The Punisher 2099 #1 - Atop the Fourth Wall
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- Опубліковано 2 гру 2015
- Just a reminder - the new system is four AT4W episodes per week, once a day from Monday through Thursday.
Welcome to Atop the Fourth Wall, where bad comics burn. In this episode, Linkara reviews a comic about the Punisher... OF THE FUTURE!
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Originally uploaded May 13th, 2013.
ORIGINAL INFO: Just in case you ever thought the Punisher needed more shoulderpads.
RUMINATIONS: The big thing people said in response to this one was that Punisher 2099 was satire and I was taking it too seriously. That might be the case later on, but honestly I don’t really get a satire vibe from the first issue, especially considering his origins as someone motivated by the death of one’s entire family. That’s not really the kind of thing that you use to satirize unless you go much more over the top, or if they aren’t actually killed, just wounded or the like. And even then, why would you have your SECOND book in this new line be more a satire instead of another serious take like Spider-Man had been? Then again, it begs the question of why a Punisher 2099 at all. In the end, the Punisher is just a pissed-off guy with guns. Other than having more futuristic-sounding tech and weapons, what REALLY is the advantage of having a future version of them? - Комедії
I can fix his origin easily: dude's family is killed because they couldn't pay their police protection, Jake vows to wipe out crime his way to protect the poor who can't afford to pay for protection. Fits the theme of "cyberpunk libertarian hellscape", still mirrors The Punisher with the added failure of the system, gives him his own reason to hate the megacorps.
Good gosh, How did you throw a better premise together in about 2 lines than professional comic writers did in a full-length comic?
Yeah, that would make sense.
Also for some reason Cyberpunk RPG might have influence. Especially the police protection (or lack of it, hence why an executive had to hire them when her daughter was kidnapped), title year theming, and criminal gang who harvested organs (or in RPG case, cybernetics).
Minus the “yellow peril” with corporate facade (at least America becoming Japanese themed as a “bad thing”…either due to subtle xenophobia-outside of younger audience who generally don’t have issue with it-or well-meaning yet culturally tone-deaf depiction) and militarized ambulance system (Trauma Team).
Linkara, it's totally obvious why they don't go for his head. It's way too small to target properly.
This is why I don't play any snipers in Overwatch and instead play characters like Mei, Mercy, Reinhardt, Junkrat, and Tracer.
Now, on the other hand targetting his torso-
@@harrietr.5073 like hitting the broad side of a barn
Punisher 2099 in his civilian clothes makes him look like he's from Jojo's Bizarre Adventure.
Nah, that's not flamboyant enough. He'd need something more flashy and there are no Heart, Star *or* Dolphin accessories on him.
Maybe he’s like Hol Horse, and one of those ridiculous guns is his stand.
The truth behind Jotaro Kujo when he loses his hat
Yeah, he got that jojo body type
So Jake's family is dead because some guy thought "This is nice. It would be a shame if someone was to ruin it."?
+Ayanda Nxumalo I think it's more "My family acted nice but secretly did horrible things, so now I think every family is like that"
the stinger at the end was hilarious
"Why would a long stick need a vibration setting? Ohhhhhhh"
So that non-speedsters can still pull a Reverse-Flash.
Oh my!
I imagine 2090's Kid to be doing the "Need a hand?" joke a bunch. That sounds equally stupid and hilarious
11:30
"Oh neat, a gun that shoots roast beef."
Arby's will go ballistic
I HAVE THE MEATS NOW!!!!
(RATATATATATATATATATA---)
Boy howdy am I excited that the .54 caliber magnum came out last year
Oh sure I have broken my hands, wrists, and dislocated my shoulder by trying to fire it but boy howdy that engine block never knew what hit it
Should've gone for the depleted uranium 30mm round drum-fed pistol. Sure, CONVENTIONAL pistols keep the magazine "simple" and "ergonomic" in the grip, and use wimpy rounds like the .44 Magnum. I mean, it can't even take out ONE main battle tank with a magazine!
@@johnalogue9832 No, its belt-fed, like the pistol in the final panel.
@@BoisegangGaming It's an oil drum full of ammo belt
"Ya know upon closer inspection of his crotch...SHUT UP!"
THAT WAS HILARIOUS LMFAO HAHAHAAAAAAAA
I feel like Spider-Man 2099 was somewhat of an answer to Batman Beyond. A future version of a famous character, that's technically a legacy character with a variation on the characters themselves, which is something I like.
Another good thing I liked about Batman Beyond is legacy characters teaming up with older versions of characters and children of other characters, which is something I feel like 2099 is missing.
You've got it backwards; Marvel 2099 came out about 7 years before Batman Beyond.
2099 came out in the 90's I think batman beyond came out in the early 2000's but yes both ideas are very similar difference is 2099 is a whole dimension beyond is just the future
Plus they both have girlfriends named Dana. Coincidence?????? .... yeah probably
Kinda agree with your saying and would be a bit interesting to see if Marvel 2099 had a reboot or something...
In Scandinavia hammer necklaces is a very common holdover from the viking age that people still wear to this day
Frank Castle requesting someone carry on his work?
I have seen a lot of things in Punisher storylines that have pissed me off with how his character goes from "My favourite character in all of comic books" to "Just a bad guy", but THAT might be the most out of character thing I've seen.
Frank believes he is, in many ways, in the wrong. He's frequently said his last bullet is for himself, that he wishes he could be the hero that Captain America is, Etc. Etc.
He would NEVER want there to be another Punisher. He doesn't think he's a good guy, just a better murderer than those he kills.
At least, when he's done right.
I'm not too well versed on the character, so that which I'll write can have many gaps in its logic, but maybe after years of crime fighting Frank began to think that his "work" is necessary and needs to be continued. "What I'm doing is wrong," he says to himself; but he realizes that as time passes, crime becomes more rampant, the system gets more corrupt and he's one of the few people left that tries to do something about it. Hence the need to keep his deeds alive. Or, at least , that universe's version of Frank thinks like that.
I mean let’s be clear punisher has no regrets. He’s inhuman. He wouldn’t want a legacy but he also isn’t amoral
Well, his last bullet being his assumes he'll be done with crime.
He won't, will he? Eventually off dying in a fight or from an incident like old age not suicide.
I can't help I love how ridiculous guns are in the 90's 😍
So Punisher 2099 is a really stupid version Judge Dread?
+Ice Climber Isn't the Stallone version the really stupid version?
Almost as stupid as the Sylvester Stallone version. ALMOST.
+Ice Climber Yep.
+Ice Climber Isn't Judge Dredd already stupid as is?
RyutheWeredragon
I think youre thinking the Stallone movie.The comic is a entertaining intelligent satire.
Fun fact: Jake Gallows (Punisher 2099) actually appeared in Spider-Verse, where he managed to kick the ass of and distract one of the villains for a while.
Imagine a Punisher animated series made by 4kids tv in the nineties.
10:40 Fun fact: actual Thor worshipers in reality wear the same thing.
For the most part I enjoyed the 2099 series. Though I do have to admit that Punisher was weaksauce
+Dartron indeed though i did like his short appearance in spiderverse where he's beats up daemos with that power bat of his.
Anyone else read Doom 2099? That's my favourite series of 2099 books
the Comic Nation 108
and linkara's uploading it next week
I did enjoy this book when I was young *but* I enjoyed most comic books at the time e.g. I know I was easy to please. ;) That being said, I believe the *general concept* isn't as bad as Linkara makes it sound.
1) This would have been a *great* book to introduce the various weapons technology used in the rest of the 2099 universe. Of course, it would have helped if more of the weapon-tech had been winners.
2) Linkara seems to forget that actually *yes*, if you go back far enough, killing in vengeance *was* legal. Actually, it is kind of funny; you can find stuff like that mentioned in the Bible... yet Jake ends up being from a Church of Thor family. *Again* this doesn't mean the story was well written. XP
3) I suspect Kron being a psycho wasn't purely about lazy writing. Maybe mostly, but the story seems to want us to focus on how a clear nutter like him can easily walk free thanks to being a Black Carder (or whatever it was called). Making him sane-but-villanious may have distracted from it. Pity they didn't give the readers credit to make Kron evil in a more complicated manner. 8-X
Yup, solid general concept, D- execution.
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We've seen Linkara cover so much worse. >.>
Dartron however if you ask me only the second worse behind only ghost rider the took my favourite part of my favourite marvel character and removed it completely by making him mechanical instead of spiritual
Punisher in future wear high heels...he really need to remember how to get dressed correctly. i saw his skull shirt is like this face ">_
Chaser oh, god, now I can't unsee it!
I know it's stupid to comment on a five-year-old video, but I thought of a way you could make a futuristic Punisher interesting: Have what everyone thinks is the Punisher actually be a robot remotely controlled by a paraplegic man. You could even keep Jake Gallows as a red herring, before revealing who the REAL Punisher is.
That's a pretty neat idea. It's also a good a contrast to Frank who was a walking one man army.
11:57 Looking at the gun he was using, I think the artist got the rear and front sights mixed up (though the rear sight is still ridiculously huge, even if it was the suppose to be the front sight)
Fun Fact: Kron Stone would later become Venom 2099.
+Eamonn Deane ... Jeez...
+Eamonn Deane Okay, the half brother part I did know.
+Samuel Johnson he's also Scorpion 2099
Samuel Johnson He's my favorite character.
Samuel Johnson I didn’t know there was a Venom 2099.
So Kron Stone is Tatsuya Sudou 2099. Good to know, though at least he isn't setting things on fire while screaming about the voices in his head.
+1TrulyMad and leading a cult that brings successfully the end of the entire universe. That's also a thing Sudou has for him.
Technically that was Joker but yeah he was his #2 so fair enough.
Wow, it's been 4 years since this episode was released?! Wow. I was still in College when this came out.
"Mom, get behind me!" All I can think is this from the Simpsons movie:
I wish Dad was here... His big fat ass would shield us all.
7:25 I love the Power bat. It's so bat...
"Why would a long stick need a vibrate setting?" XD
The original origin story worked better. It's sadder when your kids die than when your immediate family dies because at least they had a longer life. It kind of waters down the shock.
9:53 - Almost certainly the first time ever I've heard an American say "nobhead" :D
If fuel is too expensive to burn people to death, i guess Spawn's death was acctually pretty special.
I have to notice that, from how the panels are arranged, our hero just let the innocent guy get murdered and mutilated in order to hide in the shadows and give his monologue. I mean, it's not like the he's lacking in long range weapons, and his "armor" would give him enough protection to buy the time he needed to take them out.
why would a long stick need a vibrate setting........ohhhhhhhhhhhh
Street surgeons connected to bills and corporations! That is part of Repo! That automatically makes this a good comic. You got to admit, shooting the guy in the head after that and the set up was kind of funny.
Lol, that after credits scene. 😂
To be fair about the armor, it somehow protects his head (as the Punisher but not as a cop) and is a skintight robo-suit thing that goes under all the rest of his clothes (as both) with martial arts programmed into it (as the Punisher) Also, he didn't stick out to his cop buddies because everyone in the future seems to be jacked beyond belief.
y'know, if the sister in law confronted dbz nutbar guy first as he held them up during the initial attack, it'd make alot more sense as to why she'd want to try to talk it out, y'know, instead of after her husband and mother in law were melted in front of her, obvious little tweaks like that could've gone a long way in helping this story
If I had to make punisher 2099 I would call it Punishers 2099. They would be a group of vigilantes who drew inspiration from the original Punisher.
That would be very interesting to explore.
Am I the only one that thinks Punisher 2099 would've been better if he was a cyborg/robot instead?
Robo - Nidai that's a pretty cool twist to it actually
*insert Robocop joke here*
Even if it would be a lot like Robocop, making 2099 Punisher a cyborg would a lest give it a reason to put it in the future. Like have his home blown up because of a crazy gang war killing his family and only he survives, but is so injured that he has to be turned into a cyborg.
The punisher doesn't necessarily have to be in 2099 to be a cyborg given that marvel already tried that with franken-castle.
They did that only with Ghost Rider. Ghost Rider 2099 is robot/cyborg.
yeah punisher 2099 wasn't the strongest punisher book.
Hey Linkara, I'm sorry if you've gotten this question before, but would you be willing to do another 2099 month at some point in the future?
10 years of the punisher 2099 review
Ironically, enough the writer happened to be Pat MIlls, someone who actually did the same premise well except this one for some reason.
Also he wrote the Redeemer, memetic badass of a fanatical gang leader in an overcrowded slum planet, for Games Workshop.
The 2099 series were my introduction to comics and. Remain my favorite series. I love the style of this and silliness and all still adore them
more 2099 months please
Strangely, I take 2090s kids side on the "Radical sensor" as trading the ability to make head shots for turning some misses into hits sounds like a decent trade, especially for guns meant for suppressive fire.
His belt fed pistol raises so many questions. It looks like an old school revolver and it appears to have a revolving cylinder, but that either makes it really illogical (because revolvers do not work that way) or really impractical (I can envision making something that loads the bullets into a cylinder after each shot, but why would you want to?). It also seems to eject the shells upwards when he fires, but there's no ejector port. And if it functions as a double action revolver (which I assume is the point of the design) then why make it belt fed? The main appeal of a revolver is that they are compact, powerful, easy to aim, fairly accurate, and easy to clean. The addition of a belt ammo system takes away every advantage. The more I look at this thing, the less sense it makes.
I love that linkara used the music from Tron legacy for the 90s kid.
HA! We've finally determined the Identity of the Laughing Man. Turns out it was a crappy Punisher cosplayer this whole time. Weird.
my wishes for an AT4W episode on Punisher 2099 came true
5:25: "I'M NOT WEARIN' HOCKEY PADS"
90's Kid, you've made Robo Cop my good night movie today. Well done.
"I think ur awesome!"
"That can't be right!"
Lmfao love the skits in these reviews hahahaaaa
So your uploading these videos daily now? Good, I'm happy
this guy is hilarious. I'll hit the subscribe button
To be honest I love all the 2099 comics. Flaws and all
Jonathan Warrdddedcxddeececldron I have issues of 1-3 of punisher 2099 the first appearance of hulk 2099 and hulk 2099 1-2 And I like them 😂.
Even Ravage? That's a bold take sir, but I respect it.
It's that like if the lawgiver pistol was a nightstick.
7:18 DAMN YOU AND YOUR LEMONADE!
"The Future sounds Icky"
My new quote of the day.
It's very 90s how the badass gun dude wastes dozens of bullets spraying in all directions around one target at point blank range rather than one bullet actually aimed at the target. One bullet works, dude, and makes you come off as more a coldblooded killer. As much as I detest Max Lord shooting Blue Beetle in the head, that was much more chilling.
5:48 Ooh, the elite version of the longshot (I think?) looks a lot cooler than the old one
5:40 I had that toy as a kid! oh memories.😊
'street surgeons' totally make me think of Repo
wow, I've been watching Lewis for a long time, but this is the first comic he's reviewed that I actually owned! lol as a kid I liked this issue, the amount of cheesiness was very 90s action. I loved it hahaha. I see it as it is now of course but I can see the demographic it was aimed towards.
Should have done a Red Dwarf joke with the third hard. The end of the Inquisitor episode from Season 5 is when it happens. Also, the Laughing Man in the Ghost In The Shell: Standalone Complex did a similar thing by placing his logo over his face like the Punisher.
Ahem i present to you Linkara : The Multi Shocket Launcher 5000
Fun fact:
As it turns out,this guy is in the contest of champions comic book right now.
14:30 I guess that guy’s family only had Monopoly when he was growing up.
Frank castle knew what to do steal the war machine armor and then become the cosmic ghost rider.
Best part of 2090's kid: His theme song is Daft Punk.
And apparently this guy is put in charge of S.H.I.E.L.D 2099
8:01 it is I, the great papyrus! And I am here to ensure your grievous punishment!
Kron is also Miguel O'Hara's half-brother and venom 2099
I demand those comics for my collection.
I think Jake needs to get a refund from whoever sold him that belt-fed handgun. The belt looks like it's just fastened to the bottom of the trigger guard, not going anywhere near the chamber or the barrel, thereby completely defeating the purpose of it having an ammunition belt as he'd have to load the bullets manually.
So linkara, your not going to let supergirl live that line from cry for justice down are you?
You should do HULK 2099
Yes I had that Issue years ago I Readed it Once and Only Once!😒
The belt feed revolver might work if the gun fires caseless ammunition.
Yeah, it's weird how Frank Castle gets all these alternate versions. I mean, I like the Punisher just fine, it's just that his concept limits where you can go with the character. I mean, take 1602 Marvel: Nick Fury works for the queen, Magneto works for the Spanish Inquisition and Punisher......is a pilgrim with a flintlock and a sword.
What is worse is Spiderman 2099 is also the son of the alchemax CEO
It could be worse, in the Guardians of the Galaxy future their was a punisher inspired street gang.
17:45 He did actually go on to review that comic in 2016
4:18 ♪Repo Man.♪
I guess the spin on the punisher here is “+ torture”
To be honest, I don't really have much to say about the other characters related to the 2099 line. All I will say, is that it's both pretty random and bizarre. A futuristic version of an anti-hero (who at this point was considered a cliche), an updated then iconic supervillain, and a garbage man themed superhero. I honestly don't know why they didn't go for anyone that was more popular right after Spider-Man. I know that later X-Men 2099 would be published but honestly, that SHOULD have been Marvel's second 2099 book.
Grenadier a name so cool it's the name of an old anime.
Only high tech part about him is that he’s apparently The Laughing Man
Surgeon general 2099... Id like to see that
"This asshole with DragonBall Z hair"
From henceforth I shall only refer to my girlfriends son this way
Wow I can see a similarly to this and Judge Dread in a way. So does that make Sylvester Stallone as the Punisher in 2099? lol.
Grenazer? Is that like a photon torpedo or a lazer that explodes somehow
How old is The Punisher? 36 caliber.
Where does the Punisher live? On the edge!
The reason punisher 2099 was made is it was the 1990s and the puinsher was super popular at the time.
The belt-fed revolver confuses me so badly. The belt seems to be interupted by the opening for the trigger and finger guard, and it still has a cylinder chamber for around six rounds with nowhere for the belt to actually get the bullets anywhere betwixt barrel and hammer. Is it some kind of Belmont legacy whip gun for taking out future vampires or something?
5:57 Well at least no one else will hear that stupid line over his gunfire (or are those guns just glowing brightly?)
11:24 Hey looks it Snowflame
Is it a microwave powerd rocket launcher that shoots shotguns
OH NO A VIRBO-BAT! THEY CAN PASS THROUGH ARMOR!
perhaps punisher 2099 is using the spread gun from contra on the cover.
I love punisher 2099 ! In doing a cosplay (and yes I’m using McDonald cups)