and maybe 1 other school, it is every person your age on your chosen apps.
when we made mistakes only our circle knew about it. now it is immortalized on social media platforms and you are forever known online as "that" person.
we made mistakes learned from them and became better people. now you make mistakes and you go viral and if you try to learn and grow and move on from it well too bad everyone has seen the video.
such a sad state to be growing up in.
Seems like a psyop
To all the stupid kids saying "oh why is he smiling talking about r*pe or other disgusting stuff, he is a total psycho!":
smiling is a coping mechanism for a lot of people, say you have never read a book or dealt with trauma without saying you have no actual life experiences, smfh
Smiling is a coping mechanism. And I'm tired of pretending it's not.
Smiling is a coping mechanism. But at some point you need some level of self-control. If you can't bring yourself to not smile at a woman while talking about rape (why you would EVEN talk about disgusting stuff to a woman?) yeah... you might be in trouble. Just don't smile in conversations about rape, perhaps?
The fact people like doing so much that amounts to so little in the short term makes these people look saner not less so.@@Jagonath
Asmon focuses on the extreme incels but in reality that’s a minority of guys who can’t get laid a lot of us live normal lives but just don’t know how to get into a relationship with women or we don’t try hard enough because of other distractions like porn and video games or really just the internet in general
One sentence " we live in a society "
When did "incel" become a chosen identity? Being involuntarily celibate isn't something one just decides to be one day, it's something out of the individual's control, hence the word "involuntarily"
They adopt it because the human brain likes certainties, so when guys like these have a streak of bad experiences, they turn it into an identity because it's easier than dealing with the having their hopes get up and dashed again. And I think there's also an aspect of community to it.
It isn't really a chosen identity though, but they lean into it more and more.
cause incels wanted to turn it into a social group to try and validate themselves
Because if they embrace their derogatory identity, it becomes something they can own, and less painful or demeaning that way. It's like the evolution of the N word from being used by white southern farmers to being incorporated in rap songs.
Involuntarily celibate does not exist.
Porn nowadays is both a good and bad thing for men. For the men that are destined to be forever alone, it'll likely help them from lashing out at others or going down a bad spiral. But bad, because sexual gratification of that level that happens too often can severely mess up your mind overtime and even your body as a result.
I think the most useful skill for figuring out why stuff doesn't work socially is empathy, If you can't put yourself in someone else shoes to have some level of understanding why other people reacted differently how you expected, whatever you do isn't going to help much. Once you get some basic skill in this, the rest is just a road to self-improvement however you want this (and a bit of discipline helps to get results faster).
in my case, I just love comedy so I just went to local comedy shows multiple times a week for years. To avoid back problems, I have to train at least a little so I'm always in some kind of good shape but I mean all in all, you have to work for it:
In RPGs, you do need to train skills to get better at something. It's not easy but you need to do stuff to get your sweet XPs lol.
I mean I'd have been a perfect incel case when I was a teenager as I was in a very bad place: I was such an ugly duckling (bad case of acnea + incredibly thin for my height -> newborn deer style) and kept getting friendzoned mainly because of my looks, total lack of fashion sense and being incredibly geeky so it was kinda hard to relate to other people in general in the 90s (not just girls). It was a harsh time but I kept warrioring through. I'm 41 now and really happy with how my life turned up (anything else I'd say would just sound like dumb bragging...) but when I look back, the journey was so rough and tough in my teenage years until I got out of that bad place in my early 20s and started getting momentum at doing things right.
Even if you end up blooming even later than I did, there's never a bad time to work on yourself; whatever you do, it's an investment for your future :)
Last year at work a male coworker showed interest in a female coworker. He asked her out multiple times. She would have reasons for why she couldn't do that activity with him. The guy kept trying by offering to do things that she said that she was interested in. She never once said that she wasn't interested in him. The guy was fired for sexual harassment.
Guy clearly couldn’t read the room
@@banhammer3904 No he kept trying to find things that she wanted to do. He spent more and more money on tickets to things that she said she wanted to go to. I was at a sexual harassment seminar when I found out that he was fired. When I defended the guy. The person running the seminar said the person that was harassed didn't have to tell him that she wasn't interested. His asking her out more than once was grounds for harassment.
he was basically friend-zoned because she didn't like him, women try to be agreeable so she didn't outright reject him. to solve the issue she had him fired. it's pretty common.
and yeah it is true he didn't 'read the room', but for guys going through the above process with friendzoning they take the excuses at face value. they don't realize they were actually rejected. they really think the girl is busy or just expects more money or better quality dates than what's being offered.
As he should
So he made a mistake by asking her out more than once because he liked her a lot so his whole life should be destroyed by being fired?
We should be concerned about people who have no ability to be part of society for mild mistakes?
Furthermore people can change their mind about accepting an advance?
One thing that doesn't really come up about why men are having so much trouble getting a girl is that way less people are looking to get married. Back in the day, you were expected to get married and start a family, often in your early 20s. Recently, I saw a statistic on Pew Reasearch that said only 20% of parents say it's important for their kids to get married and a similar nuber said the same about having their own children when they grow up. Meanwhile, 70% say it's important for their kids to get a career they enjoy and 50% say the same for getting a college degree. There was another study that said 25% of 40 year-olds in the US have never been married. People are concerned with themselves, their careers, and their hobbies, but not with raising a family.
Lots of people start a family without getting married though.
In my country, if you live together with your romantic partner you are called a "co-inhabiter" directly translated, and after living together for a year you are in most ways treated by the law as if you were married. It is not uncommon for co-inhabitors to live their whole life, raise kids etc without being married.
It is strange to me that there is no English word for this (as far as I know), it is either boyfriend/girlfriend or husband/wife. Or "girlfriend who I live with".
When answering a question about relationship status or filling out a government form here, "co-inhabitor" is a normal answer and is included on all such forms
The women that have time to be online all day and all night are the ones talking online and convincing everyone that things like cold approaching is bad. don’t get me wrong we get nervous too just like you guys get nervous, regardless of if we want to say yes or no… but I don’t know many girls that hate it in real life. I mostly see it online. they’ve made it so that everyone is too afraid to talk to the other one and it’s really sad
The Main Reason for all this is that most Man and Woman think they are a 10 while being a 6.
So they don't settle down for a 6since they believe they deserve a 10.
It's a slippery slope in regards to incels. It starts off as being upset you can't get a girlfriend and then escalates more and more if you don't get any help for the people who should help you (parents, teachers, friends, etc.).
I used to be somewhat like them but I still managed to get laid. It's only once my teeth started breaking and going bad that I gave up on dating. Being old and poor sucks, don't do it fellas.
Sounds like self pity to the extreme. It's easy to be happy without a relationship. And if you're happy it makes it easier to find relationships naturally if you so choose to.
Why is it up to them to help you? Why is the onus externalized instead of placed firmly where it belongs: we each individually, incel or not, have a responsibility to ourselves and to society to help ourselves. Seek counseling, work on your flaws, learn to contribute to a meaningful society. Blaming parents and teachers and clergy and whomever for not helping adult men is silly, because these adults are are self-secluded and nonparticipants of the real world. It's none of our jobs to break into dark basements and bust down funko-pop box walls to peel back curtains and turn on lights.
@LakeVermilionDreams this is a pretty dumb take cuz people normally start falling into it as teens and parents play a major major role in shaping people if they can't or won't help their child through tough thoughts and situations they'll go to extremes. Some incels also have mental health issues so them helping themselves becomes 10x Harder. How can you help yourself if you can't even recognize that what you're doing is an issue.
@@razerscale3590 some people start way behind the starting line. Even for teenagers, parents don't lift their legs and place their feet one in front of the other for them. We all need to run for ourselves. We're not children forever. These people interviewed (not the young girl obviously) are all adults, and only one of them is actively choosing to leave the toxic behind.
Here's the thing, I've been dealt a really unlucky hand health wise. As a result, I'm a NEET and technically an "incel" (or "femcel," whatever) and things suck a lot, but I can't imagine being in those kinds of spaces.
I was in childfree spaces temporarily, for like 5 seconds, in my early 20s but the toxicity in those spaces - note: childfree spaces, majority women because men are more likely to ID as full on "anti-natalist", also not incel - were too toxic for me. I just wanted a space to go where I could share my thoughts on *choosing* to be childfree as a result of health stuff. Y'know, I was basically looking for support, because the people in my life didn't understand my perspective. I never wanted to shit on anyone though, but everyone in that space had an absolute hateboner for parents, I don't hate parents at all, that's not what I was there for.
So now, I just don't go deep into any online space, and sites like twitter allow me to cultivate my own to an extent. I don't see a reason to enter a space that will ultimately just make you feel worse. The internet is supposed to be an escape and a distraction, and a place where you get to be who you want to be, so if we're losers irl, why tf would we wanna mope about in loser spaces online when we could be doing literally anything else?
Asmond would make the best motivational speaker. The references and examples you give are great. "everything bad in my life is generally my fault"
nah, you are a victim of nature.
Pretty much true for alot of people, there are plenty exceptions though but we're not talking about that. What really helps though is not spiraling into major depression and believing you will be better and have already gotten better and that you just need to try and if you never succeed then at least you tried your best, thinking like that has gotten me so much further than I ever thought mentally possible.
It’s the best quote hoenstly.
Asmongold didnt become streamer timeline
''I shouldn't have to hear about what a 12years old think about capitalism''
Oh boy, Hassan would be back to flipping burgers real quick if that was a thing.
You continue to surprise me with your takes on some of these issues Asmon. I like that you joke like "yeah I thought about getting a girlfriend, but then I remembered I needed to farm this mount" lmao! In truth the amount of hate being spewed back and forth between the sexes all day everyday is exhausting and really toxic for all of us. I hope at some point a massive amount of people can realize that nothing good will come from it. There has to be a way we can all be willing to listen as well as be heard. So many of the problems we have come from a lack of respect for each other, which is something we can all work on...being better at listening and respectfully speaking about our own wishes and concerns. There's a quote that I really like: "If you want others to like you, if you want to develop real friendships, if you want to help others at the same time as you help yourself, keep this principle in mind: Become genuinely interested in other people.”
That quote is from "How to win friends and influence people." I'm pretty sure. The title of the book makes it sound manipulative, but in truth that is what it's about. Learning how to show genuine interest in people. Its a great read for people who might relate to incels, or people who want to get along with more people more often. Focuses on things like asking questions, avoiding arguing or criticizing, remembering names and birthdays, and even things like holding your head up high. It takes a logical approach to things like keeping a positive attitude and giving people genuine compliments.
This is what happens when we let people remove our morals and principles (and untimatly religion to enforce those). Most people were good people only because they had to be. Human nature is to only do things to benefit yourself. It's a really sad part of our nature and one that i highly doubt will get better any time soon. Like religion or not, it was something that reinforced morals in all of us. Sure, it has issues when bad people use it, but the good far outways the bad.
"sexually“, not just platonically
Don't worry AI gfs will fix alot of problems
The problem with advice like this isn't that it's wrong. It's 100% true, but it's so disconnected from the people it's meant to help that it ultimately has no effect. When your goal is to deradicalize someone, you can't take them from a 5 directly to 1. You need to bring them from a 5 to a 4, then to 3, then 2, and they can probably do the rest. It's hard to see just how lost someone is when you're sitting at the top of an ivory tower. The disconnect might be too great for your advice to even make a dent.
Ahh yes an Incel... A person with unknown connections with the hacker known as 4chan
For the cold approaching women topic, people seem to forget that yes if you forcefully start a conversation out of the blue with a girl of course shes going to be uncomfortable, but there is a sort of visual contact that needs to happen first. In my experience, if you find yourself making eye contact randomly like 3-4 times with a girls thats two tables over at a bar, go for it, youll find that shes going to be way more open to talk to you. DO NOT STARE AT THEM, behave normally and if while doing so you make eye contact multiple times, it means both of you caught the eye of the other. Once that happened and you think you have the courage to go talk to them, CHOOSE THE RIGHT MOMENT. Dont go and interrupt her while shes busy talking to her friends or whatever shes doing, wait for a dead moment like her friends went to the bathroom or she got up to order something at the bar. Think about how she might feel if you approach her in that moment. the best way I could describe it is: approach her while shes alone but only temporarily or shes alone but not in a vulnerable position like a public space or her friends are nearby. Just remember that she doesnt know you or your intentions and might be scared if you approach her in a context where shes feels unsafe.
Probably the best way to explain the topic is as a guy who has done some research and has a little bit of experience from real life (mostly by observing other males who try to date). Chads (attractive males): If you don't try to commit a r*pe or something, you should be ok. Just do the cold approach. This will save you a lot of time. Start a conversation with 10 girls you found attractive; at least one of them would be definitely willing to date with you.
normies (average guys). It is kind of hard to date for normies but you should forget about the cold approach. Just befriend a girl, compliment her with time, increase the dose of your compliments, and secretly manipulate her into staying away from other guys if you want to. At some point, she will see you as her most trusted boyfriend, and when you confess your feelings, she will either give a neutral and delaying response or accept you as your GF.
sub5 (ugle men like me). AI chatbots I can recommend Sillytavern. You kind of need to do a little bit of coding, but it is good. If you don't want to spend your time coding, character AI is also fine.
Yes it is very much about where and how you approach the woman. Also be gracious if she turns you down.
@@slightlyhoopla4215it’s called maturity…it used to be a natural part of getting older for most people. Nowadays we have way too many man-child’s in their 30s.
its social ques, most people pick up on these skills as they age or get taught to them from parents. Now if you are on the spectrum like a lot of these dudes in the video than this becomes almost impossible. I witnessed it myself, they just dont get it they dont pick up on the body language and its very hard to watch. Maybe some autistic ladies can chime in so we can understand why this is mostly a male problem.
@@slightlyhoopla4215 you are right since I’ve been married almost 20 years I don’t date much
Anytime he reads a comment from one of the blackpill types, he goes "oh i don't know about that it's complicated" without ever taking the time to really break it down. On THREE separate occasions in this video he claimed that spending 5-10 minutes with any one of these people would reveal why they don't have girlfriends. It's very dishonest or downright cowardly to not engage with the actual plenty of critiques people have with modern women/dating.
Asmongold needs to understand it goes both ways. Women arent victims. Women arent angels. When are you gonna start talking about the negatives of women? Why is every big male streamer outside of a select few so willing to bash men. He usually advocates for both sides on alot of issues. When it comes to this its strictly hammering men. Id like to see him talk about women. I think alot of dudes use their platform to shit on other men to prop themselves up in front of women. Its quite annoying we know how he feels on thie. Give us a different angle on the situation
His entire point is “suck it up and be a man”. I get the sentiment but I also see why this isn’t a fair assessment and I agree with you somewhat at least but he’s also not a girl so he just isn’t gonna know what the other side feels like
Gee, as an older man (54) I just can't even imagine how this could possibly happen? /sigh Current Western Culture mixed with the internet, the idea that anything that are normal masculine traits are suppressed by society writ large.
I saw the greatest thing I had seen in quite awhile driving down my street. I passed a house and there were about 8-10 bikes in the driveway and about the same amount of boys around 12-14 running around like little wild animals playing some kind of game, looked like Tag but more aggressive, they were chasing each other, tackling each other and just having fun~
It gave me such a calm satisfied but excited feeling at the same time... Young boys congregating at a friends house just being boys~
It was awesome to see.
Certainly better than in China where there aren't even enough women to go around. Then you start hearing stories about top CCP officials having whole harems of courtesans.. its little wonder that anything sexual is heavily censored in China - it stops men from realising the situation they're in
Nuclear Family is key, and a good father figure is key to confidence.
So your saying my parents being meth addicts didnt help? what does one do in a situation that they have no control over? Im lucky because i had friends that understood and let me escape but most people will not be that lucky.
No.
@@saltycarl6581 If you managed to overcome that and form meaningful bonds with other people, you should feel proud of yourself because that kind of upbringing is enough to destroy people and turn them into statistics.
Being called an incel is like being called a mid century german politics enthusiast online. You get so desensitized to the name, but then you meet an actual one and its just jarring.
Bro they literally tied Hitler to all "Incels" the entire video is a propaganda peice.
Incel means involuntary celibate. They don't necessarily are freaking misogynist.
You should try considering the difference.
@@thetrolluminati9714 Don't bother they're watching a film that shows the people filming GOING INTO a call with people who have Hitler Profile pics in Discord pretending that's what "Incel" is about. It's a propaganda video and these people think it's reality. They even try to tie in Shootings into Incels. LOL
guys this, girls that, incel this, femcel that... it's all so tiring. why aren't people normal why is everybody so horrible nowadays
always has been
"flirting" with or asking women out at the gym is for the most part a big no no.
yeah, if you're not hot. If you're hot you can do what you want.
its hilarious coming from asmongold who's single
IKR
But hes a based sigma volcel chad theres a total difference
He rich af, he can buy 10 if he wants to
Your fixation on that made you miss the point.
@@Toactwithoutthinkinghe is definitely not based 😂
The interesting thing to me is that how some developed countries don't have the same problem with internet we have here in the US. Our individualistic values and general isolation in the single family home really embraces online isolation.
What are these countries that don't have similar problems? They might call them different things but they are normally there. For example, Japan has had hikikomoris since I was a kid and I'm middle aged now.
Japan and South Korea would like a word.
@@BrandonHeat243 they have isolating cultural values as well. In their case it's more shame than individualism. I'm looking at countries like Netherlands, which have embraced a "third place" in their cities as a place that's safe and free to socialize in. Looking into it, there has been a shift over the last few years there where these third places are also starting to disappear and their lonlieness rates are rising but still are not nearly as bad as US.
They absolutely do. You just don't pay attention
@@DrugDealer541The netherlands and western Europe as a whole has the same exact problem. Sexlessnes among young men has significantly increased in the entire west. Dating succesfully is easier in lets say eastern Europe where people are more traditional in general.
The way social media is warping young people’s minds is ridiculous. I’m hope I have enough knowledge to keep my kids safe.
Asmond the millionaire understands the common man and these incels are the outliers
Asmon you realise you have the same hair right ? Putting your hair up doesn’t magically change that 😂
Asmon telling us to workout is amazing I will continue to do so everyday but hearing it from asmon just makes me chuckle “workout!”
He is right, but come on man 😂
@@DadsCigaretteRun frrrr😂😂
But does he work out?
Cold approaching is completely fine and normal. However you must do it in safe environments and approach from an angle where you’re not surprising her.
Its fine and normal, if youre conventionally attractive.
@@bro918I'm average looking and cold approach women all the time. As long as you're well groomed your looks really aren't that important.
I think PART of the issue is schooling these days as well, before at 18 joe/jane doe could start life and focus on trying to start families and looking for a partner, be fine financially and have space to grow as a human. Now after high school we still have 5 - 10 years before we reach that aspect of our lives if we even get there, I know so many ppl who pretty much wasted early 20s going to school for something that isn't even relevant anymore and struggling to make ends meet let alone have time to go out and meet someone, if it wasn't for social media we'd never talk anymore! I think ppl are putting themselves in the old thinking of timelines (have a kid and house by 25-30) when that's just not possible anymore! Stop comparing yourself to others you see online and live your life!
just live your life bro. nah, men have to learn these things. you can sit back
They use to have 4h, home economics, and a few other programs to prepare some what and that was deemed bad
some incels are weird, they're good looking but call themselves incels because they don't socialise at all
Maybe they should go to a Bar. Alcohol helps me with the socializing part. It's hell without it
@@StormcloakGuardyep
Alcohol is the magic drug that forces that confidence out of you that doesn’t want to come out
Or maybe they can't? or get no opportunity to? Nowadays how people work like 80-100h a week sometimes, I can very well understand that there's no desire to after those hours, to still go out and try and meet people and stuff.
@@StormcloakGuard yep
@@StormcloakGuard yep
That wow music in the background is so good!
Funny seeing an incel react to other incels.
embrace wizardry and cast off your petty carnal and evolutionary desires
amazing video! thank you asmon
Cold approaching is like petting a stray dog on the street sometimes they bark or sometimes they shy away but every once and a while you meet one and have a friend for life.
Thanks I have rabies now
Exactly accurate. I wouldn't approach a random dog on the street either for damn near the same reasons. Main difference is the dog isn't going bitch and complain about not being approached because of its own actions. Or I can just not pet the dog and go about living my life without dealing with the astronomical life altering problems for the CHANCE at happiness with the dog.
sometimes if you are ugly u get sexual harassment charges which ruins your career and future prospects. :)
"friend for life"
_doubt_
What are the downsides to cold approaching? Nothing you can't just move on from as long as you weren't being forceful