The Most Disturbing Stalker on Twitch | Asmongold Reacts to KiraTV
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- Asmongold Reacts to the most disturbing stalkers on Twitch (Amouranth on the thumbnail)
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There was a stalking case involving a Brazilian TV show star called Ana Hickmann, her stalker and what he tried to do to her was one of the most well known stalking incidents in Brazil.
The dude broke into the apartment she was at, took Ana, her sister and her brother in law as hostages, shot Ana's sister and her brother in law jumped at the guy, took his gun and killed him. The state office tried to sue Ana's brother in law for "over-use of self-defense", and people got PISSED OFF about it. Dude was a hero, and the justice system took more than 3 years to dismiss the charges. Wild stalking cases like this happen all the time, glad that Kaitlyn was able to avoid it.
Sorry, but I have zero compassion for “Kaitlyn”. Her for-profit exploitation of weak, lonely, and troubled people makes her just slightly better than the crazy POS stalker that she had to deal with (or better, that the cops had to deal with).
It easily could be over-use of self-defense, because generally it's illegal to kill someone after taking his gun.
@@MeldinX2 100% if a gun is drawn on you its a clear and present danger. If you take the gun or have your own its the same thing. You cant know if he has another gun. What you do know is his attend to harm. And he forfeits his rights at that point.
@@razorzagaming I guess, since the guy shot his wife infront of him, he had a good reason to kill him. Unfortunately that was probably even used against him in the investigation.
@@Sercotani absolutely, nothing to say about that. This is especially crazy in a country like Brazil, where criminals equip themselves with Kevlar body vests, Ak47s, integrated radios, M16s with drum mags and are armed better than the regular armies of half of the world’s countries, yet politically charged prosecutors who live in gated communities patrolled by armed security would send normal people to prison for defending themselves...
My favorite part is when asmon says this happens to everybody, it just seems more common towards celebrities because they are in the public eye. It's so true, this literally happens to people of every class, race, gender, and sex. No one is safe from deranged people who think they are entitled to a piece of your life.
It doen't just seem more common with celebrities, it IS more common, especially with streamers.
@@heygek2769 It depends how you quantify common. If you do it as a ratio then yes, it's more common. If you look at the actual numbers though there is way more non-celebs being stalked and harassed than celebs. I think this is one of those topics where the actual numbers are more important due to the actual size and scope of the issue.
@@Tigerhearty did you not enjoy the video?
@@Tigerhearty You watch and comment on every video, apparently they provide some value to you
@@Tigerhearty Sounds like you should stop blaming your own problems on others.
Streamers are just entertainers, if they don't provide any value, then neither do musicians, writers, etc.
Happened to my wife while I was deployed...both guys that followed her were soldiers and because of where I work we had to get all their details to report it...we now carry, but those two were charged and lost their military career because of it.
Good
Wait your wife had dudes simping while you were serving? Yikes dude.
yea wtf how does he not realise??@@theexpert758
Idk if stalking and simping are interchangeable here
@@theexpert758do you ever read your comments before sending them?
When i was in my late 20's, I had an issue with a 17 year old stalking me. She would call my job all the time, never to talk to me but to get me fired. She forced open my mailbox in an apartment I rented on more then one occasion, and tried to murder my girlfriend at the time. The cops did literally nothing because my stalker was underage, rather, they were on my ass for minor exploitation. It took moving to a different city, deleting all my social media, changing my phone number and email, and working in a different field entirely to get away from her. Shit was scary.
Yeah that definitely sucks, I have not had that extreme case but the woman who used to live next door when we were kids suddenly started contacting me when we both were adults and moved and it kept getting more pushy and more frequent, gas lighting that her kids father is abusive so she could see me and at some point I just started blocking her number when she didnt understand when told I didnt want to talk to her anymore, I have probably blocked half a dozen of her numbers, blocked her in every social media, she started contacting me through her brothers social media so I blocked those. Once she showed up at my door and I just yelled get lost and slammed the door.
I think this is partially the reason why I dont feel comfortable to answer unknown numbers, I mean I do it most of the time but still.
And what could I have done, small woman harassing me but luckily is not physically assaulting me, no authorities would do anything. Luckily now it seems to have stopped, it lasted years but now I havent heard anything in couple of years.
6 months ago dude
@@danawhiteboy and?
Whatever you have to say to feel important
@@michaelsuder486??? Man’s just expressing his situation ya nerd
Stalker Victim - Help, my stalker threatened my life with a weapon. I have video, pictures and texts top prove it.
Police - There is nothing we can do at this time.
Swatter - This guy has a weapon and is threatening to do a mass shooting. I have no evidence of this.
Police - Breaks the door down before the swatter can hang up.
@@FinnLovesPizza This country is such a joke
Red flag laws in a nutshell
@@paxvesania2008 true.. things are simpler when laws are not overcomplicated.
Swatter - This guy has a weapon and is threatening to do a mass shooting. I have evidence of this.
Police - would it further the agendas of our superiors to wait until after they go off?
Politician - Hmm. Yeah. Seems like it.
Police - Cool! We're gonna wait until its too late this time.
Swatter - Dammit... Shouldn't have said I hade evidence...
Some time later
Politician - What had happened was *such* a *tragedy* ... Anyway, uhhh. If you vote for me I'll totally fix this. :)
@@JohnLee-or1sx Those fully semi automatic weapons of mass destruction that shoot 50 caliber explosive rounds called AR's, ,assault rifles...... totally impossible for it to stand for something else like a companies name or anything.
43:45 I did martial arts, my teacher was a local cop and the number 1 piece of advice he gave people is if you have the chance to run away, run away, everything else he teaches was for when you couldn't run away and how to put yourself in a position where you could run away.
almost always true, but sometimes, you just have to deal with a person.
@@masterofreality230 run over them?
@frigid His mentor was Joseph star
@@PlasmaBurns For throws yes you need to go bellow center mass and use your body as a pivot, but the part that was really "self defense" was a lot of scenarios and how to get out of them, most of them ending in arm locks or holds / shoke holds. We also did a lot of on the ground sparing tho very little hand to hand sparring.
@@PlasmaBurns ??? Three things of note, this was a *Martial art* class not a *Firearm* class, second this was in Canada, most Canadian don't carry firearms in their day to day, lastly the self defense curriculum was divided by belts, defense against white weapon & firearm (pistol) is something brown belt which in our school was 1 belt bellow black belt learned, I dropped out before getting there because I started going to college and didn't have the time for it anymore.
This just puts a good spotlight on the recourse of victims in general. Domestic Violence survivors have stories like these everyday, and it's appalling how little recourse there is for people being stalked. A story like that just happened in my state where the woman was going to police with evidence of her ex partner stalking and harassing her. Nothing was taken seriously until he killed someone.
This is awful. I had a couple of years where I dealt with a stalker that was following me while I was out running. He tried following me to my house several times: I sprinted to shake him, I called my boyfriend to pick me up in his car at the nearby grocery store, I even once had to call the cops to drive me home so that this guy couldn't follow me and find out where I lived. I reported him twice: one officer took it very seriously (it may have helped that my boyfriend was an additional witness for that one) but for the second incident, the officer laughed and said "so you have an admirer, huh?" This stuck with me for a long time, and I still have trouble running around my neighborhood or shopping at nearby stores without worrying I'll run into him again.
When it comes to streamers, its always important to think of the worst cases scenarios that can occur. Its not always sunshine and rainbows but its always important to prepare and take things in consideration when shit hits the fan.
Honestly... What does a streamer like Amouranth expect... I Don't condone stalking but she spends all day in nothing but a bikini on a livestream. Thats degenerate language and yes it might make her a lot of money but it will also breed bad behavior from her viewers.
Why only when it comes to streamers? Being prepared for the worst is generally a fair idea.
answer me this question. Does the Chilled Llama posses hats? Inquiring minds must know...
Yeah but we also shouldn’t give a fuck
Exactly they took the job knowing what can happen
This is why I totally get why people been going the Vtubing route more and more, including guys.
I just don't understand why this kind of stuff isn't taken more seriously by authorities.
yeah ngl I used be like “wtf is this” when I first came across vtubers, male or female, but as time went on I started thinking wait a minute they might be on to something
Thats actually so brilliant, even if a freak worships a vtuber what are they gonna do? Hope the cartoon is irl and at home making coffee? They don’t even know what they look like. At best they risk shattering their illusion for NOTHING
I even knew a girl that stalked a boy in her neighbourhood just because she got bored one day and thought it would be fun
Stalkers are unhinged people and there should ABSOLUTELY be more awareness about the mental health aspect that makes people act out like that. It’s frankly disgusting that neither the victim nor the stalker are treated adequately in any way
As a guy whose unfortunately dealt with this pretty recently, I can tell you having a female stalker is not fun or sexy.@@yangpaan453
If anything, there is too much attention paid to the mental health aspect and little to none as to its causes.
"his love is more powerful than the restraining order"
As a woman- I love Asmon's takes on stuff like this SO MUCH. THANK YOU ASMON
Lol its funny to read your comment and pretend that you don't understand his sarcasm, I hope nobody genuinely thinks that tho, Asmon is so dry when he says his out of pocket shit that I bet some people believe it
@@seanmarkovich7563 He clearly means that the guy is willing to break the terms of the restraining order due to his obsession and her comment reads as someone who understands that. So why are you acting as if you're some intellectual that 'got the deeper meaning'?
@@aaronhoyos1 wtf lol relax bro
Common Aaronhoyos1 W
7 months ago dude
You don't have to be a streamer or famous to have a stalker. Many unknown people suffer in silence because there's no law made for protection and of course police use victim blaming and do nothing until somebody dies or gets hurt. In most countries you are not allowed to protect yourself and most people can't afford to keep moving around and hide from their stalkers. It's a disgrace how little our lives amd trauma matter to those who could help or make a change
The difference is, by being a public sex icon by choice you are actually encouraging this behaviour. Plain and simple. She doesn't just sell nudes or sex vids. She streams and pretends to be engaged with her viewers. It's all self inflicted and anyone who thinks otherwise is being obtuse for social clout.
Depends where you live, in Poland I can own a black powder revolver without a permit, all weapons made before 1885 or their replicas do not require a permit. If you are not allowed that, you can buy a fancy looking yet properly made sword to hang on your wall. Big dog is always a good deterrent since good boys have way better senses then we do and can be trusted not to run away when shit hits the fan. Aditionally you can walk around with a big dog, they protec even outside!
You can understand how a famous person could easily have more and more commonly
no, you have the right to defend yourself regardless of what you're told by bureaucratic thugs who claim to run your life, just realize that you will also have to protect yourself from those thugs as well, they were never there to protect you in the first place
@@The.Nasty. what a society we live in.... you have to carry a weapon or take martial arts classes to feel safe walking outside of your house...
I think anyone that is caught stalking someone in any way should be required to undergo a psychological analysis by a professional psychologist.
bro waiting line of 2 years. Don't put more on top
They usually get shot or put in prison so no need.
@Sir Hamsterlot So are a long list of things that we provide facilities for after the fact of abuse.
Alcoholics anonymous
Narcotics anonymous
Various domestic violence counseling services
I could go on.
Why? How does that help? Stalking is illegal and needs to be addressed quickly but doing a psych evaluation is pointless in most situations.
Try rehabbing a person by force. Seems extremely unlikely that these folks can be helped by talking about their problems against their will. If you're threatening a person against all reason it's probably best to take them out of society until they've proven to be able to behave like a human being
This is such a great video. So many good takes.
yeah, but wtf.. Batman is not real... comon...
27:34 Yeah, that's great advice there. Keeping the situation on the down-low so they can't get off on the fact that they are actually making an impact on the person. It would be rewarding them for their behavior and they'll just keep doing more of it.
Thanks for sharing this bro. Some people are insane. I can only imagine what these people go through dealing with this kind of thing. Im hoping the best for all their safeties.
I think as soon as LE hears “someone on the Internet” they tune out and assume it’s nothing urgent to be concerned about. They’ve become desensitized to what they view as internet drama so when creators are in danger and someone goes real life on them it’s ignored until tragedy happens.
The swatting thing is ridiculous.
It's too easy to swat somebody and too hard to be protected from stalkers.
Serious restructuring needs to happen in both these regards.
Yeah you go to prison when you cause a false swat now....
They don't treat that lightly
I'm not a huge UA-camr - but I play in a band... I had a woman stalking me for about a year. It was pretty bad. Actually I thought several times about how I could "get rid of her" just to get some peace. She showed up at the house I lived in.. like every day. She showed up if I went out on weekends. She called me on my phone constantly. She interfered with any and most internet relations I had (this was around 2010) Confronting every female I had contact with IRL & online and so on. I had to move several times, change phone number several times and live a secluded life for the most part in order to avoid her.. and it eventually stopped. Even ten years later I have huge problems going out and I simply don't pick up my phone if the number calling is not registered in my phonebook. Stalking is a very very serious matter.
Asmon - I am a self defense instructor and I absolutely loved the last 3 minutes of this video. Solid stuff man, the same thing we tell all our students on almost daily basis.
@@Haggysack2k8 Germany has crazy cases too ...
@@ic.xc. yeah there are but they get resolved because the difference is German police is more competent and gives a shit about people's safety
@@Haggysack2k8 Yeah, nobody fights people or stabs people in Germany...
@@kukipett Seems the common denominator in all the stories is bars and alcohol.
Does it include slicing a bullet at full velocity with the worlds sharpest katana?
I am genuinely glad asmongold made awareness to this and is why hes such a big streamer and such. It's really important we make this aware on how often this really happens and how serious it really is.
So wait . . . The streamer behind Kira TV is behind these stalking incidents??
@@loganlove9986 are you dumb or joking
Yes I think so
@@Sephiriya so KiraTV is self reporting? What?
@Logan Love kira said that he was a victim as well as these girls (he's not saying that he's the one doing the stalking)
That message he put the red square outline around, is very scary. Even if that person wouldn't go through with that, just seeing how sick and deranged they are in their description shows that this person is really a threat to society. How he would torture them, and feed her sisters brain to her family? Holy shit man. How do these people exist?
In the short term, and for the individual being stalked it's actually best not to talk about these things as talking about it only empowers the stalker(s) and actually encourages more weirdos to begin stalking them as well. However in the long term and for society at large we must all talk about these things because that's the only way law enforcement and the law makers will change their attitude towards stalking and start treating it seriously.
Down here in Australia, fire-fighters are essentially Superheroes.
I remember being in Springwood, (a mid-sizr mountain town in NSW) and some fire-fighters pulled up to get some food. Within minutes they were swarmed by people shaking their hands & hugging them. Days earlier they basically saved the whole town from a bushfire that consumed huge swaths of the Blue Mountains. Never disrespect a fire-fighter.
That's because you live in an uninhabitable, hell hole tinder box at the ass end of the world.
My ex broke his restraining order over 200 times. When I reported it to the police the cop I talked to was retiring later that day. He told me to go home and write my own statement and drop it back in days later. I ended up having to leave my family home with my 3 kids and go into a "safe house". We did nothing wrong, yet our whole life was taken from us. My kids were yanked out of school, taken away from their friends, their home, possessions and life. My ex ended up burning and binning all our belongings. Now years later we are still trying to reclaim our lives back. Don't have to be a streamer to be stalked, threatened, beaten etc. No one can ever restore the life my kids and I lost. My ex ended up with a community based order, allowed to roam where ever he wanted, live openly, whilst we hid, isloated in fear. It's BS.
yea the law is so stupid most of the times, from my perspective someone like that who is unable to move on and keeps on harassing and stalking should be killed, just don't see the purpose of having someone like that in the world at all..
Get a gun and self defense insurance. Stop relying on police. Rely on yourself.
Fake story
@@GroupKillingFrenzy Found the ex.
you picked him
So true about fighting. Only fight if it’s important to the extent where you need to protect yourself or a loved one
I love how comfortable you are on stream, unafraid to say what u think, unafraid to be memed, and also very based opinions. Keep it up.
"his love is stronger than a restraining order" hahaha hahaha fucking died with that comment
Dude this type of shit is so scary and insane, the story has been told a million times over, yet NOBODY wants to read the writing on the walls LOL. This is c l e a r l y a dangerous situation, with a dangerous person, he is leaving a breadcrumb trail of someone who has nothing left and is willing to sacrifice literally their life and freedom for what they want.. Scary shit and I wish all of your streamers safety and success.. What a massive issue that seems to be misunderstood by the people who protect us.
Edit: Restraining orders don't matter to people who are like this lol. I've never understood how somebody could think a piece of paper is a solution to protect them D:
first video i've ever seen of yours. i generally hate react content but this was some good shit. you're a wise man
I have a buddy who is a DJ/Host at a moderately large radio station in our tri-state area, and the same situation applies. He's told me stories of a few crazies who honestly believe they "personally know" him, simply because they listen to his radio show on a daily basis.
This is just insane. I always wish that this could be dealt with, but there are so many people out there who are not right in the mind. Its just sad that people have to go through this and cant feel safe.
restraining orders don't do shit, I know cops that have said that their job is no longer to actively protect, but to later catch and punish people that do wrong after the fact.
well what else do you expect? want cops to be your private securiry?
take it up with lawmakers who make stalking practices legal. cops cant - and shouldnt - help you if no law was broken
Your comments at the 34 minute mark were spot on. I call the people that think they know exactly how they'd respond in high stress, armed confrontations Call of Duty Combat Vets. Studies show that even out of the highest trained soldiers, more than 5 out of 6 will panic in a life or death situation. And the numbers are ridiculously high for a person's first life or death encounter. Downrange, the first "incoming" siren sent everyone into the bunkers, a few months in, most people ignored the sirens, but the sound of small arms fire would totally change the reaction on base
Eye-opening. Makes you really think how sick some people can be, and it's truly frightening. Reading/watching stories like these spur me to reflect on the implications and risks of being a public figure or celebrity. Makes me glad I haven't strived to be a celeb/actor or public figure and I truly cherish my privacy nowadays. I'm a decently attractive guy and have had women who have pursued me for years which was a bit too close for comfort and have indeed almost pushed the panic button per se a few times before, so I could imagine what dawns upon people like Zack, Kaitlyn, Tricia, Jake, Imane, etc. Twitch streamer hate bandwagons aside, having stalkers track you down and making you fear for your life is purely NEVER acceptable and should be combated against with the fullest extent of awareness and the law.
And apparently, this happens a lot more often than the general public is aware of.
Certainly this could be related to growing Mental Health Crisis, not just here, but GLOBALLY.
This kind of thing is absolutely terrifying. And to think there is almost _nothing_ you can do.
A piece of streamer advice I've heard from our ol Pal Jim aka Mister Metokur was "If you're going to steam, let the police know ahead of time." This played out on Junes Year of the Chud roundup when he got swatted like 30 min into the steam. He came back and plugged his merch and went on with the show like nothing happened. This may not help out with the stalker aspect but hey... it'll reduce your chances of being shot by the police at least.
Swatters should get straight up jail time and stalking needs to be dealt with in a serious manner.
kinda hard to handle. especially when you involved in a business where you open yourself to strangers. even more so when your target audience is weirdo. amouranth only know 1 stalker, she has like 200 stalker. the root cause is her job, this is an occupational hazard. she hired an arm guard, thats good. she pay someone out of her earning. police has limited resources.
restriction order will escalated the issue.
@SealTeamPepega its not thee type of stream she host but it vastly increases the chances that they spawn. Sweet anita is way more conservative and Gavin free from the slow mo guys partner also developed a stalker and in gavins case the stalker wanted to kill him and thought he would elope with his partner after the murder
RIP Jade
And this is why i will never blame anyone who becomes a VTuber. Feels like it would be way safer.
@Maxtor sorry vtuber was the wrong term. Im thinking more along the lines of people like Corpse Husband, and Technoblade. You know people who never show who they really are and hide behind an avatar.
So, just two cents on the "should you or should you not talk about it publicly" thing: I di disagree with Asmon on that one. 100% talk about it if and when you can/are comfortable doing so. I understand what he means about it being a form of reward, but from the indirect experience I've had in this subject (a friend of mine has been stalked, not me), not talking about it also rewards the stalker: because then it's this dirty little secret between you that becomes a tool to isolate and cut you off. Exposing them and talking about it publicly may give them some "reward"/attention, but it can also help you. Not talking about it also gives them something they want, and you gain nothing from it; you may even make it worse for yourself if it isn't widely known because people won't know to watch out for you.
So yeah, obviously there is not one answer for every situation, but in general, stalkers are an exception to the idea of ignoring them to not give them the gratification of being talked about. Because stalkers get what they want either way: either their getting attention because you're talking about them or their getting YOU "all to themselves" in a creepy, abusive form of isolation. So do what helps you, because nothing is going to be a situation where you can deny that creep all forms of attention or reward. Until stalking is better dealt with globally, stalkers get at least some of what they want out of the activity. It fucking sucks, but don't let them isolate you on top of that if you can help it.
Everybody gangster and ok with milking money from creeps while being as provocative as possible until said creeps start stalking them...
Stalking is pretty much a free for all until they actually get the confidence to make their move on their target. By that point though their move is to physically harm the target.
Stalking laws are extremely lax and it also overlaps in the paparazzi territory as well. They basically can do anything until they make a physical move.
It's a tradeoff with freedom.
Yes pre crime units do not exist
@@LordOfSweden they definitely do care. They shouldn't be feeling unsafe in their own homes because there are creeps online who stalk and harass them in person.
@@LordOfSweden any man or woman who posts 1 thing online is "exposed" to stalkers
@@LordOfSweden all I'm hearing is that you're scared and insecure of half naked women...
Many years ago me and my mom had trouble with a group of people trying to break in, while we were at home my mom heard them talk outside about our camera discussing if it works and if we are home at the middle of night, both her and i are nightowls and i often stay awake all night, i told her to call the police immidietly i got a baseball bat and a motocycle helmet ( i live in the EU so no guns) they refused to come until i called them myself again it took about 30 minutes, i already chased them away. and to this day i know they live nearby and the police didn't do shit to them because nothing was commited. Following that event i was in constant ready state for months and months in case they return, and changed my sleep so i could keep watch at night.
In fact at another occasion i remember arguing with the dispatcher both for an ambulance for my grandma and with the police at an other intrusion to send someone and the thing they always ask is " is there a crime being commited as of now?" why you think im calling.
It's infuriatiang when it matters the most you have proof and still they don't do anything.
Yep good advice in the end. I am at medium level in both karate and judo and what you learn the first thing is to avoid getting in fights and never start a fight. All this training is for self defense when you can't avoid the fight. Also very important if you can deduce that the fight is unavoidable you have to strike first and then run the fuck out of there.
I'm seeing the appeal of asmongold, he's got a much more personal and authentic connection with his audience from the way he interacts with them and his general vibe is measured and chill
Yeah, there's too many episodes of forensics files where the stalking victim brought this to the attention of the authorities and still wind up brutally murdered.
And the typical psychological issue is BPD with narcissistic characteristic or outright narcissism (covert or malignant).
All too easy for this guy to play the If I Can't Have You No One Else Can. This fuckin guy probably thinks she OWES him, for all his sacrifice. Fucking nightmare!
I agree 💯 it's hard to deter someone who has this kind of intent. I had to buy a few home exercise equipment so my wife could work out at home instead of the gym. She had some dude waiting outside for her to ask her out. Telling him she is married wasn't a care for the guy. Luckily the situation didn't escalate beyond that. It's definitely hard being a female when you have to spend most of your time beating men off you with a stick. It's ridiculous.
This is really eye opening. I have a decent following on tiktok and so many people think they have a relationship with me. I have never even talked to them. For the most part people are great but there are a few scary ones which all it takes is one to change your life and not for the good
It’s like a less dark but just as scary version of Evertale commercials lol
It just shows that you can't depend on authorities to protect you. Always take precautions to keep yourself safe. A big dog imo is one of the best safety precautions someone can get. They are very alert with people at the door of your house or off disturbances. They will often instinctively protect you from violence.
When the seconds count, the police are minutes/hours away.
Dogs are a good security system. Here in the Philippines, when someone tries to go after your dog, mostly by poisoning it, you know your house has been marked.
Yuuup, and then people say we don't need firearms because the police can keep us safe. We've seen that so many times and even during times where people use the guns for malicious acts like the recent shootings, the police don't do anything to help. The police waited 19 minutes in the hallway in Texas before clearing classrooms. By then, adults and kids were already dead, and likely less would have been if the police didn't hang back with their armor, shields, and rifles.
Dog and a gun
@@kuyagab4444 this!
Yes!
Well, Lonely Gamers and Female Streamers have never been a good combo. Twitch its proof of it.
This is an issue much broader than gamers and female streamers. Its a problem with parasocial relationships in general Twitch is just an avenue we're more familiar with. You'll routinely see similar stories with well known young women working in other fields
@@mekboy7403 I totally agree, boys are crazy these days.
I always though if I ever had to shoot another man for a reason I wouldn't feel bad because I'm strong emotionally. Well few years ago there was a situation where a man attacked a women literally below our apartment windows. Woman started screaming so I grabbed a bat, ran outside and had a really good swing into his rib cage. It all happened so fast, I saw him on top of the woman and I just hit hit as hard as I could into his ribs. He collapsed immediately and my body went through a shock phase thinking I just killed him because as I said I really took a good swing and I understood that maybe I've overestimated the force needed also the bat was aluminum so maybe I shouldn't have hit this hard. All these things were going through my mind that were really horrible. Anyway dude survived with few shattered ribs and punctured lung but damn I still feel kind off bad about it.
Not to mention I had a lot of problems afterwords since he tried to sue me for excessive force usage. Luckily police arrived before medics and told me to hide the bat and say that I kicked him instead, because bat is considered a "cold weapon" in my country so I would be in a lot of trouble if they were to report that. The officer told me that it was brave of me to help this woman so they will report it was a kick. In the end the court ruled that a "kick" was not "excessive" since it was only 1 "kick" and no further harm was done.
Literal rogue opener IRL
nice police 👍🏻
You can tell this didn't happen in America because the police would have detained you, the prosecutor would have charged you with attempted murder and the other guy would be living in your house before the week was up.
@@jjm152 And the woman would have sued her rescuer for attempted man slaughter, saying it wasn't a kick, it was a bat.
@@jjm152 are you joking??? Stories about people just killing home invaders are rampant in the US... Self-defence laws are about the most lenient for the defenders in the US...
Respect that Christina got mentioned Asmons a smart guy such a perfect response I loved her videos the whole time she posted its a joke what happened.
If something more serious happens the streamer might have been killed by their stalker by then it would be too late. Asmongold spitting facts
My mom had a stalker when I was a toddler. My family only had one car and my mom stayed home with us kids. Mom would take us to the library or the park every week and with her to the grocery store and we took the city bus to get there which is how the stalker "got access" to her I guess you could say. Mom noticed him following behind us in aisles at the grocery store and parking his car at the end of our street after we would get off the bus. Police did nothing. This was a woman just living her life travelling around with her two young daughters age 7 and 4. When it comes to protecting women from unstable fucking maniacs, the justice system is dog shit. I had a stalker when I was 15. Mom was working at this time and dad worked out of town 5 days a week. I would come home from high school and this grown man would watch me walk from the bus stop to my house where I was home alone and just watch my house for hours, leaving as soon as my mom got home from work. The second day that I noticed I called the police frantically and they sent a patrol car out, but he just drove away before they could contact him. They told me they would have an officer sit by my house the next day to deter him and the police officer never came. My dad was off work that day and as soon as the stalker parked his car by my house my dad went out 9mm in hand and threatened to kill him if he ever came back. Dude never came back. If it weren't for my dad, who fucking knows what could have happened to me. The guy cased my house for 3 days and likely thought it was just my mom and I that lived there(since my dad had been out of town the whole time up until the confrontation). He was likely coming to the conclusion that I would be an easy target. This situation is absolutely fucked for women who don't have a gun or a man in their life that can defend/protect them because the cops won't do shit until you're already maimed or in a fucking body bag.
... so she saw a guy doing his shopping and riding the same bus... lol ya thts definitely stalking
@@hughmungus431 Idk if you missed the part where I said he parked his car at the end of our street or what, but the guy wasn't riding the bus or shopping. He saw my mom, sister and I at the bus stop, followed the bus in his car, parked at the grocery store, followed far behind us in aisles, didn't buy anything, then got in his car and waited for the bus to pick us up and followed the bus in his car again and parked across from our house one house down and watched our house. That is 100% stalking a woman and her children.
As an officer, stalking can be one of the most difficult crimes to develop probable cause to arrest somebody on. The laws are written so terribly for stalking that it ties our hands to do anything
well i think they were written that way to prevent people from basically having here say on somone and detrimental things happening. however i do think something should be done about them. there needs to be a middle ground on what can be done about someone stalking you.
What is happening these days is more and more people think watching a stream means that person is their friend. YOU'RE NOT THEIR FRIENDS. Knowing of somebody DOES NOT equate to friendship.
The only difference between now and 20 or 30 years ago with stalking, is that theres internet and more visibility to the problem. This should be great, except theres still no damn solution. More than half of the other women I know RL have been stalked, and authorities do nothing. Restraining orders dont work. The only thing that has worked for them is street justice. Friends of friends putting the fear of fucking god in to these stalkers. Some were arrested but only because they assualted/tried to assault my friends. THANKFULLY none of my friends were murdered, though some of them wish they had been. The trauma is very real.
the internet existed 20 years ago as well, but people didnt post their lives online. Believe it or not, most people especially those that use Social Media post their lives online and anyone can figure out where they are at any given time. Many PI's use social media to track their targets for surveillance, and they use it because its cheap, easy, and free(IE cheap).
Asmongold: "Dad someone broke in the house."
Asmon's dad: "Get the camera. I got the gun."
''You don't have many girls talking about how crazy their boyfriends are, because they're fucking dead.'' hit me pretty hard
“I can guarantee that his love is more powerful than any restraining order” LMAO
How has that guy not been deported? If he's on a visa and not working or anything I would think he would be able to be deported for even the slightest thing
Thats racist.
@@GenkiTheEthical no, if you are an inmigrant and you do something against the law that's pretty much a deportation
@@GenkiTheEthical you mean xenofobe? i don't see how race has anything to do with this
@@GenkiTheEthical I understand what you're saying. I think you made it a little too complicated for everyone else tho lol
@@GenkiTheEthical I def didn't mean it in a racist way. I was just stating what would happen or is supposed to happen for someone visiting on a visa.....I don't even know what race the guy is
The last bit about trained people avoiding fights is dead nuts. No one avoids violence like people that understand violence.
had someone go through my reddit posts from like 6 years ago and finding little bit of info where i live at and threatened me for a reddit comment they didn't like. You cant even hide your past posts, if you can its hard to find or im dumb. Should be able to hide anything you do so people cant just look you up so easily. its creepy.
I can't imagine the mental toll this takes from someone.. so sad. :(
Just wait until everyone finds out that Asmongold's dad is Amouranth's new bodyguard.
27:39 - I see what you're sayin, but ignoring a stalker may inspire them to try harder.
it does, You have to have them stopped usually, they do not stop on their own.
Love how you drop some love' on a Paladin doing paladin stuff irl and ingame.
'small price to pay for being famous' literally can happen to everyone. 'just get a restriction order' omg guys he thinks that does something lmaooo
These people market and design their whole life around gaining attention from the mentally unstable. Should they be safe? Absolutely, are they short sighted for thinking what they do doesn't play a massive role? Absolutely
I bet money you think a gun ban will get rid of guns though…
@@Rudgged It will help mitigate mass shootings, yes. American’s love pearl clutching don’t they? Also you don’t need an AR-15 to defend yourself. Also the government will fuck you up no matter how many guns you have. Why does America specifically have these problems and not other countries? Hmmmm…
@@Rudgged a Glock is fine, no reason to need anything else right?
@@Rudgged what does this have to do with anything i wrote?
_"Anyone with martial arts training runs away from a fight."_ I'm a first degree black belt in taekwondo and can absolutely confirm this. The number one thing my instructor drilled into all of us was that fighting was _the absolute LAST resort._ If you can get away, get the fuck out of there. It's not worth it.
You became a black belt just to run away. Worthless training
@@Rudgged I became a black belt so the guy in high school who wouldn't let me go when I said "no" _the first THREE times_ could end up thrown onto his back with the wind knocked out of him and my fist an inch from his nose while he was desperately trying to suck some air back into his lungs, actually, but nice try.
All your reply shows is irresponsibility/immaturity from a wannabe tough guy with zero experience in martial arts training. Real life dangerous situations aren't like the movies.
@@Rudgged you’re the reason the world sucks
@@Rudgged he became a blackbelt incase he couldn't run away
@@Rudgged you don't pay attention, hell you didn't pay attention to Jacky Chan or Bruce Lee
Great video on many levels.
Well placed bullet always sends a good message
It all started with the horse head.....
I have no desire to watch everything someone does. But if Asmon posted his entire elden ring playthrough, I'd watch it. There's a fine line between fantasy and reality. I think it's important to keep grap on reality. But all parties are guilty for trying to blur the line and it's never fun when someone gets hurt. It's important to keep a grasp on reality.
On restraining orders. Not sure how you get around not giving your address. They have to know where they have to stay away from.
"Theres no silver bullet to this problem..... well actually...." 😂😂
No one gives up their privacy and safety when they become famous, rich or both. Respect peoples privacy man plain and simple, there is no way to spin trying to seek out someone who has no idea who you are.
Real and true. 95% of people seem to think they're entitled to approach and harass someone because they saw them on a screen once. It's bizzare.
However someone that streams their life even when they sleep. Have given up a significant amount of their privacy. She should be used to being watched by now.
@@CaIypso5150 yes but that never stops being her decision and there is no degree of responsability from her part to please anyone
It's time to wake up from your fairy tale. Back to the real world where shit happens.
@@OP-lk4tw Oh excuse me fan boy. But Until said stalker is not on public property no crime has been committed. And her desire for attention is still being fed it's a win win
Jesus. What an awful experience for someone to go through... Makes my blood boil that it doesn't always get taken seriously. I knew a girl who had an ex that kept stalking here, she told the police and they did basically nothing... One day we were in a group call with her on Skype, and she said BRB and then it went quiet, we all thought she went to the bathroom or something hence why she was gone for so long... Then suddenly the call ended.
A few days later her sister got in touch to say that our friend had been stabbed in the stomach, her ex had climbed in through the window and stabbed her as she came out of the bathroom. Luckily she made it out ok and the fucker got jailed, but my god I can't even fathom the mental toil it probably still has on her.
For anyone who suffers from any kind of harassment, my prayers are with you.
Amouranth capitalizes on farming simps, of course she's gonna get simps finding her, they watch her because they desire her, not for entertainment.
Ive thought about offering my experiences due to this stalker shit getting out of control.
Shifting gears for a moment! I would be willing to challenge some of the street fight and professional fighter points.
Some of us have records, in military and arrests, that show we don’t fuck around.
My older sister had a stalker. It ended when he decided to come to my house at about 2 in the morning while she had friends over and they(plus my mom) were all watching a movie in the living room. The dude knocked on the window of our dining room(which you can see into the living room from). We had called the cops multiple times about this guy but they never really did anything up until this point. So my mom got my dad who was sleeping, he went outside in his whitey tighty underwear with a Glock 21 and a maglight(this was before weapon lights were very common) looking for the guy. The cops were called and they responded by bringing a bunch of K9's but they never found the guy. Before the cops arrived though my dad shouted something into the darkness along the lines of "You better hope the cops find you before I do!"
The stalker never returned after that night and left my sister alone. It was very scary though.
idk if you know this but whitey tighties on the Dad class adds +800 strength and agility
Immediately thought of the Breaking Bad scene
@@goatyachty1762 LMAO
@@goatyachty1762 I bet he still have nightmares about them
It's sad that she has to but she should hire her own personal security detail I'm sure she could afford it
Why is it sad. Is it sad for an owner of a store to spend money on security? no it's expected. She just wants the sympathy simps to give her more money for her sad story. It's time she took some responsibility for the actions she's taken. All these woman think it's other peoples responsibility to take care of them well that's not how the world works. And if your business model is making money of degenerate simps and incels you better protect yourself anyway you can.
It's not sad, it's life. Y'all live such sheltered lives. This is why the second amendment is so important.
@@mikeoxlong3676 just because it happens often doesn't mean it's not sad
@@mikeoxlong3676 Not the american bringing up the second amendment. Dude, you Americans live in another realm and you don't even realize how bad you have it compared to actual first world countries, love how you're saying people live a sheltered life, as an american yourself lmao. It's the police that needs changing in the US.
Oh my! In my country we live in a huge buildings where tons of people are living so it’s kind of a problem for stalker to function in such conditions. Never though that living in a separate house is so dangerous.
the thing is tho, its perfectly fine to talk to someone you don’t know as if you have known them for 10 years as a gesture, as long as you don’t demand anything back, or act like someone owes you something, the main thing is that thing, being really aware of how a stranger could and should view you when you pop up in their life out of nowhere. there is this sense that a celebrity should expect to be sought out, I know you are a wow celeb and thats kind of fringe, and you haven’t always been, but it helps a little to imagine a stranger just coming up to you and starting to talk to you when you are just a random person, that would be very strange indeed, but because on twitch for example where there is a back and forth between even individuals and the streamer it feels like to some people that the streamer knows you just as well as you know them, but that is ofc an illusion, and most people get that in an intuitive way, at least to the extent that they don’t get any crazy expectations stuck in their heads. You are also right I think to assume that these stalkers are more or less not quite all there, but that could as you say be for various reasons, and it’s important that we understand all the ways you can get there, what it has in common with interpersonal relationships that are good and bad and what to do about it should become more clear once we have a good grip on that. I for one think learning about how we form bonds and relationships early is key, such that we get that awareness and also can form sound and sufficient emotional connections throughout childhood to then be able to avoid these pitfalls. Its easy to say that its common sense when you or me have had these relationships and dont have a particular need to attach ourselves to strangers in this way, but the people who do really have a lot to struggle with, and it simply must be painful and confusing, anyway, I’m hopeful that a lot more can be done to mitigate and prevent these things before they develop.
She needs to hire a security team if she doesn’t have one already.
she says she has an armed security living in her guest place, must be the same house lol. Something should be done with that nutjob already ffs
teenager mercenary is such a good manwha
It's not just stalkers on twitch. I had a crazy nearly show up to my place because I was nice to them in a chat room.
Me too!
He sent me a map from his house to mine, knew when I was working night shifts and sent me a voicemail saying he was going to kill me when I finished my shift. I rang the police and they promised me they would come to the hospital I worked at before my shift finished but they never did
It’s like 2 weeks ago, so sorry for a late question. But how did they find your address? Usually, IPs are hidden behind your carrier’s. Any Idea?
@@noxvardeen6978 oh no didn't know my address just headed to the main town then told me to pick them up at a bus station. I was like oh hell no that isn't happening
@@xtremefurrycat That do be kinda weird... people are weird... but that makes sense, then. Thanks!
I agree on the point that they get validation from it when the streamer tweets, or makes videos about it. Then again, it could also be paired as a PR move for the streamer. It's all speculative.
But, there is no denying that they must get some kind of validation from it. I doubt you could shame these stalkers into silence just from tweeting.
These stalker situations are genuinely scary because of how easy it is to find personal information these days. And there’s really nothing police can do until something bad happens
“Theres no silver bullet for this shit”. True but regular bullets work fine. Like you said though, if someone is gonna kill you it will be hard to stop. Stay safe streamers
@CBEdits absolutely not. I meant in a home defense situation where that level of force might be necessary. I can’t imagine the toll that would take on someone’s mind. Having to take a life is something I hope I never have to do, but if I am ever in a situation where I have to defend my loved ones, I would hope I can act accordingly so that I could save my family. Who knows though. You never know how you will act in a stressful situation until you are in one.
Twitch has no fault when it comes to people being stalked.
Stalking is a known problem everywhere, and honestly it cant be stopped.
People that are obssesed enough with someone will continue to stalk them throughout their life.
Exactly 💯
This actually happened to a Twitch streamer from the Classic WoW community. I don't know if anyone remembers VeronaXD but she was really chill and some creepy stalker was saying they knew where she moved to and all this other stuff about wanting to be with her. Cops told her to stop streaming and she literally did. She was so scared and didn't want to talk about it with too many people. I hope she's okay. Scary world. I totally get why VTubers got popular.
Before I started streaming, I did cosplay (Still kinda do but it's different). With doing cosplay I've got one hell of a story. One guy would message me DAILY for 6+ months after he met me at a cosplay "meet up", After he got no where with me, I didn't reply and I left the conversation go stagnate (he freaked me out when he said he'd come to my local train station daily to see me). He lost interest, Months later I found out, He lured a young female cosplayer into an alley way and attacked her (sexually - I can't remember if YT's sensitive to the word so fill in the blanks). He was charged with "not allowed in events that have children there" and a 6 months "good behaviour" sentence.
It's not just streamers, the Cosplay scene is just as bad... mainly cause you're dressing up as their "waifu" they automatically go into creep mode. (Low key thankful I only ever did cosplays of 'less well know' characters in public, In private I do well known anime waifus, I found a way to avoid the cringe, for now anyway lol)
Streaming stories wise, I'm a smol streamer so look, I don't cop A LOT of shit but it's enough to cringe XD. My streaming experience so far is my TOP donator, he'd enjoy my WOW streams and then the messages started... but the best part was when he wrote "I donate to you, therefore I OWN you".. Yeah he aint a dono any more, don't mess with an australian XD.
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Kira's work is always amazing, such an excellent creator. This video was downright scary. People is fucked up
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The problem alot of the time is theres little to no powers to deal with harassment or stalking in alot of countries harassment usually needs to be dealt with in a civil matter, stalking is hard prove in a evidential way, because misuse of powers has ramifications as much as doing nothing does but statistics state 50% of reported stalking ends in murder so worldwide it needs to be address with greater urgency.
24:37 that’s the UK police for you
The police are overwhelmed with violent calls. Fire fighters hang out in there fire station BBQing and watching movies until they get a call. Also, police are very limited on what they can do. Walking around someone property unfortunately is not a crime and if the police stop him they can get sued for violating there rights. Last but not least, you shouldn't relay on police to protect you, police can't be with you 24/7, train and arm yourself with a firearm... Thats what we do out here in Texas.
@@theoperator3712 He said 'AROUND' not on. That's the not the same thing.
If I run in front of a school on its sidewalk for exercise everyday, that's not illegal.
@@theoperator3712 walking "around" the property is not a crime and in order for trespassing to be a crime you have to have no trespassing signs up and have to have been officially warned. An arrest is made only of they refuse to leave after being warned. An officer can arrest someone for trespassing aftet they have been warned AND that officer observes the suspect on that property. A warrant for that person arrest can be obtained if their is video proof of him on the property after he has been warned.
So after watching this whole video, this is the take? We’re doomed.
27:53 I think you can't really know how these people react to anything you do. If you talk about it you may "validate" them and make them feel recgonized but if you never acknowledge them it could agitate them further, too. It's just impossible to tell how such people will react, obviously, because they are mentally ill. So I think talking about it is still better because I think the most terrible part about stalkers is having to deal with them all by yourself. Get help and support quickly! Especially because others are then aware of your situation so in the worst case scenario, they might make a difference.
Bro, there's nothing scarier than crazy people. I'd much rather go out in a random accident or something than hear someone entering my house with a knife saying they're my biggest fan. This is beyond awful. The craziest thing is, the police doesn't even respond to this shit most of the time (at least where I'm from), best they can do is "call us if they harm someone". Hell, even domestic violence is legalized here, it's not been very important to the authorities to begin with, but now it's legit an administrative issue, like smoking at a bus station or something. A politician in an adjacent country got arrested for murdering his wife with his bare hands and almost got away with it. His defense was "she fell over, I didn't even hit her", meanwhile her body was as messed up as a rock climbing accident victim. Stalker stuff happens here all the time, and often they get away with everything. Apparently, carrying a weapon and sending threats is not enough to do something about them, free to go I guess, better tell them the victim's address and wag a finger at them just in case. I feel really safe knowing the police will help me if anything goes wrong FeelsOkayMan 👍
(Sigh) "But yes he does" i just spat out my coffee hahahaha.
I wish Asmon's dad was on the stream even more than Mcconnell.
I have been stalked a few times in my life, so I can attest to the creepy aspect of it, but have never been in fear for my life because I am a man and can handle myself well enough... I can see why any woman would have that extra layer of fear just from the thought of a man taking it too far... because that is always a possibility...
I can only imagine... I am sorry you have had to experience that...